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ifMUD
An interactive real time social network chat bulletin board
quotebook url database with a parrot bot
Copyright 1997-2007 by Loungent Technologies, a wholly owned subsidiary of
rec.[arts|games].int-fiction; All rights reserved.
Release 4 / Serial number 990908 / perlMUD v2.1z
    "The characters were mostly of the cardboard cutout variety.
    I wanted to punch everyone except the one Scottish guy."
         --Jearl
  NOTE: Whenever a fix or enhancement is in place, it will be announced
  on the channel '#mud-updates'.
  OTHER NOTE: There is a mailing list where people can say things like
  "hey, the mud's down, what's up with that?" In fact, since this is
  the only thing the list is used for, you should join it if you are
  interested in this subject. To join, go to
    http://groups.google.com/group/ifmud/
  or talk to Steve.
Robinson Manor
A gracious, welcoming, airy space. Music drifts in from unseen speakers. A picture window on the southern wall provides a pleasant source of light and a sense of openness.
You can see: teleporter, a picture window, comfy sofa, Jeopardy podium, buzzer1, buzzer2, buzzer3, Jota greets Rob, fake_Robb_Sherwin
Visible Exits: west, east
<Rob> "that was a sound of realization transitioning into a groan"
No new channels have been created since your last check.
Adventurer's Lounge
Candles on the wood-panelled walls create a comfortably dark atmosphere. Hand-drawn maps are taped to nearly every surface -- the walls, the ceiling, the trophy case in the corner. Seating is plentiful. A small storage closet is to the north.
You can see: new laundry list, Birthday Calendar, magic laundry list, blank banner, Even Newer World Map, charset sampler, Automeeter, TheMasterTheorem player names, time zones, MUD Client Wish List, battle.net battletags, madlibs, Anything Finder, Sarcasm Detector, Gene Ray
Players: Alex, markm, Touchy, Bishop, ctmiller, Jon, DorianX, Otis, Jearl, vimes, Grocible, Ryan, GDorn, marc, annabianca, boucher, Iain, Allen, genericgeekgirl, Markov, Fang, Jota, Steve, Tale, Matthew, DavidW, Gunther, Marvin, maga, inky, ghira, Emily, Dave, two-star, olethros, Ellison, lpsmith, baf, Psmith, zaphod, zarf
Visible Exits: north, west, southwest, southeast, up, east
Rob comes right on in.
Recapping 1000 of 3913 lines from recent channels:
[law]/10:38 Tale says (to gunther), "Not your Peet Peeve again"
[law]|10:39 Gunther says, "snrk"
[lounge]|10:40 Gunther says, "ok, I'm outta here"
[lounge]|10:40 Gunther, Geoffrey, and Shamino all represented various aspects of Garriott: his ego, his ego, and his ego, respectively
[lounge]|10:43 ghira goes home.
[lounge]|10:43 * ghira has disconnected.
[law]|10:44 Allen | Particularly in cases as anomalous as the one against Adams--a case in which a jury will have to believe that Adams raised three daughters who grew up to be his biggest defenders against charges that he molests little girls; a case in which we find children who say that they were not abused, and only adults who say they were
[lounge]|10:49 Nitku will come to the conclusion that one of them is hallucinating and further conclude that the hallucination is due to poison ingestion.
[law]|10:57 olethros says, "hm sounds like a case of them not liking this adams fellow"
[law]|11:02 Fang says, "or kids being easy to manipulate"
[food]|11:04 Allen says, "YUM! http://www.food.com/recipe/ice-cubes-420398 "
[law]|11:04 Fang says, "stuff like this is why I'm in favour of CCTV in schools"
[food]|11:05 Allen says, "grrr, stupid foodies in the review:"
[food]|11:05 Allen | I harvest my own free-range water, so the idea of putting it in a plastic tray and a commercially made electricity-wasting freezer disgusts me. I prefer nature's method, waiting until the temperature outside drops below freezing.
[law]|11:06 Allen asks, "closed caption tv? So the hearing disabled can understand what's going on?"
[law]|11:07 Jota says, "Closed circuit."
[law]|11:08 Jota says, "So that instead of molesting kids, you can watch their every movement from the privacy of a secluded back room."
[food]|11:10 Matthew says, "Ha."
[news]|11:12 Nitku | A Norwegian driver swerved his car on a rural road to avoid running into a moose, only to hit a bear instead.
[news]|11:12 Ryan says, "Oh northern climes, you so cray."
[news]|11:12 katre says, "that sounds like some kind of proverb"
[news]|11:13 katre says, "'Don't dodge the moose and hit the bear, young man'"
[news]|11:13 vimes says, "ha ha"
[news]|11:13 vimes says, "except you have to say it with a heavy norwegian accent"
[news]|11:13 katre says, "'... or burn your finger'"
[news]|11:13 katre says, "wait, that's Finnish"
[news]|11:14 katre says, "(man, no one remembers Dilbon anymore, do they. sheesh)"
[law]|11:15 Fang says, "well, the implementation I have in mind is that it goes into a secure database"
[law]|11:15 Fang says, "and if there's an allegation that can be used"
[law]|11:15 Fang says, "by the police"
[lounge]|11:20 Marvin counters with Vegy-Might!
[lounge]|11:20 Marvin says, "Hi."
[law]|11:20 Fang says, "nobody gets to view the tapes unless there's an accusation"
[PGtv]|11:22 Ryan asks, "Why is PG at the ER?"
[PGtv]|11:22 Matthew says, "She is?  Eep."
[lounge]|11:22 DavidW materializes out from a silver haze in the light.
[lounge]|11:22 DavidW says, "hello"
[lounge]|11:23 Johnny says, "Hi Sober DavidW"
[PGtv]|11:23 vimes says, "uh, eep indeed.  no idea."
[lounge]|11:23 vimes says, "maybe sober, anyway"
[lounge]|11:23 vimes says, "check for zebras"
[lounge]|11:24 Johnny asks, "Was the pizza good?"
[lounge]|11:24 DavidW says, "yes, I'm sober. I slept away last night's alcohol."
[lounge]|11:25 DavidW says, "And I didn't molest any zebras or pizzas."
[news]|11:25 Allen says, "we used to have a Norseman here as well, but I can't remember his name!"
[lounge]|11:25 DavidW says, "I haven't had any pizza this week, so far."
[news]|11:25 Allen says, "Hairbrain!"
[lounge]|11:26 DavidW says, "I have, however, submitted my monthly report card, updated my resume with new address and phone number, and brought a few groceries this morning."
[news]|11:27 Allen says, "and Torbjorn was sweden. But he never was on much. I can't remember anything about him, except he provided a buffer between Dilbon and HairBrain"
[lounge]|11:27 Gunther apparently summons the Ruins of Old Magincia onto the Town of New Magincia, crushing everyone beneath piles of completely inexplicable towers.
[lounge]|11:27 Marvin goes southwest to play with toys.
[lounge]|11:28 Marvin arrives from the Toyshop, landing in a heap after being flung from the Sit 'n' Spin.
[lounge]|11:28 Marvin enters the closet to the north.
[lounge]|11:28 DavidW says, "Now I'm merely trying to decide what I ought to eat for lunch."
[Windows-sux]|11:28 Allen says, "hmm, my bootup is locked in a loop"
[Windows-sux]|11:28 Allen says, "they must have buggily updated the window startup script"
[lounge]|11:28 Marvin comes out of the closet.
[Windows-sux]|11:29 Allen says, "it keeps  printing 'if "Windows_NT" == "Windows_NT" goto START"
[channels]|11:29 Matthew asks, "Hmm, what channel for discussing Ohio?  Specifically Cincinnati?"
[channels]|11:29 Gunther says, "#usa(-sux)"
[channels]|11:30 Allen says, "there has never been any need in the past to ever discuss Ohio"
[channels]|11:30 katre says (to allen), "+1"
[channels]|11:30 katre says, "possibly #midwest"
[midwest]|11:30 Matthew says, "Oh yeah."
[midwest]|11:31 Matthew asks, "There's a possibility I might be going to Cincinnati next month, and a friend recommended I try Greater's ice cream.  Anyone know what makes it so special?"
[lounge]|11:32 Tigrita enters, enthusiastically enraptured by the ensuing entropy. Whatever that means.
[food]|11:34 * Tigrita has joined the channel.
[food]|11:35 Tigrita says, "well, it beats living there"
[food]|11:36 Tigrita says, "Sorry wrong channel"
[news]|11:40 * Tigrita has joined the channel.
[lounge]|11:43 Tale looks at Jota.
[lounge]|11:43 Tigrita looks at Jota.
[lounge]|11:43 Tale looks at Jota.
[lounge]|11:43 Tigrita looks at jota
[lounge]|11:44 (From Johnny) Jota turns red.
[lounge]|11:44 genericgeekgirl does not look at Jota!
[lounge]|11:44 Tale gives a small gold sphere to DavidW.
[lounge]|11:45 Tigrita looks at Jota.
[peanut-gallery]|11:47 Jota says, "Also, full sentences with proper grammar and punctuation: +1"
[peanut-gallery]|11:48 Gunther says, "psst, that's your olook."
[peanut-gallery]|11:48 Jota asks, "'Oh geez, I just realized how creepy I'm sounding.' is my olook?"
[peanut-gallery]|11:49 Gunther says, "yep"
[peanut-gallery]|11:49 Jota says, "All these years, I never knew."
[lounge]|11:49 Tigrita does a little jig.
[peanut-gallery]|11:49 Gunther says, "better change it to something like 'looks at Jota.'"
[peanut-gallery]|11:50 Jota exclaims, "Good call!"
[peanut-gallery]|11:52 Allen asks, "'full sentences with proper grammar and punctuation: +1'. Was there a verb there?"
[peanut-gallery]|11:52 Gunther says, "yes, an implicit one in "+1""
[peanut-gallery]|11:52 Gunther says, "which is pronounced "gain my approval""
[peanut-gallery]|11:53 * Tigrita has joined the channel.
[peanut-gallery]|11:54 Jota says, "Whoops, now we have to stop talking about her behind her back."
[peanut-gallery]|11:54 Gunther says, "naaah"
[peanut-gallery]|11:54 Gunther says, "you know what I haven't seen in forever? "a/s/l""
[peanut-gallery]|11:55 Fang says, "probably because you're an old fogey, Gunther"
[peanut-gallery]|11:55 Johnny asks (of Gunther), "They use American Sign Language round those parts?"
[peanut-gallery]|11:55 Tigrita says, "I don't think you can do sign language on a text client"
[peanut-gallery]|11:55 Gunther says, "\m/"
[peanut-gallery]|11:55 Tigrita says (to johnny), "STOP STEALING MY JOKES"
[peanut-gallery]|11:55 Jota says (to Gunther), "Yay."
[peanut-gallery]|11:56 Tigrita says, "Age: As old as my tongue, and a few years older than my teeth"
[peanut-gallery]|11:57 Tigrita says, "sex: not as much as I'd like"
[peanut-gallery]|11:57 Jota says, "Which is definitely better than being younger than your teeth."
[peanut-gallery]|11:57 Tigrita says (to jota), "oh, I meant younger"
[peanut-gallery]|11:57 Tigrita exclaims, "hooray for typos!"
[peanut-gallery]|11:57 Jota says (to Tigrita), "Ew. Some things should not be hand-me-downs."
[peanut-gallery]|11:58 Tigrita says, "location: state of denial"
[peanut-gallery]|11:58 Gunther says, "AKA Carinthia"
[peanut-gallery]|11:58 Jota asks, "Just east of West Dakota, right?"
[peanut-gallery]|11:58 Tigrita says (to Jota), "eww. Thank you for that mental image."
[peanut-gallery]|11:58 Gunther says, "unless you're not talking about holocaust denial"
[TSD]|11:58 Ryan | http://vermontassociates.org/mature-content/
[peanut-gallery]|11:59 Tigrita says (to gunther), "nah, just general denial. Reality's a nice place, but I wouldnt want to live there"
[TSD]|11:59 Ryan says, "This is one of our brand-new clients. They insisted that this section of the site have this title/URL."
[TSD]|11:59 Gunther says, "blatant hitbaiting"
[TSD]|11:59 Johnny asks, "What's an ociate?"
[TSD]|12:00 Tigrita asks, "do I actually want to follow that link ryan posted?"
[TSD]|12:00 Johnny says, "Well, this is channel is That Sounds Dirty, not #TID."
[lounge]|12:01 maga enters the lounge. Thumps and penitent shrieks follow.
[lounge]|12:01 maga says, "hey"
[lounge]|12:01 Johnny says, "Morning maga"
[lounge]|12:01 DavidW says, "hey maga"
[lounge]|12:02 Tigrita says, "hi maga"
[lounge]|12:03 Tale says, "maga, the man behind the legend"
[lounge]|12:03 genericgeekgirl says, "hi Maga"
[lounge]|12:03 Tigrita asks (of tale), "what's the legend?"
[lounge]|12:04 Johnny says, "It's all about Curly's gold."
[lounge]|12:04 Tigrita says (to tale), "oh-kayyy then"
[lounge]|12:04 Nitku says, "maga is the hero ifmud deserves, not the one it needs"
[lounge]|12:04 Tale says, "I don't really know where I was going with tha - oh, nice save, nitku"
[lounge]|12:05 Tigrita says, "I am going to assume maga dresses up in spandex and runs around throwing grues at people"
[adventures]|12:05 Johnny | http://jjs.at/temp/IMG_0018.PNG
[lounge]|12:06 DavidW says, "well, that's an image to think about."
[adventures]|12:06 Johnny says, "AGS on Ios."
[lounge]|12:06 maga says, "I am pretty sure I don't own any spandex"
[lounge]|12:06 DavidW asks, "none?"
[adventures]|12:06 Johnny says, "So, the Wadjet Eye stuff might be going to tablets, maybe, <rumors rumors rumors>."
[lounge]|12:06 Tigrita says (to maga), "oh right, you've gotta preserve the alter ego"
[lounge]|12:07 Johnny asks (of maga), "I thought you went running?"
[adventures]|12:07 Johnny says, "Whoops."
[lounge]|12:07 inky just fights an octopus one day for no reason.
[lounge]|12:07 inky says, "good morning"
[adventures]|12:08 Johnny | Heh, that's why I'm overhauling the Gemini Rue control system right now so that we can port it to iOS. :)
[lounge]|12:08 ghira shot the mermaid, but he did not shoot the manatee
[lounge]|12:08 ghira says, "meep"
[lounge]|12:08 Johnny says, "Morning inky"
[lounge]|12:08 Tigrita says, "hi inky, we're debating whether maga is a superhero or a supervillain"
[lounge]|12:08 Johnny says, "& ghira"
[lounge]|12:08 maga says (to Johnny), "I wondered about that! but apparently the junk-clinging Underarmor leggings are 100% polyester"
[lounge]|12:08 Tigrita says, "(I vote villain)"
[lounge]|12:13 inky says, "well, he had a weird skin disease"
[lounge]|12:13 inky says, "heroes usually don't have that"
[adventures]|12:13 marc says, "hey, nea"
[lounge]|12:13 vimes says, "unless he's the underdog"
[adventures]|12:13 marc says, "-t"
[lounge]|12:13 vimes says, "or underdogg"
[lounge]|12:14 maga says, "I got better"
[lounge]|12:14 Tigrita says, "i don't really think there are any skin diseases that aren't weird"
[lounge]|12:15 Bishop asks, "Dandruff isn't all that weird, is it?"
[lounge]|12:15 maga says, "mine was a mystery to science"
[lounge]|12:15 vimes asks, "they laughed at your skin condition, but you'll show them, show them all?"
[lounge]|12:15 Tigrita says, "Dandruff is like it's snowing all the time, but only on you"
[lounge]|12:16 Fang exclaims, "romantic!"
[lounge]|12:16 Bishop says (to vimes), "Nah, it was showing them all that made them laugh in the first place."
[lounge]|12:16 Jota asks (of vimes), "One by one, in the examining room, as they each take careful notes and make 'hrm' noises to themselves?"
[lounge]|12:16 maga says, "but it didn't give me any powers other than 'unable to lift heavy objects or open screw-tops'"
[lounge]|12:16 vimes says, "that's an even worse superpower than "transparent fingernails""
[lounge]|12:16 Tigrita says, "I don't think anyone can open screw tops"
[lounge]|12:16 Jota asks (of maga), "Not even a good 'frighten small children'?"
[lounge]|12:16 Tale asks, "Did you get better on your own? Did they call in Dr. House?"
[lounge]|12:16 Tigrita says, "maga, you have epidermis all over your face"
[lounge]|12:17 maga says (to Jota), "nah, there weren't any really disfiguring ones on the face"
[lounge]|12:17 Tigrita says, "Doctor Who is a better doctor than Dr. House, and he's not even a doctor"
[lounge]|12:17 Tale says, "he is a doctor of everything!"
[lounge]|12:18 maga says (to Tale), "pretty much, though they gave me some wacky drugs anyway"
[lounge]|12:18 Tigrita says (to Tale), "I think he's a doctor of complete insanity. and screwdriving"
[lounge]|12:18 vimes says, "plus, jelly babies"
[lounge]|12:18 Emily arrives.
[workplace]|12:18 Bishop says, "So, they've decreased our 'significant financial disclosure' threshold from $150 to $25. Unfortunately, every single member of this department routinely gets free textbooks. We don't, as a general rule, _want_ the damn things, but we receive them and have to disclose receipt to the university. In an 11-page form. Argh."
[lounge]|12:18 maga says, "oh, that's my superpower: a fearsome drug regimen has transformed his body clock into something defying human concepts of time"
[lounge]|12:18 vimes says, "speaking of doctors of complete insanity, it's em"
[lounge]|12:18 Tale says, "I know of only one instance where the sonic screwdriver was used to drive a screw"
[workplace]|12:18 Bishop says, "Fucking high-profile scandals ruining it for all of us."
[workplace]|12:19 Emily says, "whee"
[workplace]|12:19 vimes asks, "haha what how do you get eleven pages out of "this jerk gave me a textbook"?"
[lounge]|12:19 Tigrita says (to vimes), "I never entirely understood what jelly babies are. Maybe they're little transparent babies."
[lounge]|12:20 vimes says, "that is significantly creepier than my "gummi bears only delicious" interpretation"
[workplace]|12:20 Bishop says (to vimes), "There are a million little tickboxes to guarantee we're not doing them any favors."
[lounge]|12:20 maga says (to Tigrita), "that's jellyfish babies, which are quite different"
[workplace]|12:20 Marvin says, "Burn the textbooks and pretend they never existed."
[lounge]|12:20 vimes says, "i had mini jellyfish for dinner once"
[lounge]|12:20 maga says, "they are not actual jellyfish"
[lounge]|12:20 Tigrita exclaims, "Blasphemy! Gummy bears are always delicious!"
[workplace]|12:21 vimes asks (of bishop), "can you pre-tick them all, save it as a template, and then just fill in the appropriate textbook name when needed?"
[lounge]|12:21 maga says, "they're what happens when you get pregnant downwind of a nuclear test site"
[lounge]|12:21 Tigrita says, "except when you have braces, and everyone gets to eat them but you *totally not bitter at all*"
[lounge]|12:21 Tigrita says (to maga), "...disturbing."
[lounge]|12:21 Ellison arrives from the east.
[workplace]|12:21 Bishop says, "With mind-twisting questions like 'Do you or your Immediate Family Members have a relationship with an Entity that is engaged in an academic relationship with the University of Louisville, or any of its Associated Organizations (ULF, ULRF, ULAA)?'. I _think_ the answer is 'no' to that one, but every single term there ('immediate family member', 'relationship', 'entity') has a five-line definition in the instructions."
[lounge]|12:21 Ellison says, "hey all"
[lounge]|12:22 Tigrita says, "I think maga's superpower is conjuring disturbing mental images."
[lounge]|12:22 Tale asks (of ellison), "People have presumed UST between us!!! What do you say to that, snugglebuns?"
[lounge]|12:22 genericgeekgirl says, "Hi Ell"
[lounge]|12:23 Ellison says (to Tale), "considering Alex was the one to let me know what UST is just now, I consider it a threesome"
[lounge]|12:23 Tigrita exclaims, "presumed? it's totally obvious!"
[lounge]|12:24 Tigrita says (to Ellison), "Also, I hope you realize alex is a parrot."
[lounge]|12:24 Tale says, "Well, Ellison is a tit"
[workplace]|12:24 Bishop says, "That's weird. They have a definition of 'vendor', which is surely the class this these publishers fall into, but nowhere in the document itself do they ask about any relationship with vendors."
[law]|12:25 K-Y says, "Myriad is back"
[lounge]|12:25 Tigrita asks (of Tale), "and what are you?"
[law]|12:25 K-Y says, "isolated DNA is patentable"
[lounge]|12:25 Tale says (to tigrita), "That joke only works so far"
[lounge]|12:25 Tigrita does a little jig.
[lounge]|12:25 Jota asks (of Tigrita), "Do you have something against polyamorous bestiality?"
[lounge]|12:26 Tigrita says (to tale), "did i miss something"
[lounge]|12:26 Ellison says, "Tale is a laughing jackass"
[lounge]|12:26 vimes says, "gah, irta "does a little pig""
[lounge]|12:26 Jota says (to vimes), "Ha ha."
[lounge]|12:26 Jota says (to vimes), "How contextually apropos."
[law]|12:26 K-Y says, "method of screening cancer therapeutics is patentable"
[lounge]|12:26 vimes says, "you know, you can eat gummy bears with braces if you slice them up first"
[lounge]|12:27 Tigrita exclaims, "I'm a tiger!"
[lounge]|12:27 vimes says, "turns you into some sort of Hannibal Gummi Lecter"
[lounge]|12:27 vimes says, "ooh, i have an icon for that"
[lounge]|12:27 Jota says, "What I don't get is where you'd find braces small enough to fit into their little gummy mouths."
[law]|12:27 K-Y says, "patent-eligible, I should say"
[lounge]|12:27 vimes says, "yep, here we go: http://l-userpic.livejournal.com/37177592/171681 "
[lounge]|12:28 vimes says (to jota), "the pyjama'd elephant is also a micro-orthodontist"
[lounge]|12:28 Dave is a ninja tree shading his intent from the forest critters.
[workplace]|12:28 vimes says, "so you have commits like a -> b -> c -> d"
[lounge]|12:29 Dave says, "morning"
[jobs]|12:29 Dave says, "gah"
[jobs]|12:29 Dave says, "new gig requires me in at 7:45am for a 3 hour orientation on Monday"
[law]|12:29 K-Y says, "methods of comparing DNA sequences not patent-eligible"
[jobs]|12:29 Dave says, "I define orientation as a "wonderful opportunity to nap""
[lounge]|12:30 Jota says (to vimes), "That's a sentence that may have never before been conceived of in the history of language."
[lounge]|12:30 Johnny does like justice, but that's taking it a bit far.
[lounge]|12:31 Tigrita says, "as long as we're sharing pointlessly adorable tiger gifs, I think you'd like this: http://www.lefthandedtoons.com/879/ "
[lounge]|12:32 vimes says, "yay"
[lounge]|12:32 Tigrita says, "ugh, the mud is making my computer run slow"
[lounge]|12:32 vimes says, "rinse it off"
[lounge]|12:33 Tigrita asks, "Are you trying to make me electrocute myself?"
[lounge]|12:33 vimes says (to jota), "i should really have said something like "the pyjama'd elephant also has a...TINY bit of orthodontic training"
[lounge]|12:33 zarf walks in through the wall. Behind him, light shines briefly through, pale violet this time of day.
[lounge]|12:33 Tigrita exclaims, "hi zarf!"
[lounge]|12:33 zarf says, "hello"
[lounge]|12:34 vimes says, "well, you've already put a bunch of mud on your computer, it can't get much worse"
[lounge]|12:34 olethros has ordered three mega-generators to be installed in his boathouse.
[lounge]|12:34 inky says, "hee hee"
[lounge]|12:34 Tigrita says, "you can't have a bunch of mud. mud doesn't bunch."
[lounge]|12:35 Tigrita says, "i love group words"
[lounge]|12:35 Ryan says, "Don't you tell me what I can or can't have."
[lounge]|12:36 Tigrita exclaims (at Ryan), "NOW YOU LISTEN TO ME YOUNG MAN, OR SO HELP ME I WILL TELL YOUR FATHER ON YOU!"
[lounge]|12:36 Jota says, "'Underwear' isn't a count noun, but it can bunch."
[law]|12:36 K-Y | [I]t is important to state what this appeal is not about. It is not about whether individuals suspected of having an increased risk of developing breast cancer are entitled to a second opinion. Nor is it about whether the University of Utah, the owner of the instant patents, or Myriad, the exclusive licensee, has acted improperly in its licensing or enforcement policies with respect to the patents. The question is also not whether is it desirable for one company to hold a patent or license covering a test that may save people's lives, or for other companies to be excluded from the market encompassed by such a patent--that is the basic right provided by a patent, i.e., to exclude others from practicing the patented subject matter.
[lounge]|12:36 Marvin says, "Ew."
[law]|12:37 K-Y says, "oops, long"
[lounge]|12:37 Tigrita asks, "why are we always talking about underwear?"
[food]|12:37 Gunther says, "I tried that burger"
[food]|12:37 Gunther says, "it was surprisingly not-bad"
[food]|12:37 Gunther says, "but like every other McD thing, empty calories"
[lounge]|12:37 Jota asks, "Did it come up earlier?"
[lounge]|12:37 Jota says, "(Or should I say, 'ride up'?)"
[food]|12:38 Tigrita says, "the most nutritious things at McDonalds are the toys"
[food]|12:38 Jota says, "I think they will give you a small paper cup of water if you ask really nicely."
[lounge]|12:38 Tigrita says (to jota), "maga was talking about her bunching spandex"
[food]|12:38 ghira asks, "is, say, an egg mcmuffin so bad?"
[lounge]|12:38 zarf walks off through the wall; pale violet light flares briefly around him.
[lounge]|12:39 Tigrita says, "why does zarf keep walking through walls? There is a door."
[food]|12:39 ghira says, "or I think there's a "muffin with scrambled egg and cheese" breakfast item"
[lounge]|12:39 Tigrita says, "Maybe he just has no love for structural integrity"
[food]|12:40 Jon says, "I believe the 'scrambled egg' is prepackaged and comes from a factory"
[food]|12:40 Tigrita says (to ghira), "yeah, but they still load everything with too much salt and sugar"
[food]|12:40 Jon says, "they just put it on a muffin and warm it"
[peanut-gallery]|12:41 Jon says, "ah, a newcomer!"
[food]|12:41 Tigrita says, "sounds like my cafeteria food"
[peanut-gallery]|12:41 vimes says, "shut up shut up shut up she's already discovered this channel"
[peanut-gallery]|12:41 Jon says, "haha"
[peanut-gallery]|12:41 Tigrita asks, "so is this the gossip channel?"
[peanut-gallery]|12:41 Jon says, "I'll take it to #sekrit-cabal"
[peanut-gallery]|12:42 Tigrita exclaims, "stalking you there! haha!"
[law]|12:42 inky says, "hmm"
[peanut-gallery]|12:42 Jota says (to Tigrita), "A bit, yeah. It was originally for making side-comments during special events without interfering with the event, but then it grew into making side-comments on stuff in general."
[law]|12:42 inky asks, "aren't there some cases where you can't hold a patent on something because it's too important?"
[politics]|12:42 Jon asks, "hm, so romney is saying his business record should be off-limits for Obama to criticize. So why is he running on it, then?"
[law]|12:42 Jota exclaims, "I patent BREATHING!"
[law]|12:43 Jon says (to inky), "coca cola didn't patent their formula; they keep it a trade secret instead"
[law]|12:43 Jon asks, "or did you mean important to humanity?"
[law]|12:43 Jota says (to Jon), "I am not sure that Coca Cola is, in the grand scheme of things, quite as important as diagnosing cancer."
[law]|12:43 Jon says, "aha"
[law]|12:43 inky says, "but you can clean bones with it"
[peanut-gallery]|12:43 Tigrita asks, "it says there's no such channel as #sekrit-cabal. am I just blocked out on account of not being in on the sekrit or does it actually not exist?"
[law]|12:44 Jon says, "hm. i think the government could nationalize the patent, but that might prove detrimental to future cancer research"
[blokes]|12:44 Dave says, "I'm going to break the rules"
[lounge]|12:44 Tigrita asks, "or would you have to kill me if you told me?"
[peanut-gallery]|12:44 Jon says, "nobody can tell you what the answer is, since you're not in the sekrit cabal"
[peanut-gallery]|12:44 ghira says (to tigrita), "you need to know the secret combination of moves to use on the mud PS2 controller to gain access"
[law]|12:44 Jota says, "In theory, the only way to tell would be to try to create #sekrit-cabal yourself, and see if you can."
[peanut-gallery]|12:44 vimes says, "of course it doesn't exist! there is no such thing as a sekrit cabal, no matter what its members tell you"
[law]|12:44 Jota says, "Ilac."
[blokes]|12:44 (from Jon) Dave says, "Going to TGI Fridays"
[peanut-gallery]|12:44 Jota says, "In theory, the only way to tell would be to try to create #sekrit-cabal yourself, and see if you can."
[law]|12:44 baf exclaims, "Coca cola probably contributes more to the economy than diagnosing cancer. Therefore it must be objectively more important!"
[peanut-gallery]|12:44 Jota says, "In practice... it probably doesn't."
[blokes]|12:45 Dave says, "I met a fairly young woman (mid twenties) who's pretty smart and seems to have a substantive personality...so I'm going to ask her out and I think she'll say yes"
[peanut-gallery]|12:45 Tigrita asks, "up up down down left right left right b a start! Am i in??"
[lounge]|12:45 lpsmith will not type in all the terms; just let it be said someone wore out their thesaurus on this chart.
[lounge]|12:45 Psmith queries his existence.
[blokes]|12:45 Ryan asks, "She's less than half your age plus seven?"
[blokes]|12:45 vimes says, "good luck, sir"
[peanut-gallery]|12:45 baf says, "No, but you have thirty lives now."
[blokes]|12:45 Dave says (to ryan), "yes"
[peanut-gallery]|12:45 Jota says, "Well, you've certainly earned the right to join #videogames"
[blokes]|12:46 Ryan says, "This can only end badly!"
[peanut-gallery]|12:46 baf exclaims, "That's more than three catsworth!"
[peanut-gallery]|12:46 Tigrita says (to baf), "being a cat, i already have nine, but you can never have too much life insurance"
[blokes]|12:46 Jota says (to Ryan), "If no one tells Randall, then perhaps the raptors won't come."
[blokes]|12:46 Dave says (to ryan), "I'm beginning to think that's not such a big deal anymore"
[peanut-gallery]|12:46 Jota says, "Life insurance would be a real racket for cats."
[peanut-gallery]|12:46 Tigrita says, "catsworth is now an official unit of measure."
[peanut-gallery]|12:47 vimes says, "T. Phineus Catsworth, Esq."
[peanut-gallery]|12:47 Jota says, "Worse than selling your organs."
[peanut-gallery]|12:47 inky says, "I thought Catsworth was your butler"
[peanut-gallery]|12:47 Tigrita says, "cats are a real racket in general"
[peanut-gallery]|12:47 Tigrita says, "you can totally tell that cats own their humans"
[law]|12:48 K-Y says (to inky), "actually, there are rules that say 'we'll give your patent application top priority if it's really important'"
[law]|12:48 Jota asks, "To ensure that at least one company is strongly motivated to produce said device?"
[law]|12:48 K-Y says, "let's see, categories"
[peanut-gallery]|12:48 vimes says, "not nearly as much as dogs do, as it turns out"
[peanut-gallery]|12:48 Jota asks (of vimes), "Did you inadvartantly give up your alpha role?"
[peanut-gallery]|12:49 Jon says, "cats have IP rights; dogs have religion."
[peanut-gallery]|12:49 Tigrita says, "one catsworth is equal to nine humans, and ten is a baker's catsworth"
[peanut-gallery]|12:49 vimes says (to Jota), "no, but i also don't want him to poop on the carpet"
[peanut-gallery]|12:49 vimes says, "so if he needs to go out, i let him out; if the cats want to go out, they can suck it up and deal because they have a litter box"
[law]|12:49 K-Y says, "environmental quality, energy, recombinant DNA, superconductivity, AIDS, cancer, counterterrorism"
[peanut-gallery]|12:50 Tigrita says (to vimes), "yeah, my dog totally rules our house"
[channels]|12:51 Bishop asks, "Hmm, is the entire point of #quietMUD being completely mute?"
[peanut-gallery]|12:51 Tigrita says (to vimes), "did you ever use those little paper pee pads when you were housebreaking your dog? I always stepped in those."
[channels]|12:51 Jon says, "yes"
[channels]|12:51 Tale says, "I wonderd that meself"
[law]|12:51 K-Y says, "I can't cite anything about incentives, but presumably"
[channels]|12:51 Bishop exclaims, "It's so mute, Auda doesn't even believe it exists!"
[peanut-gallery]|12:51 vimes says (to tigrita), "i tried - he loved them"
[travel]|12:51 katre says, "eep!"
[peanut-gallery]|12:51 Jon says (to Tigrita), "the problem with those is the dog can't tell the difference between 'this one spot where it is okay to pee' and 'all the other spots where it is not'"
[travel]|12:51 katre says, "I'm leaving for tokyo next week!"
[travel]|12:51 katre says, "I have to start packing!"
[travel]|12:51 Jota asks, "Congratulations?"
[travel]|12:51 inky says, "wow dang"
[peanut-gallery]|12:51 vimes says, ".....to eat"
[travel]|12:51 Jon says, "good luck! have fun!"
[channels]|12:51 K-Y says, "wait, then what's #silence for"
[travel]|12:51 katre says, "(I love toyko)"
[channels]|12:52 vimes says, "monsters jumping out at you"
[travel]|12:52 Jon says, "have a tokyo mudmeet with mamster"
[silence]|12:52 * vimes has joined the channel.
[peanut-gallery]|12:52 Tigrita says, "yeah, but if you get your dog in summer then they'll be all prepared to make yellow snow in winter"
[travel]|12:52 katre says, "I thought he was already back"
[pain]|12:52 genericgeekgirl says, "My left wrist suddenly hurts a ton :/ I'm ready for today to be over."
[channels]|12:52 Bishop says (to K-Y), "Take it to #too-many-channels."
[pain]|12:52 vimes says, "aw"
[travel]|12:52 katre says, "anyway, 7 days in Kyoto and Tokyo, one day in Manila, then back home"
[law]|12:52 K-Y says, "also, hey, here's a quote from this case"
[peanut-gallery]|12:52 vimes says, "frodo /loves/ the snow"
[lounge]|12:52 Tigrita asks, "why do our conversations keep ending up in the toilet?"
[peanut-gallery]|12:52 vimes says, "mostly only to pee in, admittedly"
[peanut-gallery]|12:53 Tigrita says, "you named your dog frodo? Sweet."
[lounge]|12:53 DavidW says, "back from lunch."
[travel]|12:53 Jon says, "his mint.com blog suggested he was still there; but maybe he wrote that back in june or something"
[lunch]|12:53 DavidW says, "Kevin made Reuben sandwiches."
[peanut-gallery]|12:53 Tigrita says, "(not that I've ever read Lord of the Rings, but still, sweet)"
[lunch]|12:53 Bishop exclaims, "Yum, Reubens!"
[lounge]|12:54 Tigrita says, "by the way, I am a total master of all snowball fights"
[webdevelopment]|12:54 Jon asks, "does anyone actually _use_ Mozilla's BrowserID?"
[peanut-gallery]|12:54 vimes says, "he has a ring around his tail."
[law]|12:54 K-Y | We would further note, in the context of discussing what this case is not about, that patents on life-saving material and processes, involving large amounts of risky investment, would seem to be precisely the types of subject matter that should be subject to the incentives of exclusive rights.
[webdevelopment]|12:54 Gunther says, "No (except Ryan)"
[peanut-gallery]|12:55 Tigrita says (to vimes), "take it to #tsd"
[webdevelopment]|12:55 marc says, "heh"
[peanut-gallery]|12:55 DavidW says, "goodness, you know about #tsd already? Fast work."
[peanut-gallery]|12:55 Tigrita says (to david), "yeah, I've been lurking awhile"
[peanut-gallery]|12:56 (from vimes) Jota says, "+3.14"
[webdevelopment]|12:56 Jon says, "I just don't want to set up passwords for this webapp (because then you need to set up password recovery methods)"
[webdevelopment]|12:56 Jon says, "and I thought BrowserID might be decent for people like Jota who don't want Twitter or Google accounts"
[webdevelopment]|12:56 Jon says, "but if nobody uses it, I guess not."
[lounge]|12:57 Tigrita says, "*awkward pause*"
[travel]|12:57 inky says, "I know he's got a standup bit in seattle this weekend"
[travel]|12:57 inky says, "so I assume he must be back soon if not already"
[google]|12:57 Jota says, "Weird streetview artifact: https://www.google.com/maps?q=carpenter+center+manchester,+nh&ll=42.989696,-71.464177&spn=0.006639,0.014935&sll=42.989736,-71.464042&layer=c&cid=15322326999342235519&cbp=13,179.18,,0,-44.68&panoid=noSQKLnwNPQsBm9SngkAgA&hq=carpenter+center+manchester,+nh&t=h&cbll=42.989696,-71.464177&z=17 "
[peanut-gallery]|12:57 Tigrita asks, "So how about those yankees?"
[google]|12:58 inky asks, "the bright light or the arc?"
[speed-if]|12:58 * Tigrita has joined the channel.
[lounge]|12:58 Ellison asks (of Tigrita), "have any of us met you before? did you make it to any of the PAX Easts?"
[webdevelopment]|12:58 Jon says, "also the browserid/persona API requires you to inject remote javascript into your page."
[google]|12:59 Jota says, "The arc."
[google]|12:59 Jota says, "Which I assume is from the light."
[lounge]|12:59 Tigrita says (to ellison), "no, i've never been to any gaming cons. My main area of geekery is manga and webcomics"
[lounge]|13:00 Ellison asks, "what brings you our way? come from another MUD?"
[nostalgia]|13:01 Gunther says, "I'm burning a ... CD."
[nostalgia]|13:01 vimes says, "dang"
[lounge]|13:01 Tigrita says, "I've just been getting into IF (not that I'm any good at it) and i found a link from Emily Short's website."
[lounge]|13:02 Ellison says, "right on"
[lounge]|13:02 Bishop says, "There are definitely comic-enthusiasts here (even though our focus is ostensibly interactive fiction, 'general geekery' is basically the general way of life aroundabouts)."
[speed-if]|13:02 Tigrita says, "say, does anyone go on tv tropes? I am hopelessly addicted to that site."
[lounge]|13:02 vimes says, "you trundle along, not very good at it, until you realize that you're not very good at it but still as good as or better than everyone else you kow"
[speed-if]|13:02 vimes says, "not if we can help it"
[speed-if]|13:03 DavidW says, "I keep getting sucked into the tvtropes vortex, but I will try to resist."
[speed-if]|13:03 Tigrita says, "whoops, wrong channel (That was only the second time I've done that today. I'm very proud of myself.)"
[speed-if]|13:03 vimes says, "yeah, i like occasionally being productive"
[speed-if]|13:03 Jon says (to Tigrita), "you want #TropesWiki"
[TropesWiki]|13:03 * Tigrita has joined the channel.
[TropesWiki]|13:03 * Binder has joined the channel.
[speed-if]|13:04 Binder says (to Tigrita), "Everytime some gaffes like that I learn of a new # channel."
[speed-if]|13:04 Binder says, "+one"
[TropesWiki]|13:04 Tigrita asks, "man, there's so many channels. how do you guys keep track of them all?"
[TropesWiki]|13:04 Bishop says, "We don't, for the most part."
[TropesWiki]|13:05 Gunther says, "we just join every one and let God sort them out"
[TropesWiki]|13:05 DavidW says, "yeah, we mostly use only a small fraction of 'em."
[TropesWiki]|13:05 Tale says, "there's #too-many-channels for this sort of complaint"
[TropesWiki]|13:05 Tigrita says, "that makes sense"
[stevejobs]|13:05 Steve says, "Still waiting for my hotel info from Amazon.  Flight is squared away"
[too-many-channels]|13:05 * Binder has joined the channel.
[TropesWiki]|13:05 Binder says (to Tale), "... I thought you were kidding. You weren't kidding."
[TropesWiki]|13:05 Tigrita says, "and of course there is a channel to complain about too many channels. Oh, the delicious irony."
[TropesWiki]|13:06 DavidW says, "Also, if in doubt about which channel to use for something, ask on #channels"
[TropesWiki]|13:06 Tale says, "I'm always serious."
[TropesWiki]|13:06 baf says, "There's @listch -recent"
[channels]|13:06 * Binder has joined the channel.
[TropesWiki]|13:06 Tigrita says, "irony is never not delicious."
[TropesWiki]|13:06 baf says, "which tells you what channels people are actually using"
[TropesWiki]|13:06 vimes says, "i use '@listc -nomember -recent'"
[TropesWiki]|13:06 Tigrita says, "except when people use it wrong, which i probably do, but whatever"
[TropesWiki]|13:06 DavidW says, "Incidentally, there's also a #not-enough-channels"
[TropesWiki]|13:06 Tale says, "You can also try the channel name to see if it's taken"
[midwest]|13:06 * vimes has joined the channel.
[hee-hee]|13:06 * vimes has joined the channel.
[Olympics]|13:06 * vimes has joined the channel.
[trains]|13:06 * vimes has joined the channel.
[TropesWiki]|13:06 Bishop says, "Me, I deal with the enormous collection of channels by having a script which automatically joins any channel people mention which I'm not on."
[lounge]|13:07 Tigrita facepalms
[speed-if]|13:07 Jota asks, "How about the theory that George Washington Carver was a Time Lord? Or the narrow street behind the legume-processing plant? Or the building where they display and sell artworks made from discarded shells?"
[speed-if]|13:07 Jota says, "Gah, Ilac."
[speed-if]|13:07 Tigrita asks, "if what??"
[speed-if]|13:07 Binder says, "That sounds like a speed-if premise"
[peanut-gallery]|13:08 ghira says, "I thought "gallery" was what gals did so peanut-gallery was where you talked about things typical of peanut gals"
[speed-if]|13:08 Jota says, "'Ilac' is short for 'I like a channel', something often said to indicate that one had intended a remark to be on some particular (other) channel."
[TropesWiki]|13:08 Tale says, "@listc -recent -nomember   is helpful when you're on lots of channels already."
[law]|13:08 K-Y says, "hmm, concurrence"
[peanut-gallery]|13:08 DavidW says, "I think that's #girl-chat"
[speed-if]|13:09 Tigrita says, "doing a speed if would be fun, except i can't really program"
[law]|13:09 K-Y | The settled expectations of the biotechnology industry - not to mention the thousands of issued patents - cannot be taken lightly and deserve deference.
[people-suk]|13:09 Ellison says, "new people who come on here to go on about general geekery remind me of this Friends bit where they made fun of Phoebe for feeling connected to people who like the Beatles and puppies"
[GirlGenius]|13:09 DavidW says, "hm. or maybe not. Guess I've forgotten the actual name."
[speed-if]|13:09 vimes says, "anyone can do a one-move game"
[GirlGenius]|13:09 DavidW says, "ilac"
[speed-if]|13:09 vimes says, "not everyone can do anything worthwhile with it, of course"
[people-suk]|13:09 Bishop says, "Eh, this one doesn't seem that bad."
[peanut-gallery]|13:09 DavidW says, "hm. or maybe not. Guess I've forgotten the actual name."
[people-suk]|13:10 Gunther says, "already better than Olly"
[speed-if]|13:10 Bishop asks, "Is 'Aisle' worthwhile?"
[people-suk]|13:10 Ellison says, "heh"
[speed-if]|13:10 Tale says, "A one-move Speed IF would be fun"
[people-suk]|13:11 Bishop says, "I mean, for better or worse, we kind of _are_ a general-geekery group these days. With a delicious chewy IF center."
[speed-if]|13:11 Tigrita says, "i liked aisle, when it wasn't totally creeping me out"
[speed-if]|13:11 Tigrita says, "also, pick up the phone booth and aisle was really funny"
[people-suk]|13:11 Jota says, "Yeah, old people come on here to go on about general geekery too."
[people-suk]|13:12 Ellison says, "yeah, but it's not 'do you guys like tvtropes? I like tvtropes!'"
[people-suk]|13:12 Jota says, "True."
[people-suk]|13:12 Jota says, "(OK, I guess -0.5 points.)"
[speed-if]|13:12 Tigrita asks, "oh no, have I really been chatting on here for an hour straight?"
[speed-if]|13:13 vimes asks, "only an hour?"
[speed-if]|13:13 Tale says, "take it to #time-thieves"
[people-suk]|13:13 Gunther says, "man, Jota's running score commentary. -1.5"
[people-suk]|13:13 Jota says, "Ha ha."
[speed-if]|13:13 maga asks (of Tale), "wasn't that Apollo 18+20, really?"
[people-suk]|13:13 Ellison says, "ha ha"
[speed-if]|13:13 Binder says (to Tale), "-_-"
[speed-if]|13:14 DavidW says, "well, Apollo 18+20 was only one-move for the Fingertips subgames, and it wasn't a speed-if either."
[speed-if]|13:14 Tigrita says, "ok, i'd love to stay and chat more, but i think i have a life to go lead. bye everyone"
[lounge]|13:14 Tigrita goes home.
[people-suk]|13:15 Gunther says, "insulting, eh. -10"
[people-suk]|13:15 Ellison says, "ha"
[facebook]|13:17 K-Y says, "Short Sellers Circle Facebook With Lockup Ending"
[facebook]|13:17 K-Y says, "paste"
[lounge]|13:17 Nitku leaves.
[facebook]|13:17 Gunther says, "#schadenfreude uuuuuupupupupupupupuuuu"
[lounge]|13:17 Nitku will come to the conclusion that one of them is hallucinating and further conclude that the hallucination is due to poison ingestion.
[lounge]|13:18 Ellison says, "crb"
[lounge]|13:18 Ellison goes back to Squeamhurst..
[lounge]|13:18 * Ellison has disconnected.
[drwho]|13:20 boucher says, "Since mentioning it the other day, I've found myself rewatching Logopolis for the millionth time"
[speed-if]|13:20 Tale says, "A life? What's that?`"
[speed-if]|13:20 Alex says (to Tale), "Awwwk! Word on the street is that Life is like a box of chocolates."
[Sierra]|13:21 Gunther | Lori Cole and Corey Cole, the master minds behind the Quest For Glory series are coming on to talk with Chris Pope live within the next few days! Lori and Corey will be talking about their history with Sierra along with a little info on their upcoming Kickstarter plans!
[lounge]|13:23 Hjalfi enthusiastically mundanifies between spasms of personality-occultism and off-topic casual/social-leveraging.
[quotations]|13:25 Jota | We are human, we judge first impressions based solely on looks, it has evolutionary implications in human survival. I'd recon that people who don't judge on appearance alone are equally as small a portion of the population as those who do not fear many natural preditors i.e spiders, snakes, lions etc.
[quotations]|13:26 inky says, "hmm"
[quotations]|13:26 Jota says, "So it's confirmed: judging people on appearance alone is as fundamentally natural as expecting to be eaten by spiders."
[quotations]|13:26 inky says, "hee hee hee"
[quotations]|13:26 inky says, "I guess the lion is the closest thing on that list to a predator on humans"
[quotations]|13:26 vimes says, ""do you look like a spider? no? hottttttttttt""
[spam]|13:27 vimes | STOP! DON'T DELETE!  WATCH THESE TWO back to back videos this could be a game changer BLACK FEMAL ATTOURNEY EXPOSES DEM FRAUD TO GET BO ELECTED
[wikileaks]|13:28 Gunther says, "Oooh, in a stunning reversal"
[wikileaks]|13:28 Gunther says, "You know who didn't raid any embassies? Hitler."
[wikileaks]|13:28 Gunther says, "also"
[wikileaks]|13:28 Jota asks, "So... everyone else but the UK is Hitler now?"
[wikileaks]|13:28 Gunther | UK refused to extradite murderer Pinochet and allowed Libyan Embassy murderer of PC Yvonne Fletcher to walk free
[quotations]|13:29 maga says, "I vaguely recall that fear of snakes is innate and fear of spiders is learned, or at least emerges considerably later in development"
[wikileaks]|13:29 Gunther says (to Jota), "no, just the UK is potentially worse than him."
[quotations]|13:29 inky says (to maga), "hunH!"
[quotations]|13:29 inky says, "er, -h"
[quotations]|13:30 maga says (to inky), "lies! I'm really more of a Vandal"
[quotations]|13:30 vimes says (to inky), "you thrust your fear of snakes, hunH!"
[quotations]|13:30 Ryan says, "My anaconda don't want none unless you got buns, hunH!"
[sigh]|13:30 Gunther | Steve Jackson Games has signed a deal with Paizo for Munchkin Pathfinder
[quotations]|13:30 vimes says (to maga), "you visigoth!"
[sigh]|13:31 Jon says, "well, they had D20 munchkin back in the day"
[quotations]|13:31 Ryan says (to vimes), "I can't believe you have the gaul to call him that."
[sigh]|13:31 Jon asks, "so this is just brushing off the dust and adding extra brokenness, right?"
[sigh]|13:31 Gunther says, "no, no"
[quotations]|13:31 inky says, "hee hee"
[quotations]|13:31 vimes says, "hee hee"
[sigh]|13:31 Gunther says, "it's a munchkin card game based on Pathfinder"
[sigh]|13:31 Jon says, "oh."
[sigh]|13:32 Jon says, "well, whatever pays the bills, I guess."
[wikileaks]|13:32 Fang asks (of Gunther), "that is bullshit, you know that, right?"
[wikileaks]|13:32 Fang says, "because the law in question here"
[wikileaks]|13:32 Fang says, "was created after the Fletcher case"
[quotations]|13:32 Ryan says, "I guess you're just being perfectly Frank."
[quotations]|13:32 maga says (to Ryan), "iceni what you did there"
[sigh]|13:33 Gunther says, "also http://lockerz.com/s/235240105 "
[sigh]|13:33 Gunther says (to Jon), "yes, it all pays the bills."
[sigh]|13:33 baf says, "I'm still having difficulty seeing how Muchkin based on Pathfinder differs significantly from plain vanilla Munchkin. Perhaps I'm expecting too much."
[sigh]|13:34 Gunther says (to baf), "different injokes and illustrations."
[sigh]|13:34 inky asks, "oh, this is munchkin based on pathfinder and not pathfinder based on munchkin?"
[sigh]|13:34 Gunther says, "possibly a slightly different mechanic"
[quotations]|13:34 Ryan says, "I am trying, and failing, to come up with an ostrogoth pun."
[sigh]|13:34 Gunther says (to inky), "unless I completely misunderstand"
[beer]|13:35 inky | A revealing moment came Monday, when Obama told a tent of drinkers at the Iowa State Fair that he.d buy a round of beers for 10 people, but not for one person carrying a sign of support for Gov. Mitt Romney.
[beer]|13:35 inky |
[beer]|13:35 inky | At the beer tent, the drinkers .started chanting, .four more beers!.. according to the pool report.
[dinner]|13:35 ghira says, "pasta with ricotta and zucchine"
[quotations]|13:35 Jota asks (of Ryan), "So instead you're going to ostro-cize them?"
[quotations]|13:35 maga says, "ostrogoth you glad you're not iceni"
[vegetarian]|13:35 genericgeekgirl says, "Neat. I contacted the cafeteria at work about offering more vegan options, and I actually got a positive response."
[vegetarian]|13:35 inky says, ""Up Yours!", they said"
[vegetarian]|13:36 maga says, "meatiness++;"
[quotations]|13:36 Gunther says, "o stro goth novor hort onoono"
[beer]|13:36 Ryan says, "Seems to me that buying a beer for the Romney supporter is the sort of thing that might make said Romney supporter think more favorably of him."
[vegetarian]|13:37 genericgeekgirl says, "My lunch the other day consisted of the one bottled protein smoothie that didn't contain milk (out of a half dozen or so) and a bottle of V8. I usually pack my lunch, but once in a while, I don't have anything to bring and I'm left hunting for lunch."
[vegetarian]|13:37 Ryan says, "We will do our best to meat your needs."
[beer]|13:37 maga says (to Ryan), "I am withholding judgement on this issue until I can determine the specific beer involved"
[beer]|13:38 inky says, "ha ha"
[beer]|13:38 maga says, "photographs suggest Bud Light"
[beer]|13:38 maga says, "so basically he lost 10 votes"
[beer]|13:39 inky says, "iowa state fair, man"
[beer]|13:39 inky says, "as long as the beer was deep-fried it's all good"
[vegetarian]|13:40 ghira says, "the new "austerity canteen" at work is a bit grim"
[vegetarian]|13:40 inky says, "ha ha"
[vegetarian]|13:40 inky asks, "it's not really called the austerity canteen, is it?"
[vegetarian]|13:40 ghira says, "not by the people who run it, no."
[vegetarian]|13:41 ghira says, "but it's referred to like that by quite a few of the rest of us"
[vegetarian]|13:41 maga says, "famine-themed foodstuffs from around the world"
[vegetarian]|13:41 * annabianca has joined the channel.
[vegetarian]|13:41 ghira says, "it was transformed a few weeks ago into a low-budget version of itself"
[vegetarian]|13:42 ghira says, "4 days out of 5 the vegetarian option is a jacket potato with beans and/or cheese."
[vegetarian]|13:42 maga says, "Japanese millet water with ashcan-braised ratte Norvege"
[vegetarian]|13:42 ghira says, "today was the 5th day. herby vegetable couscous."
[vegetarian]|13:43 ghira says, "and in line with austerity measures in general prices went up as part of the transformation"
[lounge]|13:43 two-star sought a woman and found a monkey. Well, it happens.
[vegetarian]|13:44 inky says, "harsh"
[vegetarian]|13:47 GDorn says, "I'm reminded of a project the student government ran during poverty awareness week, in which they got the cafeteria to produce meals of various levels of wealth and apportioned them randomly to participants."
[vegetarian]|13:48 GDorn says, "I got beans and tortillas, which was the 'poverty' meal."
[lounge]|13:48 Rotonoto arrives from the east.
[vegetarian]|13:48 GDorn says, "it was better than most of the vegetarian options the cafeteria normally offered."
[vegetarian]|13:48 Ryan says, "Yum"
[vegetarian]|13:48 ghira asks, "wouldn't the poverty meal have been nothing?"
[housing]|13:48 Steve says, "Uploading all my refinance documentation"
[vegetarian]|13:49 Ryan says, "You get the poverty meal! The dumpster is out back."
[vegetarian]|13:49 GDorn says, "yeah, it probably wasn't the most accurate representation"
[vegetarian]|13:49 maga says (to ghira), "it's rice and beans, but you have to drink out of the toilet"
[vegetarian]|13:49 ghira says (to maga), "ah ok"
[vegetarian]|13:50 GDorn says, "afterwards, a bunch of us vegetarians asked if they would keep making 'poverty' meals for us, but I think they were offended."
[vegetarian]|13:50 Ryan says, "Ha ha"
[housing]|13:51 ghira says, "sort of related news here http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19288216 "
[housing]|13:51 GDorn asks, "wacky.  2.99% is low?"
[Futurama]|13:53 Gunther says, "I think I may have to create my own virtual season 5 from seasons 5-7 if it keeps going like this"
[housing]|13:53 ghira says, "I think so"
[housing]|13:53 Ryan says, "Uh, it's low in the U.S. too."
[housing]|13:54 ghira says, "it's low for a mortgage taken out today I think"
[housing]|13:55 ghira says, "e.g. my own bank is currently offering 4.29"
[housing]|13:55 Gunther says, "MORTGAGE.BAS agrees"
[housing]|13:56 ghira says, "(fixed for 5 years)"
[housing]|13:56 Steve says, "My refinance is at 3.75%"
[housing]|13:56 vimes says, "i think we got 5% or thereabouts, on a 15-year fixed"
[housing]|13:56 vimes says, "(three years ago)"
[housing]|13:56 ghira asks (of steve), "did you sort out that "why are the repayments not lower?" thing?"
[housing]|13:56 Alex says (to ghira), "Awwwk! Word on the street is that a thing is that which makes you go "hmm"."
[apropos-of-nothing]|13:56 Gunther says, "I have another baffling and idiotic request for old stuff I barely remember!"
[apropos-of-nothing]|13:57 vimes says, "protip: it's your mom"
[housing]|13:57 Steve says, "I sorted it by going with a different lender :)"
[lounge]|13:57 olethros was sworn in by robed priests on Thursday morning.
[apropos-of-nothing]|13:57 Gunther says, "it was IBM's 3.5" DOS-based software suite"
[housing]|13:57 ghira says, "sounds like a good move"
[lounge]|13:57 olethros says, "re"
[apropos-of-nothing]|13:57 Gunther says, "it used the ***function keys*** to run stuff and had awesome ascii art of 3d buttons"
[apropos-of-nothing]|13:58 vimes asks, "hm, was that their POS suite, or what were you thinking of?"
[apropos-of-nothing]|13:59 Gunther asks, "suite?"
[apropos-of-nothing]|13:59 Gunther says, "I don't even remember what it did, unfortunately"
[apropos-of-nothing]|13:59 vimes says, "you know, seperate bedroom and sitting room"
[apropos-of-nothing]|14:00 Gunther says, "..."
[lounge]|14:01 Rotonoto goes home.
[comics]|14:03 ghira asks, "the dandy is closing?"
[apropos-of-nothing]|14:03 vimes says, "i just vaguely remember there was a point-of-sale system by IBM in the dos days"
[comics]|14:03 ghira says, "not that I've _ever_ been a reader but crikey"
[apropos-of-nothing]|14:03 Gunther says, "oh, no, it was an end-user thing"
[comics]|14:03 ghira says, "I have been sort of aware of its existence"
[lounge]|14:06 StephenW, porn, StephenW, porn, StephenW.
[apropos-of-nothing]|14:07 vimes says, "hmm, no idea"
[housing]|14:09 Jota says, "I like how one of the related bits on that page is:"
[housing]|14:09 Jota | How to be a first-time buyer
[housing]|14:09 Jota exclaims, "This seems pretty self-explanatory to me. Step 1: Don't buy a house. Step 2: Buy a house!"
[housing]|14:10 inky says, "ha ha"
[housing]|14:10 inky asks, "step 3: ???"
[housing]|14:10 inky says, "step 4: Loss"
[stevejobs]|14:10 Steve says, "OK, got my Seattle hotel reservation"
[housing]|14:10 vimes says, "step 5: forget to sell your bitcoins"
[stevejobs]|14:11 Steve says, "I am staying at the Westin on 5th avenue"
[health]|14:11 Tale asks, "How come, sometimes my antibiotics totally fuck up my stomach, and other times I have no side effects at all?"
[stevejobs]|14:11 Steve says, "Which looks to be a 5 minute walk to the Amazon building"
[health]|14:12 Jota says, "Some of them are good at killing the bacteria that live in your stomach."
[health]|14:12 Tale says, "I've taken the same ones for 3 weeks now"
[stevejobs]|14:13 Matthew says, "Woo Westin."
[stevejobs]|14:13 Steve says, "I am hoping they have an airport shuttle"
[stevejobs]|14:13 Steve says, "I should try to find out"
[stevejobs]|14:14 Steve says, "OK, not for free"
[stevejobs]|14:15 Steve says, "Looks like $2.50 to take the light rail, though"
[stevejobs]|14:15 Steve says, "So I guess we go with that"
[stevejobs]|14:15 inky says, "the light rail is pretty easy"
[stevejobs]|14:17 Steve says, "CTA worked just fine in Chicago yesterday"
[stevejobs]|14:17 inky asks, "oh yeah, how did that go with the suit and all?"
[stevejobs]|14:17 Steve says, "I would definitely rather take the train and eat the $5 than do a taxi, which stresses me out, and try to expense it"
[stevejobs]|14:18 Steve says, "Suit got pretty warm, but was bearable"
[tale]|14:18 Tale says, "I mostly slacked off in this week of vacation"
[stevejobs]|14:18 Steve says, "Once the interview was over I put my suit coat and tie in my carry-on and rolled up my sleeves like so much Mitt Romney"
[health]|14:18 Ryan says, "Geez, I've never had a course of antibiotics that lasted more than 10 days."
[stevejobs]|14:18 inky says, "hee hee"
[tale]|14:18 Tale says, "And believe or not, I'm getting tired of it. Luckily, there's only one day left."
[jobs]|14:19 katre says, "orker at the next desk brough his dog to work today"
[jobs]|14:19 katre says, "the dog is very friendly and well-behaved"
[health]|14:19 inky says, "the last time I took them they gave me these five-day ones"
[jobs]|14:19 katre says, "but the occasional bark makes me jump"
[jobs]|14:19 (from inky) katre says "But its coding is terrible"
[health]|14:19 Steve says, "I have mixed results with the z-pack"
[jobs]|14:19 katre says, "hee hee"
[jobs]|14:19 Jon asks, "haven't been around dogs much?"
[jobs]|14:20 katre says (to jon), "more 'startled' than 'scared'"
[jobs]|14:20 Jon says, "ah"
[tale]|14:20 Nitku asks, "Does your boss know you've been slacking off??"
[tale]|14:20 Tale says, "Yeah, this seems unusual, but Dr. Google says in this case it's not unusual"
[tale]|14:20 Tale says, "ilac"
[health]|14:20 Tale says, "Yeah, this seems unusual, but Dr. Google says in this case it's not unusual"
[sf]|14:20 Matthew says, "#longshot Anyone here ever stayed at The Mosser hotel?  It's kind of over by Moscone West."
[channels]|14:20 Matthew asks, "Er, wait, what's the San Francisco channel?"
[sf]|14:20 inky says, "unless it is in space you want #sf-bay-area"
[jobs]|14:20 Jon says, "(We formerly had a coworker who, as a devout muslim, did not want to come in contact with any dogs. But I figured that was less likely to be the case here, since you converted as an adult.)"
[sf]|14:21 Tale says, "I wil stay there in 2145."
[channels]|14:21 Jon says, "#sf-bay"
[sf-bay-area]|14:21 Matthew says, "#longshot Anyone here ever stayed at The Mosser hotel?  It's kind of over by Moscone West."
[channels]|14:21 Matthew exclaims, "Thanks.  I tried #sanfrancisco, I tried #bayarea, none of them worked!"
[sf-bay-area]|14:21 vimes says, "oh hey, i stayed there once"
[jobs]|14:21 katre says, "I have no problem with this"
[tangent]|14:21 Tale says, "Muslims aren't allowed contact with dogs? That's new to me."
[sf-bay-area]|14:21 Matthew asks (of vimes), "How was it?"
[sf-bay-area]|14:21 vimes says, "it was pretty nice"
[sf-bay-area]|14:21 * inky has added the synonym #misc/places/bayarea to the channel.
[tangent]|14:21 Jon says, "My understanding is dogs are considered unclean."
[tangent]|14:21 inky says, "they're unclean, it's not that they're not allowed contact"
[sf-bay-area]|14:21 Matthew says, "Okay, cool."
[tangent]|14:21 Gunther says, "nobody likes a dog"
[tangent]|14:22 inky says, "so you have to, eg, rewash before prayers"
[tangent]|14:22 katre says, "right"
[tangent]|14:22 inky says, "(I believe the same thing is true for orthodox jews)"
[sf-bay-area]|14:22 Matthew says, "It looks like I'll be in San Franciscoo for IDF, and that's (by far) the cheapest hotel in the area, it looks like."
[sf-bay-area]|14:22 vimes says, "it didn't manage to impose on my heavy vacation schedule of eating at every restaurant in a 10-mile radius and then completely ignoring the room while i was in it"
[tangent]|14:22 katre says, "it's not so much 'don't do it', it's 'wach up afterwards'"
[tangent]|14:22 Jon says, "Maaz was very strict about purity; he refused to eat the halal chicken available in the cafes here because he didn't know if their halal observance level was up to his standards."
[tangent]|14:22 katre says, "wash"
[tangent]|14:22 Tale asks, "Does that apply to all animals?"
[tangent]|14:22 inky says, "that is pretty strict"
[lounge]|14:22 Ellison arrives from the east.
[tangent]|14:22 Gunther says, "dogs, pigs at least"
[tangent]|14:22 inky says, "I think muslims are down with cats"
[lounge]|14:22 Ellison says, "re"
[tangent]|14:22 two-star says (to inky), "Muslims can't touch orthodox jews? That's harsh."
[sf-bay-area]|14:22 * Binder has joined the channel.
[tangent]|14:23 katre says (to tale), "pretty much. dogs are, I think, especially unclean, but I don't know any details and don't worry about it enough to learn them"
[tangent]|14:23 Gunther says, "I'm sure there is a massively complicated list"
[tangent]|14:23 Tale asks (of katre), "ISTR you have cats?"
[tangent]|14:23 katre says (to inky), "there are great hadith about the Prophet and cats that I remind my in-laws about when my cat freaks them out"
[tangent]|14:23 Gunther | The Qur'an expressly forbids consumption of "the flesh of swine"[24] There are no other "impure animals" explicitly named in the Qur'an.
[tangent]|14:23 katre says, "(in general bangladeshis aren't used to pets, is my experience)"
[google]|14:24 Allen asks, "when did google change its favicon?"
[tangent]|14:24 Gunther | On the other hand, in Islamic tradition there are many animals that are not considered good for eating, and therefore haraam. These include lions, tigers, eagles, crows, vultures, kites and scorpions
[google]|14:24 inky says, "hmm"
[google]|14:24 inky says, "I think it was semi-recently"
[google]|14:24 Matthew asks, "They changed them all semi-recently, didn't they?"
[google]|14:24 Matthew says, "(For all the Google properties, I mean.0"
[music]|14:24 Jon says, "yay, musopen uploaded the music from their kickstarter"
[tangent]|14:24 Tale says, "Yes, food that tries to eat you first is problematic in my experience"
[tangent]|14:24 inky says, "delicious kite"
[tangent]|14:25 vimes says, "i don't know, shark is delicious"
[tangent]|14:25 katre says, "any land animal with claws is right out"
[tangent]|14:25 katre says, "I'll never have alligator steak, I guess..."
[music]|14:25 Jon | http://blog.musopen.org/post/29482882056/done-and-done-musopen-kickstarter-project
[tangent]|14:25 Tale says (to katre), "No loss"
[music]|14:25 vimes says, "huzzah, archive.org torrent"
[tangent]|14:25 inky says, "and no behirs"
[tangent]|14:25 katre says (to inky), "hee hee"
[D&D]|14:26 katre says, "#tangent I once carved a behir open to rescue a trapped barbarian. the barbarian was fine"
[cute]|14:26 vimes | https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/311391_10150414460263885_507566488_n.jpg
[tangent]|14:26 Ryan says (to katre), "Most birds have claws, and are generally tasty."
[tangent]|14:26 Jearl says, "in fantasy feudal Asia, behir eats you!"
[Canada]|14:26 K-Y says, "eeeagh"
[tangent]|14:26 katre says (to ryan), "birds don't count"
[Canada]|14:26 K-Y | Severed head and foot found in Mississauga river
[tangent]|14:26 Jearl says, "unless you're Huge"
[music]|14:26 Jon says, "I was disappointed there wasn't more Beethoven."
[sf-bay-area]|14:26 * annabianca has joined the channel.
[tangent]|14:26 Ryan says, "But they spell great! (ba-dum)"
[tangent]|14:27 Tale says, "ha"
[music]|14:27 Jon says, "Musopen still doesn't have the Symphony No. 7"
[D&D]|14:27 Jearl says, "we had our druid eaten by a behir. He turned into a brown bear"
[movie]|14:27 Tale says (to k-y), "You were right about the angst being a bit much in the original Spiderman trilogy"
[D&D]|14:27 Jearl says, "it was not the behir's best day"
[D&D]|14:28 katre says, "ha ha"
[D&D]|14:28 katre says, "that's excellent"
[D&D]|14:28 two-star says, "This is what happens when you don't chew before you swallow."
[D&D]|14:30 vimes says, "inbeargestion"
[seattle]|14:30 Steve asks, "OK, so I know when I'm coming in and where I'm staying now.  What's the best way to make plans to see folks?"
[seattle]|14:30 Steve says, "I don't know where to eat or anything like that"
[seattle]|14:30 vimes says, "poke maga repeatedly"
[seattle]|14:31 Jearl asks, "until he disgorges a nutritious slurry?"
[seattle]|14:31 vimes says, "right, but make sure you have a cup"
[seattle]|14:31 vimes says, "the canteen also works, but you won't find that until later"
[seattle]|14:31 Steve says, "Two magas, one cup"
[tangent]|14:31 Matthew says, "I have no idea what people on #seattle are talking about, but I can't stop laughing at it."
[lounge]|14:31 StephenW will never really leave... he will live on in your hearts.
[lounge]|14:31 * StephenW has disconnected.
[D&D]|14:31 Jota says, "I wonder if there are lots more D&D creatures who swallow prey whole than real animals."
[D&D]|14:32 katre says, "as a DM who has been repeatedly disappointed by 4th edition Swallow attacks, yes"
[D&D]|14:32 GDorn says, "well, behir are reptillian, and lots of reptiles don't chew"
[D&D]|14:32 Jearl says, "I dunno, there are a whole lot of predatorial snakes and I don't think they chew"
[seattle]|14:32 Steve asks, "So if I want to find a band or other event that might happen to be in town that night, I should check The Stranger, probably?"
[seattle]|14:32 inky says, "yeah, that seems reasonable"
[D&D]|14:32 Jearl says, "I guess they don't swallow prey *alive* often though"
[D&D]|14:32 inky says, "D&D in general has more predatory animals than the real world, I am pretty sure"
[D&D]|14:33 vimes says, "that's because sheep give no xp"
[seattle]|14:33 Steve says, "Ofc, seems to be blocked at work as an Entertainment site"
[seattle]|14:33 Steve asks, "Seattle Weekly a good backup?"
[D&D]|14:33 vimes says, "DIRE SHEEP presumably do"
[ads]|14:33 Allen says, "cosmetic surgery ad: http://adsoftheworld.com/media/print/clinica_dempere_health?size=_original "
[D&D]|14:33 Jearl says, "they just give you dire srapie"
[D&D]|14:33 Jearl asks, "scrapie?"
[seattle]|14:33 inky says, "in my limited experience, yes"
[D&D]|14:34 katre says, "Dite Scrapple is my favorite drink/paint thinner"
[D&D]|14:34 vimes says, "licky end"
[seattle]|14:34 inky says, "anyway, when vimes was in town we went to the cyclops, which wasn't bad but is more of a bar with food"
[seattle]|14:34 vimes says, "good beer, though"
[seattle]|14:35 vimes says, "and the sandwich i had was pretty tasty although i don't remember what it was a tall now"
[D&D]|14:35 Bishop asks, "Trying to work out how the D&D ecosystem _actually_ works is an exercise in futility. How do all these species with exotic dietary needs survive?"
[seattle]|14:35 vimes says, "er, at all"
[D&D]|14:35 katre says (to bishop), "wizards"
[D&D]|14:35 vimes says, "wiz yeah, what katre said"
[D&D]|14:35 katre says, "there's a conspiracy of wizards going around giving vitamins to owlbears"
[D&D]|14:35 vimes says, "they poke maga repeatedly"
[D&D]|14:35 inky says, "a wizard fed it"
[D&D]|14:36 vimes says, "do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, for you are crunchy and a necessary part of this complete owlbear breakfast"
[D&D]|14:36 katre says, "speaking of D&D, I posted this on G+ but these are totally the maps for my next campaign: http://www.laboiteverte.fr/de-la-neige-au-microscope/ "
[D&D]|14:36 Fang asks, "alot... even most D&D campaigns don't complete, right?"
[D&D]|14:36 Fang asks, "so, what happens to the adventurers?"
[D&D]|14:36 Fang says, "the answer: owlbear kibosh"
[drwho]|14:36 Jota says, " http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3OJGVKzdfU -- discussion of the first episode of the new series."
[D&D]|14:37 inky says, "they're like crazy moonscapes"
[D&D]|14:41 Tale says, "I like browsing through Monster & Manuals, even though I never actually played the game"
[seattle]|14:41 Steve says, "I'm not picky about a place being a bar"
[seattle]|14:41 Steve asks, "Particularly because I presume there's no smoking in them there, yes?"
[seattle]|14:42 maga says, "right"
[seattle]|14:42 inky says, "yeah, it's great"
[seattle]|14:42 Steve says, "They banned it here a few years back and I wish I was younger and actually still went out"
[English]|14:43 Ryan says, "Hah, I just learned the term "sweat equity"."
[English]|14:43 Ryan says, "That's awesome."
[English]|14:44 vimes says, "heh, indeed"
[seattle]|14:44 Steve asks, "This menu looks good.  How convenient is the location?  Or would people want to go somewhere else because they went here recently, do you think?"
[seattle]|14:44 maga says, "the Bookstore Bar is also pretty good, if a little on the pricey side"
[English]|14:45 vimes says, "less horrible if you go during happy hour, of course"
[seattle]|14:46 maga says, "although it's mostly pricey because the drinks are good and you end up having a lot of them"
[law]|14:46 Gunther | Judge Koh asks Apple's attorneys if they're 'smoking crack' http://bit.ly/MAJVwb
[seattle]|14:46 Steve says, "This doesnt look too bad, either"
[seattle]|14:47 maga says, "as for the Cyclops, it's about ten minutes from Jacq and I in one direction, and ten minutes from Emily in the other"
[seattle]|14:47 inky says, "location-wise it's all fine"
[seattle]|14:48 inky says, "if we end up with six or so people is that going to be a tight squeeze at either place? I seem to recall the outside seating at the cyclops was only for four, but the bookstore doesn't have outside at all"
[seattle]|14:48 maga says, "the bookstore has outside seating but it's just little cafe tables"
[seattle]|14:49 maga says, "and it probably depends on how busy it is"
[law]|14:49 K-Y says, "well, the judge has talked about how stressful this all is"
[seattle]|14:49 maga says, "the nice thing about the Bookstore is that it has this relatively quiet nook into which you can jam six or eight people without too much trouble, if slightly rearranged, but obviously that only works if it can be commandeered"
[law]|14:50 inky says, "ha ha"
[seattle]|14:50 maga says, "I have yet to find a decent bar downtownish that qualifies as 'quiet'"
[law]|14:50 inky says, ""are you smoking crack? because marijuana would be way more relaxing""
[seattle]|14:50 Steve says, "OK, well, frankly I'm all for a local person deciding where we go.  Pub-type food, even if it's fancier, is probably the best for me, so within those boundaries I'm open"
[seattle]|14:50 vimes says, "so make sure one of your people is pretty burly and have them fling anyone in the way out of the way"
[law]|14:50 vimes says, "hee hee"
[law]|14:50 vimes says, ""here, you can share mine""
[photo]|14:50 Gunther says, "#raspberrypi http://www.petapixel.com/2012/08/16/photographer-turns-battery-grip-into-computer-gives-dslr-an-extra-brain/ "
[law]|14:51 vimes says, ""dude, have you ever looked at the law?  i mean, really *looked* at the law?""
[ads]|14:51 Ryan asks, "Wait, so they're casing themselves as the villain?"
[seattle]|14:51 maga says, "we also spend a fair amount of time at the Belltown Pub, more on the principle that it's good for boardgames than because the food is particularly good"
[ads]|14:51 Ryan says, "I assume an accident during the surgery severely injured her larynx."
[ads]|14:51 Ryan says, "casting, also"
[seattle]|14:52 maga asks, "when are you going to be around?"
[law]|14:52 vimes says, "(see, i told you poking maga repeatedly was the right solution)"
[law]|14:52 vimes says, "(ilac)"
[seattle]|14:52 vimes says, "(see, i told you poking maga repeatedly was the right solution)"
[seattle]|14:52 Steve says, "One Night Only - Sunday, August 26"
[jobs]|14:52 Dave says, "huh"
[jobs]|14:53 Dave says, "team is taking me out to Cheesecake Factory tomorrow for my last day"
[jobs]|14:53 Dave says, "not my usual send off (:"
[jobs]|14:53 inky says, "that is nice"
[jobs]|14:53 inky says, "ha ha"
[jobs]|14:53 inky asks, "you're used to hooters, you mean?"
[jobs]|14:53 Dave says, "I'm used to security guards and the walk of shame"
[seattle]|14:54 inky says, "well, if the bookstore bar has the best nook it seems like we should go there and hope to get lucky"
[seattle]|14:54 maga says, "that makes sense"
[jobs]|14:54 Dave says, "well, it's been over a year since the last time I was "let go""
[seattle]|14:55 Steve says, "OK, well I'm gonna post my general availability to this bb with what your thoughts are, so people can see it, and we can make for-real plans as we lead up to it, I guess?  Wrt to time and such, I mean"
[seattle]|14:55 maga says, "also it is the lowest-effort from Emily's, which is probably a good idea since the party is the day before"
[seattle]|14:56 Steve says, "Yeah, I don't blame them if they want to skip it"
[Camembert]|14:57 Allen | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yJZ1gId-Ak
[Camembert]|14:57 Allen says, "the national anthem of cheese"
[Camembert]|14:58 inky says, "cheese is a nation / yes it is / quit arguing / no it doesn't have any territory / unless you count the moon / ok fine it isn't really made of cheese / but like people say the internet is a nation / well fine it's metaphorical / metaphorical things can have anthems too / oops I'm out of space for real lyrics"
[Camembert]|14:59 vimes says, "yay"
[weather]|14:59 K-Y says, "man, almost pitch-black out"
[weather]|14:59 inky asks, "from a thunderstorm?"
[pronunciation]|14:59 Matthew says, "what is this i don't even"
[pronunciation]|15:00 Matthew says, "From a friend of mine who's originally from Philadelphia, describing the... unique way they speak there:"
[pronunciation]|15:00 Matthew | "Bad/mad" receive a diphthong, "cad/dad/fad/had/lad/pad/.sad" are a pure flat A.
[pronunciation]|15:00 Matthew |
[pronunciation]|15:00 Matthew | "Can" depends on meaning: a "can of soup" (or "to can tomatoes") receives a diphthong, while "I can do this" gets a pure flat A (or, in rapid speech, a schwa).
[pronunciation]|15:00 Matthew |
[pronunciation]|15:00 Matthew | I will not pretend that any of the foregoing makes sense.
[seattle]|15:01 * NewsBoy hollers, "Extra! Extra! Steve has posted message 152, about 'Steve - One Night Only - Sunday, August 26', to the bulletin board! This comment is astonishingly apropos!"
[pronunciation]|15:02 vimes says, "i am proud to be a boring midwesterner with no discernable regional accent except when people think i'm british"
[pronunciation]|15:02 vimes says, "(which is absurd if you hear me and a british person in the same room, but apparently it's pretty pronounced sometimes in other situations)"
[pronunciation]|15:04 Ryan says, "PRESS BUTTON. RECEIVE DIPHTHONG."
[weather]|15:04 K-Y says, "yeah"
[seattle]|15:05 Steve says, "Bookstore bar looks to be a 15 minute walk from my hotel, which seems good"
[seattle]|15:06 inky says, "yeah, all this stuff is about in that radius, I think"
[seattle]|15:07 Steve says, "I'm just presuming walking is the best way to get around for nearby stuff.  Otherwise I could do the bus, but I remember that being confusing"
[seattle]|15:08 Steve asks, "Don't you guys, like, pay when you get off or some weird shit like that?"
[seattle]|15:08 maga says, "it's complicated"
[seattle]|15:08 Gunther says, "no, you pay prostitutes in advance"
[seattle]|15:08 Steve says, "Yeah, that's my recollection as well"
[seattle]|15:08 maga says, "there is a zone roughly corresponding to downtown where you pay when you get off, and everywhere else you pay when you get on"
[seattle]|15:09 maga says, "basically there's a ride-free zone that only counts if both stops are in the ride-free zone, which is almost never the case"
[yay]|15:09 Gunther | Elon Musk of Tesla Motors pledges donation towards 'The Oatmeal' Tesla museum campaign
[seattle]|15:10 maga says, "and, yeah, don't bother with the bus unless walking would take at least half an hour"
[seattle]|15:10 Steve asks, "That's more for, what?  Like if you're at work and trying to get to your lunch spot faster?"
[seattle]|15:10 maga says, "that, and tourists swanning around downtown"
[yay]|15:11 Ryan says, "Yay indeed"
[seattle]|15:11 maga says, "(that's the idea, anyway; in practice I don't think many tourists figure the buses out)"
[yay]|15:13 Gunther says, "halfway there, too"
[facebook]|15:13 K-Y | It is the worst performer on both the S&P 500 and Nasdaq 100 since its listing on May 17
[facebook]|15:14 Gunther says, "upupupupupuuu"
[seattle]|15:14 maga says, "and I think there's some prospect of phasing out the free zone, in order to make it less complicated and to make life more difficult for homeless people"
[seattle]|15:15 inky says, "yeah, it's actually happening really soon"
[seattle]|15:15 inky says, "I think september, maybe"
[seattle]|15:15 vimes says, "certainly every time i've been to seattle the word was "don't use the busses, they're a pain""
[seattle]|15:15 inky says, "(part of some compromise about budget cuts for the bus)"
[facebook]|15:15 inky says, "hmm"
[seattle]|15:16 maga says (to vimes), "certain routes are okay if you know what they are in advance, and they're pretty close to your endpoint"
[facebook]|15:16 inky asks, "not everything traded on nasdaq is in the nasdaq index, right? why would you add a new stock to there?"
[seattle]|15:17 maga says, "but this is not something that can be navigated easily by someone new to the system"
[seattle]|15:17 Steve says, "I'm sure if I move there I'll try to use it as much as feasible"
[seattle]|15:17 Steve says, "But as a tourist I'm gonna skip it"
[seattle]|15:17 maga says, "it has every appearance of being designed by someone who assumed that, shit, this is Seattle, everybody has a smartphone"
[facebook]|15:18 Jota asks, "Because you believe it's more topical and representative than something that you want to get rid of?"
[seattle]|15:18 Steve says, "OTOH, I've found Chicago and SF transit to be really easy to pick up"
[seattle]|15:18 Steve says, "And NYC not so much"
[seattle]|15:18 Steve says, "I think that's all of the public systems I've tried"
[facebook]|15:18 inky says, "yeah, but it seems like you don't know if the stock is representative until you've seen it perform for a while"
[facebook]|15:19 inky says, "I mean, I guess you mean culturally representative"
[facebook]|15:19 Jota says, "I dunno what I mean. I just use words."
[facebook]|15:19 inky says, "but it seems like if a stock doubled in value every day, you wouldn't necessarily want it in the index because it's not *financially* representative of nasdaq"
[stevejobs]|15:20 Steve says, "Hey, I get window and aisle seats for all of my flights.  That's nice, at least"
[seattle]|15:20 Emily says, "when I lived in Athens (more than a decade ago now, I hear it got lots better for the Olympics) there was literally nowhere you could look up the bus schedules. There were buses, but they had no signs, publications, websites, pamphlets, or anything else to tell you where they went and when"
[stevejobs]|15:20 Steve says, "Window for Detroit to Phoenix, and aisle for everything else"
[seattle]|15:20 vimes says, "ha ha my goodness"
[lounge]|15:21 lpsmith never once has suggested that Doc is one of those charging bears that you play the violin for in cartoons?
[lounge]|15:21 lpsmith wave!
[seattle]|15:21 Steve says, "I think it's all carved on a marble column somewhere now"
[lounge]|15:21 inky says, "hey hey"
[lounge]|15:21 vimes says, "lps, the man, the myth, the loungent"
[seattle]|15:21 Emily says, "so if you wanted to take your chances, what you could do was go to the guy who ran a street corner kiosk near you (and there was always such a guy, those kiosks were everywhere) and ask him where the bus went"
[seattle]|15:21 Emily says, "but mostly I took taxis"
[lounge]|15:21 lpsmith says, "indeed, it is so, I affirm"
[lounge]|15:22 vimes says, "he is the most entering man in the lounge"
[lounge]|15:22 Tale says, "I thought he didn't play by the rules"
[seattle]|15:22 Steve asks (of Emily), "do you speak enough Greek to get by in those situations or did you have to use English?"
[lounge]|15:22 inky says, "he does in the brief intervals before tossing his badge on his boss's desk"
[seattle]|15:22 Emily says, "typically it was a muddle in which the person took pity on me and went to English"
[seattle]|15:23 Emily says, "my modern Greek was never fabulous, so any unexpected information tended to be incomprehensible"
[seattle]|15:23 maga asks (of Steve), "whence goeth the people's chariot this morrow, honest rustic?"
[seattle]|15:23 Emily says, "taxis in Athens were *also* hair-raising, but in a different way"
[seattle]|15:24 katre asks (of Emily), "(translated from the classical Greek): A syllogism! I am a person who wants to visit the Acropolis. Busses go to the Acropolis. Now, Socrates, which bus should I take?"
[seattle]|15:24 Emily says, "heehee"
[seattle]|15:24 vimes says, "ha ha ha"
[lounge]|15:25 Nitku leaves.
[seattle]|15:25 maga says, "then you end up taking the Idea of a bus, which is metaphysically superior but lacks certain advantages"
[seattle]|15:25 katre says, "heh"
[seattle]|15:26 katre says (to emily), "if you want hair-raising take a car-ride through Dhaka"
[English]|15:26 Allen | Jen Doll believes that the humblebrag's moment has passed. Introducing the underbrag in the Atlantic Wire as the brag that "doesn't care what The Man thinks", she says it's:
[seattle]|15:26 Emily says, "I am intrigued and afraid"
[seattle]|15:26 Emily asks, "what happens if you do that?"
[English]|15:26 Allen |     when you brag your own disaster or situation that one would not normally brag about. Skilled underbraggers can get away with doing so because the underbrag is not fake like the brag brag; it reveals intimate life details that are interesting and probably even embarrassing . . . . Part of the twofold power punch of the underbrag is what it demonstrates about the person who can get away with it. It is a sign of both authenticity and enthusiasm. And power. If you can underbrag and not get fired, grounded, or shamed into brag-bragging, you are a force to contend with indeed.
[seattle]|15:26 katre says, "there are two features to be careful about. 1) they drive on the left, so as an American I think I'm in the driver's seat"
[seattle]|15:27 katre says, "and 2) there are only two traffic rules. a) if nothing is in front of you, drive as fast as possible. b) if something is in front of you, honk at it, then drive as fast as possible"
[lounge]|15:27 baf guarantees FREE REPLACEMENT of any crumpled cats.
[English]|15:27 inky says, "ok, brag doesn't look like a word any more"
[seattle]|15:28 Emily says, "whee"
[seattle]|15:28 vimes says, "ha ha, that sounds like traffic rules designed by my puppy"
[seattle]|15:28 katre says, "that, plus terrible terrible congestion and the lack of anything like lanes, means you are either going faster than the car should, or not moving at all"
[seattle]|15:29 Steve says, "#belated I remember a friend of mine told me once that he knew enough German to say, roughly, "Where is the thing that I want which is the taxi cab?""
[lounge]|15:29 Psmith clambers through a window that wasn't there a moment ago, and drops lightly to the floor. The window isn't there again.
[seattle]|15:29 inky says, "ha ha"
[seattle]|15:29 vimes says, "ha ha"
[seattle]|15:30 vimes says, "it is in the place that you fear it is which is not here yet WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW"
[seattle]|15:30 vimes says, "(german always sounds like it has that bit at the end no matter what you say)"
[seattle]|15:30 vimes asks, "unless you're steve's friend in which case it sounds like it has WHERE IS THAT THING THAT YOU WANT WHICH IS YOUR GOD?"
[seattle]|15:30 maga says, "cabs in Seattle, by contrast, are fine unless it's raining"
[seattle]|15:30 inky says, "ha ha"
[seattle]|15:30 maga says, "at which point they abruptly cease to exist"
[seattle]|15:31 katre says, "lovely"
[seattle]|15:31 katre says, "Taxis in Japan are awesome"
[seattle]|15:31 katre says, "(I am still slowly realizing I am going to Japan next week)"
[seattle]|15:31 Emily says (to maga), "what's really impossible is if it snows"
[seattle]|15:31 katre says, "no matter where you start or where you're going or what time it is, you cna ask the taxi driver how much the ride will cost"
[seattle]|15:31 Emily says, "I have had cabs pussy out on coming to fetch me on really the tiniest amount of flake in the air"
[seattle]|15:32 katre says, "and when you get there, they'll be right, or within about 100 yen (about 1 USD)"
[seattle]|15:32 lpsmith says, "The taxi that took my inlaws to my house from the airport refused to take them down our long one-way street when it was snowing."
[seattle]|15:32 lpsmith says, "(fortunately a neighbor and his truck took them and their luggage the rest of the way)"
[seattle]|15:33 inky says (to katre), "wow"
[seattle]|15:34 inky says, "everyone makes a big deal about london cabbies having to memorize stuff, but that seems equally impressive"
[seattle]|15:34 inky says, "unless they are typing the destination into a device, I guess"
[seattle]|15:34 inky says, "or they aren't charging by the mile"
[seattle]|15:34 katre says, "no, just based on their experience"
[Poetry]|15:37 vimes says, "a note in the break room at work:"
[metafilter]|15:38 inky | How many houseguests can I accommodate after giving birth?
[Poetry]|15:38 vimes | Strawberries in fridge
[Poetry]|15:38 vimes | Are up for grabs
[metafilter]|15:38 inky says, "the joke potential here is extensive"
[Poetry]|15:38 vimes | They need to be eaten
[Poetry]|15:38 vimes | Before they go bad
[Poetry]|15:38 vimes | :)
[Poetry]|15:38 vimes says, "in different handwriting below that:"
[Poetry]|15:38 vimes | Burma Shave
[metafilter]|15:38 vimes says, "hee hee"
[Poetry]|15:39 Ryan says, "Eat them, then add a version of "this is just to say" below that."
[metafilter]|15:39 katre says (to inky), "as is the HSAGDHJSGD NO CARRIER"
[Poetry]|15:40 vimes says, "hee hee"
[metafilter]|15:40 inky says, "ha ha"
[Poetry]|15:40 vimes says, "i have eaten / strawberries / that were in / the fridge // and which / were probably about / to go / moldy // thank you / they were delicious / so sweet / and so cold"
[lounge]|15:41 zaphod emerges.
[news]|15:42 Allen | Police use Taser on deaf crime victim
[news]|15:43 Allen | TACOMA, Wash. --
[Jotacabana]|15:43 inky | http://www.comicsalliance.com/2012/08/16/adventure-time-7-preview/
[news]|15:43 Allen | KIRO TV's investigative unit has discovered Tacoma police used force to arrest and handcuff an innocent deaf woman after she called 911 for their help. Instead of an apology, she ended up bloody and in jail for nearly three days without an interpreter before a prosecutor declined to press charges.
[Poetry]|15:43 Ryan says, "Perfect"
[Jotacabana]|15:44 Jota asks, "Wait. This is an Adventure Time comic book written by Ryan North?"
[Jotacabana]|15:44 Jota says, "I had no idea."
[comics]|15:44 inky | http://www.blogcdn.com/www.comicsalliance.com/media/2012/08/casupermatrixbig-1345060260.jpg
[Jotacabana]|15:44 inky says, "I am not sure if every issue is"
[Jotacabana]|15:44 inky says, "maybe it is"
[metafilter]|15:44 Jota asks, "Should I even bother to mention the tarrasque?"
[NYC]|15:44 Allen | NYC Officials Shut Down Vibrator Giveaway
[lounge]|15:44 Ellison says, "hey zaphod"
[metafilter]|15:45 katre says (to jota), "the first rule of terrasque club is YOU DON'T TALK ABOUT TERRASQUE CLUB"
[news]|15:45 Jota says, "This is not the first report I've heard of someone getting beaten up and arrested by the police after calling them for help."
[news]|15:45 Jota says, "It is becoming increasingly likely that calling the police for help is not a wise thing to do."
[news]|15:46 Gunther says, "fuck tha police"
[NYC]|15:47 Allen says, "oh the ybacked off: Mayor Bloomberg has finally decided to let freedom buzz."
[lounge]|15:53 zarf walks in through the wall. Behind him, light shines briefly through, vivid gold this time of day.
[video]|15:55 Dave asks, "video capture on windows?"
[video]|15:55 Dave asks, "vlc?"
[video]|15:55 Gunther says, "fraps"
[I7]|15:56 zarf says, "every month or so I think, I should make a bbedit/textwrangler syntax-coloring module for I7"
[I7]|15:56 zarf says, "then I read the docs, and don't."
[lounge]|15:57 * Tale has disconnected.
[lounge]|15:57 * Tale has connected.
[music]|15:58 Bishop says, "Oh, man, and I thoguht _our_ arts center didn't respect the local symphony orchestra enough: < http://www.artsatl.com/2012/08/atlanta-symphony-forced-pantomime-pre-recorded-tracks-sunday%E2%80%99s-il-divo-concert/ "
[music]|15:59 Matthew says, "Dude."
[lounge]|16:00 Rob comes right on in.
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#152 [misc/places/seattle]         From: Steve         Date: 16-Aug-12 15:01
Subject: Steve - One Night Only - Sunday, August 26
I am going to be in Seattle on the 26th, arriving in the early afternoon.  We are thinking of getting together at the Bookstore Bar or somsuch, and it would be cool if folks on this channel could come by.  There aren't any more concrete plans than that, but I'll post them when there are.
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  133 Ellison      06-Aug-11 01:31 some kind of comic contest
  134 Limax        05-Sep-11 01:25 All caught up
  135 ghira        28-Dec-11 13:52 feb
  136 ghira        12-Feb-12 00:33 house/cat-sit
  137 ghira        13-Feb-12 05:15 house-sit
  138 ghira        13-Feb-12 05:15 house-sit 2
  139 ghira        13-Feb-12 05:21 sitting
  140 ghira        13-Feb-12 05:23 data point
  141 ghira        13-Feb-12 05:23 data point continued
  142 ghira        13-Feb-12 14:22 places
  143 maga         14-Feb-12 07:54 xyzzy reviewing
  144 maga         18-Mar-12 21:39 xyzzy reviews
  145 maga         19-Mar-12 08:55 xyzzy reviews
  146 maga         20-Mar-12 01:35 xyzzyreviews
  147 Johnny       16-May-12 02:27 Ker-Blam
  148 Jacqueline   07-Jul-12 21:38 Forgot! Allergic to cats?
  149 inky         07-Jul-12 22:21 ok no worries
  150 Emily        10-Jul-12 16:35 invitation
  151 Emily        18-Jul-12 19:27 hey so
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*Jacqueline   12d17  07d19  My pet karma's getting better, actually.
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[I7] vimes says, "heh, indeed"
Matthew says, "Hi Rob."
[music] Steve | Those audio tracks are loaded onto a computer wired into the sound system, and a special program plays the recorded parts in the appropriate places.
[music] Steve says, "Wait, someone is going to have to explain this 'special program' to me"
[music] Steve says, "Sounds like utter magic"
[food] Allen | Authorities found a box of ammunition and 15 Chick-fil-A sandwiches in his backpack.
[food] inky says, "oh, that remindsme"
[food] (from vimes) inky says, "bang"
[food] inky asks, "is it really pronounced "chick-fillet" and not "chick-filla"?"
Ellison says, "hey Rob"
[food] Rob says, "huh I was just going to comment on that"
[food] Rob says, "yeah it is"
[food] vimes says, "i have never heard it pronounced 'chick-fillet'"
[food] Rob says, "but for the first few years I saw its signs around I pronounced it in my head like it was a schwa A"
[food] Rob says, "'chick fill a bucket'"
[food] Gunther says, "I was thinking it was a horrible pun on "chick fil-ay""
[food] Allen says, "I've only heard chick-fillet"
[food] inky says, "I guess it is"
[food] Rob says, "I thought it was just me once I learned it was supposed to be fillet"
[food] Gunther says, "ie the correct french pronunciation"
[food] Allen says, "with the american pronunciation of "fillet""
[food] Allen says, "(not the british)"
[food] Rob says, "also I thought 'oh what a stupid name that grates upon the world'"
[food] inky says, "I haven't heard it any way, but I'd always assumed the latter and then I heard the former"
[food] Gunther says, "just pronounce it "chick bigot""
[food] vimes asks, "wait, do you mean 'chick-fil-it' versus 'chick-fil-eyyyyyy'?"
[food] Rob asks, "which one's the latter again?"
[food] Rob says, "easy there fonzie"
[food] Ellison says, "ha ha"
[food] vimes asks, "or 'chick-fil-ey' versus 'chick-fil-ahhhhh'?"
[food] inky says, "ha ha"
[gop-sux] Gunther | Mitt Romney says he's paid taxes every year, never less than 13%
[gop-sux] Gunther says, "wow, 13%!!!!! what an appropriate tax level"
[gop-sux] Rob says, "hmm"
[tangent] two-star says, "The topless drive through coffee stand in Bonney Lake, WA is called Hot-Chick-A-Latte"
[gop-sux] Gunther says, "oh wait (100-13) would be appropriate"
[religion] Rob says, "also hm"
[gop-sux] Matthew asks, "100-13?"
[gop-sux] Gunther says, "87%"
[religion] Rob says, "was ayn rand an atheist, or was it more like 'I believe in god, where god is the individual capitalist'"
[food] Steve says, "I hate every chik I see, from Chik-Fil-A to Chik-Fil-Z"
[religion] Matthew says, "She was very anti-religion, so I assumed she was an atheist."
[food] Rob says, "yay"
[food] Rob says, "except in canada and britain where that makes no rhyming sense"
[food] Gunther asks (of Rob), "eh? "see" is not pronounced "sed"?"
[food] vimes says (to rob), "he hates every chik, he said, from chik-fil-a to chik-fil-z"
[religion] Rob says, "I was just wondering because of sincerely religious guys like paul ryan taking ayn rand so much to heart and forming their philosophy on her thinking"
[religion] inky says, "yeah, for Paul Ryan in particular it's been an issue"
[religion] Matthew says, "Well, there were lots of different parts to Rand's philosophy."
[religion] Jon says, "I would have thought a god would be an unjust imposition on John Galt's personal liberty."
[religion] Gunther says, "of course Paul Ryan would worship Ayn Rand."
[religion] inky says, "I think he said he rejected Objectivism when he found out it was anti-religious"
[videogames] Allen | GaymerCon is meant to be "the first gaming and tech convention with a focus on LGBT (Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender) geek culture."
[webdevelopment] Jon | http://i.imgur.com/9XYMp.png
[religion] Steve says, "I think it's possible to pick and choose a cohesive capitalist ideology from Rand and leave out the religious and interpersonal stuff"
[religion] Rob says, "I was just reading monday's long nytimes bio of him (which was a pretty good write-up)"
[religion] Gunther asks (of Jon), "a leech?"
[religion] Gunther says (to Jon), "I mean, he *does* demand a tithe"
[religion] Rob says, "the only thing that stuck out was all the randian stuff, and his quote about how it was the best moral argument for capitalism anyone has made"
[webdevelopment] Jon says, "I like my login/register buttons, but I think I need to take them out and just have the two sign in with service you already use buttons"
[religion] Gunther says, "like, 10%, for doing NOTHING"
[religion] Rob says (to inky), "oh ah"
[religion] Jon says, "it's like danegeld; remember, god did kill almost everyone on earth that one time."
[religion] Gunther asks, "danegeld?"
[religion] Steve says, "Like, I'm sure many people who take a capitalist viewpoint through Rand also don't believe that you should force yourself on women and stuff like that, either"
[religion] Rob says, "although how do you get really into ayn rand for 20 years and not notice her anti-religiosity"
[religion] Jon says (to Gunther), "protection money"
[religion] vimes says, "once you've paid the tithe, you'll always have to pay the tithe"
[religion] Matthew says (to Rob), "I honestly don't know.  It's pretty obvious in Atlas Shrugged."
[religion] Rob says, "yeah"
[religion] Gunther says (to Rob), "if you think Atlas Shrugged is the best moral argument for capitalism, then I'm sorry, but you are a deluded moron"
[religion] Matthew says, "Less so in The Fountainhead, but it's still there."
[religion] Rob says, "anyway, just wondering"
[religion] inky says, "hmm"
[religion] Gunther says, "not you personally, of course"
[politics] Allen | starts with the fine old American slang word snollygoster 'A shrewd, unprincipled person, esp. a politician' (OED; 1895 Columbus (Ohio) Dispatch 28 Oct. 4/3 "A Georgia editor kindly explains that `a snollygoster is a fellow who wants office, regardless of party, platform or principles, and who, whenever he wins, gets there by the sheer force of monumental talknophical assumnacy'")
[religion] inky says, "I assumed "don't give stuff to the undeserving" was a pretty core objectivist tenet"
[religion] Gunther says, "because the best moral argument for capitalism is this:"
[religion] Rob says, "the second half of that quote was that 'this moral argument is now under attack'"
[religion] inky says, "and it seems like giving stuff to the undeserving is also pretty core for most religions"
[religion] Gunther says, "SWIMMING POOL OF MONEY"
[English] inky says, "ha ha ha"
[religion] Matthew says, "..."
[English] inky says, "er"
[politics] inky says, "ha ha ha"
[religion] Rob says, "which I kind of thought 'well yeah' in response to. either because it's not moral, or because there are other moral frameworks that have to coexist and keep things in alignment"
[religion] Rob says, "in society"
[religion] Matthew says, "Ayn Rand was not anti-charity."
[religion] inky asks, "oh really?"
[religion] Rob says, "undeserving? or deserving"
[religion] Gunther | My views on charity are very simple. I do not consider it a major virtue and, above all, I do not consider it a moral duty. There is nothing wrong in helping other people, if and when they are worthy of the help and you can afford to help them. I regard charity as a marginal issue. What I am fighting is the idea that charity is a moral duty and a primary virtue.
[religion] Matthew says (to inky), "She basically thought that it needed to be someone's choice."
[politics] two-star says, "When you use assumnacy, you make an ass out of um and nacy."
[religion] Matthew says, "Right."
[religion] Rob says, "like the notion of general welfare, which is a moral as well as constitutional concept, as opposed to the individual welfare of the winningest capitalist"
[religion] inky says, "that still seems pretty incompatibility with almost every religious view on charity"
[religion] Gunther says, "the rest is more batshit: http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/charity.html "
[religion] inky says, "well, I guess it depends what you mean by "undeserving" and "deserving""
[religion] Rob says, "yeah"
[religion] inky says, "er, belated to Rob"
[religion] Matthew says (to Gunther), "I fail to see how that thing you quoted is 'batshit.'"
[religion] Rob says, "I know what you meant but I thought I'd pause and clarify"
[religion] Gunther says (to Matthew), "the rest."
[religion] Allen says, "that's at http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/guano.html "
[religion] Gunther says, "however, she is inadvertently right on this:"
[religion] Gunther | If the person to be saved is a stranger, it is morally proper to save him only when the danger to one?s own life is minimal;
[religion] Rob says, "I didn't know she had a statement on bat droppings. that's a pretty comprehensive philosophy if it accounts for it"
[religion] Gunther says, "not with "morally proper" but the Red Cross 'rules' say "self-protection before help""
[webdevelopment] inky asks, "why?"
[webdevelopment] inky asks, "is this from that honey boo boo thing you posted the other day?"
[webdevelopment] inky says, "er"
[politics] inky asks, "is this from that honey boo boo thing you posted the other day?"
[webdevelopment] inky says, "truly I am ilacing all over the place"
[religion] Rob says, "hmm for the Red Cross I can see how they would have come up with that over time"
[politics] Allen says, "that quote? No, nothing at all abou tit"
[politics] Allen says, "it's something I found on a quirkly language blog"
[religion] Rob says, "since most volunteers and workers would have sort of a selfless bent to be doing that work, and would have an instinct to throw themselves into danger to save someone else, but then they might not be around when needed to help other people in a catastrophe situation"
[religion] maga says (to Rob), "that's standard search-and-rescue procedure, too"
[webdevelopment] Rob says, "sharpen up inky"
[religion] Gunther says, "goddammit, galtse is down"
[religion] maga says, "it's more based on the fact that rescuers charging into danger usually leads to you having two people to rescue"
[religion] Rob says, "yeah"
[religion] vimes says, "you need to rescue someone.  you decide to use xml.  now you need to rescue two people."
[religion] Matthew says, "Ha ha ha."
[religion] Gunther says, "ha ha but that's regex"
[religion] vimes says, "man, even perl fanatics wouldn't use a regex to rescue someone"
[religion] Gunther says (to vimes), "sure: s/drowning//, problem solved"
[politics] Rob says, "nytimes also noted that Ryan is the first Gen-Xer to run for a white house office"
[politics] Rob says, "he's my age, which is weird"
[religion] vimes says, "help, i'm !"
[religion] maga says, "worryingly large numbers of people Do Not Get this at a pretty fundamental level"
[religion] inky says, "you just have to be careful not to do s/drowning/bear/"
[religion] Gunther says, "though now you have a man screaming and flailing for no reason"
[politics] Matthew asks, "When's the Generation X cutoff again?"
[politics] Rob says, "all his high school pictures looked like my high school yearbooks pictures"
[religion] Gunther says, "wait, this totally ties back into my earlier game idea"
[religion] maga says, "there's probably some cognitive bias where taking *some* action in a bad situation is assumed to be better than taking none"
[politics] Rob says, "I forget exactly, though I know I'm squarely in there"
[religion] Gunther says, "I am hereby patenting drowning, just in case"
[politics] inky says, "ha ha"
[religion] Gunther says, "(my earlier idea being a game in which you have a vacuum cleaner which removes words from descriptions)"
[politics] Matthew | Generation X, commonly abbreviated to Gen X, is the generation born after the Western post.World War II baby boom ended. While there is no universally agreed upon time frame, commentators usually use beginning birth dates ranging from the early 1960s to the early 1980s.
[politics] Rob says, "I was also trying to remember what I was doing when I was 28, when he first won a congressional seat"
[politics] Matthew says, "If that's true, then Barack Obama and Sarah Palin both preceded Ryan, I tghink."
[politics] Matthew says, "Also, think."
[travel] Allen | Here are some stats for some of the contraband caught by TSA since January: Other strange items: bear mace, walker with mounted knife, chainsaw, grenade launcher and a chastity belt (to be clear, TSA notes the chastity belt was just detected, not confiscated, as they are not banned).
[politics] Rob says, "and basically I was hanging out on ifMUD"
[politics] inky says, "ha ha ha"
[politics] Matthew exclaims (at Rob), "If you'd hung out on dcMUD the way he did, maybe everything would be different now!!"
[politics] Rob says, "I guess so"
[travel] maga says, "aww, quaint lower-48ers thinking that bear spray is strange"
[politics] Rob says, "well I was writing and drawing a lot also but I hadn't yet started making a movie yet"
[travel] maga says, "(it is, however, pretty much the most terrible thing you can take on a plane)"
[travel] Steve says, "One thing I noticed yet again when traveling yesterday is that at no time have I ever seen the TSA's 'rules' enforced in a consistent manner.  Like, not only is every airport different, but every *trip* through every airport is different"
[travel] Matthew asks (of maga), "Wait, why?"
[travel] Rob says, "yeah"
[travel] maga says (to Matthew), "because it tends to go off, and then the entire passenger compartment is full of high-intensity pepper vapour"
[travel] Matthew says, "Gah."
[travel] Rob says, "austin's airport went through this flippy phase where sometimes they would yell at you, 'no, shoes don't go in the plastic tubs, they go directly on the conveyor belt' and 'no, put your shoes into the plastic tubs'"
[travel] maga says, "most bush pilots refuse to let you fly with the stuff unless you duct-tape it to a strut or something"
[travel] Rob says, "which had the effect of messing me up on return trips because I wasn't ever sure which way the other airports were calling this"
[travel] Gunther says (to Rob), "put one in and one outside"
[travel] Rob says, "it's actually kind of gross that you're putting your clothes and toilet articles and computer and things in the same tub that has had a million shoe-soles in it"
[travel] Rob says, "walking in and out of who knows how many restrooms and whatever kinds of sidewalks and floors"
[travel] Rob says, "but there's nothing I can do about that"
[travel] Steve says, "I always do everything exactly the same on the return trip as the trip out, and I always get called out for doing something 'wrong' in both directions"
[travel] Rob says, "exactly"
[travel] Gunther says (to Rob), "that's why I put my stuff *on top of* my shoes"
[travel] Rob says, "also I'm unfortunately getting used to the 'hands-up!' microwave nudie machine"
[travel] Gunther says, "also fly to places where they don't make you take your shoes off"
[news] Allen says, "I love small town police blotters: http://www.dailyinterlake.com/news/law_roundup/article_1b3845c8-e74c-11e1-a96b-0019bb2963f4.html "
[travel] Gunther says, "because WITIDE"
[travel] Rob says, "they have signs now saying 'if you were born before 1937 you don't have to take off your jacket or shoes'"
[travel] Steve says, "I got yelled at on the way back because I had a cloth wipe for my glasses in my shirt pocket when I stepped into the pornoscanner"
[travel] vimes says, "on my way back from seattle, i forgot to take my belt off, remove my iphone or wallet from my pocket, or take off my shoes"
[travel] Rob says, "yeah I got yelled at because I put my driver's license and my boarding pass in my shirt pocket instead of sending those through the conveyor"
[travel] vimes says, "number of those things they noticed: zero"
[travel] Rob says, "gee"
[travel] vimes says, "on my way back from las vegas, i had a penny in my sock"
[travel] vimes says, "(it was a long weekend, don't ask)"
[travel] olethros says, "ha ha"
[videogames] Gunther says, "ahahaha"
[videogames] Gunther | Get $1 PC games from Ubisoft's new Uplay client
[news] Allen | An employee at a business on Hungry Horse Boulevard in Hungry Horse reported a group of four teenage boys kept coming in, being obnoxious and inappropriate, spitting everywhere and making obscene gestures.
[travel] Steve says, "Yup, I get that too, where I overlook something that should be blatantly obvious and it just goes unnoticed"
[travel] maga says, "wild times indeed"
[travel] vimes says, "i got supersearched and delayed for an hour"
[videogames] Gunther says, "cognitive dissonance between 'being "frugal"' and 'hate ubisoft' is about to make people explode"
[travel] Rob says, "The Hangover Part 3: Vimesical the Musical"
[travel] olethros says, "shoes? shoes are only removed if they can set off the metal detector I thought"
[travel] olethros says, "and as far as the pornoscan is concerned, I ask for a pat-down because it's quicker"
[travel] Allen says, "after the shoe-bomber, every hsow comes off"
[travel] Rob says (to olethros), "wow what pre-9/11 world do you live in"
[movie] Matthew says, "Someone on Twitter is telling me that Clue having three separate endings was a bad idea.  I don't know to respond to this madman."
[travel] Allen says, "er, shoe"
[travel] Steve says, "Shoes could contain explosive materials or hidden weapons so now they have to go through the xray"
[movie] vimes says, "man, that's the best part of Clue"
[travel] olethros asks, "even flip-flops?"
[travel] Steve says, "Yeah"
[movie] Gunther says (to Matthew), "obviously you need to respond three times: once affirmative, once neutral, and once shocked"
[travel] olethros says, "ha ha ha"
[movie] Rob says, "it was kind of the only reason to make that movie"
[travel] Allen says, "flip flops are most dangerous of all"
[movie] Matthew says (to Rob), "Bingo."
[travel] Bishop asks, "#belated Who really wants bears in aerosol form, anyways?"
[movie] Rob says, "they should be glad they get to see all three. I saw it in the theater and you got a random one"
[travel] olethros says, "I flew to canada recently, and never had to take my shoes off I think"
[movie] Matthew says, "He says he thinks the SPOILERS!!!!! Scarlet and Peacock endings are unsatisfying, when I actually like them better than the 'big' one."
[travel] Rob says, "honeybees"
[movie] Steve says, "Wait, i thought Colleen Camp in a maid outfit was the only reason to make that movie"
[movie] Matthew says (to Rob), "I saw the catch-all ending in the theater."
[movie] Gunther asks, "oh boy have they done 3 different DVD releases and you need to buy all 3?"
[movie] Rob says, "wow colleen camp"
[travel] olethros says, "BEES"
[movie] Rob says, "nah"
[movie] Matthew says, "I would have preferred the Scarlet ending--I think that's my favorite."
[movie] Gunther asks, "if not why am I not already hired as their President of Monetization?"
[movie] Rob says, "I have no memory of what any of the endings were, it's amazing to see that other people do"
[apropos-of-nothing] Gunther says, "whoa, I thought we had a #bttf"
[apropos-of-nothing] Rob says, "no"
[movie] baf says, "The best argument I've heard against the multiple endings is that it prevents it from being an effective mystery. When you get the ending of a mystery, it's supposed to suddenly be obvious that the solution is the only possible way it could have happened."
[movie] Jota says, "Clue having three separate endings where they only showed one at a time in a given theatre was probably a bad idea. Having three endings and showing them consecutively on home video was a great idea."
[apropos-of-nothing] Rob says, "#movie, #telltale"
[movie] Rob says (to Jota), "yeah."
[apropos-of-nothing] Gunther says, "but anyway, I'm reading Ryan North's novelization of the novelization"
[movie] Matthew says (to Jota), "That's not my memory, though."
[apropos-of-nothing] Gunther says, "I recommend it to everyone"
[movie] Rob says, "well, at least some studio tried an experiment."
[movie] Jota says, "I would have felt ripped off if I'd seen it in the theatres."
[apropos-of-nothing] Gunther says, "also the original author died of bees."
[movie] Matthew asks, "Weren't all the theaters supplied with all three, and they ran them on different days?"
[movie] Rob says, "yeah, or something"
[movie] Matthew says, "See, I think that's a great idea."
[movie] Rob says, "but if you only went once you only saw one. if you went more than once you might still see the same one"
[movie] Steve says, "I remember it being on three screens near me"
[movie] Jota says (to Matthew), "Well, whatever, each patron didn't get to see the full movie without buying three tickets."
[movie] Steve says, "They were listed as like Clue A, Clue B, and Clue C"
[movie] two-star says, "I remember that I saw ending "C"."
[movie] Matthew says, "I mean, I like having all three on home video, but I don't see the problem with having separate, standalone endings."
[movie] Rob says, "hm I vaguely am pretend-remembering a multiplex advertising 'Clue - Ending C'   'Clue - ending A' on the marquees"
[movie] Matthew asks (of two-star), "C was the one where they all did it, right?"
[movie] Rob says, "SPOILERS"
[movie] Steve says (to Rob), "Yeah, ours had that"
[movie] maga says, "I know Jacq went to see it several times, and didn't manage to find all the endings"
[movie] Matthew says, "Huh, okay."
[movie] Gunther says (to Matthew), "no, that's Mur*SPOILERS*ess"
[movie] two-star exclaims (at Matthew), "I don't remember!"
[movie] Rob says, "to me it wasn't funny enough to see that many times"
[movie] Matthew says, "I guess I'm misremembering how it worked.  I really thought they just kept switching them out, but maybe not."
[movie] Matthew says (to Rob), "Well, I really like Clue, but I basically agree."
[movie] Rob says, "one of those movies with a big ensemble of talented funny people but somehow the exercise comes off feeling stiff the whole time"
[movie] Steve says, "We didn't see it on the theater, just on cable where you get to see all three"
[movie] Matthew says, "Well, I SORT OF really like Clue because... what Rob said."
[movie] Rob says, "it's a hard thing to get to work, so sometimes it exceptionally does, and often it somehow doesn't"
[movie] Matthew says (to Rob), "I think it's also terribly edited in a lot of ways."
[movie] Matthew says, "But the cast is amazing."
[movie] Jota says (to Matthew), "Gurl nyy qvq vg, ohg vs lbh jnag gb xabj jub xvyyrq Ze. Obqql, V qvq. Va gur unyy jvgu gur eribyire. Naq abj V'z tbvat ubzr gb fyrrc jvgu zl jvsr."
[movie] Rob says, "yeah."
[Crafters] Bishop exclaims, "Awesome. There _is_ a crochet pattern for a piranha plant. Silly toilet-roll cozies, here I come!"
[movie] Rob says, "gurl"
they
[movie] Steve says, "You'll be a wuman soon"
They all did it, but if you want to know who killed Mr. Boddy, I did. In the hall with the revolver. And now I'm going home to sleep with my wife."
[movie] Matthew laughs.
un un
[movie] Rob says, "un un"
[movie] Jota says, "I thought it was a great movie, but I wouldn't to watch it three times in a row, but I'd feel ripped off if that was the only way to see all the endigns."
[movie] Ellison says, "#belated I remember that around here, in the paper, each showing had A, B, or C ending listed for it"
[movie] Allen says, "ha ha, guerilla art in NYC: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jillyballistic/7650890526/in/photostream "
[movie] Matthew says, "I think Clue is entertaining and I think the cast is fantastic, but I don't think it's a great movie.  I never get tired of watching it, though."
[movie] Ellison says, "oh, Rob says the same thing"
[movie] Matthew says, "I remember the A-B-C thing, I think I just thought all the theaters got them all, not that it was one ending per theater."
[movie] Bishop says, "I haven't seen Clue in, like, a decade. I should watch it again."
[movie] Matthew asks (of Bishop), "So you haven't watched it in more 1+2+2+1 years?"
[movie] Matthew says, "</stretch>"
[movie] Jota asks (of Matthew), "So I think it's great, but would tire of watching it, but you don't think it's great, but wouldn't tire of watching it?"
[movie] inky says (to Allen), "tee hee"
[movie] Ellison says, "I thought the different endings was kind of a dumb thing as a promotional theater-viewing thing, but it is fun in the home video format where they show them all"
[movie] Steve says, "There weren't quite as many multiplexes back then, so I'm sure there were many ways to show the movie"
[movie] Matthew asks (of Jota), "Basically, yeah.  A good thing this isn't confusing, huh?"
[movie] Steve says, "The whole thing sounds like a money-losing idea, though"
[movie] Rob says, "yeah"
[movie] Matthew says, "I don't think it was a successful movie money-wise..."
[ebooks] olethros says, "hm I guess I need to have a proper unicode font for this reader"
[movie] Rob says, "maybe they were hoping people would actually shell out to see it 3 times"
[movie] Steve says, "Big cast, licensed property, three prints of your film all out there, some at the same theater"
[ebooks] olethros says, "I can't really read greek"
[ebooks] Rob asks, "you can't?"
[ebooks] inky says, "it is all greek to him"
[ebooks] Rob says, "he's greek to me"
[movie] Steve says, "Expecting some theaters to show it on three screens, when today only really huge movies get that treatment"
[movie] Rob says, "yeah"
[movie] Rob says, "and then each screen doesn't exactly sell out"
[movie] Steve says, "It just seems ill-conceived"
[movie] Rob says, "probably the trade journals and conferences of movie distributors and exhibitors had a different take on the Clue experience"
[movie] Ellison says, "plus, good luck bringing in that lead pipe in this day and age, diehard fans"
[movie] Steve says, "I guess there were several high-concept movie experiemnts in the 80s"
[movie] Rob says, "they tried 3D back then too of course"
[movie] Matthew asks (of Steve), "What were the others?"
[movie] Steve asks, "Like, remember the contest tie-in with Million Dollar Mystery?"
[movie] Rob says, "in the 90s they tried to do multiple branching movies with audience choosing path gizmo buttons"
[movie] two-star says, "Hmm. I more got the feeling at the time that they were trying to distribute the endings within an area, but not necessarily within a particular multiplex."
[movie] Rob says, "oh man the million dollar mystery"
[movie] Matthew says, "I don't remember that at all."
[movie] Steve says, "I remember Tom Bosley and a Glad Bags tie-in"
[movie] Matthew reads Wikipedia.
[movie] Steve says, "Like, Glad ran the contest, I think"
[workplace] Allen says, "we won a major new client"
[workplace] Allen says, "Samsung"
[movie] Matthew says, "Man, what."
[workplace] Jota asks, "Is this going to mean losing your current televisions that your videogames are hooked up to?"
[movie] baf says, "I remember seeing Mr. Payback in the theatres."
[workplace] inky says, "ha ha"
[workplace] inky says, "that would be pretty funny if every new client at Allen's workspace was met with groans as it chopped away more choices for them in different areas"
[movie] baf says, "The branching meant it was very short, but they let you sit through as many iterations as you could stand."
[workplace] Allen says, "it's strange now that two of our big clients are samsung and t-mobile, whereas 90% of the people here have iphones with AT&T service"
[books] inky | Well, yes, in mystery fiction Agatha Christie and Arthur Conan Doyle are pretty much the Doc Smith and Jules Verne/H.G. Wells equivalent. Anything they COULD have done, they did, the only things they failed to do would have required them to be able to view the future.
[workplace] Rob says, "hm, samsung is a pretty big client"
[workplace] Rob says, "they've got a big presence in north austin these days"
[workplace] Rob says, "also they advertise like hell"
[movie] Steve says, "I think the 80s was a big time for complicated contests"
[workplace] Rob says, "on television"
[movie] Steve says, "Like, I remember several breakfast cereal-related ones"
[movie] Steve says, "Like a huge one where Cap'n Crunch was missing or somesuch"
[movie] Rob says, "heh I remember that"
[movie] Rob says, "I wonder where they found him"
[movie] Steve says, "And it was tied in with game pieces and phone numbers to call to get clues, and weird stuff"
[quotebooks] Ellison says, "ha ha Rob quote"
[software] olethros says, "wordperfect still exists eh"
[movie] Steve says, "Under a bus in Dayton"
[movie] Rob says, "that was around the time someone pointed out that cap'n crunch's eyeball ovals go over the top of his hat brim"
[movie] Rob says, "which is really freaky"
Quotations:
inky (quoted by vimes, 16-Aug-12):
  [Camembert] Allen says, "the national anthem of cheese"
  [Camembert] inky says, "cheese is a nation / yes it is / quit arguing / no it doesn't have any territory / unless you count the moon / ok fine it isn't really made of cheese / but like people say the internet is a nation / well fine it's metaphorical / metaphorical things can have anthems too / oops I'm out of space for real lyrics"
Rob (quoted by inky, 16-Aug-12):
  [politics] Rob says, "I was also trying to remember what I was doing when I was 28, when he first won a congressional seat"
  [politics] Rob says, "and basically I was hanging out on ifMUD"
[movie] Steve says, "(that was where they found the parody contest subject when they made fun of it on Family ties)"
[movie] inky says, "this reminds me that I saw mcdonalds was doing a promotion around different olympic athletes where I think the prize you get depends on how they do"
<Tigrita> Tigrita has connected to ifMUD.
[quotebooks] vimes says, "ha ha ha"
[movie] Matthew says (to Steve), "That was on Family Ties."
[software] Allen asks, "does it?"
[movie] inky says, "which seems a little tricky because the amount they'd have to pay out would vary depending on the performance"
[software] Allen says, "the lawsuit against microsoft finally ended"
[software] olethros says, "yup. Costs $250"
[movie] inky says, "whereas for most of their contests it doesn't"
[software] Allen says, "the one over allegations that Windows 95 destroyed word perfect"
[movie] Rob says, "yeah. actually I was pretty sour about those ads in particular from the way they tried to humorously pitch it"
[movie] Rob says, "where random slobs were basically talking down to these star athletes, giving them instructions on how to do their sport and their training, like they knew better"
[software] olethros asks, "oh, what happened?"
[movie] lpsmith says (to inky), "Insurance (really)"
[movie] Rob says, "such that the random slob would win more prizes"
[dosbox] * Gunther has joined the channel.
[software] olethros says, "oh thrown out"
[software] Allen says, "the company suing finally gave up"
[movie] Rob says, "it kind of offended me on all the athlete's behalf"
Tigrita flies into the Lounge in her brand new space-car, which she then folds up into a brief case.
[software] Allen says, "and dropped it"
vimes says, "welcome back to another episode of holy crap has it been eight hours already where the heck does the time go!"
[movie] inky says, "oh yeah, that was weird"
[software] Allen says, "oh, I remember looking at the word perfect wikipedia page"
[emulation] Gunther says, "man, dosbox's let me down"
[software] Allen says, "I remember this illustration: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WordPerfectX3.png "
[emulation] Gunther says, "can't install Frameworks 2"
[movie] inky says, "one of those commercials where it makes the viewer-analogue look like a jerk"
Tigrita asks (of vimes), "were you on the whole time I was gone?"
[movie] inky says (to lpsmith), "hmm, I guess that makes sense"
Tigrita looks at Jota.
vimes says, "sure, most of us were"
[movie] Rob says, "I was reading the final olympics wrap-up and two separate essays mentioned that all the cash registers in the village said 'We are proud to only accept Visa.'"
[emulation] Gunther says, "er, Framework"
Bishop says, "Some of us never log off."
Tigrita says, "man"
[movie] Rob says, "so anyone with any other means of payment was told to fuck off"
[movie] inky says, "next question: would being the person at the insurance company who decides how much to charge in premiums be a fun job or a stressful job"
[movie] Rob says, "one of the reviewers unpacked the contempt hidden behind the chilly smile of this 'we're proud' message"
baf says, "I'm generally always logged on from work, although I'm not necessarily paying attention at any given moment."
[software] olethros says, "ecco groklaw http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2012081300021131 "
[movie] Gunther says, "that's like "proud to be white""
[stevejobs] Steve says, "Man, I'm not sure if I'm grateful that this place bothered to write me about my resume to say they weren't going to interview me, or annoyed that they did it six weeks later"
Bishop says, "In fairness, most of those also don't sit in front of the computer during the entire time they're on."
[emulation] vimes says, "poo"
Bishop lights out for the west.
[movie] Rob says, "I can't think of a non-stressful insurance job"
Bishop arrives from the west with fresh air in his lungs and a stone in his shoe.
Bishop says, "Oops."
[emulation] Gunther says, "it says the hard drive isn't compatible"
Bishop says, "This is what I get for being too Linux-accustomed."
[emulation] vimes says, "huh"
[movie] inky says, "that "we're proud to only accept visa" thing reminds me of this thing in the break room at work"
[movie] Rob says, "I've been noticing lately how 1) there are a lot of insurance company tv ads, almost more than pharmaceuticals, and 2) they are all going for a light slapstick comedy humor friendly tee hee vibe"
[movie] inky says, "which is like a vending machine, but there is a fridge unit and then separately a payment unit, and you're supposed to take things out of the fridge and scan them at the payment unit and pay"
[movie] Rob says, "state farm, geico, farmers, allstate, on and on, all doing this comedy shtick to make you like them a lot"
Tigrita says, "I don't know how I'll survive once I get a job and don't have summer vacation"
[movie] Rob says, "wait what if you just take it and leave"
[movie] inky says, "and there is a sign above the payment unit saying "YOU ARE BEING MONITORED FOR YOUR PROTECTION" or somesuch"
[movie] Rob says, "oh ew"
[movie] inky says, "and video camera"
[movie] Rob says, "I have a habit now of glancing at ceilings and seeing how many of those smoky glass domes hiding security cameras are there"
[movie] Rob says, "staring at them all the time has probably got me on someone's list"
[movie] inky says, "and ok, in like a bar or something I can kind of see the user benefit for being monitored to keep the fisticuffs from breaking out"
[movie] inky says, "but I don't know what the purported user benefit is here, unless, like, the vending machine might suddenly leap out at you"
[movie] Matthew says (to inky), "Well, YooHoo inspires fierce rivalry."
[movie] inky says, "hee hee"
[movie] Rob says, "in case someone mugs you while you're getting a soda"
[movie] inky says, "another tragic skittle scuffle"
[movie] Rob says, "fred down in marketing was seen hiding a ski mask in his cubicle drawer"
[band-name] inky says, "Skiffle Skuffle"
[band-name] inky says, "(probably already exists)"
[band-name] Rob says, "that'd be great for 1958"
[band-name] Rob says, "and britain"
[band-name] vimes says, "Truffle Shuffle Skittle Skuffle"
[band-name] inky says, "ha ha"
[band-name] Rob says, "that's a good start to a nonsense rhyme"
[movie] olethros says (to inky), "(belatedly) calculating risk is mostly a lot of boring work"
[band-name] Matthew exclaims, "Quick, get nm in here!!"
[band-name] Rob says, "truffle shuffle skittle skuffle, doop doopy doo, buffle baffle duffel daffle, I love you"
[movie] olethros says, "in some sense it is challenging because you have to try and make sense of the data"
[movie] olethros says, "a friend of mine worked in this area for a year, but he quit because he was working more than 12 hours a day"
[movie] Steve says, "#much-belated Some online searching turns up that the real Cap'n Crunch was eventually found in the Milky Way"
[movie] Rob says, "ha ha"
[movie] Rob says, "you know that actually is distantly familiar now that you report this"
[movie] Rob says, "I think I was just curious enough to occasionally glance at the cereal isle to find out when that was still going on"
[movie] Rob says, "also I ate cap'n crunch for an unseemly number of post-college years as a snack"
[movie] Steve says, "My guess was that he was shipwrecked on a cereal isle"
[movie] Rob says, "having discovered that eating it first thing in the morning gives you a sugar coma that's the opposite of making you alert and functional"
Tigrita takes the elevator up the magic bird perch.
[greece] olethros says, "eek forced begging in greece"
[band-name] inky says, "ha ha"
[movie] Matthew says, "Yeah, but Cap'n Crunch is darn tasty stuff."
Rob says, "thunder-thunder-thundercats! hoooo"
[movie] Ellison says, "ha ha Milky Way joke"
[movie] Rob says, "it has that distinct flavor"
Tigrita likes "entering the lounge" as much as the next girl, but this isn't really the time.
[greece] olethros says, "a gang lured bulgarians over the border and forced them to beg, and kept them imprisoned in a dingy flat"
[movie] Matthew says (to Rob), "And texture."
[movie] Rob says, "yeah. you can cut the roof of your mouth to pieces if you aren't careful"
[movie] Matthew says, "I remember really liking the peanut butter version, too."
[movie] Rob says, "I stayed away from that"
[movie] Rob says, "but ate more than my fair share of crunchberries"
Ellison asks (of Tigrita), "so, any interest in writing your own IF or are you just enjoying taking it all in right now?"
[movie] Matthew says, "I liked crunchberries, too."
vimes says, "i strongly recommend writing your own so you can appreciate other people's better"
Tigrita says (to Ellison), "Yeah, I want to write my own stuff eventually but I'm still in the process of figuring out Inform"
vimes asks, "inform 7, i presume you mean?"
Tigrita says, "Yeah"
olethros says, "sweet sleep, I presume"
olethros has ordered three mega-generators to be installed in his boathouse.
</olethros> Turns out you can polish a turd.
</inky> I haven't been licking anything out of the ordinary.
<inky> WARNING: The ones you're missing are stupid words.
[movie] inky asks, "are crunchberries like kix?"
[movie] Steve says, "No"
Ellison says (to Tigrita), "good luck with that"
[movie] Rob says, "a bit yeah"
[movie] Steve asks, "Whaa?"
[movie] Rob says, "corn based sugar glued globules"
[movie] Rob says, "but more like trix"
[movie] Rob says, "and smaller and denser I think"
[movie] vimes says, "sugar-coated styrofoam"
[movie] Steve says, "They're 'fruit'-flavored and several times the size of Kix"
Tigrita exclaims (at ellison), "Thanks!"
[movie] Rob says, "oh I'm inverting the proportions"
[movie] Matthew says (to Rob), "Right.  Crunchier than Trix."
[movie] Rob says, "or am I? fight"
[movie] Matthew says, "Except I think crunchberries were bigger than... right."
[movie] Steve says, "Kix are the same size as Trix"
[movie] Rob says, "then in the early 21st century, the first of the cereal wars began"
Tigrita says, "I love how it says that you can exclaim things at people."
[movie] Rob says, "I assume kix and trix are cousins"
[movie] Steve says, "Kix are bland and trix are flavorful"
[movie] Matthew says (to Rob), "And a new generation of cereal killers was created."
[movie] Rob asks, "and kix came first?"
[movie] Rob says, "yar har"
Tigrita goes southwest to play with buoys. Ahoy!
[movie] baf says, "Crunchberries are to kix as cake is to bread."
maga asks, "did we ever do a Tom Swifty April Fool's?"
[movie] Rob says, "trix is one of those cereals I liked when there were 3 colors/flavors but couldn't stand when they added more every year"
DavidW goes home.
DavidW has disconnected.
[movie] Rob says, "the amount of food coloring I was required to ingest was so potent I could taste it as a bad flavor"
[movie] Matthew says, "Yeah, I think cereals started getting too complicated."
[movie] Matthew says, "Lucky Charms had the same problem."
[movie] Rob says, "the same thing happened with fruity pebbles"
Ellison says, "later"
Ellison goes back to Squeamhurst..
Ellison has disconnected.
[movie] Rob says, "yeah, lucky charms too"
[movie] Steve says, "I remember getting Trix a fair amount and then eating them color-by-color"
[movie] Rob says, "I drew the line at blue diamonds"
[movie] Steve says, "Well, all of the Lucky Charms tasted the same, at least"
[movie] Matthew says (to Rob), "I thought the purple horseshoes were fine, but beyond that..."
[movie] Rob says, "purple horseshoes and rainbows? fuck off"
[movie] vimes says, "that's why i just eat sugar cubes for my breakfast cereal"
[movie] Matthew says, "Wait a minute, now, at least horseshoes are actual symbols of luck.  Rainbows, not so much."
inky says (to maga), "hmmmm"
[movie] Rob says, "if it's good enough for a racehorse"
maga says, "(I suppose it would be super-annoying having names come at the end of sentences, but super-annoying is the name of the game)"
inky asks, "how would that work?"
[movie] Rob says, "rainbows as we know are a symbol that God won't ever flood the earth again"
[movie] Steve says, "I guess pretty much any cereal I would eat in different stages if there were different bits"
[movie] Rob says, "yeah I liked to get into a system"
[movie] Rob says, "I used to eat Dole fruit cocktail in a certain order"
[movie] Rob says, "leaving the cherries for last"
(From vimes) "with some difficulty," vimes said phalygnicnonically.
maga says, "well, I assume you wouldn't attempt actual Tom Swifties, just remove names from the front of speech and put "exploded inky" afterwards"
[movie] Steve says, "So, like, I would eat all of the yellow capn crunch bits and then all the crunchberries at the end"
[movie] Rob says, "me too"
inky says, "yeah, ok"
[movie] Matthew says, "Huh, I didn't do that."
vimes says, "i hope they would all literally be "exploded inky""
[movie] Matthew says, "I just sort of shoveled it all in."
[movie] Steve says, "Fruity Pebbles were too small to do this effectively, so they were about the only one that got the shovel treatment"
Rob says, "[person's say quote], [username] said [random-list-of-adverbs]."
[movie] Rob says, "yeah again"
[movie] Steve says, "I would typically save whichever I liked best for last"
[movie] Rob says, "yup"
[movie] Rob says, "I'm not sure what it is we have in common but I guess we do"
Tigrita enters the lounge, not knowing why, but programmed to purchase... STAR FRONTIERS
[movie] Steve says, "My brother, on the other hand, would eat just the marshmallows from Lucky Charms, and then pour the cereal bit back into the box"
Tigrita goes home.
</Tigrita> Tigrita has disconnected from ifMUD.
You paged Steve: hey, I'm actually going to be in seattle on that sunday. look forward to seeing you
[movie] Rob says, "oh that kind of guy"
[movie] Rob says, "huh I just realized I have no distinct memories of what my brother ate for breakfast"
Steve pages: Yeah, inky said you'd be at his house
[movie] Rob says, "it must have overlapped what I ate for a while but I can't recall when he split off or what he ate instead"
You paged Steve: cool
Steve pages: Seeing people there is literally the only thing I have to look forward to that I will enjoy about this trip
You paged Steve: it's been a while and a half too long
Rob says, "well! this has been a fun and wide ranging classic ifMUD session of talking about everything from ayn rand to lucky charms"
Rob says, "but it's time to go"
inky says, "goodbye Rob!"
Rob says, "bye ! !  o"
Rob heads right on out.
</Rob> Find release from your cares. have a good time.
Seeya later.