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ifMUD
An interactive real time social network chat bulletin board
quotebook url database with a parrot bot
Copyright 1997-2007 by Loungent Technologies, a wholly owned subsidiary of
rec.[arts|games].int-fiction; All rights reserved.
Release 4 / Serial number 990908 / perlMUD v2.1z
    "The characters were mostly of the cardboard cutout variety.
    I wanted to punch everyone except the one Scottish guy."
         --Jearl
  NOTE: Whenever a fix or enhancement is in place, it will be announced
  on the channel '#mud-updates'.
  OTHER NOTE: There is a mailing list where people can say things like
  "hey, the mud's down, what's up with that?" In fact, since this is
  the only thing the list is used for, you should join it if you are
  interested in this subject. To join, go to
    http://groups.google.com/group/ifmud/
  or talk to Steve.
Robinson Manor
A gracious, welcoming, airy space. Music drifts in from unseen speakers. A picture window on the southern wall provides a pleasant source of light and a sense of openness.
You can see: teleporter, a picture window, comfy sofa, Jeopardy podium, buzzer1, buzzer2, buzzer3, Jota greets Rob
Visible Exits: west, east
<Rob> So you're like, "Wow, this book comes with an onion!"
No new channels have been created since your last check.
Adventurer's Lounge
Candles on the wood-panelled walls create a comfortably dark atmosphere. Hand-drawn maps are taped to nearly every surface -- the walls, the ceiling, the trophy case in the corner. Seating is plentiful. A small storage closet is to the north.
You can see: new laundry list, Birthday Calendar, magic laundry list, blank banner, Even Newer World Map, charset sampler, Automeeter, TheMasterTheorem player names, time zones, MUD Client Wish List, battle.net battletags, madlibs, Anything Finder
Players: Alex, markm, Touchy, jpt, Jon, Bishop, marc, GDorn, Jearl, Ryan, Allen, baf, Dave, McMartin, annabianca, Psmith, lpsmith, Jacqueline, Recchi, DorianX, zaphod, Lionheart, inky, ghira, Fang, Marktwo, Matthew, Jota, borowski, DavidW, Hugo, Ellison, Roger, jenrexrode, Doug, Grocible, K-Y
Visible Exits: north, west, southwest, southeast, up, east
Rob comes right on in.
Recapping 1000 of 4225 lines from recent channels:
[whiz-games]/12:41 Whizzard stretches.
[whiz-games]|12:41 Whizzard says, "mrf."
[whiz-games]|12:41 Whizzard says, "Take 2."
[whiz-games]|12:42 inky says, "hee hee"
[whiz-games]|12:44 Whizzard says, "So, starting to work on events some."
[whiz-games]|12:44 Whizzard says, "Looking through my old notes, I have a pretty good cast of characters."
[whiz-games]|12:44 Whizzard says, "There's Death, aka the Lifedrinker..."
[jobs]|12:45 Dave says, "bah"
[jobs]|12:45 Dave says, "having run out of technical tasks, I am assigned QA work"
[jobs]|12:45 Dave says, "but it's only for a couple of days"
[whiz-games]|12:46 Whizzard says, "The trophy maker, a bird, No One, the Rainbow Maiden, a flock of butterflies, the Moon, and a few other misc. folks."
[whiz-games]|12:49 inky says, "that's a pretty good set"
[whiz-games]|12:50 Whizzard says, "I want a very fable/myth-like feel."
[whiz-games]|12:51 Whizzard says, "But I also need to distance it a little further from its Native American beginnings."
[whiz-games]|12:51 Whizzard says, "Not too much more. Just a bit. I can play up the magic of bone and blood more, that sort of thing."
[whiz-games]|12:55 Whizzard says, "Mind you, all the old events were good ones."
[whiz-games]|12:55 Whizzard says, "So I'll have to make all the bad events from scratch."
[workplace]|13:01 Allen says, "a few weeks ago I mentioned our annoying Wilton office developer who demanded shell and root access to the server where he was developing a site, and wouldn't take no for an answer (ended up with us hanging up on him)"
[workplace]|13:01 Allen says, "well, he's been demanding a mail relay now. We told him no. Violates policy. We don't do things that mih possibly get our domain blacklisted"
[workplace]|13:01 katre says, "I recall this"
[telltalegames]|13:02 baf says, "So, apparently there's an upcoming Walking Dead novel that gives backstory for some of the characters from the comic that contradicts what we've already released in the game."
[workplace]|13:02 Allen says, "he demanded to see documentation. Our department head sent him documentation"
[workplace]|13:02 Hjalfi asks, "Why on earth would he want a mail relay?"
[telltalegames]|13:02 baf says, "People are in a tizzy about this."
[workplace]|13:02 Hjalfi says, "...unless he's moonlighting as a spammer, obviously."
[workplace]|13:02 Allen says, "at that point, he Cc'd our company's CEO, and our CIO, and replied back that the policy was idiotic and interferring with work and might cause the project to fail to get done on time"
[workplace]|13:03 Allen says, "and continued to argue and forth. Everytime someone removed them from the email chain, he added them back"
[workplace]|13:03 Allen says, "finally our CIO said to drop the damn argument and work with our rules"
[telltalegames]|13:04 maga says (to baf), "tizzy-liking people, I suspect"
[workplace]|13:04 Allen says, "he's now officially being reported to HR as a potential security risk"
[telltalegames]|13:04 Jota asks, "Angry at you? At the novelizer? At just the unfortunate happenstance?"
[workplace]|13:04 inky says, "wow"
[workplace]|13:04 katre says, "nice"
[telltalegames]|13:05 baf says, "I mean people here."
[telltalegames]|13:05 inky says, "hmm"
[telltalegames]|13:06 inky says, "I know star wars has a couple levels of canon"
[telltalegames]|13:06 baf says, "Apparently it's important to us that our game is canon."
[telltalegames]|13:06 inky says, "where I think the novels are secondary canon"
[telltalegames]|13:06 Jota asks, "Is the novel canon?"
[telltalegames]|13:06 baf asks, "Where do the games fit in? Terriary?"
[telltalegames]|13:06 maga says, "it seems to me that if you farm out an intellectual property to other media and don't supervise it obsessively yourself, you can't really expect canon to cohere across everything"
[telltalegames]|13:07 baf says, "*tertiary"
[telltalegames]|13:07 inky says, "I think this is the main discussion: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Canon#Canon_in_the_Holocron_continuity_database "
[telltalegames]|13:08 baf says, "Apparently folks at Skybound were telling folkls at Telltale 'Yeah, you guys are totally canon' but now they've got another canon that they like better."
[telltalegames]|13:08 Jota asks, "The Walking Dead is already both a comic and a TV show, right?"
[telltalegames]|13:08 Jota asks, "Are both of them part of the same canon?"
[workplace]|13:08 Allen says, "in one of the emails he said something about "Why wasn't I told of this at the start of the project? I know I wasn't told. I know TracyLocke records all my telephone calls. Want me to go to IT and ask them to pull the recording so I can prove we had no advance knowledge?""
[telltalegames]|13:08 lpsmith says (to baf), "Surely you can sell it as a great opportunity to do what geeks do best:  ret-con."
[telltalegames]|13:08 inky says, "I believe they contradict each other to some extent"
[telltalegames]|13:08 inky says, "(..Jota)"
[workplace]|13:08 inky says, "uh"
[workplace]|13:08 katre says, "nice"
[workplace]|13:08 Allen says, "so much entertainment. I'm only sad that he's in Connecticut and I won't get to see him escorted out of the building when, inevitably, he is fired with cause"
[workplace]|13:09 Jota asks, "He wants to know why he wasn't pre-emptively told that he couldn't have a mail relay before he asked for one?"
[workplace]|13:09 Allen says, "yeah"
[workplace]|13:09 Hjalfi says, "You could send flowers. Asafoetida sounds appropriate."
[telltalegames]|13:10 Jota asks, "By the way, is it publically known what stuff is still in the pipeline after Walking Dead?"
[workplace]|13:10 Allen says, "as if it's difficult to switch to an api mail send... we have relationships with two vendors, one a cheap one that handles small one-offs, and one that handles blasts in the millions"
[telltalegames]|13:10 baf says, "I believe Fables was announced."
[Futurama]|13:11 Jota says, "Two new episodes weren't bad."
[telltalegames]|13:11 maga says, "also, the BSG boardgame isn't canon because [spoiler] can be a Cylon"
[Futurama]|13:11 Jota says, "'The two...', I mean."
[telltalegames]|13:11 baf says, "Although the game isn't going to be called Fables because Molyneux has lawyers."
[telltalegames]|13:12 maga says, "(as someone actually pointed out at last boardgames meetup)"
[telltalegames]|13:12 inky says (to baf), "hmm, interesting"
[telltalegames]|13:13 baf says, "I keep hearing grumbling from the Fables team about how they're being pressured to make it more like Walking Dead."
[telltalegames]|13:14 inky says, "ha ha"
[telltalegames]|13:14 inky asks, "ok, so being 'endless' is kind of like being a zombie, right?"
[workplace]|13:16 katre asks, "wait, CT?"
[workplace]|13:16 katre says, "I was thinking this guy sounded like a flame-out we had about a year ago"
[gunnerkrigg]|13:16 baf says, "So, okay. Shadow and Robot aren't in the room, and apparently never were. But Kat saw them and tried to give orders to Robot."
[gunnerkrigg]|13:16 baf says, "So in that bit, she was already in the "dream"."
[workplace]|13:16 katre says, "in his first month he sent multiple company-wide emails explaining how our strategy was all wrong, we needed to change things, he had "Executive-level Vision" and knew what we needed to do"
[gunnerkrigg]|13:17 baf says, "This makes me start to believe the theory that Zimmy was never really there, that it was always just Annie dreaming of being Zimmy."
[workplace]|13:17 inky says, "golly"
[gunnerkrigg]|13:17 baf says, "(as signified by the scar)"
[gunnerkrigg]|13:18 baf says, "It wouldn't be the first time they got their identities confused."
[gunnerkrigg]|13:19 Jota says, "I don't think that Annie dreaming of Zimmy would be able to intentionally take the scar off."
[gunnerkrigg]|13:19 baf says, "It does run into the problem that she usually doesn't seem to be aware of it."
[gunnerkrigg]|13:19 Jota says, "Also, Gamma was still Gamma then, and Gamma's actions here don't really seem consistent with this being Annie dreaming of Zimmy."
[workplace]|13:20 Allen says, "this is our guy. Note his favorite quote: http://www.tracylocke.com/en/profile/1 "
[workplace]|13:20 katre says, "oh, and the project he was assigned to (the code that distributes jobs to our servers in the datacenters) was obscure makework and he'd never have a chance to make an impact, because everyone was set against him"
[gunnerkrigg]|13:20 baf says, "Well, Gamma wasn't necessarily really present either."
[apropos-of-nothing]|13:20 GDorn | http://timeblimp.com/?page_id=519
[gunnerkrigg]|13:21 Jota says, "Also, the end of the current page seems to pretty clearly suggest that the Zimmy who is with Gamma is different from the Annie with Kat."
[apropos-of-nothing]|13:21 GDorn says, "(via Sargent on twitter)"
[gunnerkrigg]|13:21 baf says, "I agree that the Zimmy and Gamma shown at the bottom of the current page are msot likely the real Zimmy and Gamma."
[gunnerkrigg]|13:22 Jota says, "I think it's more likely that the real Zimmy and Gamma entered Kat's and Annie's dreams."
[gunnerkrigg]|13:22 baf says, "But I am predicting that in the next page their conversation will reveal that Zimmy never entered the room."
[workplace]|13:22 Allen says, "his big project was a brandtracker, that tracks awareness of brands in social media. It does this by storing every tweet and facebook post that mentions, say, Pepsi, in either a twitter table or a facebook table... the full post, in a mysql database"
[gunnerkrigg]|13:22 Jota says, "Oh, I thought that was already implied."
[workplace]|13:23 Allen says, "performance was initially terrible on a traditional raid, so they had to get a 1TB SSD raid to make it work"
[workplace]|13:24 Allen says, "he's entirely self-taught in programming"
[workplace]|13:24 katre says, "but with the increasing pace of hardware upgrades coupled with Moore's law, in 20 years that will be a totally reasonable system!"
[gunnerkrigg]|13:24 Jota says, "I agree they were probably never physically present."
[jobs]|13:25 katre says, "don't go into the walk-in google earth kiosk and zoom out really fast while spinning the display"
[jobs]|13:25 katre says, "or you'll get bad vertigo like I have"
[gunnerkrigg]|13:25 Jota says, "Also, I am curious what is up with the makeup."
[gunnerkrigg]|13:25 Jota says, "Since I think the author has already implied somewhere that it has some significance beyond just makeup."
[gunnerkrigg]|13:26 baf says, "There was that bit early on where Kat asks about it and doesn't get an answer, which is always enough to get the fanspec revving."
[gunnerkrigg]|13:27 Jota says, "But it's not obvious if Annie's reaction is because Kat brought the wrong thing (perhaps her makeup is special and this is normal?), or because Annie needs privacy to properly apply it (to do some magic ritual?), or what."
[gunnerkrigg]|13:28 baf says, "Also, the fact that Tom draws our attention to it just now suggests a connection to the mask in the dream."
[apropos-of-nothing]|13:29 inky says, "excellent"
[gunnerkrigg]|13:29 Jota says, "Oh, I didn't think of that."
[gunnerkrigg]|13:29 Jota says, "I guess that the headband is also a kind of mask, probably."
[gunnerkrigg]|13:30 baf says, "It's speculated on the forum that Jones giving her the mask in the forest in the dream is just a simple representation of Jones fetching her the makeup that she left back in the Court."
[gunnerkrigg]|13:30 Jota says, "(Although I'm not sure if removing it means Kat is supposed to actually be bi and is supposed to admit it or if she's supposed to stop caring what other people think or what.)"
[gunnerkrigg]|13:31 baf says, "More likely the latter."
[videogames]|13:33 boucher asks, "So, apparently there's a new port of Final Fantasy VII for the PC?"
[gunnerkrigg]|13:33 Jota says, "That seems more logical, except that it doesn't fit as well with Zimmy's line 'you can't always run from what scares ya'."
[videogames]|13:34 boucher says, "It has a few new features, but the most amusing, for the confusion it can cause in conversation is cloud save support."
[gunnerkrigg]|13:34 baf says, "If there's something Kat's in denial about, it's her status as MACHINE GOD."
[videogames]|13:34 boucher says, "('Save Cloud?  From what?')"
[videogames]|13:34 baf says, "HIMSELF"
[videogames]|13:34 baf says, "The fire that burns within him"
[videogames]|13:36 Jon asks, "what? why would they do this?"
[xkcd]|13:36 Jota says, "OK, bonus points for that."
[xkcd]|13:37 inky asks, "correct character?"
[xkcd]|13:37 Psmith says, "and correctly using it only for non-final s."
[videogames]|13:38 boucher says, "Conversely, what's with all these businesses looking to leverage Cloud-based services?  I don't think a sullen teenager with a large sword is a good replacement for your e-mail servers."
[xkcd]|13:39 Jota says, "Yeah, for both."
[videogames]|13:39 K-Y says, "oh, so the website wasn't a hoax"
[videogames]|13:39 K-Y says, "although I guess the proof was in the fact that FFVII had been spotted in the Steam registry a while ago"
[xkcd]|13:41 vimes says, "hm, i wonder if the giant actually was saying "see, sigh, so, sum""
[telltalegames]|13:42 K-Y says, "apparently stuff from the show might be showing up in the comic soon"
[telltalegames]|13:42 K-Y says, "so a pecking order seems to be forming"
[wiki]|13:42 Doug says, "oh boy, another pledge drive"
[wikipedia]|13:42 Doug says, "oh boy, another pledge drive"
[wikipedia]|13:43 inky says, "once againt the sinister eye of jimmy wales rises in the west"
[xkcd]|13:43 Doug says, "uper awe ome"
[wikipedia]|13:43 Ryan says, "Technically, both his sinister and dexter eyes are there."
[xkcd]|13:44 Doug asks, "aw man, unicode mudding doesn't work from this machine?"
[wikipedia]|13:44 vimes says, "perhaps the dexter eye rises in the east"
[lounge]|13:44 Roger is the Samuel L. Jackson of 8 month old wolves.
[wikipedia]|13:44 vimes says, "the cross-eyed gaze of the Burger King King-esque jimmy wales"
[lounge]|13:45 Roger says, "My peeps"
[videogames]|13:47 baf says, "Hm. I've been planning to replay FF7 for some time, now that I've played first six final fantasies (except 3). And a new release would be easier to run on my current system than the original PC release."
[videogames]|13:47 Roger says, "Series speedrun!  And... go."
[videogames]|13:47 baf says, "(which uses 8-bit palettized textures, which is something no modern graphics card supports)"
[lounge]|13:48 inky says, "hey hey"
[videogames]|13:49 baf says, "(although really it's got a large enough fanbase that getting around such problems isn't difficult)"
[lounge]|13:49 Roger says, "Vacation slackness is in full effect"
[IRTA]|13:50 Jon says, "'Vancian slackness'"
[rpg]|13:52 Roger says, "This Vorheim AP report is pretty mind-blowing"
[lounge]|13:52 Hjalfi says, "Offtime."
[lounge]|13:52 Hjalfi enthusiastically mundanifies between spasms of personality-occultism and off-topic casual/social-leveraging.
[IRTA]|13:52 Roger says, "I did work once but then forgot how"
[rpg]|13:53 Roger | http://rottenpulp.blogspot.com.au/2012/06/hi-im-new-to-rpgs-and-ive-just-starting.html
[spam]|13:53 vimes | Hello my family member! I want to say that this post is awesome, great written and come with approximately all significant infos.  I would like to pee extra posts like this .
[spam]|13:54 vimes | Very shortly this web page will be famous amid all blogging viewers, due to it?s nice articles and/or reviews!!
[spam]|13:54 Roger says, "Sadly my own blog only comes irregularly in spurts and dribbles."
[spam]|13:54 Roger says, "However I'm working on squeezing out something huge."
[rpg]|13:54 inky | The way most travelling-band-of-mismatched-rogues handle race is: there is only one elf. The elf butts in to talk about his crazy elf ideas and propose crazy elf solutions to the party's problems, and he's always doing something weird that shows off his crazy elf culture, but you never see anyone else like him. One is perfect; it makes him uniquely weird.
[rpg]|13:55 Roger says, "Hmm that's also what Lady Blackbird does, now that I think of it."
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[rpg]|13:56 inky says, "ha ha the last line"
[rpg]|13:56 inky says, "for level 3 they are just going to grind some orcs"
[iPhone]|13:57 K-Y says, "man, time for more shmups again"
[iPhone]|13:58 K-Y says, "RayStorm port for $9"
[iPhone]|13:58 K-Y says, "Bug Princess 2 Black Label for $14"
[spam]|14:00 Bishop asks, "Multiple organisms, eh?"
[rpg]|14:00 Roger says, "I always wondered why D&D had that rule that you couldn't gain more than one level per session.  Now I know."
[spam]|14:00 ghira says, "simultaneous organisms"
[spam]|14:01 vimes says, "my favorite kind"
[iPhone]|14:03 K-Y says, "however, RayForce is on sale as a result"
[iPhone]|14:03 K-Y says, "might be worth my while at $6"
[spam]|14:03 Ryan asks, "What the dang heck is "taco bell" doing in there?"
[comics]|14:09 K-Y says, "#wtf http://i.newsarama.com/images/avx2012008_cov_opena_var_02.jpg "
[spam]|14:09 inky asks, "isn't 'bell' rhyming slang for 'penis'?"
[lounge]|14:09 BrenBarn busta.
[diet]|14:09 Matthew sighs.
[comics]|14:09 inky says, "someone needs to photoshop up an extended version of this picture where there's a donut to the right side there"
[diet]|14:09 Matthew says, "I think there were bread crumbs on the eggplant I had at lunch."
[comics]|14:10 Fang says, "haha"
[comics]|14:10 BrenBarn says, "mmm, donuts"
[spam]|14:10 Jota says (to inky), "I think that's new to me."
[diet]|14:11 Allen says, "oh no! and you ate them? Hansel and Gretel were relying on those"
[IRTA]|14:11 Matthew says, "Reading the world 'smuggle' as 'snuggle' can put a bizarre spin on certain sentances."
[spam]|14:11 Doug asks, "er, bell, book, and candle -> handle?"
[IRTA]|14:11 Matthew says, "Er, word, not world."
[spam]|14:11 Psmith says (to inky), "I know of 'bell-end', but not just 'bell'."
[IRTA]|14:12 K-Y says, "the Snuggle Pirate"
[IRTA]|14:12 K-Y says, "nemesis of the Kissing Bandit"
[spam]|14:12 Doug says, "(I just made that up)"
[spam]|14:12 inky says (to Psmith), "oh, that must be what I was thinking of"
[diet]|14:12 inky says, "ha ha"
[diet]|14:12 inky says, "now they're going to end up at the cottage made of candy and totally blow their diet"
[spam]|14:13 Doug | Auntie Nell is Cockney slang for Bell.
[spam]|14:13 Jota asks (of Ps), "Is that rhyming?"
[spam]|14:13 Psmith says (to Jota), "Not that I know of. Just a supposed resemblance."
[diet]|14:13 Matthew says, "The thing is, it was the only item on the entree menu that didn't overtly SAY it had some sort of wheat in it."
[diet]|14:14 Matthew says, "It didn't even say the eggplant was fried!  So I just assumed."
[spam]|14:14 Jota exclaims (at Doug), "Hmm. Auntie -> Auntie Nell -> Bell -> Big Ben -> BB -> Beeb -> Auntie Beeb. It all makes sense!"
[diet]|14:14 Matthew says, "And the desserts all look reeeeeeally good.  :("
[spam]|14:15 BrenBarn says, "-> impotence"
[rpg]|14:16 Jearl says, "okay, that was pretty fucking metal"
[personals]|14:17 BrenBarn | I'm glad that someone as amazing as Leonardo had a lot of unfinished projects. It lets me feel justified when someone gives me a hard time about my many unfinished projects and I punch them in the face. That's for Leonardo!
[programming]|14:18 Jon asks, "if its O(N) to add N items to an array, what is it when before adding each item you loop through all the items you've already added? O(N^2)? Or does the fact that the array will be different lengths each time have any bearing on things?"
[programming]|14:18 inky says, "it's O(N^2) in the big-O case"
[programming]|14:18 katre says, "it ends up being O(N^2) still"
[programming]|14:18 baf says, "It's still O(N^2)."
[programming]|14:18 inky says, "technically it's 1+2+3+4+..N, which is N*(N+1)/2"
[programming]|14:18 katre says, "since the other terms simplify out of existence"
[programming]|14:18 baf says, "right"
[programming]|14:18 Jon says, "yay maths"
[programming]|14:18 Jon says, "thanks"
[personals]|14:19 BrenBarn says, "this profile is pretty zany"
[personals]|14:19 BrenBarn | http://www.okcupid.com/profile/iwasafraid
[personals]|14:21 vimes says, "yay, the little prince reference"
[programming]|14:21 Bishop says, "THis is basically why insertion sort is O(N^2)."
[personals]|14:21 BrenBarn says, "there are a lot of crazy refs"
[personals]|14:22 inky says, "nice!"
[personals]|14:22 inky says, "I like this thing about turtles"
[personals]|14:22 Jota says, "The tricky thing is that Leonardo also had finished projects."
[personals]|14:22 inky says, "hmm, wait, leonardo and turtles"
[personals]|14:23 vimes says, "i always see turtles as a discworld reference, i'm afraid"
[programming]|14:23 baf says, "Well, wait. Inserting an element in an already-sorted list is surely O(log N)."
[personals]|14:23 BrenBarn punches Jota in the face
[personals]|14:23 BrenBarn says, "That's for Leonardo!"
[programming]|14:23 Jon says, "adding an element to the end of an array is assumed O(1). Adding N elements is O(N)."
[personals]|14:23 Jota says (to BrB), "Ha ha."
[programming]|14:24 baf says, "Ah."
[personals]|14:24 BrenBarn says, "'That's for Leonardo!' is right up there with 'And also with you!' as a good catchphrase to use when punching someone"
[personals]|14:24 vimes says, "ha ha"
[programming]|14:24 Bishop says (to baf), "Hmm, yeah. I guess a binary linked-list-based insertion sort would be O(N log N)."
[personals]|14:25 vimes says, "guy 1: "That's for Leonardo! *punch*" guy 2: "And also with you!  *punch*""
[lounge]|14:25 Roger goes home.
[lounge]|14:25 * Roger has disconnected.
[personals]|14:25 vimes says, "guy 1: "wait, what?" guy 2: "HA! *punch*""
[programming]|14:25 katre says (to baf), "depends on whether creating the new space is O(1) (linkedlist) or O(N) (an array)"
[programming]|14:25 baf says, "Inserting into a linked list would be O(1), but I suppose that loses you the ability to do a binary search for the place to insert."
[programming]|14:25 katre says, "right"
[programming]|14:26 baf says, "Unless you're maintaining an index of the list, but then updating that index on each insert would be your O(n) factor."
[personals]|14:26 Bishop says, "Oh, I like this one. She's delightfully geeky. (Idly wondering: is my ex _still_ a grad student at Michigan?)"
[programming]|14:26 katre says, "you can get a bit of improvement by keeping a sparse index"
[programming]|14:26 katre says, "so it gets you to the start of the correct region and from there you search each node"
[programming]|14:26 katre says, "but you'd need a big list before this is worthwhile"
[programming]|14:27 Bishop says, "Oh, ah, binary search in a linked list is hairy. Didn't think about that."
[lounge]|14:27 Roger is the Samuel L. Jackson of 8 month old wolves.
[programming]|14:28 katre says, "really, if you want a sorted data structure, I like a nice tree. red/black is generally good"
[programming]|14:28 Bishop always forgets how red/black trees work.
[programming]|14:29 inky says, "they're a pain in the ass, but not a massive pain in the ass"
[programming]|14:29 Bishop says, "Ah, I guess heapsort kinda _is_ 'binary-search insertion sort in a linked data structure'."
[programming]|14:29 inky says, "that is my recollection"
[lounge]|14:36 Ellison arrives from the east.
[lounge]|14:36 Ellison says, "hey all"
[lounge]|14:37 inky says, "hey hey"
[lounge]|14:37 Felix says, "Hello"
[personals]|14:37 Jota says, "I wonder what she has against the British."
[personals]|14:37 BrenBarn says, "they suck"
[personals]|14:39 inky says, "same thing Paul Revere did"
[personals]|14:39 inky says, "but in bed"
[personals]|14:39 BrenBarn says, "ha ha"
[personals]|14:40 BrenBarn says, "I'm trying to figure out how you could make a 'one if by land and two if by sea' joke from that concept"
[personals]|14:40 Jota says (to inky), "I am trying to merge 'thing Paul Revere did' and 'but in bed', and I am coming up with really weird interpretations of 'one if by land, two if by sea'."
[personals]|14:40 Jota exclaims, "Timing!"
[personals]|14:40 BrenBarn says, "ha ha"
[personals]|14:40 vimes says, "it's not the size of the flare, it's the motion of the guy on the horse screaming his head off"
[personals]|14:42 Ryan says, "2 redcoats 1 lantern"
[personals]|14:42 BrenBarn says, "ha ha"
[money]|14:43 Jon says, "whoops, i forgot my capital one card would start charging me an annual fee"
[personals]|14:43 BrenBarn | If this profile is entirely uninformative, let me give you the important info:
[personals]|14:43 BrenBarn | I'm not a serial killer.
[personals]|14:43 BrenBarn | I've only killed once. ;)
[candy]|14:43 Ryan says, "Man, lately chocolate has been tasting all vegetable to me. It's so odd."
[money]|14:43 Jon says, "guess it's time to switch to the virgin america card, which won't."
[diet]|14:43 lpsmith says, "Ha!  https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=409801555730100&set=a.228790820497842.56943.136268393083419&type=1&theater "
[law]|14:43 Allen | Charles Carreon, self-described "counsel to the good and the good-looking."
[candy]|14:43 BrenBarn asks, "vegetable?"
[candy]|14:43 BrenBarn says, "that is odd indeed"
[diet]|14:44 lpsmith | Skinny?  Thousands gain 10 to 25 pounds this new easy way
[lounge]|14:45 borowski is now in glorious EXTRA COLOR!
[law]|14:45 Allen says, "on how he's completely different than Inman:"
[law]|14:45 Allen | He doesn't resort to name-calling like "dumbass." Instead, he writes, sings, and publishes amazingly offensive songs about "President Evil" (Bush), and requests to waterboard Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke.
[law]|14:45 Allen | "I am not a politician," he says sternly when asked about the apparent discrepancy. "I have not deceived anyone. I am not able to stand armies. It is entirely distinct. The grounds for engaging in savage satire of people who are murderers [is a] completely different situation. That's like comparing touch football with warfare."
[diet]|14:46 Ellison says, "funny"
[lounge]|14:48 Allen says, "I don't think this is the proper forum"
[lounge]|14:48 Allen asks, "maybe #physics? #space?"
[science]|14:48 * NewsBoy hollers, "Extra! Extra! borowski has posted message 136, about 'Is dark matter really evil particles from a mirror universe?', to the bulletin board! Hang on, let me post that to my facebook wall as well."
[lounge]|14:48 borowski says, "Yeah, that was a mistake."
[lounge]|14:48 borowski asks, "Can I delete that?"
[lounge]|14:49 Allen says, "help bb_del"
[lounge]|14:49 borowski says, "Thanks"
[money]|14:49 Bishop asks, "Capital One charges an annual fee? Or do you have some special card?"
[law]|14:50 Allen | "Whenever one loses control of a trademark, they are in danger of their image," Carreon said. "It's one thing to say, `He's a jerk because he issues a legal demand to someone like Oatmeal--like Mr. Inman.' People want to say that's a scumbag thing to do. That comes with the territory." But what crosses the line is when someone else starts making statements using words like "idiot" or "dumbass," he says, which were used on the fake account.
[science]|14:50 inky asks, "why didn't someone photoshop up a picture of two neutrons, one with a goatee?"
[science]|14:50 Ellison says, "ha ha"
[money]|14:50 Jon says, "I have a rewards card."
[money]|14:50 Jon says, "hm."
[money]|14:51 Jon says, "The annual fee is $59. I got $923.05 in rewards last year."
[money]|14:51 Jon says, "maybe i'll stay with this a while longer."
[science]|14:51 borowski says, "What if *our* neutrons have goatees? dum dum dum!"
[money]|14:52 inky says, "there are rewards cards with no annual fee, but I guess if the reward is half as good, then it's still not worth switching"
[money]|14:52 Bishop says, "Hmm. I have a rewards card too, but a lesser level, I think."
[lounge]|14:53 Roger goes home.
[lounge]|14:53 * Roger has disconnected.
[jacq-chat]|14:53 maga says, "sigh. another ranger's died at Rainier"
[money]|14:53 Ryan says, "You guys get *rewards*? I have a punishments card."
[jacq-chat]|14:54 lpsmith says, "I heard about that, yeah."
[money]|14:54 Ryan says, "The less I spend, the more often they come to my house and punch me in the face."
[jacq-chat]|14:54 maga says, "(in a search and rescue, not being shot)"
[jacq-chat]|14:54 maga says, "and Jacqueline has been rushed off to Nonspecific Duties"
[jacq-chat]|14:54 vimes says, "man"
[jacq-chat]|14:55 maga says, "(literal words of her boss: 'you're smart, go down there and do whatever they need you to do')"
[money]|14:55 Jon says (to inky), "I have two rewards cards. The Capital One card gives me two points per dollar spent, and a point is worth $0.01 on any travel."
[jacq-chat]|14:55 inky says, "oog"
[money]|14:55 Jon says, "The Virgin America card gives me one point per dollar spent, and a point is worth one Virgin America mile, which is worth who the fuck knows what."
[money]|14:55 Jon says, "but it doesn't have an annual fee. and I like flying Virgin America."
[jacq-chat]|14:56 vimes says, "the curse of the competent"
[money]|14:56 inky says, "hmm"
[money]|14:56 BrenBarn says (to Ryan), "and do they say 'That's for Leonardo!'"
[jacq-chat]|14:56 maga says, "pretty much"
[money]|14:56 inky says, "if it's 20,000 miles for a trip that would cost $500, then it's 2.5c/point, I guess"
[money]|14:57 Bishop says (to Jon), "Ah, I only have a 1% Capital One card. I got it mostly for international travel, because Capital One will eat foreign-currency fees."
[money]|14:57 inky says, "but if it's more like 50,000 miles then it's more like 1c/point"
[money]|14:57 BrenBarn says, "I never really pay attention to my credit card rewards"
[jacq-chat]|14:57 Ellison says, "dang, another one? man"
[jacq-chat]|14:57 borowski says, "Terrible about the ranger."
[money]|14:58 Jon says, "a weekend trip SFO->JFK->SFO costs 25k miles, or $559."
[jacq-chat]|14:58 maga says, "yeah, I suspect the whole place is pretty shell-shocked at this point"
[money]|14:58 Jon says, "so miles are kind of dumb I guess."
[money]|14:59 BrenBarn says, "it is so dumb how they call them miles but they don't actually represent miles"
[money]|14:59 Jon says, "it's because originally they did, I think."
[money]|14:59 inky asks, "well, you accumulate them based on miles flown, don't you still?"
[money]|14:59 BrenBarn asks, "do you really accumulate one mile per mile flown, though?"
[money]|14:59 Jon says (to inky), "but also dollars spent; you get more miles for a first class ticket"
[money]|15:00 inky says (to BrenBarn), "uh, apparently not"
[lounge]|15:01 Gunther re
[lounge]|15:01 inky says, "hey"
[lounge]|15:01 Gunther says, "gas grill: bought, assembled"
[lounge]|15:01 Gunther says, "new faucet: bought, assembled"
[lounge]|15:01 Gunther says, "kitchen water level: 0"
[lounge]|15:02 inky says, "barbesink fully operational"
[lounge]|15:02 Gunther says, "gas level: 0.45 millicanaries"
[lounge]|15:02 BrenBarn says, "grillaxing: priceless"
[lounge]|15:02 Gunther says, "YES"
[lounge]|15:03 inky says, "ha ha"
[jacq-chat]|15:03 Ellison says, "oh, I thought it was being said that another one died since yesterday. still sad, though."
[lounge]|15:04 Gunther says, "oh man, grillaxing is the one -laxing word I make an exception for"
[workplace]|15:04 Doug says, "awesome, the boss is wearing a Flipadelphia t-shirt"
[jacq-chat]|15:04 inky says, "it's since earlier this year when the ranger was shot"
[workplace]|15:05 borowski says, "Nice"
[jobs]|15:08 vimes says, "whee, at loose ends because i finished or got blocked on all my currently-pending tasks"
[jobs]|15:09 vimes says, "time to find something important but unpopular and do it"
[lounge]|15:09 Allen says, "I would add another for rototillaxin'"
[lounge]|15:09 inky says, "ha ha"
[jobs]|15:09 Ryan says, "It's far more fun to do unimportant but popular things."
[jobs]|15:10 vimes says, "no, those are the things that everyone else is fighting over"
[jobs]|15:10 vimes says, "oh, wait, you mean popular /result/, i mean popular /activity/"
[jobs]|15:10 Ryan says, "Every now and then I spend half an hour making something slightly better or easier to use, and then everyone in the company goes "whoa, thanks!" and remembers why they pay the development team."
[jobs]|15:11 Ryan says, "And then I spend a month upgrading from PHP4 to PHP5 and they go back to wondering why I'm wasting space."
[jobs]|15:11 vimes says, "ha ha"
[jobs]|15:11 vimes says, "i always make sure to spend half an hour making something slightly better or easier to use and claim it's part of the month-long upgrade process"
[jobs]|15:12 Ryan says, "Ha ha"
[jobs]|15:12 vimes says, "(actually, i try to do all my really popular-outcome work that way - on top of something hard to see - so (a) i get more time to work on the hard-to-see things because people think they're required for the popular-outcome work and (b) if i ever need to /really/ impress people i can do something popular-outcome without any of the boilerplate under it)"
[jobs]|15:13 Ryan says, "That is a good strategy."
[jobs]|15:14 Ryan says, "Luckily, I am in charge of the development team, so as long as my underlings keep doing good work, I get credit."
[jobs]|15:14 inky says, "ha ha"
[jobs]|15:15 BrenBarn says, "fiendish"
[lounge]|15:15 Felix goes home.
[jobs]|15:15 vimes says, "it's even more important as a team lead, because then you can have your underlings do important stuff and slap some popular-outcome stuff on top of it yourself"
[Internet]|15:16 Allen says, "hey, Carreon's wife is posting about the kerfuffle: http://www.naderlibrary.com/bulletin_board/viewtopic.php?t=896&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=10 "
[Internet]|15:16 Allen | That's not how the "INTERNET" works, it's how it doesn't work. These Yellow Journalists want to give the Internet to Loki. This attack against FunnyJunk and Charles Carreon is an attack against law and order. Matt Inman is an Internet anarchist. Fascists always love an anarchist. And the Journalists are part of the conspiracy, egging everyone on with their hate headlines, and advice for everyone to get crazy and ATTACK, ATTACK, ATTACK! There's something very bad going on here, which greatly benefits the Publishing Industry, and the copyright chicken hawks.
[Internet]|15:17 inky says, "wow"
[lounge]|15:17 Tale is fired from breathing.
[lounge]|15:17 * Tale has disconnected.
[Internet]|15:17 BrenBarn says, "mackerel"
[Internet]|15:17 Allen says, "wow even:"
[Internet]|15:17 Allen | And I don't know why we can't get a simple yes or no from ANYONE about whether Matt Robert Inman is related to Bobby Ray Inman. Apparently, every journalist in the world doesn't seem to think that knowing WHO Matt Inman is is important. He's a man without parents, brothers and sisters, or childhood friends. A man without a past, just like Barack Obama.
[Internet]|15:17 maga says, "I really don't think that man-on-strawman marriage should be allowed"
[Internet]|15:18 Allen | Sure, there's lots of famous people like that in the world! Usually, they are children of Intelligence Agents, or Intelligence Agents themselves.
[Internet]|15:19 vimes says, "man, that's hilarious"
[Internet]|15:19 vimes says, "sad, but hilarious"
[Internet]|15:19 Allen says, "the person she implies he's related to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Ray_Inman "
[Internet]|15:20 maga says, "I keep wanting to think that this is failed attempt at being funny by imitating a raving paranoiac, but she's probably just the genuine article"
[Internet]|15:21 maga says, "'fascists always love an anarchist' is the crowning moment there"
[Internet]|15:21 katre asks, "wait, "fascists love an anarchist"?"
[Internet]|15:21 katre asks, "is she even aware of what these terms mean?"
[Internet]|15:21 vimes says, "fruit flies like a banana"
[Internet]|15:21 vimes says, "wait, wrong joke"
[Internet]|15:21 katre says, "timing"
[Internet]|15:21 Jearl says, "they're both bad, mmmkay"
[Internet]|15:21 maga says (to katre), "Mussolini was well-known for his anarchist-appreciation parties"
[Internet]|15:21 Allen | We were targeted by the entire Buddhist community when I told them to go fuck themselves, for being nihilists, elitists, and authoritarians.
[Internet]|15:22 katre asks (of allen), "wait what?"
[Internet]|15:22 Allen says, "he and his wife run the American Buddha website. There's some backstory here that I don't get, I assume"
[Internet]|15:23 vimes says, "the problem with anarchist appreciation parties is that they're always so badly organized"
[Internet]|15:24 maga says (to vimes), "that's why you need a fascist to rent the hall and get the chips and beer"
[Internet]|15:24 vimes says, "and make the trains run on time"
[Internet]|15:25 katre says, "no one is ever late to a fascist party"
[UK]|15:27 ghira asks (of annabianca), "Shall I put the kettle on so we can have a cuppa?"
[lounge]|15:27 * Iain has disconnected.
[lounge]|15:27 * Iain has connected.
[UK]|15:28 ghira says, "I won't put it in the airing cupboard this time."
[Internet]|15:28 Allen says, "hey, Carreon has written a song! http://www.american-buddha.com/chaspoet.psychosanta.htm "
[music]|15:34 genericgeekgirl says, "Hehe. Pandora put on a Covenant song just as I finished purchasing tickets to see them in August =)"
[Internet]|15:40 Allen | "Fascists defend hate speech as free speech. Let me repeat: fascists defend hate speech as free speech. If Matthew Inman's hate speech is free speech, then so were all the Nazi cartoons ridiculing Jews. "
[lounge]|15:46 Ellison says, "later"
[lounge]|15:46 Ellison goes back to Squeamhurst..
[lounge]|15:46 * Ellison has disconnected.
[Internet]|15:51 Bishop recaps. "Man, these people are doubling down on the crazystupid _again_."
[facepalm]|15:51 Doug | L C R has been extremely popular for years, delighting fans of all ages. Now this great dice game is available as a card game!
[facepalm]|15:51 Gunther says, "oh gods"
[facepalm]|15:51 Doug | Each player starts with three chips. On your turn, flip over cards to see where your chips go. The last player with chips wins the pot! Includes 110 specially-designed game cards.
[Internet]|15:51 baf says, "And yeah, he's right about that last point. Under US law, at least, Nazi cartoons ridiculing Jews definitely do fall under free speech."
[facepalm]|15:52 Doug says, "hm, 110 is not a multiple of 3."
[Internet]|15:52 Gunther says, "Twitter accounts ridiculing Carreon do not, apparently"
[lounge]|15:52 * Marktwo has disconnected.
[lounge]|15:52 * Marktwo has connected.
[Internet]|15:53 Bishop says, "Well, if they're actually impersonating him it's more complicated."
[Internet]|16:04 Allen says, "also, his wife again:"
[Internet]|16:04 Allen | Matt Inman seems to be the de facto leader of the modern American Hitler Youth.
[Internet]|16:04 katre asks, "wow, are they trying to demonstrate what actual online defamation looks like?"
[Internet]|16:05 katre says, "because if anyone's got a case here..."
[Internet]|16:07 Gunther asks, "is this going to be Carreon twatting it up until someone literally punches him in the cock, then suing, a la the Phelps Shitfuckers?"
[Internet]|16:08 Gunther says, "because I'm about ready to punch him in the cock, and I have a theory that no court in the world would find me guilty"
[Internet]|16:10 baf says, "Certainly not if he attempts to handle the proscecution himself."
[ice-cream]|16:11 Gunther says, "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"
[ice-cream]|16:11 Gunther says, "I'm out of ice cream"
[jobs]|16:13 Ryan says, "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"
[apropos-of-nothing]|16:14 Jota says, "I wonder how you move a water cooler with a full bottle."
[jobs]|16:14 Ryan says, "Guy we've been courting as a possible dev hire says he's really not sure he wants to work remotely, but also can't relocate."
[apropos-of-nothing]|16:14 BrenBarn says, "open the spigot and drain the water into another bottle"
[apropos-of-nothing]|16:15 Jota says, "Oof. That sounds tedious and time consuming."
[apropos-of-nothing]|16:15 BrenBarn says, "or you just muscle it around even though it's full"
[apropos-of-nothing]|16:15 (from Jota) Jota says, "I'll just go with the quick and exciting flood option instead!"
[apropos-of-nothing]|16:15 vimes says, "personally, i'd just yoink the bottle off and deal with the small amount of leakage"
[apropos-of-nothing]|16:15 BrenBarn says, "but you can always -- yeah"
[apropos-of-nothing]|16:15 vimes says, "you have to say 'yoink!' though, otherwise it's no fun"
[apropos-of-nothing]|16:15 BrenBarn says, "what about zoop"
[apropos-of-nothing]|16:16 Jota says (to BrB), "You say that when detaching velcro."
[apropos-of-nothing]|16:16 vimes says, "zoop is surely the noise you make when you're tossing it to the next bare-chested, oiled-muscled, perfectly-tanned individual while stomping your feet in time to an unheard beat"
[Internet]|16:16 maga says, "your honour, Nazis love it when an anarchist punches a Buddhist in the cock. Therefore, free speech is hate speech, copyright is theft, and Matt Inman is the guy from Cold Mountain and should be locked up for desertion."
[rant]|16:17 genericgeekgirl says, "Argh. Someone in the lab is having trouble sending mail to a mailing list that is run by Research Computing (i.e. it's not something I can fix). I can send mail to it fine, and I'm not even on the mailing list myself. So I'm trying to get this person to contact RC her own damned self, rather than forcing me to be a go-between for a problem that I can't even reproduce."
[rant]|16:17 vimes says, "i am always astonished by how difficult this process can be"
[Internet]|16:18 vimes says, "you forgot 'black is white'"
[Internet]|16:20 maga says, "what are you, some kind of hate-speeching racist"
[names]|16:20 BrenBarn says, "the 6th-highest rated user on Facebook Scrabble is listed as 'Blessing Diejomaoh'"
[facebook]|16:22 BrenBarn says, "it's kind of shameful to see that a relative of mine has 'liked' Wal-mart"
[names]|16:23 inky says, "hunh"
[names]|16:23 Gunther says, "at a guess, Nigeria"
[facebook]|16:24 Allen says, "one problem with working here is that our developers have to all 'like' every Pepsi beverage, pizza hut pizzas, the US air force, and many other brands we work on"
[facebook]|16:24 BrenBarn says, "that sucks"
[facebook]|16:25 Allen says, "like, when one of our hipper coworkers liked Ryan's Buffet, someone replied back to him 'What are you, like 78 years old now?'"
[facebook]|16:25 inky says, "ha ha"
[lounge]|16:25 Hugo stacks his car into the lounge. The damage is astonishingly comprehensive and in some places, very difficult to explain. Gunther then does some more damage to it, in a manner that is both out of character and hilarious. NOW SOMEONE HAS TO PAY.
[facebook]|16:25 inky says (to Allen), "that is pretty crazy"
[facebook]|16:25 vimes says, "that seems like a good way to cheapen your facebook influence"
[facebook]|16:25 inky says, "like marketing/client-rep people I can see, maybe"
[facebook]|16:25 Dave says, "someone should do a documentary on buffet restaurants"
[facebook]|16:25 inky says, "also, the guy should also like Warren Buffet"
[facebook]|16:26 Dave says, "and here is another unusually large family"
[facebook]|16:26 Allen says, "oh, I don't mean we have to like these things because we're required to support our product"
[facebook]|16:26 Allen says, "I mean, we have to like it because we build facebook apps for all these things, and the like is required to interact with the apps"
[facebook]|16:26 vimes says, "ah"
[facebook]|16:26 inky says, "oh, ok"
[facebook]|16:27 vimes says, "i solve that problem by having a facebook account for whatever company i'm working for"
[facebook]|16:27 vimes says, "and it can like any damn thing it pleases"
[facebook]|16:27 vimes says, "and i can stay curmudgeonly and not like anything"
[food]|16:28 Gunther says, "oh, also: new grill!"
[food]|16:29 inky says, "Gunther keeps getting in my grill"
[food]|16:30 Gunther says, " http://www.weber.com/explore/grills/gas-portable/weber-q-120-1 "
[food]|16:30 Gunther says, "(but with legs)"
[food]|16:30 vimes says, "that's a good one!"
[food]|16:31 Allen says, "oh, I was assume the latest George Foreman non-stick grill for healthy eating (tm)"
[food]|16:35 Gunther says, "nobody knows or cares about Foreman here"
[lounge]|16:35 Marktwo goes home.
[lounge]|16:35 * Marktwo has disconnected.
[food]|16:36 Gunther says, "and the best thing was"
[lounge]|16:36 Marktwo likes a lounge. It prefers the one at the Radisson in Minneapolis, but this one'll do in a pinch.
[food]|16:36 Iain says, "I heard something about him getting into boxing. Seems a bizarre career move for a grill magnate."
[food]|16:36 Gunther says, "I went to the store on a total whim, asked about that grill"
[food]|16:36 Gunther says, "and suddenly she says "by the way, do you know about our promotion?""
[food]|16:36 Gunther says, ""No""
[lounge]|16:36 Olly arrives in a puff of yellow smoke, which makes them cough.
[lounge]|16:37 Olly says, "Hello, MUDfolk."
[food]|16:37 Gunther says, ""If you buy a grill today, between 6:30 and 7:30, we pay you back VAT""
[food]|16:37 Gunther says, "VAT is 20% so I'd get 16.6666% back"
[food]|16:37 Gunther says, "so I waited around until that time"
[jobs]|16:37 Olly asks, "What do you reckon a budtender is?"
[food]|16:37 Gunther says, "and went to the register and mentioned it"
[jobs]|16:37 Gunther says, "a bartender only selling budweiser"
[jobs]|16:38 BrenBarn says, "pot grower"
[lounge]|16:38 Matthew goes home.
[jobs]|16:38 BrenBarn says, "or pot seller"
[food]|16:38 Gunther says, "and it was blindingly obvious this promotion only actually was valid in another store at another time of day"
[food]|16:38 Gunther says, "BUT I still got it"
[jobs]|16:38 Olly says (to BrenBarn), "That would make sense."
[lounge]|16:38 BrenBarn says, "time to go"
[lounge]|16:38 BrenBarn says, "adios"
[lounge]|16:38 BrenBarn flashes the "catch you later" handsign.
[jobs]|16:38 Olly says, "The job is in a dispensary, which around here almost always means a medical marijuana dispensary."
[food]|16:39 Gunther says, "this is now the fourth or so time that I've been given random discounts by salespeople"
[food]|16:40 Gunther says, "I can only assume that I'm the least annoying customer in existence"
[food]|16:41 Gunther says, "ALSO"
[food]|16:41 Gunther | Built from the ground up with Apple users in mind, Weber's On the Grill for iPhone, iPad, and Android ...
[food]|16:42 vimes says, "ha ha"
[lounge]|16:42 jscott goes home.
[food]|16:42 Gunther asks, "...is pretentious and way too expensive, except it's free on Android?"
[lounge]|16:42 Matthew was only a crime because the government said so.
[lounge]|16:42 Matthew says, "I wondered why you all hadn't said anything in like 20 minutes.  NOW I KNOW."
[food]|16:43 Psmith asks, "on the grounds that Apple users will pay for any old tat so long as it _looks_ good?"
[jobs]|16:43 Dave says, "oops"
[lounge]|16:43 Olly says, "Hello, Matthew."
[lounge]|16:43 Tale explains that time is a corridor. You can't enter into time, but sometimes time can try to enter into the present.
[jobs]|16:43 borowski says, "I suppose it would be a good job if you like taking care of plants."
[food]|16:43 Gunther says, "actually it's $5 on all platforms"
[lounge]|16:43 Tale says, "re"
[jobs]|16:43 Dave says, "I'm checking out twitter and accidently click no panty day hasktag search"
[food]|16:43 Gunther says, "and it's 250 recipes or something"
[jobs]|16:43 Dave says, "someone had changed their profile picture"
[jobs]|16:43 Dave says, "to NOT SAFE FOR WORK"
[jobs]|16:44 Olly says, "Oops."
[tale]|16:44 Tale says, "Wow"
[jobs]|16:44 Dave says, "CLOSE BROWSER CLOSE BROWSER WHEW"
[tale]|16:44 Tale says, "My gf does reenactment, especially British stuff."
[jobs]|16:44 Olly says (to ouroboroski), "Yes.  I might apply for it, only they want someone with experience."
[tale]|16:44 Tale says, "Her group has just been ask to take part in the Assassins Creed III launch."
[tale]|16:45 Gunther says, "cool"
[jobs]|16:45 Olly says, "I only have experience killing plants."
[food]|16:46 Gunther says, "also, I can see why Weber stuff is expensive, but the accessories are hilariously overpriced"
[food]|16:46 Gunther says, "$100 for a rain cover."
[jobs]|16:46 Olly says, "I worked a couple of summers doing noxious weed control."
[tale]|16:46 vimes says, "neat"
[jobs]|16:47 borowski says, "Well, you could mention that, and say that you'll do the exact opposite."
[tale]|16:47 inky says, "nice!"
[tale]|16:47 inky asks, "is she going to do the jump off a high building part, or the run around until the guards forget about her part?"
[tale]|16:48 vimes asks, "ooh, ooh, how about the 'stab random passerby' part?"
[tale]|16:48 Gunther says, "please"
[jobs]|16:48 Olly says, "Smelling like marijuana might be a not-good thing, though, since my apartment's management has said they might decide to bring in drug dogs."
[tale]|16:48 Gunther says, "in AC3 you stab deer, tommies, and ... tree branches"
[jobs]|16:49 Olly says, "Medical marijuana is legal in the state of Montana, but it is still illegal federally, and my building is federally subsidized."
[tale]|16:50 Tale says, "She is one of those getting stabbed, I fear"
[jobs]|16:50 Allen says, "here, if you don't smell like marijuana and you're applying for a graphic designer job, you get points counted against you"
[jobs]|16:50 vimes says, "hee hee"
[jobs]|16:51 borowski says (to Olly), "I don't think you'd smell like marijuana if you were just tending the plants."
[jobs]|16:51 Olly says, "I probably would to a dog."
[jobs]|16:51 vimes says, "all the best graphic designers i know around here have godawful fashion sense and toxify the restrooms more than anyone else"
[people-suk]|16:51 Gunther says, "oh my god this is the most obnoxious ollification yet"
[tale]|16:52 Tale says, "Okay, looks like they might go, but nothing definitive"
[jobs]|16:54 Olly says, "People used to smoke marijuana in my dorm."
[jobs]|16:55 Olly says, "It wasn't even permitted to smoke tobacco inside the dorm, so it was always very obvious."
[people-suk]|16:56 Jota asks (of Gunther), "Because she's not allowed to work in a marajuana farm while living where she does?"
[people-suk]|16:57 Gunther says, "I can't even quantify it"
[jobs]|16:57 Olly says, "Here people are allowed to smoke tobacco in their units."
[house-of-cards]|16:57 olethros says, "ach"
[people-suk]|16:57 Gunther says, "it's all klaxons and sirens and screens flashing "OH GOD I DON'T CARE""
[cabal]|16:57 katre says, "I was just going to snark about this work email thread about cryo-preservation (it boils down to "whole-body or just the head?")"
[people-suk]|16:58 Jota asks, "Have you considered @mutec?"
[people-suk]|16:58 Gunther says, "considered and executed with extreme prejudice"
[cabal]|16:58 katre says, "then I noticed that Jon is about half the conversation"
[jobs]|16:58 Olly says, "There were signs up a while ago, though, saying that someone had been smoking marijuana, and if they didn't quit the management would bring in drug dogs."
[cabal]|16:59 inky says, "ha ha ha"
[lounge]|16:59 Jota says, "Woo, boss just walked in and said 'go home'."
[lounge]|16:59 Jota turns into a slimy toad!
[house-of-cards]|16:59 olethros says, "'friends' told us they'd take the bus but in the end they ended up going to the party with somebody else. fucking arsehole liars"
[ollyprattle]|16:59 Olly talks to themself.
[ollyprattle]|16:59 Olly asks, "Themselves?"
[ollyprattle]|16:59 Olly says, "Hm."
[greece]|17:00 olethros says, "ok, now economics minister in hospital too"
[jobs]|17:00 Allen says, "and no one shows up in a suit. I remember when a pats guy showed up for #workplace egad"
[jobs]|17:00 Allen says, "oops"
[ollyprattle]|17:00 vimes says, ""autotalks""
[workplace]|17:00 Allen says, "egad"
[workplace]|17:00 Allen says, "the guy I mentioned earlier has uploaded code"
[cabal]|17:00 Hugo says, "Wait! So which is it?!"
[workplace]|17:00 Allen says, "there's an html part where you put in your birthyear"
[workplace]|17:00 Allen says, "in his html file, he as an option for every year, written out, in html"
[cabal]|17:00 Iain says, "It's just the body, no head."
[cabal]|17:01 inky says, "ha ha"
[workplace]|17:01 Gunther asks, "is his name Naglik?"
[cabal]|17:01 inky says, "in the future they will have better cyber-brains"
[cabal]|17:01 inky says, "but elbows will be really valuable"
[cabal]|17:01 katre says (to iain), "there's an insnaity wolf meme for that option, yes"
[greece]|17:01 Olly asks, "Why?"
[greece]|17:01 inky says, "the greek economy is ill -- and it's contagious"
[greece]|17:01 olethros says, "ha ha ha"
[greece]|17:01 olethros says, "THE ECONOBUG"
[greece]|17:02 olethros says, "I am deeply sadenned by the amount of xenophobia I see around me though"
[greece]|17:02 Tale asks, "Towards the Greek, you mean?"
[greece]|17:02 olethros says, "I was talking to this dutch professor and she was complaining about the moroccan immigrants :/"
[greece]|17:02 olethros says, "now, generally"
[greece]|17:03 Olly frowns.
[greece]|17:03 inky says, "in greece towards immigrants, I think he means"
[greece]|17:03 olethros says, ""oh the turkish are OK, they were assimilated^W integrated, but these moroccans, my god, they are bored, they know not what to do so they commit crimes, I tell you"
[greece]|17:03 olethros says, "no, xenophobia everywhere in europe"
[greece]|17:04 Iain says, "Good thing Europe has no history of this sort of thing erupting into violence."
[greece]|17:04 olethros says, "and it's stupid, because europe is a tiny place. It'd be as though NYers were xenophobic towards Floridians"
[greece]|17:04 Iain says, "Ha"
[greece]|17:04 inky says, "well, that much is true"
[greece]|17:04 Iain says, "Hee hee"
[greece]|17:04 Olly says, "People in Montana don't like immigrants from California."
[greece]|17:05 Tale says, "But, Hanna Montana is from California!"
[greece]|17:05 olethros says, "sure, and people in south of france don't like parisians, but they don't protest PARISIANS OUT, at least not in an organised way"
[greece]|17:06 olethros says, "(you do see some graffiti though)"
[greece]|17:06 Olly says, "I don't know if I'd call that xenophobia, though.  What they mostly don't like is monied Californians coming here, buying the land and driving up the property taxes of real farmers and ranchers."
[greece]|17:07 Tale says, "Well, foreigners are stealing money & our chyx, the rumor goes"
[lounge]|17:07 * Marktwo has disconnected.
[lounge]|17:07 * Marktwo has connected.
[greece]|17:07 olethros says, "that's just because chyx have all the money"
[greece]|17:07 Olly says, "In this case they are bringing the money with them."
[videogames]|17:09 McMartin says, "ME3 Extended Cut next Tuesday, I see"
[greece]|17:09 borowski says, "Most of the xenophobia I've seen towards Floridians has been about their driving."
[videogames]|17:09 Gunther says, "at this point I hope it's a little 20-minute song by all the developers"
[greece]|17:09 olethros says, "that's not xenophobia that's just sheer terror"
[videogames]|17:09 Gunther says, "like 'row row row your boat' but with 'go go fuck yourselves'"
[videogames]|17:10 McMartin says, "I'm mostly hoping they explain away the continuity errors I happened to not get"
[videogames]|17:10 McMartin says, "A bunch of things people bitched about I didn't bitch about because they apparently assumed certain people weren't in your squad, so they teleport around without explanation"
[videogames]|17:10 McMartin says, "I'm hoping for actual teleporters added"
[videogames]|17:11 inky says, "heh"
[greece]|17:11 olethros asks, "what's the impression in germany of greek promises, anyway?"
[greece]|17:11 olethros says, "(man-on-the-street impression that is)"
[greece]|17:11 Tale says, "We give them money, they call us nazis. Fuckers."
[videogames]|17:11 Gunther says, "I gotta say after the shitwaterfall raining down on D3 I've come around on ME3 and accept that it's the internet being fucknuts"
[greece]|17:12 Tale says, "(Is the impression, not my opinion)"
[greece]|17:12 Olly says, "Meanwhile they are breeding real Nazis."
[videogames]|17:12 McMartin says, "It could use some actual attempts at deneoument, at least."
[greece]|17:12 olethros asks, "so nobody has understood that the money only goes back to foreign banks?"
[videogames]|17:12 Gunther says, "also English really needs a good word for shitwaterfall"
[videogames]|17:12 inky says, "ha ha"
[greece]|17:12 Tale says, "of course, I do want to punch everyone in the face who calls me a nazi just because I'm german, but that's besides the point here."
[videogames]|17:12 McMartin says, "I just start impersonating Heavy Weapons Guy and announce INTERNET IS FULL OF TINY BABIES"
[greece]|17:12 Tale says (to olethros), "Yep"
[videogames]|17:12 vimes says, "i like shitwaterfall better than the common 'shitstorm'"
[videogames]|17:13 Gunther says, "except tiny babies can't type"
[greece]|17:13 olethros says, "yeah, I wish the real nazis were dealt with by the greek press"
[tangent]|17:13 Gunther | Xing is a first-person atmospheric adventure game about a solo wanderer whose spaceship crashed on a mysterious island and who must then overcome puzzling obstacles to figure out his or her next move.
[videogames]|17:13 McMartin says, "Neither can your average forumgoer"
[tangent]|17:13 Gunther says, "on the way you connect to other people, get stupid job offers, then have your account hacked"
[tangent]|17:13 Gunther says, "wait, that's LinkedIn"
[greece]|17:14 olethros says, "in any case, from what I understood in this party I attended, nobody understands that the money just goes to banks (also in the case of portugal and spain)"
[greece]|17:14 olethros says, "(and ireland and ..)"
[tangent]|17:14 inky blinks
[greece]|17:14 olethros asks, "so the hedge funds that profited from all this are getting bailed out. Damn it why do they always get a sweet deal?"
[tangent]|17:15 Gunther says, " http://www.xing.com "
[tangent]|17:15 Gunther says, "pronounced 'crossing'"
[house-of-cards]|17:15 * borowski has joined the channel.
[tangent]|17:15 Gunther says, "versus http://xingthegame.com/info.html "
[lounge]|17:15 Iain says, "Night all"
[lounge]|17:15 Iain leaps astride a mountain pony and gallops off bareback for reinforcements.
[greece]|17:15 Tale says, "It's all fucked up. And of course the wrong people are fighting over it."
[tangent]|17:16 Gunther says, "and of course 'Xing a Para-Grab'"
[tangent]|17:16 Gunther says, "by E A Poe"
[greece]|17:16 olethros asks, "who?"
[ollyprattle]|17:17 Olly says, "Economies are strange."
[greece]|17:17 Tale says, "My impression is the Greek hate Germans and Germans hate Greek."
[greece]|17:17 olethros says, "yeah, but the german hatred is more abstract."
[greece]|17:18 olethros says, "i.e. a greek can say 'My pay is cut 30%. It's all Merkel's fault', so they can assign blame for something"
[greece]|17:20 olethros says, "I am not sure how the chain of false reasoning would work in germany"
[ollyprattle]|17:21 Olly says, "They can cease working even though all of the tangible factors remain the same."
[greece]|17:23 Tale says, "As I said. "We give them money, they hate us, because they need to save money to save their country. Lazy slackers.""
[ollyprattle]|17:23 Olly says, "In the Great Depression in the United States, people didn't go hungry because there wasn't enough capacity to produce food, but rather because they couldn't buy the food."
[greece]|17:24 olethros says, "but it's more an attribute association rather than hate for something tangible"
[greece]|17:24 olethros says, "i.e. 'taking our jobs' or 'crime'"
[greece]|17:24 olethros says, "e.g. 'oh those niggers they are all monkeys'"
[greece]|17:25 olethros says, "s/e.g./c.f."
[starwars]|17:25 * NewsBoy hollers, "Extra! Extra! katre has posted message 66, about 'Empire Strikes Back.gif', to the bulletin board! I'm... too sexy for this news."
[ollyprattle]|17:26 Olly says, "This was because companies didn't want to buy their labor.  As far as I can tell, that was caused by strange intangible financial happenings."
[starwars]|17:26 vimes says, "makes me long for ansi animation ascii art"
[greece]|17:27 olethros says, "anyway, this nationalistic thinking serves no good purpose. I wish we were more like the US"
[greece]|17:27 Olly says, "The US has nationalism."
[greece]|17:28 Olly asks, "You mean you wish that the countries of Europe related to one another more like US states?"
[greece]|17:28 olethros says, "yeah. Though there are secessionists in the US of course"
[greece]|17:28 Olly says, "There are, but they are fringe elements."
[greece]|17:28 Olly says, "No, anyway."
[greece]|17:28 Olly says, "*Now"
[npr]|17:29 borowski | Weekend Edition now has donkey rides for the kids.
[ollyprattle]|17:30 Olly says, "It is odd that a failure of what seem to me like meta-phenomena can cause so much havoc in the tangible economy."
[npr]|17:31 Olly asks, "?"
[ollyprattle]|17:31 olethros says, "oh, it's just due to panics and simultaneous deleveraging"
[lounge]|17:31 Jota arrives from the east.
[lounge]|17:31 Jota greets.
[lounge]|17:31 Olly says, "Hello, Jota."
[ollyprattle]|17:32 olethros says, "in a closed economy, my income is your spending"
[lounge]|17:34 Gunther is a game about well-bred young ladies firing improbable amounts of projectiles at each other for no immediately discernible reason.
[lounge]|17:34 olethros says, "z"
[lounge]|17:34 olethros has ordered three mega-generators to be installed in his boathouse.
[npr]|17:36 borowski says, "It was part of a promo for Weekend Edition. "News, sports, books, music, and donkey rides.""
[ollyprattle]|17:38 borowski says, "The tangible factors may stay the same, but economics is also based on human psychology."
[vimesical]|17:38 vimes says, "man, i just realized that one of the guys who was on one of the phone interviews with valve was (probably) Gabe Newell"
[vimesical]|17:38 inky says, "golly"
[vimesical]|17:38 inky says, "either that or penny-arcade's Gabe"
[vimesical]|17:38 vimes says, "that seems somewhat less likely, since the other guy was not Tycho"
[ollyprattle]|17:39 Olly says, "Yes."
[lounge]|17:39 Gunther just looks like a moron throwing around jars of spiders... bitch please.
[lounge]|17:39 Olly says, "Hello, Gunther."
[vimesical]|17:41 vimes says, "but it was like "This is Bob Smith and Gabe" and the other phone interview was "This is John Doe and Fred McSomeOtherName""
[vimesical]|17:41 inky says, "ha ha"
[vimesical]|17:41 inky says, "so it was either Gabe Newell, or a supermodel or singer"
[vimesical]|17:41 vimes says, "and gabe's voice sounds an awful lot like gabe newell in the interviews i've found"
[vimesical]|17:42 vimes says, "so, kind of awesome (but not something that has a particular impact) if so"
[vimesical]|17:42 inky says, "I wonder what his position is"
[vimesical]|17:42 Gunther says, "head blacksmith"
[vimesical]|17:42 vimes says, "newell's?  "more not your manager than anyone else""
[vimesical]|17:42 inky says, ""managing director""
[vimesical]|17:43 Gunther says, "bitcoin maven"
[lounge]|17:45 borowski's corporeal form was TP'ed while he was astral projecting.
[lounge]|17:45 * borowski has disconnected.
[lounge]|17:45 Hugo goes home.
[lounge]|17:45 * Hugo has disconnected.
[lounge]|17:45 borowski is now in glorious EXTRA COLOR!
[ollyprattle]|17:46 Olly says, "It is strange, though, because a lot of finance involves money that is pretty much imaginary.  It only exists because people agree that it exists.  Nevertheless, if a lot of imaginary money is lost, suddenly people can't buy food."
[lounge]|17:46 DavidW materializes out from a silver haze in the light.
[lounge]|17:46 DavidW says, "TGIF"
[lounge]|17:46 Olly says, "Hello, DavidW."
[lounge]|17:46 Hugo arrives from the east. Hugo asks, "Anybody want a cow?"
[lounge]|17:46 DavidW says, "hello Olly"
[food]|17:46 Gunther says, "hmm, what to "baptize" this grill with tomorrow"
[lounge]|17:46 Olly asks (of DavidW), "Why?"
[lounge]|17:46 Olly says, "Hello, Hugo."
[ollyprattle]|17:46 borowski says, "Yes, money is odd.  There was an interesting episode of This American Life about money."
[lounge]|17:46 borowski says, "Hey DavidW"
[food]|17:46 lpsmith exclaims, "Born a steer, raised a steer, now a fish!"
[lounge]|17:47 DavidW says (to Olly), "yeah, I know. I should thank the flying spaghetti monster for Friday, too."
[lounge]|17:47 Hugo says, "What has two thumbs and nope I got nothing."
[MacOS]|17:47 Hugo says, "Weird.  My Mac just done frozed up."
[ollyprattle]|17:47 borowski says, "Including a culture that used huge stones as money. They were so big they couldn't actually physically exchange them."
[DustWorld]|17:47 DavidW says, "It was my pick up day at the food bank today."
[ollyprattle]|17:48 Olly says, "Interesting."
[ollyprattle]|17:48 borowski says, "But everyone agreed that they exchanged owners. That included a stone that had fallen off of a ship and was under the ocean."
[food]|17:48 inky says, "ha ha hooray"
[DustWorld]|17:48 DavidW says, "As I was leaving at the end of the day, they called me back to get more bananas."
[greece]|17:48 boucher says, "Belatedly, http://www.filibustercartoons.com/comics/20120613.gif "
[DustWorld]|17:48 inky says, "yes, we have more bananas"
[DustWorld]|17:48 borowski says, "Hooray! Vitamins!"
[food]|17:48 Gunther says, "wha"
[DustWorld]|17:48 DavidW says, "yes,"
[lounge]|17:49 Limax hits the ground with a THUD!
[DustWorld]|17:49 DavidW says, "And potassium, which I'm sure is good for something."
[DustWorld]|17:49 Olly says, "So that is what is special about Friday."
[DustWorld]|17:49 borowski says (to DavidW), "I think your brain likes it."
[lounge]|17:49 Olly says, "Hello, Limax."
[DustWorld]|17:50 DavidW says, "Oh, and there was meat and desserts this week. I took some general's chicken and cookies."
[lounge]|17:50 Limax says, "Hello"
[DustWorld]|17:50 Olly says, "If you don't get enough potassium you feel rotten."
[DustWorld]|17:50 Olly says, "I guess it is good for keeping you from feeling rotten."
[drwho]|17:51 Limax says, "I am really turned off by the opening during the sixth series"
[drwho]|17:51 baf asks, "The one with the voiceover by Amy?"
[drwho]|17:51 Limax says, "It makes me feel like it's been cheapened"
[drwho]|17:51 Limax says, "Yes"
[DustWorld]|17:52 Gunther says, "fun fact: bananas are about as good for nutrition as a cookie (that is to say, not very)"
[DustWorld]|17:52 DavidW says, "My swag also contained yoghurt, prune juice, strawberries, onions, potatoes, lettuce, mac dinner, tea, more bath foam, bagels, snack bars, Easter sugar bead necklace, giant size can of French Canadian pea soup, normal can of other soup, can of veggies."
[drwho]|17:52 Limax says, "Like the show has a whole new premise and is ignoring the last 48 years"
[DustWorld]|17:52 Gunther says, "also they contain enough radioactivity to set off airport alerts"
[DustWorld]|17:53 DavidW says, "Oh, and I was also forced to take a box of Ferraro Rocher chocolates. (well, not forced, but y'know what I mean)"
[DustWorld]|17:53 DavidW says (to Gunther), "Don't worry, I have plenty of cookies now as well."
[DustWorld]|17:53 borowski asks (of Gunther), "Naturally or from irradiation?"
[DustWorld]|17:54 Olly asks (of DavidW), "What is French Canadian about the pea soup?"
[DustWorld]|17:54 Gunther says, "it says "HONH HONH HONH EH" on the can"
[DustWorld]|17:55 DavidW says, "I think that's the type of pea it uses. A yellow one, unless I have no idea what I'm talking about, which is likely."
[DustWorld]|17:55 DavidW says, "Or maybe it's the cream in it."
[ollyprattle]|17:55 Olly says, "I bought some mung beans today.  I had never seen a mung bean before."
[ollyprattle]|17:55 Limax asks, "What do you use it for?"
[rant]|17:56 Tale asks, "Is every single save point system on this planet designed to pissed me off?"
[ollyprattle]|17:56 lpsmith says, "Munging."
[ollyprattle]|17:56 Olly says, "I am going to make mung bean sprouts."
[DustWorld]|17:56 boucher says (to borowski), "Naturally.  They sequester potassium from the environment, and a certain percentage of any random sampling of potassium in the environment is likely to be K-40, a radioactive isotope."
[DrawSomething]|17:56 Limax says, "One of my friends gave up when I drew 'round'"
[DrawSomething]|17:56 Limax says, "I drew a bunch of circles"
[rant]|17:56 Gunther says, "yes, by virtue of being a save point system it is automatically a pissoff"
[DrawSomething]|17:56 Limax says, "She just didn't see it"
[rant]|17:56 Tale says, "Sure, have a boss battle, and some mooks before it. Place the save point BEFORE the mooks so I have to kill them EVERY BLOODY TIME."
[rant]|17:57 Tale says, "Oh, and give the boss instakill rockets to increase the element of luck."
[ollyprattle]|17:57 Limax asks, "More protein?"
[ollyprattle]|17:57 Olly asks, "That alfalfa sprouts you mean?"
[DustWorld]|17:57 DavidW says, "ah, Wikipedia mostly agrees with me. It's a yellow pea soup beloved by Quebecers: | The most authentic version of Quebec's soupe aux pois use whole yellow peas, with salt pork and herbs for flavour."
[ollyprattle]|17:57 Limax says, "Or other kinds of beans"
[drwho]|17:58 boucher asks, "Voiceover?"
[ollyprattle]|17:58 Olly says, "No, I don't think so."
[lounge]|17:58 Doug goes home.
[drwho]|17:58 Jon says, "added to the show on BBC America"
[ollyprattle]|17:58 Olly says, "Mung bean sprouts are the ones you find in Asian cooking."
[drwho]|17:59 boucher says, "Oh, huh."
[ollyprattle]|17:59 Olly says, "They are nice."
[ollyprattle]|17:59 Limax says, "Ah yes.... I just looked it up"
[drwho]|17:59 Limax asks, "REally???"
[drwho]|17:59 Limax says, "UGH"
[drwho]|17:59 Limax says, "So Netflix has the BBC America feed."
[drwho]|17:59 Limax says, "Stupid"
[ollyprattle]|18:00 Olly says, "I'm also growing some lentil and buckwheat sprouts.  I would have done alfalfa, but the alfalfa seeds were very expensive."
[ollyprattle]|18:00 Limax nods
[WWIII]|18:01 Fang says, "haha"
[WWIII]|18:01 Fang | "The next three to six months are crucial in Syria," one official said.
[drwho]|18:01 Jon says, "once again, torrents are the superior choice"
[ollyprattle]|18:01 Olly says, "I am experimenting with sprouts as a way to have fresh vegetables that don't cost so much."
[DustWorld]|18:01 DavidW says, "I ate three bananas just waiting for the bus home. I didn't have a proper lunch earlier."
[workplace]|18:01 Allen says, "he's complaining that our deep packet firewalls are blocking any post requests with the string 'httpget' in them"
[workplace]|18:01 Allen says, "and this was a nightmare to diagnose since he didn't have shell access"
[ollyprattle]|18:02 Limax says, "Cool"
[workplace]|18:02 Allen says, "news for him: we have no outgoing firewall rules, at all, that drop any packets"
[drwho]|18:03 boucher says, "Looks like they're doing it in Australia too.  Now I see what you mean"
[workplace]|18:03 Allen says, "we have no outgoing firewall at all. Only router based rules that block certain requests (and all http requests are funneled thru a proxy that logs, but never drops)"
[Limax's-Life]|18:04 Limax says, "So I'm off to Disneyland this next week.  Going to be there for a conference, and will only be able to go to the park in the evenings"
[drwho]|18:04 Limax asks, "Not in Britain, though?"
[drwho]|18:04 Olly says, "People in Britain know what Doctor Who is."
[Limax's-Life]|18:04 inky says, "still, woo"
[Limax's-Life]|18:05 Limax says, "Yeah.  I am looking forward to it"
[drwho]|18:05 boucher says, "I guess there's a feeling by some that a cold open, without being sat down and having the plot (or any plot, unrepresentative or not) explained to them will scare off people unfamiliar with the show."
[drwho]|18:06 Limax asks, "By why do that after 48 years and after six years into the new series?"
[people-suk]|18:06 Gunther says, "somewhere, Ballmer is going "why does OUR reality distortion field only work on one guy?""
[drwho]|18:07 Olly says, "I think they are trying to increase their viewership in the US."
[drwho]|18:07 baf says, "Bah. Proper Who starts with electronic strummy noises and a warpy tunnel effects on the screen."
[drwho]|18:07 boucher says, "Stay tuned, coming up next, it's the Evening News.  ...  'When I was a little boy, I wanted to tell people what was happening in the world.  Now I'm grown up, and I *can* tell people what's happening in the world.  I'm a news anchor.  I tell people what's happening in the world.  And that's how I came to be reading...The Evening News!'"
[drwho]|18:07 Limax grumbles
[drwho]|18:07 baf says, "If you don't know what that means, it's intriguing enough to keep watching to see what happens next."
[drwho]|18:08 Olly says (to baf), "Yes."
[drwho]|18:08 Limax says, "Some people need slapping"
[drwho]|18:08 Olly says, "I enjoy watching things I know nothing about."
[lounge]|18:09 Limax says, "Off"
[lounge]|18:09 Limax walks slowly out of the room and into the sunset.
[drwho]|18:10 boucher says, "On a similar note, though...I always found it interesting, the tradition of classic Doctor Who putting the face of The Doctor into the opening sequence."
[drwho]|18:10 boucher says, "But of course, they didn't do that until the second Doctor."
[drwho]|18:10 boucher says, "I can only assume they added the face to try and create a stronger association for Troughton, out of fears that the audience wouldn't accept him."
[drwho]|18:11 boucher says, "And it simply became a thing that was done as time went on"
[jobs]|18:11 Olly says, "There keeps being an ad for a "revolving teacher."  It always makes me smile."
[drwho]|18:11 Olly nods.
[drwho]|18:12 Gunther says, "later, it stopped being a thing"
[drwho]|18:12 boucher says, "And people were very divided on whether its absence from the new series was a good thing or not"
[drwho]|18:12 Olly says, "Now tell us why the Seventh Doctor winks."
[drwho]|18:12 baf says, "But a lot of Americans don't."
[drwho]|18:13 boucher says, "On one hand, it was a bit cheesy...almost as if they thought viewers needed to be handed a picture reference to help them identify The Doctor."
[drwho]|18:13 boucher says, "On the other, it was a unique element, and was incorporated cleverly into the introductory graphics."
[drwho]|18:14 Olly says (to baf), "Don't enjoy watching things they know noting about?  Probably so."
[drwho]|18:15 boucher says, "I think they were getting a bit desperate by Colin Baker's era, so decided to make him smile.  That was the start of a new tradition, in which they tried to infuse some character into the introductory face, as opposed to leaving them looking vaguely frightened or drugged, as had been the case for most previous portraits."
[quotations]|18:17 DavidW says, "heh, ShitMyDadSays: | "No. You don't read news. You read stuff you agree with. Just because somebody's shit smells like yours, doesn't mean it's not still shit.""
[drwho]|18:17 Olly says, "I accept your explanation."
[drwho]|18:18 boucher says, "Pertwee smiled, at least,  Troughton looked a bit surprised.  But Tom Baker and Peter Davison had glassy-eyed stares and slack-jawed vacant expressions that I find a little disturbing."
[rant]|18:20 Tale says, " http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuE7OhoZPYg&feature=related "
[rant]|18:20 Tale says, "ilac"
[drwho]|18:20 Tale says, " http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuE7OhoZPYg&feature=related "
[rant]|18:22 Gunther says, "(which game?)"
[rant]|18:23 Tale says, "Was playing Fear 3. And now I've decided, fuck it."
[rant]|18:23 Ellison says, "that could be said about the entire series, I'd say"
[lounge]|18:24 Ellison arrives from the east.
[lounge]|18:24 Ellison says, "re"
[books]|18:24 baf says, "Finished reading REAMDE"
[books]|18:25 baf says, "This is a book about guns and hackery, but mostly guns. Especially toward the end."
[books]|18:25 inky says, "bummer"
[books]|18:25 baf says, "Yeah."
[books]|18:26 baf asks, "Did Anathem not sell well or something?"
[rant]|18:26 Tale says (to Ellison), "I tend to agree."
[books]|18:26 inky says, "I had this theory that Stephenson is getting more wanna-be macho in his old age, but I haven't actually read the books to prove it"
[lounge]|18:27 Roger is the Samuel L. Jackson of 8 month old wolves.
[lounge]|18:27 Olly says, "Hello, Roger."
[books]|18:27 baf says, "I think I can agree with that. He's always had a wanna-be macho side, mind you. But it's really dominating in REAMDE."
[lounge]|18:27 Roger says, "Hello"
[lounge]|18:27 Tale is fired from breathing.
[lounge]|18:27 * Tale has disconnected.
[lounge]|18:28 Olly says, "You are the Samuel L. Jackson of 8 month old wolves."
[books]|18:28 baf says, "Also, he's making a videogame for sword nerds."
[lounge]|18:28 Roger says, "Indeed"
[books]|18:28 inky says, "yeah"
[lounge]|18:28 Olly says, "Whatever that means."
[books]|18:28 inky says, "though I admit I am kind of interested in that"
[books]|18:28 inky says, "(because I am a wanna-be sword nerd)"
[books]|18:30 Gunther says, "I liked REAMDE"
[lounge]|18:34 jenrexrode has entered the lounge. [ Your score has gone up by 10 points ]
[lounge]|18:34 Olly takes a plastic hamster ball from their pocket, steps into it, and rolls away.
[lounge]|18:34 jenrexrode says, "hi"
[books]|18:34 Ellison says, "when inky grows up, he wants to be the Star Wars kid"
[books]|18:35 lpsmith says, "Please tell me that REAMDE is an intentional takeoff of 'README'"
[books]|18:35 Gunther says, "maybe"
[books]|18:35 Ellison says, "yeah, I totally read that as README the first time"
[books]|18:35 Gunther says, "as you know its german title is VIRUS"
[books]|18:35 Gunther says, "because the word 'virus' never appears in the book"
[books]|18:36 Gunther says, "but there certainly is a REAMDE file"
[lounge]|18:36 Doug has arrived.
[lounge]|18:37 Doug waves.
[lounge]|18:37 jenrexrode says, "hi"
[books]|18:37 baf says, "Yes, REAMDE is an intentional takeoff of README."
[books]|18:37 lpsmith says (to baf), "Thank you."
[books]|18:37 baf says, "On the cover, they even color the letters to make this clear. Like REAmDe."
[books]|18:39 baf says, "And it's specifically mentioned that a character misreads it as README on first seeing it."
[jobs]|18:40 K-Y says, "well, another person has quit"
[jobs]|18:42 K-Y says, "and one of the temps just went on vacation"
[lounge]|18:43 Gunther is a game about well-bred young ladies firing improbable amounts of projectiles at each other for no immediately discernible reason.
[jendoodle]|18:44 jenrexrode says, "dad's on his way"
[jendoodle]|18:45 jenrexrode says, "so I have a couple of hours to work on the guest rooo"
[jendoodle]|18:45 jenrexrode says, "m"
[dinner]|18:46 jenrexrode says, "I better pick a place for dinner with dad"
[jobs]|18:46 K-Y says, "I wonder if this means I now get to work 80 hours an hour"
[jobs]|18:46 K-Y says, "week, too"
[jobs]|18:46 jenrexrode says, "heh"
[dinner]|18:47 jenrexrode says, "when your folks get old and lose their hearing, you keep having to find quiet restaurants to go to, or it's miserable"
[books]|18:53 baf says, "For me, the disappointing thing is that the story builds up all this interesting stuff concerning its fictional MMO: the artistic differences between its designers, the spontaneous factional divisions in the player base. And for a while it looks like that's going to lead somewhere. But it all just gets dropped in favor of hunting terrorists."
[books]|18:54 baf says, "If I try hard, I can almost convince myself that Stephenson is being subtly clever there."
[books]|18:54 maga says (to baf), "Stephenson is always great at buildup, and horrible at delivering on it"
[books]|18:54 McMartin says, "Stephenson is so bad at endings he couldn't acceptably end his *essay collection*"
[books]|18:54 McMartin says, "This isn't snark; he failed to do this right"
[books]|18:54 inky says, "someone who is notoriously bad at endings should release a hardback without a back cover"
[books]|18:54 McMartin says, "It's conceivable he's gotten marginally better at this, but he had a whole lot of ground to make up to even hit 'adequate'"
[books]|18:54 baf says, "This must be why his novels are so long."
[books]|18:54 maga says, "frequently he goes into 'raaar they all fight and the forces of whatever-it-is-I'm-enthused-about triumph, sorta'"
[books]|18:56 maga says, "look! INTERDIMENSIONAL FRENCHMAN! (runs away)"
[jendoodle]|18:56 jenrexrode says, "I left work 2 1/2 early, and took the dog to the vet.  she weighs 10.5 lbs, so she gets more expensive medicine with the extra .5 lb."
[books]|18:56 vimes says, "i always segment his books into the interesting buildup bits and the rest of it, which i need to read so i can complain about it later"
[books]|18:58 maga says, "I suppose this is why he invariably has a character who can embody the Wizard who Did It"
[jendoodle]|18:58 Roger says, "hunh"
[lounge]|19:00 Grocible, being psychic, enters the lounge.
[lounge]|19:00 Grocible says, "hey all"
[lounge]|19:00 borowski says, "Hey Grocible and anyone else I didn't say hi to."
[lounge]|19:00 inky says, "hey it's Grocible"
[photo]|19:01 inky says, "I assume you've seen http://www.gavinrothery.com/my-blog/2012/6/18/shooting-2001.html "
[lounge]|19:02 Grocible says, "It is!"
[jendoodle]|19:03 jenrexrode says, "for dogs 10.1 - 20 lbs - so she'll get a strong dose"
[lounge]|19:04 K-Y's apocalyptic flotsam included the emergence of figures of such dazzling dementia as to momentarily mesmerize even thinking people.
[lounge]|19:04 K-Y says, "re"
[lounge]|19:04 jenrexrode says, "hey"
[photo]|19:05 Grocible says, "that's cool"
[photo]|19:05 Grocible says, "I hadn't"
[photo]|19:05 Grocible says, "I'll email it to my cousin in law, who's writing a book about the making of 2001"
[jendoodle]|19:05 Roger says, "I guess they have to draw the line somewhere"
[jendoodle]|19:05 jenrexrode says, "yeah"
[photo]|19:05 jenrexrode says, "now I have to share this"
[photo]|19:05 Grocible says, "I've seen about half these photos"
[photo]|19:06 Grocible says, "pretty cool"
[science]|19:06 DorianX says, "so there's this newly discovered old paper on kinky penguin sex"
[science]|19:06 DorianX says, "and it talks about penguin sodomy"
[science]|19:07 DorianX says, "I am confused. I thought birds could not do that"
[photo]|19:07 Grocible says, "wonder where he got 'em"
[photo]|19:08 K-Y says, "one of those chain emails with 100 or so photos attached"
[science]|19:08 DavidW says, "I've never really learned what a cloaca is."
[photo]|19:09 Grocible says, "4 of the shots are screengrabs"
[photo]|19:09 jenrexrode says, "cool it let me choose any of the 34 for my thumbnail"
[science]|19:10 Roger says, "Maybe they mean hot emperor-on-emperor action"
[science]|19:10 DavidW says, "I figure someday, some genius will design a pop bottle cap that acts like a cloaca but won't tell anyone for a year then let everyone know, and that's how I'll find out what one is like."
[photo]|19:12 Grocible says, "it's always funny to me when I see the film, as certain bits I think of in black and white"
[photo]|19:12 Grocible says, "because i read a book about it that included B&W shots only, and read it as a kid"
[photo]|19:12 Grocible says, "before I'd seen the film"
[photo]|19:12 Roger says, "Hunh"
[photo]|19:12 Grocible says, "so I'm watching it last night and they show the interior of a spaceship and I'm like yow! Yellow!"
[photo]|19:13 jenrexrode says, "this one with the 'guy' in suspended animation, while they discuss the scene beneath him, it's freaking me out"
[kitties]|19:13 Allen says, "lazy houndcat was lying down. I put food in front of him. He cried plaintively"
[kitties]|19:13 Allen says, "I slid it over close to him, and he started eating, refusing to even stand up"
[kitties]|19:13 Roger says, "Hahaha"
[kitties]|19:13 jenrexrode says, "heh"
[kitties]|19:13 Roger says, "You gotta video that"
[kitties]|19:14 jenrexrode says, "dexter likes to have a long drink while lying down"
[photo]|19:14 Grocible asks, "is it?"
[photo]|19:14 jenrexrode says, "I keep thinking they should let him out if they're not filming"
[photo]|19:15 Grocible says, "they had the starchild at theexhibition"
[photo]|19:15 Grocible says, "it looked bad"
[science]|19:15 maga says (to DX), "'sodomy' is not historically a precise term"
[photo]|19:15 Grocible says, "it was like dangling from the ceiling by fishing line or something"
[photo]|19:15 jenrexrode says, "haha"
[science]|19:15 vimes says, "'sex we don't approve of'"
[photo]|19:15 Grocible says, "Kubrick's brother in law wasn't very happy about that"
[science]|19:16 maga says, "in effect, yeah"
[photo]|19:16 Grocible says, ""I don't like them hanging the starchild like that""
[science]|19:16 Roger says, "We had one really good example but then we destroyed it"
[photo]|19:16 jenrexrode asks, "so he should otherwise defy gravity?"
[photo]|19:16 jenrexrode says, "or just flop on the floor"
[photo]|19:17 Grocible says, "they should've had him in a case or something"
[photo]|19:17 Grocible says, "backlit"
[photo]|19:17 jenrexrode says, "ah"
[workplace]|19:17 Allen says, "wtf"
[workplace]|19:17 Allen | p.s.  how come every time you login to this server, it creates 3-4 ssh connections for agarvin?  Just curious, as I have not seen that before.
[photo]|19:17 jenrexrode says, "how about suspended in geltin"
[photo]|19:17 jenrexrode says, "er gelatin"
[photo]|19:17 Grocible says, "they had two Moonwatcher masks"
[workplace]|19:17 Allen says, "I look in the web folder, and he's doing a process scrape with ps"
[photo]|19:18 Grocible says, "I think the German installation had the starchild in a glass case"
[workplace]|19:19 Allen asks, "is he trying to prove to everyone how smart he is, that he can get this info?"
[workplace]|19:19 Roger says, "Maybe he's just a curious guy"
[smoochies]|19:19 Roger says, "Protip:"
[smoochies]|19:20 (from vimes) Roger says, "smoochies are awesome"
[smoochies]|19:20 (from vimes) vimes says, "thanks! that's a great tip!"
[smoochies]|19:20 Roger says, "If you significant other complains about how fat their toes are"
[smoochies]|19:20 Roger says, "Saying "Hey, at least you CAN see your toes!" does not actually help."
[smoochies]|19:20 inky says, "ha ha"
[smoochies]|19:21 jenrexrode says, "no, bring her a tub of cold water"
[smoochies]|19:21 inky asks, "is fat toes a thing?"
[smoochies]|19:21 inky says, "I don't think I have ever heard someone complain about their toes before"
[smoochies]|19:21 DavidW says, "Might be. Women's shoes can be evil."
[smoochies]|19:21 jenrexrode says, "only if I have an allergic reaction"
[smoochies]|19:21 inky asks, "you're allergic to toes?"
[smoochies]|19:22 lpsmith asks, "Is this sa general water retention thing?"
[smoochies]|19:22 jenrexrode says, "no, but they would swell up if I ate something I was allergic to"
[smoochies]|19:22 Roger says, "This person, whom I'm not naming out of deference, might be a pregnant person."
[smoochies]|19:22 jenrexrode says, "heh"
[smoochies]|19:22 lpsmith asks, "Don't be coy, it's you, isn't it?"
[photo]|19:23 Grocible says, "the centrifuge was such an awesome set"
[photo]|19:23 jenrexrode says, "and excercise machine"
[photo]|19:23 Grocible says, "for expensive astrohamsters"
[photo]|19:23 jenrexrode says, "-c"
[photo]|19:23 Grocible says, "there was this cool vellum planning diagram on display"
[photo]|19:23 Grocible says, "with two layers of the halves"
[lounge]|19:23 jenrexrode I was kind of thinking that would be more fun than a treadmill
[smoochies]|19:24 Roger says, "Hey I can see my toes!  Mirrors count, right."
[smoochies]|19:24 jenrexrode says, "objects in mirror are fatter than they appear"
[smoochies]|19:25 inky says, "ha ha"
[photo]|19:29 Grocible says, "it would be totally cool"
[photo]|19:29 Grocible says, "albeit a bit dangerous"
[photo]|19:31 jenrexrode | http://wheresmysammich.com/picture/14810/i-am-your-father/
[photo]|19:32 inky says, "ha ha"
[photo]|19:35 Grocible says, "heh"
[gender]|19:36 Allen | Four states -- Delaware, Iowa, Mississippi and Vermont -- have never had a woman serving in their congressional delegation.
[gender]|19:36 inky says, "wow"
[lounge]|19:38 jenrexrode says, "oops, I just schlepped this laptop into a room where I have another one waiting - oh well"
[lounge]|19:40 Rob comes right on in.
Recapped 1000 of 4225 lines from recent channels.
Current time: Friday, 22 Jun 2012, 07:40:47 PM EDT
There is one new message on #alt/obits.
There is one new message on #games/roleplaying/rpg.
There is one new message on #media/movies/starwars.
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Rob says, "zbzbrb"
McMartin says, "lollo"
[gender] Rob says, "iowa and vermont, huh"
[gender] maga says, "hmm"
[gender] Matthew says, "Huh, that's really interesting."
Grocible says, "robble"
[gender] maga asks, "given how few women there have been in congress generally, does that say anything about those particular states?"
[gender] Matthew says (to maga), "I don't think it does..."
[gender] McMartin says, "That's a pretty broad cross-section, actually, so the closest you can get is 'their populations are kind of small'"
[gender] maga says, "that's more or less what I'd assume, yeah"
[gender] maga says, "plus they're not hugely populated states so they've had fewer chances"
[cyoa] Doug says, "I read/played Bee today.  Interesting structure!  I am torn between wondering what content I missed and not really wanting to play through the whole thing again."
[gender] McMartin says, "Yeah, I think that's the closest bit. California and New York send more people over so there's a larger chance of any given subgroup being represented"
[cabal] Grocible says, "did you hear my bragging rob"
[gender] Rob says, "I dunno, if even wyoming has gotten on board"
[cabal] Rob says, "no, do brag"
[cyoa] maga says, "from talking to Emily, it's rather more variable than it might appear"
[gender] Roger says, "It'd be a good exam question for statistical relevance, sampling, etc"
[gender] McMartin says, "Wyoming was *first*, IIRC."
Recapping 29 of 29 lines from private/cabal:
[cabal]/001 Hugo says (to Grocible), "I'm sure you came up with something witty and apropos!"
[cabal]/002 Grocible says, "ah well. No"
[cabal]/003 Grocible asks, "I said "would you like some more water, christiane?"
[cabal]/004 Grocible says, "I did manage some chitchat. But I found her a bit daunting"
[cabal]/005 inky says, "hmm"
[cabal]/006 inky says, "it seems like it must be harder to talk to the spouse of somebody famous than to talk to the famous person"
[cabal]/007 inky says, "since the famous person is probably used to talking to people"
[cabal]/008 Grocible says, "my cousin in law was thrilled as he's writing a new book about 2001"
[cabal]/009 Hugo says, "Lovely people are boring."
[cabal]/010 Hugo says, "But lovely."
[cabal]/011 Grocible says, "so he made some excellent contacts"
[cabal]/012 Grocible says, "I'm sure they have their dark sides"
[cabal]/013 Grocible says, "I just didn't see 'em"
[cabal]/014 Grocible says, "alSo Stanley Kubrick was infamous for not giving inteviews"
[cabal]/015 Grocible says, "Much like Hugo"
[cabal]/016 inky says, "Hugo gave an interview to Adam just the other day"
[cabal]/017 Grocible asks, "why?"
[cabal]/018 inky says, "I assume there was some kind of US/Canada trade agreement involving pizza"
[cabal]/019 katre says, "I was just going to snark about this work email thread about cryo-preservation (it boils down to "whole-body or just the head?")"
[cabal]/020 katre says, "then I noticed that Jon is about half the conversation"
[cabal]/021 inky says, "ha ha ha"
[cabal]/022 Hugo says, "Wait! So which is it?!"
[cabal]/023 Iain says, "It's just the body, no head."
[cabal]/024 inky says, "ha ha"
[cabal]/025 inky says, "in the future they will have better cyber-brains"
[cabal]/026 inky says, "but elbows will be really valuable"
[cabal]/027 katre says (to iain), "there's an insnaity wolf meme for that option, yes"
[cabal]/028 Grocible says, "did you hear my bragging rob"
[cabal]/029 Rob says, "no, do brag"
Recapped 29 of 29 lines from private/cabal.
[cyoa] maga says, "and it's much less annoying to replay now that the action-refresh thing has been taken out"
[cyoa] Doug says, "given how much I saw repeated passages on one playthrough, I'm not sure variability is enough"
[cabal] Grocible says, "well to be fair I'd like to say I'm trying to convey my sense of wonder and luck"
[cyoa] maga says, "well, yes, there's the plotty stuff and the less-plotty stuff"
[cabal] Grocible says, "but last night I saw 2001 in Amsterdam, accompanied by a live orchestra and choir"
jenrexrode says, "hi"
[cabal] Grocible says, "and beforehand I had dinner with the Kubrick clan"
[cabal] Rob says, "excellent"
jenrexrode says, "hm, I guess I can take my hat off"
[cabal] Rob asks, "wife? daughters?"
[cabal] Grocible says, "an amazing experience"
Rob says, "the deuce you say"
[cabal] Grocible says, "yeah I sat next to Christiane. Katharina was there"
[cyoa] maga says, "I think that to some extent the player preference bias narrows variability"
[cabal] Rob says, "that's amazing"
[cabal] Grocible says, "but Anya is dead and Vivian has become a Scientologist"
[cabal] Rob says, "2001 live with orchestra and live kubricks"
[cyoa] maga says, "(like, there are threads that emerge where you're mean to your sister, but I rather like her so I never end up getting those)"
[cabal] Grocible says, "technically Katharina's his step-daughter"
[cyoa] Doug says, "maybe in a week or so I'll feel more like replaying it"
[gender] Allen | Since 1917, when Representative Jeannette Rankin of Montana became the first woman to serve in Congress, a total of 277 women have served as U.S. Representatives or Senators.
[cabal] Grocible says, "and of course Jan his brother in law"
[cyoa] maga says, "I'd definitely replay at least once"
[cabal] Grocible says, "and their PAs, staff, etc"
[cabal] Grocible says, "but really nice people with amazing stories"
[cyoa] Doug says, "or maybe I'll just read a bunch of reviews."
[gender] Allen says, "currently 73"
[cabal] Rob says, "I feel like I've read something somewhere trying to parse out how women are portrayed in his movies versus how he was in his private life surrounded by women"
[gender] inky says, "wait asec"
[gender] inky says, "women didn't get the vote until 1920, I thought"
[cyoa] maga asks, "are there reviews in places other than IFDB?"
[TV] Roger says, "woo new futurama"
[gender] Rob says, "wow, montana"
[gender] Rob says, "go big sky"
[cyoa] Doug asks, "how long was she working on it?  I guess this isn't the thing that was teased with that cat poster thing?"
[gender] inky asks, "or did they have the vote in some states before that?"
[gender] maga says (to inky), "nationally, sure"
[cabal] Grocible says, "hmm"
[cabal] Grocible says, "yea"
[gender] Rob says, "well it's also true that it was an all-male electorate who gave women the right to vote"
[cabal] Grocible says, "anyway. I had no idea what to say to Christiane"
[gender] Rob says, "although there were a bunch of ladies with rolling pins and a lot of organization backing them up"
[cabal] Grocible says, "other than, "more water, Christiane?""
[cabal] Rob says, "how dashing"
[cabal] Grocible says, "and then i felt a bit like that girl in Brazil in the dinner scene"
jenrexrode says, "my sun hat"
[cabal] Grocible asks, "Salt?"
[gender] maga says (to Rob), "it was Montana in 1917. they'd do *anything* to get *any* women to move there"
[cabal] Rob says, "ha"
[cyoa] Doug | http://emshort.wordpress.com/category/interactive-fiction/teasers/
[gender] inky says, "ha ha"
[gender] Rob says, "or move out of there to washington way"
[cabal] Grocible says, "my cousin in law was thrilled"
[cabal] Grocible says, "I think the dynamics between him and me have shifted permanently"
Rob says, "were you out walking or outside painting"
[cabal] Rob says, "mmm"
[gender] Allen says, "currently, Iowa is #30 in population, mississippi is #31, delaware is #45 and vermont #48"
[cabal] Grocible says, "they damn well better, me engineering him dinner with the kubricken!"
[gender] Allen says, "so, delaware and mississippi are the probable outliers"
[cabal] Rob says, "it's amazing what pursuing one's interests can lead to"
[cabal] Grocible says, "then today I go to work and get more crushingly bad news. Annual revie"
[cabal] Grocible says, "w"
[cabal] Grocible says, "sigh"
[cabal] inky asks, "your annual review didn't go well?"
[cabal] Rob asks, "why will it be crushingly bad?"
[gender] Allen says, "oops iowa and MS"
[cabal] Grocible says, "inky: nope"
[gender] Allen says, "Iowa has 5 congressmen, mississippi 4"
[cabal] Rob says, "'attitude needs work'"
[cyoa] maga asks, "er?"
[jendoodle] jenrexrode says, "already bored cleaning this room"
[cabal] Rob says, "'is very bright but doesn't seem to apply himself'"
[cabal] Grocible asks, "that's from your school report card? Or mine?"
[jendoodle] Rob says, "the trick is to wave your hands and pronounce 'this room shall be *clean*!' and then wait a day"
[gender] McMartin says, "Oh right. Wyoming was the first for women's suffrage, wasn't it, not women in Congress"
[cabal] inky says, "runs with scissors"
[jendoodle] jenrexrode says, "but my dad has been on the road since 5pm"
[cabal] Rob says, "I applied myself ok but was easily distracted by amusements"
[cabal] Rob says, "much like today"
[jendoodle] Rob asks, "is he visiting?"
[gender] Allen says, "oh the first woman in Congress, the Montana one, was elected after her husband, a representative, died, and only served one term"
[jendoodle] jenrexrode says, "yeah"
[jendoodle] Rob asks, "is he there?"
[gender] Allen says, "she voted against declaring war on germany. That's a big mistake."
[gender] Allen says, "you should never vote against getting into a war in the US. It's political death"
[gender] Rob says, "what was her name"
[jendoodle] jenrexrode says, "no he's a couple of hours away"
[cabal] Grocible says, "hm email from Jan"
[gender] Allen says, "Lincoln did it, and it cost him his next election"
[jendoodle] jenrexrode says, "or maybe just 90 mins, it's later than I thought"
[gender] Rob says, "well ok so you make the declaration and then start by cleaning up the smallest thing you have to move in the room and see if you can build a momentum up to the rest"
[jendoodle] jenrexrode says, "must hide Apple //"
[gender] Rob says, "yay apple //"
[gender] Rob asks, "why hide it?"
[cabal] Grocible says, "aw apologising for the ticketing problems"
[gender] Rob says, "put it on a showy pedestal"
[cyoa] Doug says, "maybe I misunderstand what 'teaser' means"
[jendoodle] jenrexrode says, "one is in its original box"
[cabal] Grocible says, "man. we got free dinner! No apologies needed here!"
[gender] Allen says, "there was one famous politician who voted against the war of 1812, and lost his next election in a landslide"
[gender] Rob says, "ow"
[gender] Allen says, "later, after about 15 years, he made it back to congress"
[cabal] Grocible says, "just for the halibut"
[gender] Rob says, "I've been trying to start understanding the war of 1812 lately"
[gender] Allen says, "someone asked him if he would be voting against any future wars, and he replied back that no, now is the firm support of war, pestilence, and famine"
[gender] Rob says, "since I realized it was actually kind of important and I knew I never understood that much about it"
[gender] inky says (to Allen), "hee hee"
[books] Rob says, "I watched a recent movie adaptation of nicholas nickleby recently"
[gender] Allen says, "it was a sucky war"
[gender] baf says, "Schools in America don't like to talk about it really."
[books] Rob says, "I have a complete Dickens volume on my kindle"
[gender] baf says, "Except for the star spangled banner part."
[gender] Allen says, "no, that's the worst part"
[books] Rob says, "which unfortunately is still munged and marred by the upper corner of the e-ink screen going flooey"
[gender] maga says, "nobody really gained anything, except that America got Andrew Jackson"
[books] Rob says, "but I was waiting for a flat tire to be replaced today and raised the font size enough that I could still read with it, and read the first bits of the novel while waitin"
[gender] Allen says, "imagine if we had had a really singable anthem. No one can sing that damn thing. Not that the tune is Key's fault. But he also wrote overwrought lyrics"
[cabal] Grocible says, ";the weirdest thing was it was a modestly posh restaurant"
[gender] Allen says, "Battle Hymn of the Republic ought to be our national anthem"
[cabal] Grocible says, "with good food"
[cabal] Grocible says, "but they served frites with everything. I guess because they were, you know, Dutch"
[cabal] Grocible says, "and for dessert I had very good tiramisu"
[gender] Allen says, "cause anyone can sing that. And it's a really great song. You can't help but like pump your fist while singing it"
[gender] Rob starts humming it
[cabal] Grocible says, "but there were "chocolate bars" on the  menu"
[gender] baf says, "Michael Moore suggested We Will Rock You."
[cabal] Grocible says, "and a couple people ordered those"
[gender] Allen says, "and it's nice and violent and righteous"
[gender] Rob says, "it is quite a vivifying tune if you're inclined to get into it"
[cabal] Grocible says, "and they got, well, Ritter Sports. On a plate."
[cabal] Grocible says, "wtf"
[gender] Rob says, "well said"
Recapping 81 of 81 lines from private/cabal:
[cabal]/001 Hugo says (to Grocible), "I'm sure you came up with something witty and apropos!"
[cabal]/002 Grocible says, "ah well. No"
[cabal]/003 Grocible asks, "I said "would you like some more water, christiane?"
[cabal]/004 Grocible says, "I did manage some chitchat. But I found her a bit daunting"
[cabal]/005 inky says, "hmm"
[cabal]/006 inky says, "it seems like it must be harder to talk to the spouse of somebody famous than to talk to the famous person"
[cabal]/007 inky says, "since the famous person is probably used to talking to people"
[cabal]/008 Grocible says, "my cousin in law was thrilled as he's writing a new book about 2001"
[cabal]/009 Hugo says, "Lovely people are boring."
[cabal]/010 Hugo says, "But lovely."
[cabal]/011 Grocible says, "so he made some excellent contacts"
[cabal]/012 Grocible says, "I'm sure they have their dark sides"
[cabal]/013 Grocible says, "I just didn't see 'em"
[cabal]/014 Grocible says, "alSo Stanley Kubrick was infamous for not giving inteviews"
[cabal]/015 Grocible says, "Much like Hugo"
[cabal]/016 inky says, "Hugo gave an interview to Adam just the other day"
[cabal]/017 Grocible asks, "why?"
[cabal]/018 inky says, "I assume there was some kind of US/Canada trade agreement involving pizza"
[cabal]/019 katre says, "I was just going to snark about this work email thread about cryo-preservation (it boils down to "whole-body or just the head?")"
[cabal]/020 katre says, "then I noticed that Jon is about half the conversation"
[cabal]/021 inky says, "ha ha ha"
[cabal]/022 Hugo says, "Wait! So which is it?!"
[cabal]/023 Iain says, "It's just the body, no head."
[cabal]/024 inky says, "ha ha"
[cabal]/025 inky says, "in the future they will have better cyber-brains"
[cabal]/026 inky says, "but elbows will be really valuable"
[cabal]/027 katre says (to iain), "there's an insnaity wolf meme for that option, yes"
[cabal]/028 Grocible says, "did you hear my bragging rob"
[cabal]/029 Rob says, "no, do brag"
[cabal]/030 Grocible says, "well to be fair I'd like to say I'm trying to convey my sense of wonder and luck"
[cabal]/031 Grocible says, "but last night I saw 2001 in Amsterdam, accompanied by a live orchestra and choir"
[cabal]/032 Grocible says, "and beforehand I had dinner with the Kubrick clan"
[cabal]/033 Rob says, "excellent"
[cabal]/034 Rob asks, "wife? daughters?"
[cabal]/035 Grocible says, "an amazing experience"
[cabal]/036 Grocible says, "yeah I sat next to Christiane. Katharina was there"
[cabal]/037 Rob says, "that's amazing"
[cabal]/038 Grocible says, "but Anya is dead and Vivian has become a Scientologist"
[cabal]/039 Rob says, "2001 live with orchestra and live kubricks"
[cabal]/040 Grocible says, "technically Katharina's his step-daughter"
[cabal]/041 Grocible says, "and of course Jan his brother in law"
[cabal]/042 Grocible says, "and their PAs, staff, etc"
[cabal]/043 Grocible says, "but really nice people with amazing stories"
[cabal]/044 Rob says, "I feel like I've read something somewhere trying to parse out how women are portrayed in his movies versus how he was in his private life surrounded by women"
[cabal]/045 Grocible says, "hmm"
[cabal]/046 Grocible says, "yea"
[cabal]/047 Grocible says, "anyway. I had no idea what to say to Christiane"
[cabal]/048 Grocible says, "other than, "more water, Christiane?""
[cabal]/049 Rob says, "how dashing"
[cabal]/050 Grocible says, "and then i felt a bit like that girl in Brazil in the dinner scene"
[cabal]/051 Grocible asks, "Salt?"
[cabal]/052 Rob says, "ha"
[cabal]/053 Grocible says, "my cousin in law was thrilled"
[cabal]/054 Grocible says, "I think the dynamics between him and me have shifted permanently"
[cabal]/055 Rob says, "mmm"
[cabal]/056 Grocible says, "they damn well better, me engineering him dinner with the kubricken!"
[cabal]/057 Rob says, "it's amazing what pursuing one's interests can lead to"
[cabal]/058 Grocible says, "then today I go to work and get more crushingly bad news. Annual revie"
[cabal]/059 Grocible says, "w"
[cabal]/060 Grocible says, "sigh"
[cabal]/061 inky asks, "your annual review didn't go well?"
[cabal]/062 Rob asks, "why will it be crushingly bad?"
[cabal]/063 Grocible says, "inky: nope"
[cabal]/064 Rob says, "'attitude needs work'"
[cabal]/065 Rob says, "'is very bright but doesn't seem to apply himself'"
[cabal]/066 Grocible asks, "that's from your school report card? Or mine?"
[cabal]/067 inky says, "runs with scissors"
[cabal]/068 Rob says, "I applied myself ok but was easily distracted by amusements"
[cabal]/069 Rob says, "much like today"
[cabal]/070 Grocible says, "hm email from Jan"
[cabal]/071 Grocible says, "aw apologising for the ticketing problems"
[cabal]/072 Grocible says, "man. we got free dinner! No apologies needed here!"
[cabal]/073 Grocible says, "just for the halibut"
[cabal]/074 Grocible says, ";the weirdest thing was it was a modestly posh restaurant"
[cabal]/075 Grocible says, "with good food"
[cabal]/076 Grocible says, "but they served frites with everything. I guess because they were, you know, Dutch"
[cabal]/077 Grocible says, "and for dessert I had very good tiramisu"
[cabal]/078 Grocible says, "but there were "chocolate bars" on the  menu"
[cabal]/079 Grocible says, "and a couple people ordered those"
[cabal]/080 Grocible says, "and they got, well, Ritter Sports. On a plate."
[cabal]/081 Grocible says, "wtf"
Recapped 81 of 81 lines from private/cabal.
[gender] baf says, "I guess the problem with Battle Hymn is that the South would never accept it."
[gender] Allen asks (of Rob), "do you know the song that inspired it?"
[gender] Allen says, "this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSSn3NddwFQ "
[books] jenrexrode asks, "can it be saved?"
[gender] Rob asks, "some old hymn?"
[gender] Allen says, "oh no"
[books] Rob says, "I could send it in but they'd send me a replacement new one, and I have formed an emotional attachment to this one"
[gender] Allen says, "its anonymous lyrics were really popular among union soldiers in the civil war"
[books] Rob says, "also they'd send me a different model"
[gender] Allen says, "whats-her-name herd it and rewrote the lyrics but used the same tune"
[books] Rob says, "I had it in a box ready to be sent back this week but finally decided I was going to hang onto it until I could afford to buy a new kindle"
[books] Rob says, "and snatched it out of the box and it sighed happily"
[gender] maga says, "as an old pinko I am contractually obliged to prefer This Land Is Your Land"
[books] jenrexrode says, "wow"
[gender] baf asks, "Wait, are you trying to say that the 'Mary Ann McCarthy, she went out to dig some clams' version is the original?"
[gender] Rob says, "I'm trying to figure out how This Land Is Your Land would sound at the olympics"
[gender] maga says, "and everyone would be obliged to assume an Okie burr and have a cigarette dangling out of their mouth while singing it"
[gender] Rob says, "the other candidate is irving berlin's God Bless America"
[books] jenrexrode says, "I guess you can be a character in my book that's not based on any person"
[gender] Allen says, "there are a bunch of variants to John Brown's Body, some of them really violent and macabre"
[gender] Rob says, "which is the only one of these songs I can actually remember the words to"
Recapping 58 of 58 lines from media/books/books:
[books]/001 inky blinks
[books]/002 Jota says (to inky), "You must be a fast reader."
[books]/003 inky says, "hee hee"
[books]/004 Tale | Actually, my view of this book was kind of distorted by this man I used to work with at this coffee shop.
[books]/005 boucher says, "Did he wave his hand in front of the page?  Maybe he held a magnifying glass in the way."
[books]/006 Tale asks, "Can I stab over the net yet?"
[books]/007 boucher says, "Everything else is details.  What kind of view?  'Of this book.'  Distorted how?  'By this man.'  What man?  'This man I used to work with.'  Work with where?  'At this coffee shop.'"
[books]/008 boucher says, "And ilac"
[books]/009 olethros says, "that is so sad"
[books]/010 olethros says, "manchester library is pulping books"
[books]/011 olethros says, "I had spent great afternoons in that library"
[books]/012 olethros says, "once even finding and enjoying an ambroce bierce short story collection in their rare books catalogue. Oh the eldritch mysteries!"
[books]/013 baf says, "Finished reading REAMDE"
[books]/014 baf says, "This is a book about guns and hackery, but mostly guns. Especially toward the end."
[books]/015 inky says, "bummer"
[books]/016 baf says, "Yeah."
[books]/017 baf asks, "Did Anathem not sell well or something?"
[books]/018 inky says, "I had this theory that Stephenson is getting more wanna-be macho in his old age, but I haven't actually read the books to prove it"
[books]/019 baf says, "I think I can agree with that. He's always had a wanna-be macho side, mind you. But it's really dominating in REAMDE."
[books]/020 baf says, "Also, he's making a videogame for sword nerds."
[books]/021 inky says, "yeah"
[books]/022 inky says, "though I admit I am kind of interested in that"
[books]/023 inky says, "(because I am a wanna-be sword nerd)"
[books]/024 Gunther says, "I liked REAMDE"
[books]/025 Ellison says, "when inky grows up, he wants to be the Star Wars kid"
[books]/026 lpsmith says, "Please tell me that REAMDE is an intentional takeoff of 'README'"
[books]/027 Gunther says, "maybe"
[books]/028 Ellison says, "yeah, I totally read that as README the first time"
[books]/029 Gunther says, "as you know its german title is VIRUS"
[books]/030 Gunther says, "because the word 'virus' never appears in the book"
[books]/031 Gunther says, "but there certainly is a REAMDE file"
[books]/032 baf says, "Yes, REAMDE is an intentional takeoff of README."
[books]/033 lpsmith says (to baf), "Thank you."
[books]/034 baf says, "On the cover, they even color the letters to make this clear. Like REAmDe."
[books]/035 baf says, "And it's specifically mentioned that a character misreads it as README on first seeing it."
[books]/036 baf says, "For me, the disappointing thing is that the story builds up all this interesting stuff concerning its fictional MMO: the artistic differences between its designers, the spontaneous factional divisions in the player base. And for a while it looks like that's going to lead somewhere. But it all just gets dropped in favor of hunting terrorists."
[books]/037 baf says, "If I try hard, I can almost convince myself that Stephenson is being subtly clever there."
[books]/038 maga says (to baf), "Stephenson is always great at buildup, and horrible at delivering on it"
[books]/039 McMartin says, "Stephenson is so bad at endings he couldn't acceptably end his *essay collection*"
[books]/040 McMartin says, "This isn't snark; he failed to do this right"
[books]/041 inky says, "someone who is notoriously bad at endings should release a hardback without a back cover"
[books]/042 McMartin says, "It's conceivable he's gotten marginally better at this, but he had a whole lot of ground to make up to even hit 'adequate'"
[books]/043 baf says, "This must be why his novels are so long."
[books]/044 maga says, "frequently he goes into 'raaar they all fight and the forces of whatever-it-is-I'm-enthused-about triumph, sorta'"
[books]/045 maga says, "look! INTERDIMENSIONAL FRENCHMAN! (runs away)"
[books]/046 vimes says, "i always segment his books into the interesting buildup bits and the rest of it, which i need to read so i can complain about it later"
[books]/047 maga says, "I suppose this is why he invariably has a character who can embody the Wizard who Did It"
[books]/048 Rob says, "I watched a recent movie adaptation of nicholas nickleby recently"
[books]/049 Rob says, "I have a complete Dickens volume on my kindle"
[books]/050 Rob says, "which unfortunately is still munged and marred by the upper corner of the e-ink screen going flooey"
[books]/051 Rob says, "but I was waiting for a flat tire to be replaced today and raised the font size enough that I could still read with it, and read the first bits of the novel while waitin"
[books]/052 jenrexrode asks, "can it be saved?"
[books]/053 Rob says, "I could send it in but they'd send me a replacement new one, and I have formed an emotional attachment to this one"
[books]/054 Rob says, "also they'd send me a different model"
[books]/055 Rob says, "I had it in a box ready to be sent back this week but finally decided I was going to hang onto it until I could afford to buy a new kindle"
[books]/056 Rob says, "and snatched it out of the box and it sighed happily"
[books]/057 jenrexrode says, "wow"
[books]/058 jenrexrode says, "I guess you can be a character in my book that's not based on any person"
Recapped 58 of 58 lines from media/books/books.
[gender] Jota says, "If we wanted to confuse everyone and make other countries hate us, we could go for My Country 'Tis Of Thee."
[books] Rob asks, "what book your book?"
[books] jenrexrode says, "because this sounds like a nice scene"
[books] jenrexrode says, "I need about 1000 of these scenes to make a book"
[books] jenrexrode says, "I think I have 2 bow"
[gender] McMartin says, "I think if we were to replace the anthem we would need to do so with an *entirely different* drinking song."
[books] jenrexrode says, "er now"
[gender] maga says (to Jota), "well, it's traditional for the central theme of a national anthem to be 'fuck you, other countries'"
[books] Rob says, "when you're writing a book you form different people you know into composite characters"
Grocible says, " http://www.guardian.co.uk/travel/2012/jun/22/volcano-tour-iceland-interior #"
[gender] Allen says, "To anacreon in heaven wasn't really a drinking song"
[gender] McMartin says, "Also, I think the Marseilleises which I can't spell right now has the best 'fuck you everyone' subtheme."
[books] jenrexrode says, "yeah, moosh them all into a couple of charaacters who have to interact"
[books] Rob says, "grabbing this from that and that from him and yeah that's the story I wanna tell mmhmm and so forth"
[gender] McMartin says, "The ground will run red with the blood of the unclean, etc."
[books] Rob says, "looking for characters who spontaneously talk to each other if you imagine them in a room together"
[gender] Rob asks, "Anacreon?"
[books] jenrexrode says, "998 to go"
[gender] Allen says, "it was one of those club songs of some 18c british club"
[gender] Allen says, "there were a bunch of them... all with crazy dense classical referneces"
[gender] Allen says, "I have an mp3 around here.."
[books] jenrexrode says, "or maybe just need 256, who knows"
[books] jenrexrode says, "but another is a story from Linda"
[gender] Allen | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOloIX-1kaM
[gender] Allen says, "it's the same version as my mp3"
[gender] Allen says, "weird, it's silent after the 1st minute"
[gender] baf says, "Laurie Anderson had this bit about how she liked the Star Spangled Banner better than other national anthems because most anthems are all like 'Our country's great! We're number one!' and the Star Spangled Banner is more 'Hey, do you see anything over there? It's really hard to see because of all the fire. Is that a flag?'"
[gender] Ellison says, "hehe"
[gender] Ellison says, "er, heh"
[gender] Allen says, "but you gotta admit Deutscheland Deutscheland Uber Alles is a really great tune"
[gender] Ellison says, "(that first one was a typo)"
[gender] maga says (to baf), "the basic theme *is* pretty much 'shit, we're still an actual independent country? cool'"
[videogames] Doug asks, "anyoe played Quantum Conundrum yet?"
[gender] Allen says, "hey, cool, Nazis had *two* national anthems"
[gender] Allen says, "this is the other: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horst-Wessel-Lied "
[gender] Allen |     Clear the streets for the brown battalions, / Clear the streets for the stormtrooper! / Millions are looking upon the swastika full of hope, / The day of freedom and of bread dawns!
[gender] baf says, "The Horst Wessel Lied is familiar to our generation as the Wolfenstein  3D theme"
[gender] Allen says, "wow, and a Vichy french version:"
[gender] Allen |     We shall smite the Jews and the Marxists, / We shall avenge our brothers killed by them, / So that the National Socialist ideal / Should one day be proud and victorious
[gender] Allen says, "the Vichy's outnazied the nazis"
[gender] baf says, "I guess you counldn't go promising them bread."
jenrexrode says, "argh, now I remember why I have a mouse, I keep touching the touch pad while typing"
[Austin] jenrexrode says, "I need to figure out if there's parking near Hoffbrau, if it's still open"
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Rob says, "blrtgg"
[Austin] Rob says, "where's that"
[Austin] Allen asks, "hoffbrau, the chain?"
[Austin] jenrexrode says, "across from Katz's"
[Austin] Rob says, "wah place formerly known as katz's"
[Austin] jenrexrode says, "yeah"
[Austin] Allen asks, "what no more Katz's????"
[Austin] Rob says, "yeah it got forced out by some landlord who didn't give a damn"
[Austin] Allen says, "oh man"
[Austin] Rob says, "I went during its last week and the waitstaff were all morbid"
[Austin] jenrexrode says, "yeah, but I think Katz owned it, and sold it to spend money on other (failed) ventures"
[Austin] jenrexrode says, "and leased back from the buyer"
[books] Rob says, "just start a file folder and put text file scraps in there until you have a bunch"
[Austin] jenrexrode says, "but every time I get near there, I get in this zone of parking meters"
[TV] DorianX says, "wish I knew why I don't like this show"
[books] jenrexrode says, "yeah, good old brain isn't trusty enough"
[Austin] Rob says, "it's still weird to think of an austin without katz's"
[TV] DorianX says, "(Continuum)"
[Austin] Rob says, "it never closes! until it did. pfth"
[Austin] Allen says, "I took Matthew to the downtown hoffbrau here. I hadn't been there since the 90s. I thought thhey had ok touristy-steaks."
[Austin] Allen says, "I was embarrassed. Crappy steaks"
[Austin] Rob says, "Matthew? wha"
[Austin] jenrexrode exclaims, "and boy when it does klose, fooom!"
[Austin] Allen says, "he was in Dallas"
[Austin] jenrexrode says, "oh no"
[Austin] Rob says, "huh"
[Austin] jenrexrode says, "well I need a non loud place to take my dad that has old fashioned food"
[Austin] Allen says, "It was Kroger's quality steak, though the did cook it alright"
[Austin] Rob says, "well I saw him in austin and took him to magnolia cafe back in january or so"
[Austin] Rob says, "heh Kroger's quality"
[Austin] jenrexrode says, "mag was too noisy"
[Austin] Rob says, "oh right taking dad out"
[Austin] Rob says, "mag is very noisy"
[Austin] jenrexrode says, "he can't hear"
[Austin] Rob says, "I have a pair of earplugs I keep in my pocket that I sometimes deploy"
[Austin] jenrexrode exclaims, "heh, auto-deploy sqooof!"
[Austin] Rob says, "actually it's not for the conversation noise, it's for when they crash the plates into the bin"
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[Austin] Allen says (to jenrexrode), "there's a very nice italian place in the lakeview shopping center that doesn't play music at all, and isn't very loud"
[Austin] Allen says, "so, just drive up 200 miles to dallas..."
[Austin] Rob says, "some of the waiters noticed that I wear them sometimes which was a tad embarrassing"
[Austin] jenrexrode says, "but he just came from Granbury"
[Austin] Rob says, "but I've been protective of my hearing since I started doing audio work seriously back in the aught nineties"
[Austin] Rob says, "where's granbury"
Roger goes home.
Roger has disconnected.
[DrawSomething] Rob says, "hm might be time to catch up"
[DrawSomething] Rob says, "I've been getting reminder pings from everybody for a week now"
[Austin] jenrexrode says, "west of FW"
[headlines] baf says, "Doo-dah, doo-dah"
[jendoodle] jenrexrode says, "almost not shockingly bad in the guest room now"
[jendoodle] Rob says, "hooray"
[kitties] Allen says, "out of the litter box... time to race around the corner and top speed, back end skidding out"
[kitties] inky says, "ha ha"
inky says, "ok done"
inky got credit for creating Common and the concept of money, for generating lots of art and literature, and for being the very best at killing his enemies.
</inky> Then after she finishes that quest it's time to explore the deadly shoals of terrible one-act plays and poetry readings.
[jendoodle] jenrexrode says, "and it's justn my dad, not his wfie, too"
[jendoodle] jenrexrode says, "so we''l just do stuff until we're tired and go to dinner, and then he goes off to read, but wife was sitting around last time looking bored"
[kitties] borowski says, "After having worried all evening that my cat was caught outside in the thunderstorm, I finally discovered her sleeping in the closet."
[jendoodle] Rob says, "but not this time"
[jendoodle] jenrexrode says, "yeah, she stayed home"
[videogames] McMartin says, "#hats http://www.adultswim.com/promos/valve/ "
[jendoodle] jenrexrode says, "hey, another Amiga 1000"
[jendoodle] Rob asks, "another?"
[jendoodle] Rob says, "also, ghira is the #amiga guy on here"
[jendoodle] jenrexrode says, "i guess it tagged along with the Apples"
[jendoodle] Ellison asks, "which Apples? are you looking to get rid of anything?"
[board-games] Doug says, "Meeples Choice 2011: The Castles of Burgundy, Ora et Labora, A Few Acres of Snow"
[jendoodle] Rob says, "you have an amiga sitting around"
[jendoodle] Rob asks (of ellison), "are you in the market for old apples?"
[board-games] Doug says, "I guess I should play one of those sometime"
[jendoodle] jenrexrode says, "yes, Apple //e and ][+, come get"
[jendoodle] Rob says, "mm"
[jendoodle] jenrexrode says, "I have 2 Amigas, but I'll keep them to play my Monty Python game"
[jendoodle] Ellison says, "I think Recchi is keeping an eye out for a IIgs, but maybe he'd pick some of those up, too"
[jendoodle] boucher says, "That's the problem with Apple II's.  Nostalgic people want, but they're heavy creatures, difficult to ship about and whatnot."
[jendoodle] Rob says, "I figured Recchi might be behind this"
[jendoodle] Ellison says, "is the Monty Python game that CD-ROM game from sometime back? I believe that was released for pc, too, although some of those can be a pain to run (if they need Windows 3.1 or something)"
[jendoodle] boucher says, "Back when I was just out of college and was enjoying having my own place, a friend of mine and I started going to university auctions, and one of the items was four pallets of 80's computer equipment, and before my brain could kick in and say no, I bid on and won them all."
[jendoodle] Rob says, "do you still have 'em"
[jendoodle] Ellison says, "I had a IIgs, but I shipped it to Adam Thornton"
[jendoodle] boucher says, "No, I do not...I sadly needed to move at some point, and there's only so quickly you can deal with a half ton of computers."
[jendoodle] jenrexrode says, "it's on floppy"
[jendoodle] jenrexrode says, "these computers dont have CDs"
[jendoodle] Ellison says (to jenrexrode), "looks like you have Monty Python's Flying Circus. I'm thinking of Monty Python's Complete Waste of Time (also, looks like there were more Monty Python releases than I realized)."
boucher enterd the room and screemed, "I had sheesh to lose, but you are not going to get the Monka."
Grocible goes home.
Grocible has disconnected.
[cartoons] Jota asks, "Is Adventure Time really aimed at kids, or was that just a ruse to get the network to allow them to make a show aimed at immature grownups?"
[jendoodle] jenrexrode says, "oh yeah, it's not that it's this other one where you move a foot around and try to eat Spam"
<Miseri> My soul belongs to Portneuf yet my heart belongs to cheese.
[jendoodle] jenrexrode says, "I played complete waste of time, but where and when I don't know"
[cartoons] Jota asks, "I mean, how many kids are going to be familiar with mimics and displacer beasts and trappers?"
[cartoons] Jota asks, "And gelatinous cubes?"
Miseri regularly eats multiples of things inky wouldn't eat more than zero of.
Miseri says, "arrr"
Ellison says, "hey Mis"
[DrawSomething] Rob says, "uh oh, ran out of steam"
[DrawSomething] Rob says, "right after solving jen's last one but before drawing another one for her"
[DrawSomething] jenrexrode says, "aw"
[DrawSomething] boucher says, "That's what you get for using a steam-powered pen"
[DrawSomething] Rob says, "well I stopped when I thought 'I could do this better if I waited a bit and recharged'"
[DrawSomething] boucher asks, "They didn't ask you to draw dignity, did they?"
[DrawSomething] boucher says, "</simpsons>"
[DrawSomething] Rob says, "hm, drawing dignity"
[DrawSomething] Rob asks, "what's the simpson's context?"
[DrawSomething] jenrexrode exclaims, "hmm!"
[DrawSomething] Rob says, "dignity is something I'd try to draw by painting it archetypally on canvas"
[DrawSomething] Rob says, "I hope I remember to try that"
[DrawSomething] boucher says, "There's a disastrous party at which Milhouse's parents separate after arguing all evening, culminating in a hostile game of Pictionary, where Milhouse's father attempts to draw 'dignity'"
[DrawSomething] Rob says, "wow"
[DrawSomething] Rob says, "that's pretty muscularly out there"
[DrawSomething] Rob asks, "what season of the simpsons was that ?"
[DrawSomething] borowski says, "That was wonderfully ironic."
[DrawSomething] Rob says, "some simpsons writer was having a crisis of conscience"
[DrawSomething] borowski says, "'A Milhouse Divided" season 8."
[DrawSomething] Rob says, "wow, long time ago"
[DrawSomething] boucher says, "Eighth, apparently."
[DrawSomething] Rob asks, "did he manage to draw anything?"
[DrawSomething] boucher says, "Timing"
[DrawSomething] boucher says, " http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_98EQL4_zmLQ/SgJhGaWydHI/AAAAAAAAAI4/m4ZDik9ddks/s400/dignity.jpg "
[DrawSomething] borowski says, "I wonder how many drawings they went through trying to decide on one."
[DrawSomething] Rob says, "a bunch, I have to imagine"
[DrawSomething] Rob says, "well good for the simpsons for doing anything about dignity"
[robmumble] Rob says, "my dignity is still intact"
[robmumble] Rob says, "this is one of the ways I've lived my life, whatever befell me for choosing so"
Rob heads right on out.
</Rob> Find release from your cares. have a good time.
Seeya later.