[craft] breslin says (to buzzard), "so what's a negative example of
something that flashes from wet to dry in one turn."
[craft] breslin says, "i'm trying to think of one also"
[craft] buzzard asks, "a negative example?"
[craft] breslin says, "i mean, where the simplistic and minimal wet/dry
implementation looks shoddy for whatever reason"
[craft] buzzard says (to breslin), "I'm not sure it's object-specific.
It's just non-obvious to  the player what's going on."
[craft] breslin says, "right, and that breaks the rule for simulation.
gotcha"
[craft] Gunther says, "you could be nonspecific"
[craft] Gunther says, "'the item isn't soaking wet anymore'"
[craft] Gunther says, "'the item feels only slightly damp now"
[craft] Rob says, "something nearby is somehow sorta not quite as wet or
dry"
[craft] Gunther says, "'the item is almost dry'"
[craft] buzzard says (to Gunther), "Riight, that's totally fine, but
that's more than just 'wet/dry', which is what I was complaining about"
[craft] breslin says (to Rob), "You're an insufferable smartass, you
know."
[craft] Rob asks (of breslin), "I beg your pardon?"
[craft] breslin says (to Rob), "I am too, no offence (not too much
offence anyway). ;)"
[craft] Rob says, "I'm sorry, but I'm afraid I have taken offense"

[cabal] Grocible says, "he's just tryin' to be yore frend!"
[cabal] Rob says, "he has failed"

[craft] breslin says (to Gunther), "i was thinking about that, a la some
sort of list: ['wet' 'very damp' 'damp' 'somewhat...]. I like your
phrasing better."
[craft] Gunther says, "IT IS TIME FOR STEEL CAGE DEATHMATCH"
[craft] buzzard says (to breslin), "Are you sure you aren't
misinterpreting something Rob said? I don't see him being a smartass."
[craft] Gunther says, "In the left corner: 12-time champion ROB WHEELER"
[craft] Rob says, "if you read something I said as trying to be
smartassed, you read it wrong"
[craft] Gunther says, "In the right corner: ... er, breslin"
[craft] buzzard says (to Rob), "Well, there was the joke reply to
Gunther's 'non-specific'"
[craft] Gunther says (to buzzard), "you're an insu---"
[craft] Gunther says, "---wait, that doesn't work"
[craft] buzzard says (to Rob), "But that seemed more to invite a
'heehee'..."

[cabal] Jota asks, "Hmm. breslin has managed to tick off most of the
people on this channel at one point or another, hasn't he?"
[cabal] Rob says, "hrmf."
[cabal] Jota says, "But, rather than annoying everyone at once like most
folks, he seems to have a talent for annoying people individually, one
at a time."
[cabal] Jota says, "Today, it is Rob's Day."
[cabal] Rob says, "swell"
[cabal] Grocible says, "indeed"
[cabal] Grocible says, "he isn't annoying me today"

[craft] breslin says, "i mean a joking satirical smartass. e.g.: [craft]
Rob says, "something nearby is somehow sorta not quite as wet or dry"
[referring to our attempt to describe wetness in a reasonable way]."
[craft] Rob says, "there was your mistake, I suppose"
[craft] breslin says, "i don't care to argue about it. i figured from
your smartass comments that you had a sense of humor."
[craft] Gunther says, "it's not smartass, it's 'funny'"
[craft] breslin says, "your _incessant_ smartass comments, i might add.
;)"
[craft] Jota says, "You might, if you wanted to dig your hole
substantially deeper."
[craft] Rob says, "good lord, you just keep shoving at it"
[craft] breslin says (to Gunther), "it's both."
[craft] Rob says, "when 'sorry' five minutes ago was the proper
response"
[craft] breslin says (to Jota), "you're the one with the shovel."
[craft] Gunther borrows Jota's shovel and bonks breslin on the head with
it.
[craft] breslin says (to Rob), "i'm very sorry if I offended you. I was
trying to play with the jokes you were making, not trying to humiliate
you or embarass you or correct you or anything."
[craft] Rob says, "embarrass me? I hardly think so"
[craft] breslin says (to Rob), "i'm sorry also you thought i was,
although i'm not going to take offence so easily."
[craft] Jota says, "'Annoy', I think, is the word you're looking for..."
[craft] breslin says (to Jota), "you're annoying me. mind your own
business. quit trying to correct my behavior."
[craft] buzzard says (to breslin), "'insufferable smartass' is not
generally complimentary in any of the English-speaking places I've
lived. Rather the opposite."
[craft] Jota says, "...and that's a gag."
[craft] breslin says (to buzzard), "i was just making a joking
observation. he is definitely a habitual smartass, in a generally
friendly way."
[craft] breslin says, "plus, i already apologized. it was a _joke_
people."
[craft] breslin says, "why the heck would i maliciously attack the
fellow anyway? that's totally irrational."
[craft] Gunther says, "hint: let it rest"

<fee> ....fee fie fo fum
fee arrives in a puff of faerie dust
Jota says, "greets fee."
fee says (to jota), "hello"
Gunther says, "green fee"

breslin whispers, "i assume Jota and company blew things out of
proportion. You yourself were good enough to take my comment the right
way, I hope."
breslin whispers, "I apolgize for having implied along that way that you
might not have a sense of humor."
breslin whispers, "I was being a bit over defensive at that point."

fee asks (of gunther), "green?"
Alex says (to fee), "Awwwk! Word on the street is that Green is about
510 nm."
Gunther says, "green fee as in what you pay to play golf"
fee says (to gunther), "ahhh yes of course, unless you play on apublic
course..."
buzzard asks (of fee), "'green free'?"
buzzard says, "I thought that was what you call a supermarket that
doesn't sell any organic products."
breslin says, "heh"
fee says (to buzzard), "naturally"
breslin says (to buzzard), "smartass ;)"
breslin chuckles.
breslin says, "i would say roughly 60% of mud comments (on any mud, not
just this one) are smartass comments."
Gunther says, "LET. IT. REST."
fee asks (of buzzard), "only 60%?"
breslin asks, "huh?"
Gunther says, "you've already gotten at least one person to @gag you."
Lennier says, "SMARTASS.DLL NOT FOUND."
breslin asks, "what are you talking about?"
fee asks (of breslin), "who?"
Gunther says, "'help @gag'"
breslin says, "i know what it means"
breslin asks, "anyone who would gag me probably should. no?"
veek says, "hmm.  yes."
Gunther says (to breslin), "you don't need to specifically try and get
people to gag you though. which you are, at the moment."
fee asks, "gagging?"
Gunther says (to fee), "'help @gag'"
breslin says, "i'd rather you gag than lecture me, honestly."
fee says, "awww that's mena"
fee says, "or even mean"
Lennier asks (of breslin), "Seriously?"
Gunther says, "I'm just trying to help/warn you in a friendly way"
buzzard says (to breslin), "Lecturing leads to you being a member of the
community. Gagging leads to you not being a member of the community."
breslin says, "yes. in fact if i get any more lecturing today from
anyone, i'm going to gag them."
Lennier says, "Um."
Gunther says, "Piss off too many people, you will get booted and/or
toaded"
Lennier says, "That would be a very foolish thing to do, I'm thinking."
breslin says, "enough is enough"
Gunther says, "fine then"
Lennier says, "sigh."
Lennier says, "One does not walk into a strange lounge and annoy people
if one wants to become part of the group."
TableSaw asks (of breslin), "Would you mind me skipping the lecture and
going straight to you @gagging me?"
Lennier asks, "If one does not want to become part of the group, why is
one in the lounge?"
breslin says, "hehe"
breslin says, "finally someone with a reasonable sense of humor ;)"
Lennier says, "..."
breslin says, "thanks much for adding some levity"
TableSaw says (to breslin), "No, I'm serious.  I'd rather I not have to
worry about you ever responding to my comments."

[peanut-gallery] buzzard says, "eeeeeeeargh"
[peanut-gallery] Lennier says, "Indeed."
[peanut-gallery] Lennier says, "I don't know this guy from Adam and he's
pissing me off."
[peanut-gallery] Lennier says, "and I don't GET pissed off."
[peanut-gallery] Jota says, "Well, I know him from Adam, but that's only
because I know Adam. And he, my friend, is no Adam."

fee says (to lennier), "what if one does not know what will annoy?  One
could be gagged/booted or even toaded unqwittingly..."
Gunther says, "this has nothing to do with humor. people are annoyed at
your behaviour. keep it up, you will be @gagged. keep it up further, you
will be removed."
Gunther says, "this isn't a democracy. you piss us off, you are dealt
with."
Lennier says, "We tend to be a very liberal group here."
buzzard says (to fee), "Generally, one listens and contributes in the
vein of what's going on."
veek says (to fee), "Then one listens to advice as to what annoys
people."
buzzard says, "and then what veek said"
Gunther says (to fee), "it's an extremely long time before anyone will
get booted, even longer before anyone will get toaded"
breslin says, "Gunther, why don't you go get fucked."
Gunther says (to fee), "unless they throw repeated warnings to the wind"
Jota asks, "Am I going to have to ungag him now, people everyne else
keeps talking to him?"
Gunther says (to breslin), "no, why don't you fuck yourself, asshole."
breslin says, "hehe"
Lennier says (to breslin), "See now, that's exactly the kind of comment
that raises hackles around here."
Gunther says (to jota), "boot him"
veek says (to breslin), "Not funny.  At all."
buzzard says (to Jota), "No, not for long"
Gunther says, "@gag in place"
veek says (to Jota), "Second."
Jota recaps.
Jota says, "OK, will do."
breslin goes home.
</breslin> breslin has disconnected from ifMUD.
veek says, "thx"
Gunther says, "idiot"
Jota says, "We aim to please."