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ifMUD
An interactive real time social network chat bulletin board
quotebook url database with a parrot bot
Copyright 1997-2007 by Loungent Technologies, a wholly owned subsidiary of
rec.[arts|games].int-fiction; All rights reserved.
Release 4 / Serial number 990908 / perlMUD v2.1z
    "The characters were mostly of the cardboard cutout variety.
    I wanted to punch everyone except the one Scottish guy."
         --Jearl
  NOTE: Whenever a fix or enhancement is in place, it will be announced
  on the channel '#mud-updates'.
  OTHER NOTE: There is a mailing list where people can say things like
  "hey, the mud's down, what's up with that?" In fact, since this is
  the only thing the list is used for, you should join it if you are
  interested in this subject. To join, go to
    http://groups.google.com/group/ifmud/
  or talk to Steve.
Robinson Manor
A gracious, welcoming, airy space. Music drifts in from unseen speakers. A picture window on the southern wall provides a pleasant source of light and a sense of openness.
You can see: teleporter, a picture window, comfy sofa, Jeopardy podium, buzzer1, buzzer2, buzzer3, Jota greets Rob, fake_Robb_Sherwin
Visible Exits: west, east
<Rob> There is no other option for the world than to invade America and dismantle the lasers, send them through a time portal, and repurpose them as vibrators for dinosaurs. I?ve invented much of this."
No new channels have been created since your last check.
Adventurer's Lounge
Candles on the wood-panelled walls create a comfortably dark atmosphere. Hand-drawn maps are taped to nearly every surface -- the walls, the ceiling, the trophy case in the corner. Seating is plentiful. A small storage closet is to the north.
You can see: new laundry list, Birthday Calendar, magic laundry list, blank banner, Even Newer World Map, charset sampler, Automeeter, TheMasterTheorem player names, time zones, MUD Client Wish List, battle.net battletags, madlibs, Anything Finder, Sarcasm Detector, Gene Ray
Players: Alex, markm, Touchy, small, Ryan, GDorn, jpt, vimes, Bishop, Dave, Allen, Otis, ctmiller, baf, marc, Psmith, annabianca, McMartin, lpsmith, Marktwo, Jon, DorianX, zaphod, DavidW, Steve, Hugo, Matthew, genericgeekgirl, zarf, ghira, BrenBarn, Johnny, jenrexrode, jess, Ellison, Grocible, inky, Emily, Lucea, Recchi, boucher, Petrosilius
Visible Exits: north, west, southwest, southeast, up, east
Rob comes right on in.
Recapping 1000 of 4079 lines from recent channels:
[people-suk]/17:37 inky says, "Dave is on the verge of a brady bunch situation here"
[people-suk]|17:38 Jota says, "Except that 'Alice' will be a waitress at the local Hooters."
[people-suk]|17:38 Gunther says, "he ... did ... whattttttt"
[lounge]|17:38 * Marktwo has disconnected.
[lounge]|17:38 * Marktwo has connected.
[personals]|17:39 inky | inky101, hamstermagnet is checking you out right now
[personals]|17:39 Jota says, "So you'd better lock up your hamsters."
[personals]|17:39 Iain says, "Sounds like an attractive personality"
[personals]|17:39 Iain says, "Unless you're pointing the wrong way"
[personals]|17:40 vimes says, "i didn't even know there were polar hamsters"
[lounge]|17:40 Ellison says, "csb"
[lounge]|17:40 Ellison goes back to Squeamhurst..
[lounge]|17:40 * Ellison has disconnected.
[personals]|17:40 Tale says, "I only heard of bipolar ones."
[personals]|17:42 Jota asks, "I forget, do polar hamsters not eat penguins or do they not eat bears?"
[r*if-sux]|17:42 Johnny | On Subj: I can point to you that the  "erected" word, has a double meaning in Italian ? I don't know if is the same in English....
[r*if-sux]|17:42 Johnny | ... but is somewhat fitting the SM IFs...
[r*if-sux]|17:44 Johnny says (to r*if), "I've missed you, baby."
[lounge]|17:45 Petrosilius arrives from the east.
[GirlGenius]|17:50 Jota says, "Ha. So apparently a few years ago, at a comics convention, Phil and Kaja's young son was with them."
[lounge]|17:50 Tale is fired from breathing.
[lounge]|17:50 * Tale has disconnected.
[GirlGenius]|17:51 Jota says, "He noticed a small empty table next to the big Studio Foglio one. So he sat down at it and started drawing, and put up a sign offering 'original Foglio sketches' for $1 apiece."
[GirlGenius]|17:51 Jota says, "And apparently successfully sold some."
[GirlGenius]|17:51 vimes says, "awwww awesome"
[sex]|17:51 inky | Researchers asked women who were not using contraception at the time they conceived about their reasons. They found that 35.9 percent said they did not think they could get pregnant. Additionally, 23.1 percent said they would not mind if they became pregnant, 17.3 percent said they had not expected to have sex, 14.3 percent said they were worried about the side effects of using birth control.
[GirlGenius]|17:51 inky says, "I hope they were sketches of glasses of lemonade"
[lounge]|17:54 Gunther says, "ok, beddery"
[politics]|17:54 inky | The follower kerfuffle even spawned a hashtag, #morefakemitt, which liberals are gleefully appending to tweets such as, "Guys, Mitt Romney isn't buying fake Twitter followers. Bots are just following the candidate they have most in common with."
[lounge]|17:54 Gunther, Geoffrey, and Shamino all represented various aspects of Garriott: his ego, his ego, and his ego, respectively
[sex]|17:54 Jota says, "I'm not sure what we can do to help education that 23.1%."
[sex]|17:54 Jota says, "Er, educate, even."
[sex]|17:55 Psmith says, "presumably some of those were actively trying for a baby."
[sex]|17:55 inky says, "hmm"
[sex]|17:55 inky says, "if so I think the numbers are too small"
[sex]|17:55 inky says, "so I am inclined to think this is people who didn't intend to become pregnant"
[lounge]|17:56 Ellison arrives from the east.
[lounge]|17:59 Doug goes home.
[blogenfreude]|18:04 inky says, "man, http://notalwaysright.com/murrays-law/22083 "
[blogenfreude]|18:06 vimes says, "dang"
[blogenfreude]|18:06 Ellison says, "it is both crazy that people could actually enjoy seeing somebody fired and sounds like it'd be fun to be Murray as a full-time job"
[lounge]|18:07 Nitku leaves.
[blogenfreude]|18:07 vimes says, "i wish we had had that policy when i worked at barnes and noble"
[blogenfreude]|18:07 vimes says, "it would have saved us a lot more than an hour a day"
[GirlGenius]|18:10 McMartin says, "That is adorable"
[GirlGenius]|18:10 McMartin says, "I'd totally have bought one"
[GirlGenius]|18:10 McMartin says, "omg nepotism, but still"
[DustWorld]|18:11 DavidW says, "hm. This 'Forever Nuts' tea is supposed to turn 'crazy pink' when it steeps. I'm not seeing pink!"
[lounge]|18:11 Iain leaps astride a mountain pony and gallops off bareback for reinforcements.
[DustWorld]|18:11 vimes says, "seeing red over not seeing pink"
[DustWorld]|18:11 inky says, "you realize this implies it might not be mentally ill, either"
[DustWorld]|18:12 DavidW says, "well, the brandname is David's Tea."
[DustWorld]|18:12 (from vimes) DavidW says, "and i stole it, so that's not even true!"
[DustWorld]|18:13 DavidW says, "I found it at the food bank, so I didn't need to steal it."
[gmail]|18:13 Johnny | Spicy Spam Kabobs - Serve with hot cooked rice
[DustWorld]|18:13 DavidW says, " http://www.davidstea.com/forever-nuts "
[sex]|18:14 Fang asks, "does that mean 77% of us are accidents?"
[DustWorld]|18:14 DavidW asks, "Maybe it's too old to turn pink?"
[lounge]|18:14 boucher goes home.
[lounge]|18:14 * boucher has disconnected.
[personals]|18:15 BrenBarn says, "wow, hamstermagnet"
[DustWorld]|18:15 DavidW asks, "Or my teaspoon repelled all the beetroot?"
[personals]|18:15 Johnny asks (of BB), "Have you been hamster magnetized?"
[personals]|18:16 BrenBarn says, "inky is a hamstermagnet magnet"
[personals]|18:16 inky says, "hee hee"
[sex]|18:16 Jota says, "I believe I was a 'enh, if it happens, it happens'."
[personals]|18:17 inky asks (of Johnny), "by rubbing the hamster along yourself in a series of strokes all in the same direction?"
[sex]|18:17 Jota says, "(Apparently I happened.)"
[personals]|18:17 Johnny says, "You'd know."
[sex]|18:17 Fang exclaims, "how inspirational!"
[sex]|18:21 BrenBarn says, "you were happenin'"
[personals]|18:21 vimes says, "i believe that hampsterizes you"
[personals]|18:21 vimes says, "hamsterizes, even"
[personals]|18:22 vimes says, "i don't know why i always want to put p in hamster but SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP"
[personals]|18:22 BrenBarn says, "heh"
[personals]|18:22 maga says, "blame hampsterdance"
[personals]|18:22 Jota asks (of vimes), "Flashacks to 90's animated gifs?"
[personals]|18:22 Jota says, "Timing."
[personals]|18:22 BrenBarn says, "you're the R Kelly of the hamster world"
[personals]|18:22 vimes says, "gah that song"
[personals]|18:22 vimes says, "thanks, jerks"
[personals]|18:23 maga says, "you are all going to hell. in a hampster"
[personals]|18:23 inky says, "hee hee"
[personals]|18:23 Jota exclaims (at vimes), "Glad to share!"
[personals]|18:23 vimes says, "phell"
[personals]|18:23 inky says, "I'm going to hell in hampstead"
[personals]|18:23 vimes says, "the path to purgatory is paved with poor pretentions"
[lounge]|18:23 Jota turns into a slimy toad!
[lounge]|18:29 Emily arrives.
[lounge]|18:30 Ellison says, "hey Emily"
[lounge]|18:30 Grocible says, "em"
[lounge]|18:30 Emily says, "hey"
[lounge]|18:33 Ghogg and at least a dozen men, some of them little better off than he was, explained to him that wheel and car were no longer joined by any physical bond.
[lounge]|18:33 Ghogg says, "Hello"
[lounge]|18:34 inky says, "hey hey"
[lounge]|18:35 Ellison says, "hey Ghogg"
[lounge]|18:36 Ghogg asks, "what's new?"
[lounge]|18:37 DorianX says, "Well, Sherman Helmsley died and Sally Ride ws gay"
[obits]|18:38 BrenBarn says, "hmmmm"
[obits]|18:38 BrenBarn says, "Sally Ride wasn't actually the first woman in space"
[obits]|18:39 BrenBarn says, "she was just the first American woman in space"
[lounge]|18:40 Whizzard goes to hamstring some zombies.
[lounge]|18:40 * Whizzard has disconnected.
[obits]|18:41 maga says, "the sneaky way to say this is that she was the first female astronaut"
[obits]|18:41 vimes says, "heh"
[obits]|18:44 DorianX asks, "Hm. Was she the first gay person in space?"
[obits]|18:44 DorianX says, "I have this dim notion that one of the gemini astronauts may have turned out to be gay years later"
[obits]|18:49 DorianX says, "I guess the bright side is that Judith Resnik now gets to be remembered as the first Straight Female Astronaut"
[lounge]|18:50 Jota arrives from the east.
[lounge]|18:50 K-Y's apocalyptic flotsam included the emergence of figures of such dazzling dementia as to momentarily mesmerize even thinking people.
[lounge]|18:50 Jota greets.
[lounge]|18:50 K-Y says, "re"
[lounge]|18:52 Petrosilius goes home.
[lounge]|18:58 Ellison says, "later"
[lounge]|18:58 Ellison goes back to Squeamhurst..
[lounge]|18:58 * Ellison has disconnected.
[music]|19:01 K-Y says, "uh, wow http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B008LBRRHO "
[music]|19:01 K-Y says, "new Delerium single actually sounds like a throwback"
[music]|19:01 K-Y says, "(then, eight remixes)"
[music]|19:01 Grocible asks, "you mean it might actually be good?"
[music]|19:02 K-Y says, "it sounds going back at least Karma-era"
[music]|19:03 Grocible says, "that's good"
[music]|19:03 Grocible says, "Dear Bill and Rhys. Please stop fucking around, producing feeble attempts at commercial horseshit. Thank you."
[music]|19:03 K-Y says, "the weird thing is that this is supposed to be the 'viral' single"
[music]|19:04 K-Y says, "there's an ... 'official'? ... single coming up later"
[music]|19:04 K-Y says, "this says Rhys is only involved with half the album"
[music]|19:04 K-Y says, " http://www.releasemagazine.net/bill-leeb-on-the-new-delerium-and-front-line-assembly/ "
[music]|19:04 Grocible says, "that could be good, that could be bad"
[music]|19:05 K-Y | the other half was made in Vancouver with current FLA member Jeremy Inkel, who joins the Delerium ranks for the first time
[music]|19:05 K-Y says, "looks like he's one of the FLA newbies"
[music]|19:06 Grocible says, "man"
[music]|19:07 Grocible says, "my nettwerk years feel like a really long time ago"
[lounge]|19:08 Miseri is very disappointed in you.  Earlier, he may have ransacked your office, but he is *very* disappointed in you.
[google]|19:09 Johnny says, "Damn, man."
[google]|19:09 Johnny says, "Why didn't I do that in the first place."
[google]|19:10 Johnny says, "You can make a collection of Google Documents and then, I assume, haven't gotten there you, download them in bulk."
[lounge]|19:10 olethros was sworn in by robed priests on Thursday morning.
[lounge]|19:10 olethros says, "relo"
[google]|19:11 Johnny says, "*yet"
[lounge]|19:15 Lucea had the olive complexion.
[lounge]|19:15 Lucea says, "Hi"
[lounge]|19:15 Fang is told of the death of Christ, and becomes so angry that the brain bursts from his head, and he dies. The blood from the wound baptises him as a Christian, and his soul goes to heaven.
[lounge]|19:16 olethros has ordered three mega-generators to be installed in his boathouse.
[lounge]|19:20 Rob comes right on in.
[lounge]|19:20 Rob says, "blrzgk"
[lounge]|19:21 Grocible says, "Rob"
[lounge]|19:25 Doug has arrived.
[lounge]|19:25 Doug waves.
[google]|19:26 Jon says, "I guess my first question is 'Why would I make Google documents?'"
[google]|19:27 Grocible says, "so you can access them from anywhere"
[google]|19:27 Johnny says, "These are someone else's Google Documents."
[google]|19:27 Allen says, "or because you want to share a formatted doc with a bunch of people, and the alternative of using MS word sucks to 8 degrees of magnitude"
[google]|19:28 Allen says, "esp if multiple people are editing it"
[lounge]|19:28 Rob says, "yop"
[google]|19:29 Allen says, "I hate people that send me a .docx file, which openoffice can't open, and even if it could it's a bother. But people who send a google doc are the kind of people you wanna share a beer with, send christmas cards to, hang out with"
[google]|19:30 inky asks, "but will they take your cat?"
[google]|19:31 vimes says, "(doesn't OO open docx files these days?)"
[lounge]|19:31 Grocible says, "do you like yop rob"
[google]|19:31 Lucea says, "so you can prank people by erasing the whole doc and replacing it with a GIF of crispin glover"
[google]|19:31 BrenBarn says, "I think it does, but some stuff doesn't show up right"
[google]|19:32 Johnny asks, "With his rats?"
[google]|19:32 Grocible says, "you are a cruel cruel woman, lucea"
[google]|19:32 BrenBarn says, "plus in my experience the worst-supported thing is the tracked changes, which is exactly what you want if you're sharing the doc"
[google]|19:32 Lucea asks, "huh, really?"
[google]|19:32 Lucea says, "I've never had a tracked-changes issue with google docs"
[google]|19:32 BrenBarn says, "I mean with OO"
[google]|19:32 Lucea says, "ah"
[lounge]|19:33 mamster quickly learns that he is, in fact, a ghost when the police officer begins urinating on his shoes.
[lounge]|19:33 mamster says, "Schwong"
[lounge]|19:34 Whizzard enters the lounge. Do you like him? Check box: [ ] YES [ ] NO
[lounge]|19:34 Whizzard says, "heyo"
[lounge]|19:34 mamster says, "Hey Whiz"
[lounge]|19:34 vimes says, "awesome entry noises ahoy"
[lounge]|19:34 mamster says, "I say schwong you say heyo"
[lounge]|19:34 mamster says, "We are living in a hip-hop video"
[lounge]|19:34 inky says, "ha ha"
[lounge]|19:35 mamster says, "Also, if you pronounce it 'vi-DAY-o,' that rhymes"
[lounge]|19:35 Grocible says, "Goodness gracious me"
[lounge]|19:35 Grocible says, "if it is not the mamster I see before me"
[lounge]|19:35 vimes says, "the hip-hop video towards your hand"
[lounge]|19:35 mamster says, "Hey Groc"
[lounge]|19:35 mamster says, "This is the mamster you're looking for"
[lounge]|19:36 mamster says, "I am drinking a coffee beverage with gloopy jelly in it"
[comics]|19:36 Jota says, "With comics, it can sometimes take a moment to remember which way to interpret a phrase like 'he returns to his plane'."
[comics]|19:36 Whizzard says, "Heh, yeah, ambiguous."
[lounge]|19:36 Emily says, "that sounds delicious"
[lounge]|19:36 Grocible asks, "Any particular reason?"
[lounge]|19:36 mamster says (to Groc), "Because it was there."
[lounge]|19:37 Allen says, "nothing more appetizing than gloopy jelly"
[lounge]|19:37 Grocible says, "hm"
[lounge]|19:37 Whizzard asks, "Bubble Coffee?"
[lounge]|19:37 mamster says, "The other day I ordered a green tea latte thing that unexpectedly had jelly in it."
[lounge]|19:37 mamster says, "And I kinda liked it, so I wanted to try coffee jelly."
[lounge]|19:37 Grocible asks, "Are you back in Seattle?"
[lounge]|19:37 Grocible says, "I seem to recall you were gallivanting around in Japan recently"
[lounge]|19:38 mamster says, "I am at a Starbucks in Tokyo."
[lounge]|19:38 Grocible says, "Ah, I see"
[lounge]|19:38 Grocible says, "long trip"
[lounge]|19:38 mamster says, "Yes. But I am not going to be able to fit all of the remaining things I want to eat into the remaining meals."
[lounge]|19:38 mamster says, "Or into my remaining craw"
[lounge]|19:39 Grocible asks, "how long has the trip been?"
[lounge]|19:39 mamster says, "I've been here since the 29th."
[lounge]|19:39 Allen says, "strangely, here in Delaware, there were a group of a dozen people doing the japanese big drum and stick clacking thing today, out on the green...."
[lounge]|19:39 Grocible says, "nice"
[lounge]|19:40 mamster says, "And will be here another week or so."
[lounge]|19:40 Grocible says, "not a cheap trip"
[lounge]|19:40 Grocible says, "please have some mochi with azuki bean filling for me"
[lounge]|19:40 mamster says, "I made some Japanese friends and we talk to each other in a hilarious pidgin."
[lounge]|19:40 mamster says, "The other day my friend Emi said she liked the movie Fight Club."
[lounge]|19:41 mamster says, "I attempted to say, 'The first rule of Fight Club is, don't talk about Fight Club,' in Japanese."
[lounge]|19:41 mamster says, "But she thought I was actually telling her not to talk about the movie."
[lounge]|19:41 inky says, "ha ha"
[lounge]|19:41 Allen says, "ha"
[lounge]|19:41 inky asks, "that wouldn't be two different phrasings in japanese, would it?"
[lounge]|19:42 baf asks, "Was the word 'ichiban' involved in your attempted translation?"
[lounge]|19:42 mamster asks (of inky), "Well, it's not really two different phrasings in English, right?"
[lounge]|19:42 K-Y says, "it seems that the issue might be a general lack of pronouns"
[lounge]|19:43 mamster says, "I think the issue is my general lack of facility with the language features that convey any kind of nuance."
[lounge]|19:43 mamster says, "What I said was basically just, 'The rule is, talking about Fight Club is prohibited.'"
[lounge]|19:43 inky says, "ha ha"
[lounge]|19:43 mamster says, "There are dongles and stuff to add to a sentence to indicate you're being jokey."
[lounge]|19:43 inky says (to mamster), "yeah, I was trying to figure out if there was some kind of, I dunno, status indicator in japanese that would distinguish between a movie and an organization"
[lounge]|19:43 inky says, "oh, cool"
[lounge]|19:44 inky says, "though of course in english we have (tinkle, tinkle)"
[lounge]|19:44 mamster says, "Eventually, we figured it out when it occurred to me to say, 'In the movie, Brad Pitt...'"
[lounge]|19:44 mamster says, "The point is, I had to fight a bunch of guys"
[lounge]|19:45 Allen says, "heh"
[lounge]|19:45 Grocible says, "those cats were fast as lightnin'"
[lounge]|19:46 mamster says, "Exactly."
[lounge]|19:46 mamster says, "Today we are going to the street where they sell all the plastic food."
[lounge]|19:46 mamster says, "And where you go to have custom plastic food made if the off-the-rack stuff doesn't represent your cuisine."
[lounge]|19:47 inky says, "I hope it is made by traditional japanese plastismiths"
[lounge]|19:47 mamster says, "hee hee"
[lounge]|19:48 Grocible asks, "Are you going to buy something?"
[lounge]|19:48 Grocible asks, "or have something custom made?"
[lounge]|19:48 Rob moseys right on out.
[lounge]|19:49 mamster says, "I'm going to say, make me some real American food, Jack"
[lounge]|19:49 mamster says, "Actually it's really expensive. I might get something tourist-oriented."
[cabal]|19:49 Emily says, "so preparatory to moving, I've been going through a bunch of stuff at my parents' house and throwing out a lot of papers and then packing up the rest to be shipped to England"
[cabal]|19:49 Emily says, "and among other things, this turned up the card set for the romance novel game"
[programming]|19:49 BrenBarn says, "you know a question is gonna be good when it begins 'currently I have a row of aliens...'"
[cabal]|19:49 Emily says, "which still makes me snicker to myself"
[lounge]|19:49 Grocible says, "they have those sushi fridge magnets, I'm sure"
[cabal]|19:49 inky says, "ha ha"
[cabal]|19:50 inky says, "it's not too late for us to publish it and make a million dollars"
[cabal]|19:50 Emily says, "it still *is* cool"
[cabal]|19:50 Emily says, "though at this point I'm a little hazy about how many ways the million dollars would need to be divided"
[cabal]|19:50 mamster says, "ha ha"
[cabal]|19:50 inky says, "I bet the economics of card game publishing are better these days"
[cabal]|19:50 inky says, "I think we still don't really have any art though"
[cabal]|19:51 Emily says, "I'm slightly tempted to put it out at my engagement party"
[cabal]|19:51 Emily says, "but possibly that would just be too damn weird"
[cabal]|19:51 mamster asks, "Will you play the Romance Novel Guy song as you're walking down the aisle?"
[cabal]|19:51 Emily says (to inky), "there are a couple cards in the set that have some kind of clip art, but in general yeah"
[cabal]|19:51 Emily says (to mamster), "ha ha ha ha ha"
[cabal]|19:51 inky says, "ha ha"
[cabal]|19:51 Emily says, "I am not sure that Graham would be on board with the discovery that he has to wear a kilt"
[cabal]|19:51 inky says, "you should totally pull it out at the engagement party"
[cabal]|19:51 Emily says, "it's not exactly his idiom"
[cabal]|19:52 Grocible says, "inky: tsd"
[cabal]|19:52 mamster asks, "What's the name of the guy in the song?"
[lounge]|19:52 Ghogg says, "brb"
[lounge]|19:52 Ghogg goes home.
[cabal]|19:52 inky says (to Grocible), "hee hee"
[cabal]|19:52 Grocible asks, "does it rhyme with Graham?"
[cabal]|19:52 Emily says, "nothing rhymes with Graham"
[cabal]|19:52 inky asks, "does clapham?"
[cabal]|19:52 mamster says, "Ham"
[cabal]|19:53 Grocible says, "Orange does"
[cabal]|19:53 Grocible says, "Actually, mayhem does"
[cabal]|19:53 inky says, "I think we have his roller derby name then"
[cabal]|19:53 Emily says (to Grocible), "I accent that differently"
[cabal]|19:54 Grocible says, "Honey, you're not supposed to say his name "grey ham". I know he's been very polite all this time..."
[cabal]|19:54 inky says, "I'm not even totally sure how many syllables Graham has, now that I think about it"
[cabal]|19:54 Emily says (to inky), "well the way he and his parents say it, it sort of has one and a half"
[cabal]|19:54 Grocible asks, "there's more than one way to say Graham?"
[cabal]|19:54 mamster says, "Sure."
[cabal]|19:55 Emily says (to Grocible), "most Americans say it as a flat "gram""
[cabal]|19:55 mamster says, "Always followed by 'cracker'"
[cabal]|19:55 Grocible says, "other than my French teacher who'd say "grah-am""
[cabal]|19:55 Grocible asks, "em: really?"
[cabal]|19:55 Emily says, "eys"
[cabal]|19:55 Emily says, "yes"
[cabal]|19:55 Grocible says, "bizarre"
[cabal]|19:55 Emily shrugs
[cabal]|19:55 Grocible says, "I had no idea"
[cabal]|19:55 Emily says, "for the first two years or so of our relationship I was super self-conscious about how I pronounced his name"
[cabal]|19:56 Emily says, "but then conversely he was self-conscious about whether my name was pronounced "Emily" or "Mary" so I guess it comes out even"
[cabal]|19:56 inky says, "hee hee hee"
[cabal]|19:56 inky says, "I guess this is why pet names are invented"
[cabal]|19:57 mamster says, "ha ha"
[cabal]|19:57 mamster says, "I dunno, international pet names can be even trickier"
[cabal]|19:57 mamster says, "Like mon petit chou"
[lounge]|19:57 jenrexrode has entered the lounge. [ Your score has gone up by 10 points ]
[cabal]|19:58 inky says, "ha ha"
[lounge]|19:58 jenrexrode says, "hi"
[cabal]|19:58 Emily says, "my sister had to make two versions of the invitation depending on what people knew me as"
[lounge]|19:59 jenrexrode exclaims, "Happy birthday Storme!"
[cabal]|19:59 Emily says, "so I am anticipating some hilarious confusion at the party"
[cabal]|19:59 Grocible says, "well you'll probably still have loads of people at the wedding sitting around saying, uh - are we at the right wedding/"
[cabal]|19:59 inky says (to Emily), "ha ha"
[cabal]|20:00 inky says (to Grocible), "they can have a 'his side' 'her side' 'other her side'"
[movie]|20:00 DorianX says, "we watched The Dark Knight the other day"
[movie]|20:00 DorianX says, "Y'know, that movie was way the fuck too long"
[movie]|20:00 DorianX says, "also"
[lounge]|20:00 Lucea is gonna get back baby bad balls to you, love, cretin.
[lounge]|20:00 * Lucea has disconnected.
[movie]|20:00 DorianX says, "Seems like this incarnation of the franchise really does not care at all about the idea of Batman as a detective"
[lounge]|20:01 Johnny says, "Hi jen"
[movie]|20:03 inky says, "well, I mean, you can only juggle so many things"
[movie]|20:04 inky says, "I expect the justice league will have more batman as detective because there are other people to cover the sort of avenger/justice fighter roles"
[cabal]|20:04 Emily says, "I will be satisfied if I can prevent my father from making embarrassing toasts in Latin"
[cabal]|20:05 Grocible says, "well if they're in Latin nobody will get his jokes"
[cabal]|20:05 Grocible says, "oh wait"
[supper]|20:05 jenrexrode says, "#lupper Arby's"
[cabal]|20:05 Emily says, "it's just, Graham's parents are all nice and *normal*"
[supper]|20:05 jenrexrode says, "got distracted and didn't get lunch"
[movie]|20:06 Jon asks, "is there actually going to be a Justice League movie?"
[movie]|20:06 Jon asks, "and if so, are they going to reboot Batman yet again?"
[cabal]|20:06 Emily says, "admittedly that could be said about almost anyone's parents in comparison to mine"
[movie]|20:06 Jon says, "because I can only imagine Nolan's Batman's response to discovering Superman exists would be to drink heavily for the rest of the year"
[movie]|20:06 Johnny says, "FIrst you need a Wonder Woman movie, a Martian Manhunter movie, an Aquaman movie."
[movie]|20:07 K-Y says (to Jon), "they failed to get Nolan on board for both of those"
[movie]|20:07 K-Y says, "and then were surprised"
[movie]|20:07 inky says, "my impression is yes, but perhaps the superhero movie bubble will pop before it comes out"
[movie]|20:07 inky says, "but yeah, I don't think Nolan is doing any more superhero movies"
[movie]|20:07 inky says, "if you want to call any future movies involving batman a reboot you can"
[movie]|20:07 inky says, "but I think that is changing terminology somewhat from what comics do"
[movie]|20:08 BrenBarn says, "I think eventually superhero movies will just be like car models"
[movie]|20:08 BrenBarn says, "'Did you see the 2057 Batman?'  'Oh yeah, it was way better than the 2056 Batman'  'Yeah, but the 2048 will always be a classic'"
[movie]|20:08 inky says, "I hear the 2013 superman has a coffee holder"
[movie]|20:09 Allen asks, "largely outsourced to Mexico and China?"
[movie]|20:10 mamster says, "Have you tried Batman 95? BSOD"
[movie]|20:10 mamster says, "Wait, that wouldn't even have been funny 17 years ago."
[lounge]|20:10 Whizzard goes to hamstring some zombies.
[lounge]|20:10 * Whizzard has disconnected.
[movie]|20:10 mamster says, "But saying 'Batman screen of death' is making me laugh"
[cabal]|20:10 lpsmith says, "I am pretty sure that a ton of people think of their own parents as weird, and everyone else's parents as normal."
[movie]|20:10 Grocible says, "we'll forgive you. you're travelling"
[movie]|20:10 K-Y says, "this thing I read today reflected exactly what I was thinking"
[movie]|20:10 BrenBarn says, "1995 mamster BSOD joke was better than the 2012 mamster BSOD joke"
[movie]|20:10 mamster says, "ha ha ha"
[movie]|20:10 Johnny says (to mamster), "It's funnier in Japanese."
[movie]|20:10 K-Y says, "the movie actually caused the Batman character to *develop*"
[cabal]|20:11 lpsmith says, "Probably because you have to really know someone well before you understand how weird they are.  That, and everybody is actually pretty weird."
[movie]|20:11 K-Y says, "in exactly the way that it has not done in comics for so long that it has become this running joke"
[movie]|20:13 K-Y says, "this is going to sound completely redundant but it makes the comics look ridiculous"
[movie]|20:14 BrenBarn says, "ha ha"
[movie]|20:14 inky says, "hmm"
[lounge]|20:15 mamster says, "OK, I am off to the plastic food. Bye now."
[lounge]|20:15 mamster found, say, a frog from 1930 and a badger from 1066.
[lounge]|20:15 * mamster has disconnected.
[movie]|20:17 K-Y says, "I would link the thing, but spoilers"
[workplace]|20:17 Allen says, "arg more work"
[movie]|20:17 Grocible says, "I saw the first Nolan film"
[movie]|20:17 Grocible says, "and thought it was okay"
[workplace]|20:17 inky says, "this work thing is bullshit dude"
[workplace]|20:17 Allen says, "I guess I'll just be eating a couple snack-bags of chips for supper tonight"
[movie]|20:17 K-Y says, "the interesting thing is that they talked about how you could go from here"
[workplace]|20:17 inky says, "don't let them sucker you into it"
[movie]|20:17 Grocible says, "lots of flashy movie violence"
[movie]|20:17 Grocible says, "didn't bother with the other two"
[movie]|20:17 K-Y says, "like, you could keep having movies *about* Batman, or just movies *with* Batman in them"
[movie]|20:17 inky says, "hmm"
[workplace]|20:17 Allen says, "already suckered."
[movie]|20:17 inky says, "the second movie is supposedly better than the first one"
[movie]|20:18 inky says, "but I dunno if it's enough better that you'd dig it"
[workplace]|20:18 Allen says, "wednesday is free day anyway. It's the day everyone else has gone downtown to eat at restaurants and sitesee"
[movie]|20:18 inky asks (of K-Y), "like the justice league coming summer 2014?"
[workplace]|20:18 inky says, "or squeegee"
[movie]|20:18 Grocible says, "I was kinda disappointed by the avengers movie"
[movie]|20:18 Johnny says, "I've heard this last one is full of bullet^W plot holes."
[movie]|20:18 Grocible says, "thought it was pretty enh"
[movie]|20:18 K-Y says, "the theory is that most Batman stories aren't really *about* Batman"
[movie]|20:18 DorianX says, "Batman seems kind of stupid in this incarnation really"
[movie]|20:19 K-Y says, "he's just a guy who moves through the story and punches guys"
[movie]|20:19 jenrexrode exclaims, "I don't wanna wait 'til 2014. I wan t Justice League Now!"
[movie]|20:19 BrenBarn says, "they're about the rapacious and pitiless folly that makes us all human"
[movie]|20:19 Grocible says, "they're about Adam West's humility"
[movie]|20:19 K-Y says, "I liked this quote"
[movie]|20:19 K-Y | Batman is too great and valuable a fictional figure to be bound by dogma and sentenced to meander through countless (and weightless) episodic "adventures."
[movie]|20:19 K-Y says, "which basically denounces 99% of all Batman stories"
[movie]|20:20 inky says, "well, it denounces comics"
[movie]|20:20 BrenBarn says, "ha ha ha"
[movie]|20:20 K-Y says, "heh"
[movie]|20:20 K-Y says, "yes"
[movie]|20:20 inky says, "or, rather, the conventional model of comics as recurring adventures about the same people"
[movie]|20:20 K-Y says, "and it was on a comics site"
[movie]|20:25 Grocible says, "I guess I'm one of those people who have no particular interest in the superhero genre, mainly because it's kind of p athetic"
[movie]|20:25 Grocible says, "all these fat or scrawny pimply nerds, dreaming about being strong and muscly"
[movie]|20:26 Grocible says, "going to the cons and getting their comics signed by actors who look nothing like them"
[movie]|20:26 Grocible says, "good looking actors who probably shit on the nerds in school"
[movie]|20:26 Johnny says, "Superheroes are mainstream."
[movie]|20:26 Johnny says, "At least in movie form."
[movie]|20:27 Johnny says, "Less so in pill form."
[movie]|20:27 Grocible says, "I really enjoyed Sandman, though"
[movie]|20:27 Grocible says, "as they felt like stories about actual people for the most part"
[movie]|20:28 Johnny says, "Sandman could be snorted, true."
[bleah]|20:29 jenrexrode says, "I hate inhaling liquids"
[lounge]|20:29 jenrexrode wanders off.
[lounge]|20:29 jenrexrode has entered the lounge. [ Your score has gone up by 10 points ]
[movie]|20:30 K-Y says, "superhero comics have gone round and round for ages but you look at them enough and, yes, it's still power fantasies"
[movie]|20:31 K-Y says, "occasionally it goes in a different direction, but they keep coming back"
[movie]|20:31 Grocible says, "yep"
[movie]|20:32 Grocible says, "boy I wish I had some magical secret superpowers so I could punish that jock who stuck my head in the toilet"
[movie]|20:32 Johnny says, "Meh. I didn't read Gotham Central because I wanted to be a lesbian cop."
[movie]|20:33 K-Y says, "really, with the morality of comics it's more like"
[lounge]|20:33 Gerynar enters the lounge but is facing the wrong way. After a couple minutes of staring at the wall, he turns around.
[lounge]|20:33 Johnny says, "Evening, Gerynar"
[lounge]|20:34 Gerynar says, "Howdy"
[movie]|20:34 K-Y says, "'if I had some magical secret superpowers I *could* stick your head in the toilet, but I won't because I am too much of a good guy to abuse power'"
[lounge]|20:35 jenrexrode says, "hi"
[movie]|20:35 K-Y says, "there's a moral power fantasy angle to it as well"
[movie]|20:35 Johnny says, "Not in "gritty" "realistic" stories."
[movie]|20:38 Grocible says, "if I were king of the universe"
[lounge]|20:39 jess's tongue says sangria, but her heart says michelada.
[lounge]|20:39 Johnny says, "Hi jess"
[movie]|20:39 BrenBarn says, "with great pimples come great responsibility"
[lounge]|20:39 jess says, "oops"
[lounge]|20:40 Johnny says, "Hello again jess"
[lounge]|20:40 jess says, "hi"
[GerynarsAbode]|20:40 Johnny asks, "How's thing?"
[lounge]|20:40 jenrexrode says, "hey"
[movie]|20:40 Grocible says, "you know it"
[movie]|20:40 K-Y says, "I keep thinking it would be nice to have a planned, long-term episodic media thing"
[GerynarsAbode]|20:40 Gerynar asks, "thing?"
[lounge]|20:40 jess says, "i opened two sites from the taskbar and it apparently opened them in separate windows"
[movie]|20:40 K-Y says, "bigger than comics, less big than movies"
[movie]|20:40 Johnny says, "mini-series"
[movie]|20:40 BrenBarn asks, "like. . . TV?"
[movie]|20:40 Grocible asks, "like televions?"
[movie]|20:40 Grocible says, "television"
[movie]|20:40 K-Y says, "not like that"
[movie]|20:41 Johnny says, "album"
[movie]|20:41 inky says, "cosplay tie-in"
[facebook]|20:42 jess says, "facebook keeps reminding me that my SIL got married.  it's kind of weird"
[movie]|20:43 K-Y says, "TV feels really variable, with the seasonal structure"
[facebook]|20:43 jess says, "on the sidebar just above the birthdays"
[facebook]|20:43 jess says, "it'd be one thing if i hadn't cleared the notification yesterday"
[workplace]|20:43 jenrexrode says, "I need to find that retractable clothes line"
[movie]|20:43 K-Y says, "it could be something on a regular schedule"
[movie]|20:43 BrenBarn says, "TV is weird because now it seems like they try ot make it less episodic and more about 'story arcs'"
[movie]|20:43 Grocible says, "thanks to Babylon 5"
[workplace]|20:43 Allen says, "ok, blowing this job for tonight. There's a concert in clayton call, Fiddle-dee-dee"
[GerynarsAbode]|20:43 Johnny says, "stuf"
[movie]|20:44 K-Y says, "I'm imagining something like an online animated serial"
[movie]|20:45 K-Y says, "of course they tried those ten years ago and nothing went right"
[GerynarsAbode]|20:46 Gerynar says, "it goes"
[movie]|20:46 K-Y says, "animation and serials seem to be two ideas currently not really fulfilling their potential"
[movie]|20:47 inky asks, "was that doctor horrible thing a serial or just a one-shot?"
[movie]|20:47 Grocible says, "a filler project during a strike"
[movie]|20:47 K-Y says, "that seemed like a - timing"
[movie]|20:49 K-Y says, "seems you couldn't really pull off episodic if you tie yourself down to these industries that run by their own clock"
[lounge]|20:51 ghira woken at 1am by work. looks like I need to go in. bleah.
[lounge]|20:51 Grocible goes home.
[lounge]|20:51 * Grocible has disconnected.
[lounge]|20:51 Grocible likes a lounge. He prefers the one at the Radisson in Minneapolis, but this one'll do in a pinch.
[movie]|20:51 Grocible says, "did dr horrible have any impact outside the fan community"
[movie]|20:51 Grocible asks, "?"
[movie]|20:52 Gerynar says, "well, it's hard for me to take Nathan Fillion seriously as a smart writer in Castle after seeing his Captain Hammer character :)"
[movie]|20:52 Johnny says, "It's the only thing of Whedon's some people have seen/liked."
[movie]|20:52 Grocible says, "hm"
[movie]|20:53 Grocible says, "it didn't particularly work for me"
[facebook]|20:53 lpsmith . o O ( You have a son in law?  Oh, wait. )
[facebook]|20:54 jess says, "oh, sorry"
[ebooks]|20:54 Jon asks, "are there any OS X epub readers that don't suck?"
[facebook]|20:54 jess says, "sister in law"
[facebook]|20:54 jess says, "heh"
[ebooks]|20:54 Jon says, "(for reference, my preferred epub reader on a tablet is Apple's iBooks)"
[food]|20:55 jess | http://cheezburger.com/6456399104
[food]|20:55 jess | Venezuelan designer Enrique Luis Sardi has created an edible cookie-esque coffee cup  for Lavazza that's lined with sugar to keep your coffee in. In other unnecessary but glorious food achievements, there now exists a hollowed-out muffin that holds chocolate fondue.
[movie]|20:56 Grocible says, "the only whedony thing I remotely got into I think would be firefly"
[movie]|20:56 Grocible says, "which I found fairly enjoyable"
[food]|20:57 Johnny asks, "Is it edible like a cookie is edible or edible like Play-Doh is edible?"
[food]|20:57 jess says, "that's a good question"
[food]|20:58 Johnny says, "Smells good, taste leaves a lot to be desired."
[food]|20:58 jess says, "ha"
[weather]|20:58 jess says, "oooh, we might get rain"
[weather]|20:58 jess says, "not putting too much money on it, it's still a ways away"
[weather]|20:59 Gerynar says, "rain would be nice"
[weather]|21:00 jess says, "it does look dark outside"
[weather]|21:00 jess says, "according to my phone it's still 97 out though"
[weather]|21:00 Gerynar says, "we might get some pop-up storms tomorrow here...not hearing that we'll get any appreciable amounts of rain though"
[weather]|21:00 jess says, "oh, weather service now says 91"
[weather]|21:01 jess says, "the co-op is having an ice cream sale for the drought"
[weather]|21:01 Gerynar says, "it's 97 here according to my phone too"
[weather]|21:01 jess says, "eep"
[weather]|21:02 jess says, "for every day we don't get 1/2" of rain they are counting 1%, and on the day it rains, whatever percentage they're up to will be the discount off of ice cream for the next week"
[weather]|21:02 Gerynar says, "that sounds pretty interesting"
[weather]|21:03 jess says, "i think they're up to 6% today.  they just started it this week, which is probably smart, because otherwise they'd be taking it half-off by the time it rains"
[lounge]|21:03 Ghogg enters the arena.
[lounge]|21:03 (From Ghogg) Provider One bids 300 quatloos for the newcomer.
[lounge]|21:04 Ghogg regreets
[weather]|21:06 BrenBarn says, "sweet"
[weather]|21:06 BrenBarn asks, "what if goes more than 100 days, will they pay you to take their ice cream?"
[weather]|21:06 jess says, "that would be nice.  it's really good ice cream"
[weather]|21:06 BrenBarn says, "heh"
[weather]|21:07 jess says, "normally $5 a quart"
[lounge]|21:12 Ghogg goes home.
[weather]|21:12 jess says, "must be raining back home, Facebook just went nuts."
[weather]|21:13 jess says, "they've got a storm warning, at least.  just on our heels, actually"
[lounge]|21:15 inky says, "ok hom"
[lounge]|21:15 inky's the ninja least likely to get hit by a car on a dark road.
[lounge]|21:29 Emily goes home.
[lounge]|21:29 * Emily has disconnected.
[lounge]|21:29 Grocible goes home.
[lounge]|21:29 * Grocible has disconnected.
[lounge]|21:29 Emily arrives.
[lounge]|21:32 Ellison arrives from the east.
[lounge]|21:32 Ellison says, "re"
[lounge]|21:32 Johnny says, "Hey Em and Ellison"
[lounge]|21:33 Doug says, "MNLSN"
[lounge]|21:33 Johnny says (to Doug), "You forgot the A"
[lounge]|21:33 Emily says, "hey"
[lounge]|21:33 Doug says, "oops"
[lounge]|21:35 Olly arrives in a puff of yellow smoke, which makes them cough.
[lounge]|21:35 Olly says, "Hello, MUDniks."
[lounge]|21:35 Johnny says, "Hi Olly"
[ollyprattle]|21:36 Olly sings, "And if the cloudbursts thunder in your ears, you shout and no one seems to hear..."
[ollyprattle]|21:38 Olly sings, "And if the band you're in starts playing different tunes, see you on the dark side of the moon."
[lounge]|21:41 jess says, "ugh, power just blinked twice"
[lounge]|21:41 jess says, "it hasn't even started raining here"
[ollyprattle]|21:42 Olly says, "Test."
[ollyprattle]|21:43 Gerynar was waiting to hear more of the lovely tune
[ollyprattle]|21:44 Olly says, "Well, that's the end of the song, but I suppose I could add earlier parts to it."
[lounge]|21:44 jess says, "make that 3.75 times"
[ollyprattle]|21:45 Johnny says, "Money next"
[lounge]|21:45 Grocible? C'est pas vrai! [French expletive]!
[lounge]|21:46 Olly says, "Hello, Grocible."
[ollyprattle]|21:47 Olly sings, "You raise the blade, you make the change, you rearrange me till I'm sane."
[ollyprattle]|21:47 Olly sings, "You lock the door and throw away the key.  There's someone in my head, but it's not me."
[ollyprattle]|21:49 Olly sings, "And if the dam breaks open many years too soon, and if there is no room upon the hill..."
[ollyprattle]|21:49 Olly sings, "And if your head explodes with dark forebodings too, I'll see you on the dark side of the moon."
[ollyprattle]|21:50 Olly says, "That is more or less singing it backwards by stanza."
[ollyprattle]|21:50 Gerynar exclaims, "YAY!"
[ollyprattle]|21:50 Olly says, "I don't know is "lovely" is the adjective I would choose."
[ollyprattle]|21:51 Gerynar offers some flies to Ivan
[ollyprattle]|21:51 Olly's toad thinks the flies are lovely.
[ollyprattle]|21:52 Olly says, "I have that song stuck in my head.  I think I'm feeling more than usually crazy today."
[ollyprattle]|21:53 Olly says, "I don't hear voices, though."
[ollyprattle]|21:53 Gerynar says, "cooler than the songs I get stuck in my head, I usually can only remember the refrain"
[ollyprattle]|21:53 Gerynar says, "if that much"
[workplace]|21:58 Allen says, "concert good. Now time for late night consorting"
[ollyprattle]|22:00 Olly says, "I want junk food."
[lounge]|22:02 McMartin says, "I find myself repeatedly commanded to acquire pants"
[lounge]|22:02 McMartin says, "LOYAL PANTSTOMATON, GO FORTH"
[lounge]|22:04 Olly asks, "Who commands you to acquire pants?"
[politics]|22:04 mwmiller says, "The crucial question the Presidential election turns on: Does Mitt Romney Have a Personality?  < http://www.gq.com/news-politics/politics/201208/mitt-romney-wells-tower-gq-august-2012 >"
[adventures]|22:05 Johnny asks, "Where are thise "Resonance now found vibrating on Steam" tweets originating?"
[politics]|22:05 Olly asks, "Is that really an important presidential qualification?"
[adventures]|22:05 Johnny says, "*the*se"
[adventures]|22:06 Johnny asks, "Oh, Destructoid, I guess?"
[weather]|22:06 jess | What sorcery is this? Water is falling from the sky!?!
[lounge]|22:06 Jota turns into a slimy toad!
[politics]|22:06 mwmiller says, "It is for an in-depth, hard-hitting investigative news magazine like GQ, yes."
[weather]|22:07 Olly says, "He he."
[politics]|22:08 Olly says, "I guess I don't know what GQ is.  That probably caused me to miss the intent of your statement."
[weather]|22:08 jess says, "i just realized the laptop has been plugged directly into the wall.  Eep."
[weather]|22:08 jess says, "lucky it hasn't gotten fried in any of these blinks"
[weather]|22:08 Olly exclaims, "!"
[politics]|22:08 Johnny says, "Gentleman's Quarterly."
[weather]|22:08 jess says, "it's unplugged now."
[politics]|22:09 Johnny says, "It's a magazine I don't read."
[politics]|22:09 Olly says, "That isn't a promising title."
[politics]|22:09 Johnny says, "It has this in common with all the magazines."
[politics]|22:10 Olly says, "I read magazines in waiting rooms sometimes."
[politics]|22:10 McMartin says, "I tend to think of GQ as basically being Vogue or Elle for men."
[lounge]|22:11 inky is a CN mercenary who will do pretty much anything for the right price (20 gp/day)
[lounge]|22:11 inky says, "zoop"
[lounge]|22:11 Olly says, "Hello, inky."
[politics]|22:11 Johnny asks, "What's Italian Vogue for men?"
[lounge]|22:11 Johnny says, "Hi inky"
[videogames]|22:13 Johnny | "There's some crazy speculative stuff. This is super nerdy, and you can tease us years from now, but as it turns out, your tongue is one of the best mechanical systems to your brain, but it's disconcerting to have the person sitting next you go blah, blah, blah, blah... I don't think tongue input will happen, but I do think we will have bands on our wrists, and you'll be doing something with your hands, which are really expressive."
[tangent]|22:13 Olly asks, "Why is it that in our day anything with "gentleman's/gentlemen's" in the title is probably slightly trashy?"
[tangent]|22:13 Johnny asks, "You want trashy?"
[tangent]|22:13 Johnny says, "Maxim, FHM."
[lounge]|22:14 Emily goes home.
[lounge]|22:14 * Emily has disconnected.
[tangent]|22:14 inky says, "there is a general principle that if you have to proclaim a title, you're probably not entitled (heh) to it"
[tangent]|22:14 Grocible says, "Lord British"
[tangent]|22:15 Johnny says, "President."
[tangent]|22:15 Olly says (to Johnny), "Yes, those are more on a level with the trashiness of what is bizarrely called a "gentlemen's club.""
[tangent]|22:15 Johnny says, "I read Esquire when I was maybe eleven."
[lounge]|22:15 Grocible says, "I am going to be staying in this fine hotel after Burning Man"
[lounge]|22:15 Grocible says, "because it is cheap"
[lounge]|22:15 Grocible says, " http://www.hotels.com/hotel/details.html?tab=description&destinationId=1450137&destination=Sparks%2C+Nevada%2C+United+States&hotelId=310699&arrivalDate=02-09-2012&departureDate=04-09-2012&rooms%5B0%5D.numberOfAdults=1&roomno=1&validate=false&previousDateful=false&reviewOrder=date_newest_first "
[tangent]|22:15 vimes says, ""gentleman's agreement" usually means "under-the-table deal to screw law-abiding poor people", it seems to me"
[lounge]|22:15 Grocible says, "the photo is somewhat misleading"
[lounge]|22:16 Grocible says, "because there aren't any miserable fat old people with oxygen tanks shoving their coins into the slot machines"
[tangent]|22:17 Olly asks, "Is that the one that sometimes has the good short stories?"
[tangent]|22:17 Johnny says, "I've only seen one issue since then."
[tangent]|22:17 Johnny says, "Might have some short stories, like Playboy or The Atlantic."
[tangent]|22:17 Olly says, "I think maybe it's Playboy that I'm thinking of."
[lounge]|22:18 Limax comes in, looking for sneaky salt shakers.
[tangent]|22:18 Johnny says, "The thing about Playboy is that it has good writing sometimes, but nobody reads it."
[tangent]|22:18 Olly says, "Heh."
[tangent]|22:18 vimes says, "which is strange, because it has really horrible pictures"
[tangent]|22:18 Olly says, "It just get's put into compilations later for the people who want to read it."
[lounge]|22:19 Olly says, "Hello, Limax."
[lounge]|22:19 Limax says, "Hello"
[lounge]|22:19 Olly asks (of inky), "Your olounge today said that you are chaotic neutral.  Is that true?"
[urls]|22:19 vimes | http://boingboing.net/2012/07/25/humiliating-giant-head-squirre.html
[lounge]|22:19 inky says, "hee hee"
[lounge]|22:19 Limax says, "He is chaotic"
[lounge]|22:19 inky says, "for 20 gp/day I will be"
[lounge]|22:20 Limax says, "Ha ha"
[lounge]|22:20 vimes says, "we have already determined that he is not neutral, he is attractive to hamstermagnets"
[lounge]|22:20 Olly chuckles.
[lounge]|22:20 Grocible says, "I always think of inky as lawful"
[lounge]|22:20 Limax says, "Nah.  HTat's who he plays on TV"
[tangent]|22:20 McMartin says, "If I remember my various SF author memoirs, Playboy was the one that paid ridiculously high rates for fiction"
[tangent]|22:21 Grocible says, "I thought that was Omni"
[hardware]|22:21 Limax says, "Bleah"
[hardware]|22:21 Limax says, "When my daughter gets on YouTube on the LInux machine, the DSL goes to pot for everyone else"
[lounge]|22:21 Olly says, "Inky "Marshal" Dillon"
[hardware]|22:21 Limax says, "Unless it's the wireless"
[hardware]|22:23 Limax says, "I tried to connect to YouTube on my iPhone and it couldn't connect"
[hardware]|22:23 Limax says, "And Netflix on the BluRay too three tries"
[tangent]|22:24 Olly says, "I read some of my roommate's issue of Cosmopolitan once.  I was shocked."
[tangent]|22:24 inky asks, "at the rates they paid for fiction?"
[tangent]|22:24 Olly says, "No, not really."
[tangent]|22:25 Olly says, "There was a lot of stuff about what men want in bed.  It may have been fiction, but I don't know how much they paid for it."
[tangent]|22:26 Johnny says, "1) Memory foam. 2) The end."
[tangent]|22:27 McMartin says, "Hooray"
[tangent]|22:27 inky says, "ha ha"
[lounge]|22:28 Gerynar says "bloop" and shrinks down into a little dot, then winks out...just like those old-fashioned B&w televisions.
[lounge]|22:28 * Gerynar has disconnected.
[tangent]|22:29 vimes says, "true, to die in bed is a noble goal"
[tangent]|22:29 Ellison says, "heh"
[tangent]|22:29 inky says, "this reminds me of http://www.thefrisky.com/photos/quiz-can-you-tell-real-cosmo-sex-advice-from-fake/ "
[lounge]|22:32 Limax walks slowly out of the room and into the sunset.
[tangent]|22:32 Olly | When your partner is masturbating you
[tangent]|22:32 Olly asks, "Does that phrase even make sense?"
[tangent]|22:33 inky says, "I've heard it before to mean 'manually stimulating', yeah"
[tangent]|22:33 inky says, "I guess strictly speaking it's not correct usage"
[tangent]|22:34 Olly says, "My computer dictionary says it can be a transitive verb.  I'm still skeptical, though."
[tangent]|22:37 Johnny says, "I'm reading computer dictionary as dictionary of computer terminology."
[tangent]|22:37 Olly will not eat frozen grapes any more.
[tangent]|22:37 Johnny says, "No need to follow-up, you won't change my mind."
[lounge]|22:39 Limax enters the lounge while talking on his cell phone.  He doesn't look where he is going and runs into the trophy case.
[lounge]|22:39 genericgeekgirl says, "Hi Limax"
[lounge]|22:39 Johnny says, "Hey Limax"
[lounge]|22:40 Limax says, "Hi"
[lounge]|22:40 Ghogg is back, slightly taller, with gigantic scars on his calves. Will you marry him now?
[lounge]|22:40 Limax exchanges his skillet for a wedding dress
[lounge]|22:41 Olly says, "Hello, Ghogg."
[lounge]|22:41 Ghogg says, "'lo"
[lounge]|22:42 Johnny says, "Hi Ghogg"
[lounge]|22:43 Ghogg goes home.
[lounge]|22:46 Limax walks slowly out of the room and into the sunset.
[videogames]|22:48 Johnny says, " http://www.baldursgate.com/ again. ~16 hours to go!"
[lounge]|22:51 Limax drives in with tires smoking and sets the lounge ablaze.
[lounge]|22:51 Limax says, "Feh"
[drwho]|22:52 Olly says, "New episode sometimes in August."
[drwho]|22:52 Olly says, "sometime"
[videogames]|22:52 Johnny says, "If you want to stare at a coundown clock for 16 hours, here's your chance."
[drwho]|22:53 Olly says, "Actually, probably "some time.""
[videogames]|22:53 zarf says, "shit man what do you think I do all day every Tuesday"
[drwho]|22:53 Johnny says, "summer time"
[videogames]|22:54 Olly asks, "Are you going to stare at a countdown clock for 16 hours, Johnny?"
[ollyprattle]|22:54 Olly says, "zarf used to be part of my channel, but now he is not."
[drwho]|22:54 Johnny says, "No, I'm just going to mention it occasionally because I'm impatient."
[drwho]|22:54 Johnny says, "ilac"
[videogames]|22:54 Johnny says (to Olly), "Short answer: no."
[drwho]|22:54 Grocible says, "new season is autumn, I thought"
[ollyprattle]|22:55 inky says, "he wanders in and out"
[drwho]|22:55 Olly says, "Maybe late August."
[drwho]|22:55 Limax asks, "Series 7 isn't on Netflix yet, but aren't they still in the middle of showing that?"
[drwho]|22:55 Grocible says, "dunno about the US though"
[drwho]|22:56 Olly says, "The most recent series was shown on the same days in the UK and US."
[drwho]|22:56 Grocible says, "makes sense"
[drwho]|22:56 Grocible says, "otherwise it just gets pirated and they lose viewer share"
[videogames]|22:57 Johnny says, "One last thing: <!-- "Evil" is a term wept by the weak and the defeated. What have I done? I have cleansed the world of a band of treacherous dogs. -->"
[drwho]|22:57 Olly says, "I'm pretty sure that's why they started doing it that way."
[drwho]|22:58 Limax says, "I can't ever remember when it's on 'live' so I just wait for some other medium"
[drwho]|22:59 Olly says, "Wiki says that "Asylum of the Daleks" will air in August 2012, but isn't more specific, which suggests that it will probably be late August."
[drwho]|23:00 Olly | it is due to contain every single Dalek that has ever appeared in Doctor Who
[drwho]|23:00 Olly says, "Yikes."
[lounge]|23:01 Limax walks slowly out of the room and into the sunset.
[drwho]|23:02 inky asks, "how many named daleks have appeared in dr who? a lot?"
[drwho]|23:04 Olly says, "I think they mean every model of Dalek."
[drwho]|23:04 Olly says, "Maybe not, though."
[drwho]|23:05 inky says, "that makes more sense"
[drwho]|23:05 inky says, "I only know about the kind that can't climb stairs and the kind that can, but I guess there are probably more than that"
[drwho]|23:06 Olly says, "Yes."
[lounge]|23:06 Ghogg utilizes his advanced knowledge of physics to enter the lounge.
[lounge]|23:06 Ghogg says, "Ok, let's try that again"
[lounge]|23:07 Olly says, "Hello, Ghogg."
[lounge]|23:07 inky says, "this time with ghogg-o-vision"
[lounge]|23:08 Grocible says, "beer ghoggles"
[lounge]|23:08 Ghogg says, "more like ghoogle ghoggles"
[lounge]|23:09 Ghogg says, "I can SEE YOUR DATA"
[lounge]|23:09 inky says, "hee hee"
[drwho]|23:09 Grocible says, "I like the ones that stop working when they roll over a rug"
[lounge]|23:10 Limax enters the lounge.  That's all there is to it.
[lounge]|23:10 (From Limax) Oh, wait...he also stubs his toe.
[drwho]|23:10 Olly says, "I like the ones that, for no easily explicable reason, speak German."
[drwho]|23:11 Ghogg says, "dear me, the olympics mini-episode sounds dire"
[drwho]|23:11 Ghogg says, "oh, it was schoolkids writing it? huh"
[drwho]|23:12 Olly says, "Not just written by a committee, but a committee of gradeschoolers."
[ollyprattle]|23:15 Olly points a whisk at Johnny.  "EXTERMINATE!"
[drwho]|23:15 Ghogg says, "well, only 3 minutes, so here goes"
[videogames]|23:16 Olly asks, "Do you know what you are waiting for, or are you waiting to find out what you are waiting for?"
[ollyprattle]|23:18 Olly sings, "Some say a man is made out of mud.  A poor man's made out of muscle and blood."
[videogames]|23:18 Johnny says, "They announce where and for how much the Enhanced Edition will sell."
[videogames]|23:19 Olly asks, "Are there only a limited number of them?"
[videogames]|23:19 Johnny says, "No."
[videogames]|23:19 Johnny says, "It's just release details."
[videogames]|23:19 Johnny says, "I'm probably too amped, frankly."
[lounge]|23:20 Emily arrives.
[videogames]|23:21 Olly says, "It appears that way to this notwe."
[lounge]|23:21 Olly says, "Hello, Emily."
[lounge]|23:29 olethros was sworn in by robed priests on Thursday morning.
[lounge]|23:29 Olly says, "Hello, olethros."
[lounge]|23:29 olethros says, "hello olly, people"
[lounge]|23:30 jenrexrode says, "hi"
[lounge]|23:30 Limax says, "Hello olethros"
[lounge]|23:33 olethros says, "just back from the conference banquet at the CN tower"
[lounge]|23:34 olethros says, "a paltry affair, for 80 bux/person (+ additional money from the sponsors)"
[lounge]|23:34 Olly asks, "Was the food good?"
[lounge]|23:34 olethros says, "the CN tower was cool, though maybe even 1 rotation/72'is too much for me"
[lounge]|23:35 olethros says, "the food was not bad, but not worth 80"
[lounge]|23:35 Olly says, "That's probably usual for such affairs."
[lounge]|23:36 olethros says, "no. I've been to conferences where the food was infinitely better for less money"
[lounge]|23:36 olethros says, "most notably, in italy."
[lounge]|23:36 Olly says, "Hum."
[lounge]|23:36 olethros says, "in pisa we had an awesome 7 course dinner with matching wines and stuff"
[lounge]|23:36 Olly says, "I went to a summer enrichment program for women in math that had really good food."
[lounge]|23:37 olethros says, "enrichment/engorgement"
[lounge]|23:37 Olly says, "Yeah, in practice."
[lounge]|23:37 olethros asks, "where?"
[lounge]|23:37 Olly says, "It was held at the Institute for Advanced Study at Princeton."
[lounge]|23:38 jenrexrode says, "but the CN tower isn't leaning"
[firstworldproblems]|23:38 genericgeekgirl says, " http://www.buzzfeed.com/donnad/14-first-world-problems-from-the-90s "
[lounge]|23:38 olethros says, "I guess the pisa dinner was an affair at a remote villa which we booked for the group, rather than at the most prominent landmark of a large city"
[lounge]|23:38 olethros says, "the leaning tower doesn't have a restaurant"
[lounge]|23:39 jenrexrode says, "that'd be cool if it did"
[lounge]|23:39 jenrexrode says, "but don't serve meatballs"
[lounge]|23:39 olethros says, "the meatball experiment"
[firstworldproblems]|23:40 Olly says, "I don't understand the one about the sweatshirt."
[firstworldproblems]|23:40 genericgeekgirl asks, "I love the guy in the comments who is all "these suck; cell phones existed in the '90s". Yes, and?"
[lounge]|23:41 jenrexrode sings, "and then my poor meat ball rolled off the 5th floor..."
[lounge]|23:41 Olly says, "Heh."
[lounge]|23:41 * ghira has disconnected.
[lounge]|23:41 * ghira has connected.
[lounge]|23:41 ghira says, "meep"
[lounge]|23:42 ghira says, "at work. at 4:41. having been called at 1am"
[lounge]|23:42 jenrexrode says, "gheep"
[lounge]|23:42 ghira says, "bleah"
[lounge]|23:42 jenrexrode says, "yuk"
[lounge]|23:42 Olly says, "Ugh."
[lounge]|23:42 olethros says, "gmrm"
[lounge]|23:42 ghira says, "I have employed _prime_ "having a go" skills to unbugger a bunch of stuff but there may be other buggered things no-one has mentioned yet so I don't think I can leave yet"
[lounge]|23:42 Ghogg goes home.
[firstworldproblems]|23:43 olethros says, "people started using cells a lot in 98"
[firstworldproblems]|23:43 olethros says, "I remember all the greeks in campus - they'd all wear the same clothes: jeans, hiking boots, puffy jacket, sun glasses, chunky cell phone strapped onto their belt"
[firstworldproblems]|23:44 olethros says, "(that was in the UK)"
[firstworldproblems]|23:44 ghira says, "I vaguely recall _some_ student at Cambridge having huge huge mobile phones when I was there in the mid 80s"
[firstworldproblems]|23:44 ghira says, "er students"
[firstworldproblems]|23:44 Olly says, "And by "greeks on campus" you mean actual Greeks."
[firstworldproblems]|23:44 genericgeekgirl says, "I didn't really know anyone with a mobile phone, other than my father, until well after 2000 or so. Certainly not teens the way it's common now."
[firstworldproblems]|23:45 Olly says, "My family acquired a phone that we kept in the car some time in the '90s."
[firstworldproblems]|23:45 genericgeekgirl says, "By 2006, though, it really really sucked to not have one, because there were no payphones left on campus."
[firstworldproblems]|23:46 ghira says, "I didn't get a mobile phone until I went on call at work"
[lounge]|23:46 ghira says, "getting here cost me 68 pounds"
[lounge]|23:46 ghira says, "I think I'll wait until work minibus starts at 7 at this point"
[lounge]|23:46 Olly says, "Oh my."
[lounge]|23:46 ghira says, "ok I can claim for the taxi since this is a work related expense"
[lounge]|23:47 ghira says, "but it's less clear getting back home for another 68 pounds is as urgent"
[firstworldproblems]|23:48 Olly asks, "Can someone explain the one about the sweatshirt that keeps falling down?"
[firstworldproblems]|23:48 jenrexrode says, "flashdance"
[firstworldproblems]|23:48 jenrexrode asks, "?"
[firstworldproblems]|23:49 Johnny says, "This "40 Things That Will Make You Feel Old" one probably sucks 100x less if you're actually about 40."
[firstworldproblems]|23:49 Johnny says, "As is, it's lame :("
[firstworldproblems]|23:50 jenrexrode says, "oh it's a guy"
[lounge]|23:51 Limax says, "Wow"
[firstworldproblems]|23:51 olethros says, "never watched flashdance so"
[firstworldproblems]|23:52 olethros says (to Olly), "yes, greeks. See, at the time, only wealthy greeks would go to the UK"
[firstworldproblems]|23:52 Olly says (to Johnny), "Remembering when technology was much different than it is now doesn't mean you are old, it is just a symptom of the rapid advancement of technology."
[firstworldproblems]|23:52 jenrexrode asks, "well if it was a girl, she had cut the collar out of her sweatshirt, so it felt off the shoulder, btu I guess guys used to tie sweatershirts around their waist when they weren't wearing them??"
[firstworldproblems]|23:52 Olly says (to olethros), "I see."
[firstworldproblems]|23:53 Johnny says (to Olly), "I was reading a different one."
[firstworldproblems]|23:53 Olly asks (of jenrexrode), "Don't they still?"
[macdev]|23:53 Hugo says, "I think I'm going to have to pay Apple to tell me why they declined my update."
[macdev]|23:53 Hugo says, "Well, I guess I get a free support issue.  One per year or something."
[firstworldproblems]|23:53 Olly says (to olethros), "In the US, "greeks on campus" could also be members of fraternities and sororities."
[macdev]|23:54 Hugo says, "I'm sure I'll never need anything like that again."
[firstworldproblems]|23:54 jenrexrode says, "i like to wear my hoodie on my head like a 8 year old"
[firstworldproblems]|23:54 jenrexrode says, "+n"
[firstworldproblems]|23:54 Olly says, "I still tie my jacket around my waist."
[firstworldproblems]|23:54 jenrexrode says, "well guys need a belt to do that"
[lounge]|23:55 Limax walks slowly out of the room and into the sunset.
[lounge]|23:55 Lucea had the olive complexion.
[lounge]|23:55 Olly says, "Hello, Lucea."
[lounge]|23:56 Johnny says, "Hi Lucea"
[lounge]|23:56 jenrexrode says, "hi"
[firstworldproblems]|23:57 jenrexrode | Didn't that go out about the same time as Member's Only jackets ?
[firstworldproblems]|23:58 Olly asks, "How are you supposed to carry it?  Around your shoulders and knotted in front?"
[firstworldproblems]|23:58 jenrexrode says, "yeah"
[firstworldproblems]|23:59 Olly says, "That makes you look like you just finished playing tennis or something."
[firstworldproblems]|00:00 jenrexrode says, "or you could roll the cuffs back like socks"
[firstworldproblems]|00:00 Olly says, "Hmph."
[lounge]|00:01 Doug goes home.
[lounge]|00:03 olethros says, "z"
[lounge]|00:03 olethros has ordered three mega-generators to be installed in his boathouse.
[drwho]|00:09 ghira says, "belatedly, there's a premiere of "asylum of the daleks" at the british film institute, with cast members and whatnot, on the 14th of august. I forgot to try to get tickets."
[drwho]|00:10 ghira says, "so I'd imagine it'll be later than that on tv"
[macdev]|00:11 Hugo asks, "The fuck?  You can no longer access Program.app/Contents/Resources directly?"
[drwho]|00:12 Olly says, "I see."
[macdev]|00:12 zarf asks, "is that a reason you heard or something you've seen stop working?"
[drwho]|00:12 ghira says, "the Pisans wrote to me about 2 days ago asking if they could still get tickets for this. no."
[macdev]|00:12 Hugo says, "Well, as I understand it, entitlements don't cause the program to stop if they're violated."
[drwho]|00:13 ghira says, "I and they should have though to buy them the day they went on sale"
[macdev]|00:15 Hugo says, "They log to console, which is what Apple uses during evaluation."
[macdev]|00:15 Hugo says, "(I may be wrong about that.)"
[drwho]|00:17 inky says, "it depends how much they're willing to offer to doctor who scalpes"
[macdev]|00:17 Hugo says, "So I get things like:"
[drwho]|00:17 inky says, "er, scalpers"
[drwho]|00:17 ghira says, "possibly"
[drwho]|00:17 inky says, "the lowest form of life anywhere in the universe"
[drwho]|00:17 ghira says, "not enough, I imagine"
[macdev]|00:17 Hugo | Fade In(677) deny file-ioctl /Users/kent/Desktop/Fade In.app/Contents/Resources/icons/highlight_yellow.png
[drwho]|00:17 ghira says, "they did burn most of their one day in London in Jan/Feb this year on a trip to a dr who exhibition"
[ollyprattle]|00:18 Olly sings, "I drank champagne from you shoe. La-la-la. I was drunk by the time I got through. La-la-la."
[drwho]|00:18 ghira says, "though this is because they said their 11 year old, as the only member of the group who had not been to London, could pick where to go. and she picked that. and a haggis restaurant."
[drwho]|00:18 ghira says, "well haggis/whisk"
[drwho]|00:19 ghira says, "er whisky. but she wasn't allowed to have whisky/"
[macdev]|00:19 Hugo says, "Presumably because it's not in ~/Library/Containers/com.generalcoffee.fadein/... (i.e., the sandbox)."
[family]|00:20 ghira says, "AB's "name day" today. so rellies will be calling."
[family]|00:21 ghira says, "(where is this a thing? Italy yes, UK notth"
[family]|00:21 ghira says, "not that I've heard"
[ollyprattle]|00:21 inky asks, "was it one of those vibram toe shoes?"
[ollyprattle]|00:21 inky says, "I bet they can hold more champagne"
[ollyprattle]|00:21 ghira says, "thigh-length boots"
[family]|00:21 Olly says, "It was my name day on Sunday."
[begood]|00:21 Johnny says, "Hm. I'd never be willing to pay $60 dollars for a game that looks like South Park, even though that's a selling point."
[drwho]|00:22 K-Y says, "I can't help but imagine that the cast will be there to act it out live"
[family]|00:22 Olly says, "I think it is a thing in predominantly Catholic or Orthodox countries."
[drwho]|00:22 K-Y says, "while trying to make all the props work manually"
[drwho]|00:22 ghira says, "that might be fun"
[drwho]|00:24 ghira says (to inky), "very belatedly individual daleks having names is pretty unusual. the "cult of skaro" daleks having them in new who was a surprise, and there were about 4 of them initially I think."
[lounge]|00:25 ghira says, "I think at this point I struggle along until about 7am and take first minibus to station"
[family]|00:25 inky asks, "the name day is the saint's day for whatever saint you're named after?"
[family]|00:25 ghira says, "yes. unless your name isn't that of any saint"
[lounge]|00:25 inky asks, "what happened? did you get up early?"
[family]|00:25 inky asks, "do you get presents on your name day?"
[family]|00:25 ghira says, "or maybe if the saint you're named after has no day"
[family]|00:25 ghira says, "maybe if you're very small"
[family]|00:26 ghira says, "I don't recall noticing it when I was in Rome"
[family]|00:26 inky says, "oh, right, you must know all about this from italy"
[family]|00:26 ghira says, "maybe it's bigger in Sicily"
[lounge]|00:26 ghira says (to inky), "phoned by work at 00:50, everything broken, had to come in."
[family]|00:26 Olly says, "I think it is traditional some places to have a kind of open house, with people stopping in to drink tea."
[lounge]|00:26 ghira says (to inky), "arrived c. 3am"
[lounge]|00:26 Recchi enters the lounge, triumphantly hoisting object #31337.
[family]|00:27 Olly says, "American Orthodox are also encouraged to go to church if possible."
[lounge]|00:27 inky says, "oof"
[lounge]|00:27 inky asks, "did you fix everything?"
[family]|00:27 ghira says, "it seems to be a moderate number of phone calls and that's it here"
[lounge]|00:27 ghira says (to inky), "not sure. seems unwise do just disappear assuming that I have"
[family]|00:27 inky says (to Olly), "man, what a scam"
[family]|00:27 inky says, "I would hold out for presents"
[lounge]|00:27 ghira says (to inky), "I've certainly fixed at least some things"
[lounge]|00:27 ghira says (to inky), "but 68 pounds for a taxi home seems enh"
[lounge]|00:28 ghira says (to inky), "even if work is paying"
[lounge]|00:28 Limax arrives.
[lounge]|00:28 (From Limax) Suddenly, a pile of bricks falls on his head.
[lounge]|00:28 (From Limax) </Limax> has disconnected.
[lounge]|00:28 ghira says, "also, and this is worse than everything being broken, taxi hit a cat on way here"
[lounge]|00:28 jenrexrode says, "wah"
[lounge]|00:28 ghira says, "so some family somewhere is now missing a ginger cat, almost certainly"
[lounge]|00:28 Limax says, "Agh"
[lounge]|00:29 zarf says, "Oh gack"
[lounge]|00:29 ghira says, "we were on a dual carriageway. this cat ran into road suddenly."
[lounge]|00:29 inky says, "aw man"
[lounge]|00:30 ghira says, "not clear there was anything driver could have done"
[lounge]|00:30 ghira says, "fortunately the road doesn't go in front of our house and the Mi (as far as we know) doesn't go very far"
[lounge]|00:31 boucher wanders in. "Adventurer's Lounge?" he says. "What's up with that?"
[lounge]|00:31 ghira says, "she makes full use of the back garden but otherwise she rarely goes more than a few feet from the house"
[lounge]|00:31 ghira says, "and there's a large green area in front of the house so on the rare occasions she goes out of front garden she's on a large car-free lawn"
[macdev]|00:32 vimes asks, "are you supposed to go through nsbundle or something?"
[supper]|00:32 jenrexrode says, "I had to get my sandwich from under the bed"
[supper]|00:32 jenrexrode says, "the dog stole it while i was in the bathroom"
[supper]|00:32 ghira asks, "was it some cheese that has been allowed to mature under beds since 1753?"
[supper]|00:32 jenrexrode says, "heh"
[supper]|00:32 jenrexrode says, "roast beef trumped her manners"
[supper]|00:32 ghira says, ""ah, yes, Tuscan under-the-bed cheese""
[lounge]|00:32 boucher says, "We lost one of our cats to a car...and after one got injured by a roving dog, we started to just keep them in"
[supper]|00:32 Limax says, "Hm"
[lounge]|00:33 Olly says, "Good night, MUD."
[lounge]|00:33 ghira says, "now that it's summer, for a few days, the Mi is sleeping outside at night"
[lounge]|00:33 Olly takes a plastic hamster ball from their pocket, steps into it, and rolls away.
[lounge]|00:33 Limax says, "Night, Olly"
[lounge]|00:33 boucher says, "They fuss sometimes, especially the one who we adopted as a stray, but overall, it's less trouble and worry for us."
[lounge]|00:33 ghira says, "but it's under a bush in the back garden. she's fine."
[supper]|00:34 jenrexrode says, "this was hours ago, now it's time for 2nd supper"
[lounge]|00:34 boucher says, "Actually we adopted three as strays, come to think of it."
[macdev]|00:34 Hugo says, "Possibly/presumably."
[lounge]|00:34 jenrexrode says, "all my pets are strays"
[lounge]|00:34 boucher says, "But the ones who were kittens when taken in probably don't have much memory of life outdoors."
[lounge]|00:34 ghira says, "the Mi was sort of a stray. she left her previous house to live in our garden for some time"
[lounge]|00:35 ghira says, "at age 7 or so"
[lounge]|00:35 zarf asks, "is 'the Mi' short for anything?"
[lounge]|00:35 zarf says, "I'm sure everybody on the mud knows this but me"
[lounge]|00:35 jenrexrode says, "yup"
[lounge]|00:35 ghira says (to zarf), "it's probably short for "Micia" which means cat"
[macdev]|00:36 Hugo says, "(Or something like that.)"
[lounge]|00:36 zarf says, "Oh. I was hoping for something more grandiose"
[lounge]|00:36 ghira says, "we refer to AB's father as "il ba", my mother as "la ma""
[lounge]|00:36 ghira says, "and indeed AB is "la bi" and I am "il bi""
[lounge]|00:36 ghira says, "so it makes sense for our cat to be "la mi""
[lounge]|00:37 boucher says, "I think micia is a lot more stylish than 'kitty', but that's probably just because I'm not Italian, so it's all exotic and foreign."
[lounge]|00:38 ghira says, "when she actually moved in with us we briefly considered giving her an actual name but decided we liked "la mi""
[lounge]|00:38 boucher says, "There was a period, and it's sort of faded now, where the second least imaginative common name chosen, specifically for orange male cats, was 'Morris'"
[housing]|00:38 jenrexrode | http://www.foundshit.com/staircase-slide-design/
[lounge]|00:38 vimes says, "ah, yes"
[lounge]|00:38 vimes says, "the 9lives cat food mascot"
[lounge]|00:39 zarf says, "Well, now I know, anyhow"
[lounge]|00:39 ghira says (to zarf), "indeed. there's not much to it really"
[lounge]|00:39 boucher says, "You could call 'Morris', and suddenly every orange cat in the neighborhood comes to the door."
[lounge]|00:40 vimes says, "or none of them do"
[lounge]|00:40 vimes says, "but you're being ignored by every orange cat in the neighborhood"
[lounge]|00:40 boucher says, "Incidentally, through a series of events that I'll only recount on #kitties, to spare the lounge, we ended up with a female cat we named Elvis.  So my mother looked crazy, standing out in our yard shouting for Elvis."
[lounge]|00:41 Petrosilius arrives from the east.
[lounge]|00:41 Petrosilius says, "Morning."
[kitties]|00:41 boucher says, "So, my mother worked at a pet store, eventually rising to become the manager."
[videogames]|00:42 zarf says, "oh, finished Quantum Conundrum. Except for the secret bonus level I guess."
[news]|00:42 ghira says, "apparently greece can't have its next slice of money"
[kitties]|00:42 boucher says, "This meant constant temptation to bring new pets home, not just cats, but she managed to limit herself.  Or rather, my father set a limit upon her."
[news]|00:42 ghira says, "I see on bbc news screen thing here at work"
[kitties]|00:42 boucher says, "She also had to care for all the ones which were ill or not suitable for ownership."
[kitties]|00:43 boucher says, "There was one male, all grey, strongly resembled a nebelung, but was not sold as purebred."
[kitties]|00:44 boucher says, "They'd received a litter of them in any case."
[kitties]|00:44 boucher says, "And they generally sold pretty quickly."
[kitties]|00:44 boucher says, "But the one male had ear mites, and was quarantined for a period before he could be sold"
[kitties]|00:44 boucher says, "Anyhow, my mother fell in love with him and decided to keep him for herself."
[kitties]|00:45 boucher says, "And she was just about to finalize it, when a customer came in and begged for him, so she let the cat go...business and all that."
[kitties]|00:47 ghira says, "handyman guy who lives in our road had 8 cats at home. one had 4 kittens and we're not sure how many of them he's keeping"
[kitties]|00:47 ghira says, "even 8 cats seems like too many for a 3-bed semi"
[kitties]|00:47 boucher says, "I think she'd decided to call him Elvis, anyhow, as she's an Elvis Presley fan, but oh well, she'd find a new cat and perhaps a new name if it was female."
[kitties]|00:48 boucher says, "So she was kinda sad for a few days, when a guy comes in with one of Elvis's sister, a female that looked almost identical.  He'd bought it for his girlfriend, who was 'allergic'.  This was a common story, people buy pets for others without telling them, and they reject the gift."
[kitties]|00:49 boucher says, ""And she decides to snap her up right away."
[kitties]|00:49 boucher asks, "But what to name her?"
[kitties]|00:50 boucher says, "On the way home, the radio played Elvis' song 'Return To Sender'"
[kitties]|00:50 boucher says, "And she thought that serendipitous, so kept the name."
[lounge]|00:50 K-Y then looked around and came to the conclusion that pretty much no one in this lounge even lifts.
[lounge]|00:50 * K-Y has disconnected.
[videogames]|00:50 McMartin says, "How was it? I've heard mixed things."
[videogames]|00:51 zarf says, "decent puzzle time"
[videogames]|00:51 zarf says, "more timing craziness than I really wanted, but not more than I could handle"
[kitties]|00:51 boucher says, "She was quite a fun cat, lots of odd quirks to go with an odd name, and took a strong shine to me.  If you ever want to hack my accounts, now you know the answer to my 'Favorite Pet' password reset question."
[kitties]|00:53 boucher says, "She often got on my keyboard until one day I sat a folding chair next to my desk, and she then happily plunked herself down there, and hardly stirred, except to occasionally paw at me if I forgot to pet her for long enough."
[kitties]|00:53 (from vimes) boucher says, "but you'll never guess the answer to 'what is my favorite colour!"
[kitties]|00:53 boucher says, "Sadly, they don't make cats in forest green."
[kitties]|00:53 boucher says, "But if they did, I'd get one in a heartbeat."
[kitties]|00:53 vimes says, "that would really be a horse of a different color"
[Infocom]|00:54 Limax says, "Interesting reviews"
[kitties]|00:54 boucher says, "It really is odd, camouflage and all that, that we haven't gotten more animals that have evolved green fur or something."
[kitties]|00:54 ghira says, "the Mi is probably ideal for us. she mostly ignores us and gets on with her nocturnal cat things"
[kitties]|00:55 boucher says, "It must just not be something nature does readily without chlorophyll."
[kitties]|00:55 ghira says, "if we go away for 4 days we just leave lots of food for her"
[kitties]|00:55 ghira says, "she won't drink inside anyway so there's no point leaving water"
[kitties]|00:55 boucher says, "Though Elvis did have a tendency to turn a little purple, which is still unique"
[kitties]|00:56 ghira says, "there are green parrots in London. apparently descended from escaped south american ones"
[kitties]|00:56 boucher says, "But that was just sun-bleaching effects."
[gdornination]|00:56 GDorn says, "man, 6k lines of scrollback"
[kitties]|00:56 ghira says, "and some reptiles and amphibians are green"
[kitties]|00:56 ghira says, "mammals... hmm"
[kitties]|00:57 boucher says, "This is true...I guess it's just mammals that have trouble turning green, at least in a non-metaphorical sense."
[gdornination]|00:57 GDorn says, "clearly ifmud is a thing I do at work, not while on vacation or at least not while moving"
[kitties]|00:58 boucher says, "Here is a complex analysis of the question: http://www.hhmi.org/askascientist/answers/20071115-195.html "
[kitties]|00:58 boucher says, "It turns out nothing is green"
[kitties]|00:58 boucher says, "At least not due to actual pigment"
[Infocom]|01:00 Limax says, "The only negative thing so far is that it's too short"
[Infocom]|01:02 Recchi asks, "What's this, now?"
[kitties]|01:02 boucher says, "But the short answer is that there are no green mammals because we had better things to do with our evolutionary energy, with the exception of being so slow that you get covered in algae, or if you happen to be a fluorescing gene freak mouse from Japan."
[videogames]|01:03 McMartin says, "Good"
[videogames]|01:03 McMartin says, "I've been in the mood for that lately, though I've just burned through a fine example and will probably take a rest first"
[kitties]|01:04 boucher says, "I admit to having slightly poor hygiene, but at least I'm not quite so bad that actual algae grows on me.  And cats are generally good at grooming, so....  I guess we have to wait for Japan to make green cats, and even then, they'll only be green under a UV lamp."
[kitties]|01:04 boucher says, "Actually, we already do have glow in the dark cats, I forgot"
[kitties]|01:05 boucher says, "Not green, but that's only a minor change, I'm sure"
[kitties]|01:05 boucher says, "Oh, damn...once again, I prove that I'm slow at the news."
[kitties]|01:05 boucher says, "We do indeed have green glow-in-the-dark cats."
[kitties]|01:06 ghira says, "some things have green eyes, at least"
[kitties]|01:06 boucher says, " http://i.huffpost.com/gen/349474/thumbs/r-GLOW-IN-THE-DARK-CATS-AIDS-large570.jpg "
[kitties]|01:07 boucher says, "(If you're curious about the word AIDS in the URL, apparently they've found the glowing gene also makes cats resistant to FIV, a cat relative of HIV)"
[Infocom]|01:08 Limax says, "Mike Berlyn's new game.  I just saw the bb tonight"
[kitties]|01:08 boucher says, "So, someday maybe we'll all glow in the dark, but at least be resistant to STDs"
[lounge]|01:10 Limax walks slowly out of the room and into the sunset.
[kitties]|01:10 boucher says, "(Insert tangent jokes here about it being easier to find a prostitute, the death of 'I like it better with the lights off', etc.)"
[drwho]|01:14 boucher says, "Extra-belatedly, I've gone in search of spoilers, so I definitely know who the next companion will be.  I'll give them a chance.  After all, I didn't think Billie Piper was going to be any good either."
[drwho]|01:16 boucher says, "Several of the coming episodes seem interesting, and I was confused by the trailer previewing the new season...I thought at first that it was for multiple episodes, but it appears it was all one episode."
[drwho]|01:17 boucher asks, "And, heh, I remember the scene from...I can't recall, was it Remembrance of the Daleks?"
[drwho]|01:18 boucher asks, "Where the Doctor first discovers they actually can climb stairs, and his face changes from one of superior mockery to surprise?"
[drwho]|01:19 ghira asks, "them being able to move around on metal in "dalek invasion of earth" was a bit of a surprise. did we find out why they didn't need the radio dishes on their backs the time after that?"
[zarfplan]|01:19 zarf says, " http://eblong.com/zarf/tmp/bomb-squad.png http://eblong.com/zarf/tmp/bomb-squad-back.png "
[drwho]|01:19 ghira says, "er move around not on metal I mean"
[zarfplan]|01:19 zarf says, "(T-shirt design)"
[zarfplan]|01:19 zarf asks, "what think?"
[lounge]|01:19 Rob comes right on in.
Recapped 1000 of 4079 lines from recent channels.
Current time: Thursday, 26 Jul 2012, 01:19:49 AM EDT
Rob says, "blzrlm"
ghira says, "robble"
[drwho] Rob asks, "they have radio dishes on their backs?"
[drwho] ghira says, "they did in dalek invasion of earth"
[qman] Rob says, "hm well, chapter 8 cover drawn, colored, and uploaded"
[qman] Rob says, "it's a start, anyway"
[drwho] ghira says, "to explain why they were able to move around on a non-metal surface iirc"
[drwho] boucher says, "I don't think so, but...well, heck, mobile phones don't have external antennas anymore either, so I guess the Daleks just learned the art of efficient internalization of power transmission."
[drwho] ghira says, "fair enough"
[drwho] boucher says, "Except..."
[drwho] Rob asks, "the series premier is an episode called Asylym of the Daleks?"
[drwho] ghira says (to rob), "yes"
[drwho] Rob says, "+e"
[drwho] Rob says, "wow huh"
[drwho] ghira says (to rob), "and the bbc was appealing for people with old dalek models to lend them to bbc for this ep"
[drwho] boucher says, "Well, the Daleks never seemed to do anything for themselves.  I don't even know how they maintained their frames.  They seemed to need Davros for everything since the slight retcon that his introduction produces."
[drwho] Rob says, "also that's .. an upsilon not a y, yeah that's it"
<Limax> On average, every human has one breast and one testicle.
[drwho] ghira says (to rob), "and of course you're not coming to london for the BFI premiere of it"
[drwho] Rob says, "and various emperor daleks"
Limax smoothly enters, like butter on a bald monkey.
[drwho] Rob says, "not unless a free ticket appears in my hand I guess not"
Rob says, "hey it's limax"
[drwho] ghira says, "well I forgot to log on on first day they were on sale so I'm not going either"
Limax says, "Yes it is"
[zarfplan] Ellison says, "I like the punchline"
Recapping 5 of 5 lines from misc/personal/zarfplan:
[zarfplan]/001 zarf says, "oh, right, the 'getting shit done' part of this plan."
[zarfplan]/002 zarf says, " http://eblong.com/zarf/tmp/bomb-squad.png http://eblong.com/zarf/tmp/bomb-squad-back.png "
[zarfplan]/003 zarf says, "(T-shirt design)"
[zarfplan]/004 zarf asks, "what think?"
[zarfplan]/005 Ellison says, "I like the punchline"
Recapped 5 of 5 lines from misc/personal/zarfplan.
Limax says, "I keep getting kicked off by my daughter on youtube"
[drwho] boucher says, "And even more belatedly, there was a link to Victorian femme Doctor Who crossplayers earlier, and I'm shocked to know this is a relatively big thing now.  I mean, to the point where, just to be original, you have to add the 'Victorian' adjective, on top of everything else."
[drwho] ghira asks, "well are we getting a return of the Victorian lesbian silurian detective in this season?"
[zarfplan] Limax says, "Nice"
[zarfplan] Rob says, "I'd personally use beefier lettering for the words 'bomb squad'"
[zarfplan] Rob says, "and maybe less line height spacing"
[zarfplan] zarf says, "could do that, I have room"
[zarfplan] Rob says, "other than that, looks good"
[zarfplan] zarf asks, "is the graph background too distracting?"
[zarfplan] Rob says, "I like the robot guys"
[drwho] boucher says, "I don't know...but that would be kinda cool."
[drwho] boucher says, "I also kinda wanted to know more about the Battle Of Zarathustra."
[zarfplan] Rob says, "nope I don't think so"
[zarfplan] Rob says, "especially since my first thought was 'what graph background?'"
[zarfplan] zarf says, "okay good"
[drwho] Rob says, "victorian femme Doctor Who crossplayers"
<mwmiller> mwmiller has connected to ifMUD.
[zarfplan] zarf says, "will mess with it more tomorrow"
[drwho] Rob asks, "where's the link?"
[drwho] ghira asks, "what is crossplaying? it's like cosplaying but different?"
[drwho] Rob asks, "gender crossed?"
[drwho] boucher says, "Yes, when I typed that, I felt a twinge of pain in my cumulative knowledge."
[drwho] Rob says, "hee hee"
[drwho] Rob says, "I went to a comic convention and there were two ladies, one dressed as 11th doctor and one dressed as tardis"
[drwho] Limax says, "Heh"
[drwho] Rob says, "she was a sexy thing"
[drwho] ghira asks, "dressed as the Idris version of the tardis?"
[drwho] boucher says, " http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6vdu32nou1r6qymio1_1280.jpg "
[drwho] Limax asks, "Which one?"
[drwho] Rob says, "nah, this was before that episode"
[drwho] Rob says, "she was just dressed as the police box"
[drwho] Rob says, "but was a very pretty girl"
[drwho] Rob says, "so she made for a fetching tardis"
[drwho] Rob says, "somewhere I can't find quickly I snapped a picture of her"
[drwho] boucher says, "Victorian is self-explanatory, crossplaying is cosplaying as the opposite gender, femme is a subset of that which suggests that, rather than a woman merely dressing up in male drag and looking as accurate as possible, instead feminizes the appearance, adding high heels or frills or turning trousers into a dress or whatever."
[zarfplan] zarf says, "(robot guys are a subtle jab at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bomberman , a joke I don't expect anybody to laugh at)"
[drwho] ghira says, "I see."
[drwho] boucher says, "And yes, this was hard-earned research, not something I just knew from being a part of the culture."
Johnny does like justice, but that's taking it a bit far.
</Johnny> Mi acetos bananon
[drwho] Rob says, "hm it's on my facebook but facebook won't let me download it and upload it again somewhere nicer to click on"
[zarfplan] Limax says, "I haen't played enough of that to get the joke"
[drwho] boucher says, "As I mentioned before, I'm the sort of person who will spend an hour trying to understand why a one-off political joke in a 30-year-old sketch comedy from a different country was hilarious to audiences of the time."
[zarfplan] zarf says, "I've never even seen it played"
[Windows] ghira says, "using jkdefrag on work computer. had never heard of it before. after about 12 hours I finally get to 100% but it's still doing something"
[drwho] Rob says, "wait yes it does. processing..."
[drwho] ghira says, "oh yeah I was going to look at that bit of NTCOCN and see if I recognised the person"
[drwho] Limax says, "She is quite cute"
[drwho] Rob says, " http://raddial.com/stuff/tardisgirl.jpg "
[drwho] Rob asks, "so do they victorianize the doctor's wardrobe?"
[drwho] ghira says, "well for first doc that would be doing nothing"
[drwho] ghira says, "pretty much"
[drwho] Rob spends awhile trying to suss out NTCOCN before giving up
[drwho] boucher says, "'Hey baby, are you free for use of public?'"
[drwho] Rob says (to ghira), "yeah"
[drwho] ghira says (to rob), "not the nine-o-clock news"
[drwho] Rob says, "oh right"
[drwho] Limax says, "Bikini tardis"
[drwho] ghira says (to rob), "which I got wrong anyway"
[drwho] Rob says, "oh sure if it'd been NTNOCN I'd've gotten it, he says blithely"
[drwho] ghira says, "undoubtedly"
[drwho] boucher says, "Yeah, I asked in another channel if there was any significance to a brief clip in which a man is struggling and waving the peace sign as he's dragged onto a plane, to the strains of BA's 'We'll take good care of you' ad jingle"
[drwho] boucher says, "Other than the irony of the song and his reluctance."
[drwho] Limax says, "Someone thought it was significant enough to film"
[drwho] ghira says, "season 3 ep 2. I made a note"
[drwho] ghira says (to limax), "well they re-used other footage and changed the soundtrack"
[drwho] Limax says, "Okay..."
[drwho] Rob says, "I thought the bobby hat on the tardis costume was a nice finishing touch"
[drwho] boucher says, "I imagine the man's identity didn't really matter, but I did wonder who he was."
[drwho] Limax asks, "That was Fahtima's second episode?"
[drwho] ghira says (to limax), "all the time. so, ok, footage of someone being dragged onto a plane existed"
[drwho] Limax says, "I can't remember where the Doctor took Dr Jones"
[drwho] Limax says, "At least not in the second episode"
[drwho] boucher says, "Shakespeare"
[drwho] Rob says, "I have totally lost touch with what you guys are talking about"
[drwho] ghira says (to limax), "I was referring to the NTNOCN episode boucher had seen"
[drwho] Limax says, "Oh.  Whoops"
[drwho] boucher says, "But yes, I was tangentializing"
[drwho] Limax says, "Silly me.  I missed the cross tangent"
[drwho] ghira says, "NTNOCN news is a tricky one to suggest to people now. I guess the "best of" stuff works well enough even 30 years on"
[drwho] Rob says, "oh ok I think that plus a little recapping explains enough context"
[drwho] ghira says, "but to watch all of it you'd need footnotes, even if you were British"
[drwho] Rob says, "there are jokes in old python episodes that are funny to me now that I never had the slightest chance of getting 27 years ago when I was seeing them the first time"
[drwho] Rob says, "so it's like hey, new jokes in old episodes"
[drwho] boucher says, "Talking about cosplaying led to me explaining the intricate terms the cosplaying culture has for various things which led to me explaining that I'm the sort of person who wants to understand irrelevant things even if it kills me which led to my mentioning wanting to understand an obscure joke from Not the Nine O'Clock News which led to discussing that."
[drwho] Rob says, "I'll take 'em"
[drwho] ghira says (to rob), "what sort of thing? Apart from U Thant, of course."
[drwho] Rob says, "these days I sort of look for the sketches I didn't like very much back in the day to see if I get the jokes now and can laugh"
[drwho] Rob says, "argh I'm forgetting again already what U Thant is all about"
[drwho] ghira asks, "I take it you'#ve seen the python sketch from NTNOCN?"
Limax says, "I'm thinking bed"
Limax waves
[drwho] Rob says, "hmmmm having trouble thinking of an example off the top of my head"
Limax walks slowly out of the room and into the sunset.
</Limax> When someone tells you to "have a nice day," tell them you have other plans.
[drwho] ghira says, "that IS essential viewing"
[drwho] Rob says, "it's not the best one but, for example, the one about the scottish poet whos work is just about skinting a few bob out of anyone he can"
[drwho] Rob says, "that's actually funnier to me now than it was then"
[drwho] Rob says, "I haven't seen even one frame of NTNOCN in my life"
[drwho] boucher says, "I've seen one other at least slightly Python-related sketch where John Cleese makes an entirely irrelevant cameo for a few seconds in a sketch, then disappears again."
[quotations] Ellison | So when he told me he wanted to be a gastroenterology, I said, “Why?” And he told me, “Well, the other day, I did this colonoscopy and it was like playing video games with somebody’s ass.” He just thought that it was awesome. When he said that, it gave me the ending of my book.
[drwho] ghira says (to rob), "well perhaps not but I think you'd appreciate their python sketch"
[drwho] Rob says, "I just saw cleese for the first time in a while appearing in yet another advertisement"
[drwho] ghira says, "which is definitely on youtube"
[drwho] Rob says, "but it was authentically cleesian in performance and execution, so it was ok to see him shilling again"
[quotations] Rob says, "hooray"
Field set.
[drwho] boucher says, "FWIW, subtitles might be a bit annoying, but http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asUyK6JWt9U "
[drwho] Rob says, "there's some gilliam quote where he mutters that cleese specializes in taking jobs where he makes a great deal of money for doing very very little work"
[drwho] ghira says (to rob), "NTNOCN had a sketch about the fuss over "life of brian" and re-staged a TV interview about how terrible "life of brian was" as the same thing but about how shocking  a film called "life of python" was"
[drwho] boucher says, "For contect, The Life of Brian had just come out, and there was some fuss about whether it was unnecessarily taking the piss out of...timing"
[drwho] Rob says, "in the documentary on the life of brian disc there's both cleese and chapman basically painting the portrait of gilliam as a neanderthal"
[drwho] Rob says, "chapman saying they were flying over the ocean, and gilliam pointed out the window and said, 'hey look guys, a whole bunch of water' "which just about tells you all you need to know" about terry gilliam"
[music] Allen says, "oh yeah. OH YEAH"
[drwho] Rob says, "cleese saying that he has only two modes: (gilliam imitation voice) 'that's really great' and 'that really pisses me off'"
[music] Allen says, "where else but conclave"
[drwho] Rob says, "I was thinking about all this while watching 'Lost in La Mancha' the other day"
[music] Allen says, "1am in the morning, playing consorts, and it turns out there are THREE barak normal bass viols in the room"
[music] Allen says, "er, norman"
[music] Allen says, "barak norman"
[music] Allen says, "the viol equivalent of Antonio Stradivari"
[music] Allen says, "one of them is the oldest extant Norman, a 1687"
[drwho] Rob says, "in which, moreso than in previous viewings, I formed the impression of terry gilliam as being an unconscionable neanderthal clown who had giant boulders in his head, rather than mere rocks"
[drwho] (from ghira) ..rob says "It was _real_ good"
[drwho] Rob says, "hee hee"
[music] Allen says, "And and and.... we got to play on them!"
[music] Rob says, "I wish I understood enough of what you are talking about to be as excited as you are about what you're saying"
ghira says, "ok packing up to go home and sleep"
Rob says, "gnight"
ghira says, "no way am I staying here until 4pm"
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[music] Allen | http://www.violine.at/norman.html
Rob says, "where was he? and why was he there at ten til seven in the morning"
[music] Allen says, "probably the only more important viol maker in history was John Rose"
[music] Rob says, "wow dig the 1997 website design"
[music] Rob says, "heh cello with a leading apostrophe"
[music] Rob says, "hm what does 'cello' mean"
[music] Allen says, "yeah, you know cello is an abbreviation"
[music] Rob says, "I'd ask ghira but he just bugged out"
[music] Allen says, "violoncello"
[music] Allen says, "it means "small violone""
[music] Rob says, "yeah just appreciating that only someone really into old instruments would be formal enough to be pedantic about the apostrophe"
[music] Rob says, "ahh. wait, so how freaking big was a violone"
[music] Allen says, "they varied, but between 80cm and 110cm string length"
[music] Rob says, "actually looking back I guess 'the viol equivalent of stradivari' was enough context"
[music] BrenBarn says, "just like sagbutt refers to a saggy butt"
zarf says, "At work, and some horrible work emergency"
Rob says, "blah"
Rob says, "one of those Allen type deals"
[music] Allen says, "though stradivari made a few viols"
Rob says, "so naturally he bugged out instead of working again through another full work day"
zarf says, "Yes"
Rob says, "ok"
[music] Allen says, "and a few guitars"
Rob says, "ow the mosquitos are eating me"
Rob says, "I'd just ignore it but my mother decided to let me know today that mosquitoes carring dengue fever are around lately"
Emily says, "doh"
Rob says, "it's my fault for liking to MUD outside now that it's summer"
[TV] boucher says, "Now I've ended up watching Mr. Bean again."
[music] Allen says (to Rob), "here's a to-scale violone! http://www.flickr.com/photos/36205049@N00/253247815/ "
[TV] Rob says, "mm"
[TV] Rob says, "I only watched the series episodes once upon a long ago"
[music] Allen says, "(they're actually here. I got a picture of Ken & Barbie)"
[TV] Rob says, "I was researching everything richard curtis ever wrote"
[TV] boucher says, "I've realized he has the qualities of an Internet 'troll'."
[TV] Rob says, "heh. howdymean"
[music] Rob says, "how was it to play these instruments"
[TV] boucher says, "Well, I once described him as a malevolent Pee-Wee Herman"
[TV] Rob says, "he means well"
[TV] Rob says, "though he does more damage"
inky says, "yawn zz"
Rob asks, "inky was here?"
inky's the ninja least likely to get hit by a car on a dark road.
</inky> In my opinion they would be worse than yoga pants, because yoga pants are called "yoga pants"
[TV] boucher says, "In that he often annoys or does stupid things to people for no reason other than amusement."
[TV] Rob says, "hm yeah"
[TV] Rob says, "I've seen the two Bean movies much more recently"
[TV] Rob says, "maybe they softened his character a bit by then"
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[TV] Rob says, "that is kind of trollish"
[TV] boucher says, "Like the one where he makes great effort to race up a flight of stairs in a hotel, pushing the button on each floor, so a man is stopped only to find nobody there.  Except on one floor, where he lingers in the doorway for a moment and then runs away, then waits carefully on the destination floor, just so the man knows for sure that he was being screwed with."
[TV] Rob says, "heh."
[TV] Rob says, "yeah ok that fit"
[TV] Rob says, "s"
[music] Allen says, "the 1718 one was extremely resonant through the whole range"
[music] Allen says, "it was unusual, having a violin-shaped body (though with c holes) and a carved belly and back"
[music] Allen says, "the early one had a weak middle, but a sweet top"
[music] Rob asks, "c holes?"
[music] Allen says, "the 3rd, I didn't play"
[music] Allen says, "instead of f holes"
[music] Allen says, "the holes beside the bridge"
[music] Rob says, "I like my women like I like my norman viols, carved belly, weak middle, but a sweet top"
[music] Allen says, "hee"
[music] Rob asks, "those holes have notes?"
[music] Allen says, "they're named for the shape"
[music] Rob says, "oh! ok"
[music] Allen says, "violin ones are shaped like f's, viols like c"
[music] Allen says, "sometimes you see "flame holes""
[music] Allen says, "which is a wavy shape"
[music] Rob says, "chee I did not know that"
[music] Rob says, "I know the f-shaped holes in violins"
[music] Rob says, "though I never thought of them as stylized f's before now"
Whizzard entered the lounge. This time there was a brief pause before the mass wailing recommenced. Whizzard? What kind of people were in control of this MUD? The crying took on a bitter and disillusioned tone.
[music] Rob says, "also I clearly didn't stare enough at your viol when you had one a year ago"
Rob says, "whizz-o"
Whizzard says, "robble"
[whiz-games] Rob says, "I watched The Money Pit last night, while remembering it's one of your favorites"
[whiz-games] Whizzard stretches.
[whiz-games] Whizzard grins.
[whiz-games] Rob says, "liked it better than I did back in the day"
[whiz-games] Rob says, "the slapstick timing is cracking good"
[whiz-games] Rob says, "and all the performances are really fun"
[whiz-games] Whizzard says, "If you just want slapstick, it's top shelf/"
[whiz-games] Rob says, "yeah, and who does / who did  that any more"
[whiz-games] Rob says, "also that moment after the bathtub crashes through the floor and tom hanks can do nothing but laugh, I matched his laughter"
[music] Allen says, "ok, 2am, time for bed"
[whiz-games] Whizzard says, "Yeah, I love that bit."
[whiz-games] Rob says, "I hope he didn't have to do too many takes of that, but they got the best one"
[music] BrenBarn says, "stop staring at his viol, his eyes are up here"
[whiz-games] Rob says, "he's got this whole delicate slow burn build of losing his mind about the place, building from scene to scene"
[whiz-games] Whizzard exclaims, "Yes!"
[whiz-games] Rob says, "tricky when you film out of order and stuff. I credit the director with some of that"
[whiz-games] Whizzard says, "It starts to destroy him and his marriage."
[whiz-games] Rob says, "yeah"
[whiz-games] Rob says, "just a little more every scene"
[music] jenrexrode says, "before tonight, Rob only knew of a holes"
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[whiz-games] Whizzard says, "And each incident is bigger, and bigger, and bigger."
[music] Allen says (to brenbarn), "oh, hold on"
[music] Rob says, "ha ha both"
[music] Allen says (to BrenBarn), "the perfect picture for that statement: http://www.flickr.com/photos/85186760@N00/317966033/ "
[whiz-games] Whizzard says, "My other favorite is the trapped in the rug scene."
[whiz-games] Rob says, "(when he's stuck in the rug) 'Is that you?'    '"Is that you?" hckk hahahhh gkkk'"
[whiz-games] Rob says, "timing"
[whiz-games] Rob says, "he does a lot of funny hand acting while he only has his hands and face to use"
[music] Allen says, "(this photo was used in the 2006 vdgsa calendar)"
[music] BrenBarn says, "ha ha"
[whiz-games] Whizzard says, "I mean, it's actually a really horrifying scenario, but it comes across as hysterical."
[music] Allen says, "john mark makes some cute comments in response to other comments, below"
[whiz-games] Rob says, "and then she tugs on the rug and he falls, and there's this perfectly timed             pause          before you hear him land"
[whiz-games] Whizzard says, "Yes."
[whiz-games] Rob says, "hee hee hee"
[music] Allen |
[whiz-games] Whizzard says, "Long enough to clearly hurt, but not so much you're like, oh shit, he's dead."
[music] Allen says, "oh well, didn't paste. Too tirede. Going to bed"
[whiz-games] Rob says, "anyway, hoo boy. wanted to let you know I appreciated watching it"
[whiz-games] Rob says, "also, I don't think I ever saw the first 20 minutes much of ever. I always started watching it (on cable) like a half hour in"
[whiz-games] Whizzard says, "Excellent. I truly love that movie. One of my favorite slapsticks."
[whiz-games] Rob says, "made a few things make more sense"
[whiz-games] Rob says, "some of which happen in the last 2 minutes"
[whiz-games] Whizzard says, "Me and some friends actually were talking favorite movies Monday night."
[whiz-games] Rob asks, "did you mention it?"
[whiz-games] Whizzard says, "Money Pit didn't come up, cuz it's not top 3 for me, but it's top 10 or so."
[snacks] jenrexrode says, "grits"
[whiz-games] Rob says, "I was just watching a week or so ago one of my favorite movies, My Favorite Year, and just last night noticed Richard Benjamin directed both of them"
[whiz-games] Whizzard says, "I expounded a lot on Shawshank Redemption's perfect ending."
[whiz-games] Rob says, "mmm"
[whiz-games] Rob says, "another Shawshank guy eh"
[whiz-games] Rob says, "Shawshank comes up on a lot of people's top lists"
[whiz-games] Whizzard says, "I fucking love that ending."
[whiz-games] Rob says, "the very very ending or the whole morgan freeman out of prison epilogue"
[whiz-games] Whizzard says, "From role call."
[whiz-games] Whizzard says, "When he's missing."
[whiz-games] Whizzard says, "And you're like, oh shit, he's hung himself."
[whiz-games] Rob says, "mm"
[whiz-games] Whizzard says, "I also mentioned Oh Brother where art thou"
[whiz-games] Rob says, "muh hair!"
[whiz-games] Whizzard says, "Damn! We're inna tight spot."
[whiz-games] Whizzard says, "And the other movie I mentioned was Joe vs. the Volcano."
[whiz-games] Rob says, "the coen brothers seem to see george clooney as a very funny guy"
[whiz-games] Rob says, "ahh, joe vs the volcano"
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[whiz-games] Rob says, "a classically overlooked hilarious movie"
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[whiz-games] Whizzard says, "On some level, it's my personal anthem, almost."
[whiz-games] Rob says, "it's tragic to suffer a brain cloud"
[whiz-games] zarf says, "I seem to recall some discussion where a Coen explained that they put Clooney in Oh Brother because they wanted the stupidest-looking actor they could find"
[whiz-games] Whizzard says, "Hahaha"
[whiz-games] Rob says (to zarf), "hahh hah yay"
[whiz-games] Whizzard says, "Whenever I feel really bad about my life, I watch Joe."
[whiz-games] Whizzard says, "I just find it very uplifting and reinvigorating."
[whiz-games] Rob says, "hm I wish I had that on hand. I'm kind of in the mood for that"
[whiz-games] Whizzard says, "It might be netflixy."
[whiz-games] Rob says, "yeah alas I'm not netflixy"
[whiz-games] Whizzard nods.
[whiz-games] Whizzard says, "After those 3, my top 10 get hazier."
[whiz-games] Whizzard says, "Money Pit's in there, Hudsucker Proxy..."
[whiz-games] Whizzard says, "Amelie flirts with my top 10."
<Gunther> I like above all the railway vehicle! I love baseball after! I also cast magic ball!
Gunther apparently summons the Ruins of Old Magincia onto the Town of New Magincia, crushing everyone beneath piles of completely inexplicable towers.
[whiz-games] Rob says, "a decade ago I figured out a top 10 list I could say just to answer the question, but my tastes have morphed from my 30s to my 40s"
Gunther says, "morn"
Tale enders. Dammit!
[whiz-games] Rob says, "so now I'd have to start over"
Gunther says, "I just had to pop in quickly to bask in the schadenfreude"
Gunther | Zynga Inc (ZNGA.O), the social gaming company, slashed its 2012 earnings outlook after its second-quarter results badly missed Wall Street's targets, sending its stock plunging more than 40 percent to a record low
Tale says, "good morning"
[whiz-games] Whizzard says, "Heh. I haven't really bothered with a concrete top 10."
[whiz-games] Rob says, "I'm not as into the things I was into when I was 12, which is what formed the basis of my top movies list for 20 years"
[bummer] BrenBarn says, "I bit my tongue something fierce this evening"
jenrexrode says, "hi T & G"
[whiz-games] Rob says, "it's like I'm a new guy who needs his own list from scratch"
[bummer] Rob says, "bummer"
[bummer] BrenBarn :C
[whiz-games] Whizzard nods.
[bummer] Rob says, "I bit my tongue two days ago and it's still vexing me at mealtimes"
Gunther says, "and now I'm back out to head to work"
[whiz-games] Whizzard says, "I actually did the bulk of my movie watching years ago."
Gunther, Geoffrey, and Shamino all represented various aspects of Garriott: his ego, his ego, and his ego, respectively
</Gunther> I can't even bring myself to leave these forums because I feel like I'd be doing the world a great disservice by not criticizing this game at every possible opportunity I can.
[whiz-games] Rob says, "and since I'm perceived as a movie guy I have to really think about it"
[whiz-games] Whizzard says, "So like, it kind of ossified for me."
[bummer] BrenBarn says, "bummer"
[whiz-games] Rob says, "yeah I thought I was at that point but in the past year I've caught a few more things that I hadn't yet seen that I probably should've, and I have to re-evaluate having seen them"
[jendoodle] jenrexrode says, "turns out yogurt from Feb went bad"
[jendoodle] Rob says, "shocking"
[jendoodle] Rob says, "don't eat old yogurt !!"
[jendoodle] jenrexrode says, "esp when it turns from white to pink"
[jendoodle] Rob says, "weagh"
[TV] boucher says, "Another thing I notice is how cheap they were"
[jendoodle] jenrexrode says, "Apr yogurt still looks good, but it hadn't been opened untilI was checking it."
[TV] Rob asks, "which they which?"
[TV] boucher says, "The producers of Mr. Bean"
[TV] boucher says, "At the time, it was a considerable cost to hire actors, as Equity, the UK actors guild, had considerable power in those days, and demanded fees that most TV producers were eager to avoid, since they had very limited budgets."
[TV] boucher says, "The rule was, as is typical, that speaking parts must be unionized, but others can be taken from anywhere."
[TV] boucher says, "So Mr. Bean strove, as much as possible, to be a silent comedy"
[TV] Rob says, "hah, to save money. classic"
[TV] Rob says, "the thing I appreciate about rowan atkinson is that he can do silent comedy and high-level verbal comedy both"
[TV] Rob says, "maybe he's an acquired taste, but he's smart and talent"
[TV] Rob says, "ed"
[TV] Rob says, "I didn't realize how verbally skilled he was until I saw blackadder 2 - 3 - 4, and those shows blew my mind"
[TV] Rob says, "and made me laugh a lot"
[TV] boucher says, "No, I definitely think so.  And if you read up on him, you learn that, even if he plays prat parts a fair bit, he's exceptionally intelligent.  I mean, Mensa-like, makes me feel out of my depth in the presence of the Emeritus Professor of Everything, knows the entire history of the world sort of intelligent."
[TV] Tale says (to rob), "I didn't care much for Mr. Bean, but I loved what I saw of Blackadder"