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ifMUD
An interactive real time social network chat bulletin board
quotebook url database with a parrot bot
Copyright 1997-2007 by Loungent Technologies, a wholly owned subsidiary of
rec.[arts|games].int-fiction; All rights reserved.
Release 4 / Serial number 990908 / perlMUD v2.1z
    "The characters were mostly of the cardboard cutout variety.
    I wanted to punch everyone except the one Scottish guy."
         --Jearl
  NOTE: Whenever a fix or enhancement is in place, it will be announced
  on the channel '#mud-updates'.
  OTHER NOTE: There is a mailing list where people can say things like
  "hey, the mud's down, what's up with that?" In fact, since this is
  the only thing the list is used for, you should join it if you are
  interested in this subject. To join, go to
    http://groups.google.com/group/ifmud/
  or talk to Steve.
Robinson Manor
A gracious, welcoming, airy space. Music drifts in from unseen speakers. A picture window on the southern wall provides a pleasant source of light and a sense of openness.
You can see: teleporter, a picture window, comfy sofa, Jeopardy podium, buzzer1, buzzer2, buzzer3, Jota greets Rob, fake_Robb_Sherwin
Visible Exits: west, east
<Rob> When he said that, it gave me the ending of my book.
No new channels have been created since your last check.
Adventurer's Lounge
Candles on the wood-panelled walls create a comfortably dark atmosphere. Hand-drawn maps are taped to nearly every surface -- the walls, the ceiling, the trophy case in the corner. Seating is plentiful. A small storage closet is to the north.
You can see: new laundry list, Birthday Calendar, magic laundry list, banner reading "Happy birthday vaporware!", Even Newer World Map, charset sampler, Automeeter, TheMasterTheorem player names, time zones, MUD Client Wish List, battle.net battletags, madlibs, Anything Finder, Sarcasm Detector, Gene Ray
Players: Alex, markm, Touchy, small, Ryan, GDorn, Bishop, Allen, ctmiller, baf, Jon, DorianX, Matthew, genericgeekgirl, Otis, Jearl, vimes, Psmith, lpsmith, zaphod, McMartin, Dave, marc, annabianca, boucher, Lionheart, Marktwo, Whizzard, Grocible, Hjalfi, Marvin, Fang, Iain, Jizaboz, Steve, Gunther, zarf, inky, ghira
Visible Exits: north, west, southwest, southeast, up, east
Rob comes right on in.
Recapping 289 of 2863 lines from recent channels:
[programming]/10:16 vimes says, "ha ha"
[stevejobs]|10:18 Matthew says (to Steve), "Woo, congratulations."
[programming]|10:21 Allen says, "why can't he learn to accept functions as they are, instead of expecting the worst from every one of them? That actually sounds more paranoid, more discriminatory, than merely pessimistic"
[stevejobs]|10:25 Steve says, "I have a ball in the air from a guy in Portland, OR, but after talking about the position and what crappy benefits I would have during the contract phase, I am thinking of telling him to forget it"
[stevejobs]|10:26 Steve says, "Still waiting for some more local companies I applied to, to see if they contact me.  There's sometimes a strangely long delay in this sort of thing"
[stevejobs]|10:26 Steve says, "Like, I was sure this place in Chicago had already decided not to call"
[news]|10:29 Allen | Wade Michael Page, was a frustrated neo-Nazi who had been the leader of a racist white-power band.
[programming]|10:30 Hjalfi says, "It's not that Bluetooth is intrinsically bad in of itself. It's just that every implementation ever sucks goat."
[lounge]|10:38 Dave says, "morning"
[books]|10:38 Gunther | Harvest of Time, my Dr Who novel, is done and dusted barring edits.
[books]|10:38 Gunther says, "yessssssssssssssssss"
[books]|10:39 Gunther says, "bad news: not out until '13"
[stevejobs]|10:39 Dave says, "I've heard United is a good place to work"
[books]|10:39 Hjalfi asks, "Who?"
[books]|10:40 Gunther says, "Alastair Reynolds"
[books]|10:40 Hjalfi blinks.
[books]|10:40 Gunther says, "yes, this should be something."
[books]|10:41 Hjalfi says, "That's weird. For a moment there I thought you said that Alastair Reynolds was writing a Doctor Who tie-in novel."
[stevejobs]|10:41 Steve says, "Working in the Sears Tower would be crazy"
[books]|10:41 Hjalfi says, "But such a thing obviously cannot happen in any sane universe."
[books]|10:41 Gunther says, "and yet it has"
[books]|10:41 Psmith says, "the conclusion about the sanity of the universe follows."
[books]|10:41 Hjalfi exclaims, "Why, the next thing you'll tell me is that Steven Brust would write a... a... oh, I dunno, Firefly fanfic or something!"
[books]|10:42 Gunther says, "I dunno who Steven Brust is, but that would demonstrate a severe lack of judgment on his part."
[books]|10:42 Psmith asks, "huh. You've not read the Dragaera books?"
[books]|10:42 Hjalfi says, "I'd think they'd be right up your street."
[books]|10:42 Gunther asks, "oh, is Brust the guy who doesn't know what tenses are?"
[firearms]|10:43 Allen | N. Korea enacts gun-control law
[firearms]|10:43 Gunther says, "literally one gun"
[books]|10:44 Psmith says, "maybe? I'm not sure what you're referring to."
[health]|10:44 Fang says, "painful mouth ulcer"
[health]|10:44 Fang asks, "is there anything that can help, or is this just a waiting game?"
[books]|10:44 Gunther says, "there's one author I tried to read who switches between present and past tenses like every 3 sentences"
[health]|10:44 Gunther says, "there's spray-on disinfectant/numbification stuff"
[health]|10:45 Gunther says, "the stuff that actually works is, however, not OTC, at least here"
[books]|10:45 Psmith says, "that doesn't sound like Brust. (He's done one where alternating chapters are now-story and flashback, but I can't remember what tenses he used for it.)"
[books]|10:45 Hjalfi says, "Brust does go in for literary tricks, and there is one novel which is told in three layers of nested flashbacks, but he doesn't do that."
[books]|10:46 Gunther says, "anyway, never read, won't read any new unfinished series"
[books]|10:47 Allen says, "Brusts' books aren't really a series"
[books]|10:48 Allen says, "they're connected books, but each is self-contained"
[books]|10:48 Hjalfi says, "They skip around in time all over the place."
[jobs]|10:48 Matthew says, "Okay, 'test' 'answers' submitted for that job."
[books]|10:48 Psmith says (to Allen), "hmm, there's a lot of foreshadowing and stuff, and it's clearly all Leading Up To Something."
[books]|10:49 Hjalfi asks, "How many books has he got left, considering there will be 17+1 of them?"
[books]|10:49 Allen says, "mmm"
[books]|10:49 Gunther says (to Hjalfi), "13 out, 19 total"
[health]|10:49 Fang says, "I'll pretend I didn't read that and hope for the placebo effect, then"
[books]|10:49 Gunther says, "is on a defibrillator, thus fully counting on him dying before finishing"
[books]|10:49 Hjalfi asks, "*Nine*teen?"
[health]|10:50 Gunther says, "oh, the nonOTC stuff works, just not nearly as well"
[health]|10:50 Gunther says, "YMMV"
[books]|10:50 Gunther says, "18+1, not 17+1"
[books]|10:50 Gunther says, "so 6 left"
[books]|10:51 Hjalfi says, "Hm. One book for each of the seventeen houses plus _Taltos_. So there's one extra..."
[books]|10:51 Gunther says, "yup"
[tangent]|10:51 Fang asks, "has defibrillators ever *failed* in fiction, to revive the patient?"
[books]|10:51 Psmith says, "maybe we get a falling Phoenix to go with the rising Phoenix."
[tangent]|10:51 Gunther says, "yes"
[books]|10:51 Hjalfi says, "Maybe Vlad breaks the Cycle."
[tangent]|10:51 Fang asks, "when?"
[books]|10:52 Gunther says, "it's all on the wikipedia page"
[tangent]|10:52 Gunther says, "when it's plot convenient for the person to die."
[tangent]|10:52 Allen says, "they've certainly failed in movies and on tv"
[books]|10:53 Gunther | one named for each of the Great Houses, one named for Vlad himself, and a final novel which Brust has said will be titled The Final Contract
[Olympics]|10:53 Allen | U.S. Athlete Expelled From Olympics For Positive Cannabis Test
[books]|10:54 Hjalfi says, "The only thing I can possibly say to that is DUN-DUN-DUUUUN."
[Olympics]|10:55 Allen | American judo fighter Nick Delpopolo was expelled from the Olympics on Monday for doping.
[Olympics]|10:55 Allen says, "I don't think marijuana is what most people consider athletic doping..."
[lounge]|10:57 Gunther, Geoffrey, and Shamino all represented various aspects of Garriott: his ego, his ego, and his ego, respectively
[Olympics]|10:58 Fang asks, "do they test for alcohol?"
[Olympics]|11:00 Allen says, "well, I see an article:"
[Olympics]|11:00 Allen | London 2012 Olympics: Russian Games team and delegation banned from drinking alcohol
[Olympics]|11:01 Fang asks, "delegation?"
[Olympics]|11:01 Allen | "Olympic values are not compatible with alcohol," Ilia Djous, spokesman for Russian Deputy Prime Minister Dmitri Kozak, was quoted as saying in the newspaper Kommersant on Monday.  The decision was taken as a result of the "disastrous results" of the Russian team at the 2010 Winter Games in Vancouver where they achieved just 14 medals out of a predicted tally of up to 50.
[Olympics]|11:01 Allen says, "apparently during the 2010 games, the installed an immitation petrol dispenser which gushed out vodka"
[stevejobs]|11:04 Dave says, "I've worked in the Sears Tower"
[stevejobs]|11:05 Dave says, "it's nice"
[stevejobs]|11:05 Dave says, "they're a little overprotective now though"
[lounge]|11:17 olethros was sworn in by robed priests on Thursday morning.
[lounge]|11:17 olethros says, "ahoi mudisterinios"
[lounge]|11:17 Jizaboz says, "Hey olethros"
[Windows]|11:18 Dave says, "oops"
[Windows]|11:18 Dave says, "installed SKyDrive, moved my Documents folder to it"
[Windows]|11:18 Dave says, "I'd forgotten about the DVDFab folder"
[Windows]|11:18 Dave says, "I've heard you can get banned for that sort of thing"
[Windows]|11:20 olethros asks, "banned from what?"
[Windows]|11:20 Dave says, "well, you can get your account closed"
[snacks]|11:22 olethros says, "mmm grapes"
[Windows]|11:22 olethros says, "sorry, insufficient context"
[Europe]|11:23 olethros asks, "huh EU breakup??"
[gameofthrones]|11:24 olethros says, "almost finishing latest book"
[gameofthrones]|11:24 olethros says, "hm, I guess it's OK."
[Windows]|11:25 Dave says, "SkyDrive is a cloud storage system wired to live.com or hotmail.com (and now outlook.com)"
[gameofthrones]|11:25 olethros says, "quite a few changes of fortune"
[Windows]|11:25 vimes asks, "hm, and they actively police it?"
[Windows]|11:25 Hjalfi says, "It actually doesn't look bad, but it's only accessible via the web or Windows clients."
[Windows]|11:26 Dave says, "if they discover copyrighted material like movies or naked photos (of even your kids) they will close the account without any discussion"
[Windows]|11:26 Dave says, "not strue - SkyDrive is on Mac and iOS"
[Europe]|11:26 Iain asks, "What, right now?"
[Windows]|11:27 Hjalfi says, "Not terribly surprised, but that's not something I'd be likely to notice."
[Windows]|11:28 Dave says, "So I use DropBox for a small space and SkyDrive for big space"
[Windows]|11:28 Dave says, "SkyDrive is cheap, $50 USD for 100GB"
[Windows]|11:28 Dave says, "whereas I can sync DropBox at work without too many concerns"
[Windows]|11:28 Dave says, "I would not want to sync my personal docs at work for the most part"
[gameofthrones]|11:28 olethros says, "I guess mario monti is a bit alarmist but ...."
[gameofthrones]|11:28 olethros says, "lac"
[Olympics]|11:28 Steve says, "#belated Lots of people actually consider marijuana to be a performance enhancer in judo and jiujitsu"
[Europe]|11:29 olethros says, "I guess mario monti is a bit alarmist but .... italian newspapers have been printing things like this:"
[Europe]|11:29 olethros | http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/blog/2012/aug/06/eurozone-crisis-live-monti-warns-euro-breakup#block-501f6ecf95cb226ae5fc72df
[Olympics]|11:29 Iain says, "Show-jumping is down to a penalty shootout!"
[Olympics]|11:29 Iain says, "Or 'jump off' as they call it in equestrian circles."
[Olympics]|11:30 olethros asks, "not 'trot off' or 'prance out'?"
[Olympics]|11:31 Iain says, "Only in dressage, I guess."
[Olympics]|11:31 Iain says, "This is jumping! Not horse-dancing."
[Olympics]|11:31 olethros says, "oh, the obstacle course"
[stevejobs]|11:31 Steve says, "Waiting on Amazon to reply to my salary requirements"
[Olympics]|11:32 olethros asks, "I never understood how points are awarded there. Is it a difficulty + style - penalties thing as in gymnastics?"
[Olympics]|11:32 Iain asks, "What, dressage? Or showjumping?"
[Olympics]|11:32 Iain says, "I believe dressage is just style points for a fixed routine, but I could be wrong."
[Olympics]|11:32 olethros says, "showjumping"
[ganja]|11:32 Allen | On Friday, U.S. Attorney John Walsh's office issued letters to the owners of 10 medical marijuana dispensaries in Colorado that are within 1,000 feet of schools notifying them that they have 45 days to shut down, move their business or face federal enforcement action.
[Olympics]|11:33 Iain says, "In jumping you get something like a 4-point penalty per failed jump, and 1 point per 4 seconds over a time limit."
[Camembert]|11:33 olethros says, "mmm this island has great cheeses"
[Olympics]|11:33 olethros asks, "no style points?"
[Olympics]|11:33 Iain says, "I'm no expert, I just watched 10 minutes of it the other day."
[Olympics]|11:33 olethros says, "you are an expert then."
[Olympics]|11:33 olethros says, "I never watched it for more than 2"
[Olympics]|11:33 Iain says, "Nope. If you're fast and jump cleanly, that's all the style you need."
[Olympics]|11:34 Iain says, "And no bonus points for horse somersaults or anything like that"
[Olympics]|11:34 olethros asks, "and you have to complete a fixed set of obstacles?"
[Olympics]|11:34 Iain says, "Yeah"
[Olympics]|11:34 olethros says, "or do you get more points for some ? ok"
[Olympics]|11:34 Iain says, "And for some reason the obstacles have to be tacky scale models of buildings and things."
[Olympics]|11:35 olethros says, "I thought they were just bars"
[Olympics]|11:35 Iain says, "Right, but they're always attached to a miniature Eiffel Tower or Big Ben or something."
[greece]|11:36 olethros says, "oh the great irony"
[Olympics]|11:36 Iain says, "Surprisingly cheesy for such a posh sport."
[Olympics]|11:36 Steve asks, "When they do something like showjumping or fencing where it's its own event and part of the pentathlon, do the pentathletes compete with everyone else or do they have a totally different round with just them?"
[Olympics]|11:36 Iain says, "I think it's almost always a separate event."
[greece]|11:36 olethros says, "a new operation that targets and removes illegal immigrants has been launched by police. 6000 people have been detained. The operation is called 'Hospitable Zeus'"
[Olympics]|11:38 Iain says, "Another weird thing is how the pentathlon (and maybe the other multi-event athletics things?) is scored with this crazily complex system. Distance of Javelin throw minus 31.1 metres, divided by 7.3, to the power of 1.04, that sort of thing."
[Olympics]|11:38 Iain says, "Whereas in some other events like the sailing and cycling, you just get 1 opint for winning, 2 for coming second, etc, and the overall winner is the person with the fewest points."
[Olympics]|11:38 olethros says, "yeah, you have to be able to adjust"
[Olympics]|11:39 Iain says, "I'm not sure which I like best."
[Olympics]|11:39 olethros says, "ranking is easier, but provides no absolute quality measure"
[Olympics]|11:39 Iain says, "The heptathlon system is fairer, but opaque."
[Olympics]|11:39 olethros asks, "oh, is it automatic?"
[Camembert]|11:40 olethros says, "so right now I am trying this black cheese"
[Olympics]|11:40 Iain says, " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heptathlon#Point_system "
[Camembert]|11:40 olethros says, "it's very crumbly, salty, and pungent and marinated in some black thing"
[Olympics]|11:40 olethros was looking at that
[Olympics]|11:40 Iain says, "You don't have a third party ending up as kingmaker, so that's good."
[Olympics]|11:40 Iain says, "On the other hand, sometimes that's exciting!"
[lounge]|11:40 Gunther apparently summons the Ruins of Old Magincia onto the Town of New Magincia, crushing everyone beneath piles of completely inexplicable towers.
[lounge]|11:41 Gunther says, "reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee"
[Olympics]|11:41 olethros says, "I guess a is the weighting..."
[Olympics]|11:41 olethros says, "so you'd like the average performance divided by a to be a constant"
[Olympics]|11:42 Iain says, "I think they're weighted so that 1000 points is a really good score."
[Olympics]|11:42 Iain says, "And 7000 overall is a great score."
[Olympics]|11:42 olethros says, "THAT MAKES NO SENSE"
[Olympics]|11:42 Iain says, "Since these factors were set a while ago, I wouldn't be surprised if it's become unbalanced."
[Olympics]|11:42 Iain asks, "What makes no sense?"
[Olympics]|11:43 olethros says, "ok, so basically b is the 'expected performance of an amateur athlete'"
[Olympics]|11:43 Iain asks, "Where does it say that?"
[Olympics]|11:43 olethros says, "I am saying that"
[Olympics]|11:43 Iain says, "Heh"
[Olympics]|11:43 Iain asks, "200m is 42.5?"
[Olympics]|11:43 Iain says, "Amateur non-athlete, maybe."
[Olympics]|11:44 Iain says, "Er, amatuer."
[Olympics]|11:44 olethros says, "Un Tuer!"
[Olympics]|11:44 olethros says, "I think amateur is correct"
[Olympics]|11:44 olethros says, "it seems to me that it would make sense for b to be something of that sort"
[Olympics]|11:45 olethros says, "but shot put and javelin throw do not fit"
[Olympics]|11:45 Iain says, "I'd love to see the backstory."
[Olympics]|11:45 olethros follows the link
[Olympics]|11:46 Iain says, "I guess the idea is roughly 'what incremental improvement is worth an extra 10 points?'"
[Olympics]|11:46 Gunther says, "if only there were some encylopedia explaining this"
[Olympics]|11:46 olethros says, "there was a Working Group in a Technical Committee in 1982"
[Olympics]|11:46 Gunther says, "perhaps one anyone can edit"
[Olympics]|11:46 Iain says, "And maybe that's much bigger for Javelin than for running, say."
[Olympics]|11:46 Grocible says, ""Man charged with 100m bottle throw""
[Olympics]|11:46 Grocible says, "that's a pretty good new olympic sport"
[Olympics]|11:46 Iain says, "Hee hee."
[Olympics]|11:46 Grocible says, "one the British and Irish will excel at, I'm sure"
[Olympics]|11:47 Gunther says, "illegal genie, disqualified"
[Olympics]|11:47 Grocible says, "along with a 10m chunder"
[Olympics]|11:47 Iain says, "Hey, this official writeup of the system is pretty good."
[Olympics]|11:48 olethros says, "yeah it is. So a wikipedia article would be inferior"
[Olympics]|11:48 Gunther says, "or would it"
[Olympics]|11:48 Gunther says, "it could have, eg, a history of changes to the system, and trivia"
[Olympics]|11:49 Gunther says, "it is also distinctly possible that I couldn't care less"
[Olympics]|11:51 olethros says, "this document does have the history of changes, and the goals of the new system, but does not explain how it was technically developed"
[Olympics]|11:51 olethros says, "anyway, I would have used a fraction rather than a difference"
[lounge]|11:52 Richie says, "Dinnertime!"
[lounge]|11:52 Richie ambles off.
[greece]|11:53 olethros says, "eeek"
[google]|11:53 Hjalfi says, "What, no Mars-based Google doodle? I'm disappointed in you, Google. Deeply."
[greece]|11:54 olethros says, "minister of Public Order says things like 'the country is lost! Never before since descent of the doreans 4000 years ago had it submitted to such a great invasion..'"
[Olympics]|11:59 Grocible says, "what really matters is whether y ou can wrap a banner around your willy"
[Olympics]|11:59 Grocible says, " http://cdni.wired.co.uk/462x693/a_c/1912_stockholm.jpg "
[apropos-of-nothing]|12:00 Steve asks, "We can all agree that King of Prussia, PA is a silly name for a city, right?"
[apropos-of-nothing]|12:01 Iain says, "If it's not in Prussia, yeah."
[whiz-games]|12:01 Whizzard stretches.
[whiz-games]|12:01 Whizzard says, "burbl."
[Olympics]|12:03 olethros says, "the youth behind him seems pretty eager"
[lounge]|12:03 olethros says, "ok off"
[lounge]|12:03 olethros has ordered three mega-generators to be installed in his boathouse.
[stevejobs]|12:03 Steve says, "Nice-looking job, with multiple locations, but the locations are:"
[stevejobs]|12:03 Steve | Norcross, GA; Hillsboro, OR; Dallas/Irving TX; Brookfield, WI; Lake Mary, FL; King of Prussia, PA; Morris Plains, NJ
[stevejobs]|12:04 Steve says, "AKA: no way in hell, ehh, no way in hell, ehh, no way in hell, ehh, and ehh"
[stevejobs]|12:05 Matthew says, "I don't think I've ever heard of any of those places."
[stevejobs]|12:06 Matthew says, "Well, er, other than Dallas."
[stevejobs]|12:08 Dave says, "Brookfield, WI is just west of Milwaukee"
[stevejobs]|12:08 Dave says, "it's actually very nice...most of my family lives there"
[stevejobs]|12:08 Dave says, "or thereabouts"
[stevejobs]|12:09 Steve says, "It seems ok-ish, location-wise"
[stevejobs]|12:09 Steve says, "If I were to live in WI, I would rather Madison"
[stevejobs]|12:09 Dave says, "lower cost of living...good schools...Brookfield Mall is great"
[stevejobs]|12:09 Dave says, "Brookfield is a GOP enclave though, if that matters"
[stevejobs]|12:10 Steve says, "Not necessarily that big of a thing, although I do have a rule that I won't live in a state that was a member of the Confederacy"
[stevejobs]|12:11 Dave says, "I would keep your mind open about Brookfield"
[stevejobs]|12:11 Dave says, "from a raising a family perspective, it's pretty top notch"
[lounge]|12:11 zarf walks in through the wall. Behind him, light shines briefly through, pale violet this time of day.
[Olympics]|12:11 Iain says, "Ultra-belatedly -- aha! b isn't amateur standard, it's 'nil points' standard."
[stevejobs]|12:12 Dave says, "(I grew up 10 minutes east of there)"
[stevejobs]|12:12 Dave says, "downside is, you'd be surrounded by Packer fans"
[Olympics]|12:13 Iain says, "Awesome, I bet I could totally get a positive score in several if not many of these Decathlon events."
[space]|12:14 zarf says, "from commentary last night, I gather that if the thrusters were directly on the rover, it would kick up too much dust coming down and bugger the radar."
[space]|12:14 Hjalfi says, "Yep."
[space]|12:14 zarf says, "wait, you just said that"
[space]|12:14 zarf says, "damn recap"
[space]|12:14 Hjalfi says, "Yep."
[space]|12:14 zarf says, "okay, try this instead:"
[space]|12:14 zarf | No one would have believed in the last orden of the jeddak of O-Daj that this world was being watched keenly and closely by intelligences who would then drop a dune buggy on our heads.
[space]|12:15 Hjalfi says, "Yep."
[lounge]|12:15 Hjalfi removes the nodding bird from his keyboard.
[lounge]|12:15 Hjalfi says, "ILAC."
[space]|12:16 Hjalfi says, "I did spot a new dispatch from K'Breel on the new act of aggression by the blue planet."
[space]|12:17 Hjalfi says, "Also, THIS IS AWESOME: http://twitpic.com/ag8j1w "
[lounge]|12:20 Rob comes right on in.
[lounge]|12:20 Rob says, "zrbg"
[lounge]|12:20 Grocible says, "Total Robkall"
[lounge]|12:22 * Marktwo has disconnected.
[lounge]|12:22 * Marktwo has connected.
[lounge]|12:24 inky originally had the name "Legacy," a ponytail and one of those '90s headgear things everybody seemed to have for a while.
[xkcd]|12:25 zarf says, " http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151339552859616&set=a.10150140183694616.341379.746234615 (wedding cake)"
[lounge]|12:27 Grocible says, "and grandmaster ink"
[lounge]|12:28 Rob says, "ink-a-doo"
[firearms]|12:32 Allen says, "ok, this is great: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CriVUV5lh_M "
[lounge]|12:32 Grocible says, "Tell us your fantasies, Rob. And we can make them happen!"
[lounge]|12:32 Grocible says, "Want to be in a movie with artificial anamorphic lens flare? iFMUD can make it happen"
[lounge]|12:33 inky says, "bzzzzrowwwn"
[firearms]|12:33 Allen says, "5 armed men try to rob a pawn shop, then take off fast as they possibly can the moment an elderly womn shows up and chases them out with a gun of her own"
[lounge]|12:33 zarf says, "*here let me tape this fishing line to your eyes hold still*"
[space]|12:33 Hjalfi exclaims, "Horizontal velocity on landing was 4cm per second. There's still room for improvement!"
[lounge]|12:33 Grocible says, "Vertically"
[jobs]|12:35 Dave says, "tech screen at 1"
[jobs]|12:35 Dave says, "if it goes well, in-person on Wednesday"
[jobs]|12:35 Dave says, "if it goes well, start Monday"
[jobs]|12:35 inky asks, "with who?"
[jobs]|12:35 Dave says, "fairly high pay rate"
[jobs]|12:35 Dave says, "consulting firm"
[jobs]|12:36 Dave says, "trying to build an office in Chicago...HQ is in Tampa"
[weather]|12:37 Rob says, "raindrops !!"
[weather]|12:37 Rob says, "allelujah"
[lounge]|12:37 Rob says, "oops rain means I need to clamber back inside"
[lounge]|12:37 Rob moseys right on out.
[lounge]|12:37 Grocible says, "that's not much of a fantasy"
[lounge]|12:38 inky asks, "what, raining?"
[lounge]|12:38 Grocible says, "Yeah"
[lounge]|12:38 zarf says, "I wish it were raining here"
[lounge]|12:38 inky says, "rain in texas in the summer is kind of a fantasy"
[lounge]|12:38 Grocible says, "though I guess it casts a nice slick reflective texture over everythign"
[lounge]|12:38 Grocible says, "raining off an on today in London"
[lounge]|12:38 ghira shot the mermaid, but he did not shoot the manatee
[lounge]|12:38 ghira says, "meep"
[gardening]|12:41 Allen | http://www.foodrenegade.com/tulsa-woman-sues-city-for-destroying-her-garden/
[gardening]|12:42 inky says, "food renegade"
[gardening]|12:43 inky says, "I wonder why they dug up her garden"
[weblogs]|12:44 baf says, "Paul Hughes asks, in a comment on my blog, 'Were you the guy who gave the $50 to the guy on reddit?'"
[weblogs]|12:45 baf asks, "Does anyone know what he's talking about?"
[weblogs]|12:45 inky says, "yeah, it's this ARG thing"
[weblogs]|12:46 inky | http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/weo8j/today_a_homeless_looking_man_handed_me_50_and/
[UK]|12:47 Grocible says, "that footage of british cops being attacked by a dog is embarrassing"
[UK]|12:47 Grocible says, "like one guy's being bitten and his colleagues are like running away"
[UK]|12:47 Grocible says, "and it takes them ages before someone shoots the dog"
[UK]|12:48 Grocible says, "man. if I were being attacked by a dog and had a gun nearby, I wouldn't have any compunction against immediate dog death"
[UK]|12:48 Hjalfi asks, "You realise they'd have to call in for some firearms, right?"
[lounge]|12:48 Rob comes right on in.
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[UK] Grocible says, "I thought the story was they had guns for the raid. there were a bunch of them"
[Olympics] Rob says, "wow, I just saw one of the most amazing synchronized swimming routines I've ever seen"
[UK] Hjalfi says, "Probably, then. But they don't carry guns as a matter of course."
[UK] Grocible says, "Sure. But they were raiding a house"
[Olympics] Rob says, "it raised me above my 'ha ha this event is silly' natural bias to being vaguely agog within moment"
[Olympics] Rob says, "s"
[Olympics] Rob says, "although the strange plastic forced open mouth smiles on the faces of the swimmers made me think of ventriloquist dummies"
[Olympics] Rob says, "or puppets being synchro danced by an unseen puppet master, probably also known as russian synchro swimming coaches"
[UK] Grocible says, "and it seems they had a marksman on site"
[Olympics] Rob says, "also saw some table tennis"
[Olympics] Rob says, "not sure why the chinese are so dominantly into this but they do seem to be"
[Olympics] Rob says, "I had a chinese friend and housemate in college and he was a vicious table tennis player"
[Olympics] Gunther says, "all Austrian table tennis players are naturalized Chinese"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "just don't call it ping pong"
[Olympics] Rob says, "I've seen the men's and women's table tennis. the serves are weird"
[Olympics] Gunther says, "(those who compete internationally, I mean)"
[Olympics] Rob says, "they have a pre-serve ritual, the chinese men and women, of holding the ball in a zen-like stillness in the palm of their hand, before doing a weird-arm move serve"
[space] Hjalfi asks, "I know Curiosity is the biggest thing ever landed on Mars deliberately. But what about accidentally?"
[Olympics] Rob says, "I'm assiduously not calling it that even though I normally do"
[space] Gunther says, "asteroids"
[space] Hjalfi asks, "Which was the probe that had the metric/imperial thing?"
[Olympics] Rob says, "the women also did this thing of bouncing the ball centimeters off the table before doing the palm move"
[space] baf says, "Probably that balloonist."
[space] Hjalfi says, "Ah, Mars Climate Orbiter. 300kg. So that doesn't count."
[Olympics] Rob says, "this chinese guy seems to have a different superstitious ritual of rubbing the table near the net first instead of bouncing the ball"
[Olympics] Rob says, "yesterday I saw a match of handball"
[Olympics] inky says, "infinite jest talks about tennis players having a bunch of ritualized behaviors"
[space] Gunther says, "heh heh orbiter heh heh"
[Olympics] inky says, "that they get in the process of drilling for years"
[Olympics] Rob says, "which I'd never really heard of before, but it looks just like (what everyone but USA calls) football, except you play it with your hands, instead of your feet"
[Olympics] Rob says, "which made perfect sense"
[Olympics] Rob says, "also looks like the ice and field variants of hockey, as if there's this whole family of games"
[Olympics] Rob says, "and I guess it makes basketball look like another variant where the goalie is replaced by making the goal a basket and putting it up in the air, so physics is the goalie"
[Olympics] inky says, "ha ha"
[Olympics] Rob says, "yeah hrm that reminds me I was in the process of reading infinite jest"
[Olympics] inky says, "man, that dude blocks all my shots"
[Olympics] Rob says, "even knowing wallace was a tennis player in his youth didn't quite make all the tennis arcana go down smoothly"
[Olympics] Gunther says, "hey, re Allen's athlete:"
[headlines] inky | Johnson (groin) returns to practice with Texans
[Olympics] Gunther | US athlete out of Olympics, blames baked goods
[Olympics] inky says, "ha ha"
[Olympics] Gunther says, "ITYM "baking's good""
[Olympics] Rob says, "but then my kindle screen went futz in the upper corner and it scotched a lot of my casual reading"
[Olympics] Rob says, "partly because I've been too lazy to send the kindle in for what is likely a free replacement"
[Olympics] Rob says, "actually maybe I've lazed so long I'm outside the warranty year blah"
[Olympics] Gunther says, "oh rob you prang"
[headlines] Rob asks, "wharr ?"
[Olympics] Rob says, "trying to remember all my saved up olympics observations while I'm doing the core dump"
[headlines] Gunther says, "had groin injury, was successfully castrated"
[Olympics] inky says, "observation: if I was doing shotput, I bet the vast majority of the time I would not manage to throw it in the correct direction to get out of the throwing cage"
[Olympics] Rob says, "had various thoughts the other night that I'd like to see more co-ed events in the future anywhere there's a pair or a foursome or other multiple of two"
[Olympics] Rob says, "beach volleyball, rowing, whatever"
[Olympics] Rob says, "swimming 4x4s"
[Olympics] inky says, "that's a good idea"
[Olympics] Rob says, "it seems like it"
[Olympics] Rob says, "to me, anyway"
[Olympics] Gunther says, "4x4s usually sink"
[Olympics] Rob says, "so you'd see what a guy and a gal can do together"
[Olympics] Gunther says, "wait 2x4s joke fail"
[Olympics] Rob says, "the winter olympics has the ice skating pairs"
[Olympics] zarf says, "mixed doubles shotput"
[Olympics] inky says, "oh, I thought you meant a 4x4 like the all-terrain vehicle"
[Olympics] Gunther says, "gal shotputs guy"
[Olympics] Rob says, "and it's neat to see a man and a woman being awesome as a pair sometimes"
[Olympics] Gunther says (to inky), "yeah that is totally what I meant"
[Olympics] Rob says, "no like the thing where they relay 4 people"
[Olympics] Rob says, "so two would be guys and two would be women"
[Olympics] inky says, "given what Gunther just said I am assuming that means they carry four people around"
[Olympics] Rob says, "synchro diving male/female pairs"
[Olympics] zarf says, "quad team field-stripping a VW Beetle"
[Olympics] Gunther says (to Rob), "it'll never work"
[Olympics] Rob says, "there's a lot of pair events I've been watching where it seems like it could be fun to see both sexes represented"
<vaporware> DON'T buy a parrot figuring that it will be a fun surprise for me.
vaporware seems to imply that real wages in the mariachi sector were falling steadily even before the recession, which is interesting.
[Olympics] Rob says, "of course it could"
Gunther says, "happyware"
vaporware says, "ahoy"
Gunther says, "(birthday that is)"
[Olympics] Rob says, "there are a few events that are getting mixed versions already"
inky says, "hey, look at that"
inky says, "happy birthday!"
Rob says, "huh"
Rob says, "happy birthday"
Rob says, "so how annoyingly young still are you"
vaporware says, "Thanks! I'll keep you all posted on my campaign for Senate."
Rob asks, "egad, have you only just qualified for that?"
vaporware asks, "I know, right?"
Rob says, "sigh"
Rob says, "hm I should be running for president"
[Olympics] Rob says, "maybe by 2024"
Hjalfi says, "Offtime."
Hjalfi enthusiastically mundanifies between spasms of personality-occultism and off-topic casual/social-leveraging.
</Hjalfi> Become immortal or die!
[Olympics] Rob says, "also, watching the 100m track-and-field sprinters, it's hard to reconcile how short a distance it seems flying by that fast with how long it takes the fastest swimmers to cover the same distance"
[Olympics] Rob says, "which makes the distance seem more distant"
[Olympics] Rob says, "rate times time and all that"
[Olympics] Gunther says, "wtf bike sprintinh"
[Olympics] Gunther says, "g"
[Olympics] Rob says, "also in all of these events there's always some guys who are lagging haplessly and hopelessly behind the star athletes in the top three, and I often think, 'that guy is faster than everyone else on the planet at this, pretty much, except these seven other guys'"
[Olympics] Rob says, "but they look totally lame in comparison unfortunately"
[Olympics] Gunther says (to Rob), " http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/08/05/sports/olympics/the-100-meter-dash-one-race-every-medalist-ever.html "
[Olympics] Rob says, "I saw some sprinting trials over the weekend, and amongst all the jamaicans and nigerians and african-americans there was one chinese guy and one japanese guy"
[Olympics] Rob says, "and being the fastest guy in china or japan just doesn't cut it in a sadly hilarious way"
[Olympics] Rob says, "diving and table tennis, though, look out"
[Olympics] Rob says, "I saw some greco-roman wrestling, too"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "if the athletes weren't nude it doesn't count"
[Olympics] Rob says, "which just looks like muscly little guys shoving each other"
[Olympics] Rob says, "if they go 90 seconds without anything happening they call for a 'par terre', where one guy gets on his hands and knees in a submissive position on the mat and the other guy grapples him from behind"
[Olympics] Rob says, "which is really really hard not to see as incredibly gay looking"
[Olympics] inky says, "wooo party"
[Olympics] Rob says, "there was a scene in brokeback mountain that was similar"
[Olympics] Rob says, "although, actually, this is the most interesting part of the wrestling match"
[Olympics] inky says, "hmm"
[Olympics] inky asks, "why isn't sumo an olympic sport?"
[Olympics] Gunther says, "too few are fat enough"
[Olympics] Rob says, "the guy who's on the ground tries to stiffen all his muscles enough that he cannot be flipped over by the other guy, and when they manage to fight this off even from this disadvantaged position, it looks genuinely like an athletic achievement, I'm surprised to report"
[Olympics] Gunther says, "the whole child obesity thing is a conspiracy theory to change this"
[Olympics] Rob says (to inky), "I dunno, it seems like it could be"
[Olympics] inky says, "hmm, this person claims | Because today any new sport that wants to become an Olympic sport has to have both male and female athletes."
[Olympics] inky says, "I wonder if that is true"
[Olympics] Gunther says, "also olympic sports must be practiced in 60 countries over 3 continents"
[Olympics] Rob says, "also, a while back someone on here asked why fencing had turned into a Tron event, and I didn't know what they meant until I caught a few minutes of it"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "hardly anybody outside Japan can do sumo"
[Olympics] Rob says, "it's an accurate description of modern olympic fencing technology apparently"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "plus sumo has all that religious shit with it"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "yeah, the tron stuff was funny"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "I saw women's fencing"
[Olympics] Rob says, "there could be female sumo"
[Olympics] Rob says, "there's a 175 pound weight class female judo even"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "aka BBW sumo"
[Olympics] Rob says, "t"
[Olympics] Gunther says, "huh there's multiple black cyclists in the bike duels"
[Olympics] inky says, "the other tronny thing was team pursuit"
[Olympics] Rob asks, "what's team pursuit?"
[Olympics] Rob says, "sounds like RUnning Man"
[Olympics] inky says, "it's this weird team cycling thing"
[Olympics] Grocible asks, "where the cyclists get knocked out?"
[Olympics] Rob says, "I saw women fencing, and after every point, this one athlete from India would let out a scream"
[Olympics] Rob says, "it got so annoying I stopped watching it"
[Olympics] Rob says, "one or two points more annoying than tennis players who screech or grunt on every hit"
[Olympics] inky says, "apparently wimbledon is thinking about banning grunting"
[Olympics] Gunther says, "well, you get hit by a razor-sharp needlepoint"
[Olympics] Rob says, "I also fail to get why entire volleyball teams have to hug and slap asses every single point"
[Olympics] Rob says, "every. single. point."
[Olympics] Rob says, "men and women"
[Olympics] inky says, "I guess somebody said in tennis it's a strategic thing to try to drown out the sound of your ball hitting or something"
[Olympics] Gunther says, "drives up viewing numbers"
[Olympics] Rob says, "drove me away, as a data point"
[Olympics] inky asks, "yeah, I mean, this is the sport where it's just this year they were allowed to wear non-bikinis, right?"
[Olympics] Gunther says, "also http://www.petapixel.com/2012/08/05/what-if-every-olympic-sport-was-photographed-like-lbeach-volleyball/ "
[Olympics] Rob says, "if I were on a beach or team volleyball team I'd be like 'ok dude save it until the end of the match'"
[Olympics] Rob says, "also, apparently women's volleyball teams play to 25, where men play to 21, even though men's and women's beach volleyball goes to 21"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "I saw the fencing match with the controversial hit"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "that was interesting"
[Olympics] Rob asks, "I didn't hear about this. what controversial hit?"
[Olympics] inky asks, "are fencing matches actually interesting to watch?"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "this one was"
[Olympics] inky says, "they seem like they must be really fast"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "but this was mostly interesting to me as it was new"
[Olympics] inky says, "(and hard to understand what is going on)"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "I don't know if I'd really be interested again"
[Olympics] Rob says, "they're pretty fast point for point"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "rob: austrian judge awarded a fucked up decision and stuff"
[Olympics] Gunther says, "just watch the one between Brosnan and Madonna"
[Olympics] Rob says, "probably more interesting to be one of the fencers than to watch"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "the main problem with fencing is that they sort of dance around for a bit and then bzzzzap"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "it's like a wasp striking"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "and it's so fast it's hard to make out what happened, especially from a distance"
<jmac> jmac has connected to ifMUD.
[Olympics] Grocible says, "maybe up close it'd be more interesting"
[Olympics] Rob says, "I am totally not into sports but somehow I am into this particular Olympics"
[Olympics] Gunther says, "apparently they had to ban "standing around on bike" for this bike duel thing"
[Olympics] inky says, "ha ha"
[Olympics] inky asks, "what?"
[Olympics] Rob says, "I dunno why. just feels like the thing that's the thing to be into even for me"
[Olympics] Gunther says, "because athletes would literally stand around on their bikes for hours"
[Olympics] Gunther says, "to psych out the opponent"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "I managed to get a shot of the fateful shot, which was cool: http://nkguy.com/temp/fencing.jpg "
[Olympics] Fang asks, "do people mean the south korean thing?"
[Olympics] Fang says, "the controversial hit"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "Yeah"
[Olympics] zarf says, "I am looking at some fencing now. I think it's the kind of thing where if you know the sport you can tell what's going on, but if not, forget it"
[Olympics] Rob says, "I wish I'd seen some of the badminton matches that turned into the 'throwing the match to be better seeded later' scandal"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "and the news media were like "South Korean fencer holds a sit-down protest in tears""
[Olympics] Gunther says, "this event: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Individual_pursuit "
[Olympics] Grocible says, "which is totally distortion of what happened"
[Olympics] Fang says, "yeah, it was mainly a timing issue, I think"
[Olympics] Rob says, "apparently if their helmet glows green or red it means they scored a hit. or were hit. I never figured out which."
[Olympics] Grocible says, "yeah the helmet lights were funny"
[programming] inky says, "ok, maybe I sold this guy too hard on linq"
[Olympics] Rob says, "even with the woman screaming as a signifier each point"
[programming] inky | ((ushort[])value).Skip(11).Take(1).ToArray()[0]
[Olympics] Grocible says, "fang: yeah the hit occurred after 1 second, but the judge called it wrong"
[programming] Rob says, "#thedailyinkywtf"
<Jota> Black lightning pierces your mind for an instant.
Jota arrives from the east.
Jota greets.
[Olympics] Grocible says, "and after an hour's arguing they upheld the wrong call"
[Olympics] Gunther says (to Rob), "see, to the blood made it easy"
Rob greets Jota.
[Olympics] Grocible says, "despite piles of evidence to the contrary"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "it was all pretty disgusting really"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "like if they wanted to make their sport look incompetent and corrupt, they did a fine job"
[programming] Jon asks, "wait, ToArray()[0]? is that really the best way to get a single value?"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "the "stay on the piste" rule humiliated the south korean, the requiring money to appeal rule looks like corruption, and upholding an incorrect ruling because of shitty timekeeping makes the judges look like idiots"
[Olympics] Rob says, "I'm also curious about all these people who hover around in some grey blazer'd judging capacity. these men and women, all in their 50s at least, who stand behind athletes, peer over the edges of pools, lurk around the starting line of races"
[programming] Jon says, "I like SQLAlchemy's .all(), .first(), and .one() query operators. .all() does the query, returns a list. .first() applies limit 1, returns the first result. .one() applies limit _2_, throws an exception of there's not exactly one result, otherwise returns that result."
[Olympics] Fang asks, "I thought the requring money was a reasonable rule that's generally mischaracterised?"
[Olympics] Rob asks, "who are they? how are they qualified? what is it that they do?"
[Olympics] Grocible asks, "what's reasonable about the money?"
[Olympics] Fang says, "the idea is that the money is held in trust and returned if the appeal is accepted"
[Olympics] Rob says, "I saw the requiring-money rule during the women's gymnastics events"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "it's not going to prevent frivolous appeals"
[Olympics] Fang says, "the idea is that it reduces spurious repeals"
[Olympics] Fang says, "er, appeals"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "but it's like 100 quid in cash or something"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "it's pointless and looks dirty"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "with that much at stake, money isn't going to stop anybody"
[Olympics] Fang says, "well, still, it's not like you are bribing the judge"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "so it's a dumb-ass rule"
[Olympics] Rob says, "the japanese coaches were waving what looked like US dollars around while appealing a balance beam decision, and filling out forms, and the NBC announcers tried to explain how the appeal bureacracy has gotten really rigid lately and cash has to be involved as well as a lot of forms"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "yeah, but it looks wrong"
[Olympics] Rob says, "they mentioned that if the appeal is legit you get the money back"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "it looks like you're buying someone off, and I don't see how it serves its intended purpose"
[Olympics] Fang asks, "perhaps if the amount was greater?"
[Olympics] Rob says, "yeah they were trying to explain how something that looked really wrong was someone following the procedures"
[Olympics] Fang asks, "and it wasn't paid in cash?"
[Olympics] Gunther says, "I like the idea that they always have to have a hundred in cash with them"
[Olympics] Rob says, "heh"
[Olympics] Gunther says, "even the swimmers"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "then that'd be even worse, as the Americans could afford to appeal, but Haitians couldn't"
[Olympics] Fang asks, "have it be a proportion of GDP?"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "michael phelps always had a franklin stashed in his shorts"
[Olympics] Fang says, "oh I don't know"
[Olympics] boucher says, "Belatedly, Individual Pursuit is my favorite trivia board game for people without friends."
[Olympics] Rob says, "when I mentioned weird table tennis pre-serve rituals, I was also reminded that some of the swimmers have this thing where they splash themselves with pool water before an event, some of them even chucking a handful of water into their mouths"
[Olympics] Fang says, "ew"
[Olympics] Rob says, "only some of them do this, but the ones that do look like they're doing a superstitious ritual that they picked up from someone else"
[Olympics] Rob says, "yeah, it's kinda ew"
[Olympics] Gunther says (to Rob), "that's hopefully before they all piss in it"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "drinking other swimmers' pee"
[Olympics] Rob says, "especially with that conversation the other day about athletes pissing in the pool"
[Olympics] boucher says, "Also my favorite euphemism for something which probably will never be made an Olympic sport."
[Olympics] Rob says, "so this is why I noticed it"
[Olympics] Fang says, "I wonder if peeing while swimmer adds an appreciable amount of jet propulsion"
[Olympics] K-Y says, "I like how everyone remembers that conversation the other day"
[Olympics] Gunther says (to boucher), "I dunno, I bet it's practiced by men and women in >60 countries on >3 continents"
[Olympics] Fang says, "*swimming"
[Olympics] Rob says, "'how did they get into this ritualistic habit of dousing themselves and rinsing-spitting (hopefully not drinking) the water?'"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "sports is full of silly superstition"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "any time you get a major element of chance you get people clinging to superstition"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "like putting tape on their ass"
[Olympics] Gunther says, "the UK just got 5/6 golds in cycling events"
[Olympics] Rob says, "there was an italian-american 1500 meter runner I saw yesterday who started licking his fingers and rubbing them in sort of ritualistic semi-Catholic ways on parts of his body, including his face, chest, arms, and shins"
[Olympics] K-Y says, "also, it would be Fang trying to calculate pee again"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "or praying. like God would really care who wins or loses a game when there are actual real world problems of life and death out there"
[Olympics] Rob says, "it was really weird. but he came in 4th and qualified for the semifinals, so I guess it was ok for him"
[Olympics] Fang says, "the french are accusing the UK of having 'magic' wheels, yeah"
[Olympics] Rob says, "I kind of wished he'd done that stuff in the locker room before coming out in front of the cameras and a billion viewers"
[Olympics] Gunther says (to Rob), "it's a dare to the cameras"
[Olympics] boucher says, "If I were an Olympic athlete, I'd totally have a private bet going to see what stupid thing I could convince people to do next.  'Hey, how about you balance your shoe on your head for a minute, then slap yourself gently five times before each event?'"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "technical sports should involve exchanging equipment"
[Olympics] Rob says, "there were some caught moments of syncrho diving coaches engaging in superstitious rituals, which were interesting"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "like you'd be forced to give your bike to someone else"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "randomly"
[Olympics] K-Y says (to Grocible), "also, prosthetic legs"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "so there'd be no chance of people taking advantage of technology"
[Olympics] Gunther says (to Grocible), "that makes no sense, different sizes and weights require different equipment"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "well you'd standardize things"
[Olympics] boucher says, "And now, coming up, the Men's 500 meter Prisoner's Dilemma"
[programming] inky says, "yeah, he could just have done ((ushort[])value)[11]"
[Olympics] Gunther says, "you can't standardize things"
[Olympics] Rob says, "I wish I could see some of the paralympics"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "sailboats do"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "they're less personalised than bikes, though"
[Olympics] Gunther says, "someone who weighs 20kg more and is 20cm taller will need a different bike"
[Olympics] Gunther says, "or skis"
[programming] inky says, "since he was starting out with an array"
[Olympics] Rob says, "I did see on the Boomerang cartoon cable network some ancient episodes of the hanna-barbera Laff-A-Lympics though"
[programming] inky says, "(and yeah, C# also has a First() method)"
[Olympics] Fang asks (of Grocible), "wouldn't you end up ;wouldn't everyone just resent the guy from <insert poor country>?"
[Olympics] boucher says, "ESPN Classic still runs episodes of Battle of the Network Stars"
[Olympics] Rob says, "I watched two episodes of that to boggle that I used to watch it every saturday. granted, I was seven years old, but I still could barely believe I spent any time watching something so forced and unfunny"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "fang: sure, but at least that'd be funnier for the spectators"
[programming] Gunther asks (of inky), "does .skip(10) have any failsafes built in?"
[Olympics] Rob says (to boucher), "they do? wow"
[programming] inky asks, "what does it do if the list isn't that long, you mean?"
[Olympics] Rob says, "Iremember watching those, too"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "the olympics people need to admit that at the end of the day, sports is just entertainment"
[programming] Gunther says, "yup"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "not some pure near-religious athletic ceremony"
[www-sux] marc says, "man, just spent ages looking into third party cookies"
[programming] inky says, "looks like it returns an empty list"
[Olympics] Rob says, "there's something quasi-something about human beings excelling to excellence"
[www-sux] marc says, "i have come to one salient conclusion: it's time to go home"
[www-sux] inky says, "it turns out they're no substitute for home-baked"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "enh"
[programming] Gunther says, "as opposed to an illegal access exception for [11]"
[Olympics] Rob says, "in such a way that an average person can recognize excellence when they see it"
[programming] inky says, "that's true"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "it's all about cheating and corporate sponsors and communist countries funding stuff and capitalist countries spending advertising revenue on equipment and people lucky to be born with certain bodies and so on and so forth just as much"
[Olympics] Fang says, "I think sports is far from entertainment for some countries"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "but those aspects, while just as much a part of the whole event, are sort of not talked about as if they didn't exist"
[Olympics] Fang says (to Grocible), "I understand the cynicism"
[Olympics] Fang says, "but"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "I'm not saying I don't think it's enjoyable"
[Olympics] zarf says, "it's gotten too important, is my problem"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "I've been to two Olympics and know that angle as much as anybody"
[Olympics] Rob says, "yeah there is all that, though they try to hide it. well, maybe not so much with the corporate sponsorships"
[Olympics] Fang says, "look at the olympics from the perspective of, say, Nigeria"
[Olympics] Gunther says, "I don't think competitive sports in *anything* are fun for anyone involved"
[Olympics] Fang says, "or Rwanda"
[Olympics] Rob says, "important in what way to whom"
[Olympics] Gunther says, "Super Bowl, World Championships, etc."
[Olympics] Fang says, "the olympics is there one big chance to prove to the rest of the world they are human beings."
[Olympics] Fang says, "*their"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "well sure. it's like black americans' attitudes towards boxing or the military. it's a way out of poverty for a few"
[Olympics] Rob says (to Fang), "hm that's nice"
[Olympics] Fang says, "as opposed to just a bunch of hungry mouthes, or corpses on the TV"
[Olympics] boucher says, "I recall some fun stuff from Deus Ex about how badly human augmentation was screwing up sports culture.  I can't wait until it's not just steroids, and the 'Cheetah Legs' question becomes impossibly complex.  'No fair.  Your bionic arms give you an unnecessary advantage.  You have to exchange arms now.'"
[Olympics] Gunther says, "except they don't get far enough for networks to broadcast the sports they're in"
[Olympics] zarf says, "I mean, all this stuff about layers of rules and forms and building stadiums and stupidity is what you get when too many people have too much of an interest in an event"
[Olympics] zarf says, "and the interest has long since outweighed the original point"
[Olympics] Fang says, "well, it varies from year to year, but african countries often do well in athletics"
[Olympics] Gunther says, "3 of them"
[Olympics] Gunther says, "Ghana, Ethiopia and Kenya"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "a few african countries do well in certain types of low-cost athletics"
[Olympics] Rob says, "a lot more than that are there at the olympics, though"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "so many olympic sports are money and equipment based"
[Olympics] Fang says, "but the principle is the same though"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "especially winter games"
[Olympics] Rob says, "not fastwalking!"
[Olympics] Gunther says, "but those same guys are in marathons all over the world"
[Olympics] Fang asks, "the point is that outside of the olympics, what do these countries have?"
[Olympics] Gunther says, "they don't need the olympic games"
[Olympics] Fang asks, "what do they have to be proud of?"
[Olympics] Gunther says (to Fang), "The African Cup of Nations"
[Olympics] Grocible says, " http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvpKouRTCx0 "
[Olympics] Fang says, "har"
[Olympics] boucher says (to Gunther), "Also, if you think competitive sports aren't fun, you clearly haven't read the article I have about the after-hours Olympic orgy that takes place."
[Olympics] Rob says, "real-time update: what kind of rowing event is this? it's like canoes, one guy per boat, but they're kneeling"
[Olympics] Rob says, "I don't even know what this is, but there are these guys who are competing in the olympics at this whatever it is"
[Olympics] Gunther says, "it's lolcanoe"
[Olympics] Rob says, "I guess they're just calling it canoe"
[Olympics] Rob says, "but it's like lewis&clark canoe"
[Olympics] Fang says, "so, I don't know. I think we here can sniff and say the olympics are too self-important, but to many people in many places, it's their own big chance to get out on the world stage and force America etc to acknowledge them as at least competing on the same literal playing field"
[Olympics] Allen says, "Volcanoe sounds like a Hawaiian bobsled-type event"
[Olympics] Rob says (to boucher), "is there a lot of hooking up and shagging at the olympics? because the thought that there must be floated into my imagination over the weekend"
Ellison arrives from the east.
[Olympics] Fang says, "s/own/one"
[Olympics] Rob says, "all these primely honed bodies bumping around together"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "rob: that's part of the unreported side allegedly, yeah"
Rob says, "Ell"
Ellison says (to vaporware), "happy birthday!"
Ellison says, "hey all"
[housing] Allen says, "it's up to 88 in here"
[Olympics] boucher says, "According to that article, they go through truckloads of condoms.  It's the best worst-kept secret at the Olympics."
[housing] Allen says, "guy left 3 hours ago to find a part for the AC"
[Olympics] zarf says, "I'm not sniffing, I'm saying that that element has gotten crushed by administrative crap"
[Olympics] Rob says, "that would be completely unsuprising in all the ways that adults should see this as an unsurprising natural result"
[housing] Allen says, "this is how people lived in the dark ages, back in 1920"
[Olympics] Rob says, "I wonder if the coaches approve"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "there's probably a term for people who enjoying shagging athletes"
[Olympics] Fang says, "well, it's a lot of young fit sweaty people housed in close proximity"
[Olympics] Rob says, "or if the coaches hand out the condoms"
[Olympics] Rob says, "yeah"
[Olympics] Rob says, "oh yeah groupies too"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "people get excited about them"
[Olympics] Fang says, "all you can hope to do is to keep the STD spread under control"
[Olympics] Rob says, "well they're rock stars for 4 days"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "wiggins was at work the other day"
[Olympics] Rob says, "which wiggins"
[Olympics] Fang asks, "bradley?"
[Olympics] Rob says, "I only know wiley wiggins"
[Olympics] Grocible asks, "you know, the guy who won like medals?"
[Olympics] Rob says, "nope I don't"
[Olympics] Fang says, "UK cyclist"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "of course if you're watching US coverage you probably didn't know that anybody won any medals other than Team USA"
[Olympics] Fang says, "won the tour de france"
[Olympics] Fang says, "Le Gentleman"
[Olympics] Rob says, "yeah it sux"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "British cycling who also won the tour - right"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "a skinny modest looking guy with dorky sideburns"
[channels] Jota says, "Yow. I log in 20 minutes ago, get distracted by doing work, and come back to find thousands of lines of #Olympics scrollback."
[Olympics] Rob says, "the only time to even try to find random other events is on weekday mornings like now where they spread weird events onto various sub-channels"
[channels] Rob says, "my fault"
[channels] Rob says, "I've been saving up like six days of observations and notes"
[Olympics] Steve says, "I read about how there is a distinct class system of people who are at the Olympics and are likely to win medals, and then the people who clearly don't have a chance and are there for fun and getting it on and meeting people, etc"
<BrenBarn> Me, shall I not lie down like him, never again to move?
BrenBarn busta.
[Olympics] Grocible says, ""Wiggins holds two notable achievements: he is the only person to have won the Tour de France and an Olympic gold medal in the same year[3], and the only person to have won a Grand Tour and a gold medal in Olympic track cycling. Wiggins is the most bemedalled British athlete and most successful Olympic cyclist of all-time with seven Olympic medals, which includes four gold medals.""
[Olympics] Rob says, "it's like any kind of business convention"
[Olympics] Steve says, "And the medal contenders are all like, I'm a real Olympian, and these guys are just Olympic tourists"
[channels] Jota says, "Heh."
[Olympics] inky says, "bemedalled"
[Olympics] Rob says, "bimedalled"
Ellison says, "hey BrenBarn"
[Olympics] inky says, "I would have got away with winning the race if it weren't for you bemedalling kids"
[Olympics] Rob says, "herh"
[space] Jota says, "So at least one American was able to stick the landing."
[space] Rob says, "kbang"
[space] Steve says, "Pretty good"
[Olympics] inky says (to Steve), "I guess if you are a Serious Athlete you're going to spend a lot less time at the olympics fucking around and more time stressing and training"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "steve: I'll be there's a similar class system for sports that aren't real sports, like trampolining"
BrenBarn says, "hi"
[Olympics] Rob says, "I'd like to see some olympic trampoline"
[Olympics] Rob says, "I haven't yet seen any"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "or ski dancing"
[Olympics] Rob says, "I only just learned this morning that there was still such a thing"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "I think the only Canadian gold was for trampolining"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "which is characteristically embarrassing"
[Olympics] Rob asks, "also I always wonder for any and all events, how did these people get born, grow up, and end up somehow doing this olympically?"
[news] BrenBarn | Rios, who is facing criminal charges for attempted murder, rape, pimping and pandering, has taken the first step to run for Moreno Valley City Council.
[news] Rob says, "murder, rape, pimping and pandering"
</jmac> jmac has disconnected from ifMUD.
<jmac> jmac has connected to ifMUD.
[news] Rob asks, "what's pandering?"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "well, to learn more you have to watch the montage"
[news] Rob asks, "he goes to israel and pretends to be solemn at the wailing wall and says they have superior culture?"
[Olympics] Steve says, "I do think the amount of hijinx and sex and stuff is comparable to, as someone else said, a business convention or a school band trip, or whenever you get a bunch of people together away from home."
[Olympics] zarf asks, "not 'murdering, raping, pimping, and pandering'?"
[news] BrenBarn says, "I guess it's basically pimping"
[Olympics] zarf says, "lac"
[Olympics] Fang asks (of Rob), "did you see the profiles on London2012?"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "zarf: I think that's about right"
[news] BrenBarn | Procuring or pandering is the facilitation or provision of a prostitute in the arrangement of a sex act with a customer
[Olympics] Rob says (to Steve), "yeah"
[news] inky says, "hmm"
[Olympics] Rob says, "seems normal and even almost healthy from a certain point of view"
[tangent] Gunther says, "hey, today's Jamaica's 50th independence day"
[news] zarf asks, "what's the noun form? pimpery? pimpage?"
[Olympics] Rob says, "said the way obi-wan says to luke 'what I told you was true, from a certain point of view'"
[news] inky says, "pandering is like pimping, but with a panda"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "born the son of a humble crofter, J. Robinson Wheeler never dreamed of becoming an Olympian. Not until his jr high gym teacher saw him showering one afternoon and said to him..."
[news] inky says, "hey baby, you interested in some bamboo"
[news] BrenBarn says, "heh"
[gunnerkrigg] baf asks, "He's going to bring up Jeanne next, isn't he?"
[news] inky | A person who arranges a meeting between a prostitute and a john and who takes a cut of the prostitute.s revenue can be charged with both pimping and pandering. In California, pimping means knowingly receiving compensation from another.s prostitution.
[Olympics] Rob says, "heh heh. the story of a simple crofter's daughter who grew up to become the monarch of the greatest empire television has ever seen"
[news] zarf says, "pimpatry. pimpecism."
[gunnerkrigg] baf asks, "Or is he just going to let Annie make the connection herself?"
[news] inky says, "so I guess it is also illegal to introduce a prostitute so someone else out of the goodness of your heart"
[news] Rob says, "this reminds me of how I don't exactly know what racketeering specifically means"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "no Monty Python reference, no matter how obscure, makes it past his radar!"
[news] Rob says, "or why there's a word for it"
[news] BrenBarn says, "ha ha"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "actually that's not true - I guess i made one the other month"
[Olympics] Rob says, "yeaow"
[Olympics] Rob says, "ghira still stumps me with U Thant"
[Olympics] Grocible asks, "what about U Thant?"
[news] BrenBarn | A racket is an illegal business or scheme, usually run as part of organized crime. Engaging in a racket is called racketeering.
[news] Rob says, "oh is that all"
[news] baf asks, "That's the one where you put on a jetpack and fight Nazis, right?"
[news] Rob says, "takes all the mystery out of life"
[Olympics] Fang says, "this is such a terrible athlete profile, though http://www.london2012.com/athlete/ali-liaqat-1084199/ "
[news] Rob says, "ok so I also have no idea what customs forms want you to list when you travel between countries, and nobody has ever told me, and they don't teach you this in school, it's like you're just supposed to know, but whenever I've been on an international flight, people tell me to just say nothing on the forms, like they don't know either"
[Olympics] Fang asks, "suit and tie, seriously?"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "they need to hire better portrait photographers for a lot of these athletes"
[news] Rob says, "that's one of the last mysteries of life for me"
[Olympics] Grocible says, "many of them look like passport mugshots"
[news] Rob says, "so don't spoil it, I'm keen to guess"
[news] BrenBarn says, "put down if you're transporting any pandas"
[cabal] Grocible says, "speaking of mugshots"
[cabal] Grocible says, "could folks take a look at http://nkguy.com/temp/naomi.jpg "
[cabal] Grocible says, "my sister's headshot"
[cabal] Grocible asks, "could you tell me if her eyes and chin look OK?"
[cabal] Rob says, "a pleasant looking face"
[Olympics] Fang says, "today's birthdays seems an interesting way to verify that maths thing about the number of people sharing a birthday in a room"
[cabal] Rob says, "oh really? well I'm glad I said something spontaneously nice"
[cabal] Grocible says, "well I retouched them"
[cabal] inky says, "they seem fine to me"
[news] baf exclaims, "But then you'd be confessing to panda-ing!"
[cabal] Rob says, "chin looks fine, eyes seem asymmetrical or mismatched in some subliminal way"
[cabal] Grocible says, "the focus is slightly out, but I made major changes to her left chinline and right eye"
[cabal] Grocible says, "her right eye droops a bit"
[cabal] Rob says, "oh it was her left eye that seemed out of kilter relatively"
[cabal] Grocible says, "it's the sort of thing you don't actually notice in person"
[cabal] inky says, "her left eye iris seems a little bigger"
[news] Gunther says (to Rob), "good news, the answer is "it depends""
[cabal] Grocible says, "but in photos she always looks whoah assymetrical"
[cabal] Grocible says, "left eye is untouched"
[cabal] Rob says, "the two eyes have different reflections in the pupils"
[cabal] Grocible says, "left to us"
[cabal] Grocible says, "yeah that's real. I could fix the reflections"
[cabal] Rob says, "so the left eye is darker and seems duller and droopier in some hard to define way"
Emily arrives.
[cabal] Rob says, "yeah fixing the reflections probably will take care of it"
[cabal] Rob says, "to a large extent"
[cabal] Rob says, "this is just instantaneous reaction of course"
[cabal] Grocible says, "okay I've duplicated the reflection and that helps"
[space] Gunther says, " https://twitter.com/MSL_101/status/232500143793004544/photo/1 "
[cabal] Grocible says, "thanks for the observation"
[food] BrenBarn says, "this guy posted his restaurant review from inside the restaurant before his food arrived"
[cabal] Grocible says, "I should've asked her to take her contacts out"
[food] BrenBarn | I am currently at the restaurant awaiting my food. Let me say that the service is by far the worst I have ever had.
[cabal] Grocible says, "they always show in photos"
[food] Gunther says, "hour 7"
[food] inky says, "still not mayor"
Jizaboz says, "Hello Emily"
[food] Gunther says, "ha ha"
[food] Gunther says, "see also the Mars Lander joke"
[food] Gunther says, "(gotta touch down 4 more times)"
[jobs] Matthew says, "So, for those who missed it earlier, I submitted my edit tests today, which are basically the next stage in applying for this new job."
[jobs] Matthew says, "They close the current issue of the PCMDE this week, so I assume they'll want to hire someone soon."
[travel] Bishop says, "Back from wanderings, and MKE has one of the funniest signs I've ever seen at an airport."
[travel] zarf says, "note: not a high bar"
[travel] Bishop says, "Right inside security (in concourse D, at least), they have the usual area with seats and open spaces where people can get their shit back together after the various indignities the TSA has decided to perpetrate upon their person and belongings."
[travel] Bishop says, "This facility is labeled prominently (and presumably not by the TSA) as the 'RECOMBOBULTION AREA'."
[travel] zarf says, "okay, that's good"
[travel] Bishop says, "(I note with a quick google that pretty much every hit for the word 'recombulation' is a reference to these signs, which seem to be at MKE only.)"
[travel] zarf says, "I was just looking"
[travel] zarf says, "o what age of miracles, etc"
[travel] zarf says, "also, 'Recombobulation'"
[travel] zarf says, "'I wish I could see that funny sign' 'Okay here are a dozen photos' 'I wish I could see a photo taken on Mars twenty minutes ago' 'Here you go' 'GODDAMN'"
[travel] Bishop says, "Yeah, and you can do all this with a device that fits in your pocket, too."
[personals] BrenBarn | i like doing fun things like talking to baby dinosaurs in their skeleton form, while holding booze in my hand.
<dfan> By Grabthar's hammer... what a savings.
dfan is a mess, from start to finish, an utter disaster of conception and execution that simply beggars reason.
[travel] BrenBarn asks, "where are the flying cars?"
dfan says, "Good-afternoon"
Rob says, "hey dfan"
Rob says, "how are you"
zarf says, "hello"
dfan says, "O.K."
[personals] Bishop says (to BrenBarn), "Evidently someone's been to one too many 'night at the natural history museum' soirees."
[travel] Rob says, "where's MKE"
[personals] Bishop says, "Milwaukee."
[personals] Bishop says, "ILAC."
[travel] Bishop says, "Milwaukee."
[travel] Rob says, "also laughing at recombolution area"
[travel] BrenBarn says, "I LIMKE AT"
[workplace] ghira says, "Extreme certification exams are way way sillier than Cisco ones. "Why use extreme products? A) they cost more B) they are purple C) the use more power D) Extreme's XOS software". Hmm... let me think..."
[travel] Bishop says, "(which was not even the city I was coming from. Sunday was a day of roundabout routes)"
[travel] Rob says, "what was the original I LIKEM something"
[travel] BrenBarn says, "I LIKEM EAT"
[workplace] Rob says, "I'm going with purple"
Grocible says, "dfan"
[travel] Rob says, "oh yeah! man that's been like 2 years since I heard that"
[workplace] ghira says, "and in real life that's probably it"
[workplace] Bishop says (to ghira), "Oh, I use them because they have spoilers."
[travel] ghira says, "I'd have guessed I LIKEM BOOBS"
[travel] BrenBarn says, "what a sad time that must have been"
zarf says (to dfan), "may I say that that anniversary photo was adorable, so good job, you two"
Rob says, "wha wait I missed anniversary photo"
Rob says, "where is this photo"
[travel] zarf says, " http://instagram.com/p/N97bUlzQqK/ "
[race] lpsmith says, "Mixed-race parents and their twins:  https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/422231_471247332898861_316730241_n.jpg "
Grocible asks, "did it involve a whippet?"
Rob says, "aw yay"
[race] Gunther says, "the left one is all "fffFFFFFUUUU""
[yak] Rob asks, "was it the second north carolina meet where you guys started clicking or the first one?"
[yak] Rob says, "I remember being in a rental car back seat with you two guys in the front and hitting it off very obviously"
[yak] Rob says, "and thinking uh oh where's this going"
[race] Rob says, "huh!"
Grocible says, "I ran into a couple with a shiba inu yesterday"
Grocible says, "I have to say it's a very cute dog"
Grocible says, "it's like a small akita"
[stevejobs] Steve says, "Man, I cannot stand the suspense waiting for people to write me back on stuff"
[race] Rob says, "so I guess that happens"
[race] BrenBarn says, "heh, cute"
[race] Rob says, "my nephew is completely blond and blue-eyed, which makes him stand out among all his half and quarter chinese cousins and aunts and uncles and parents"
[programming] vaporware says, "belated, I think there's also .Single() to validate that .Take(1) only returns one item."
[race] Gunther says, "endless harassment pre-programmed :("
jayellem's the DJ, Penguin's the rapper.
[race] Jota says, "That picture is weird bit cool."
[race] Jota says, "No one will ever believe that they're twins."
[race] Rob says, "those twins and their parents are going to have to deal with a lifetime of sighing and explaining"
[race] BrenBarn says, "well, there are plenty of twins where one is a boy and one is a girl, this doesn't seem that much more startling than that"
[race] Rob says, "you are an enlightened individual brenbarn"
[stevejobs] Steve says, "It's just like an all-day stomachache"
[race] Gunther says (to Jota), "nobody believes my brother and I are brothers, either, and we're not even twins"
[stevejobs] Rob says, "sux"
[race] Rob asks, "what does your brother look like?"
[race] Gunther says, "reddish-blonde, fairer-skinned"
[race] Rob says, "everyone immediately guesses my brother and I are brothers"
[race] Rob says, "reddish-blonde, wow"
[race] Rob says, "does he have different morphology as well"
[race] Gunther says, "yes"
[race] BrenBarn says, "yeah, people don't realize my brother and I are related either"
[race] Rob says, "let's have a photo url"
[race] BrenBarn says, "he has red hair and lots of freckles"
[race] Rob says, "my brother is the only asian looking guy in the little virginia town he lives in"
[race] Rob says, "when I came to visit everyone in town everywhere we went said '!! you *must* be his brother!!!@' as soon as I walked in"
[race] Gunther says (to Rob), " https://picasaweb.google.com/112876605812284255081/2009Spielemesse#5742063481546839074 "
[race] Rob says (to gunther), "!! noway"
[cabal] Grocible says, "okay. cloning the catchlight helps a lot with the symmetry problem"
[cabal] Grocible says, "nkguy.com/temp/naomi.jpg"
[race] Gunther says, "and yet"
[race] Rob says, "he looks like he could be some dude on ifMUD though"
[race] Jota asks, "Who is this guy, and why are you showing us his picture instead of your brother's?"
[cabal] Rob says, "that does look better"
[zarfplan] zarf says, "damn, I like it when math works"
[race] Rob says (to Jota), "hee"
[race] Rob asks, "I've asked this before but, what's your brother's name?"
[race] Gunther says, "Matthias"
[race] Rob says, "mmm yes that is familiar"
[race] Rob says, "I think I've asked two or three times before at least"
[race] Rob asks, "how much do either or both of you look like your parents?"
[race] Gunther says, "he looks like my mom, I look like my dad"
[race] Rob says, "gee I'm not sure I have any urls of what my brother looks like now that I've made gunther pony up"
[race] Rob says, "I was going to guess the other way around, heh"
[cabal] Grocible says, "it's funny how we want things to be symmetrical"
[cabal] Grocible says, "even though nobody is"
[race] Rob asks, "he looks lanky. is he taller than you too?"
[cabal] Rob says, "yeah."
[race] Gunther says, "nope"
[race] Rob says, "huh"
[race] Allen says, "Matthias? That's not a real name. The only time I've encountered that name ni fiction is that mouse in Redwall"
[race] BrenBarn says, "heh"
[race] Jota asks (of Gunther), "Which one of you is the bard?"
[race] BrenBarn says, "no one believes him when he says his brother is a mouse"
[race] Rob says, "heh"
[race] Jota says (to Allen), "He might be foreign."
[race] Gunther says (to Jota), "neither"
[race] Gunther says, "oh, I guess he casually plays guitar, so him"
[mozilla] Rob says, "wait wtf"
[race] Gunther says, "also his kids are slightly less different : http://i.imgur.com/rlnCQ.jpg "
[mozilla] Rob says, "where the w in wtf is 'where' not 'what'"
[race] Allen says, "wow, the blondness"
[mozilla] Rob says, "I've been using an FTP add-on plugin for ages, but I just recently updated firefox to the latest version, after delaying for a year or two, and now the tab-bar is at the top instead of a normal app menu bar"
[mozilla] vimes says, "yeah, there's an option to turn that off"
[mozilla] Rob says, "but the app menu bar is how I accessed the ftp plugin, and I don't see how to load it any more"
[mozilla] BrenBarn says, "yeah, it's their stupid thing"
[mozilla] BrenBarn says, "you can turn it back on"
[mozilla] vimes says, "omg durr hurr we want to be more like chrome"
[race] Jota asks (of Gunther), "So does that make him the good one and you the evil one?"
[mozilla] Rob says, "oh ok"
[mozilla] Rob says, "thanks"
[mozilla] BrenBarn says, "if you go in the menu thing and look for 'toolbars' you can turn on 'menu bar'"
[mozilla] Rob says, "found it"
[race] Allen asks, "what's the Wild Wild West and Anno 1886 signify?"
[mozilla] BrenBarn says, "it's a disgrace"
[mozilla] BrenBarn says, "as chrome is a disgrace"
Grocible says, "hm"
Grocible says, "it's funny how the scroll of the violin lives on"
Grocible says, "though as far as I can tell it serves no particular purpose at all"
[mozilla] Rob says, "wait, still not good. the ftp add-on isn't in the Tools menu any more like it used to be"
[mozilla] Rob says, "I still can't figure out how to launch it"
[mozilla] BrenBarn asks, "maybe it was disabled?"
[mozilla] Rob says, "no, it's there"
[mozilla] BrenBarn says, "sometimes add-ons are disabled if they don't work with your new firefox version"
[mozilla] Rob says, "in faffing around I keep opening the add-ons menu that lets me disable or remove it but doesn't run it"
[race] Gunther says (to Allen), "no idea"
Allen says (to Grocible), "they're easier to make than carved heads http://www.flickr.com/photos/allengarvin/7657438824/in/photostream "
[race] Gunther asks (of Jota), "mmmmmaybe?"
[mozilla] Rob says, "grumble this is why I didn't update firefox for two years, because I didn't want it to break something I use all the time"
Grocible says, "yeah, I've seen heads"
[race] ghira says, "belatedly, no-one can believe my brother and I are brothers, but we are both adopted"
[race] Rob says, "heh"
BrenBarn says, "my violin teacher had a viola with Harrison Ford's face as the scroll"
Allen says (to Grocible), "also http://www.flickr.com/photos/allengarvin/5454719313/in/photostream "
[stevejobs] Steve says, "Rereading the email I sent back to Amazon to make sure I didn't say anything stupid"
[mozilla] BrenBarn says, "that is why I never update it unless absolutely necessary"
[race] ghira says, "and we found out the best way possible"
jayellem goes home.
jayellem has disconnected.
[Olympics] Gunther says, "ughhh stop showing beach volleyball"
[race] Allen says, "people used to claim they could see the resemblance between my dad and me"
Grocible says, "hrm"
[race] ghira says, "on way back from dentist when I was 13 and brother was 11, mother said "ha ha the dentist said 'If I didn't know any better I'd say these children weren't related""
[race] Allen says, "even though I'm adopted, and he was 5'5" and me 6'4", and our facial structures were nothing alike"
[race] ghira says, "we asked why this was funny and she said "well, you're not because you're both adopted""
[race] ghira says, "she claims we already knew but we weren't aware that we did"
Grocible says, "I think scrolls are more attractive than most heads and novelty shapes like that"
[mozilla] K-Y says, "I used to do that, but then realized that I was LIVING A LIE"
[space] Jota says, "I wonder if people who reject the moon landing also reject other space stuff."
[mozilla] BrenBarn says, "now you live a life of truthfulness and pain"
[space] Gunther says, "oh, I bet"
[space] Jota asks, "Like, do they believe in communications satellites? The space station? Mars landers?"
[mozilla] K-Y says, "or rather, letting the developer get away with not doing anything about it"
[space] Jota says, "It seems difficult to reject GPS out of hand."
[space] Gunther says, "like the "travel" to "Mars" takes so "long" because that's how long it takes to make a movie"
[mozilla] BrenBarn asks, "eh?"
[space] BrenBarn says, "ha ha"
<Petrosilius> Petrosilius has connected to ifMUD.
[race] Allen says, "here is me and my dad: http://plover.net/~agarvin/concert.jpg "
[race] Rob says, "oh ok, it has been relocated to Tools>Web Developer>"
[space] Gunther says, "and GPS? That's just Mechanical Turk, given how often it's wrong"
[race] Rob says, "sheesh"
[race] Rob says, "er"
No such channel: 'mozil.a'.
(Current channel set to #tech/software/mozilla)
[race] Gunther asks (of Allen), "whoa, your dad was Christopher Lee?"
[mozilla] Rob says, "oh ok, it has been relocated to Tools>Web Developer>"
Petrosilius arrives from the east.
[race] ghira asks, "are you the one with the long blonde hair?"
[mozilla] Rob says, "buried one more submenu deeper than it used t obe"
Petrosilius exclaims, "Hello MUD!"
Grocible says, "like dragons"
[race] Jota asks, "Wait, how can mechanical Turks identify my location unless they're FOLLOWING ME AROUND?!?"
[race] Jota leaps out the window.
[race] BrenBarn says, "what if these people don't believe turks are real either"
[mozilla] K-Y says, "if nobody is complaining, then either there's nothing wrong or there's nobody using my extension"
[mozilla] Steve says, "I wonder if you can mess with menu settings to put where you want"
[race] Rob says, "wow, a picture of allen's dad"
[race] Gunther says (to Jota), "Please. Turn. If. Possible."
[race] Gunther says, "also we lac"
[mozilla] K-Y says, "'OH WELL'"
[mozilla] BrenBarn says, "oh, you mean the extension developer"
[space] Gunther says, "the #space #race"
[race] Jota says, "Whoops, yes, sorry."
[race] Jota asks, "#space, #race, #embrace, #yourface, what's the difference really?"
[space] Gunther says (to Jota), "they can't follow you inside which is why you have no "GPS" "reception" indoors"
boucher goes home.
</boucher> Bobby, for the thousandth time, it doesn't matter how bleak your eschatology gets, we can't afford a new bike right now.
[robmumble] Rob says, "aghh!!! what?!??!? wait what??!"
<boucher> The honeymooners who bought these were underwhelmed by the taste and heat (partly because of the high expectations set by the fire-breathing lion on the bag)
boucher got needs. HUNAN URGES.
[space] Jota asks, "So they're just hanging around outside the building waiting for me to leave?"
[robmumble] Gunther says, "ok, it's getting hard to imagine you that mumbling it"
[robmumble] Rob says, "my raddial.com/robstuff directory, where I've been putting 10 years worth of random ifmud-type images, is nearly empty"
[robmumble] Rob asks, "what the fuck is going on and where is all my content?"
[robmumble] BrenBarn says, "nooooo"
[robmumble] Jota asks, "Who runs the server?"
[space] Gunther says (to Jota), "I'm pretty sure I've already put more thought into this than any moon deniers, so... sure, why not"
[robmumble] Rob asks, "this is my cloud directory where I have everything so I know it's always there. what the hell is going on?"
[robmumble] BrenBarn says, "ha ha poop.jpg"
[robmumble] Rob says, "is this just because I'm using a different browser or what the eaagh"
[space] Gunther says, "next time you drive, you may notice that one car"
[robmumble] Rob says, "this directory should have 200 things in it"
[robmumble] Rob says, "oh my god, what has happened"
[robmumble] Rob says, "I don't know what recent downloaded version of this directory I have"
[robmumble] Jota asks (of Rob), "Can you log into the server?"
[robmumble] boucher says, "Now you must gather silk from mutant spiders for a living."
[robmumble] Jota says, "It's possible whoever runs the server may have changed some settings so that your files are no longer visible from the web."
[robmumble] Gunther says, "2 of them are"
[robmumble] BrenBarn says, "well, you can still see some files"
[robmumble] BrenBarn says, "I mean, even I can see them"
[robmumble] Jota says (to BrB), "Yes, I was referring to the other ones."
[robmumble] Rob says, "oh whewww I found it"
[robmumble] Rob says, "I don't know why but most of what I was expecting to see is in a different directory"
[robmumble] Jota says, "Oh, heh."
[robmumble] BrenBarn says, "robnonpoopstuff"
[robmumble] boucher says, "When the men come to repossess your data, you can plead with them.  'No, please...take everything else, but...leave me my poop.'"
[robmumble] Rob says, "oh wait now I know why, and it's #i-am-an-idiot territory"
[robmumble] Rob says, "the big directory is called raddial.com/stuff, not raddial.com/robstuff"
[programming] * Petrosilius has joined the channel.
[robmumble] Rob says, "man, panic attack for no reason. blah"
[robmumble] Rob says, "I'm on edge because I'm about to take a trip, and I always freak out before I travel for some reason I don't understand"
[robmumble] Gunther says, "I'm looking at GrogRobBanana.jpg and pretending that a) this is your brother b) whose name is Grog Wheeler"
[robmumble] Rob says, "might be kind of a Rain Man reaction to leaving the safety of habit and routine, or something more insidious"
[robmumble] boucher says, "I have two directories like that.  One is http://bouchert.com/pix/ where things that are vaguely useful tend to be kept, and then I have http://bouchert.com/dumbpics/ where I keep all the things that are stupid.  When I have something that is both useful *and* stupid, I often forget where it's kept."
[robmumble] Rob says, "well that's kind of close. really old childhood friend I think about as a spiritual brother"
[robmumble] Rob says, "yeah"
[robmumble] Rob says, "also I have a secret super secret channel on here called #robstuff that only I am on, that I use in various arcane ways"
[robmumble] Rob says, "one of which is to pre-post things I'm about to bb-post to some public channel, to make sure it looks right"
[robmumble] (from Gunther) Doe throws a shitfit
[jobs] katre says, "what a crappy morning"
[robmumble] Rob says, "whew. anyway"
[jobs] katre says, "after extra special morning childcare drama, got to the office, discovered the new cubicles are tiny and cramped (with a six-foot walkway around them), unpacked, turned on my computer, and the the PSU exploded"
[jobs] katre says, "spent all morning trying to work on my spare machine, a mac mini"
[robmumble] Rob says, "I was looking at this directory to see if I had a picture of my brother in there and it actually seems not"
[jobs] katre says, "just got a replacement in"
[robmumble] Rob says, "let alone a picture of the both of us"
[jobs] Gunther says, "ugh"
Rob says, "ok, time to go"
Rob heads right on out.
</Rob> Find release from your cares. have a good time.
Seeya later.