Logfile from ifmud. ************************************************************************ ** ** ** Welcome to ifMUD! ** ** ** ************************************************************************ FAQ: http://www.allthingsjacq.com/ifMUDfaq/ IP: 66.114.68.227 MONKEY: Ook. If you... have an account Type "connect name password" to log in need an account Go to http://ifmud.port4000.com:4001/ and apply are just visiting Type "connect guest guest" to login as Guest want to see who's on Type "who" for a list of players online have problems Email markm - mark.musante@gmail.com TYPE connect, who, or quit: Login Succeeded ifMUD An interactive real time social network chat bulletin board quotebook url database with a parrot bot Copyright 1997-2007 by Loungent Technologies, a wholly owned subsidiary of rec.[arts|games].int-fiction; All rights reserved. Release 4 / Serial number 990908 / perlMUD v2.1z "The characters were mostly of the cardboard cutout variety. I wanted to punch everyone except the one Scottish guy." --Jearl NOTE: Whenever a fix or enhancement is in place, it will be announced on the channel '#mud-updates'. OTHER NOTE: There is a mailing list where people can say things like "hey, the mud's down, what's up with that?" In fact, since this is the only thing the list is used for, you should join it if you are interested in this subject. To join, go to http://groups.google.com/group/ifmud/ or talk to Steve. Adventurer's Lounge Candles on the wood-panelled walls create a comfortably dark atmosphere. Hand-drawn maps are taped to nearly every surface -- the walls, the ceiling, the trophy case in the corner. Seating is plentiful. A small storage closet is to the north. You can see: new laundry list, Birthday Calendar, magic laundry list, banner reading "Happy birthday Daddo!", Even Newer World Map, charset sampler, Automeeter, TheMasterTheorem player names, time zones, MUD Client Wish List, battle.net battletags, madlibs, Anything Finder, Sarcasm Detector, Gene Ray Players: Alex, markm, Touchy, small, Ryan, GDorn, jpt, Bishop, Dave, Allen, ctmiller, baf, marc, annabianca, Jon, DorianX, Matthew, genericgeekgirl, jess, Otis, Jearl, vimes, Marktwo, Whizzard, Psmith, lpsmith, maga, Grocible, boucher, Hugo, dfan, ghira, Johnny, DavidW, K-Y, Doug, Lucea, borowski, BrenBarn, Ellison, inky, zarf, jenrexrode, zaphod Visible Exits: north, west, southwest, southeast, up, east When he said that, it gave me the ending of my book. No new channels have been created since your last check. Rob wakes up. Recapping 1000 of 4389 lines from recent channels: [urls]/17:57 inky says, "well, obviously all the psychics get snapped up by the NSA" [hardware]|17:58 GDorn says, "biting the $100 bullet. I think this will work and fortunately the two main rooms I'm thinking of wiring have crapet, so I can hide mistakes pretty easily..." [urls]|17:59 inky says, "but like" [urls]|17:59 inky | more frequently they were between Bonnie and her two teenage daughters, squabbles that occasionally escalated to slapping and hair-pulling [politics]|17:59 Allen | "Prior data have shown that math professors are just as pro-Democratic as sociologists. [urls]|18:00 inky says, "which is child abuse" [politics]|18:00 Allen | "That suggests that people who think logically and have been selected for intellect are more convinced by Democrats than Republicans," Westen said. "Perhaps that's not a surprise when you take into consideration that Republicans defy basic math by arguing that you can cut deficits by throwing public employees out of work, which cuts the number of taxpayers (and hence reduces tax revenue)." [urls]|18:00 inky says, "so why aren't there people the daughters are able to talk to outside the house about it" [lounge]|18:00 Tale is fired from breathing. [lounge]|18:00 * Tale has disconnected. [urls]|18:00 inky | As her own two daughters came of age and prepared to escape the fractious family home, Bonnie.s history of loss seemed to manifest itself in rages at her daughters, interspersed with accusations of abandonment. [politics]|18:00 Allen says, "so, mathematically looking at that last statement, public employees must pay more than 100% of their income in taxes" [urls]|18:01 inky says, "and why aren't there people to work with Bonnie to teach her better parenting strategies than what she grew up with" [politics]|18:02 inky says, "I guess Westen is a sociologist" [politics]|18:02 Fang says, "Well, if you assume the taxpayers refered to are those previously mentioned public employees" [politics]|18:02 inky says, "yes" [politics]|18:03 Fang says, "there are certainly economists who agree with that overall statement" [politics]|18:03 inky says, "the economists are republicans" [politics]|18:03 Fang says, "they'd argue that paying those public employees induces an economic activity in the economy in excess of what you've paid them" [politics]|18:04 Fang says, "er, I mean who agree with the negation presented" [urls]|18:05 Jota says (to inky), "I'm sure there *are* people thy could talk to about it." [urls]|18:05 Jota says, "But they don't talk to them about it." [politics]|18:05 Allen says, "the statement makes no implication of that. It says cutting government workers reduces the number of tax revenues by reducing the number of taxpayers" [politics]|18:05 Fang says (to Allen), "so if cutting government workers causes wider unemployment" [politics]|18:05 Fang says, "then the statement is totally correct" [politics]|18:06 Allen says, "bah, whatever dude. I'm just taking the statement at face value" [urls]|18:06 Jota asks, "How are these people supposed to know that Bonnie needs better parenting strategies? And how are they supposed to convince Bonnie to let them tell her how to raise her own kids?" [politics]|18:06 Allen says, "you can torture out whatever hidden meaning was meant, if you want" [urls]|18:06 inky asks, "but is your takeaway there really "12-year-olds are stubborn and don't listen"?" [urls]|18:06 Jota says, "No." [urls]|18:06 Jota says, "I don't have a 'takeaway'." [urls]|18:07 Jota says, "But these situations are complicated." [urls]|18:07 inky says, "yeah" [urls]|18:07 inky says, "I mean, I dunno the whole history here" [urls]|18:08 inky says, "the article says there was a point when the kid shot himself in the foot" [urls]|18:08 inky says, "maybe that should have triggered more of an investigation" [urls]|18:09 Jota | Instead of destroying his foot, the antique rifle backfired, leaving him with an intermittent ringing in one ear. [urls]|18:09 inky asks, "you think that didn't lead to a hospital trip, though?" [urls]|18:09 Jota says, "I don't know. Probably not." [law]|18:09 Allen | Italy Rules 'No Balls' Insult for Men Is a Crime [urls]|18:10 Jota says, "But even if it did, 'kid sneaks parents' gun away, and it backfires, damaging his hearing slightly', doesn't seem like it would automatically indicate child abuse." [urls]|18:11 inky says, "nah" [urls]|18:11 inky says, "but like I said, it should have triggered more of an investigation" [lounge]|18:11 Doug goes home. [lounge]|18:11 zarf walks off through the wall; rich crimson light flares briefly around him. [urls]|18:11 inky says, "and if it uncovered that it was an attempt to shoot himself in the foot, that *is* a pretty serious marker" [urls]|18:12 Jota says, "Investigating every minor injury that happens to a kid would be a tremendous invasion of many people's privacy." [Olympics]|18:12 Allen says, "man" [Olympics]|18:12 Allen | Olympic Badminton Controversy: 8 Women's Doubles Players Disqualified For Throwing Matches [lounge]|18:13 Grocible says, "evening" [Olympics]|18:13 Allen asks, "what if they'd caused a fire?" [Olympics]|18:13 inky says, "this seems like a flaw in the design" [Olympics]|18:13 inky says, "hee hee" [Olympics]|18:13 DavidW asks, "What if they were safety matches?" [urls]|18:13 Jota says, "I mean, I'm sure I got injured a time or two as a kid and had to go to the hospital. But if the government held an investigation each time, I think I -- as a kid -- would have been less and less willing to go to the hospital." [urls]|18:13 inky says, "I never had to go to the hospital myself as a kid so possibly I'm biased" [cabal]|18:14 Grocible says, "hm" [apropos-of-nothing]|18:14 Gunther says, "weirdest Flash bug ever" [urls]|18:14 inky says, "my fiancee and her brother did for various reasons" [apropos-of-nothing]|18:14 Gunther says, "it only plays music, not voice, anymore" [cabal]|18:14 Grocible says, "you know, one of the problems of working for a company like apple" [cabal]|18:14 Grocible says, "founded by this crazy imaginative guy, etc" [cabal]|18:14 Grocible says, "is you get these legions of unimaginative stupid mediocre middle managers" [cabal]|18:14 inky asks, "mandatory turtlenecks?" [cabal]|18:14 inky says, "oh" [cabal]|18:14 Grocible says, "who think their job is to be inspiring visionary leaders!" [cabal]|18:15 Grocible says, "make the impossible happen!" [cabal]|18:15 Grocible says, "no, shithead. you're just managing a sausage factory" [urls]|18:15 Jota asks, "If you had a kid, and he fell while climbing rocks behind your house and had to get stitches, how would you feel if social workers insisted on investigating the details of your home and family life to see if it was somehow your fault?" [urls]|18:15 inky says, "irritated" [urls]|18:16 inky says, "and sure, it can and does happen to excess" [urls]|18:16 Gunther says, "yeah you can usually kinda tell from the frequency and type of injury tho" [urls]|18:16 Jota asks, "Just irritated?" [urls]|18:16 inky says, "it depends what happened afterwards" [urls]|18:17 inky says, "but it doesn't have to be a full-scale interrogate-the-neighbors kind of investigation each time either" [urls]|18:18 Grocible says, "inky would sit, twisting his moustache, and say "I say old chap. This is a little out of order, what?"" [urls]|18:18 inky says, ""hey, how did you get hurt?" "why were you climbing up there?" "was anyone watching you?"" [lounge]|18:18 Gunther, Geoffrey, and Shamino all represented various aspects of Garriott: his ego, his ego, and his ego, respectively [urls]|18:18 inky says, "if the person talking to the kid doesn't get a bad vibe they don't have to follow up, necessarily" [urls]|18:19 vimes says, "man, "why were you climbing up there" would have been a serious shut-up-and-don't-talk-to-this-guy cue for me as a kid" [urls]|18:19 Fang says, "I suppose there could be theoretically a scaled response" [urls]|18:20 Jota says (to inky), "So in this case, if he *had* gone to the hospital becauce of the ringing in his ear, the answers would have been 'I was playing with a gun, and I shouldn't have', 'I dunno, I was curious', and 'Mom was hanging laundry in the backyard'." [urls]|18:20 Fang says, "initially, some kind of statistic about the type and frequency of injury might trigger a red flag" [urls]|18:20 Fang says, "then you talk to the kid" [urls]|18:20 Jota says (to Fang), "I assume such things already exist." [urls]|18:20 Fang says, "then you might launch a deeper investigation" [urls]|18:21 Fang says (to Jota), "oh I suppose, I'm just talking off the top of my head" [urls]|18:21 inky says (to Jota), "yeah, and again, maybe this is regional bias, but the kid having unsupervised access to a rifle sets off more flags" [urls]|18:21 Jota says (to inky), "Mmm. To me, it seems similar to the kid having unsupervised access to the car keys." [Olympics]|18:22 Allen | "I am very happy and give thanks to our Great Leader for giving me the strength to lift this weight. I believe Kim Jong Il gave me the record and all my achievements. It is all because of him," Om said. [urls]|18:22 Fang says, "in the 14 year old's case, an unsecured shotgun seems like a major contributer" [urls]|18:22 inky asks (of Jota), "man, really?" [urls]|18:23 Jota says (to inky), "Well, OK, I guess there's a limit to how many people you can accidentally kill in a short time with a rifle." [urls]|18:23 Grocible asks, "how can kids learn to shoot intruders if they ain't got a gun?" [urls]|18:23 inky says, "uh-hunh" [urls]|18:23 Jota says (to inky), "But still, I don't think cars are an order of magnitude more dangerous." [urls]|18:23 Allen asks, "what about for hunting?" [urls]|18:23 Allen says, "that's far more likely in a rural setting" [urls]|18:24 inky says, "it seems like cars would be more dangerous for hunting because of all the trees" [urls]|18:24 Jota says (to Allen), "They're decent for possum, I hear, but you need to spend a lot of time hanging around deer crossings if you want to hunt anything decent-sized." [urls]|18:24 Fang asks, "what's the driving age in the US?" [urls]|18:24 Jota asks (of Allen), "Wait, are you talking about guns or cars now?" [urls]|18:24 Allen says, "heh, guns" [urls]|18:24 Jota says (to Fang), "16 in most places, I think." [urls]|18:24 inky says, "but actually this is mostly going down the wrong way, I think" [urls]|18:24 Allen says (to Fang), "16 in most states, 15 or 14 with a farm license" [urls]|18:24 inky says, "like, CPS investigation is another after-the-fact tool we have now" [urls]|18:24 Allen says, "when I was young, it was 14 in texas, but got raised to 15" [urls]|18:25 inky | The 14-year-old boy told his mother that he was scared, that all he ever thought about was murder and suicide. [urls]|18:25 inky | [urls]|18:25 inky | .And as soon as I say that, she takes her hand off my back.. Greg, who is now 33, yanked his hand into the air, as if scalded. .She jumps up . .You.re just watching too many movies. . and walks out the room.. [urls]|18:25 Fang says, "I think that if a kid steals their parent's car, then it's unlikely they can get very far, and if they do, it's probably for a quasi-legitimate reason" [urls]|18:25 inky says, "this seems like a case where she would totally be looking for someone to help her deal better with her son" [urls]|18:25 Fang says, "if a kid steals their parent's *gun* however" [urls]|18:25 Grocible says, "I know a guy whose kid stole his car" [urls]|18:25 Grocible says, "drove off" [urls]|18:26 Fang says, "it seems almost inevitable someone's going to get hurt" [urls]|18:26 vimes asks, "they still can't get very far, because have you ever tried to drive a gun?" [urls]|18:26 Grocible says, "crashed it, killed himself and a friend" [urls]|18:26 Grocible says, "not a kid kid, though. like 25 or something" [urls]|18:26 Allen says, "I knew lots of people in junior high and high school that had their own guns or unlimited access to one" [urls]|18:26 Allen says, "one of my friends was casting his own bullets at age 15" [urls]|18:26 Fang asks, "unsupervised access?" [urls]|18:26 Fang says, "jeez" [urls]|18:26 Allen says, "yeah, totally" [urls]|18:26 Grocible says, "that's texas for ya" [urls]|18:26 Fang says, "I'm glad I wasn't at your school" [urls]|18:27 Grocible says, "it's the religion" [urls]|18:27 Allen asks, "what?" [urls]|18:27 Fang says, "I'd be fucking terrified." [urls]|18:27 Allen says, "they weren't allowed in school" [urls]|18:27 Fang says, "piss off the wrong kid? Then bam" [urls]|18:27 Grocible says, "OPPRESSION" [urls]|18:27 Allen asks, "why would you think a thing like that?" [urls]|18:27 Fang says (to Allen), "nevertheless." [urls]|18:28 inky says (to Fang), "well, you'd be armed too" [urls]|18:28 inky says, "so it'd be an even chance" [urls]|18:28 K-Y says, "but then how would law-abiding students stop school shootings, I ask you" [urls]|18:28 Fang says, "I wouldn't trust some of the kids at the schools I've been to with a water balloon." [urls]|18:28 Jota says (to inky), "#belated It might be a situation where she *should* be looking for someone to help her deal better with her son, but that doesn't mean it's likely that she *would* be." [urls]|18:28 Allen says, "hunting is a pretty typical rural activity" [urls]|18:28 Grocible says, "in America it is" [urls]|18:28 inky says (to Jota), "it sounds to me like the article like she alternated between being angry and abusive and being remorseful and lost" [urls]|18:28 Allen says, "also, my friend who was casting his bullets (he's now a doctor)... after graduation he took his girlfriend down some country road" [urls]|18:29 vimes says, "i was casting bullets and reloading at 15, istr" [urls]|18:29 inky says, "er, from the article" [urls]|18:29 Fang says, "I've been threatened by kids wielding iron bars" [urls]|18:29 Allen says, "she thought they were going to make out. But she later told us, no, he took her varmint hunting" [urls]|18:29 inky says, "and it seems like a reasonable chance that in one of the remorseful periods she might talk to someone if they were available" [urls]|18:29 Jota says (to inky), "So, 'I've just abused my kid. I don't know what to do. I know, I'll go confess to an authority figure so I can go to prison!'" [urls]|18:29 Fang says, "and on the way home, the rowdier kids sometimes would try to set the bus on fire" [urls]|18:30 Fang says, "as we were riding in it" [urls]|18:30 Fang says, "now if they had guns, then, holy shit." [headlines]|18:30 Allen says, "nice headline about an alumnus:" [headlines]|18:30 Allen | UT Ex Hooker Shining in Olympic Light [urls]|18:30 Jota says (to inky), "She might talk to a friend or a relative or maybe even a minister, but it's hard to imagine that she'd go talk to a stranger working for the government." [urls]|18:30 inky says (to Jota), "if that is what it was presented as, then yes, I agree it would not be a good idea" [urls]|18:31 Jota says, "If this were a surburban middle class environment, then she might talk to a therapist. But this is obviously not that environment." [urls]|18:31 K-Y says (to inky), "you could say that there might be a culture where people are encouraged to keep domestic problems behind closed doors" [urls]|18:31 inky says, "yeah, I mean, that's clearly the other issue" [urls]|18:31 Jota asks (of Fang), "Wait, you grew up somewhere where kids had unsupervised access to metal and matches?" [urls]|18:31 inky says, "the family was massively isolated" [urls]|18:32 K-Y asks, "do we think that people in suburbia do not keep mounds of these secrets?" [urls]|18:32 Fang asks (of Jota), "are you being sarcastic?" [urls]|18:32 Jota says, "I'm not massively isolated, but I'm pretty sure that 'stranger working for the government' would be pretty darn low on my list of people to go talk to about my personal problems raising a family." [urls]|18:32 Jota says (to Fang), "Yes." [urls]|18:33 inky says (to Jota), "presumably you are imagining a revenooer in a suit jacket" [urls]|18:33 Fang says, "then there is no need for me to respond." [urls]|18:33 Jota says (to inky), "No, I'm imagining a social working." [urls]|18:33 K-Y says, "I think there is a systematic pervasion of 'we do not talk about our issues in this house'" [urls]|18:33 Jota says, "Er, social worker." [urls]|18:33 inky says, "it doesn't even have to be a social worker, though" [urls]|18:34 inky says, "or, I mean, not in the current use of the term" [urls]|18:34 inky says, "like, right now if you give birth in a hospital, a lot of places will hook you up with somebody who you can call if you have problems figuring out how to breast feed" [urls]|18:35 inky says, "and they won't report you to the breastfeeding cops or whatever if you can't get it to work" [urls]|18:35 inky says, "it's just somebody you can call if you have a question or need some different suggestions or want to vent or whatever" [urls]|18:35 Jearl says, "so a couple of points have been made: it's really hard to prevent everything bad happening" [urls]|18:36 K-Y says, "I feel like that wouldn't do much if there is a culture of stifled privacy" [urls]|18:36 Jearl says, "and: people are afraid of minor infractions like self-reporting abuse because they could go to prison" [urls]|18:36 K-Y says, "but it's not like I have any figures for how much people keep to themselves" [urls]|18:36 Jearl asks, "and from the article: what's the point of continuing to punish someone who has been rehabilitated?" [urls]|18:37 Jearl asks, "so maybe stop putting people in prison forever as the first answer to everything?" [urls]|18:37 inky says (to K-Y), "but if they're willing to talk to anyone, that person could potentially call in and get some advice if the original person isn't" [urls]|18:37 Grocible says, "but how will those private prisons stay in business, then/" [urls]|18:37 Jearl says, "not my problem" [urls]|18:37 Jearl says, "they can turn into terrariums" [urls]|18:37 Grocible says, "you socialist!" [urls]|18:37 Jearl says, "sure" [urls]|18:38 Fang asks, "But then you won't be TOUGH ON CRIME?!?" [urls]|18:38 inky says, "in the same way that you can call RAINN or a suicide hotline and talk about other people's abuse or suicide and how to try to help" [urls]|18:38 K-Y says, "it seems people might be irrationally resentful of that" [urls]|18:38 Jearl asks, "could we maybe use sarcasm and irony as coniments instead of the main course, sometimes?" [urls]|18:38 Jearl says, "condiments*" [urls]|18:38 Grocible says, "this is the mud, though" [urls]|18:38 inky says (to K-Y), "I am sure a lot of people would be way more prickly than Jota is being, yeah" [kitties]|18:39 Grocible says, "SHUT UP, CAT!" [urls]|18:39 inky says, "like, there are a lot of people who feel like they have the fundamental right to run their families however they like" [urls]|18:39 Jearl says (to Grocible), "well, it keeps me up at night and sometimes gives me the panics and I wonder if I should just stop" [urls]|18:39 Fang says (to Jearl), "I just think the US hasn't developed a rehabilitation aspect to its justice system" [urls]|18:39 Fang says, "compare the various nordic systems" [urls]|18:39 Fang says, "where that's the main focus" [kitties]|18:39 Grocible asks, "jearl: your cat does too?" [urls]|18:39 Grocible asks, "jearl: your cat does too?" [urls]|18:39 Jearl says (to Fang), "the funny thing is, prison was invented as the gentle alternative to the pillory and lashings" [urls]|18:40 K-Y says, "then there is the other thing where doctors panic over what symptoms they might or might not be legally obliged to report" [urls]|18:40 Jearl says, "but it turned into this black hole where infinite violence is allowed" [kitties]|18:40 Jearl says, "I don't follow" [urls]|18:40 Fang says (to Jearl), "hmm, I do wonder." [urls]|18:40 Grocible says, "wrong channel" [urls]|18:40 Grocible says, "grr" [kitties]|18:40 Grocible says, "wrong channel" [kitties]|18:41 Grocible says, "my cat is mewing" [kitties]|18:41 Grocible says, "and it's bedtime for Jennifer" [urls]|18:41 Fang asks, "black holes of infinite violence?" [kitties]|18:41 Grocible says, "(not you, my Jennifer)" [urls]|18:41 Fang says, "doesn't sound very #kitties" [urls]|18:41 Jearl says, "yeah, I mean, no one cares that nonviolent drug offenders are raped and murdered" [urls]|18:41 Jearl says, "they're in prison! they deserve whatever they get!" [urls]|18:41 Jota says, "This conversation is less interesting than going home is." [lounge]|18:41 Jota turns into a slimy toad! [urls]|18:41 Jearl says, "in fact it's assumed to be part of their sentence" [urls]|18:41 Fang says, "yes" [urls]|18:42 Fang says, "it's fundamentally idiotic that being sent to prison increases your chance of criminality further on" [urls]|18:42 K-Y says, "we had a talk from a local federal judge last year" [urls]|18:43 Jearl says, "exactly, so it's idiotic that sending people to prison makes you TOUGH ON CRIME" [urls]|18:44 Fang says, "but societally, I think the US favours noise and bluster over trying to understand and deal with issues long term" [urls]|18:44 K-Y says, "who has become completely disillusioned over the fact that he is constantly handing out long sentences over trivial crimes" [urls]|18:44 Fang says, "much better to kick the can down the line." [urls]|18:44 K-Y says, "with no discretion whatsoever to shorten said sentences" [cars]|18:46 Allen says, "wow, New Jersey" [cars]|18:46 Allen | Judging from the alarming number of summonses issued so far for failing to buckle up in the back seat, motorists don't seem overly concerned about the current Click It or Ticket crackdown. After all, most unrestrained drivers and passengers can afford a measly $46 fine. [cars]|18:46 Allen | But if you drive with an unrestrained pet, don't expect a slap on the wrist. Penalties range from $250 to $1,000 and as much as six months in jail. [lounge]|18:47 K-Y's apocalyptic flotsam included the emergence of figures of such dazzling dementia as to momentarily mesmerize even thinking people. [cars]|18:47 Allen says, "New Jersey is now the first state with pet seatbelt rules" [cars]|18:47 Allen says, "allowing dogs to hang their head out the window is ticketable as well" [cars]|18:48 inky says, "dang" [urls]|18:48 Fang asks, "what was the statistic? More black men in jail now, than there were slaves?" [cars]|18:48 inky says, "I thought that was a dog constitutional right" [cars]|18:49 Allen | "Dogs and cats become projectiles in a crash." [cars]|18:49 Allen asks, "isn't that true of any non-restrained objects?" [cars]|18:49 Allen asks, "shouldn't we be requiring seat belts for groceries?" [begood]|18:50 Johnny._. [begood]|18:50 Johnny._.5._. [cars]|18:50 Allen says, "ooo, allowing your dog to stick its head out the window is considered animal cruelty under the law" [cars]|18:50 Allen says, "they can be seized and you can be barred from owning any animals if caught" [cars]|18:51 Allen | Martinez cited a 2010 survey conducted by the American Automobile Association that showed 20 percent of those polled admitted to allowing their dogs to sit on their laps while they drive. [cars]|18:51 Allen says, "our poodle would do that on the way to her monthly clipping and toenail painting. She'd put her paws on the steering wheel. Then mom would make a turn and she'd tumble off" [cars]|18:51 Allen says, "then run back" [cars]|18:53 Allen says, "this includes cat carriers. If the carrier isn't buckled down, it's an animal cruelty offense" [cars]|18:54 K-Y says, "how many polled admitted to allowing their dogs to drive" [cars]|18:55 inky says, "only if they'd had a few beers" [lounge]|18:55 Olly arrives in a puff of yellow smoke, which makes them cough. [lounge]|18:55 Johnny says, "Howdy Olly" [lounge]|18:56 Olly says, "Howdy howdy howdy howdy." [lounge]|19:00 Doug has arrived. [lounge]|19:00 Johnny says, "Hi Doug" [lounge]|19:00 Olly says, "Hello, Doug." [lounge]|19:01 Doug waves. [begood]|19:01 Doug asks, "where were you last time?" [begood]|19:02 Olly says, "He was somewhere with another MUD getting lipstick on his collar." [begood]|19:03 Johnny says, "ha ha" [begood]|19:03 Johnny says, "I didn't have dodgy Internet access." [begood]|19:04 Doug says, "me neither!" [begood]|19:05 Johnny says, "Er, I had dodgy, etc. Also, replace dodgy with no." [begood]|19:06 Olly says, "I thought maybe it was dodgy all the time, but at the time in question you didn't have it at all." [begood]|19:08 Johnny says (to Olly), "Right." [begood]|19:09 Doug asks, "are you black ops on assignment in Afghanistan?" [begood]|19:09 Olly says, "He probably wouldn't be allowed to tell us if he were." [begood]|19:10 Johnny says, "To the best of my knowledge, Olly's right." [comics]|19:13 K-Y says, "sigh http://www.abload.de/img/actioncomics12-229fp0.jpg " [comics]|19:14 K-Y says, "(waiting for the Polite Dissent post)" [web-toons]|19:14 Jearl says, " http://kathleenjacques.com/sketchbook/bandvsband " [web-toons]|19:14 Jearl says, "when a new Band vs. Bard comes out I just stare at it for five minutes and then whisper 'hooray'" [web-toons]|19:15 Jearl says, "er, band. not bard" [ollyprattle]|19:15 Olly says, "Newton got beaned with the apple good." [web-toons]|19:15 Jearl says, "Stacey's expression in panel 6 is the best thing" [ollyprattle]|19:16 Olly says, "Sorry, 'by the apple.'" [web-toons]|19:17 K-Y says, "honestly, I was hoping for Bond vs. Bard" [ollyprattle]|19:18 Olly says, "Probably one of the most famous apocryphal scientific anecdotes." [apropos-of-nothing]|19:19 boucher says, "I think I'm going to make a novelty account on YouTube called TysonBoucher2042 and start posting on every lame new music video 'Now *this* is when they used to know what good music was, not like this shit we have today.'" [lounge]|19:19 Fang is told of the death of Christ, and becomes so angry that the brain bursts from his head, and he dies. The blood from the wound baptises him as a Christian, and his soul goes to heaven. [apropos-of-nothing]|19:20 Olly bangs on a hollow tree. [apropos-of-nothing]|19:22 boucher says, "Either that or one called 'herp derp' and just type herp derp herpitty derp so that people wonder if their Herp Derp addon is broken when they can't seem to get the real text to display." [apropos-of-nothing]|19:22 (from K-Y) Gunther says, "why would you post 'herp derp derpy derp'?" [apropos-of-nothing]|19:23 Olly says, "One thing about past music is that it has been winnowed already. Overall only the good stuff has survived." [apropos-of-nothing]|19:23 K-Y says, "dammit, my timing" [apropos-of-nothing]|19:24 Olly asks, "What is Herp Derp?" [ollyprattle]|19:25 Olly sings, "Take me to the place where the white boys dance." [apropos-of-nothing]|19:25 boucher says, "Or I might create one called 'dislikenonsequiturs' where I just type nonsense. I find a video on how to build a chair with 57 dislikes, so I type '57 people named their pet shark Nigel and didn't feed him' and watch as people go mad trying to figure out what I'm referring to in the video." [apropos-of-nothing]|19:26 Olly says, "Heh." [jobs]|19:27 GDorn says, "product mangler has announced that we're going to do our own specific version of Agile for this big project we've been trying to start for 9 months now." [jobs]|19:28 GDorn says, "AFAICT, Agile $company-style is a lot like waterfall, except that we don't get a spec." [jobs]|19:29 Olly asks, "Are they hiring for product manglers?" [comics]|19:29 inky says, "hooray" [ollyprattle]|19:29 inky says, "take me to the place with electric pants" [ollyprattle]|19:29 Olly says, "Hee." [comics]|19:30 inky says, "instead of wearing gloves, superman should just blast his hands with heat rays" [jobs]|19:30 GDorn says, "also, we're going to start having design review meetings, which, AFAICT, are actually requirements gathering meetings. except kept down to maybe one dev, the engineering mangler (who has good intentions but is not capable of pushing back on anything), the president (!) and the product mangler." [comics]|19:30 Johnny asks, "To form supercalluses?" [jobs]|19:30 GDorn says, "so exceptionally productive, I'm sure." [comics]|19:31 inky says, "to kill all the bacteria, I mean" [board-games]|19:31 Doug | ICv2 has posted news of another Quarriors! expansion from WizKids titled Quest of the Qladiator. [board-games]|19:31 Doug says, "Qreat." [ollyprattle]|19:31 Olly asks, "Is 'magler' like 'orkers'?" [ollyprattle]|19:32 Olly says, "mangler" [ollyprattle]|19:32 Olly says, "ilac" [ollyprattle]|19:32 Olly says, "Never mind." [comics]|19:32 K-Y says, "the stupid part is that he immediately rips the gloves anyway to use his fingernail as a scalpel" [comics]|19:35 boucher says, "I've now read every medical text ever. Now...according to this diagram this man is suffering from some sort of...'skin'...covering his body. I didn't see that there on the example picture. Let's start by removing that." [comics]|19:36 inky says, "ha ha" [batman]|19:37 K-Y says, "finally, for the movie-goers http://www.comicsalliance.com/2012/08/01/comics-everybody-the-history-of-bane-explained-comic/ " [lounge]|19:39 inky has been a constant source of support, of nourishment, and also of Lego robots. [lounge]|19:40 inky originally had the name "Legacy," a ponytail and one of those '90s headgear things everybody seemed to have for a while. [lounge]|19:40 inky says, "oops" [lounge]|19:40 Lucea had the olive complexion. [lounge]|19:40 Lucea says, "Hi" [lounge]|19:40 Olly says, "Hello, Lucea." [comics]|19:40 boucher says, "(Actually, I read a singularity novel in which a recently superhuman computer takes its three laws of robotics responsibilities so seriously, and develops so quickly, it decides it needs to quickly build up its resources and stop all human death. And the first thing it finds is a hospital. But it can't understand why people die. So it studies all the medical data if can find. And starts to experiment on a woman dying of cancer and simple old age. But the only example it had to study was a teeneaged girl and it doesn't know what's natural and what's not. So it ends up 'curing her' into an 18-year-old girl.)" [lounge]|19:40 Johnny says, "Hi Lucea" [comics]|19:42 boucher says, "And the old woman is kinda pissed off about this. She'd worked hard to get where she was in life, which was old and dying, and now this godlike computer just comes along and robs her of it." [politics]|19:43 Allen | A Mississippi congressional candidate said that mayors who oppose Chick-fil-A because of CEO Dan Cathy's views on same-sex marriage "need to be introduced to the Second Amendment." [comics]|19:43 K-Y says, "that is a weird book" [politics]|19:43 boucher says, "Yikes." [politics]|19:43 Allen | "The Constitution is very clear. When government restricts and punishes the people for exercising their First Amendment rights, then we are to default to the Second Amendment (right to keep and bear arms). These two mayors need to be introduced to the Second Amendment ASAP." [politics]|19:44 Johnny says, "The Third Amendment is now "hold your breath until you turn blue"." [politics]|19:45 Olly says (to Johnny), "Ha ha." [comics]|19:46 boucher says, "It mixed sadomasochism and futurism in a very peculiar way, certainly." [politics]|19:46 inky says, "the first amendment definitely has something about chicken fingers in there" [comics]|19:46 boucher says, "In a future where everyone is immortal, safe-words aren't really necessary." [politics]|19:47 Olly says, "The government isn't allowed to quarter them in your house." [politics]|19:48 Olly says, "Halving them is ok." [politics]|19:48 boucher says, "Heh" [lounge]|19:49 Jota arrives from the east. [lounge]|19:49 Jota greets. [lounge]|19:49 Olly says, "Hello, Jota." [politics]|19:49 boucher says, "Now I'm randomly reminded of The Simpsons, where the government repossesses Krusty Burger and renames it IRS Burger." [tangent]|19:51 Olly says, "There was an restaurant that opened while I was in high school called Fat Burger." [tangent]|19:52 Olly says, "I never thought that sounded like a name that would be very good for business." [tangent]|19:52 Johnny says, "They just mean you'll get fat if you eat their fatty burgers full of burger fat." [tangent]|19:52 inky says, "it is no heart attack burger" [politics]|19:53 Allen says, "tangent, it's kinda funny how many people think the 1st amendment comes first because it's the most important" [lounge]|19:53 * boucher has disconnected. [lounge]|19:53 * boucher has connected. [politics]|19:53 Allen says, "when in reality, it was the 3rd amendment." [politics]|19:53 Allen says, "the first two simply failed to pass" [politics]|19:53 inky says, "interesting" [politics]|19:53 inky asks, "what were the first two?" [politics]|19:53 Johnny says, "Eagle burgers every Friday." [politics]|19:54 boucher says, "Perhaps if Chick-fil-A is unrightfully sunk by the government, they can be compelled to bail them out and take ownership. Rename it General Chicken. (Both as a cognate of General Motors and Colonel Sanders)" [politics]|19:54 Allen says, "one was a technical apportionment thing, and the other was the one that finally passed in the mid 90s, about congressional pay raises" [politics]|19:54 Allen says, "they were utterly inconsequential" [lounge]|19:54 * Marktwo has disconnected. [lounge]|19:54 * Marktwo has connected. [politics]|19:54 inky says, "wow" [politics]|19:54 Allen | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_proposed_amendments_to_the_United_States_Constitution#Congressional_Apportionment_Amendment [politics]|19:55 boucher says, "I propose we amend the constitution to take next Friday off early." [politics]|19:56 Allen | At the approximate current U.S. population of 310,000,000, this would yield a House of Representatives with 200 to 6,200 members, depending on the district size. [politics]|19:57 Allen says, "well, the congressional pay one would have been relevant at the time" [politics]|19:57 Allen says, "but since it was passed in the 90s, it was after a law had been passed tieing pay to the COLA" [politics]|19:58 Allen says, "the first time Congress voted themselves a pay raise was sometime around 1815. It caused the greatest electoral massacre in US history" [politics]|19:58 Allen says, "it so offended the country that about 80% of congressmen were voted out of office" [politics]|19:59 boucher says, "At some point, when your state has a small army of legislators, you just start settling things by having wars in the congressional chambers." [tangent]|19:59 Olly | March 2, 1939 - Massachusetts ratified the Bill of Rights as part of the Bill of Rights sesquicentennial celebrations. [tangent]|19:59 Olly says, "ilac" [politics]|20:02 boucher says, "I remember reading about how things changed for UK members of parliament" [politics]|20:03 boucher says, "At first, it was entirely or nearly unpaid, and furthermore, elections to the House of Commons was a draft lottery. Many people had their livelihoods ruined by being elected unwillingly." [politics]|20:04 Allen asks, "hmm, is that real?" [lounge]|20:04 Grocible says, "oh dear" [politics]|20:04 boucher says, "Like jury duty, only harsher" [lounge]|20:04 Grocible says, "Patsy Cline had a son" [lounge]|20:04 Grocible says, "named" [lounge]|20:04 Grocible says, "Randy Dick" [politics]|20:07 boucher says, "I think, practically speaking, it was up to the individual locations to decide how to elect someone" [politics]|20:08 boucher says, "But as back then being an MP was sort of like 'Official King Annoyer', few went willingly." [lounge]|20:10 boucher says, "I had a friend, Garland Head, which I thought was vaguely cute as an eccentric name" [lounge]|20:10 boucher says, "Until I met his father, Richard." [lounge]|20:11 boucher says, "He told me it with a level stare that dared me to make a connection and crack a smile." [lounge]|20:11 boucher says, "Eyes straight forward. 'Pleased-to-meet-you, sir.'" [lounge]|20:14 Grocible says, "her daughter was named" [lounge]|20:14 Grocible says, "Julie Dick Fudge" [lounge]|20:14 Grocible says, "according to wikipedia" [tangent]|20:16 boucher says, "He wasn't a very nice guy, but he had an amusing T-shirt." [tangent]|20:17 boucher says, "As a worker at Trojan nuclear power plant, Oregon's first, last, and only nuclear power plant, he had a shirt celebrating its opening, with a nicely painted picture of the plant on its front." [tangent]|20:17 boucher says, "The gag was only revealed when you looked at it in the dark: It was painted in photoluminescent paint." [tangent]|20:19 inky asks, "a different picture?" [tangent]|20:19 boucher says, "No, it just glowed in the dark is all" [tangent]|20:20 boucher says, "Otherwise, it looked very pretty and celebrated a great and safe power plant from which everyone could enjoy the clean energy, etc" [tangent]|20:21 boucher says, "I don't even think I can call it irony that the plant started to suffer safety problems only four years after opening." [tangent]|20:22 boucher says, "And that, in addition to the Columbia River-tainting legacy that is Hanford, never mind what classified operations we" [tangent]|20:22 boucher says, "we'll never know fully about, is why today, in Oregon, nuclear power is banned." [tangent]|20:23 boucher says, "Except for small research reactors and a provision to reexamine the law if appropriate waste storage is allocated." [tangent]|20:23 Grocible says, "I went to university with a guy who grew up in a town at the mouth of the Columbia" [tangent]|20:23 Grocible says, "he used to fish and eat the fish they caught etc" [tangent]|20:23 boucher asks, "Astoria, or the other side?" [tangent]|20:23 Grocible says, "most of his immediate family have health problems" [tangent]|20:23 two-star says, "My dad worked on the WHPPS power plant in Washington. Affectionately known, of course, as 'Whoops!'" [tangent]|20:23 Grocible says, "he has clumps of hair fall out of his beard and head randomly" [tangent]|20:24 Grocible says, "this was back in the day when Hanford would discharge waste straight into the river on a regular basis" [tangent]|20:24 boucher says, "That might have just been 'normal non-radioactive pollution." [tangent]|20:24 boucher says, "There's plenty of that too" [tangent]|20:25 boucher says, "We had our share of fish from the area, but we try to avoid bottom feeders at the very least." [tangent]|20:25 Grocible says, "astoria side I think. cannon beach side" [tangent]|20:26 boucher says, "Ah, Goonies country." [tangent]|20:26 boucher says, "I like the Oregon coast. If only they'd get decent Internet, I think I'd move there." [tangent]|20:26 boucher says, "I wouldn't even mind the salt spray rotting everything away." [tangent]|20:27 inky says, "plus kite capital of the US" [tangent]|20:29 boucher says, "My friend Elios and his fetishism for his old home town of Ocean City, MD might argue you on that." [tangent]|20:29 boucher says, "But yes, we have good kite flying over here." [tangent]|20:30 boucher says, "I do love the wind." [tangent]|20:30 boucher says, "I have a high-intensity fan turned on me in almost every weather, and I once stood outside in a tropical storm with boards flying past my head, with my arms outstretched." [tangent]|20:32 boucher says, "O'Kay has even learned how to like the fan." [tangent]|20:33 boucher says, "But then she would, as it's like getting one long continuous pet" [tangent]|20:33 boucher says, "(Insert longcat pun here)" [lounge]|20:35 Grocible says, "commodore 64 is 30" [lounge]|20:35 Allen says, "damn deflation" [lounge]|20:37 boucher says, "Wait until it gets to be 40 or 50 and hits midlife crisis mode, driving around in shiny FastLoad cartridges and picking up computers half its age." [lounge]|20:38 Emily arrives. [lounge]|20:41 Grocible says, "em" [lounge]|20:43 boucher says, "I often say I got more sunshine and fresh air playing outside by playing videogames on the C-64 than any other computer." [lounge]|20:44 boucher says, "'Okay, start Skate or Die. Got it? Is it loading? Okay, let's go.'" [lounge]|20:45 boucher says, "I think I used actual cassette systems that were faster than the 1541." [lounge]|20:46 Grocible says, "god the 1541" [lounge]|20:48 boucher says, "Heh, #wikipedia: 'This style of drive had the popular nickname "Toaster Drive", because it required the use of a knife or other thin object to pry out the stuck media just like a piece of toast stuck in a real toaster (though this is inadvisable with real toasters).'" [lounge]|20:48 boucher says, "THANKS WIKIPEDIA. I learned all I ever needed to know about toast from random computer articles on Wikipedia." [lounge]|20:49 boucher says, "I don't think it's terribly advisable with floppy drives for that matter. Maybe not fatally, but who knows." [lounge]|20:49 boucher says, "I had to disassemble endless external drives on Macs because they made it entirely too easy to shove two disks in" [copyright]|20:49 Allen | He now has 114,000 followers and regularly tweets about the nature of freedom in the internet world and the vexatious advances of the United States Department of Justice. On other occasions he has posted photos of him and his co-accused riding Segways around the mansion's manicured lawns or promoting his burgeoning music career. [lounge]|20:50 two-star took 30,500 buckets -- why? [copyright]|20:51 Allen | Unfortunately for Dotcom, born in Germany as Kim Schmitz, others have latched on to his persona to create fake accounts including @KimDotcomTruths, @KimDotComFree and @KimDotComPR. In a final attempt to have his screen name authenticated, he told Twitter in a follow-up Tweet, "Hey ... it's really me. Please certify my account and disable the imposter." [headlines]|20:51 Allen | Man Who Lost Hand to Gator Is Charged With Unlawful Feeding [jobs]|20:52 GDorn says, "5% raise and a bonus, which I'm not supposed to tell my orkers about because several of them may not have gotten one and also profit sharing bonuses are out in favor of merit bonuses." [jobs]|20:52 GDorn says, "dammit." [headlines]|20:52 Allen | Wildlife officials were, amazingly, able to track and kill the alligator and retrieve the hand, but doctors were unable to reattach it. [jobs]|20:52 Allen says, "cool" [jobs]|20:53 Allen says, "this is totally like the time I got a whole turkey at thanksgiving as a bonus, which had a note not to tell anyone or discuss it. Except, later I did, and found two other coworkers got nothing more than a potted plant as a bonus" [jobs]|20:53 Allen says, "also, one Jewish coworker got a honey smoked ham" [headlines]|20:55 Allen | According to the Commission's website, alligators are more dangerous, and in fact it says "[t]here has never been a documented bite on a person by an American crocodile." Maybe, but please note the word documented in that sentence. [jobs]|20:57 GDorn says, "I'm grilling the two orkers I've worked with the most in the last year and telling them outright what I got." [jobs]|20:58 GDorn says, "I'm a commie pinko but I sorta feel like this should be common knowledge, not uber secret rumor fodder" [politics]|21:00 Allen | 17 And on the fifth day Govt made an official Govt holiday, and headed off for a 3-day golf weekend at Camp David. But first Govt said to the economy, "you are free to eat from any tree in the garden, except the tree of Knowledge. There is a serpent in that thing, and thy health care does not cover it." [jobs]|21:01 Allen says, "egad, that's like shouting fire in a crowded theater" [jobs]|21:01 Allen says, "you anarchist, you" [politics]|21:01 Allen | 19 Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the balanced, publicly-funded birds the Lord Govt had made to sing news to the economy. The serpent was on the AM band. He said to the retail sector, "Did Govt really say, `You must not eat from any tree in the garden'? " [lounge]|21:04 Olly stops daydreaming. [ollyprattle]|21:04 Olly says, "Strawberries are bigger than raspberries, but raspberries have bigger seeds." [ollyprattle]|21:04 Olly says, "I suppose that strawberry plants are smaller, though." [ollyprattle]|21:05 Olly says, "Also, raspberries don't store or travel well at all." [ollyprattle]|21:09 Olly says, "I read somewhere that some people who keep kosher don't eat broccoli because it has so many crannies that it isn't possible to ensure that there are not insects still hiding in it when it is cooked. I think raspberries might have been another thing that those people don't eat." [maga-fu]|21:10 maga says, "so yesterday I discovered I didn't have HIV, today I discovered I don't have syphilis" [maga-fu]|21:10 maga says, "I am anti-collecting the whole set, it would appear" [maga-fu]|21:11 Olly says, "Good work." [ollyprattle]|21:12 Olly says, "There is a proverb about insects in your food that my grandmother is fond of. Something like, 'better a spider in your soup than no meat at all.' She says it in German, though." [lounge]|21:13 Limax falls slowly headfirst out of the ceiling, then proceeds to walk across the ceiling and down the wall to the floor. [lounge]|21:13 Olly says, "Hello, Limax." [lounge]|21:13 Limax says, "Hello" [jobs]|21:14 Limax says, "Wow... things are moving very quickly" [jobs]|21:14 Limax says, "I talked to the manager in Huntsville today" [jobs]|21:14 Limax says, "She told me that although the req said that relocation was not negotiable, that it now was" [jobs]|21:15 Olly says, "That sounds positive." [jobs]|21:15 Limax says, "They'll have to change the req, but that" [jobs]|21:15 Limax says, "that's after I accept the position" [jobs]|21:15 Limax says, "She wanted me to submit on the req today so that she could line up a phone interview" [jobs]|21:16 Limax says, "With my crazy travel schedule, that's all that could be done right now" [jobs]|21:16 Limax says, "And then if I was still interested, they will bring me down to Huntsville to show me what it's like" [jobs]|21:16 Limax says, "So, I may up going to Hunstville in between trips to Boston" [jobs]|21:17 Allen asks, "oof, that sucks. What felony have you convicted of?" [jobs]|21:17 Limax says, "Joblessnes in the Bay Area" [jobs]|21:19 Limax says (to Allen), "Unlike you, I can't pick and choose my job and wait for an opportunity to come along, I have to go where the job is" [jobs]|21:21 Allen says (to Limax), "that was just a ref to Huntsville, TX, not Huntsville AL which I assume you mean. Huntsville TX is the site of the largest prison system in TX. It's the largest employer by far. It's where more felons end up than in any other place in TX" [jobs]|21:21 Allen says, "I hope you don't mean huntsville tx, which is an incredibly depressing town" [jobs]|21:21 Olly says, "Doesn't Allen have to be where the sys is in order to admin it." [jobs]|21:21 Limax says, "No. Alabama." [jobs]|21:21 Olly asks, "?" [jobs]|21:22 Allen says, "all the major highways around it have actual state warning signs to not pick up hitchhikers" [lounge]|21:22 * Marktwo has disconnected. [lounge]|21:22 * Marktwo has connected. [begood]|21:22 Johnny says, "WTF even is this." [lounge]|21:22 * boucher has disconnected. [lounge]|21:22 * boucher has connected. [jobs]|21:22 Limax says, "There's a stretch like that in Nevada as well" [begood]|21:22 Johnny says, "I'm backing up my Yahoo email with Zimbra. It's about a quarter done." [begood]|21:22 Limax says, "I'm glad I got to see you" [begood]|21:22 Johnny says, "Hi Limax" [jobs]|21:22 Olly says, "Warm Springs, Montana has almost nothing in it except the state mental hospital." [jobs]|21:22 Olly says, "That's kind of depressing, too." [jobs]|21:23 Limax says, "Yeah" [jobs]|21:23 Limax says, "My town used to have two saitariums" [jobs]|21:23 Limax says, "One for TB and one for mental patients" [jobs]|21:23 Allen asks, "for TB?" [jobs]|21:23 Allen asks, "are you a timetraveler from the 1930s?" [jobs]|21:23 Limax says, "Turbuculosis (sp?)" [jobs]|21:24 Limax says, "No... but we had one here just the same. And some of the buildings still exist" [jobs]|21:24 Allen says, "oh, used to have" [lounge]|21:24 Ellison has appeared in three Bigfoot/Abominable Snowman-themed movies: Bigfoot: The Unforgettable Encounter, Little Bigfoot and Abominable. [lounge]|21:25 Ellison says, "re" [Limax's-Life]|21:26 Limax says, "My sister just texted me... and all she said was '37 years'" [Limax's-Life]|21:26 Limax says, "It took me three guesses to figure out what she meant... only because my arithmetic is shitty" [Limax's-Life]|21:27 Limax says, "I had it as 1985, not 1975" [lounge]|21:27 jess snaps out of it and unidles. [Limax's-Life]|21:27 Allen says, "37 is the most frequent number chosen when people are asked to guess a number between 1 and 100" [Limax's-Life]|21:27 Limax says, "Hu" [Limax's-Life]|21:27 Limax says, "h" [Limax's-Life]|21:27 Limax says, "It turns out that we moved into our new house 37 years ago today... the one my father built" [music]|21:28 K-Y says (to Grocible), " http://soundcloud.com/nettwerkmusicgroup/delerium-monarch-album-version " [lounge]|21:30 borowski is now in glorious EGA! [lounge]|21:30 Olly says, "Hello, ouroboroski." [Limax's-Life]|21:30 inky asks, "won't anyone speak up for 73?" [lounge]|21:30 borowski says, "Hey Olly, everybody" [lounge]|21:30 Olly says, "Happy after birthday." [Limax's-Life]|21:31 Limax says, "37... 73.... opposites and yet prime" [lounge]|21:31 borowski says, "Thanks!" [lounge]|21:32 Johnny says, "Hey Ellison and borowski" [lounge]|21:32 Johnny says, "Almost said bowowski" [lounge]|21:33 Limax says, "Woof" [lounge]|21:33 borowski says, "I respond to bow-bow-owski ." [Limax's-Life]|21:33 jess asks, "Opposite Prime? Wasn't that one of those knockoff Transformer toys?" [music]|21:34 K-Y says, "honestly this is a fine surprise" [music]|21:34 K-Y says, "ooo, the entire single is $2.00" [music]|21:34 K-Y says, "er, $2.99" [ollyprattle]|21:35 borowski says, "That's an interesting saying." [lounge]|21:41 BrenBarn busta. [lounge]|21:41 Limax says, "Hello BrenBarn" [lounge]|21:41 Olly exclaims, "Busta busta busta!" [lounge]|21:42 BrenBarn says, "howdy" [lounge]|21:42 borowski says, "Hi BB" [lounge]|21:43 Ellison says (to borowski), "happy birthday!" [lounge]|21:43 Ellison says, "and hey BrenBarn" [begood]|21:44 Johnny says, "Free Yahoo! mail is worse than the mob." [begood]|21:44 Johnny says, "The Italian mob from films." [begood]|21:45 Ellison asks, "why would you use Yahoo! mail, anyway? do you have low self-esteem, Johnny?" [begood]|21:45 borowski says, "Aww" [begood]|21:45 Johnny says (to Ellison), "I was young and I needed the email." [lounge]|21:46 BrenBarn says, "we got new furniture at Kumon, I went in to help rearrange everything" [lounge]|21:46 BrenBarn says, "then boss took us for dinner at the fiesta mercado" [begood]|21:46 Ellison says, "ah yes, the e-mailer with a heart of gold. a more tragic tale was never told." [lounge]|21:47 BrenBarn says, "tasty tacos, tamales, and churro" [lounge]|21:47 BrenBarn says, "a satisfying afternoon" [lounge]|21:47 Ellison says, "too bad they weren't t'churros" [amazon]|21:47 K-Y says, "so I guess Amazon has updated their downloader to reflect their deal with the record labels" [amazon]|21:47 K-Y says, "I note that now you can only authorize up to 10 devices to download your music" [lounge]|21:48 BrenBarn says, "heh" [lounge]|21:48 BrenBarn asks, "is that like a turducken?" [music]|21:48 Allen says, "why can't I buy this album? This is lovely: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KO4IAXjaDR4 " [lounge]|21:48 Limax says, "I thought maybe it had extra tobasco" [music]|21:49 Allen says, "a catholic mass based on Janequin's "battle" tune" [begood]|21:49 Johnny says, "It's inching towards half." [amazon]|21:55 Ellison says, "and the free version of their player only allows 250 uploaded songs not-bought-from-them (previously, it was much more)" [lounge]|21:57 inky says, "ok off" [lounge]|21:57 inky has been a constant source of support, of nourishment, and also of Lego robots. [music]|21:58 Allen says, "here's the entire mass! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6OWk6a97Wc " [ollyprattle]|21:59 Olly says, "I got a bunch of free DVDs yesterday." [music]|21:59 boucher asks, "Christ, (literally). An hour-long mass hymn?" [music]|22:00 boucher says, "This is why I'm *not* Catholic" [music]|22:00 Olly says, "Or Orthodox." [ollyprattle]|22:00 borowski asks, "Any good ones?" [music]|22:00 Olly says, "Orthodox are also in to long services, only you are supposed to stand up." [ollyprattle]|22:01 boucher asks, "Got a friend at a DVD warehouse?" [lounge]|22:01 jenrexrode has entered the lounge. [ Your score has gone up by 10 points ] [music]|22:01 Olly says, "They were on the free table in my building. I don't know where they came from." [lounge]|22:01 jenrexrode says, "hi" [music]|22:01 Olly says, "ilac (argh)" [ollyprattle]|22:01 Olly says, "They were on the free table in my building. I don't know where they came from." [lounge]|22:02 borowski says, "Hey JRR" [ollyprattle]|22:02 boucher says, "Tangentially #videogames, I remember I once said, in an offhand sort of way, 'I'd never get an Xbox...too expensive and I'm not sure there are any good games for it.'" [lounge]|22:02 Olly says, "Hello, jenrexrode." [ollyprattle]|22:02 boucher says, "He happened to work for Microsoft" [ollyprattle]|22:02 boucher says, "He said, 'Get an Xbox and I'll send you every single game out right now.'" [lounge]|22:02 Johnny says, "Hi jen" [ollyprattle]|22:03 boucher says, "So I went to Compusa and got an Xbox, and a few days later a box appeared on my doorstep with two dozen games inside." [ollyprattle]|22:03 Olly says (to ouroboroski), "I only took the ones I thought I might want to watch." [ollyprattle]|22:03 borowski says, "Nice." [ollyprattle]|22:03 Olly says (to boucher), "Wow." [ollyprattle]|22:04 boucher says, "I still have copies of games I'll probably never play." [ollyprattle]|22:04 boucher says, "But it was cool of him." [ollyprattle]|22:05 boucher says, "He's coy, and he still says that he might retire, but he is definitely working with partners on the next Xbox" [lounge]|22:05 Limax says, "Off" [lounge]|22:05 Limax walks slowly out of the room and into the sunset. [ollyprattle]|22:05 boucher says, "So there's one planned, even if he's not willing to show any cards." [ollyprattle]|22:06 boucher says, "He's the same friend I mentioned before who, at one time worked on Vista." [ollyprattle]|22:06 Johnny asks, "Is it actually called the 720?" [ollyprattle]|22:06 Olly asks, "What does he think about the poor reception?" [music]|22:06 Allen asks, "what's weird about an hour-long mass?" [ollyprattle]|22:07 boucher says, "Was pissed off that his bosses overrode him and forced his team to make it worse in deference to Intel's garbage graphics chips." [music]|22:07 Allen says, "I've fallen out of the habbit now, but for a while, every sunday I'd listen to a full mass (from my mp3 collection)" [lounge]|22:07 Ellison goes southwest to play with toys. [ollyprattle]|22:07 boucher says, "Ended up requesting a transfer from GM of Windows Development to Manager of Xbox Partner Relations" [ollyprattle]|22:08 boucher says, "So now he's jetting off to yell at Epic because their next gent engine doesn't run well on the '720'" [music]|22:08 Allen says, "in actual performance, it would have lasted a lot longer" [language]|22:08 Jota says, " http://www.freelang.net/mag/quiz02.php is an interesting test." [ollyprattle]|22:08 boucher says, "gen*" [music]|22:08 Allen says, "because the choral sections would have been interspersed with readings from scripture, in Latin" [language]|22:08 Jota says, "Of whether you can recognize foreign languages by what they sound like." [language]|22:08 Jota says, "(I scored 86%, which is actually better than I expected.)" [ollyprattle]|22:08 boucher says, "He won't tell me what the real name is" [music]|22:08 Allen says, "along with plainsong prefacing every polyphonic section" [lounge]|22:09 Ellison arrives from the Toyshop, pursued by a Stomper 4x4. [ollyprattle]|22:09 boucher says, "I feel a certain degree of pride at knowing powerful people, even if I'm not one myself." [ollyprattle]|22:10 Allen asks, "the kinda people with giant swords strapped to their back?" [lounge]|22:10 Gerynar enters the lounge but is facing the wrong way. After a couple minutes of staring at the wall, he turns around. [ollyprattle]|22:10 boucher says, "In some metaphorical way, yeayh." [ollyprattle]|22:10 boucher says, "yeah" [ollyprattle]|22:11 boucher says, "But he's tired of the jet-set live" [ollyprattle]|22:11 boucher says, "Grr...typos all the time" [ollyprattle]|22:11 boucher says, "l i f e" [ollyprattle]|22:11 boucher says, "There" [lounge]|22:11 Johnny says, "Hey Gerynar" [lounge]|22:11 Gerynar says, "Howdy" [ollyprattle]|22:12 boucher says, "I sometimes think maybe I should just let they typo tally rest and whatever will be will sfgsgknj[oer" [ollyprattle]|22:13 boucher says, "People usually understand me, at least after a bit of consultation with the dictionary and a period of reflection." [lounge]|22:13 Ellison says, "yes, hello, Gerynar" [lounge]|22:14 Gerynar says, "Howdy" [lounge]|22:14 Gerynar asks, "How goes it?" [language]|22:15 BrenBarn says, "I got 93%" [begood]|22:15 Johnny says, "423 emails from Papa John's." [begood]|22:15 Gerynar asks, "do you order that much pizza?" [begood]|22:15 Ellison says, "4/23 is St. George's Day" [begood]|22:15 Ellison asks, "were you feeding a dragon?" [language]|22:15 Jota says, "Well done." [begood]|22:15 borowski says, "Or got that many coupons." [language]|22:16 BrenBarn says, "some of the files have poor audio quality" [lounge]|22:16 Ellison says (to Gerynar), "I cannot be stopped, when it comes to writing my Hugo blog. I cannot be started, when it comes to working on my games." [language]|22:17 Jota asks (of BrB), "Also, was it just me, or did 14 sound she was telling you how to operate your seat belt and find the exit in case of a water landing?" [language]|22:17 Jota says, "Yeah, that is true. I suspect they probably asked their readers to volunteer to do recordings." [language]|22:17 BrenBarn says, "heh" [lounge]|22:17 nm's seven minutes of terror begin. [lounge]|22:17 nm says, "hi" [lounge]|22:18 jenrexrode says, "hi nm" [language]|22:18 BrenBarn says, "the multiple choice thing really helps though" [lounge]|22:18 Ellison says, "hey nm" [language]|22:18 BrenBarn says, "I remember seeing one quiz like this where you just had to type in the answer" [language]|22:18 Olly says, "I missed two." [language]|22:20 Jota says, "I am getting progressively less pleased with my 86." [language]|22:20 Olly give Jota a cookie. [language]|22:20 boucher says, "May I brag? 100%" [language]|22:20 Jota says, "Wow." [language]|22:20 Olly exclaims, "Yay!" [language]|22:21 Jota says, "That's pretty impressive." [language]|22:21 Gerynar is wondering what everyone's talkin' about [language]|22:21 Jota says (to Gerynar), "Recap for URL." [language]|22:21 Gerynar says, "I wanted to be lazy (goes off to recap)" [language]|22:21 boucher says, "When I was little, my parents asked me any book I wanted to purchase from the store...any one. The one about the puppy dog who lost his bone. The Dr. Seuss book. I asked for the book on Serbo-croatian" [language]|22:22 Jota says, "Excellent." [kitties]|22:22 Jota says, "It's always deeply silly-looking when a cat forgets to put its tongue back in its mouth." [kitties]|22:23 borowski says, "Aw." [kitties]|22:23 borowski says, "I don't know why the cat can't tell its tongue is out." [lounge]|22:25 Gerynar is having some 'puter issues and decides to reboot [lounge]|22:25 Gerynar says "bloop" and shrinks down into a little dot, then winks out...just like those old-fashioned B&w televisions. [lounge]|22:25 * Gerynar has disconnected. [lounge]|22:29 Olly says, "I'm going to watch a movie. I might come back later, or not." [lounge]|22:29 Olly says, "Ciao, MUDniks." [lounge]|22:29 Olly takes a plastic hamster ball from their pocket, steps into it, and rolls away. [food]|22:30 Allen says, "woo, just ran to whole foods for a late night snack, and they had a few bags of cherries left at $2.99 a pound!" [food]|22:30 Allen says, "I got 3 pounds" [language]|22:31 Johnny says, "At least one of these I've only gotten right because of public radio station IDs." [language]|22:33 Allen says, "this thing doesn't work in my browser" [language]|22:33 Allen says, "I can't figure out any way to make it play the things" [language]|22:33 Johnny says, "You download the mp3s." [language]|22:33 Allen says, "even with noscript 'allow all'" [language]|22:34 Allen asks (of Johnny), "where?" [language]|22:34 boucher says, "No, just DL Mp3 archive" [language]|22:34 Allen says, "oh, I had to reload it, and then it gave me a link" [language]|22:35 Johnny says, "wget -c http://www.freelang.net/mag/quiz02_mp3/quiz_us.zip " [language]|22:35 Allen says, "once you click 'show all questions', that disappears" [language]|22:35 boucher says, "Ah" [language]|22:36 jenrexrode says, "I only got 11 right :(" [kitties]|22:36 boucher says, "But it provides an endless supply of 'derp' meme images." [language]|22:38 Allen says, "ha, got the esparanto one right. I just guessed because it sounded like a romantic language, not greek, and I didn't even know what the first language was" [Olympics]|22:39 jenrexrode asks, "hm, hand soccer?" [Olympics]|22:39 nm says, "that sounds like a euphemism for something" [Olympics]|22:40 jenrexrode asks, "even with olympic context?" [Olympics]|22:40 jenrexrode says, "i guess it's hand ball" [Olympics]|22:40 nm asks, "does 'Olympic tongue hockey' sound like that?" [Olympics]|22:41 jenrexrode says, "well if hand is a dirty word, I can't win" [Olympics]|22:42 jenrexrode says, "I thought handball was like raquetball with no rackets" [maga-fu]|22:42 maga says, "I have been prescribed oatmeal baths. I feel like some dreadful Dickensian invalid." [maga-fu]|22:42 maga says, "on the other hand, oatmeal baths: quite pleasant" [language]|22:42 Allen says, "bah, 66% :(" [language]|22:42 jenrexrode says, "oww" [language]|22:42 Allen says, "I got the european ones right" [language]|22:42 Gerynar says, "86%" [language]|22:43 jenrexrode says, "my 11/15 = 83%" [language]|22:43 Allen asks, "wait, wouldn't 11/15 be under 80?" [language]|22:44 jenrexrode says, "i'm only quoting the game" [language]|22:44 Allen says, "I guess it's not a math test" [language]|22:45 jenrexrode asks, "maybe it gave me credit for guessing the 2nd time?" [maga-fu]|22:45 maga says, "on the other other hand, they are a pain to clean up after" [lounge]|22:45 Emily goes home. [lounge]|22:45 * Emily has disconnected. [language]|22:46 Gerynar says, "yes, it calculates correct answers out of the number of guesses you make (I got 50% on the first question)" [language]|22:46 Allen says, "ok, this Capital cities of the world quiz sucks" [language]|22:46 Allen says, "it says I got the first answer wrong because I capitalized White House (the correct answer is 'white House'" [language]|22:46 jenrexrode says, "lAME" [language]|22:47 Allen says, "gah, I got the second one wrong because I typed Chartres instead of Chartre" [language]|22:47 Allen says, "which isn't even a capital" [language]|22:47 Allen says, "I just recognized the cathedral" [language]|22:48 Allen asks, "wouldn't notre dame be a more accurate cathedral?" [maga-fu]|22:49 borowski asks, "What is the oatmeal bath for? Not having syphilis?" [begood]|22:49 Johnny says, "Huh, the French Construct site wrote about inklewriter." [maga-fu]|22:49 Allen asks, "is this a Tara Carreon thing?" [begood]|22:50 Johnny | Cette application web vous donne la possibilité de créer une histoire web interactive à la façon des livres dont vous êtes le héro. Vous pouvez créer différentes parties ponctuées de choix paramétrables, il y a même un système de conditions qui permet par exemple d’afficher un certain texte si on en a lu un certain autre. [maga-fu]|22:50 maga says, "guttate psoriasis, also known as 'sudden random outbreak of sores everywhere'" [maga-fu]|22:50 borowski says, "eeh" [maga-fu]|22:50 borowski says, "eek" [maga-fu]|22:51 borowski says, "Hope you feel better." [begood]|22:51 jenrexrode says, "I can almost read that" [maga-fu]|22:51 Allen says, "I don't recall that in the list of physical ailments in the DM guide" [begood]|22:51 Gerynar says, "arf blargle zous effette" [begood]|22:52 borowski says, "Yeah, I was thinking the same thing." [begood]|22:52 jenrexrode asks, "interactive web story?" [begood]|22:53 borowski says, "As far as almost being able to read it." [begood]|22:53 Johnny says, "inklewriter lets you make these hypertext things." [begood]|22:58 Johnny says, "It's technology that shouldn't be in the hands of the French, frankly (ha ha)." [lounge]|23:01 inky originally had the name "Legacy," a ponytail and one of those '90s headgear things everybody seemed to have for a while. [lounge]|23:01 Jota turns into a slimy toad! [lounge]|23:01 jenrexrode exclaims, "speaking of inkles, it's inky!" [lounge]|23:02 Johnny says, "Hi inky" [lounge]|23:03 Emily arrives. [lounge]|23:03 inky says, "I wouldn't have an inkling" [lounge]|23:04 nm says, "hello inky, Emily" [lounge]|23:04 maga says, "inky, Emily" [lounge]|23:04 jenrexrode says, "heh" [language]|23:06 boucher says, "Yeah, belatedly, I have all these shortcuts in my mind, just like I expressed for electronics. That Eastern Europeans palatalize to keep their phonemes from shorting out." [language]|23:06 boucher says, "And so on." [lounge]|23:07 Emily says, "hey" [food]|23:08 Allen asks, "huh, Chick Fil-A is closed on sundays?" [food]|23:08 inky says, "yep" [food]|23:08 Gerynar says, "yup" [lounge]|23:08 borowski says, "Hey recent people" [food]|23:08 Allen says, "I had no idea. That's crazy" [food]|23:08 Allen says, "sunday is when baptists want fried chicken, more than any other day of the week." [food]|23:08 borowski says, "We can't buy booze on Sunday in the south, let alone chicken." [food]|23:08 inky says, "ha ah" [food]|23:08 Allen says, "I grew up baptist. I know" [food]|23:08 jenrexrode says, "yeah, they'd be the only store in the mall closed on Sundays" [food]|23:09 BrenBarn says, "they say god rested on the 7th day, but they don't mention how he got some friend chicken to eat while he took it easy" [food]|23:09 BrenBarn says, "er, fried" [food]|23:09 jenrexrode says, "heh" [food]|23:09 Allen says, "they're just driving their business to KFC... or Church's!" [food]|23:09 inky says, "he was friends with the chickens" [food]|23:09 Allen says, "Church's chicken sounds more religious anyway" [food]|23:09 inky says, "and the boy who shoots the mittens" [food]|23:10 jenrexrode says, "church's is definitely more heavenly than chik-fil-a" [cabal]|23:10 Emily says, "my brother has moved back to town after many years in Minneapolis and before that in college" [food]|23:10 Johnny asks, "Is Popeye's dead?" [food]|23:10 inky says, "I've never actually been to a chick-fil-a" [food]|23:10 inky asks, "should I be imagining basically KFC-quality food, or something better?" [cabal]|23:10 inky says, "man" [food]|23:10 jenrexrode says, "got Popeye's here." [food]|23:10 Allen says, "I've gotten breakfast at chik-fil-a 3 or 4 times in my life" [food]|23:10 Johnny asks (of inky), "Have you had waffle fries?" [cabal]|23:10 inky asks, "how long has it been? eight years?" [food]|23:10 Allen says, "there used to be one across from my apartment" [lounge]|23:10 zarf walks in through the wall. Behind him, light shines briefly through, deep blue this time of day. [food]|23:10 borowski says, "I remember it being standard fast food quality." [cabal]|23:11 Emily says, "hm, I forget when he left for college" [lounge]|23:11 Johnny says, "Hey zarf" [food]|23:11 Allen says, "I 've only eaten at one a couple times outside of that" [food]|23:11 inky says (to Johnny), "not made from real waffles" [food]|23:11 Allen says, "I don't get the appeal" [food]|23:11 Ellison says, "I've never eaten there, either. not sure we have them here." [cabal]|23:11 Emily says, "if I remember right he graduated shortly after I finished my PhD, though, which would mean 2005, I guess. so sevenish" [food]|23:11 jenrexrode asks, "it's all boneless, right?" [food]|23:11 inky says, "I don't think we have them in washington either, yeah" [food]|23:11 Gerynar says, "I like Chick-Fil-A sandwiches better than McDonalds/Burger King/etc..." [food]|23:11 Allen says, "the only breakfast appeal was they have cheap biscuits and orange juice" [food]|23:11 BrenBarn says, "a chick-fil-a is slated to replace a burger king here pretty soon" [food]|23:12 Gerynar says, "their new chocolate chip cookies are great" [food]|23:12 Allen asks, "McDonalds/Burger King have sandwiches?" [cabal]|23:12 Emily says, "and then college before that" [food]|23:12 BrenBarn says, "the BK just closed and I guess the chick-fil-a will open soon" [cabal]|23:12 Emily says, "...is that even right? I can't freaking remember at this point" [food]|23:12 Allen says, "(apart from burgers, which I guess are sandwiches)" [cabal]|23:12 inky says, "oh, more than I thought" [cabal]|23:12 Emily says, "maybe 2006" [food]|23:12 BrenBarn says, "they have some kind of chicken sandwich" [cabal]|23:12 inky says, "but over a decade out of the city" [cabal]|23:12 Emily says, "yeah" [food]|23:12 Gerynar says, "well, they've got stuff between buns ... and McDonalds also has a sandwich with a bun between buns" [cabal]|23:12 inky asks, "is he staying with your folks?" [cabal]|23:13 Emily says, "yeah, though he has asked permission to hang out at my and Sarah's place a lot for obvious reasons" [cabal]|23:13 inky says, "heh" [cabal]|23:13 Emily says, "but we don't have enough space to house him full-time really" [food]|23:13 BrenBarn says, "it's been quite a while since I ate at a big chain fast food place" [food]|23:13 jenrexrode says, "been nearly 6 hours for me" [food]|23:13 inky says, "what about your donut store, eh" [food]|23:14 Allen says, "I get subway occasionally. There's one in my building" [food]|23:14 jenrexrode says, "well, if you consider Taco Cabana a big chain" [food]|23:14 inky says, "does subway count as fast food? I guess it does" [food]|23:14 Allen says, "oh, taco cabana rocks" [food]|23:14 jenrexrode says, "which I guess it isn't" [food]|23:14 Allen says, "but only when you eat in the restaurant itself" [food]|23:14 BrenBarn says, "heh" [food]|23:14 Allen says, "because then you get to totally load up at their fresh salsa bar" [food]|23:14 BrenBarn says, "actually the donut store is a chain, but it's an odd 'headless' chain" [food]|23:14 inky says, "plus, woooo cabana" [food]|23:15 inky asks, "headless?" [food]|23:15 jenrexrode says, "nah, I at it at my desk" [food]|23:15 Allen says, "when I was in austin in the late 80s, Taco Cabana was the greatest thing ever" [food]|23:15 BrenBarn says, "like, the chain has no central organization" [food]|23:15 inky says, "oh, hunh" [food]|23:15 BrenBarn says, "apparently it only exists as some dude in an office who licenses the name or something" [food]|23:15 BrenBarn says, "it used to be more widespread" [food]|23:15 inky says, "that is like kennedy fried chicken in new york" [food]|23:15 Allen says, "they were open 24 hours a day. You could go there are 2 am, and buy 4 flour tortillas for a buck" [food]|23:15 Allen says, "and then, you totally load up those tortillas at their salsa bar" [food]|23:16 jenrexrode says, "heh heh, I've never done that" [food]|23:16 jenrexrode asks, "pico taco?" [food]|23:16 borowski says, "Huh, Kennedy Friend Chicken? That sounds vaguely familiar." [food]|23:16 Allen says, "and then, after the tortillas are eaten, you eat more salsa like soup" [food]|23:16 BrenBarn | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spudnut_Shops [food]|23:16 Allen says, "all while listening to incredibly loud conjunto piped over the stereo system" [food]|23:16 Allen says (to jenrexrode), "they have very good flour tortillas!" [food]|23:17 inky says, "ha ha, spudnut" [food]|23:17 Allen says, "I will say I think Taco cabana has the best flour tortillas in Dallas" [food]|23:17 Allen says, "they're fresh and warm and tasty" [food]|23:17 jenrexrode says (to Allen), "yeah, and then with your dinner you get 2 extra defective ones :)" [food]|23:17 inky says, "you didn't say these were potato donuts, that changes everything" [food]|23:18 BrenBarn says, "heh" [food]|23:18 Allen says, "corn tortillas, naw. There are lots of far better corn tortillas dealers. I like the corn tortilla factory at the very low end of McKinney Ave" [food]|23:18 BrenBarn says, "all your plans are thrown askew" [food]|23:18 jenrexrode says, "it's like they sort them, and all the normal shaped ones go with the tacos, and then you get 2 odd shaped ones in the foil." [food]|23:18 Allen says, "you get a dozen fresh-made for $3" [food]|23:18 BrenBarn says, "I'm not really sure how the spudnuts deal works now" [food]|23:18 Gerynar would like to have someplace in Indianapolis with good any-tex-mex food [food]|23:18 Allen says, "but taco cabana has the best flour ones, ever" [food]|23:19 BrenBarn says, "the site seems to indicate that the remaining stores were just 'remaining' ones left over, but it's more than that, because two new ones have opened up here in town since I was a kid" [food]|23:19 Allen says, "now I'm considering driving a quarter mile to taco cabana." [food]|23:19 jenrexrode says, "yum" [Olympics]|23:20 jenrexrode exclaims, "this guys is NOT literally getting steam rolled in the table tennis match!" [food]|23:20 Allen says, "taco cabana has excellent salsas. Their salsa verde is pretty darn good" [food]|23:20 Allen says, "the pico is usually fresh and tasty" [Olympics]|23:20 jenrexrode says, "maybe I'll make a quesadilla with the leftover pico" [food]|23:20 Johnny asks, "de gallo?" [Olympics]|23:20 jenrexrode says, "oops" [food]|23:20 Allen says (to Johnny), "yeah" [food]|23:21 jenrexrode says, "yeah, pico de gallo" [food]|23:21 Johnny says, "Pollo-fil-a" [food]|23:21 Allen says (to Johnny), " http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kL5f0np7EU " [Olympics]|23:21 borowski says, "mmm steam rolled quesadilla" [food]|23:21 Allen says, "(and to everyone else)" [food]|23:21 jenrexrode says, "what's really good is El Pollo Rico" [food]|23:22 jenrexrode says, "and the salsa verde there is awesome" [food]|23:24 Allen says, "aw, crud, I'm too sleepy tto go" [Olympics]|23:28 jenrexrode exclaims, "oh no, badminton misconduct controversy!" [lounge]|23:28 nm goes home. [lounge]|23:28 Emily goes home. [lounge]|23:28 * Emily has disconnected. [Olympics]|23:34 jenrexrode says, "shuttle cock" [lounge]|23:37 nm's seven minutes of terror begin. [lounge]|23:37 nm says, "hi" [lounge]|23:38 jenrexrode says, "re nnm" [lounge]|23:38 nm is willing to take a stand for the Godly values we espouse by simply showing up and eating at ifMUD on Wednesday, August 1 [Olympics]|23:39 borowski says, "So many shuttle cock jokes during badminton week in high school gym." [Olympics]|23:39 borowski says, "It was one of my favorite sports." [food]|23:40 jenrexrode says, "heh" [food]|23:40 jenrexrode says, "oops" [Olympics]|23:40 jenrexrode says, "heh" [lounge]|23:41 Johnny says, "Hey nm" [Olympics]|23:42 borowski says, "I've tried tennis but badminton is like the slower motion version for less athletic types." [Olympics]|23:42 borowski says, "Though I'm sure it's different at the Olympic level." [food]|23:42 Johnny asks, "Also, what's with just one pickle slice on the Chick-fil-a-wiches?" [food]|23:43 Johnny says, "*cheap cheap*" [Olympics]|23:43 jenrexrode says, "well it depends on whether you choose the fast shuttlecock or the slow shuttlecock" [lounge]|23:43 jenrexrode wanders off. [Olympics]|23:44 jenrexrode says, "they said they're using the number 2 shuttle cock in this match" [lounge]|23:44 jenrexrode has entered the lounge. [ Your score has gone up by 10 points ] [food]|23:45 Allen says, "back from taco cabana!" [food]|23:45 Allen says, "guess I haven't been there in a while. They totally changed up their menu" [food]|23:45 nm says, "they do that every decade or so" [food]|23:45 (from Johnny) Allen says, "I have a dozen flower tortillas." [food]|23:46 Allen says, "the salsa bar was still exactly the same" [food]|23:46 nm says, "I love 'em, I guess" [food]|23:46 Allen says, "grr, I ordered extra tortillas but there aren't any" [lounge]|23:46 zaphod emerges. [lounge]|23:46 zaphod says, "Blammo!" [lounge]|23:47 zaphod says, "Er, I mean, hi." [lounge]|23:47 Johnny says, "Hi zaphod" [lounge]|23:47 Allen says, "that's what the Aurora shooter said" [lounge]|23:47 borowski says, "Hey zaphod" [lounge]|23:48 Johnny asks (of Allen), "What kind of shooter yells laundry detergent names?" [lounge]|23:48 zaphod asks, "Is there really a laundry detergent called Blammo?" [lounge]|23:48 borowski says, "I thought they made Frisbees." [lounge]|23:50 Johnny says (to borowski), "That's Wham(something)" [food]|23:51 Johnny says (to zaphod), "Apparently not" [food]|23:52 Johnny says, "ilal" [lounge]|23:55 Ellison says, "whammo" [lounge]|23:55 Ellison says, "oh, I see Johnny was joking" [news]|23:56 nm says, "Pepper spray cop no longer with UC" [lounge]|23:56 Johnny says, "Honestly, I was thinking WhamCo or Whammy, but I knew it wasn't those." [news]|23:57 BrenBarn says, "nice" [news]|23:57 BrenBarn says, "is he now a paid consultant for the pepper spray manufacturer" [news]|23:58 nm says, "I can see him going into the boardroom with the executives from the company lined up ..." [news]|23:58 nm says, "and ... pzhsssst ..." [news]|23:58 BrenBarn says, "heh" [lounge]|23:58 Rob comes right on in. [news]|23:59 BrenBarn says, "then he's like 'I felt confined, my seat wasn't near the door'" [lounge]|23:59 Johnny says, "Hi Robbo" [news]|23:59 Ellison says (to nm), "ha ha" [lounge]|23:59 Ellison says, "hey Rob" [lounge]|23:59 Rob says, "glrblm\" [lounge]|00:00 K-Y says, "Rob" [lounge]|00:01 boucher asks, "What is the fashion term for an unfolded collar. 'Clean'?" [drawing]|00:01 Rob says, "blurgh, I've already basically inked this page twice, I don't really feel like doing it again" [lounge]|00:01 Johnny asks, "A flipped up collar?" [lounge]|00:01 boucher says, "The sort a priest sports" [drawing]|00:01 Rob says, "but it'll look nine times better than how it used to look so I guess it'll be worth it" [lounge]|00:01 boucher says, "Straight and crisp" [drawing]|00:01 Rob says, "I guess I'll wait until tomorrow to do it so I feel fresher about it" [lounge]|00:02 boucher says, "On their shirt, not the band itself" [drawing]|00:02 K-Y says, "hmm" [lounge]|00:02 nm says, "popped" [drawing]|00:02 K-Y says, "yeah, don't go over the same thing three times in a day" [lounge]|00:02 nm says, "also, g'night" [lounge]|00:02 nm goes home. [drawing]|00:03 K-Y says, "but if you know something's off..." [lounge]|00:03 boucher says, "But a popped collar is one that is meant to be folded, but has failed to be for style reasons" [drawing]|00:03 Rob says, "yep" [drawing]|00:04 Rob says, "I had to admit I wasn't satisfied" [lounge]|00:04 boucher says, "I mean a collar style that pretty much goes straight up the neck and ends" [drawing]|00:04 Rob says, "and that each stage made it look better" [food]|00:04 jenrexrode exclaims, "quesadilla success!" [lounge]|00:04 BrenBarn | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clerical_collar [drawing]|00:04 Rob says, "first there was the thumbnail version, which was kind of all over the map. so I cleaned that up. then I cleaned it up some more, then printed it as pencils to ink over" [drawing]|00:05 K-Y says, "I too have been cleaning up" [drawing]|00:05 Rob says, "then I frowned at what I had though it had some good points" [drawing]|00:06 Rob says, "then I flipped it over on a light table and did solid blacks on the back of the page, so I didn't obliterate the linework. realized the page looked better mirror-flipped anyway" [lounge]|00:06 boucher says, "Well, as I said, I was wondering about the particular shirt style, not just the collar itself" [lounge]|00:06 boucher says, "I think 'clean' is the closest I've come" [drawing]|00:06 Rob says, "scanned both versions and smushed them together and made digital fixes on proportions, then also realized the last panel looked better flipped back to its original version" [lounge]|00:06 boucher says, "And I will explain on #bouching, as this is cluttering the lounge" [drawing]|00:06 K-Y says, "wow" [drawing]|00:06 Rob says, "then printed it as pencils again, which is what I now have to ink all over again" [drawing]|00:06 Rob says, "but the pencils look like proper good pencils after all that" [lounge]|00:06 Psmith says, "the Wikipedia 'Collar' article calls it a 'standing' collar." [drawing]|00:07 Rob says, "it'd be nice if I could draw them that way the first time out but I sometimes have to go through this refinement process to get there" [Olympics]|00:07 jenrexrode says, "so 4 teams were sent home for cheating" [drawing]|00:07 Rob says, "someday I should put up the scans showing the process of developing this page" [drawing]|00:07 K-Y says, "yeah, that is quite a process" [Olympics]|00:08 borowski says, "Dang" [drawing]|00:08 K-Y says, "my process has been turning into 'scribble a lot on the first layer, then erase around what I want to keep'" [drawing]|00:09 Rob says, "that's not bad as a process" [drawing]|00:09 K-Y says, "sometimes surprising things appear out of all the scribbling" [drawing]|00:09 Rob says, "I use the eraser to remove rather than a brush to add when I'm coloring things" [drawing]|00:10 K-Y says, "speaking of which, I have reached stage 2 with this http://smallwhitehouse.org/gallery2/v/k-y/2012-07-30.jpg.html " [drawing]|00:10 Rob says, "I find it somehow easier to subtract colors sometimes" [drawing]|00:10 Rob says, "oh excellent" [drawing]|00:10 Rob says, "looking a lot snappier. like it's something coming into focus" [drawing]|00:11 K-Y says, "at some point I realized that I needed to expand the page boundaries again" [drawing]|00:11 K-Y says, "this is the thing that keeps messing me up on paper, so I will gladly claim my endless digital page borders" [drawing]|00:13 K-Y says, "also, this has been split into two layers with a layer mask in order to force working out the overlapping parts" [shopping]|00:13 jenrexrode says, "My friend was telling me about how great Cool Sheets are for your bed" [drawing]|00:14 K-Y says, "all the tools, they are in play" [drawing]|00:14 Rob says, "nice" [robmumble]|00:15 Rob says, "agh, I started throwing a load of laundry into the machine" [robmumble]|00:15 BrenBarn says, "YOU FOOL" [robmumble]|00:15 Rob says, "and my suit pants that are dry-clean only were all wrinkled up in there instead of hanging in the closet like I thought" [robmumble]|00:15 Rob says, "I think I mixed them up with this pair of dockers I have or something" [robmumble]|00:15 jenrexrode says, "uh oh" [robmumble]|00:15 Rob says, "I have no idea how I chucked them into the hamper" [robmumble]|00:16 Rob says, "now I need to go get them pressed because they look terrible and sad" [robmumble]|00:16 jenrexrode asks, "so now you have some tiny pants?" [robmumble]|00:16 Rob says, "but at least I didn't wash them in the machine and ruin them forever" [robmumble]|00:16 jenrexrode says, "oh" [robmumble]|00:16 boucher says, "Wow, I" [robmumble]|00:16 Rob says, "no I caught them just as I was putting them in" [robmumble]|00:16 boucher says, "Er. wow, I'm sad." [robmumble]|00:17 boucher says, "My only thought is, 'Man, I wish I were the sort of person who needed to care if his pants were pressed.'" [robmumble]|00:17 boucher says, "Or maybe not." [robmumble]|00:17 Rob says, "well I took to wearing suit jackets everywhere a few years ago and they came with pants" [robmumble]|00:17 jenrexrode says, "i'm more like 'don't give me that dry clean only crap, meet the washer'" [robmumble]|00:17 Rob says, "I almost never wear the pants that go with the jackets" [robmumble]|00:18 boucher says, "Maybe it's all 'Hahaha...I'm the guy in rumpled week-old stained pants and you're the guy who has to care!'" [robmumble]|00:18 jenrexrode says, "and then whatever it is winds up all mangled" [webapps]|00:18 Dave asks, "is there a decent cms web host?" [webapps]|00:18 inky asks, "wordpress?" [robmumble]|00:18 Rob says, "mangled and a different size" [webapps]|00:18 Dave asks, "is wordpress capable of doing a full site or is it really just for blogs?" [robmumble]|00:18 jenrexrode says, "and kinda crooked" [webapps]|00:18 Rob says, "it can do a kind of full site" [robmumble]|00:19 Rob says, "a little extra twist" [robmumble]|00:19 jenrexrode says, "yeah" [webapps]|00:19 inky says, "well, I see, like, http://vip.wordpress.com/2010/04/04/pixopoint-wordpress-com-full-site/ " [webapps]|00:20 BrenBarn says, "people have used it for full sites" [webapps]|00:20 inky says, "fools and varlets" [webapps]|00:20 BrenBarn says, "the brave and the foolish!" [webapps]|00:20 BrenBarn says, "wordpress is so insane" [webapps]|00:21 BrenBarn says, "I was just trying to fiddle with it yesterday to do something for my blog" [webapps]|00:21 BrenBarn says, "it's just nuts" [webapps]|00:21 inky says, "wait, I thought your blog was a custom thing" [robmumble]|00:21 jenrexrode says, "but that reminds me, I need to do a load of contrasting colors" [webapps]|00:21 inky asks, "is it a custom wordpress skin?" [webapps]|00:21 BrenBarn says, "it's --- yeah" [webapps]|00:21 BrenBarn says, "I mean, it's a very basic wordpress theme that is designed to be customized with CSS" [webapps]|00:21 BrenBarn says, "so then I customized it" [webapps]|00:23 Johnny says, "cuss'tomized" [robmumble]|00:23 inky says, "ha ha" [webapps]|00:25 BrenBarn says, "speaking of which, I just did another post to my blog" [webapps]|00:25 BrenBarn says, "about useful Scrabble words" [comics]|00:25 K-Y says, "you know, there is a point where you can't just make up words anymore http://www.abload.de/img/4ohxor.jpg " [lounge]|00:25 Rob wakes up. Recapped 1000 of 4389 lines from recent channels. Current time: Thursday, 2 Aug 2012, 12:25:16 AM EDT There is one new message on #misc/personal/begood. Rob says, "swappo" Ellison says, "heh" [webapps] Rob says, "the qman site is wordpress" [comics] zarf says, "that's pretty cool actually." [comics] inky says, "ha ha" [comics] inky says, "yeah, I am down with this" [comics] zarf says, "goin' all Picasso for the fifth dimension" [comics] Rob says, "I wonder if the artist knew those were going to be the words added on top of the drwings" [comics] Rob says, "actually I'm a little annoyed because I had a qman idea lurking in the back of my mind that was a little like this" [comics] Rob says, "clearly I should put my gibberish training to use writing mxyzptlk stories" [grammar] Allen says, "this is a cute post: http://missedperiodsandothergrammarscares.blogspot.com/2012/07/the-blind-feeling-wife.html " [grammar] Allen | My mom sounded kind of disgusted when she told me, and I remember thinking that it did sound like a super boring game. But for some reason it stuck with me, and then at some point when I was older, it hit me: those adults were dabbling in some light swinging. (And that my parents are total prudes!) [comics] Rob says, "those were two separate thoughts. my qman idea had nothing to do with writing gibberish words" [grammar] Allen | Feel is an interesting verb. It swings both ways. Sometimes it's an action verb and sometimes it's a linking verb. [grammar] inky says, "heh blog title" [comics] K-Y says, "ha ha" [drawing] Rob says, "the other thing about this re-re-redone page is that I'm introducing a new character, and I'm aware of that phenomenon where the first time you draw someone they look really weird compared to how they look when you've drawn them fifty times and they smooth out and settle in" [drawing] Rob says, "I had this thought that I should go ahead and practice drawing the new character a whole tedious bunch of times and *then* draw this page, but I didn't have the time or gumption to do it" [drawing] Rob says, "so I settled for just redoing it enough to feel like it was a better first impression" [grammar] jenrexrode asks, "so naughty blind man's bluff?" [grammar] jenrexrode | In yet another version, It feels the face of the person tagged and attempts to identify the person, and only if the person is correctly identified does the person become It. [drawing] K-Y says, "oh, yes, that" [drawing] K-Y says, "*sob*" [drawing] Rob says, "the first appearances of zeke and talbot and allegra and number one and number two are all kind of strange and overly detailed and differently shaped" [drawing] Rob says, "actually there's a continuity error with zeke that only I seem to have noticed. you first see the back of his head, and he seems to have a bunch of stringy greasy hair, then from then on he has a crew-cut" [drawing] inky says, "maybe somebody told him to shape up" [drawing] Rob says, "talbot's beard has gotten longer and longer and longer" [drawing] K-Y says, "on the other hand, that's every character" [drawing] Rob says, "also he used to wear glasses" [drawing] K-Y says, "like Superman, or Cerebus, or Rocket Raccoon" [drawing] Rob says, "heh yeah" [drawing] Allen looks at other links from that picture [drawing] Allen | http://smallwhitehouse.org/gallery2/v/k-y/2012-03-09.jpg.html [drawing] Rob says, "dave sim eventually went back and tried to retro-explain continuity with the original look, by having cerebus sneeze and his snout extends to its original length for an issue" [drawing] Allen says, "wow, ditch the hat, and add a couple cat ears, and that'd be a great drawing" [drawing] Allen says, "I'm a total sucker for babes in glasses and cat ears" Petrosilius has connected to ifMUD. [drawing] inky says (to Rob), "ha ha" Petrosilius arrives from the east. Petrosilius says, "Hey all." [drawing] K-Y asks, "so, anime?" [drawing] Rob says, "sexy cat librarian" Ellison says, "hey Petro" [drawing] Allen says (to Rob), "exactly!" [drawing] Rob says, "you could send K-Y a few bux and have him customize the drawing for you" [drawing] Allen says, "if she's got a viol between her legs, even better" [drawing] Rob says, "hee hee" [music] Allen says (to Rob), "oh! you were asking what a violone was!" [music] Rob says, "hm yeah" [music] inky says, "ha ha" [music] Allen says, "oddly enough, the day after you asked that, I had a chance to play one" [music] Allen | http://www.flickr.com/photos/allengarvin/7683724614/in/photostream [music] Rob says, "was this when you were talking about the dude who made excellent viols" [music] inky says, "it's the little-known singular form of viola" [music] Rob says, "also a tasty pasta" [drawing] K-Y says, "my first furry commission over the internet" [music] Allen says, "it's just an 8' G violone. The 16' D violones are the big ones" [drawing] K-Y says, "it will be glorious" [music] Rob says, "lookit you all distinguished and grizzled and/or hey I didn't know george lucas could play the violone" [music] Rob says, "you look so chuffed" [anime] jenrexrode | Gintama episode with cat-eared girl http://www.crunchyroll.com/gintama/episode-34-love-doesnt-require-a-manual-510114 [anime] Rob says, "blah, ad first" [music] Allen says, "I was the only one in the class with big enough hands to play it like an ordinary viol" [music] Rob says, "excellent" [music] Allen says, "or, big enough reach" [music] inky says, "you know what they say about men with big hands" [music] Rob says, "how did people play them back in the day? I always think of older generations as tinier humans" [music] Allen says, "it was a great class. We'd play through a piece. Then, everyone would switch instruments and parts" [music] Rob says, "they can eat entire pickle jars" [music] inky says, "hee hee" [music] Allen says, "oh, 1-3, probably. First finger and 3rd finger" [music] Allen says, "and shift" [music] Rob says, "they can reach way down to the bottom for that last gherkin" [music] Allen says, "it was only around 1650-1680 that overspun strings were invented... gut strings wrapped in copper or silver" [anime] jenrexrode says, "it goes on for a whole episode, but you get the idea in 3 minutes" [music] Allen says, "that allowed relatively short string lengths to sound much lower in pitch" [music] Rob says, "wow, I didn't know they went back that far" [music] Allen says, "once you get to 1650, string lengths short dramatically shortening for bass instruments" [music] Rob says, "like guitar strings today" [music] Rob asks, "hm because it makes them vibrate differently?" [music] Allen says, "before that, you had to have string lengths more than a meter to sound below a bottom C" [music] Rob says, "or does the actual coiled up extra length do something" [music] Allen says, "yeah. The metal-overspun gives them more mass" [music] Rob asks, "wow so who invented that?" [music] Allen says, "so they can vibrate with a shorter length" [music] Allen says, "it's not known" [music] Rob says, "huh" [music] Allen says, "there are some anecdotal mentions of particular peo[ple" [music] Rob says, "maybe it was one of those things where two or three guys independently hit on the same notion at the same time" [music] Allen says, "yeah. It was technology that allowed wire to be produced in consistently thin gauges" [robmumble] Rob says, "cousin's wedding one week from today" [robmumble] Rob says, "it's going to be weird taking two trips in one month" ghira wakes Rob says, "mornin ghira" ghira says, "robble" [music] Allen says, "that allowed string makers to experiment, but the technology pre-dated the use in instrument strings" [robmumble] inky says, "Rob Wheeler, jet-setter" [robmumble] Rob says, "yeah and flyin in style" [robmumble] Rob says, "due to some quirk of wednesday flights being low capacity, my dad's frequent flyer mileage bought me a first class ticket on the way out" [robmumble] jenrexrode asks, "where and where?" [robmumble] inky says, "hunh dang" [robmumble] Rob says, "we were like whuh huh well I guess I'll enjoy it" [music] Allen says, "another historical difficulty is the terminology varied across europe at the time, as they were being adopted, so it's not known which refered to actual overspun strings" [robmumble] Rob says, "maybe it'll be the only time I ever fly first class" [robmumble] jenrexrode says, "dont get all spoiled and forget how to fold up your legs" [robmumble] Rob says, "I can't have free drinks because I'm chauffeuring my aunts from the airport" [robmumble] Rob says, "my cousin is getting married in colorado" [robmumble] Allen asks, "ooo. Except, it sucks to get 1st class on a non-oceanic voyage. What's special, except big seats?" [robmumble] Rob says, "there's also an IF world engagement party in seattle later this month" [robmumble] Rob says (to Allen), "big seats!" [robmumble] Rob says, "I am hoping to arrive not feeling cramps and neck pain and discomfort" [robmumble] Rob says, "maybe I'll sit next to someone who will change my life forever" [robmumble] Allen says, "compare that to a British Airways 1st class ticket to London, with multi-course meals and hot british airbabes asking you ever 15 minutes if you need anything" [robmumble] Rob says, "unlikely since I never talk to my seatmates" [robmumble] Rob says, "yeah I need my 8 thousand dollars back" [robmumble] jenrexrode says, "you might if it was Sandra Bullock" [robmumble] ghira says (to allen), "I thought first class was vast seats that reclined until horizontal, metal cutlery, real food," [robmumble] Allen says, "colorado is a pretty short distance. I'd rather drive" [robmumble] ghira says (to allen), "glasses made of actual glass. and about 16 thousand dollars." [robmumble] Rob says, "I might. or that would just be intimidating" [begood] Johnny says, "Most online communities are like a big burnt pizza, and you're looking for a piece with just a nicely charred bottom." [robmumble] Rob says, "man, I underestimated by half" [robmumble] jenrexrode says, "first person that I could think that would be on that flight" [robmumble] ghira says, "and even if I were a millionaire I'm not sure I'd want to pay 16 thousand to cross the atlantic" [begood] Rob says, "hmm that's kinda quotable" [robmumble] Allen says (to ghira), "yeah, I flew BA first class once. It was compensation for them bumping us off our flight" Recapping 41 of 41 lines from misc/personal/begood: [begood]/001 * NewsBoy hollers, "Extra! Extra! Johnny has posted message 2, about 'Going dark', to the bulletin board! Read it quickly, before I decide it's not worthy of this bb!" [begood]/002 Johnny._. [begood]/003 Johnny._.5._. [begood]/004 Doug asks, "where were you last time?" [begood]/005 Olly says, "He was somewhere with another MUD getting lipstick on his collar." [begood]/006 Johnny says, "ha ha" [begood]/007 Johnny says, "I didn't have dodgy Internet access." [begood]/008 Doug says, "me neither!" [begood]/009 Johnny says, "Er, I had dodgy, etc. Also, replace dodgy with no." [begood]/010 Olly says, "I thought maybe it was dodgy all the time, but at the time in question you didn't have it at all." [begood]/011 Johnny says (to Olly), "Right." [begood]/012 Doug asks, "are you black ops on assignment in Afghanistan?" [begood]/013 Olly says, "He probably wouldn't be allowed to tell us if he were." [begood]/014 Johnny says, "To the best of my knowledge, Olly's right." [begood]/015 Johnny says, "WTF even is this." [begood]/016 Johnny says, "I'm backing up my Yahoo email with Zimbra. It's about a quarter done." [begood]/017 Limax says, "I'm glad I got to see you" [begood]/018 Johnny says, "Hi Limax" [begood]/019 Johnny says, "Free Yahoo! mail is worse than the mob." [begood]/020 Johnny says, "The Italian mob from films." [begood]/021 Ellison asks, "why would you use Yahoo! mail, anyway? do you have low self-esteem, Johnny?" [begood]/022 borowski says, "Aww" [begood]/023 Johnny says (to Ellison), "I was young and I needed the email." [begood]/024 Ellison says, "ah yes, the e-mailer with a heart of gold. a more tragic tale was never told." [begood]/025 Johnny says, "It's inching towards half." [begood]/026 Johnny says, "423 emails from Papa John's." [begood]/027 Gerynar asks, "do you order that much pizza?" [begood]/028 Ellison says, "4/23 is St. George's Day" [begood]/029 Ellison asks, "were you feeding a dragon?" [begood]/030 borowski says, "Or got that many coupons." [begood]/031 Johnny says, "Huh, the French Construct site wrote about inklewriter." [begood]/032 Johnny | Cette application web vous donne la possibilité de créer une histoire web interactive à la façon des livres dont vous êtes le héro. Vous pouvez créer différentes parties ponctuées de choix paramétrables, il y a même un système de conditions qui permet par exemple d’afficher un certain texte si on en a lu un certain autre. [begood]/033 jenrexrode says, "I can almost read that" [begood]/034 Gerynar says, "arf blargle zous effette" [begood]/035 borowski says, "Yeah, I was thinking the same thing." [begood]/036 jenrexrode asks, "interactive web story?" [begood]/037 borowski says, "As far as almost being able to read it." [begood]/038 Johnny says, "inklewriter lets you make these hypertext things." [begood]/039 Johnny says, "It's technology that shouldn't be in the hands of the French, frankly (ha ha)." [begood]/040 Johnny says, "Most online communities are like a big burnt pizza, and you're looking for a piece with just a nicely charred bottom." [begood]/041 Rob says, "hmm that's kinda quotable" Recapped 41 of 41 lines from misc/personal/begood. [robmumble] Allen says, "caviar and roast lamb and stuff" [robmumble] Rob says, "swank" [robmumble] ghira says, "so I assume first class is billionaires and/or people not spending their own money" [robmumble] Allen says, "and they gave us lots of swag, including foot wamers" #2 [misc/personal/begood] From: Johnny Date: 01-Aug-12 17:29 Subject: Going dark I might be gone another while soon. Just a heads-up this time. [robmumble] BrenBarn says, "heh, airbabes" [robmumble] jenrexrode exclaims, "wam!" [begood] Rob says, "wait, what's all this going dark stuff" [robmumble] Allen says (to ghira), "it's also people who figure out how to game the frequent flier system" [robmumble] ghira exclaims (at allen), "and people who get upgraded from business for arbitrary reasons!" [begood] Rob says, "hm the only word I'm not clear on is ponctue'" [robmumble] ghira says, "I got upgraded from cattle to business once for making the check-in person go "aww" apparently" [robmumble] Allen says, "there was one guy that figured out in the early 2000s how to game the AA system. He flew to southeast asia, then spent 3 weeks taking puddle-jumping AA flights 6 times a day across vietnam and cambodia" [robmumble] Rob says, "billionaires take their own private aircraft" [robmumble] ghira says, ""aisle or window?" "whatever's less popular" "why?" "well i don' care but someone might" "awww... I'll upgrade to to business"" [robmumble] Allen says, "and from that many flights, managed to get lifetime highest-class frequent flier privileges" [begood] Johnny says, "I'm possibly moving soon, nearby, and so will be without steady Internet access." [robmumble] ghira says (to allen), "huh" [robmumble] Rob says (to ghira), "wow" [begood] Johnny says, "At least until things settle." [begood] Rob says, "oh ok" [robmumble] Allen asks (of ghira), "how tall are you?" [robmumble] ghira says (to rob), "well once ever" [begood] Rob says, "are you going to keep working on that game" [robmumble] Rob says, "probably not as tall as you and I are" [robmumble] ghira says (to allen), "5'9" I guess" [robmumble] Rob says, "together we're 19'6"" [robmumble] Allen says, "I always want aisle. The alternative is to keep my legs crammed up for X hours" [robmumble] Rob says, "21'3"! Damn! Mustafa!" K-Y says, "zzz" K-Y then looked around and came to the conclusion that pretty much no one in this lounge even lifts. K-Y has disconnected. [robmumble] ghira says, "I vaguely prefer window. I don't want to have to get up when other people want to go to the toilet" [robmumble] BrenBarn says, "6 times a day? that seems nuts" [robmumble] Rob asks, "you stick your gams out into the aisle?" [robmumble] ghira says, "but I don't really have a strong preference" [robmumble] Rob says, "I used to prefer window because I liked to stare out the window but I don't do that any more" [begood] Johnny says, "I read to the second chapter in the book, but it uses some sprites that aren't actually up anywhere." Johnny does like justice, but that's taking it a bit far. Mi acetos bananon [robmumble] Rob says, "since I usually try to nap the whole time and/or do crosswords" Thanks four showing this 2 us mandmscommercials! Johnny insisted that the mobile hot-dog-on-a-bun did nothing wrong. [money] ghira exclaims, "or #relief. credit card statement for august is out! woo!" [begood] Johnny says, "So, I'll bandage that (I think I can rip the sprites from the PDF) and keep chuggin'." [robmumble] Allen says (to Brenbarn), "here we go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExgstrszD3E " [money] ghira says, "so now I can buy tickets to australia and they will appear on _september_ statement" [begood] Rob says, "challenging you to reverse engineer your own" [robmumble] ghira says, "the longest flight I take is usually 3 hours for sicily" [robmumble] ghira says, "8-9 hours to atlanta once every 2 years" [money] Rob says, "ah yeah I know that one" [robmumble] ghira says, "of course australia is going to be ... grim" [robmumble] BrenBarn asks (of Allen), "is this still valid or did the airlines close these loopholes?" [money] Rob says, "I just paid july's credit card bill, and I was forced to understand why june's bill was so small, because things I thought were going to be on that one came in the next month all at once with a lot of other things" [robmumble] Rob says, "austin's in the middle of the US so it's never much longer than flying halfway across the states" [money] ghira says, "I don't generally wait for a statement before buying things but 1500-2000 pounds on tickets? hell yeah" [robmumble] Rob says, "accounting for diagonals" [money] jenrexrode says, "I wonder what the longest flight is from here" [robmumble] ghira asks, "alaska?" [money] jenrexrode says, "my friend is going to Tahiti for her honeymoon" [robmumble] Alex says (to ghira), "Awwwk! Word on the street is that Alaska is the home of America's hottest governor." [money] ghira asks, "hawaii?" [money] Rob says, "I flew to toronto a few years ago" [money] ghira says, "or of course china" [money] Rob says, "or australia, for that matter" [money] ghira says, "probably ilac but it's us there too" [money] Rob says, "I still haven't been to hawaii. or the UK. blahsigh" [money] Rob says, "oh doops" [robmumble] Rob says (to alex), "ex-governor you mean" [robmumble] Alex exclaims (at Rob), "Awwwk! No parse found!" [money] jenrexrode says, "i guess I could find our antipode" [money] Rob says, "nice vocab" [money] jenrexrode asks, "if that's what it's called?" [robmumble] Allen says, "at 4:33 he talks about tickets in Thailand for $18" [money] Rob says, "sounded good to me" [money] ghira says (to rob), "well I'm sure Europe is still up for being EuroRobToured" [money] Rob says, "yeah somehow someday" [money] jenrexrode says, "yay, I win" [money] ghira asks (of jen), "because it's Tahiti?" [money] Rob says, "because antipode means what she thought" [money] jenrexrode says, "no, just win the vocab" [money] ghira says, "oh ah" [money] ghira says, "I have no idea where Tahiti is other that somewhere hot" [money] Rob says, "I noted where it was during the opening ceremonies" [money] ghira says, "and "far from the US" given events in the Truman show" [money] Allen says, "I'm betting it's not as hot as Dallas" [kickstarter] Johnny says, "#indiegogo heh" [money] Rob says, "which was the best geography lesson I've ever had squeezed into 45 minutes" [kickstarter] Johnny | A sculpture of your head! [money] jenrexrode | http://www.antipodemap.com/ [money] BrenBarn says, "most places on earth have antipodal points that are in the ocean" [money] jenrexrode says, "so of course i'm in the ocean in the southern hemisphere..." [Olympics] Rob says, "#tangent for every country in the parade they showed a world map with the US, then zoomed into where the country was in relation to it" [money] BrenBarn says, "sweet, french southern and antarctic lands" [money] jenrexrode says, "almost perfectly inbetween australia and madagascar" [Olympics] Rob says, "I also wanted to look at everyone's flags, but NBC did this incredibly annoying thing" [Olympics] Rob says, "where they showed flag graphics fluttering but folded, so the bottom half of each flag was missing, as well as the right half" [money] ghira says, "just south east of new zealand is my antipodean point then" [money] Allen says (to jenrexrode), "woo, halfway between echidnas and lemurs" [Olympics] Rob says, "so it was just the upper left quadrant of each flag, and then obscured by the fluttering animation slightly further" [money] Allen says, "my evil scientist plan is to breed a genetic army of echidna-lemurs" [money] ghira says, "I guess my evil scientist plan needs to involve casu marzu somehow" [money] Allen says, "cheese is always a good start" [money] BrenBarn | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antipodes [money] BrenBarn says, "shows a good visualization of how little land is antipodal to land" [money] Allen says, "an interesting question is how many historical periods had no antipodal lands" [money] BrenBarn says, "hmmmm" [money] Allen says, "probably a lot" [tangent] zarf says, "that Torchwood episode had a plot point of how Shanghai and Buenos Aires are close to antipodal" [money] BrenBarn says, "I guess all those supercontinents were in one hemisphere" [money] Allen says, "especially the pangaia phases" [money] Allen says, "yeah" [tangent] zarf says, "that may be as close as we have to large antipodal cities" [tangent] inky says, "more importantly, that's the only place you can dig to china from" [poweruser] jenrexrode says, "yay, I have infected the MUD with my antipodal suggestion" [tangent] Rob says, "I remember that" [tangent] zarf says, "Madrid and Wellington, NZ" [money] Rob says, "unless you buy into the neal adams small earth theory" [tangent] jenrexrode says (to inky), "ha ha" [tangent] BrenBarn says, "yeah, the overlap between the southern part of South America and a strip of east Asia is the only major overlap in populated areas" [poweruser] Rob says, "poweruser activate" [poweruser] jenrexrode says, "heh heh" [money] Allen says, "if you really try to dig, you encounter the hollow earth pretty soon, a land of a small inner sun, and giant mushrooms and peaceful dwarfs" [money] Rob says, "hooray" [money] jenrexrode asks, "morlocks?" [money] Rob says, "is there a whole genre of fiction there" [money] Allen says, "in DC comics, Mike Grel rules for that genre" [money] Rob says, "I have had the occasional daydream about such a set-up but haven't ever produced any stories to go along with it" DON'T buy a parrot figuring that it will be a fun surprise for me. vaporware thinks the long-term unemployed will just give up looking for a job, and take to traveling the country on railway cars seeking odd jobs in exchange for a can of hobo beans. [money] Rob says, "but somehow it's a silly infectious idea" Rob says, "v-dub" [money] Allen says, "Shakira was every fanboy's dream who was an adolescent between 1978-1983 or so http://www.mikegrell.com/thewarlord/articles/ww_shakira.html " vaporware says, "arby" [money] ghira says, "Banks' "Matter" is set in a multi-level version of that" [money] Rob says, "I guess I didn't achieve adolescence until just after that" [money] Rob says, "what are the leve" [money] Rob says, "ls" jenrexrode says, "that was the name of my sandwich that I had to rescue from under the bed last week" [money] ghira says (to rob), "well it's set on a planet of nested spheres" vaporware says, "I hear it's good mood food.," [money] Rob says, "mm comic amazons" [money] Allen says, "I have a bunch of Warlord comics from that era" [money] Rob says, "ah" jenrexrode says, "the dog was happy about it" [money] Allen says, "it was one of the few DC comics I read. I was mostly a marvel guy" [money] Rob says, "me too" [money] Allen says, "Warlord was a really decent comic of the era" [money] Rob says, "when Watchmen came out my friend wanted to buy it right away and I was like 'DC? sux'" [money] Rob says, "later I scrambled to buy the back issues" [money] Allen says, "oh,y eah, I didn't find out about Watchmen until the 90s" [money] Rob says, "I have a full set of original issues" [money] jenrexrode says, "the 3rd longest flight is from Sydney to Dallas - 15 hr 25 min" [movie] Rob says, "I just watched the john carpenter movie They Live" [movie] Rob says, "which is famous for a brawling fight scene" [movie] Rob says, "but I'd never watched it" [movie] Rob says, "I think I missed it because it came out just when I went to college" [movie] Rob says, "it was actually really fun, probably the last really good entertainment john carpenter made" [money] jenrexrode exclaims, "oh, that's longest by distance, not by time!" [movie] Rob says, "and kind of eerie because there's a way in which it reminds me of the world today" borowski has disconnected. borowski has connected. [movie] vaporware asks, "The way we're all out of bubble gum?" [movie] Rob says, "the hero finds these special sunglasses that not only reveal monster aliens living disguised among us, but the propaganda to keep everyone docile and complacent in every magazine, newspaper, and billboard" [movie] Rob says, "saying 'OBEY' and 'STAY ASLEEP' and so on" [movie] Ellison says, "they were just showing the 'cripple fight' South Park episode on tv the other night where they recreate the alley fight shot for shot" [movie] Rob says, "then at one point the guy sees a few bills of paper currency and it says 'THIS IS YOUR GOD'" [movie] Rob says (to Ellison), "yeah!" [movie] Rob says, "I mean, I mainly only knew about They Live enough to know that the southpark episode was riffing on it" [movie] Allen asks, "what abouth clothing and hot babes?" [movie] Rob says, "the actual fight in the movie is indeed classic and awesome" [movie] BrenBarn says, "a friend of mine was telling me about that movie recently" [movie] Allen says, "also, I've never heard of this" [movie] Rob says, "it's worth watching" [movie] Allen asks, "when was it made?" [movie] Rob says, "that's the Rob recommendation for the week of 08/01" [movie] Rob says, "1988" [movie] Allen says, "huh, wow" [movie] Rob says, "starring 'Rowdy' Roddy Piper, who was a wrestling star at the time" [movie] Allen says, "I was a big SF movie watcher in that era" [movie] Rob says, "I never even heard of it for a decade and a half later" [movie] Rob says, "completely missed it" [movie] Rob says, "didn't know it was in theaters, didn't see it on cable" [movie] Rob says, "but my years of college and grad school were a media blackout" [movie] Rob says, "apart from buying music, but I wasn't necessarily buying the latest anything" [movie] Ellison says, "my older brother loved professional wrestling, so I did to some degree by association. They Live hit that sweet spot where a wrestler can benefit a movie after a wrestling career... kind of like Jesse Ventura in the Running Man" [movie] vaporware says, "Or Hulk Hogan in Mr. Mom." [movie] Rob says, "he was in Running Man? I only think of Predator" [movie] Ellison says, "ha" [movie] Rob says (to vw), "pfth" [movie] vaporware says, "Or The Rock in that one about the mummy." [movie] Ellison says (to Rob), "yeah, he was decent in that, too, but the Running Man role was my favorite" [movie] Rob says, "Carpenter used Piper's limited skills but large physical presence well" [movie] Rob says, "didn't ask him to do anything more than he could do, but used his literal strengths. as in the fight scene" [movie] ghira asks, "was princess bride also an example of this?" [movie] Rob says, "'I ain't got time t'bleed'" [movie] Rob asks (of ghira), "example of which?" [movie] Rob says, "oh, andre the giant? sure why not" [movie] ghira says, "wrestler ... timing" [movie] Allen asks, "oh was he a wrestler?" [movie] Rob says, "he had also famously (to me) been the bionic Sasquatch in the Six Million Dollar Man many years before that" [movie] Rob says (to Allen), "hah" [movie] Rob says, "yeah he was" [movie] Allen says, "oh. I know him only through that film" [movie] Rob says, "(later replaced by Ted 'Lurch' Cassidy')" [movie] Allen says, "and from anecdotes from that film." [movie] Ellison says, "oh, only loosely related, I watched 'John Carter' tonight. there was at least one line where the delivery of a line by the protagonist sounded like Kurt Russell (in tone, not dialogue). made me go, huh, maybe this guy could do a decent Kurt Russell movie reboot." Johnny does like justice, but that's taking it a bit far. Mi acetos bananon [movie] vaporware says, "These days he's mostly known for his posse." [movie] Rob says, "anecdotes from that film should have mentioned his wrestling career" Thanks four showing this 2 us mandmscommercials! Johnny insisted that the mobile hot-dog-on-a-bun did nothing wrong. [movie] Allen says, "I know nothing at all about wrestling culture" [movie] vaporware says, "Also, for all the obedience he inspired." [movie] Rob says, "and from shepard fairey's OBEY graphic" [movie] Allen says, "but the anecdotes make him seen incredibly sweet" [movie] Rob says, "timing" [movie] Rob says, "he was by all accounts a lovely guy but gigantically huge" [movie] jenrexrode asks, "not even DFW wrestiling from the 70's?" [movie] Rob asks, "dallas-ft worth wrestling ?" [movie] Ellison says, "Billy Crystal's movie, My Giant, was basically inspired by his meeting Andre during the Princess Bride" [movie] Rob says (to Ellison), "I was going to mention that but was too lazy to do so" [movie] Rob says, "but andre died, so they had to get that other dude" [movie] Allen says, "I really know nothing about wrestling" [movie] jenrexrode says, "yeah, there were local wresting matches on tv in Dallas when I was a kid" [movie] Rob says, "they should have just canceled the project instead" [movie] Ellison says, "I forgot that Andre was supposed to be in it at all" [movie] Rob says, "all I know about it is that it's faked as entertainment with goodguy vs badguy crowd stoking, but that the people who perform it get really hurt and mangled and it takes a lot of effort for them to do it" [movie] Rob says, "also, that bigfoot episode of six million dollar man is still good" [movie] vaporware says, " http://anwarmontasir.com/2011/10/26/my-dinner-with-andre-the-giant/ " [movie] Ellison says, "heh" [movie] BrenBarn says, "I was just looking at clips from my dinner with andre today on youtube" [movie] Rob says, "if I had a Rob movie fest where I got to design a whole film festival program week I'd show that episode as part of it" [movie] Rob says (to BB), "inconceivable" [movie] BrenBarn says, "I was trying to find a clip of that one part where Wallace Shawn talks about how nothing could be better than finding his cup of cold coffee in the morning" [movie] Allen says (to Rob), "also: http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lv8li7Cx7X1qa0q13o1_500.jpg " [movie] BrenBarn says, "but I didn't find one" [movie] Rob says, ">warm<" [movie] Rob says, "I'm not sure I get 'six fingers'" [movie] zarf says, "count rugen" [movie] Rob says, "oh right" [movie] Rob says, "that was filed away in a different mental space" [movie] BrenBarn says, "heh, that's cute" [movie] Rob says, "sounds true too" [movie] Rob says, "apart from the offscreen director shouts" [movie] Allen says, "imdb says:" [movie] Allen | During the filming of some scenes for The Princess Bride, the weather became markedly cold for Robin Wright Penn. Andre the Giant helped her by placing one of his hands over her head; his hands were so large that one would entirely cover the top of her head, keeping her warm. [movie] Rob says, "that would have happened before someone called action not after" [movie] Rob says, "he had HUUUUGE hands" [movie] BrenBarn says, "heh" "You'd rather have a male technician? Do you have a racial or religious preference, so I can tell dispatch who to send?" Lionheart makes no law abridging the freedom of s***ch, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to ***emble, and to pe***ion the government for a redress of grievances. [movie] BrenBarn says, "you can tell in that one scene where Inigo Montoya puts his hand against his" [movie] Rob says, "I say this with respect as someone who has always had large hands" [movie] Allen asks, "I haven't seen that movie in so many years. Does it still stand up well?" [movie] Rob says, "YES" [movie] BrenBarn says, "a thousand times yes" [movie] BrenBarn says, "one of the best movies ever" [movie] Rob says, "it has the best movie swordfight ever" [movie] Rob says, "and is one of the best movies ever" [movie] Lionheart says, "Well, you know what they say about men with huge hands.... huge gloves." [movie] Rob says, "I get a little distracted and bored for about 20 minutes of it 2/3rds of the way through" [movie] Rob says, "starting from the swamp and up to the hideous torture machine scene" [movie] Rob says, "patton oswalt has a joke about being depressed and watching princess bride 8 times in a row that I kind of relate to" [movie] BrenBarn says, "heh" [movie] Rob says, "I've had some depressed days when I found it on cable and man it helped" [movie] BrenBarn says, "Princess Bride is such an awesome movie" [movie] Lionheart says, "I don't think I know that joke" [movie] BrenBarn says, "just thinking about it can help depression" [movie] Rob says, "it's in one of his standup specials or something but I can't tell you which one" [movie] Rob says, "talking about this movie makes me miss peter falk" borowski has disconnected. borowski has connected. Rob says, "ok I need to fuzz out for a while" Rob says, "gniMUD" Rob heads right on out. Find release from your cares. have a good time. Seeya later.