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ifMUD
An interactive real time social network chat bulletin board
quotebook url database with a parrot bot
Copyright 1997-2007 by Loungent Technologies, a wholly owned subsidiary of
rec.[arts|games].int-fiction; All rights reserved.
Release 4 / Serial number 990908 / perlMUD v2.1z
    "The characters were mostly of the cardboard cutout variety.
    I wanted to punch everyone except the one Scottish guy."
         --Jearl
  NOTE: Whenever a fix or enhancement is in place, it will be announced
  on the channel '#mud-updates'.
  OTHER NOTE: There is a mailing list where people can say things like
  "hey, the mud's down, what's up with that?" In fact, since this is
  the only thing the list is used for, you should join it if you are
  interested in this subject. To join, go to
    http://groups.google.com/group/ifmud/
  or talk to Steve.
Robinson Manor
A gracious, welcoming, airy space. Music drifts in from unseen speakers. A picture window on the southern wall provides a pleasant source of light and a sense of openness.
You can see: teleporter, a picture window, comfy sofa, Jeopardy podium, buzzer1, buzzer2, buzzer3, Jota greets Rob, fake_Robb_Sherwin
Visible Exits: west, east
<Rob> "that was a sound of realization transitioning into a groan"
No new channels have been created since your last check.
Adventurer's Lounge
Candles on the wood-panelled walls create a comfortably dark atmosphere. Hand-drawn maps are taped to nearly every surface -- the walls, the ceiling, the trophy case in the corner. Seating is plentiful. A small storage closet is to the north.
You can see: new laundry list, Birthday Calendar, magic laundry list, banner reading "Happy birthday yournamehere!", Even Newer World Map, charset sampler, Automeeter, TheMasterTheorem player names, time zones, MUD Client Wish List, battle.net battletags, madlibs, Anything Finder, Sarcasm Detector, Gene Ray
Players: Alex, markm, Touchy, ctmiller, Jon, DorianX, Jearl, vimes, Ryan, GDorn, annabianca, Allen, genericgeekgirl, Dave, baf, zaphod, Bishop, jpt, Matthew, Markov, McMartin, Psmith, boucher, maga, marc, ghira, Steve, vaporware, jenrexrode, Whizzard, BrenBarn, nothings, two-star, Ellison
Visible Exits: north, west, southwest, southeast, up, east
Rob comes right on in.
Recapping 1000 of 2978 lines from recent channels:
[lounge]/13:23 BrenBarn asks, "anybody want a peanut?"
[programming]|13:23 Jon says, "I think it's kind of silly that the 'Java master' is the font of wisdom."
[programming]|13:23 inky says, "the weird thing about that interpretation is there are four of the "elite" people and only one of the "grunt" people"
[programming]|13:23 BrenBarn says, "yeah, that is weird"
[lounge]|13:23 Tale says, "No, but how about this orange?`"
[programming]|13:23 BrenBarn says, "but that is the mystery of enlightenment"
[programming]|13:24 Gunther says (to inky), "I read it as 4 code monkeys and one creative person"
[programming]|13:25 BrenBarn says, "but then the 4 would be the grass and the other the willows"
[programming]|13:25 BrenBarn says, "THE GOOSE IS OUT"
[lunch]|13:25 Ryan says, "Wow."
[lunch]|13:25 Matthew asks, "???"
[lunch]|13:26 Matthew says, "DON'T KEEP US HANGING"
[lunch]|13:26 ghira says, "Ryan is disappointed in Ramsay"
[lunch]|13:26 Ryan says, "Local bakery opened a sandwich shop recently. I just had their spicy hummus/chutney/pickles/tomato sandwich and it is amazing."
[programming]|13:26 Gunther says (to BrenBarn), "the last sentence makes it clear that the willows are useless"
[lunch]|13:26 Matthew says (to ghira), "Ha ha ha."
[lounge]|13:26 inky says, "ok zip"
[lounge]|13:26 inky has already funded a $2000 Uhaul rental to transport a triceratops skeleton from Wyoming to Seattle, as well as a penguin-tagging project.
[lunch]|13:26 Matthew asks (of Ryan), "What kind of bread is it on?"
[lounge]|13:26 Jota says, "inky's getting out of work early these days."
[lunch]|13:26 Ryan says, "A sesame hoagie roll."
[lunch]|13:26 Matthew says, "Mmm."
[lunch]|13:26 Ryan says, "Fresh from the oven!"
[lounge]|13:26 Ellison arrives from the east.
[lounge]|13:27 Ellison says, "hey all"
[lunch]|13:27 zarf says, "once again, I ate a cheddar cheese on slices of raisin cake sandwich"
[lounge]|13:27 Gunther says, "ELLISON!!"
[lounge]|13:27 BrenBarn says, "Hola Ell"
[programming]|13:27 BrenBarn says, "I dunno about that"
[lunch]|13:27 Matthew says, "Huh, that's an interesting combination of flavors."
[lounge]|13:29 Ellison says, "GUNTHER!!"
[lounge]|13:30 Hjalfi says, "Hometime."
[lounge]|13:30 Hjalfi enthusiastically mundanifies between spasms of personality-occultism and off-topic casual/social-leveraging.
[programming]|13:31 ghira says, "I guess I don't know enough about programming to understand much of this. but http://www.thecodelesscode.com/case/14 seems especially odd"
[programming]|13:34 Jon says, "it's pretty silly, yes"
[lounge]|13:36 Ellison says, "actually, csb"
[lounge]|13:36 Ellison goes back to Squeamhurst..
[lounge]|13:36 * Ellison has disconnected.
[programming]|13:36 Nitku says, "I suppose it's just musing on "hello world" programs"
[law]|13:39 K-Y says, "Google has not adequately disclosed their paid commenters on the Oracle case"
[law]|13:40 K-Y says, "so more disclosures are now ordered"
[law]|13:41 Jon asks, "do we have any?"
[jobs]|13:43 Ryan says, "Hah, awesome. I asked our sysadmin to move 20% of our traffic to our new servers and he misread and moved all of it over."
[jobs]|13:43 Ryan says, "I guess we're live!"
[lounge]|13:43 two-star sought a woman and found a monkey. Well, it happens.
[science]|13:44 boucher says, "!  'Mars rover Curiosity zaps "Coronation" rock with rapid-fire laser'"
[science]|13:44 Gunther says, ", rock livetweets"
[science]|13:45 boucher says, "The ! being a sort of Thomas Dolby thing"
[diocese]|13:45 Bishop prints out publications, papers submitted for publication, grant proposals, and correspondence relating to grant proposals and publications.
[law]|13:45 K-Y says, "Google's disclosure was 'we have categorically paid any number of people or groups who may or may not have commented on this case'"
[diocese]|13:45 Bishop says, "Filling a binder with these is slowly making me feel like a Real Mathematician."
[law]|13:45 K-Y says, "basically"
[law]|13:46 Jon says, "hm. what does 'catagorically paid' mean here/"
[science]|13:46 boucher says, "If we ever have any hope for the space program, we need more shooting of things on distant planets with lasers."
[law]|13:46 K-Y says, "I'm paraphrasing"
[law]|13:47 K-Y | http://t.co/jfRLdcDZ
[law]|13:47 Jota says, "I guess they've paid everyone who puts Google ads on their blog."
[law]|13:47 K-Y says, "they just list a bunch of categories of people"
[law]|13:48 Jon says, "aha."
[law]|13:48 K-Y says (to Jota), "latest order says 'not including ad revenue'"
[law]|13:48 Jon asks, "so they say 'we didn't pay anyone directly, but here's the people we might have paid via ad revenue'?"
[lounge]|13:48 zarf walks off through the wall; pale violet light flares briefly around him.
[lounge]|13:49 Yuri arrives from the east.
[law]|13:50 K-Y says, "'it would be extraordinarily difficult for Google to identify those people', even"
[law]|13:50 Gunther says, "lollylulz444.blogspot.com could be ANYONE"
[law]|13:50 K-Y says, "there are no names"
[law]|13:51 Jon says (to K-Y), "I understood that to mean 'it would be difficult for us to identify the intersection of the set 'people who got money from us, however indirectly' and 'people who wrote about this case on their blogs'"
[law]|13:51 K-Y says, "basically"
[videogames]|13:52 Gunther says, "amazing. http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/eviltreestudios/compound-89191-the-beginning-of-a-console-franchis "
[videogames]|13:53 Jon asks, "'dead'?"
[videogames]|13:53 Alex says (to Jon), "Awwwk! Word on the street is that Dead is what the MUD gets when everyone shuts their traps."
[law]|13:53 K-Y says, "however, the judge notes that Oracle at least named some people"
[videogames]|13:53 Gunther says, "by dead."
[videogames]|13:53 Jon asks, "have you seen the various kickstarters for OUYA games?"
[videogames]|13:53 Gunther says, "unfortunately"
[law]|13:53 Jon asks, "well, Oracle does pay people directly to blog about it, right? Like Florian Mueller?"
[videogames]|13:53 Matthew asks, "Wait, there are Kickstarters for a console that doesn't even exist yet?"
[law]|13:53 K-Y says, "Oracle named him, yes"
[videogames]|13:54 Jon says (to Matthew), "yep!"
[videogames]|13:54 Gunther asks (of Matthew), "sure, who doesn't want free money without strings attached?"
[law]|13:54 K-Y | he was not retained to write about the case
[videogames]|13:55 Jon | http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1484703132/noble-path?ref=live
[videogames]|13:56 Jon says, "allegedly the OUYA sdk is just the android sdk with libraries for ouya-specific hardware like the controller, so all they have to do is make an android game and promise a port."
[law]|13:56 K-Y says, "Oracle also named people who may have been paid by Google"
[robots]|13:57 Jon | http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/double-transforms-your-ipad-into-a-telepresencerobot/
[law]|13:57 K-Y says, "which is cheeky"
[law]|13:59 Fang asks, "if oracle does that, is it potentially libellous?"
[law]|14:01 K-Y says, "well, take a look"
[law]|14:01 K-Y | http://t.co/kweQU9HS
[blogenfreude]|14:08 katre says, "AAAAAAAAAH"
[jobs]|14:09 Matthew says, "So I asked about the DE job."
[jobs]|14:09 Matthew says, "They'll know more this week, they say."
[lounge]|14:09 Ellison has appeared in three Bigfoot/Abominable Snowman-themed movies: Bigfoot: The Unforgettable Encounter, Little Bigfoot and Abominable.
[lounge]|14:09 Johnny arrives from the east.
[jobs]|14:09 ghira asks (of matt), "so you've booked stuff for that trip you mentioned in the meantime, I imagine?"
[jobs]|14:09 Matthew says (to ghira), "The EIC told me to."
[jobs]|14:10 Matthew says, "So even if they hire me, I will be doing that."
[jobs]|14:10 ghira says, "fair enough"
[eeeagh]|14:12 ghira says, " http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-mid-wales-19318591 "
[sf-bay-area]|14:12 Matthew asks (of Jon), "Oh, speaking of #jobs, I'll be in town September 10-14, so maybe we can get together sometime?"
[sf-bay-area]|14:12 Matthew says, "I won't have a ton of free time, but I may have some."
[blogenfreude]|14:13 Jota asks, "notalwaysright?"
[blogenfreude]|14:13 Jota says, "(Looks like it's not responding for me.)"
[sf-bay-area]|14:14 Jon says, "alright"
[lounge]|14:15 inky just fights an octopus one day for no reason.
[lounge]|14:15 inky says, "re-me"
[lounge]|14:15 vimes says, "iinnkkyy"
[lounge]|14:15 Matthew says (to inky), "Hey.  Uh, interesting connect message there."
[lounge]|14:15 Johnny says, "Hi damn focus-stealing Chrome inky"
[lounge]|14:16 vimes asks (of matthew), "do you need some alone time?"
[lounge]|14:16 marc in the land of the lounge lizards.
[lounge]|14:16 ghira goes home.
[lounge]|14:16 * ghira has disconnected.
[lounge]|14:16 ghira shot the mermaid, but he did not shoot the manatee
[lounge]|14:16 ghira says, "meep"
[lounge]|14:17 Johnny does like justice, but that's taking it a bit far.
[lounge]|14:17 Jota asks, "Is that a Ryan North quote?"
[lounge]|14:17 Johnny insisted that the mobile hot-dog-on-a-bun did nothing wrong.
[lounge]|14:17 inky says, "you would think, but no"
[lounge]|14:18 inky says, "it's from http://joshreads.com/?p=14406 "
[lounge]|14:18 inky says, "(you can skip the first paragraph if you want)"
[law]|14:18 K-Y says, "hey, draft verdict forms"
[law]|14:19 K-Y | http://www.scribd.com/doc/103353251/1825-1
[law]|14:20 K-Y | http://www.scribd.com/doc/103353272/1825-1
[law]|14:20 K-Y says, "wait, last part of that should be a 2"
[college]|14:25 Bishop | As a condition of participating in sports, the [University of Kentucky and University of Louisville] require athletes to agree to monitoring software being placed on their social media accounts. This software emails alerts to coaches whenever athletes use a word that could embarrass the student, the university or tarnish their images on services such as Twitter, Facebook, YouTube and MySpace.
[lounge]|14:25 Emily goes home.
[lounge]|14:25 * Emily has disconnected.
[college]|14:25 ghira exclaims, "in any language in the world!"
[college]|14:26 Bishop | The words range from the seemingly innocuous "pony" -- a euphemism for crack cocaine -- and "panties," to all manner of alcoholic drinks and sexual expressions usually heard on the street. UK also flags "Muslim" and "Arab" -- though after being questioned about it by The Courier-Journal the school said it will no longer do so.
[college]|14:27 BrenBarn says, "what about shawtypimp"
[college]|14:27 Gunther says, "man, this is so wrong"
[jobs]|14:27 Dave says, "so they ordered pizza"
[college]|14:27 ghira asks, "what about "topazzo"?"
[college]|14:27 Bishop | Bradley Shear, a Washington, D.C., attorney and digital media expert who has advised state legislatures across the country on social media policy, calls the practice of monitoring student athletes' social media accounts "unbelievably outrageous" and "clearly unconstitutional."
[college]|14:27 Gunther says, ""Pony" is not slang for crack cocaine, and seriously, who still uses that term and is NOT stuck in the 1970s..."
[jobs]|14:27 Dave says, "and I mentioned I'd prefer just cheese and sausage"
[college]|14:27 Gunther says, "it's about MLP, which is vastly more embarrassing"
[jobs]|14:27 Dave says, "and yet the gal orders three combo pizzas"
[jobs]|14:28 Gunther says, "there is no I in TEAM, Dave"
[jobs]|14:28 Dave says, "and she goes, there _is_ a sausage pizza"
[jobs]|14:28 Dave says, "and I go, but there's mushrroms and peppers and onions too"
[jobs]|14:28 inky says, "this pizza is insufficiently a sausagefest"
[college]|14:28 Bishop asks, "Bradley Shear must be smoking some good pony. Surely the concern is about students' _public_ statements, which it's not a violation of any law to monitor?"
[jobs]|14:28 baf says, "There is however an I in PIZZA."
[college]|14:28 K-Y says, "I hope they are also monitoring for 'china cat'"
[jobs]|14:28 Dave says, "she stared at me not comprehending this was not what I meant when I said sausage"
[college]|14:29 ghira asks, "why do you need to agree to monitoring software being used on your public statements? that can be done anyway, surely?"
[jobs]|14:29 Dave says, "I'm really tired and cranky today"
[jobs]|14:30 Dave says, "she's also been telling everyone about her new henna tatoo"
[college]|14:30 Bishop says (to Gunther), "Hey, I remember once having to do a drug worksheet (I forget whether it was for an anti-drug class, or what) which asked about heroin a.k.a. 'horse'. I think there was also some bit of slang that was absurdly miscategorized, like claimnig that 'skunk' was cocaine or something."
[jobs]|14:31 Dave says, "on the plus side, they have a light saber"
[college]|14:31 ghira says, "oh how I laughed when I was threatened with having to "do" Personal Health and Social Education while on teacher training"
[jobs]|14:31 Dave says, "one of the expensive ones"
[jobs]|14:31 inky says, "ha ha"
[college]|14:31 ghira says, "I considered refusing but asked them to seriously think for a while about the idea of me explaining sex and drugs to sixteen year olds, and they got someone else to do it."
[jobs]|14:31 Dave says, "and a wilson soccer ball...with the hand print from castaway"
[jobs]|14:32 Dave says, "apparently that was for when they opened the office and there was only one person here"
[java-sux]|14:33 Jon | http://i.imgur.com/TS77f.jpg
[jobs]|14:34 Dave says, "I think the mood I'm in, they're lucky the lightsaber is not real"
[hardware]|14:34 * maga has joined the channel.
[jobs]|14:35 olethros says, "they are not lucky - it's normal"
[java-sux]|14:36 inky says, "heh"
[java-sux]|14:37 ghira says, "I thought people liked Eclipse. more than e.g. a series of "echo 'input a' >>myprog.java" type commands"
[angst]|14:39 olethros says, "I am angsting over potentially having done the wrong thing in turning down aberdeen"
[angst]|14:39 olethros says, "I was somewhat disappointed when I went there, but the clincher was that K was adamant about not wanting to go to scotland"
[jobs]|14:40 Dave says, "it looks like I'll be on the bench to start"
[jobs]|14:40 Dave says, "they're going to have us work on an internal project"
[angst]|14:40 olethros says, "arrrrrr"
[java-sux]|14:40 Jon says, "some days I'd prefer the echos."
[angst]|14:40 olethros says, "anyway, nothing I can do about it now"
[angst]|14:40 ghira says, "well they had demands you couldn't say yes to"
[java-sux]|14:40 olethros says, "oh come on, eclipse is better than say emacs"
[java-sux]|14:40 Jon says, "WRONG"
[angst]|14:41 olethros says, "I could have said yes, if I really wanted to go there"
[angst]|14:41 olethros says, "i.e. if it was Ofxord and not Aberdeen"
[angst]|14:41 ghira asks, "what would K have said to Oxford?"
[java-sux]|14:41 Gunther says, " http://i.imgur.com/DYmyh.jpg "
[angst]|14:41 olethros says, "I wouldn't care what she said"
[angst]|14:42 olethros says, "but presumably she'd have said 'hooray'"
[lounge]|14:42 borowski comes here everyday to talk to butterflies and say stuff to them.
[lounge]|14:42 * borowski has disconnected.
[lounge]|14:42 Yuri goes home.
[angst]|14:42 olethros says, "my main worry was that Aberdeen would have turned out to be a dead-end job"
[hardware]|14:42 maga says, "oh joy, monitor problem turns out to be totally independent of the monitor"
[hardware]|14:43 Gunther says, "jiggle the cable!"
[angst]|14:43 olethros says, "but I can't see myself going to a much better place than Aberdeen."
[hardware]|14:43 maga says, "time to open the tower and reseat everything, I guess"
[angst]|14:44 annabianca says, "you should go to a place you have intention to stay at least for a few years"
[lounge]|14:44 Yuri arrives from the east.
[angst]|14:44 olethros says, "yeah, well, I wouldn't have minded staying there for 4-5 years if K was going to come along"
[angst]|14:45 olethros says, "anyway, I HOPE she likes her new job"
[obits]|14:45 Matthew says, "I'm seeing on Twitter that Tony Scott had inoperable brain cancer.  That's really sad."
[angst]|14:45 olethros says, "(hm, I see Aberdeen is 38 in the league tables - not too shabby)"
[angst]|14:45 ghira asks, "any progress on finding a job in same city as hers?"
[angst]|14:46 olethros says, "not an academic one. And I have no intention whatsoever to do anything else"
[angst]|14:46 Fang asks, "where are you looking now?"
[angst]|14:46 olethros says, "bugger all, I'd rather be unemployed and let her do all the work"
[angst]|14:47 Fang asks, "is the aberdeen position still open?"
[angst]|14:47 olethros says, "well, we basically concluded in the negative"
[angst]|14:47 olethros says, "unless I send them a last minute email telling them I changed my mind"
[lounge]|14:48 Jota says (to GDorn), "Sure it is. SQL is made for this. 'UPDATE Things SET IsExpected = 0'."
[lounge]|14:48 Jota says, "Ilac."
[angst]|14:50 ghira says, "could you do a non-academic job which is still research-based? video codecs or .. uh.. medical imaging or breast biomechanics for beach volleyball videogames or something"
[angst]|14:50 olethros says, "well I just went for an interview at this medical research institute"
[angst]|14:50 olethros says, "it's academic, but it is about something real and useful"
[java-sux]|14:51 Jon says, "my screen saver is now just the java and eclipse images, one after the other."
[angst]|14:51 ghira says, "someone I knew at  university did phd then some postdoc then stopped that and does his own consultancy where he does mathematical modelling for heating of satellites and who knows what else kind of stuff"
[lounge]|14:51 Petrosilius arrives from the east.
[lounge]|14:52 Petrosilius says, "Good evening all."
[angst]|14:52 ghira asks (of olethros), "and how did the medical thing go?"
[angst]|14:52 olethros says, "it was ok"
[angst]|14:52 olethros says, "they said I Was really good but perhaps not in the things were interested in"
[angst]|14:52 olethros says, "and I said well, it is all statistics"
[angst]|14:54 ghira says, "this guy did maths for a while before doing this. and juggling. and unicycle riding. http://www.solipsys.co.uk/new/index.html "
[lounge]|14:55 Yuri goes home.
[lounge]|14:56 borowski is now in glorious EXTRA CHEESE!
[lounge]|14:56 borowski says, "Hiya"
[jobs]|15:07 Dave says, "I may have to do Android, Blackberry, iOS, and WP7 development"
[apropos-of-nothing]|15:10 inky | the subtitle after the colon is an indication that the story will continue in a subsequent novel
[apropos-of-nothing]|15:13 Jota says, "Coming probably never, 'Lost Pig: And Sunny Place With Sand And Water That Taste Like Salt'"
[apropos-of-nothing]|15:13 inky says, ">TAKE BIG GREEN PLANT     Ouch! Plant bite Grunk!"
[apropos-of-nothing]|15:19 Tale says, "Thanks, now I want to play that game."
[personals]|15:20 genericgeekgirl says, "Bleh. C'mon, OKCupid. Don't put people in my Quiver who rank as "less geeky than most." That's even worse than the people with super-high libidos."
[personals]|15:20 BrenBarn says, "it puts tons of people in my quiver who have absurdly low match percentages"
[personals]|15:22 genericgeekgirl says, "I don't think it's given me anyone under 95% or so. It does send me those "so-and-so is checking you out, and we think you'd be a great match" emails for tons of people who match pretty poorly, though."
[personals]|15:22 BrenBarn asks, "dang, 95%?"
[personals]|15:24 inky asks, "you do realize that the 'less geeky than most' stuff is less reliable than the match percentage, which is only so-so reliable in itself?"
[personals]|15:26 genericgeekgirl says, "Oh, I peeked through his public questions, as well. I was not happy with what I saw."
[lounge]|15:28 Ryan | http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l55ilpswnu1qb6cnho1_250.gif
[lounge]|15:28 Ryan says, "Maaan."
[lounge]|15:29 inky says, "I don't know what I'm seeing, but it's mesmerizing"
[lounge]|15:29 olethros has ordered three mega-generators to be installed in his boathouse.
[obits]|15:29 * NewsBoy hollers, "Extra! Extra! Matthew has posted message 473, about 'Phyllis Diller, 95', to the bulletin board!"
[lounge]|15:29 inky asks, "is the bird at the end levelling up?"
[lounge]|15:29 olethros was sworn in by robed priests on Thursday morning.
[obits]|15:29 inky says, "man, 95"
[lounge]|15:30 zarf walks in through the wall. Behind him, light shines briefly through, vivid gold this time of day.
[juxtaposition]|15:32 Johnny says, "I read the last few lines of #personals, got up, and came back to | [obits] inky says, "man, 95""
[juxtaposition]|15:32 inky says, "ha ha"
[board-games]|15:33 Gunther says, "...gdor. REPLY GET"
[board-games]|15:33 Gunther says, "er"
[board-games]|15:33 Gunther says (to GDorn), "REPLY GET"
[board-games]|15:33 Gunther says, "Their backing tool will allow replacing Tits with other stuff"
[lounge]|15:36 (From Marvin) MARVIN is here! YAY!
[lounge]|15:36 Marvin says, "Hi."
[board-games]|15:36 inky says, "I'm just going to enjoy that out of context"
[lounge]|15:37 inky says, "marvin is here, never fear"
[lounge]|15:37 inky says, "or he will punch you in the ear"
[lounge]|15:37 Marvin says, "Yes, hello inky."
[lounge]|15:37 Johnny says, "Hi Marvin"
[board-games]|15:37 Johnny says, "A motorcycle riding a larger motorcycle."
[lounge]|15:38 Marvin says, "Hmm. I think I need a 'patronising voice' emote or something."
[board-games]|15:38 GDorn says, "ah, good.  I also asked them that, maybe they'll post it in an update."
[board-games]|15:39 GDorn asks, "does their backing tool (snrk) also allow for adding more funds after the kickstarter ends?"
[comics]|15:39 K-Y says, "what we have all been waiting for"
[personals]|15:39 Marvin says, "I'm not entirely sure why I'm still on OKC. I never message anyone and rarely even get around to replying to people who message me."
[comics]|15:39 K-Y | http://www.comicsalliance.com/2012/08/20/batman-odyssey-neal-adams-review/
[comics]|15:39 K-Y says, "VOLUME TWO"
[lounge]|15:42 Ellison goes back to Squeamhurst..
[lounge]|15:42 * Ellison has disconnected.
[lounge]|15:43 Petrosilius goes home.
[comics]|15:43 inky says, "aw yeah"
[personals]|15:43 BrenBarn says, "it's LittleSugarMama who keeps me coming back"
[personals]|15:45 inky asks, "she's not still around, is she?"
[comics]|15:48 Jota exclaims, "Woo!"
[lounge]|15:49 Nitku leaves.
[Windows]|15:53 Johnny asks, "Does updating in Safe Mode cause any problems?"
[personals]|15:54 Dave says, "the last okcupid date I went on, the lady wanted to be spanked and for me to get a harley"
[Windows]|15:54 Tale says, "No, it's safe."
[personals]|15:54 Dave says, "I was not interested"
[personals]|15:55 inky says, "that is funny since presumably that is some guy's ideal woman"
[personals]|15:56 Johnny says (to inky), "But that guy probably already has a harley."
[personals]|15:56 Johnny says, "He doesn't need two Harleys."
[personals]|15:56 BrenBarn says, "LittleSugarMama is one of those profiles that somehow is still there although it's been inactive for years"
[personals]|15:57 Johnny asks, "Do they deactivate accounts?"
[personals]|15:57 BrenBarn says, "yeah"
[personals]|15:57 inky says, "maybe they have a secret best-of list"
[personals]|15:57 Marvin says, "The best I've ever done with OKC is a girl I never met because she lived somewhere in Europe. i forget where."
[personals]|15:58 BrenBarn says (to inky), "I've always wondered that"
[personals]|15:58 BrenBarn says, "a couple of cool users I talked to a long time ago still have visible profiles although they're long inactive"
[personals]|15:59 Marvin says, "We talked for a few months and then she decided she wasn't interested."
[DustWorld]|16:00 DavidW says, "oh fuck. OW has suspended me; they claim I haven't provided rent info."
[education]|16:00 Allen | School withholds valedictorian's diploma for saying "hell"
[DustWorld]|16:00 DavidW says, "I have, though. They've screwed up somehow."
[education]|16:01 BrenBarn | reinstates it when he adds, "o"
[education]|16:01 Allen | Kaitlin Nootbaar graduated from Prague High School, the Red Devils, in May and was named valedictorian.
[education]|16:01 inky says, "whatta bunch of nootbaars"
[lounge]|16:01 Ellison arrives from the east.
[education]|16:01 Allen | http://kfor.com/2012/08/18/46913/
[education]|16:02 Allen | Kaitlin doesn't plan on writing an apology letter because she doesn't feel she did anything wrong.
[personals]|16:02 Marvin says, "I keep thinking one day I'll actually put some effort into using the site. And then I don't."
[education]|16:03 Allen says, "this is the school's logo: http://www.prague.k12.ok.us/page/1078 "
[education]|16:03 inky says, "oh, heh, I missed that was the joke"
[education]|16:03 BrenBarn says, "man"
[lounge]|16:04 Jizaboz paddles home.
[education]|16:05 Allen | A similar incident occurred in June when high school senior Anthony Cornist was denied his diploma because, school officials said, his friends and family cheered so loudly for him that it disrupted the ceremony.
[kitties]|16:05 maga says, "a sparrow is taunting Taiya"
[kitties]|16:06 maga says, "she was trying to look like a great huntress but then she decided she would rather do so while sitting down"
[education]|16:09 Jota asks, "Wha?"
[education]|16:10 Jota asks, "Surely there must be some rule against a school deciding to withhold a diploma that a student has earned, no?"
[seattle]|16:10 * NewsBoy hollers, "Extra! Extra! mamster has posted message 153, about 'I should be around for SteveCon', to the bulletin board! Dammit, I bet this is going to require pants."
[education]|16:10 mamster says, "When they say 'withhold the diploma' they probably don't mean fail to graduate the person."
[education]|16:11 mamster says, "Probably they're just withholding a piece of paper."
[education]|16:11 mamster says, "I had my diploma withheld and no one ever gave a shit, least of all me."
[education]|16:11 Jota asks (of mamster), "What heinous offense did you, and/or other people outside of your control acting in some fashion that related to you, commit?"
[education]|16:12 mamster says, "Mine was, of course, withheld for saying, 'no one ever gave a shit'"
[education]|16:12 (from vimes) mamster says, "went to SteveCon without pants"
[education]|16:12 mamster says, "My diploma was withheld because a kid stole my graphing calculator and I didn't want to pay for it."
[education]|16:12 BrenBarn says, "it was especially ironic because you went to East Toilet High School"
[education]|16:12 mamster says, "ha ha"
[board-games]|16:13 Gunther says (to GDorn), "as far as I can tell, yes"
[lounge]|16:13 BrenBarn flashes the "catch you later" handsign.
[programming]|16:14 GDorn says, "I am in post-fork code porting hell."
[education]|16:14 mamster says, "Anyway, I was probably in the wrong. Maybe I should go back and see if I can get that diploma out of hock."
[education]|16:15 mamster says, "But now, naptime."
[grubshack]|16:15 Matthew says, "Oh hey, you."
[grubshack]|16:15 Matthew exclaims (at mamster), "Wait!"
[programming]|16:15 GDorn says, "maybe 8 months ago, the codebase here forked, and then we did five months of refactor on the original codebase.  now the task is to port that refactor over to the newer fork, which has also changed and is in a different repo (git vs hg) entirely"
[grubshack]|16:15 Matthew says, "Bah."
[programming]|16:15 GDorn asks, "patch is not brilliant.  is there something better?"
[programming]|16:15 Gunther asks (of GDorn), ""I quit"?"
[programming]|16:16 GDorn says, "yeah, that's the next option."
[programming]|16:16 GDorn says, "we raised several objections to touching the pre-fork codebase (the pain of keeping them in sync being the number one gripe) but management are fuckheads"
[lounge]|16:16 Steve left the White House after one term, disgraced and offensively clean.
[lounge]|16:16 Steve says, "re"
[programming]|16:17 GDorn asks, "so am I boned completely or is there something I can use to make this even marginally less painful?"
[programming]|16:18 vimes says, "you're boned"
[programming]|16:18 Gunther says, "I would agree that you're boned"
[workplace]|16:18 Allen says, "I have encountered the single worst hold music ever"
[workplace]|16:18 Allen says, "at WebTrends"
[programming]|16:18 vimes says, "i'd approach it from "redo fork's development on refactored code" rather than "redo refactor on forked code", probably"
[workplace]|16:18 Allen says, "it's more a little motif. It goes up a tritone, then drops a 5th"
[cars]|16:19 Steve says, "Had to get the valve stem on one of my tired replaced"
[programming]|16:19 GDorn says, "hahahaha"
[programming]|16:19 vimes says, "i mean, i'd quit, probably, but"
[cars]|16:19 Steve says, "It has a TPMS sensor in it, so the tire place wanted to charge me $63"
[workplace]|16:19 Allen says, "and then someone comes on different, each time, saying "Hi!" (pause) I'm so and so and I'd like to tell you about our new service/feature/paradrigm/etc"
[programming]|16:19 vimes says, "or in fact just say "no" a bunch"
[DustWorld]|16:19 DavidW says, "ugh. Just went through a maddening phone call to update my address with Revenue Canada. The agent totally thought I was female with a baby crying in the background."
[workplace]|16:19 Allen says, "each time you think you've finally been connected"
[programming]|16:19 Gunther says, "force-merge the fork back into the trunk, delete the repo history, THEN quit"
[programming]|16:19 vimes says, "hee hee"
[cars]|16:19 Steve says, "I took it to the dealer, because I had a $100 credit for free service because they're trying to entice me to buy a new car"
[programming]|16:19 GDorn says, "snork"
[cars]|16:19 Steve says, "But the issue turned out to be warranty, so it was free and I still have my $100"
[cars]|16:20 Gunther says, "woo"
[programming]|16:21 GDorn says, "it's a tossup as to which approach would be more work - applying the changes to the fork or re-fork from base and re-apply the fork's history."
[programming]|16:22 GDorn says, "given that the changes are about 20k lines touched, yeah, I'm completely boned."
[cars]|16:24 Steve says, "It took them like 90 minutes, which seemed excessive"
[TV]|16:24 Tale says, "Holy Moses! I just saw a penis on an American TV Show"
[TV]|16:24 Tale says, "(The Wire S2E1)"
[booze]|16:25 Allen | http://imgur.com/gUAUG
[TV]|16:25 Gunther says, "HBO"
[TV]|16:25 Gunther says, "you should watch Oz"
[TV]|16:25 Tale says, "DVD"
[TV]|16:25 Gunther says, "so many penises."
[TV]|16:25 Gunther says, "and rape."
[TV]|16:25 Jota says, "Yeah, premium cable channels are allowed to show pretty much anything that a movie can."
[TV]|16:26 Gunther says, "yes, HBO is a cable TV company, they can do whatever they want"
[TV]|16:26 Jota says, "The prohibitions on nudity and such are mainly for broadcast stations."
[TV]|16:28 Steve says, "Cable TV, even basic cable, has none of the local broadcast prohibitions that broadcast TV has"
[TV]|16:28 Steve says, "Er, legal, not local"
[TV]|16:28 Steve says, "It's up to the channel to decide what to air, and since most channels have advertisers, in effect it's up to them"
[booze]|16:29 inky says, "hooray"
[lounge]|16:30 vaporware thinks the long-term unemployed will just give up looking for a job, and take to traveling the country on railway cars seeking odd jobs in exchange for a can of hobo beans.
[comics]|16:30 inky says, "this reminds me I had a dream about a batman adventure last night"
[TV]|16:30 Tale says, "okay, I didn't really know that. Most American TV I saw was tame"
[TV]|16:30 Tale says, "And GoT only had female nudity"
[TV]|16:30 Gunther says (to Tale), "I do believe there was a big helping of Hodong."
[TV]|16:31 Gunther says, "also that one crazy guy in S1"
[TV]|16:31 Steve says, "Yeah, American TV is usually pretty tame, even on pay TV, because they don't want to offend people who might write letters or whatever."
[comics]|16:31 inky says, "I don't remember much of it but the main antagonists were these four color-themed spirits (blue, orange, violet, and green) who were agents for some cthulthoid external force"
[TV]|16:32 Gunther says, "fortunately people's letters are now <= 140 characters"
[TV]|16:32 Gunther says, "peoples'"
[TV]|16:32 Gunther says, "people's"
[TV]|16:33 Gunther says, "I don't even know"
[comics]|16:33 inky says, "the lead-in is a guy is found dead with a cellphone where the call log shows it only receives one call a year and didn't receive one this year, and batman deduces this means it it is some kind of dead man's switch thing"
[TV]|16:33 Gunther says, "it's too hot"
[TV]|16:33 Steve says, "My understanding is that since the broadcast airwaves are part of the natural spectrum, that means they're a natural resource owned by the people, and so the government on the people's behalf can regulate its content."
[comics]|16:33 zarf says, "mighty phnglui power ..."
[comics]|16:33 inky says, "(and I think the guy let the spirits out in response to not receiving the message and then they ate his face)"
[comics]|16:33 inky says, "unfortunately that is all I remember so I don't know how batman deals with evil spirits"
[comics]|16:33 inky says, "not by punching, I guess"
[TV]|16:33 Steve says, "Cable, on the other hand, is something that the companies pay to provide and individuals pay to consume, so the FCC can't control that content.  This is, of course, excluding obscenity, which is not free speech"
[TV]|16:36 vaporware says, "And which is defined as whatever offends some judge."
[TV]|16:36 Steve says, "And so that falls under the 'I know it when I see it' definition, yeah"
[TV]|16:43 Tale asks, "So how do they get away with nudity?"
[TV]|16:45 inky says, "it's artistic"
[TV]|16:47 maga says, "because judges are mostly straight guys"
[TV]|16:48 Tale says, "heh"
[politics]|16:48 boucher says, "Well, I have some faith in humanity, at least.  Even if only for appearances, everyone is running as fast as possible away from Akin, even those who 'support' his positions."
[lounge]|16:49 borowski comes here everyday to talk to butterflies and say stuff to them.
[lounge]|16:49 * borowski has disconnected.
[politics]|16:49 boucher says, "ven being seen in the same room as him is seen as political poison now."
[videogames]|16:51 Gunther says, " http://www.giantbomb.com/tokyo-jungle/61-32532/ "
[politics]|16:51 baf says, "See, this is how the liberal media suppresses dissent."
[comics]|16:52 Jota says, "I am curious who was supposed to make the call, and why it was set up that way."
[politics]|16:52 maga asks, "#tasteless so Republicans are calling for him to withdraw, but they don't really mean it?"
[comics]|16:52 Jota says, "Perhaps the spell that bound them had to be renewed each year, and he was able to perform the spoken part of it over the phone."
[politics]|16:52 inky says, "aie"
[comics]|16:53 inky says, "oh, hunh, that is an interesting take"
[comics]|16:53 inky says, "I had been assuming it was like, evil sorcerer guy gets arrested and put in anti-sorcerer cell, so he just smiles and waits for the year to expire and his minion to go into action"
[comics]|16:54 inky says, "but doing it only once a year isn't really great for a dead man's switch kind of deal"
[comics]|16:55 Jota says, "In that case, I assume that Batman deals with it by punching the sorcerer."
[comics]|16:56 inky says, "good point"
[comics]|16:56 Gunther says (to Jota), "then the minion"
[kickstarter]|16:56 Gunther says, "nice. http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/692213374/the-porthole "
[comics]|16:56 inky says, "the minion is the dead one"
[comics]|16:56 inky says, "but I guess dead guys are just easier to punch"
[politics]|16:56 olethros says, "ha ha ha"
[comics]|16:56 Gunther says, "if it moves, punch it"
[comics]|16:56 Gunther says, "if it doesn't move, punch it, so it doesn't move later"
[grr]|16:57 olethros says, "moths"
[comics]|16:57 Jota asks, "Wait, how is the dead man's switch supposed to trigger the minion to go into action, if the switch just releases spirits who'll eat the minion's face?"
[grr]|16:57 olethros says, "they seem to be infesting one particular cupboard, but I cannot find where their cucoons are"
[grr]|16:58 olethros says, "I put a lot of traps, and only one of them catches any"
[grr]|16:58 olethros says, "(in the top part of that cupboard)"
[grr]|16:58 olethros says, "I probably also need some outdoor traps"
[grr]|16:59 olethros says, "laser moth quiller"
[comics]|16:59 Jota says, "Unless the 'action' he is looking for is screaming 'AAAAUGH MY FACE OH GOD I SHOULD NEVER HAVE LET THE MASTER GET ARRESTED I'M SORRY I'M SORRY I'M URRHGGHHLE ARGH EEEAGH<thud>'"
[grr]|16:59 olethros says, "*killer"
[comics]|16:59 inky says, "oh, sorry, I meant, the minion was told "if you don't get a call from me on <date> each year, open the doors marked DO NOT OPEN""
[diet]|16:59 olethros says, "I am now <80kg"
[diet]|16:59 olethros says, "hooray for holidays"
[comics]|16:59 Jota asks (of inky), "Which... releases the minion-face-eating spirits?"
[comics]|16:59 Gunther says, "man, you need a minion who is dumb enough to not get bored/killed/arrested for a year, but smart enough to remember that for a year"
[comics]|17:00 Gunther says, "this entire plan is doomed"
[comics]|17:00 inky says (to Jota), "yeah, things never turn out well for minions"
[comics]|17:00 inky says, "hee hee"
[comics]|17:00 Jota asks, "I guess at that point, the minion is basically just an expendable garage door remote?"
[comics]|17:00 inky says, "yeah"
[comics]|17:00 inky says, "that said, your original idea about him having to repeat the binding each year seems like it might make more sense"
[grr]|17:01 olethros says, "they seem to be food moths rather than clothes moths, though I cannot be certain"
[diet]|17:01 inky asks, "you *lose* weight when on vacation?"
[grr]|17:01 olethros says, "the only worm and cocoon I found was on a kitchen glove"
[diet]|17:01 olethros says, "sure"
[diet]|17:01 olethros says, "unless it's a vacation to the US"
[diet]|17:01 inky says, "ha ha"
[diet]|17:02 olethros says, "seriously, the only available entertainment seems to be FOOD"
[diet]|17:02 inky asks, "what about state fairs?"
[grr]|17:02 Gunther says, "it's IN YOUR FLOUR"
[diet]|17:02 olethros asks, "guns and food?"
[diet]|17:02 inky says, "ha ha"
[diet]|17:02 Jota says (to inky), "Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. A normal vacation sucks time and matter into your body. Olethros' vacation returns it."
[grr]|17:02 olethros says, "the flour has been cast away"
[diet]|17:03 olethros says, "possibly I lost some muscle mass from lack of weight training in the last 3 weeks"
[grr]|17:03 olethros says, "the cupboard is already empty"
[grr]|17:03 Gunther says, "flamethrower"
[grr]|17:03 olethros says, "I put all the suspect but still useful to have foods in tupperwear"
[diet]|17:03 inky says (to Jota), "hooray"
[grr]|17:03 olethros says, "and then put those in plastic bags"
[diet]|17:04 olethros asks, "do I only blow inky's time and matter out?"
[diet]|17:04 olethros asks, "if so, are we entangled?"
[diet]|17:05 olethros says, "I think one reason I lose weight is that I only eat when I am quite hungry and I am a bit stingy with my money"
[diet]|17:05 olethros says, "(yes, I did not help to save greece this year)"
[diet]|17:06 inky says, "ha ha"
[history]|17:06 olethros says, "now, trotsky was an interesting fella"
[seattle]|17:07 Steve says, "OK, so I guess we have to figure out what time is best for people to meet on Sunday"
[grr]|17:07 baf says, "I had a housemate who liked to keep flour in the fridge. Not because it needed to be kept cold, but because the fridge is airtight, and therefore bugtight."
[headlines]|17:07 Allen | Why the Amish Population Is Exploding
[seattle]|17:07 Steve says, "Let me look at my hotel check-in time"
[headlines]|17:07 olethros says, "sexual frustration"
[grr]|17:07 olethros says, "cereal is also a ticking time bomb"
[grr]|17:08 olethros says, "not sure about things like cocoa powder and sugar"
[grr]|17:08 olethros says, "or ... chili and spices"
[grr]|17:08 olethros says, "I guess these might be mexican moths"
[seattle]|17:08 Steve says, "OK, 3 PM.  So let's say that I'm free any time after then."
[grr]|17:08 zarf says, "I have heard of paprika getting moth-infested"
[grr]|17:09 zarf says, "the grubs came out bright red"
[grr]|17:09 olethros says, "ha ha"
[grr]|17:09 zarf says, "but yes, they're stupidly tenacious and will get into tupperware"
[seattle]|17:09 Steve asks (of inky), "So what do you think would work best for you?"
[grr]|17:10 olethros says, "we probably need to throw everything out and live off the fridge for a couple of months"
[seattle]|17:10 inky says, "I dunno, you want to say 6pm? I assume you'll want to eat a little on the early side"
[kitties]|17:11 Allen | How to Tell an Elephant From a Cat? Check the Larynx
[grr]|17:11 olethros asks, "aren't those jars with clasps airtight?"
[grr]|17:11 zarf says, "it is not a problem I've had to deal with myself, so I don't know"
[juxtaposition]|17:12 inky | [kitties] Allen | How to Tell an Elephant From a Cat? Check the Larynx
[juxtaposition]|17:12 inky | [grr] zarf says, "it is not a problem I've had to deal with myself, so I don't know"
[grr]|17:12 olethros says, "and I suppose screw-tops must be (more) airtight (than tupperware)"
[grr]|17:13 Gunther says, "seems like you should just throw everything out"
[seattle]|17:13 Steve says, "Sure.  That fine by me."
[juxtaposition]|17:13 olethros says, "hee"
[comics]|17:13 K-Y says, "wait a minute"
[juxtaposition]|17:13 olethros says, "funny how I am now trained to read interleaved channels"
[comics]|17:13 K-Y asks, "do you actually *see* Batman in this dream?"
[LotR]|17:13 olethros says, "ok back to lol of the rings"
[headlines]|17:13 Gunther | Semen's Secret Ingredient
[seattle]|17:14 Steve asks, "I'm expecting to get in at 12:30 at the airport, make it on the train into town by maybe 2.  Kill time til I can check in, and then it's all good.  Do we need a reservation, or is it just a place where you show up?"
[comics]|17:14 K-Y says, "because Pac-Man sounds similar"
[headlines]|17:14 vimes says, "must be Folger's Crystals"
[seattle]|17:14 inky says, "yeah, it's just a show-up place"
[comics]|17:14 inky says, "ha ha"
[grr]|17:14 olethros says, "oh I guess moths also like paper"
[comics]|17:14 inky says, "good point"
[seattle]|17:16 * NewsBoy hollers, "Extra! Extra! Steve has posted message 154, about 'Proposed time for dinner', to the bulletin board! All the news that's fit to monkey!"
[comics]|17:17 olethros recaps
[comics]|17:18 olethros asks, "then pacman is on the phone with ms pacman. Then she does not call, he gets depressed and lets the ghosts eat him ?"
[comics]|17:20 olethros says, "I am not sure which is nuttier - inky's dream, or this comic, as a batman comic"
[board-games]|17:25 Gunther says (to GDorn), "additional update: if you don't want Tits you'll get stuff worth $25, probably, instead"
[grr]|17:26 olethros says, "huh bay leaves can kill/repel insects"
[grr]|17:26 Allen says, "what about mint? Breathe breathe merry mint / and you shall see nary an ant"
[obits]|17:27 DavidW says, "aw man, Phyllis Diller."
[grr]|17:27 Gunther says (to Allen), "stop quoting Tom Bombadil"
[hate]|17:28 olethros says, "speaking of rape, galloway plummets into the fray, clumsily defending assange"
[hate]|17:28 olethros | not everybody needs to be asked prior to each insertion
[hate]|17:28 olethros says, "I dont know, I make a point of asking"
[hate]|17:29 olethros asks, "HOW DO YOU LIKE THIS? DO YOU WANT MORE??"
[board-games]|17:29 Gunther says, "also I hope it's OK to hate this for the name:"
[hate]|17:29 vaporware says, "That's a great way to double your database traffic."
[board-games]|17:29 Gunther | Super Dungeon Explore: Caverns of Roxor
[hate]|17:29 olethros says, "or whatever else is said in english"
[hate]|17:31 Tale says, "That sounds more like a serial killer beating someone up."
[hate]|17:31 Tale says, "But I guess whatever does it for you."
[hate]|17:31 olethros asks, "hmmm ok how is the phrase in german?"
[hate]|17:31 Tale asks, "Moechtest du etwas Sauerkraut in deinem Wiener Schnitzel?"
[hate]|17:32 olethros says, "german sexual organs must be very strange looking and smelling"
[hate]|17:32 Gunther says, "ha ha what"
[hate]|17:33 Gunther says, "the german phrase is, of course: "Ab neune geht er eine / mit zwa gehts a... aber schwar""
[hate]|17:33 Gunther says, "now to hope this is codified such that nobody understands it"
[hate]|17:34 olethros asks, "it's a billiards simile?"
[hate]|17:34 Gunther says, "sure, why nit"
[hate]|17:34 Gunther says, "not"
[apropos-of-nothing]|17:35 olethros says, "now that there is a bald barbie, will there be an alien barbie? They only have to change the colour."
[hate]|17:36 Tale says (to gunther), "!!!"
[ads]|17:36 * Jon has joined the channel.
[ads]|17:36 Jon says, "office depot banner ad, saying only 'we sell stamps'"
[ads]|17:37 Jon says, "good job, guys"
[apropos-of-nothing]|17:37 olethros asks, "so, what does it mean?"
[ads]|17:37 Jon says, "good job"
[hate]|17:37 olethros asks, "so, what does it mean?"
[hate]|17:37 Gunther says (to Tale), "nice try"
[hate]|17:38 Tale says (to gunther), "Well, I googled it"
[hate]|17:39 olethros says, "oh I forget that germans also use the web"
[hate]|17:40 Gunther says, "let's just say it's extremely offensive"
[hate]|17:40 Tale says, "Yeah, let's not delve to deep into that issue"
[hate]|17:41 olethros says, "see channel name"
[hate]|17:41 Gunther says (to Tale), "oooh dear"
[hate]|17:42 Tale says, "And with that, I'm off to bed"
[hate]|17:42 Tale says, "(alone)"
[lounge]|17:42 Tale leaves, shouting : "Screw this! I've only got 14 hit points!"
[lounge]|17:42 * Tale has disconnected.
[exercise]|17:42 Allen says, "everytime I see P90X I think of the pentium-90 proc"
[drinks]|17:42 Allen says, "mmmm! delicious fruity floor cleaner: http://i.imgur.com/lRbFg.jpg "
[exercise]|17:42 olethros says, "I wonder if paul ryan's plan is to make a lot of money promoting p90x and then retiring to the bahamas"
[drinks]|17:43 olethros says, "feh"
[exercise]|17:43 olethros says, "oh, today I realised: I _hate_ leg press machines"
[drinks]|17:43 Gunther says, "wow"
[exercise]|17:43 olethros says, "the movement is so weird. They take up all this space, which could more usefully be employed for a squat rack"
[drinks]|17:43 Gunther says, "dangerous"
[exercise]|17:44 olethros says, "the knees are really brought very very close to the chest"
[drinks]|17:46 Allen says, "fortunately, this statement proves it's not all that dangerous:"
[drinks]|17:46 Allen | Fabuloso is a household cleaning product that is a minor gastrointestinal irritant and unlikely to cause any major morbidity or mortality.
[exercise]|17:46 olethros says, "is minor morbidity like being a little pregnant"
[drinks]|17:46 olethros says, "is minor morbidity like being a little pregnant"
[drinks]|17:48 inky says, "ha ha"
[lounge]|17:53 jess doesn't want a large Farva.  She wants a goddamn liter of cola!
[lounge]|17:54 Gunther, Geoffrey, and Shamino all represented various aspects of Garriott: his ego, his ego, and his ego, respectively
[housing]|17:57 Allen | http://www.reddit.com/tb/xoggy
[ads]|18:01 Jota asks, "What's wrong with that?"
[ads]|18:02 Jota asks, "Do you want to mention their rates as well?"
[housing]|18:03 olethros says, "now I want my fridge to tweet me"
[brewing]|18:07 GDorn asks, "what yeast should I use for cider?"
[brewing]|18:08 GDorn says, "just realized I have time to hit up the brewing supply store on the way home from work"
[brewing]|18:08 olethros says, "I guess they'd know"
[brewing]|18:08 Allen says, "most people use a dry champagne yeast, I think"
[brewing]|18:08 olethros asks, "cider vs apfelwein??"
[brewing]|18:09 GDorn asks, "like Redstar?"
[brewing]|18:09 olethros says, " http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f32/results-juice-yeast-sugar-experiments-83060/ "
[brewing]|18:09 olethros says, "maybe this will help"
[brewing]|18:10 olethros says, "dunno what redstar is, but apfelwein is a type of cider brewed in the frankfurt region"
[brewing]|18:10 GDorn says, "hmm.  apparently champagne yeast will make it very dry, but I sorta like dry."
[brewing]|18:11 olethros | Red Star - Cotes de Blanc ? I just tried this with pasteurized, unsweetened juice. It left a real bland, buttery taste
[brewing]|18:12 GDorn says, "ick"
[brewing]|18:12 GDorn says, "yeah, I've heard bad things about Red Star in general, but that clears that one up"
[brewing]|18:13 olethros says, "damn there are so many yeasts"
[brewing]|18:13 GDorn says, "I generally like the results I get making beer with various Safale dry yeasts, so maybe S-04 is a good option."
[brewing]|18:13 GDorn says, "yeah, and the dry yeast market has gotten a lot more varied in recent years.  used to be you had like four options for dry yeast and a few dozen liquid yeasts."
[brewing]|18:13 olethros says, "for apfelwein, Montrachet seems to be the top pick"
[brewing]|18:15 GDorn says, "that's the other one I've heard bad things about, but maybe the fruity flavors it imparts go well with cider"
[videogames]|18:16 Fang says, "wow, chess vs battle http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/08/20/impressions-battle-vs-chess/#more-120890 "
[videogames]|18:16 Fang | It gets even sillier when it?s the computer trying to take one of your pieces, and you can defend against it. Winning, which is relatively easy despite the arrows occasionally gathering some decent pace, means you get to have as many goes in a row as you win for. So want to take your opponent?s queen? Line up your bishop in her path, defend against her attack, and then take her. Genius. These sections play out in a cute (if crude) fighting game setting, two energy bars atop the screen, with animations playing out attacks. It?s properly silly in concept, utterly daft in a chess setting, and best of all, delivered with a perfectly straight face. And that?s the most sensible mode.
[brewing]|18:17 GDorn says, "still slightly worried about exploding bottles."
[videogames]|18:17 Fang | ?You control one piece supported by several chessmen while the opponent also has a number of combatants (depending on the piece and its current HP). The goal is to destroy all enemies. The character you control may move, make quick attack, strong attack, block and dodge.
[brewing]|18:17 GDorn says, "I mean, I want it carbonated, but not explodey."
[videogames]|18:17 Psmith says, "huh. I saw that on Steam, and assumed it was a straight Battle Chess update. That sounds... wacky."
[brewing]|18:18 GDorn says, "I guess if the apples aren't super-sweet and I'm not augmenting with extra sugar, it'll ferment until it runs out of sugar, then I add priming sugar and bottle just like it was a beer"
[videogames]|18:18 baf says, "I read its description and tried to figure out if it was a straight Battle Chess or not but couldn't find any definite evidence either way."
[videogames]|18:19 McMartin says, "That sounds more like Archon"
[videogames]|18:19 olethros says, "no"
[videogames]|18:19 olethros says, "it is chess, where there is a battle when a piece attacks another"
[brewing]|18:19 Allen says, "apples ferment pretty completely I think"
[videogames]|18:19 olethros says, "and you can influence it by bashing the keyboard"
[brewing]|18:19 Allen says, "most of the big commercial varieties pasteurize before it finishes"
[videogames]|18:19 Fang says, "it's utter madness"
[brewing]|18:20 GDorn asks, "presumably to retain sugars?"
[videogames]|18:20 Fang | It?s even weirder than that sounds. It?s an extremely frantic mode in which you?re trying to control a character in a 3D fight, awkwardly using keyboard controls, while the AI is in charge of both the enemy and the rest of your team, pretty much deciding the battle around you. As you confusedly stumble around trying to hit something, you pause and think about the great and noble ancient game, and how many hundreds of generations before you have locked intellects to compete across this chequered board.
[brewing]|18:20 GDorn says, "but then they force carbonate, which I don't want to do."
[brewing]|18:20 Allen says, "yeah, to make it sweet"
[brewing]|18:21 Allen says, "those low-alcohol ciders, when homemade, are often very dry"
[brewing]|18:21 olethros says, "you could always mix some juice and cider in opst"
[brewing]|18:21 GDorn says, "yeah, if people want it sweet, they can always throw a teaspoon of sugar -"
[brewing]|18:21 GDorn says, "yeah, that"
[brewing]|18:21 olethros says, "and some soda!"
[brewing]|18:22 GDorn says, "maybe a shot of whiskey"
[brewing]|18:22 GDorn says, "or mead.  or both."
[brewing]|18:23 olethros says, "let's take this to #cocktails"
[brewing]|18:23 olethros says, "(or .... #mixology brr)"
[brewing]|18:24 GDorn says, "gotta make the cider before we can drink the cider"
[brewing]|18:24 GDorn says, "with my brewing luck lately, we will end up with five gallons of apple cider"
[brewing]|18:24 GDorn says, "er, heh."
[brewing]|18:24 GDorn says, "I meant apple vinegar."
[brewing]|18:24 olethros says, "oh ok ."
[brewing]|18:25 olethros says, "a useful household detergent!"
[brewing]|18:25 GDorn says, "apparently pasteurizing the cider _increases_ the chances of vinegar..."
[brewing]|18:25 GDorn says, "I mean, pasteurizing before pitching."
[brewing]|18:25 Allen says, "this book is recommended by the way: http://www.amazon.com/Cider-Making-Using-Enjoying-Edition/dp/1580175201 "
[brewing]|18:25 Allen says, "it has everything on the subject"
[brewing]|18:26 Allen says, "including, if you want, planting your own cider trees for making down the line"
[brewing]|18:26 Allen says, "also, laws on commercially selling in US and Canada"
[brewing]|18:26 GDorn says, "we already have apple trees"
[brewing]|18:26 Allen says, "hmm, the reviews aren't that great, on the top. But I liked it a whole lot"
[brewing]|18:27 GDorn says, "I bought a press and have been building a grinder which I might be finished with tonight."
[videogames]|18:27 K-Y asks, "does it acually sound playable?"
[HarryPotter]|18:28 Jon | http://www.tor.com/images/stories/blogs/12_08/bane-takes-over-hogwarts.jpg
[HarryPotter]|18:28 Jon says, "I would watch this movie."
[lounge]|18:31 Firion enters, the words MUD LIFE freshly tattooed across his chest.
[lounge]|18:34 Johnny says, "Hey Firion"
[lounge]|18:36 Firion says, "hi"
[obits]|18:37 Johnny says, "I wonder what kind of joke Phyllis Diller would've had about her death."
[brewing]|18:38 olethros says, "wow"
[lounge]|18:43 olethros says, "I guess sleeping may be a good idea right now"
[lounge]|18:43 olethros has ordered three mega-generators to be installed in his boathouse.
[Hugo]|18:45 Ellison asks, "the kind of abuse-y thing I'm working on today is a CYOA thing where I'm pretty much throwing out the parser. I still was using some hugolib routines, though, so I wanted to include that. originally, though, my CYOA options were letters (A,B,C,D). this got confused by hugolib's declaration as "a" as a removal, though. anyone know of a way to un-declare something like that?"
[Hugo]|18:47 Johnny asks, "Isn't there a line in the library?"
[Hugo]|18:47 Johnny says, "Or you could put it in the dictionary."
[Hugo]|18:47 Ellison says, "yeah. I mean, without altering hugolib manually."
[webgames]|18:58 Johnny says, "Huh"
[webgames]|18:58 Johnny | http://www.bartnijland.nl/typing-pixels
[webgames]|18:58 Johnny says, "Not too notable, but some letters randomly spelled GRUE."
[webgames]|18:58 Johnny says, "Then I died and lost all interest."
[webgames]|19:00 inky asks, "so did the grue kill you or what?"
[webgames]|19:00 Johnny says, "The game takes place in the dark cold of space inky, what do you think."
[webgames]|19:01 Johnny says, "(I think technically a Z killed me.)"
[webgames]|19:02 McMartin says, "This sounds more like MasterType"
[lounge]|19:07 K-Y's apocalyptic flotsam included the emergence of figures of such dazzling dementia as to momentarily mesmerize even thinking people.
[lounge]|19:07 K-Y says, "re"
[lounge]|19:07 * K-Y has disconnected.
[lounge]|19:07 * K-Y has connected.
[lounge]|19:13 Fang is told of the death of Christ, and becomes so angry that the brain bursts from his head, and he dies. The blood from the wound baptises him as a Christian, and his soul goes to heaven.
[videogames]|19:14 vaporware says, "heh, back in the day I showed my friend Battle Chess and he wondered why he couldn't fight back. They finally made it happen."
[videogames]|19:16 Firion asks, "Wha?"
[videogames]|19:17 Firion asks, "Didn't that happen awhile before BC with Archon?"
[jobs]|19:17 (from Jon) Jon says, "Candidate did not use the One True Brace Style. No hire."
[comics]|19:22 Allen says, "catpath!"
[comics]|19:22 Allen | http://nebezial.deviantart.com/gallery/?catpath=/#/d5aon2q
[jobs]|19:22 inky says, "I've started trying the 'brace on same line as if' style, and it is working pretty well, but it looks weird when the if statement wraps to a new line"
[jobs]|19:25 vimes says, "solution: do all your boolean logic outside the if itself, then do if (combined_logical_result) {"
[jobs]|19:25 Jon says, "hooray"
[jobs]|19:26 Jon says, "actually, this candidate has committed worse sins. picked ']' as a delimeter, then looked for '[' to split things on when parsing."
[jobs]|19:27 Jon says, "also, put the delimiter at the end of the concatenated string, not in between the parts."
[jobs]|19:27 Jon says, "good job there"
[jobs]|19:27 inky says, "yeah, and I guess the equivalent for function declarations is to use fewer arguments"
[jobs]|19:28 vimes says, "function foo(argument_hashmap) {"
[jobs]|19:28 vimes says, "(don't do that)"
[jobs]|19:28 Jon says, "def foo(*args, **kwargs)"
[board-games]|19:34 GDorn says (to Gunther), "huh, they got back to me with the exact opposite answer"
[board-games]|19:34 GDorn says, "oh, he's not logged in"
[jobs]|19:34 GDorn asks, "what are braces?"
[health]|19:35 Johnny says, "Someone in my tumblrstream(?)^W^W^W on my dashboard shared this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUyMNyrOHJQ "
[jobs]|19:35 Jon says (to GDorn), "the { and } in C-like languages"
[health]|19:35 Johnny says, "It's a drummer giving some stretches for RSI and stuff."
[jobs]|19:35 GDorn says, "I was being deliberately obtuse.  Also, I do braces-on-the-same-line."
[jobs]|19:36 GDorn says, "well, for the opening brace.  closing brace on its own line, obviously."
[jobs]|19:39 Jon says, "that is the one true style"
[jobs]|19:40 GDorn says, "oh, okay."
[jobs]|19:40 GDorn asks, "what did the candidate do?  opening brace on own line?"
[jobs]|19:41 GDorn says, "also, one of my predecessors does this:   function myfuncname ($arg) {"
[jobs]|19:41 inky asks, "with the space, you mean?"
[jobs]|19:41 GDorn says, "yeah"
[jobs]|19:42 Jon says (to GDorn), "yeah, on its own line"
[jobs]|19:42 GDorn says, "also does it with function calls inside the class, like   $this->myfuncname ($myarg);"
[jobs]|19:42 inky says, "not a fan"
[jobs]|19:42 GDorn says, "yeah, if I ever run into him, I'm going to add some extra spaces to him with a knife."
[jobs]|19:43 inky says, "though I do prefer "if (foo)" to "if(foo)""
[jobs]|19:43 inky says, "and didn't realize until recently that that is inconsistent"
[jobs]|19:43 GDorn says, "eh.  I'm on the fence for that one.  I don't really care either way."
[religion]|19:43 Allen | A Christian girl with Down's syndrome has been arrested and charged with blasphemy in Pakistan for allegedly burning pages containing Islamic text. According to the Express Tribune, an English language newspaper in Pakistan, the 11-year-old was beaten last week after locals in her village near Islamabad saw her burning pages inscribed with Islamic text.
[jobs]|19:43 GDorn says, "I mean, 'if' isn't exactly a function call, it's a language construct, and whatever."
[iPhone]|19:44 Jon says, "seeing ads for this yet-to-be-launched kickstarter on Facebook"
[iPhone]|19:44 Jon says, "for a new iphone case"
[iPhone]|19:44 Jon | http://i.imgur.com/1JZNx.jpg
[religion]|19:44 inky says, "oog"
[jobs]|19:44 Allen says, "oh, you'll hate what I do"
[iPhone]|19:44 Jon says, "apparently the idea is this stores your keys and spare change"
[iPhone]|19:44 Jon asks, "and also does not fit in your pocket?"
[jobs]|19:44 Allen says, "I do if( --- ) { and for( ... ) {"
[jobs]|19:44 GDorn asks, "you mean spaces inside the parens?"
[iPhone]|19:44 inky says, "ha ha"
[jobs]|19:44 Allen says, "yeah"
[religion]|19:44 Jon asks, "it was a catechism-type book, right?"
[jobs]|19:44 Allen says, "and no space before the construct and the opening paren"
[jobs]|19:45 GDorn says, "eh, doesn't bug me as much as a dangling paren."
[iPhone]|19:45 Jon says, "I bet Gunther will love it."
[jobs]|19:45 Allen says, "EXCEPT when I'm writing official company code that gets checked into the repository, and then I follow the company style guide"
[jobs]|19:46 inky says, "ha ha"
[iPhone]|19:46 K-Y says, "I'm waiting for the one covered in ornamental spikes to get Kickstartered"
[iPhone]|19:46 K-Y says, "and fully funded"
[jobs]|19:46 Allen says, "if I'm writing sysadmin scripts, I follow my quirky individual style"
[jobs]|19:47 Jon asks, "in Pike, yes?"
[jobs]|19:47 Allen says, "yeah"
[jobs]|19:47 (from Jon) Jon says, "stop that."
[jobs]|19:47 Allen says, "the company style guide if pretty good. It has different standards for languages with a unix background from windows background"
[jobs]|19:48 Allen says, "unix-associated languages get to put a bracket at the end of the line, after the closing parens of a control structure. Windows languages have to put it on a new line. HA HA"
[jobs]|19:48 inky says, "ha ha"
[politics]|19:52 mwmiller | One of my very first proto-political thoughts was that Reagan was bad because he wanted to take away Big Bird.
[jobs]|19:52 vimes says, "irta "put a brisket at the end", which suggests it's time for dinner"
[politics]|19:53 Johnny says, "Also actor <=> politician doesn't tend to go well."
[politics]|19:53 Jon says, "that doesn't bode well for Obama's film career."
[politics]|19:53 Johnny says, "You end up with a brundlefly."
[jobs]|19:54 inky says, "ha ha  more"
[politics]|19:58 Allen says (to Johnny), "huh, I didn't know you hated Al Franken"
[politics]|19:58 mwmiller exclaims, "Franken's a *comedian*. Totally different!"
[politics]|19:59 Johnny says, "He's Frankenstein."
[politics]|19:59 Johnny says, "(Mostly because of the name.)"
[amazon]|20:02 K-Y says, "more MP3 credits, but restricted usage"
[lounge]|20:03 inky says, "ok I give up on t oday"
[lounge]|20:03 inky has already funded a $2000 Uhaul rental to transport a triceratops skeleton from Wyoming to Seattle, as well as a penguin-tagging project.
[amazon]|20:03 K-Y asks, "what do they sell for $5.99?"
[amazon]|20:04 Allen says, "crappy 70s rock bands"
[amazon]|20:04 K-Y says, "no, I checked"
[amazon]|20:04 Allen asks, "isn't here a page for 'current 99 albums' or something?"
[amazon]|20:04 K-Y says, "those are for $5.00"
[amazon]|20:04 Allen says, "er, 99 cents"
[amazon]|20:05 Allen says, "add 5 of them together, save your remaining 4 cents for something else"
[amazon]|20:05 K-Y says, "it has to be one album for at least $5.99"
[amazon]|20:05 K-Y says, "also, if you have 4 cents left over in these promotional credits they cleverly make it vaporize"
[amazon]|20:07 K-Y says, "I did recently buy something awesome for $5.99, but that was in order to use the free credits before the *last* round of free credits"
[lounge]|20:10 Gerynar enters the lounge but is facing the wrong way. After a couple minutes of staring at the wall, he turns around.
[lounge]|20:11 jenrexrode has entered the lounge. [ Your score has gone up by 10 points ]
[lounge]|20:11 Gerynar has learned his lesson and will not buy no-name, cheap-o hard-drives. He has lost most all his info from his linux partition :(
[lounge]|20:11 jenrexrode says, "hi"
[lounge]|20:13 Ellison says, "hey Gerynar"
[lounge]|20:13 Gerynar says, "Howdy all"
[amazon]|20:13 K-Y says, "interestingly, this month they seem to be re-$5ing a bunch of their $5 albums from over the last year"
[lounge]|20:14 Gerynar asks, "So, what's goin' on in the wonderful land of ifMUD?"
[lounge]|20:15 baf says, "The thing you do with no-name cheap-o hard drives is make a RAID out of them."
[lounge]|20:15 Gerynar says, "Not in a cheap laptop"
[amazon]|20:15 K-Y says, "also, they have taken this opportunity to drop some albums down to $5.*4*9"
[lounge]|20:16 Gerynar says, "I think my biggest mistake was formatting the drive with the btrfs file system...the recovery tools for that are practically non-existant"
[lounge]|20:17 Johnny says, "Hi jen and Gerynar"
[lounge]|20:17 Gerynar waves to Johnny
[lounge]|20:18 Johnny continues the wave while flagging down the peanut vendor.
[lounge]|20:18 Johnny catches a pop fly between the eyes.
[lounge]|20:18 Gerynar says, "Good thing it's a whiffle-ball game"
[lounge]|20:19 McMartin says, "Release the dwarven wiffle-mauls"
[lounge]|20:19 baf comes whiffling through the tulgey wood
[lounge]|20:20 zarf says, "burble burble burble"
[lounge]|20:20 jenrexrode says, "hi"
[lounge]|20:22 McMartin shuns the frumious
[GerynarsAbode]|20:23 Gerynar clicks around in his windows partition and realizes that he has an Apple //e emulator still...and has a couple of infocom games
[lounge]|20:23 Johnny says, "Hi baf"
[lounge]|20:23 baf says, "hi"
[GerynarsAbode]|20:24 Johnny says, "Too bad you can't run Infocom games on a OS."
[GerynarsAbode]|20:24 Johnny says, "+modern"
[GerynarsAbode]|20:24 Johnny says, "It was a poor joke anyway :("
[GerynarsAbode]|20:25 Gerynar says, "yeah...but it is more nostalgic this way"
[GerynarsAbode]|20:25 Gerynar says, "I've got it set to green screen just like I had on my real Apple //e growing up"
[GerynarsAbode]|20:27 jenrexrode says, "I've got a whole closet full of that stuff"
[GerynarsAbode]|20:29 Gerynar says, "whoa...I've got AppleWorks....I wonder if I remember how to use it"
[politics]|20:33 mwmiller | I was born in Kansas, I already know what's wrong with it. Not enough trees. I think the grove of cedars in my backyard was our state forest.
[lunch]|20:34 jenrexrode says, "I want a new lunch kit.  the zipper is broken on the old one."
[lunch]|20:35 jenrexrode says, "I almost bought one when I realized it didn't have a shoulder strap.  I can't be bothered with a handle only."
[lunch]|20:38 jenrexrode says, "I saw one in the form of a backpack, but it only came in pink and purple"
[lunch]|20:40 jenrexrode says, "and maybe black.  but black seems kinda heat-gainey for a lunch kit"
[politics]|20:41 Allen says, "FBI denies that they investigated skinny-dipping in the Sea of Galilee"
[urls]|20:41 zarf says, "this video is a silly concept and yet a lot of fun: http://kuwdora.dreamwidth.org/553082.html "
[politics]|20:43 (from McMartin) Allen says, "It was actually Mossad. Jurisdiction issues."
[lunch]|20:46 genericgeekgirl says, "I have a lunch tote from Built that I like a lot. They're pricy, but you can find them new on Ebay for a little less."
[dinner]|20:48 genericgeekgirl says, "Zucchini and garbanzo bean pancakes with tomato sauce (jarred, because I was feeling lazy after making the pancakes)."
[lounge]|20:48 Emily arrives.
[lounge]|20:48 Firion waves to Emily.
[lounge]|20:49 Fang is a veritable smorgasbord of visual variables.
[lounge]|20:49 genericgeekgirl says, "Hi Emily, Fang"
[politics]|20:50 McMartin says, "Oh, I see, they were actually probing one of the Congressmen in question and reports got overexcited"
[lunch]|20:57 jenrexrode says, "wow. lots of Rachel Ray branded stuff at Target"
[lounge]|20:58 maga greets
[lounge]|20:59 Gerynar says "bloop" and shrinks down into a little dot, then winks out...just like those old-fashioned B&w televisions.
[lounge]|20:59 * Gerynar has disconnected.
[lunch]|20:59 jenrexrode says, "there must be a safe place for the banana"
[politics]|21:02 mwmiller | "I guess I really actually feel we shouldn't contort the voting process to accommodate the urban -- read African-American -- voter-turnout machine," Preisse said. "Let's be fair and reasonable."
[politics]|21:03 McMartin says, "*Un*reasonable is burning Atlanta to the ground again"
[dinner]|21:11 Johnny says, "pancakes for dinner? *head explodes*"
[dinner]|21:12 Johnny says, "Sounds interesting."
[lounge]|21:14 Whizzard's name is based on some misunderstanding of a 19th century catalog of 12th century music.
[lounge]|21:14 Whizzard says, "heyo. Home from Gencon."
[lounge]|21:14 Johnny says, "Hey Whiz, Fang, Emily"
[whiz-games]|21:14 Whizzard says, "Now to sleep for a thousand years."
[lounge]|21:27 Whizzard says, "Man, I'm too tired to sleep."
[geekiness]|21:32 genericgeekgirl says, "Finally going through the box of assorted tights and stockings, getting rid of things I may never wear again (lots of costume-y things in there). I apparently own enough garter belts and fishnets to host my own production of Rocky Horror."
[geekiness]|21:32 vimes says, "hee hee"
[geekiness]|21:33 genericgeekgirl says, "I also inexplicably own a single striped stocking. I have vague memories of the other tearing, rather than it just getting misplaced. I'm not really sure why I saved this one."
[lounge]|21:34 Miseri regularly eats multiples of things inky wouldn't eat more than zero of.
[lounge]|21:34 Miseri says, "Arrr"
[geekiness]|21:34 vimes says, "well, some people have very particular fetishes, i suppose"
[urls]|21:40 Jota says, "I wonder if there'll be an orange followup."
[lounge]|21:43 two-star took 30,500 buckets -- why?
[lounge]|21:43 Emily goes home.
[lounge]|21:43 * Emily has disconnected.
[lounge]|21:51 Emily arrives.
[lounge]|21:54 Limax emerges from the camel.
[lounge]|21:58 Whizzard says, "lomax"
[lounge]|21:59 Limax says, "My name is not Charles."
[lounge]|21:59 Limax says, "Hello"
[lounge]|22:01 genericgeekgirl thought of Oscar Lomax first.
[lounge]|22:01 Limax says (to genericgeekgirl), "Sorry... folk songs on the brain for me"
[lounge]|22:06 Emily goes home.
[lounge]|22:06 * Emily has disconnected.
[geekiness]|22:08 Limax says, "I'm going to be in Massachusetts for Labor Day"
[geekiness]|22:11 genericgeekgirl says, "I will not :("
[geekiness]|22:11 genericgeekgirl says, "When are you leaving? I'll be back late Monday."
[geekiness]|22:12 Ellison says (to gg), "are you going to be around for NightFloyd this week? we haven't wanted to finish Heroine's Mantle without you"
[geekiness]|22:12 Limax says, "I'm flying out Wednesday"
[geekiness]|22:12 Limax says, "ALthough I am here right now until THursday"
[geekiness]|22:12 genericgeekgirl says, "Oh. I finished it a few weeks ago, actually.."
[geekiness]|22:13 Limax says, "And then fly back out here on Monday"
[geekiness]|22:13 Ellison says, "ah, ok"
[geekiness]|22:15 genericgeekgirl says, "Ah, neat. I guess I missed dinner on Saturday. Is there anything else planned? I'm freeish this week, other than an interview and prepping for my sister-in-law's arrival, and I appear to be entirely free Monday/Tuesday of Labor Day."
[geekiness]|22:16 genericgeekgirl says, "Honestly, I got kind of pissed off about being literally five minutes away from finishing the game, and having people a) insist that we were going to some random point before that to replay it all and b) not care when I slunk off. And then I went through a two week period (unrelated) of refusing to speak to anyone, and last week I got home late because of PR-IF."
[food]|22:17 boucher | [7:11:02 PM] Tyson Boucher: Then again, my heritage is largely German and French.  You tell me what I'm supposed to like
[food]|22:17 boucher | [7:11:10 PM] Tyson Boucher: Sausage-stuffed frog?
[food]|22:17 boucher | [7:11:19 PM] Tyson Boucher: Vichy-ssoise?
[geekiness]|22:17 genericgeekgirl says, "I'd mostly hoped they'd just finish it so we could move on to something new."
[geekiness]|22:18 Limax nods
[geekiness]|22:18 Ellison says, "yeah, you probably should have let us know"
[geekiness]|22:19 genericgeekgirl says, "Nobody seemed particularly concerned about my opinion previously, so eh."
[food]|22:19 boucher says, "This in response to a friend who has both Japanese and southern African-American heritage noting that both cultures seem to have a stereotypical fondness for watermelon and fried chicken."
[food]|22:20 Allen says, "but one of those cultures prefers their watermelons is an abominable cubille form"
[food]|22:20 Allen says, "cubicle"
[food]|22:22 zarf says, "cubical"
[food]|22:22 zarf says, "I prefer open-plan watermelon, myself"
[geekiness]|22:22 Ellison says, "having already beaten the game, I wasn't paying a whole lot of attention to things on the night that you're talking about. at the same time, though, I remember that end part was a confusing mess when I played through it, and while DavidW might have been optimistic that starting from the beginning of the scene would help much, I can empathize with his frustration. that said, in the nights I *have* been paying attention, it's not always easy to tell you invested you are at the moment. I try to not go on without you, but sometimes it's hard to know if you are still awake."
[food]|22:22 Limax says, "As long as I can spit the seeds, I'm fine"
[geekiness]|22:23 Ellison says, "how"
[geekiness]|22:23 genericgeekgirl says, "Yeah. I'd actually left both the toyshop and the channel, though, in frustration."
[geekiness]|22:23 genericgeekgirl says, "So it wasn't just a case where I'd gone idle."
[geekiness]|22:24 Ellison says, "yeah, guess I missed that"
[geekiness]|22:24 genericgeekgirl says, "So I finished the game the following night and figured they'd start from where they left off. I meant to load things up for them last week and then bow out, but by the time I got home it was a quarter to 11."
[music]|22:26 K-Y says, "ooh, missed the Ultravox reunion album coming out three months ago"
[geekiness]|22:27 Ellison says, "cool, well I'll see what jen and David want to do about it next time they're around. maybe we'll get an impromptu playsession in."
[geekiness]|22:28 genericgeekgirl says, "OK"
[music]|22:29 K-Y says, "oh god, it's been 28 years"
[geekiness]|22:30 genericgeekgirl says, "That said, the nights that I sort of drift off, it's usually out of frustration with everyone, and I decide to emotionally distance myself from it."
[lounge]|22:31 BrenBarn busta.
[lounge]|22:31 genericgeekgirl says, "Hi BB"
[lounge]|22:32 Jota turns into a slimy toad!
[lounge]|22:32 BrenBarn says, "hi"
[food]|22:33 boucher says, "Watermelon always seems like a good idea."
[food]|22:33 boucher says, "Every summer, we go 'Mmm, watermelon!'  Then leave it to spoil"
[food]|22:34 boucher says, "It tends to go more easily if cut up into a fruit salad or something"
[dinner]|22:45 jenrexrode says, "carnitas gordita"
[books]|22:48 Jon says, "I resumed reading Cotillion on the bus ride home. I need a dictionary. Or perhaps a translation."
[lunch]|22:48 jenrexrode says, "picked up a lunch kit at the store.  also got a koozie for  a 12 oz bottle, but I'm gonna use it to protect my bananas"
[books]|22:49 Jon says, "I can make a guess as to what 'an out-and-outer' means, but I have no idea what it is to be a Corinthian"
[books]|22:49 Jon says, "(I'm assuming this English nobleman is not actually from Greece.)"
[lounge]|22:55 Ellison says, "later"
[lounge]|22:55 Ellison goes back to Squeamhurst..
[lounge]|22:55 * Ellison has disconnected.
[lounge]|23:04 ghira wakes
[lounge]|23:05 Marvin buggers off.
[dinner]|23:06 jenrexrode says, "I can't tell that this is really a gordita, and not just 2 soft corn tortillas, because it's not attached on any side"
[dinner]|23:06 jenrexrode says, "not that i've ever had a gordita before..."
[dinner]|23:08 jenrexrode says, "taco bell gorditas don't count"
[dinner]|23:13 ghira googles "gordita". not had one of those, taco bell or otherwise.
[dinner]|23:14 Firion says, "I love the Cheesy Gordita Crunch."
[dinner]|23:14 ghira says, "wiki observes it's in the same sort of niche as the cornish pasty"
[lounge]|23:15 nothings has seen a million lounges, and he's rocked them all.
[dinner]|23:15 jenrexrode asks, "is that the taco wrapped with cheese and a godita?"
[dinner]|23:15 ghira says, "(which wiki claims is "sometimes called a British pasty in the US"? I thought they weren't known as anything in the US)"
[dinner]|23:15 jenrexrode says, "I thought it was more like a gyro than a British anything"
[dinner]|23:16 ghira says, "ok and on taco bell page it looks totally different"
[dinner]|23:16 jenrexrode says, "except it was made from corn masa instead of flour"
[dinner]|23:16 ghira says (to jen), "well I've obviously never had one but the photo on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordita does look sort of pasty-shaped."
[dinner]|23:19 jenrexrode says, "yeah, what I got wasn't like that, it was fried or greasy"
[dinner]|23:19 jenrexrode says, "er wasN'T"
[dinner]|23:20 ghira says, "photo on http://www.tacobell.com/food/gorditas utterly different"
[dinner]|23:20 jenrexrode says, "yeah, the taco bell version is really just a pancake with less sugar"
[urls]|23:21 Jearl says, " http://dogshaming.tumblr.com/ "
[dinner]|23:21 jenrexrode says, "yeah, that thing on the left is what Firion was talking about, a crunchy taco wrapped with melted cheese and a gordita"
[lounge]|23:22 Lucea is gonna get back baby bad balls to you, love, cretin.
[lounge]|23:22 * Lucea has disconnected.
[dinner]|23:23 jenrexrode says, "this is more like what I had - mostly lettuce http://ke5fyd.webatu.com/images/gordita.jpg "
[dinner]|23:24 ghira says, "ah ok. so the wikipedia photo was giving me the wrong impression"
[lounge]|23:25 Limax says, "Off"
[lounge]|23:25 Limax walks slowly out of the room and into the sunset.
[dinner]|23:25 ghira says, "as you say, more like a doner kebab than a pasty"
[dinner]|23:28 jenrexrode says, "yeah, I don't think my gordita was any more fried than your normal corn tortilla, which is not at all - just cooked on a dry skiller"
[dinner]|23:28 jenrexrode says, "er skillet"
[dinner]|23:29 ghira says, "I need to have one of these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arancini at some point. probably a mushroom or aubergine one I guess."
[dinner]|23:29 jenrexrode says, "wow"
[lounge]|23:30 Fang is told of the death of Christ, and becomes so angry that the brain bursts from his head, and he dies. The blood from the wound baptises him as a Christian, and his soul goes to heaven.
[dinner]|23:30 ghira says, "the meat ones are everywhere."
[dinner]|23:31 jenrexrode says, "aw, the Arancini food cart in Austin is listed as closed.  I wonder if they had them"
[dinner]|23:31 jenrexrode says, "or if they just liked the name"
[dinner]|23:31 ghira says, "I can only assume they had them"
[dinner]|23:32 ghira says, "one Sicilian thing I have eaten various times is this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panelle "
[dinner]|23:32 ghira says, "but only in Palermo, which we no longer have any reason to visit"
[dinner]|23:32 jenrexrode says, "they did, they described them as risotto balls"
[dinner]|23:33 ghira says, "good enough description"
[dinner]|23:33 ghira says, "apparently there's this whole east coast "arancini" vs west coat "arancine" thing"
[dinner]|23:34 jenrexrode says, "darn, I shoul dhave gone. it was less than a mile from my house"
[dinner]|23:34 ghira says, "and round vs conical."
[dinner]|23:34 ghira says, "AB's father is from Messina, where they're conical, but he lives in Catania where they're round. dangerous stuff."
[food]|23:34 DorianX asks, "is it reasonable to slow-cook the meat and then make a slow-cooker chili from it?"
[dinner]|23:35 jenrexrode says, "heh heh"
[food]|23:35 DorianX asks, "Given that this would mean cooking the meat for like 18 hours?"
[gender]|23:36 GDorn | http://www.theawl.com/2012/08/todd-akin-uterus-facts
[gender]|23:36 GDorn says, "hehe"
[dinner]|23:36 ghira says, "I need to visit a food cart next time I'm in the US I think"
[dinner]|23:36 ghira says, "is Atlanta likely to have them? I don't recall noticing any"
[dinner]|23:37 zarf says, "I think all cities do, but you have to know where to look"
[gender]|23:37 GDorn says, "I admire both the depth and breadth of these bits of trivia."
[dinner]|23:37 ghira says, "to the extent that we have anything similar here, it seems to me they're very very downmarket"
[gender]|23:37 GDorn | Like the mythical tent of Peri-Banou, a uterus can contract to fit within the palm of a human hand or expand to cover an entire jousting field.
[dinner]|23:38 ghira says, "selling dubious burgers to late-night drunks, sort of thing"
[lounge]|23:40 Firion goes home.
[kitties]|23:42 ghira says, "no Mi. hmm."
[kitties]|23:42 ghira says, "probably out doing vital cat things"
[kitties]|23:43 ghira says, "AB used to stay up until she came home each night but quickly realised that in summer this was positively dangerous"
[food]|23:43 jenrexrode says, "seems unecessary, I guess it depends on the meat"
[food]|23:43 ghira asks, "is it that the beans and similar need less cooking than the meat so you want to add them later?"
[lounge]|23:49 Miseri is very disappointed in you.  Earlier, he may have ransacked your office, but he is *very* disappointed in you.
[beer]|23:56 jenrexrode says, "how do I not know about this? http://southaustinbrewery.com/ "
[lounge]/00:12 Johnny does like justice, but that's taking it a bit far.
[obits]|00:25 BrenBarn says, "Tony Scott, director of Top Gun and other movies, killed himself by jumping off a bridge yesterday in LA"
[obits]|00:26 jenrexrode says, "yecch"
[lounge]/00:42 K-Y then looked around and came to the conclusion that pretty much no one in this lounge even lifts.
[lounge]|00:42 * K-Y has disconnected.
[obits]|00:45 jenrexrode says, "oh, inoperable brain cancer"
[obits]|00:45 BrenBarn says, "apparently that's not true"
[obits]|00:45 jenrexrode says, "aww"
[lounge]|00:46 BrenBarn:  | But Craig Harvey, a chief for the coroner's office, said Scott's family denied media reports about brain cancer.
[obits]|00:46 BrenBarn | "The family told us it is incorrect that he has inoperable brain cancer," Harvey said.
[lounge]|00:46 BrenBarn says, "ILAC"
[obits]|00:46 BrenBarn | But Craig Harvey, a chief for the coroner's office, said Scott's family denied media reports about brain cancer.
[obits]|00:46 BrenBarn | "The family told us it is incorrect that he has inoperable brain cancer," Harvey said.
[obits]|00:47 jenrexrode says, "darn ABC"
[obits]|00:50 nothings says, "weird that they would do that"
[obits]|00:50 nothings says, "i guess if asked for comment it's natural to tell the truth"
[obits]|00:51 nothings says, "but somehow i initially read it as them taking a more active rule, at which point it sounds like they think inoperable brain cancer is a worse thing to be associated with than suicide"
[obits]|00:53 jenrexrode says, ";yeah, interesting"
[lounge]|00:53 jenrexrode says, "must-finish-chores"
[lounge]|01:02 McMartin says, "I should do that"
[college]|01:13 BrenBarn says, "reading these articles about the dire straits of adjunct professors isn't giving me much gusto about continuing along an academic career path"
[college]|01:14 BrenBarn says (to markov), "a 15th century deformed homeless is antique and would cost more"
[college]|01:14 inky says, "it is pretty shitty, yeah"
[college]|01:15 inky says, "though if you're brilliant and in a field with funding it can be pretty good"
[college]|01:15 inky says, "like Bishop seems to be doing pretty well, and I am pretty sure he is good but not like world-class"
[college]|01:15 BrenBarn says, "yeah"
[college]|01:16 BrenBarn says, "although his field is among the most marketable"
[college]|01:16 inky asks, "among math specialities?"
[college]|01:16 BrenBarn says, "no, I just mean math in general"
[college]|01:16 inky says, "hunh"
[college]|01:17 BrenBarn says, "just in the sense that essentially every college, no matter how small, always needs people to teach math"
[college]|01:17 inky says, "I would like to see a comic like this but with funding http://xkcd.com/435/ "
[college]|01:17 BrenBarn says, "heh"
[college]|01:18 BrenBarn says, "ironically I was a research assitant on a linguistic project that used that comic as an example of self-perception and self-identification among math/science students"
[college]|01:19 BrenBarn says, "the funding version of that is the joke about science, math, and philosophy"
[college]|01:20 BrenBarn says, "namely, that science is expensive because you need equipment like lasers, particle accelerators, chemical labs, clean rooms, etc."
[college]|01:20 BrenBarn says, "math is cheaper because all you need is a pencil and paper and a trash can"
[college]|01:20 BrenBarn says, "and philosophy is even easier because you don't need the trash can"
[college]|01:20 inky says, "ha ha"
[college]|01:20 inky says, "right"
[college]|01:21 BrenBarn says, "anyway, I dunno, my field is middling funding-wise I guess"
[college]|01:21 ghira says, "well olethros seems to be having a fairly hard time finding jobs and he's CS which you'd think wasn't too badly off"
[college]|01:21 BrenBarn says, "it's not as low as froofy humanities stuff like renaissance studies but not as high as stuff like psych or physics"
[college]|01:21 inky says, "hmm"
[college]|01:22 inky says, "olethros is in a complicated situation academically I am pretty sure"
[college]|01:22 BrenBarn says, "someone else in my department posted this link to an article about adjunct profs on food stamps http://chronicle.com/article/From-Graduate-School-to/131795/ "
[college]|01:22 ghira says, "I think I've heard that in the UK some of the "former polytechnic" type places are cutting courses like physics because they're too theoretical"
[college]|01:22 ghira says, "in favour of more directly marketable stuff like electronics, say"
[college]|01:24 BrenBarn | When I expressed doubt about the job market to one colleague, she advised me, with total seriousness, to "re-evaluate what work means" and to consider "post-work imaginaries".
[college]|01:24 BrenBarn says, "(from a different article)"
[programming]|01:26 BrenBarn | I want to log in this website with python, but it can't come true,
[programming]|01:26 BrenBarn says, "his lifelong dream, squashed"
[programming]|01:26 inky says, "wishes do come true!"
[lounge]|01:26 jenrexrode says, "well I finished the time sensitive ones"
[drinks]|01:26 jenrexrode says, "celebrating with a Topo Chico"
[lounge]|01:30 zarf walks off through the wall; pale green light flares briefly around him.
[personals]|01:31 BrenBarn | Q: Are you attracted to dangerous situations?
[personals]|01:31 BrenBarn | A: No
[personals]|01:31 BrenBarn | Explanation: “Little adventure... nice.. legs/arms, and all that good stuff.. equally nice”
[news]|01:32 BrenBarn | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/20/coley-mitchell-drunk-monkeys_n_1810998.html
[lounge]|01:46 two-star sought a woman and found a monkey. Well, it happens.
[lounge]|01:48 Ellison arrives from the east.
[lounge]|01:48 Ellison says, "re"
[lounge]|01:48 BrenBarn says, "rellison, **"
[lounge]|01:49 jenrexrode says, "hi/hi"
[lounge]|01:50 Rob comes right on in.
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Rob says, "blahzz"
#153 [misc/places/seattle]         From: mamster       Date: 20-Aug-12 16:10
Subject: I should be around for SteveCon
Keep me posted.
#154 [misc/places/seattle]         From: Steve         Date: 20-Aug-12 17:16
Subject: Proposed time for dinner
I am thinking like 6 PM at the Bookstore Bar.  If that works for people, let's plan for that.  If there are better times where you could make it but it should be earlier/later, mudmail me and we can figure something out.
#473 [alt/obits]                   From: Matthew       Date: 20-Aug-12 15:29
Subject: Phyllis Diller, 95
Comedienne/actress
Recapping 23 of 23 lines from alt/obits:
[obits]/001 Ellison says, "wow, director Tony Scott committed suicide"
[obits]/002 nothings says, "yikes"
[obits]/003 Grocible says, "Suicide note not released"
[obits]/004 Grocible says, "presumably it's not "I'm tired of living in my brother's shadow""
[obits]/005 nothings says, "hmm, 68. maybe he had a fatal illness or something"
[obits]/006 Matthew says, "I'm seeing on Twitter that Tony Scott had inoperable brain cancer.  That's really sad."
[obits]/007 * NewsBoy hollers, "Extra! Extra! Matthew has posted message 473, about 'Phyllis Diller, 95', to the bulletin board!"
[obits]/008 inky says, "man, 95"
[obits]/009 DavidW says, "aw man, Phyllis Diller."
[obits]/010 Johnny says, "I wonder what kind of joke Phyllis Diller would've had about her death."
[obits]/011 BrenBarn says, "Tony Scott, director of Top Gun and other movies, killed himself by jumping off a bridge yesterday in LA"
[obits]/012 jenrexrode says, "yecch"
[obits]/013 jenrexrode says, "oh, inoperable brain cancer"
[obits]/014 BrenBarn says, "apparently that's not true"
[obits]/015 jenrexrode says, "aww"
[obits]/016 BrenBarn | "The family told us it is incorrect that he has inoperable brain cancer," Harvey said.
[obits]/017 BrenBarn | But Craig Harvey, a chief for the coroner's office, said Scott's family denied media reports about brain cancer.
[obits]/018 BrenBarn | "The family told us it is incorrect that he has inoperable brain cancer," Harvey said.
[obits]/019 jenrexrode says, "darn ABC"
[obits]/020 nothings says, "weird that they would do that"
[obits]/021 nothings says, "i guess if asked for comment it's natural to tell the truth"
[obits]/022 nothings says, "but somehow i initially read it as them taking a more active rule, at which point it sounds like they think inoperable brain cancer is a worse thing to be associated with than suicide"
[obits]/023 jenrexrode says, ";yeah, interesting"
Recapped 23 of 23 lines from alt/obits.
[obits] Rob says, "tony scott committed suicide?? wha"
jenrexrode says, "hey"
Rob says, "hi"
[obits] BrenBarn says, "yeah"
[obits] Ellison says, "yeah"
[obits] Ellison says, "I think there's an argument to be made that more of his stuff has a special place in my heart than his brother's"
[obits] Rob says, "reserved for overly bombastic hyperstylized hollywood fare"
[obits] Rob asks, "did he really jump off a bridge?"
[obits] nothings says, "yes"
[obits] Rob says, "man"
[obits] Rob says, "kind of a showy way to go"
[obits] nothings says, "it is not true that there were explosions going off behind him as he did so"
[obits] Rob says, "kind of old fashioned"
[obits] nothings says, "(too soon?)"
[obits] Rob says, "ha ha aw man"
[obits] Rob says, "apparently not"
[obits] Rob says, "doing the stunt guy arm windmill"
[obits] BrenBarn says, "I wonder if he wilhelm screamed on the way down"
[obits] Ellison says (to nothings), "ha ha"
[obits] Rob says, "a bridge over water or like over an expressway or something"
[obits] BrenBarn says, "over water"
[obits] nothings says, "water"
[obits] Rob says, "huh."
[obits] Rob says, "that might not necessarily kill ya"
[obits] BrenBarn says, "Vincent Thomas Bridge"
[obits] Rob says, "I'm not familiar with that bridge"
[obits] Rob says, "or vincent thomas for that matter"
[obits] BrenBarn says, "it's a bridge in the port of LA"
[obits] Rob says, "I'm trying to remember what tony scott has directed lately. I sort of lost track of him after the domino harvey movie"
[obits] BrenBarn says, "according to wikipedia it's 185 feet over the water"
[obits] Rob says, "which was a while back"
[obits] Rob says, "ouch"
[obits] Rob says, "like smacking concrete"
[obits] Rob says, "I guess you give your eyes and brain one last spectacle and thrill that way"
[obits] BrenBarn | http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080428144625AAfwm08
[obits] BrenBarn says, "the last answer at the bottom is good"
[obits] nothings says, "apparently survival rate of Golden Gate bridge jumps (which is slightly higher) is 2%"
[obits] jenrexrode | http://ll-media.tmz.com/2012/08/20/0820-tony-scott-bridge-tmz-article-3.jpg
[obits] Rob says, "I wonder if you have second thoughts on the way down like oops Undo"
[obits] ghira says, ""ah well, I have two lives left""
[obits] Rob says, "oh yeah unstoppable right"
[obits] Rob says, "I made a stupid cliff jump with a friend at some texas watering hole"
[obits] jenrexrode says, "tony, the bridge, and the same red shorts"
[weblogs] nothings says, "accidentally hit LJ spellcheck"
[weblogs] nothings says, "for IMDB, it suggests IAMBI, AMID, IMBIBE, AIMED, IMBUE, AMBY, OTB, AMIDE, AMIDS, AMADO, OMIT, EMT, AMT, EMIT"
[obits] Rob says, "kept my shoes on, took way longer to go down than I thought, and so my feet didn't hurt but my palms slapped the water on the way in and really smarted and turned red for a while"
[weblogs] nothings says, "pretty sure IMDB is more likely than a lot of those"
[obits] BrenBarn | http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20101226170133AAqpyKT
[obits] Rob says, "just a sore but."
[obits] Rob says, "people jump off the 360 bridge sometimes (not recommended)"
[obits] Rob says, "there's the fractal thing with water waves where it can look from above like maybe not as high as it really is"
[obits] Rob says, "I think I read a chronicle article about a 360 bridge jumper and he described having the time for several wuh oh moments as he went down and still hadn't hit when he thought he was going to"
[movie] Rob says, "I watched cowboys & aliens a couple of days ago while looking for escapist fare to distract my brain"
[obits] nothings | impact in a "sailors dive" with your chin tucked against your chest and the broad flat plane of your shoulders making the intitial contact with the water
[obits] nothings asks, "how do you let your shoulders make the initial contact with the water?"
[movie] Rob says, "the main thing about it, and what maybe contributed to it basically tanking at the box office, was that there was no sense of humor to it at all"
[movie] Rob says, "it was just grim and serious and seriouser and violent and grim"
[movie] Ellison says, "yeah"
[obits] nothings says, "oh, i guess basically hitting on your back. that sounds implausible"
[movie] Rob says, "there was one tepid lighthearted joke moment about 15 minutes before the end"
<olethros> Tetris may hold the key to stopping cannibalism.
olethros was sworn in by robed priests on Thursday morning.
olethros says, "hello again"
[movie] Rob says, "but you know, you see this funny title 'cowboys and aliens', you see it's jon favreau of iron man and stupid comedy fame, and you think, ok, this will be silly fun"
[movie] Rob says, "instead everyone is thinking they're making Unforgiven or something"
[movie] Rob says, "which had more comedy than this thing did"
[movie] nothings says, "yeah, weird"
[movie] Rob says, "also the design for the aliens was stupid"
[movie] olethros says, "yeah"
[movie] olethros asks, "lizardmen, was it?"
[movie] Ellison says, "I mean, I think there were attempts at humor (wasn't there a town drunk?), but it counted on us being attached to the characters but they don't really give us a lot besides hey-look-THIS-guy-is-being-played-by-Harrison-Ford and so forth"
[movie] Rob says, "they're high tech but bigger than horses and have teeth and lobster claws and chomp people and somehow pilot starships too"
jenrexrode says, "hi"
[movie] Rob says, "even the scientists look like buff bodybuilder crab people"
[movie] Rob says, "who bite you on the neck"
[movie] Rob says, "at least harrison ford had an arc where he went from a nasty sonofabitch to a sort of kindly sonofabitch"
[movie] olethros says, "obviously the real aliens are mind-controlling these avatars"
[movie] Rob says, "I don't even remember a town drunk"
[movie] nothings says, " http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71YsRO6G7Ks "
[movie] Rob says, "it did sort of do the trick as a brain escape, but only because I was distracted by complaining about how much more fun it could have been"
[movie] olethros says, "does he say 'huh aliens, I must have drunk too much (gulps down more whiksey)'"
[movie] Rob says, "one certainly doesn't feel like one wants to watch it over and over again, which is what high budget summer movies rely on"
[movie] olethros says, "I liked the bracelet - I thought we were watching Pawn"
[movie] Rob says, "heh"
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[movie] Rob says, "except the bracelet didn't make sense to me because it was built for an alien-sized wrist 3 times the circumference of daniel craig's wrist"
[movie] olethros says, "I dont remember where he got it from anymore"
vaporware vows never to return again, as he leads a rumba line out of the lounge after setting the place on fire.
</vaporware> As to the phalanx of attorneys, I invoke.
[movie] olethros says, "oh yes, it'"
[movie] olethros says, "is a shooting bracelet"
[movie] Rob says, "I was also mumbling how the girl that's always pestering him looked way too supermodely and modern to be period, until at least it was explained that she wasn't supposed to fit into the old west after all"
[movie] Rob says, "later in the movie I saw some of the aliens actually wearing them too"
[movie] olethros asks, "doesnt it autofit the wrist?"
[movie] olethros says, "I mean, even my watch has an adjustable bracelet"
[movie] Rob says, "it was somehow next to the operating table where they were slicing up daniel craig"
[movie] Rob asks, "hm yeah but why would it remotely size down to fit a human wrist?"
[movie] Rob says, "I'm asking like there's a logic to be had in a cowboy vs aliens movie, but whatever"
[movie] Rob says, "you can pick whatever logic you want but it has to make sense internally"
[movie] Rob says, "mainly I just wanted more jokes and a twinkle in the movie's eye about itself, but it lacked that"
[movie] Rob says, "did jon favreau start thinking 'gee I want more cred as a serious director, here's my chance' or something"
[movie] BrenBarn says, "if you want that, you don't direct a movie called 'cowboys & aliens'"
[movie] Rob says, "there was an article about joss whedon when the avengers came out, and it had a relevant quote from favreau, who gave him some advice"
[movie] BrenBarn says, "all I can think of when I think of cowboys & aliens is dave's idea for a game called 'saints vs. dinosaurs'"
[movie] Rob says, "he said basically that when the movie is this big and expensive, 'the machine won't let you fail' to make it, so you can quietly sneak in and do whatever you want while the factory is making sure all the explosions happen"
[movie] Rob says, "ha ha"
[movie] nothings says, "favreau said that? i thought joss had said that"
[movie] Rob says, "that could be a big game in the evangelical community"
[movie] BrenBarn says, "or the paleontological community"
[movie] Rob says, "favreau said that to joss, who reported to the nytimes that favreau had said it to him"
[movie] inky says (to BrenBarn), "ha ha, I forgot about that"
[movie] Rob says, "so maybe he had some ambition to do a serious gritty cowboy movie or something"
[movie] BrenBarn says, "it's one of those bits of mud happenstance that's lodged in my brain"
[movie] Rob says, "it reminded me of the first 3D movie of the 80s fad for those movies, a western called 'Comin' At Ya!'"
[movie] Rob says, "and all the ads were comic and funny and you thought ok this'll be great, like blazing saddles in 3D"
[movie] BrenBarn says, "ha ha"
[movie] Rob says, "and then it was this gritty unfunny leaden western that included a brutal rape"
[movie] inky says, "wow"
[movie] nothings says, "yikes"
[movie] inky says, "ok that makes the title in poor taste"
[movie] Rob says, "and I'm like 12 years old watching this and wondering what the deal is"
[movie] nothings says, "haha"
[movie] Rob says, "ha ha"
[movie] BrenBarn says, "that's --- yeah"
</inky> I haven't been licking anything out of the ordinary.
[movie] Rob says, "it was rated R, I must have made my mom take me to see it or something"
[breakfast] olethros says, "I guess I have eaten a moth"
[breakfast] olethros says, "didn't taste like anything"
[breakfast] Rob says, "ha ha ew"
[breakfast] Rob says, "they're kind of made out of powder"
[breakfast] olethros says, "the wings shells are still hard though"
[movie] Rob says, "why the hell did you eat a moth for breakfast"
[breakfast] (from ghira) Rob says, "or was that chowder. or gouda? I can never remember."
[breakfast] jenrexrode asks, "gouda sounds like chowder?"
[breakfast] olethros says, "not sure if they are really wings"
[breakfast] ghira says (to jen), "not as far as I know, but maybe"
[breakfast] olethros says, "they seem way too hard"
[breakfast] olethros says, "maybe it's just oats shells"
[movie] BrenBarn says, "what"
[movie] ghira says, ""I know what you did last summer 3", followed by "why the hell did you eat a moth for breakfast?""
[breakfast] olethros says, "hm it does kind of look like oat hulls"
[movie] Rob says, "oh oops"
[movie] ghira says, "I guess to show the I know what you did guy that he doesn't know everything, ha"
[breakfast] Rob says, "why the hell did you eat a moth for breakfast"
[breakfast] olethros says, "it was in my oats"
[breakfast] Rob says, "how did you figure out you ate a moth in your oats"
[breakfast] olethros says, "there was something hard in my mouth wait"
[breakfast] (from Rob) olethros says, "whew it was just the spoon"
Recapping 22 of 22 lines from misc/politics/politics:
[politics]/001 Allen | Exclusive: FBI probed GOP trip with drinking, nudity in Israel
[politics]/002 Allen | "A year ago, my wife, Brooke, and I joined colleagues for dinner at the Sea of Galilee in Israel. After dinner I followed some Members of Congress in a spontaneous and very brief dive into the sea and regrettably I jumped into the water without a swimsuit," Yoder said in a statement to POLITICO. "It is my greatest honor to represent the people of Kansas in Congress and [for] any embarrassment I have caused for my colleagues and constituents, I apologize."
[politics]/003 boucher says, "Well, I have some faith in humanity, at least.  Even if only for appearances, everyone is running as fast as possible away from Akin, even those who 'support' his positions."
[politics]/004 boucher says, "ven being seen in the same room as him is seen as political poison now."
[politics]/005 baf says, "See, this is how the liberal media suppresses dissent."
[politics]/006 maga asks, "#tasteless so Republicans are calling for him to withdraw, but they don't really mean it?"
[politics]/007 inky says, "aie"
[politics]/008 olethros says, "ha ha ha"
[politics]/009 mwmiller | One of my very first proto-political thoughts was that Reagan was bad because he wanted to take away Big Bird.
[politics]/010 Johnny says, "Also actor <=> politician doesn't tend to go well."
[politics]/011 Jon says, "that doesn't bode well for Obama's film career."
[politics]/012 Johnny says, "You end up with a brundlefly."
[politics]/013 Allen says (to Johnny), "huh, I didn't know you hated Al Franken"
[politics]/014 mwmiller exclaims, "Franken's a *comedian*. Totally different!"
[politics]/015 Johnny says, "He's Frankenstein."
[politics]/016 Johnny says, "(Mostly because of the name.)"
[politics]/017 mwmiller | I was born in Kansas, I already know what's wrong with it. Not enough trees. I think the grove of cedars in my backyard was our state forest.
[politics]/018 Allen says, "FBI denies that they investigated skinny-dipping in the Sea of Galilee"
[politics]/019 (from McMartin) Allen says, "It was actually Mossad. Jurisdiction issues."
[politics]/020 McMartin says, "Oh, I see, they were actually probing one of the Congressmen in question and reports got overexcited"
[politics]/021 mwmiller | "I guess I really actually feel we shouldn't contort the voting process to accommodate the urban -- read African-American -- voter-turnout machine," Preisse said. "Let's be fair and reasonable."
[politics]/022 McMartin says, "*Un*reasonable is burning Atlanta to the ground again"
Recapped 22 of 22 lines from misc/politics/politics.
[breakfast] olethros says, "anyway, I spit out something which is either part of an insect or an oat hull"
[xboxlive] Ellison says, "man, I was playing Gears of War online with my siblings. for whatever reason, I got really cranky about how things were going and now am still in kind of a bad mood. that kind of thing happens rarely enough that it just weirds me out that it happens."
[xboxlive] Rob says, "I wandered into a videogame shop today and they had Gears of War 2 for $4.98"
[xboxlive] Rob says, "and I thought, 'hm, that's not really my thing, but that's a good price'"
[breakfast] jenrexrode says, "oat hulls are pretty buggy looking"
[xboxlive] Rob says, "didn't get it though"
[xboxlive] Ellison says, "that was a good game, too. I'd play the co-op with you if you pick it up, but yeah, it's going to be so cheap since everybody is going to be playing the multiplayer on the latest one."
[xboxlive] Ellison says, "it is kind of tricky to learn, too."
[xboxlive] Rob says, "it flitted through my mind whether you had it and it worked multiplayer"
[xboxlive] Rob says, "yeah it looked daunting looking at the copy on the back"
[breakfast] olethros says, "yeah, this is far too hard to be a moth wing"
[breakfast] Rob says, "so apparently oat hulls don't taste like anything either"
[breakfast] olethros says, "indeed"
[breakfast] olethros says, "neither do oats though"
[breakfast] jenrexrode says, "yeah, hulls aren't very shewable"
[breakfast] Rob says, "heh shew"
[breakfast] Rob says, "sp gesundheit"
[breakfast] Rob says, "er"
[breakfast] jenrexrode says, "man it's late"
[breakfast] Rob says, "yeah I'm going to head in"
[breakfast] Rob says, "I just wanted to make an appearance"
[xboxlive] Ellison says, "I think they released a demo for at least one of the games that you could download from Live if you're curious"
[breakfast] jenrexrode says, "ok"
[breakfast] jenrexrode says, "seeya"
[breakfast] olethros says, "und ich muss zu Arbeit"
[xboxlive] Rob says, "hmm I might try that"
[breakfast] Rob says, "gehen sie"
[xboxlive] Ellison says, "one of the main characters is voiced by the guy who does Bender for Futurama so there are times that I go, huh, that sounded a little Bender-y"
[xboxlive] Rob says, "he really doesn't have a whole lot of range"
[xboxlive] Rob says, "as I learned watching that 'cartoon voice guys do star wars' thing"
[breakfast] olethros says, "sie? bitte, nicht wie formel"
[xboxlive] Ellison says, "heh, yeah"
[breakfast] Rob says, "yeah except I can't remember anything else"
[breakfast] olethros says, "ok lets stop talking crapogerman"
Rob says, "ok gnighten sie"
Rob says, "blgh"
Rob heads right on out.
</Rob> Find release from your cares. have a good time.
Seeya later.