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ifMUD
An interactive real time social network chat bulletin board
quotebook url database with a parrot bot
Copyright 1997-2007 by Loungent Technologies, a wholly owned subsidiary of
rec.[arts|games].int-fiction; All rights reserved.
Release 4 / Serial number 990908 / perlMUD v2.1z
    "The characters were mostly of the cardboard cutout variety.
    I wanted to punch everyone except the one Scottish guy."
         --Jearl
  NOTE: Whenever a fix or enhancement is in place, it will be announced
  on the channel '#mud-updates'.
  OTHER NOTE: There is a mailing list where people can say things like
  "hey, the mud's down, what's up with that?" In fact, since this is
  the only thing the list is used for, you should join it if you are
  interested in this subject. To join, go to
    http://groups.google.com/group/ifmud/
  or talk to Steve.
Robinson Manor
A gracious, welcoming, airy space. Music drifts in from unseen speakers. A picture window on the southern wall provides a pleasant source of light and a sense of openness.
You can see: teleporter, a picture window, comfy sofa, Jeopardy podium, buzzer1, buzzer2, buzzer3, Jota greets Rob, fake_Robb_Sherwin
Visible Exits: west, east
<Rob> There is no other option for the world than to invade America and dismantle the lasers, send them through a time portal, and repurpose them as vibrators for dinosaurs. I?ve invented much of this."
No new channels have been created since your last check.
Adventurer's Lounge
Candles on the wood-panelled walls create a comfortably dark atmosphere. Hand-drawn maps are taped to nearly every surface -- the walls, the ceiling, the trophy case in the corner. Seating is plentiful. A small storage closet is to the north.
You can see: new laundry list, Birthday Calendar, magic laundry list, blank banner, Even Newer World Map, charset sampler, Automeeter, TheMasterTheorem player names, time zones, MUD Client Wish List, battle.net battletags, madlibs, Anything Finder, Sarcasm Detector, Gene Ray
Players: Alex, markm, Touchy, small, DorianX, Ryan, GDorn, jpt, vimes, Bishop, Dave, Jon, Allen, Otis, ctmiller, baf, marc, Matthew, vaporware, Marktwo, zaphod, Whizzard, maga, boucher, Hugo, K-Y, Psmith, annabianca, ghira, genericgeekgirl, DavidW, borowski, BrenBarn, Johnny, jenrexrode, dfabulich, Grocible, Fang, Ellison, Gerynar, Lucea
Visible Exits: north, west, southwest, southeast, up, east
Rob comes right on in.
Recapping 700 of 2789 lines from recent channels:
[lounge]/12:28 inky is a CN mercenary who will do pretty much anything for the right price (20 gp/day)
[lounge]|12:28 inky says, "good morning"
[lounge]|12:29 inky says, "or afternoon as some people might put it"
[lounge]|12:29 inky goes southwest to play with toys.
[tangent]|12:33 Fang asks, "what does the measurements actually mean?"
[tangent]|12:33 DavidW says, "Bust, waist, hips, in inches."
[tangent]|12:34 DavidW says, "Don't know unless you try."
[tangent]|12:34 DavidW says, "ilac"
[Windows-sux]|12:36 Fang says, "oh windows file transfer dialog, how I hate you"
[Windows-sux]|12:36 Fang says, "you are your time remaining estimate flipping randomly between 'about 15 seconds' and '6 hours'"
[Windows-sux]|12:36 Fang says, "*you and your"
[headlines]|12:39 boucher | Aurora police chief: No other "person of interest"
[headlines]|12:40 boucher says, "Literally.  Slow news day."
[Windows-sux]|12:41 ghira says, "doesn't it do "15 million years" any more? that was fun"
[Windows-sux]|12:41 ghira says, "I recall, probably many years ago, estimates that were truly comical"
[Windows-sux]|12:47 Gunther says (to Fang), "I recommend Teracopy"
[Windows-sux]|12:47 Gunther says (to ghira), "nothing will ever beat Norton Backup's "Insert disk 6/5""
[Jotacabana]|12:51 Gunther says (to Jota), "#ultrabelated this is also why people make fun of others who say "I played 200/500/... hours of Diablo 3 and it's such a boring game""
[Jotacabana]|12:52 Gunther says, "because name another *thing* that gives you 200/500/... hours of entertainment for $60"
[Jotacabana]|12:52 Gunther says, "and if it was 500 hours of boredom, re-examine your priorities, and jump off a cliff."
[lounge]|12:53 Tale enders. Dammit!
[lounge]|12:53 Tale goes southwest to play with toys.
[videogames]|13:00 Jota says, "Heh, this physics game seems to use a rather cartoonish version of physics."
[videogames]|13:00 inky says, "ha ha"
[videogames]|13:00 inky says, "like the one where people don't fall until they look down? I love that one"
[videogames]|13:01 Jota says, "There is a large fan in the floor. It's strong enough to lift light, fluffy objects intot he air. But it's not strong enough to lift the player into the air."
[videogames]|13:01 Jota says, "So the solution is to stand on top of a light, fluffy object while the fan is blowing it up."
[videogames]|13:02 inky says, "hmm"
[videogames]|13:02 Gunther says, "ah, Dark Souls Physics"
[videogames]|13:02 Jota says, "(An NPC does admit later to bafflement at how this could work.)"
[videogames]|13:03 inky says, "ha ha"
[videogames]|13:03 Gunther says, "(you're carrying one of each armor. If one's too heavy as you wear it and slows you down, just put on a lighter one)"
[videogames]|13:03 inky says, "ha ha more"
[videogames]|13:03 Jota says (to Gunther), "Ha ha."
[videogames]|13:03 Jota says (to Gunther), "Something tells me that your game is not actually *meant* to be humorously cartoony."
[videogames]|13:04 Gunther says, "definitely not, no"
[videogames]|13:04 Gunther says, "it's still better than Ultima 9's physics, where you can drop items mid-air and they stay there and you can jump on them and build endless bridges that way"
[lounge]|13:13 zarf walks off through the wall; pale violet light flares briefly around him.
[twitter]|13:20 Johnny (to dfan) ( It means pancakes. They sell like pancakes.
[movie]|13:31 * Gunther has joined the channel.
[movie]|13:31 Gunther says, "oh jesus"
[movie]|13:31 Gunther | Harrison Ford ...Colonel Hyrum Graff
[movie]|13:32 Gunther | Ben Kingsley ...Mazer Rackham
[movie]|13:32 Gunther says, "why do you hate America"
[lounge]|13:33 Dave says, "morning"
[movie]|13:34 Dave says, "Kingsley might not be bad for Rackham"
[movie]|13:34 Dave says, "I'm not sold on Ford for Graff"
[movie]|13:34 Gunther says, "why are they making movies of stuff writen by a bigoted fucknut"
[movie]|13:34 Gunther says, "is the real problem here"
[movie]|13:35 Dave says, "I pictured Richard Crenna for that part"
[lounge]|13:35 Tale arrives from the Toyshop, dazzling you with hot yo-yo action.
[movie]|13:36 Dave says, "well, that's a different story"
[board-games]|13:38 Gunther says, "new worst game name"
[board-games]|13:38 Gunther says, ""Racial Wars""
[board-games]|13:39 Tale asks, "What kind of game is that?"
[movie]|13:39 Dave says, "whoa - thing is already in the can...post-production"
[board-games]|13:40 inky says, "it's a board game"
[movie]|13:41 Gunther says, "it's certainly in the can, IYKWIM"
[board-games]|13:41 Gunther | Racial Wars is the first Polish fantasy card game, designed by ?ukasz Kozak
[movie]|13:41 Fang asks, "what movie?"
[board-games]|13:41 Gunther | The War of Races takes place in Ithilion world and 12 different races and 1 neutral race take part in it. The goal is to conquer the opponent?s residence or to eliminate his leader from the battlefield
[movie]|13:41 Gunther says, "Ender's Game"
[movie]|13:41 Fang says, "oh"
[movie]|13:42 Fang asks, "who plays Ender?"
[movie]|13:42 Fang asks, "Shea Leboeuf?"
[movie]|13:42 Gunther says, "some nobody"
[board-games]|13:42 Tale says, "What a unique game idea"
[movie]|13:42 Gunther says, "Asa Butterfield"
[lounge]|13:42 Fang arrives from the Toyshop, dazzling you with hot yo-yo action.
[board-games]|13:43 Fang asks, "so what's up with the 1 neutral race?"
[movie]|13:44 Gunther | Yung Swizz'Agg ...Sammy
[videogames]|13:44 K-Y says, "Ys: The Oath in Felghana"
[videogames]|13:44 K-Y says, "it is rather hard on normal"
[movie]|13:44 Gunther says, "Yung. Swizz'Agg."
[movie]|13:44 Fang says, "I guess http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Asa_Butterfield.jpg has the necessary snottiness"
[videogames]|13:46 Gunther says, "heh"
[videogames]|13:46 Gunther says, "Y:O was juuuust right on Very Easy"
[videogames]|13:46 K-Y says, "I already got the achievement for dying 10 times on the same boss"
[videogames]|13:47 K-Y says, "I think I have actually run out of the stamina necessary to beat the second boss"
[videogames]|13:47 Gunther asks, ""Consult A FAQ Already"?"
[videogames]|13:47 K-Y says, "yes"
[videogames]|13:47 K-Y says, "it was necessary on the second boss because I had missed the item needed to charge magic attacks"
[videogames]|13:48 Gunther says, "oh, ow"
[videogames]|13:48 Gunther says, "I had a few moments of WTF resulting from my inattention"
[videogames]|13:55 K-Y says, "I kept trying to figure out how to dash in order to avoid attacks"
[videogames]|13:55 K-Y says, "before realizing that the game doesn't give you dash until later"
[videogames]|13:55 Gunther says, "I got double jump near the end of the gamr"
[videogames]|13:55 Gunther says, "game"
[videogames]|13:56 Gunther says, "making the Metroid jingle even more appropriate"
[videogames]|13:56 K-Y says, "hah"
[videogames]|13:56 K-Y says, "(great, now GameFAQs is 503'ing)"
[Windows]|13:56 Johnny says, "This EULA is full of RTF control codes."
[videogames]|13:57 Gunther says, "I also started Origin with the unlockable character and I have NO idea how to play them"
[videogames]|14:00 K-Y says, "apparently that is the only way to get the true ending"
[videogames]|14:00 Gunther asks, "for Origin?"
[board-games]|14:00 Jacqueline says, "Sorry, I just need to say this to test something on my client regarding the way this channel is presently colored."
[videogames]|14:01 K-Y says, "yes"
[videogames]|14:01 Gunther says, "why do people still do true endings"
[videogames]|14:03 Gunther says, "I'm amazed you found ANYTHING on Origin at all"
[news]|14:05 Johnny asks, "Can we have #"news"?"
[news]|14:05 Johnny | Fire officials in California say at least 21 people were treated for burns after attendees of an event for motivational speaker Tony Robbins tried to walk on hot coals.
[news]|14:06 Gunther says (to Johnny), "#journalism is it"
[news]|14:07 maga asks, "did someone get the wrong sized coals or something?"
[news]|14:07 Gunther says, "forgot the shoes"
[news]|14:08 Johnny | Robbins Research International said in a written statement that 6,000 attendees of the event walked across the coals Thursday.
[news]|14:09 maga says, "if you get 6,000 people to climb a ladder, you'd probably get 21 injuries"
[board-games]|14:16 Whizzard says, "Hee hee."
[board-games]|14:16 Whizzard says, "Did that the other day."
[news]|14:16 Gunther asks (of Fang), "#belated what drives them to neutrality?? Is it lust for power?"
[news]|14:16 Gunther says, "er, ilac"
[board-games]|14:17 Gunther asks (of Fang), "#belated what drives them to neutrality?? Is it lust for power?"
[seattle]|14:17 maga | 4 results for 'nerderville'
[news]|14:17 Johnny says, "Fair enough."
[lounge]|14:19 Miseri regularly eats multiples of things inky wouldn't eat more than zero of.
[lounge]|14:19 Miseri says, "arrr"
[cooking]|14:19 Miseri says, "Okay.  Butter cookies are OMG easy."
[cooking]|14:19 Miseri says, "Also, OMG delicate."
[cooking]|14:19 Gunther says, "slice butter into slices, eat"
[cooking]|14:20 Miseri says, "I hope they survive the journey."
[lounge]|14:21 Ellison arrives from the east.
[videogames]|14:25 * Dave has joined the channel.
[videogames]|14:25 Dave asks, "anyone play fifa 12?"
[videogames]|14:30 Gunther says (to Dave), "I think you're the first person I've actually heard of playing a sports game on the MUD at all"
[lounge]|14:30 Jacqueline says, "... rgb555 (231), gray0 (232) ... gray23 (255)"
[lounge]|14:30 Tale is fired from breathing.
[lounge]|14:30 * Tale has disconnected.
[lounge]|14:30 Jacqueline says, "er"
[lounge]|14:31 Lucea had the olive complexion.
[lounge]|14:32 Gunther says, "LucEA"
[videogames]|14:32 Dave says, "that's what I thought"
[videogames]|14:32 Dave says, "I play Madden with Ben, but we just bought the soccer game"
[videogames]|14:33 Dave says, "so the girls could play"
[videogames]|14:33 Dave says, "but we can't figure out how to play 2 on 2"
[lounge]|14:35 Miseri is very disappointed in you.  Earlier, he may have ransacked your office, but he is *very* disappointed in you.
[lounge]|14:36 Petrosilius goes home.
[lounge]|14:37 Miseri regularly eats multiples of things inky wouldn't eat more than zero of.
[lounge]|14:37 Miseri says, "arrr"
[lounge]|14:38 Fang is told of the death of Christ, and becomes so angry that the brain bursts from his head, and he dies. The blood from the wound baptises him as a Christian, and his soul goes to heaven.
[lounge]|14:46 genericgeekgirl enters the Lounge in search of her pal Foot Foot.
[lounge]|14:47 DavidW arrives from the Toyshop, landing in a heap after being flung from the Sit 'n' Spin.
[lounge]|14:47 borowski arrives from the Toyshop, landing in a heap after being flung from the Sit 'n' Spin.
[lounge]|14:47 inky arrives from the Toyshop, pursued by a Stomper 4x4.
[whiz-games]|14:47 Whizzard stretches.
[whiz-games]|14:48 Whizzard says, "Mrfle. Woke up to parents calling."
[geekiness]|14:49 genericgeekgirl says, "#tangent Sadly, this is why my hair is no longer purple."
[geekiness]|14:52 borowski asks, "Because of bleach damage?"
[geekiness]|14:52 Johnny asks, "Because of salad?"
[vimesical]|14:55 vimes says, "here, let me give you one more thing to test"
[vimesical]|14:55 vimes says, "type:"
[vimesical]|14:55 vimes | /load ~/.tf/chancolortest.tf
[vimesical]|14:55 vimes says, "this will spew out fake channel output in every basic/bold/bright color combination"
[college]|14:57 ghira says, "ok. pisa university open week moved from oct to feb this academic year"
[google]|14:57 DorianX says, "grr"
[google]|14:57 DorianX says, "It is literally impossible to search for "foo bar" and ten "foo""
[geekiness]|14:58 genericgeekgirl says, "Yeah. Where bleach means hydrogen peroxide, not chlorine. But it's used to lighten the hair before applying bright unnatural colours."
[lounge]|15:03 Jacqueline waves and makes an isquiesque departure for home.
[whiz-games]|15:05 Whizzard asks, "So, what are folks up to today?"
[whiz-games]|15:06 ghira says, "finding out I'm not going to pisa in sep/oct but some Pisans may come here"
[whiz-games]|15:06 inky says, "law of conservation of pisans"
[whiz-games]|15:06 Gunther says, "were celebrating grandma's 95th"
[lounge]|15:06 * boucher has disconnected.
[lounge]|15:06 * boucher has connected.
[lounge]|15:06 * Marktwo has disconnected.
[lounge]|15:06 * Marktwo has connected.
[whiz-games]|15:06 Gunther says, "she got a Kindle, on which she is reading The Complete Sherlock Holmes, in English."
[whiz-games]|15:06 ghira says (to inky), "and it also solves the problem of how to get the Pisans their annual insanity pepper fix. they can buy them here."
[lounge]|15:07 BrenBarn busta.
[lounge]|15:14 Ellison says, "csb"
[lounge]|15:14 Ellison goes back to Squeamhurst..
[lounge]|15:14 * Ellison has disconnected.
[lounge]|15:19 olethros has ordered three mega-generators to be installed in his boathouse.
[npr]|15:21 borowski says, "Interesting debate about fracking on Intelligence^2."
[whiz-games]|15:26 Whizzard says, "Heh"
[whiz-games]|15:26 Whizzard says, "Nice."
[whiz-games]|15:30 Whizzard says, "Mmhm. I need to do laundry."
[lounge]|15:30 Ellison arrives from the east.
[lounge]|15:30 Ellison says, "re"
[lounge]|15:32 olethros was sworn in by robed priests on Thursday morning.
[ultima]|15:40 Gunther says, "it is truly impressive how this game manages to KEEP GETTING WORSE"
[ultima]|15:43 borowski asks, "So bad it's good or just so bad it's bad?"
[ultima]|15:43 Gunther says, "so bad it's the worst"
[lounge]|15:45 Tale enders. Dammit!
[tale]|15:45 Tale says, "Nothing like shaving off your stubble after a few days of being sick."
[questions]|15:46 Tale | There is also a competition called Herbtslaub for German language games. Quest fully supports creating games in German, so why not give it a go if it?s a language you speak ? prizes so far are a Matchbox car (for all participants) and a 7? vinyl single, which already sounds more exciting than the couple of books that were on offer last year.
[videogames]|15:46 boucher says, "I'm still slowly working my way through Mass Effect 3...I notice Elcor in the distance on an inaccessible level of this nightclub.  I wasn't aware they partied."
[questions]|15:46 Tale says, "Hm...no #quest, it seems."
[videogames]|15:46 boucher says, "I suppose it might sound something like, 'Boisterously, I am partying.'"
[questions]|15:47 Nitku says, "#wacky-if"
[questions]|15:47 Johnny says, ""#adrift #tangent""
[questions]|15:47 DavidW says, "heh. Except Quest is different than Adrift. Honest."
[questions]|15:47 Gunther says, "#qwest"
[questions]|15:48 Tale says, "Anyway, he's saying Twisty little passages and Aaron's Book are exciting."
[videogames]|15:48 Gunther says, "yeah no idea"
[questions]|15:48 Tale says, "er, aren't"
[videogames]|15:48 Gunther says, "what you're even talking about"
[questions]|15:49 Johnny says, "I wouldn't say they're exciting."
[questions]|15:49 DavidW says, "well, I have yet to finish reading Twisty. It's interesting, but I can't really read much of it at a time."
[questions]|15:49 Johnny says, "Interesting, useful."
[questions]|15:49 Nitku says, "to be fair Twisty Little Passages is a bit dry"
[questions]|15:49 Tale says, "Both were signed editions."
[questions]|15:49 Johnny says, "That's neat, but ... nope, fight or flight instinct not kicking in."
[questions]|15:50 Johnny says, "Good prizes though."
[questions]|15:51 Ellison asks, "Aaron's book being the how-to-write-in-I7 one?"
[questions]|15:51 Ellison asks, "or did he do a game theory book when I wasn't looking?"
[questions]|15:51 Johnny says, "Yeah, but there's more general IF authorship stuff in there."
[videogames]|15:52 boucher says, "There's a slow ponderous race of aliens in the Mass Effect universe that look something like the ass end of two elephants glued together, and they speak in a neutral monotone, with their emotional state apparently too subtle to be detectable by other species.  So they preface most things with an explicit word to explain it."
[questions]|15:52 Tale says, "no, i was shamelessly plugging i7 in my own competition"
[questions]|15:53 Ellison says, "I want to get a hold of a 'how to write adventure games' book written by Peter Killworth (the guy behind the REAL Doom trilogy) back in the 80s. I'm curious what kind of things he had to say."
[videogames]|15:53 Gunther says, "sounds like a gimmick that gets tiring after approximately 5 minutes"
[questions]|15:53 Johnny asks (of Tale), "Do you use Jerks?"
[questions]|15:53 Jacqueline says, "I would welcome a #quest channel and think one should be made."
[videogames]|15:54 boucher says, "They didn't make much of an appearance in the first two games, and I'm not exactly anticipating them to play a huge role in this one either."
[questions]|15:54 Jacqueline asks, "Are you thinking of entering this, Tale?"
[questionablecontent]|15:54 * Ellison has joined the channel.
[questions]|15:54 Jacqueline says, "I'm thinking the next time we so a NLS I want to try Quest."
[videogames]|15:54 Gunther says, "see also: u9 gargoyles"
[questions]|15:54 Johnny asks (of Tale), "Or *sigh* GerX?"
[questions]|15:54 Jacqueline says, "And I'm thinking of doing another NLS, but not until the autumn."
[questions]|15:54 Tale says (to Jacqueline), "Herbstlaub is the comp I'm organizing"
[questions]|15:55 Tale says, "I was put off by the wording here, but judging from your guys reactions, my reaction was off"
[questions]|15:55 Jacqueline says, "Oh, ah."
[questions]|15:55 Ellison says (to Tale), "you organized that? I wondered how you won!"
[questions]|15:55 Tale says, "The only way to win is to organize!"
[questions]|15:55 Jacqueline says (to Ellison), "You are so good at impersonating a person who is a douchebag sometimes."
[questions]|15:55 Jacqueline says, "It's really something."
[questions]|15:56 Ellison says, "thanks, I try"
[questions]|15:56 Nitku says, "It's not who votes that counts etc"
[questions]|15:57 Johnny (to Tale) | http://ifiction.pageturner.de/inform7/
[questions]|15:57 Johnny says (to Tale), "This. I'm asking if you use this."
[questions]|15:57 Tale says, "Dude, please. I even have their t-shirt."
[weather]|15:58 DavidW says, "huh. Sudden rainshower."
[questions]|15:58 Tale says, "I've used it. The code hurts my head, because it needs to be in "Denglisch""
[videogames]|15:58 boucher says, " http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5USn_CT_DpY "
[videogames]|16:00 Gunther says, "s/minutes/seconds"
[questions]|16:00 DavidW says, "I suppose one might invent a German to Denglisch preprocessor."
[questions]|16:01 Ellison says, "oh yeah, New Language Speed-IF. I forgot what NLS stood for."
[hardware]|16:01 DorianX asks, "what's the generic name for the kind of connector on a pair of headphones?"
[hardware]|16:01 DorianX says, "I usually call it a "stereo" connector but that seems ambiguous"
[hardware]|16:01 DorianX says, "Also, some of them are not stereo"
[hardware]|16:01 DorianX says, "I mean a name for the form factor"
[questions]|16:01 Lucea says, "haha"
[hardware]|16:01 Gunther says, "3.5mm plug"
[hardware]|16:02 DorianX says, "Yeah, but some of them are smaller"
[hardware]|16:02 DorianX says, "and some are bigger"
[questions]|16:02 Tale says, "Ha ha"
[questions]|16:02 Tale says, "Well, Baltes made a german TADS library"
[questions]|16:03 Johnny asks, "Is it called GADS?"
[questions]|16:03 Tale says, "G-TADS"
[questions]|16:03 DavidW says, "There's an R-TADS for Russian."
[hardware]|16:04 DorianX says, "ALso, objects on the stack is a dumb idea"
[hardware]|16:04 DorianX says, "ilac"
[questions]|16:05 Johnny says, "Rtads has no hyphen."
[questions]|16:05 Johnny says, "And it looks like it's being maintained!"
[questions]|16:05 DavidW says, "oops, sorry"
[questions]|16:05 Johnny says, "RTADS 2.5.14."
[questions]|16:07 Johnny | Tutorial: Step-by-step creating of puzzle «About wolf, goat and cabbage»
[questions]|16:08 Johnny says, "I guess chickens aren't as popular in Russia as they are here."
[questions]|16:08 DavidW says, "One of these years I should invent an IF language in JSON format and call it Jester, perhaps."
[questions]|16:16 Tale asks, "So, back to my original inquiry: Nobody thinks the wording is kind of odd?"
[questions]|16:17 Ellison asks, "wait, there was a question up there?"
[questions]|16:17 DavidW says, "I would not characterize Twisty as 'exciting' and I've never read Aaron's book."
[questions]|16:17 Gunther says (to Tale), ""7' vinyl" sounds more exciting than "book""
[questions]|16:18 Nitku says, "yeah, I'm pretty sure he meant that"
[weather]|16:18 DavidW says, "my. Rain is more assertive."
[questions]|16:18 Ellison says, "but yeah, anyone who is really proud that they are offering a 7" vinyl record as a prize is sure to be a bit weird"
[DustWorld]|16:19 DavidW says, "I think I'll go see what temp and time frame my frozen lasagna requires."
[videogames]|16:19 K-Y says, "argh third boss"
[questions]|16:19 Tale says, "These are all the Herbstlaub prizes"
[questions]|16:21 Ellison says, "well, I'm not saying it's a bad prize. I just seem to recall there's some IF community denizen who gets really excited when 7" vinyl records get thrown in to the mix. I swear something like this happened some other year, too. maybe it was a Quest minicomp."
[questions]|16:22 Gunther asks, "what is on the vinyl?"
[questions]|16:22 Johnny says, "Maybe an unnecessary dig at two good books, but nod "odd" especially."
[videogames]|16:22 K-Y says, "I should really get a gamepad for this kind of thing"
[videogames]|16:22 Gunther says, "you're not playing with a controller? yow"
[videogames]|16:22 Gunther says, "I can't even begin to imagine"
[questions]|16:23 Tale says, "A single from Stadtgorillas band"
[questions]|16:23 Ellison says, "hmm, maybe it's the same thing. I don't remember what the other thing was."
[videogames]|16:24 K-Y says, "same for Bastion"
[windev]|16:24 vaporware says, "Oh hey, VisualHG."
[videogames]|16:24 Gunther says, "and for Trine"
[windev]|16:24 Gunther says, "ohoho"
[movie]|16:25 boucher says, "#idiotic-overreactions 'Official figures were not released by movie studios for the first time box office watchers could remember, as the companies withheld weekend results in deference for the shooting victims.'"
[movie]|16:25 Gunther says, "..."
[movie]|16:25 boucher says, "That's it.  We need to stop using numbers.  After all, a number of people died."
[movie]|16:25 Gunther says, "..."
[movie]|16:25 Gunther says, "furthermore, ..."
[movie]|16:26 Gunther says, "A more appropriate reaction would be to never let Michael Bay, M. Night Shyamalan and George Lucas make movies again, and throw out Ender's Game."
[movie]|16:27 Hugo says, "It's not that big of an overreaction.  It's a pretty sensible PR move."
[movie]|16:28 Gunther asks, "because, what, Batman lost out to Adam Sandler by 20 people?"
[movie]|16:29 Johnny says, "I didn't even know any other movies opened this weekend."
[movie]|16:30 boucher says, "I don't know.  I remember feeling this way after 9/11 when everyone decided to pretend the WTC never existed, retroactively attempting to erase it from the public consciousness.  I hate when we give more weight to things by calling attention to them by conspicuously dancing around them and avoiding their mention."
[movie]|16:30 Johnny asks, "'everyone'?"
[movie]|16:30 Alex says (to Johnny), "Awwwk! Word on the street is that everyone is laughing it up on #adam-sux again."
[lounge]|16:30 Johnny arrives from the Toyshop, Baywatch Barbie perched on a convenient shoulder.
[movie]|16:31 Gunther says (to boucher), "see also blotting out 'fuck' in songs, drawing more attention to it"
[lounge]|16:31 jenrexrode has entered the lounge. [ Your score has gone up by 10 points ]
[lounge]|16:31 jenrexrode says, "hi"
[lounge]|16:31 Johnny says, "Hi jen"
[movie]|16:31 boucher says (to Johnny), "Yes, everyone.  Including you.  You're guiltiest of all.  You personally re-edited all media in the world, after all."
[movie]|16:32 boucher says, "Oh wait.  Hyperbole."
[movie]|16:32 Hugo says, "I think the point may be that the focus on box office results is sort of ridiculous, to begin with, and to be saying 'it's tragic what happened' at the same time you're saying 'but look at all the money we made woo!' is not the brightest PR move, and there's very little downside to just laying low."
[movie]|16:32 Gunther asks (of Hugo), "would anyone even have NOTICED the numbers?"
[movie]|16:32 Gunther says, "(Nope)"
[movie]|16:32 Hugo says, "Well yeah, that's the point."
[movie]|16:32 Johnny says, "I don't remember anyone doing that."
[movie]|16:33 Johnny says, "I *do* remember the footage of the attack being played over and over."
[movie]|16:33 Gunther says, "Spider-Man"
[movie]|16:33 boucher says, "Yeah, my point is that it feels like not releasing the number is making a bigger deal of things than releasing them would have done."
[movie]|16:33 Gunther says, "brouhaha about Gangs of New York"
[movie]|16:33 Hugo says, "It's all over the popular entertainment press, every week, on the radio, in newspapers, magazines, websites, #1 at the box office this week was Captain Rubberpants for the second week in a row..."
[movie]|16:34 Hugo says, "Why people who aren't in the business care is a little beyond me."
[movie]|16:34 inky says (to boucher), "but in a way where nobody can accuse them of being insensitive, so it's a win-win"
[movie]|16:34 Gunther says (to Hugo), "we don't."
[questions]|16:34 Ellison says, "turns out the full title of the book I mentioned is 'How to Write Adventure Games for the BBC Microcomputer Model B and Acorn Electron,' so it is not the book of early game theory that I was hoping it was."
[movie]|16:34 boucher says, "As if the movie company is sort of wailing out in mourning and lying a big wreath at the box office."
[movie]|16:34 Hugo says, "But I guess the competition/ranking aspect of everything has become so prevalent that it's *all* a little beyond me."
[movie]|16:34 K-Y says, "I hear about it every week unavoidably"
[movie]|16:34 Hugo says (to Gunther), "You say 'we' as if the numbers are not reported, like I said, everywhere."
[movie]|16:34 Gunther asks, "like, what is Batman's Klout score? What is Bane's?"
[movie]|16:35 Ellison says, "I also think not releasing it was a good move"
[movie]|16:35 Gunther says (to Hugo), "yes. I do not read them or look them up"
[movie]|16:35 Gunther says, "it's easy!"
[movie]|16:35 Hugo says, "Ellison, you've got a future in this town."
[movie]|16:35 Ellison says, "as long as there are overpasses to sleep under, sure!"
[movie]|16:36 Hugo says, "(They're on the radio in my car.  They're listed in a column down the sides of websites I visit.  If my wife dares stop on Entertainment Tonight or Extra, before I can grab the control away from her, they're talking about it.)"
[movie]|16:36 Hugo says, "There's that one guy that stands outside my house in my tomatoes and yells them."
[movie]|16:36 K-Y says, "I suppose it helps not to have TVs, or cars, or wives"
[movie]|16:37 Hugo says, "It is a solid argument against."
[movie]|16:37 boucher says, "I'm not saying it's a bad PR move, really.  I guess, I just hate PR in general."
[movie]|16:37 inky says, "or tomatoes"
[movie]|16:37 Gunther says, "this is why I hate tomatoes HTH"
[movie]|16:37 boucher says, "Because the public is generally stupid over things like this, and pandering to them isn't helping."
[movie]|16:38 boucher says, "I similarly think it's stupid that Obama's headed there.  Because clearly, we need personal presidential leadership at a time like this."
[movie]|16:38 boucher says, "It's not enough for him to just write a condolence card.  No, he needs to visit in person."
[movie]|16:38 Gunther says, "THAT is because of Romney and his shitflingers"
[movie]|16:39 boucher says, "Anyhow </bitterness>"
[movie]|16:40 K-Y says, "not pandering to the public is great if you don't need anything from them any time soon"
[movie]|16:40 Hugo says, "Yes, the necessity to 'spin' things is ridiculous and unfortunate.  But the reason is because unfortunately most people aren't very smart."
[movie]|16:40 Hugo says, "Not en masse, certainly."
[hardware]|16:40 * jenrexrode has joined the channel.
[questions]|16:40 * jenrexrode has joined the channel.
[movie]|16:41 Gunther says, "the correct answer is to stop pandering and educate people"
[movie]|16:41 Gunther says, "not make everyone and -thing dumber"
[movie]|16:41 Hugo says, "And it's naive to think that if you want to get something done -- like getting re-elected, or maintaining a positive profile for your business -- you don't need the support of 'most people'."
[movie]|16:41 Gunther says, "also, to ban the NRA for good and fire all its members into the sun"
[movie]|16:41 Johnny asks (of Gunther), "With what, a gun?"
[movie]|16:41 Hugo says, "It doesn't make them dumber.  And if you have any suggestions for making people smarter, I suggest that's only because you've never tried to."
[movie]|16:42 inky says (to Johnny), "ha ha"
[movie]|16:42 Gunther asks (of Hugo), "is the MPAA releasing the numbers normally?"
[movie]|16:42 Hugo says, "It isn't the MPAA; the studios do."
[movie]|16:42 Gunther says, "ok"
[movie]|16:42 Gunther says, "because I can think of maybe one company with a worse public profile than the MPAA"
[movie]|16:42 Hugo says, "The studios release essentially estimates of their week(end) grosses."
[movie]|16:43 Hugo says, "And then all the news outlets rush to report them, and sometimes there are adjustments as the real numbers come in, especially when two films are close to #1."
[movie]|16:43 Hugo says, "Because there is arguably an economic benefit to actually being #1, given the amount of attention paid to box office receipts."
[movie]|16:43 Gunther asks, "and you seriously think that releasing numbers this week would have changed anything whatsoever?"
[movie]|16:43 Gunther asks, "anything? at all?"
[movie]|16:44 Hugo says, "I think that there is a portion of the public that might frown on it, sure."
[movie]|16:44 Hugo says, "And news commentary that might revolve around it being gauche to celebrate making millions of dollars when people are dead."
[movie]|16:44 BrenBarn says, "what they should have done is say 'our box office take this weekend for the batman movie was $87,872,365.45*'"
[movie]|16:44 Ellison says, "also, while the shooting isn't going to stop people from seeing the movie, I imagine there was -some- impact on ticket sales, so they might want to keep quiet, at least for a bit, that the movie didn't do quite as well as expected."
[movie]|16:45 BrenBarn says, "'*it would have been $87,872,417.45, but we refunded the tickets of the people who got shot'"
[movie]|16:45 Ellison says, "ha ha"
[movie]|16:45 Hugo says (to Ellison), "(Very little.  'Unofficial' numbers have leaked, and it did very well.)"
[movie]|16:45 Hugo says, "(i.e., very much what best estimates put it at)"
[movie]|16:46 Ellison says, "well, still, it was a good PR move that covered their asses."
[movie]|16:46 Hugo says, "And -- call it insincere, or silly, or whatever -- but there has been *positive* covered of the fact that B.O. numbers aren't bein celebrated.  So there's a net benefit."
[movie]|16:46 BrenBarn says, "I agree it's stupid, but it's just one more stupidity in the endless line of bullshit stupidity that people do to cover their asses and make facades of goodness while continuing to engage in covert badness"
[movie]|16:47 Gunther says, "END THIS WORLD IN FIRE"
[movie]|16:47 Hugo says, "Well, come on: not everyone working at every job everywhere is an evil, money-grubbing asshole."
[lounge]|16:47 dfabulich enters the lounge in a perfectly ordinary way.
[movie]|16:47 BrenBarn says, "it's people's own fault for being placated by dumb doggie biscuits like this while continuing to support the overall operation"
[lounge]|16:47 Johnny says, "Hi dfab"
[movie]|16:47 Hugo says, "Although magically put them together in a 'corporation' and they become so."
[lounge]|16:48 dfabulich says, "hi"
[lounge]|16:48 dfabulich leaves ifMUD without any non sequiturs at all.
[science]|16:49 Johnny | http://www.nature.com/news/artificial-jellyfish-built-from-rat-cells-1.11046
[lounge]|16:49 dfabulich enters the lounge in a perfectly ordinary way.
[lounge]|16:49 dfabulich says, "let's try that again"
[lounge]|16:50 Hugo says, "You can't tell us what to do."
[science]|16:50 Johnny | Bioengineers have made an artificial jellyfish using silicone and muscle cells from a rat’s heart. The synthetic creature, dubbed a medusoid, looks like a flower with eight petals. When placed in an electric field, it pulses and swims exactly like its living counterpart.
[wildlife]|16:51 Tale asks, "Do animals who have no natural enemies know fear of other living things?"
[movie]|16:51 Ellison says, "I think aspiring to a facade of decency is better than only accepting true decency, since you're going to be able to break down every organization into some component that you have problems with. like, actors are notoriously vain people, but that's not going to stop me from enjoying movies."
[movie]|16:51 K-Y says, "I'm not sure you are going to be able to make people cease to be placated by things that they view as positive"
[wildlife]|16:51 vimes says, "sure, people feel afraid all the damn time"
[movie]|16:51 K-Y says, "well, I guess you could try being angry all the time"
[wildlife]|16:51 vimes says, "i'm not sure that's quite what you meant"
[politics]|16:52 Bishop | Johnson disagreed and argued that the assault weapons ban, which expired in 2004 and banned high-capacity magazines, actually made things worse in the Aurora shooting. ?If a responsible individual had been carrying a weapon, maybe, maybe they could have prevented some of those deaths, some of those injuries,? he said.
[politics]|16:52 Bishop asks, "Is he seriously claiming that he would reasonably expect a law-abiding citizen, if it were lawful, to tote an assault rifle to the movies?"
[politics]|16:52 maga says, "Ta-Nehisi Coates has a good thing about this"
[politics]|16:53 maga says (to Bishop), "and body armour"
[lounge]|16:53 Ellison says, "ok, gotta go. later!"
[lounge]|16:53 Ellison goes back to Squeamhurst..
[lounge]|16:53 * Ellison has disconnected.
[politics]|16:54 maga says, "but, yes, a crowded room of startled people with automatic weapons is not exactly going to lower your body count"
[movie]|16:55 boucher says, "We had a bit of a mention on #news that it's possible to relate almost anything to anything.  So in theory, any sort of even tangential happiness or celebration might be seen as inappropriate here.  'It's my birthday today!  We went out to see The Dark Knight Returns.'  'Oh good!  That must have been fun for you.  ...wait, sorry.  That was tasteless of me to be happy for you going to a movie, considering the...unfortunate news.'"
[wildlife]|16:55 Tale asks, "Is there any animal an elephant can be afraid of?"
[wildlife]|16:56 Gunther says, "mouse, man"
[lounge]|16:56 * Hugo has disconnected.
[lounge]|16:56 * Hugo has connected.
[politics]|16:56 K-Y says, "and if the body count is not lowered, that just means that law-abiding people are not investing enough in tactical combat education"
[wildlife]|16:56 Gunther says, "lion"
[lounge]|16:56 Iain hasn't been here since April, I'm starting to get worried.
[wildlife]|16:56 borowski says, "I saw a nature show where a pride of lions took down an elephant."
[lounge]|16:56 Iain says, "Evening"
[questions]|16:56 * borowski has joined the channel.
[movie]|16:56 Hugo says, "Or maybe I am wrong, entirely, because God just struck down my router (and everything else) with a bolt of lightning."
[movie]|16:57 Gunther says, "Nah, that was for XCode."
[movie]|16:57 Gunther says, "now make sure to not anger me any further."
[English]|16:57 Gunther says, "note to potential rappers:"
[lounge]|16:58 inky says, "hey hey"
[English]|16:58 Gunther says, ""ME RAPPING" should always be spelled with two Ps."
[lounge]|16:58 Firion enters the lounge. How unseemly!
[lounge]|16:58 Firion goes southwest to play with toys.
[lounge]|16:58 Firion arrives from the Toyshop, Baywatch Barbie perched on a convenient shoulder.
[questions]|16:58 borowski says, "Most animals need to fear members of their own species to some extent."
[questions]|16:58 borowski says, "ilac"
[wildlife]|16:58 borowski says, "Most animals need to fear members of their own species to some extent."
[movie]|16:59 K-Y says, "I would venture to say that it is possible to know what is appropriate and what is not for most people"
[movie]|16:59 boucher says, "I found Gunther's joke particularly tasteless.  My father died in an XCode accident.  *runs off crying*"
[movie]|17:00 Gunther says, "that wasn't a joke."
[movie]|17:00 vimes says (to boucher), "i kill people with xcode every day.  did i say people? i meant bugs."
[science]|17:00 Johnny says, "This is pretty cool."
[science]|17:01 Gunther says, "I wonder why rat"
[science]|17:01 Johnny says, "Cheaper than mice."
[science]|17:01 Gunther asks, "why not jellyfish?"
[science]|17:01 vimes says, ""guys, guys, i made an artificial jellyfish out of a jellyfish""
[science]|17:02 vimes says, ""how'd you do that?" "killed it and then wired it up to power""
[science]|17:02 Gunther says, "(holds up shitty papercraft model)"
[movie]|17:02 boucher says, "Also, I guess we all have our ways of dealing with things that are disturbing.  I do tend to take the head-on #tasteless route, because that's how I cope with the fact that the world is pretty crappy a lot of the time.  If I don't laugh, or at least give things a middle finger and carry on, I might actually never stop crying."
[science]|17:02 Gunther says, "mmm, Frankenjelly"
[science]|17:02 vimes says, "and his compatriat, Peanutbutterstein"
[science]|17:02 Gunther says, "together, they sandwich"
[science]|17:03 vimes says, "i was going to say "fight hunger""
[science]|17:03 vimes says, "but i like yours better"
[science]|17:03 Johnny says (to vimes), "That assumes something would eat them."
[science]|17:03 Gunther says, "guys, guys, I made peanut butter out of a jellyfish"
[i-am-an-idiot]|17:03 borowski says, "#joinchannel recapc"
[i-am-an-idiot]|17:04 Johnny says, "Joining #recapc is just begging for miscommands."
[science]|17:04 vimes says, "haha"
[i-am-an-idiot]|17:04 Johnny says, "As is joining #joinc for that matter."
[i-am-an-idiot]|17:05 Jacqueline says, "@recapc is there for both the masochists and the sadists, to be fair."
[jacq-chat]|17:05 Jacqueline says, "Okay, of to role playing soon.  Better get ready."
[jacq-chat]|17:05 Gunther says, "oo"
[jacq-chat]|17:05 vimes says, "break some imaginary legs."
[i-am-an-idiot]|17:05 borowski says, "Hopefully it will encourage accurate typing skills."
[jacq-chat]|17:05 Iain says, "Not if you're role-playing a serial procrastinator."
[jacq-chat]|17:06 inky says, "oh yeah"
[science]|17:06 Johnny | Although this is impressive, it doesn't really qualify as "building a jellyfish" because this Medusoid cannot reproduce. Ergo it's not a viable living organism
[science]|17:06 Johnny says, "Thank you, only commenter."
[science]|17:06 Johnny says, "That really needed saying."
[science]|17:06 Gunther asks, "also unable to reproduce: those zebra-donkey hybrids?"
[science]|17:06 Johnny says, "zonkeys"
[science]|17:06 Gunther says, "ha ha"
[science]|17:07 Gunther says, "furthermore, the commenter"
[science]|17:07 inky says, "ha ha"
[jacq-chat]|17:07 Firion says, "Have fun, Jacqueline."
[science]|17:08 Johnny says, "ha ha"
[science]|17:09 Gunther says, "next, they will cross the Medusoid with Orly Taits so it actually turns people to stone."
[science]|17:09 Gunther says, "er, Taitz"
[sleep-deprivation]|17:09 jenrexrode says, "ugh, work tomorrow is going to be rough.  I think I stayed up until 6am today."
[science]|17:09 Gunther says, "wait, I think I just found out who the commenter is"
[science]|17:09 Gunther | Scientists at Stanford University and the J. Craig Venter Institute have developed the first software simulation of an entire organism, a humble single-cell bacterium that lives in the human genital and respiratory tracts
[science]|17:10 Gunther says, "also this excellent headline"
[science]|17:10 Gunther | Fracking science comes under criticism as scientists question motives
[science]|17:10 Gunther says, "Fracking: the science that keeps on giving"
[sleep-deprivation]|17:12 Lucea says, "ugh, sorry to hear"
[sleep-deprivation]|17:12 Johnny asks, "Does tomorrow mean tonight?"
[sleep-deprivation]|17:13 jenrexrode says, "I have to be at work by 930am Monday"
[sleep-deprivation]|17:13 jenrexrode says, "I'm thinking about taking 2 benedryl about 11pm"
[lounge]|17:14 olethros has ordered three mega-generators to be installed in his boathouse.
[lounge]|17:14 * Marktwo has disconnected.
[lounge]|17:14 * Marktwo has connected.
[lounge]|17:14 * boucher has disconnected.
[lounge]|17:14 * boucher has connected.
[lounge]|17:14 olethros was sworn in by robed priests on Thursday morning.
[lounge]|17:14 olethros says, "helllo"
[lounge]|17:14 jenrexrode says, "hi"
[lounge]|17:16 * Marktwo has disconnected.
[lounge]|17:16 * Marktwo has connected.
[Canada]|17:18 jenrexrode says, "so in a day of Toronto coincidences, as I was going to sleep, I was watching a show about snipers, and it was about a hostage incident in Toronto. The other things were 'My Cat from Hell' trivia about Sphinx cats, and #tv talking about Maury Chaykin dying there."
[sleep-deprivation]|17:18 borowski asks, "Your sleep schedule is off?"
[science]|17:19 Johnny says, "Favorite bit to take out of context:"
[sleep-deprivation]|17:19 jenrexrode says, "yeah, I've been on 2 weeks vacation, and sleeping late every day"
[science]|17:19 Johnny | "You’ve got a heart drug?" says Parker. "You let me put it on my jellyfish, and I’ll tell you if it can improve the pumping."
[lounge]|17:19 Nitku leaves.
[lounge]|17:20 jscott goes home.
[sleep-deprivation]|17:20 jenrexrode says, "and the last few days have been a little too late, leading to staying up too late"
[lounge]|17:22 RootShell is back, slightly taller, with gigantic scars on his calves. Will you marry him now?
[lounge]|17:23 RootShell says, "Hello :)"
[lounge]|17:23 Johnny says, "Hey olethros, RootShell"
[lounge]|17:23 RootShell says (to Johnny), "Hey"
[sleep-deprivation]|17:23 boucher says, "There was a period during a summer class session in college where I didn't need to adhere to a very strict schedule, as all my classwork was online or flexible where I settled into a very comfortable rotation schedule of 4 hours awake, 4 asleep."
[lounge]|17:23 RootShell goes southwest to play with toys.
[lounge]|17:24 RootShell is not Spam! He is entering the lounge because you subscribed and confirmed that you wanted him.
[sleep-deprivation]|17:24 boucher says, "Granted, that did mean I slept 12 hours a day, but I felt far more productive the other 12."
[lounge]|17:24 RootShell goes southwest to play with toys.
[lounge]|17:24 RootShell. A MAN, PHYSICALLY. CONFIDENT. WANTS BALL.
[lounge]|17:24 RootShell heads southeast into the spoiler room.  Rather annoyingly, Anna trails along behind him like the too-long hem of a guilty red-headed plague.
[lounge]|17:24 jenrexrode says, "hi"
[lounge]|17:25 Johnny says, "He's in the jailhouse now"
[lounge]|17:25 Johnny says, "Er, spoiler room"
[sleep-deprivation]|17:25 jenrexrode says, "sounds good"
[lounge]|17:25 RootShell has a sheet of triangle-grid paper, a straightedge, an X-acto knife, and several sheets of 3M Diamond Scotchlite vinyl.
[tech]|17:29 DorianX says, "Wow. We truly live in the future"
[tech]|17:29 DorianX says, " https://twitter.com/JMMandel/status/227118313954750464/photo/1 "
[tech]|17:30 jenrexrode says, "all but those clothes"
[tech]|17:30 borowski says, "There's no way that guy would fit in my pocket."
[tech]|17:30 Gunther says, "ok look I just like large pockets ok"
[tech]|17:30 jenrexrode says, "heh"
[tech]|17:30 BrenBarn says, "I don't want to know what his 'equipment' is like"
[tech]|17:30 jenrexrode says, "heh"
[tech]|17:30 jenrexrode says, "I don't like ear buds"
[tech]|17:31 Johnny says, "I had a pair of cans that died a few years ago."
[tech]|17:31 DorianX says, "Though it seems like cheating that he's got a boom box, walkman and radio"
[tech]|17:33 jenrexrode says, "iphone makes a lousy boom box without some accessory"
[tech]|17:33 DorianX says, "he also seems to have two mid system speakers"
[tech]|17:33 Johnny says, "maybe a popbox"
[tech]|17:33 Johnny says, "cracklebox"
[tech]|17:34 jenrexrode | https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=491677530848941&set=a.376415269041835.110463.200652089951488&type=1&relevant_count=1
[lounge]|17:36 inky suffers from an "excess of kittens".
[WWIII]|17:37 borowski | Long before the era of post-Sept. 11 security precautions in the U.S., an unknown person or group of people may have begun carrying out a series of bioterrorism attacks in California. The target? Menthol-scented eucalyptus trees. Before you wonder why you hadn't heard of this, it's because the story isn't necessarily true. It's a hypothesis, a theory promoted by a noted California entomologist and eucalyptus expert named Timothy Paine.
[WWIII]|17:38 Johnny says, "Oh no, who will save the Californian Koala"
[WWIII]|17:39 Johnny says, "that smokes Menthol ciggies"
[WWIII]|17:40 DorianX says, "Or "T-Paine", has he is known on the streets"
[WWIII]|17:41 borowski says, "haha"
[WWIII]|17:42 borowski says, "Oh no! It looks like the Californian Koala is already becoming difficult to find!"
[WWIII]|17:42 Tale says, "I liked Dan Browns earlier boosk better."
[WWIII]|17:45 Gunther says, "Noted California entomologist and eucalyptus expert Timothy Paine stumbled through an embarrassing conspiracy theory, and the schadenfreude you feel was not his."
[lounge]|17:46 Miseri heads southeast into the spoiler room. Nobody has ruined it yet.
[lounge]|17:47 Grocible enters the lounge after having sawrn something narsty in the woodshed.
[lounge]|17:47 Grocible says, "good eve"
[lounge]|17:47 jenrexrode says, "hi"
[lounge]|17:47 Johnny says, "Hi Mis and Groc"
[lounge]|17:47 Johnny says, "Wait, whoops"
[lounge]|17:48 Miseri enters from the southeast, thoroughly spoiled.
[lounge]|17:48 Grocible says, "there you go"
[comp11]|17:48 Miseri says, "Man.  I'd forgotten ... only 4 quotes last year, and 2 were mine."
[comp11]|17:48 Miseri says, "there"
[comp11]|17:48 Tale asks, "Quotes?"
[comp11]|17:48 Miseri says, "there's got to be a special prize for that."
[comp11]|17:49 Miseri says (to Tale), "the 2011 comp game quotes object in the spoiler room.  It plays quotes when people enter the room."
[lounge]|17:49 Gunther, Geoffrey, and Shamino all represented various aspects of Garriott: his ego, his ego, and his ego, respectively
[WWIII]|17:51 borowski says, "I was listening to an interview with Paine and his theory isn't completely out there. I'm more amused by the possibility that it very well could be true."
[lounge]|17:51 Fang is a veritable smorgasbord of visual variables.
[bm]|17:52 Grocible says, " https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/378302_10151047132844378_1178882681_n.jpg "
[bm]|17:52 Grocible says, "for an alleged bunch of anarchic hippies, burning man is pretty organised"
[lounge]|17:52 RootShell http://www.ifreviews.org
[tech]|17:53 jenrexrode says, "we were making poitions"
[tech]|17:53 jenrexrode says, "oops"
[tech]|17:53 Johnny says, "Take it to #alchemy"
[lounge]|17:53 Grocible says, "I wonder how much copper is wasted worldwide by using 10 or 100 baseT over Ethernet"
[lounge]|17:53 Grocible says, "since only half the wires are used"
[Olympics]|17:53 olethros | John Coates, President of the Australian Olympic Committee, admitted he paid $70,000 to two African members of the IOC so that Sydney would get the Games in 2000 and it did
[Olympics]|17:53 olethros asks, "are there a few 0s missing?"
[lounge]|17:55 Tale heads into the spoiler room, situated just so, to inconvenience any invading evil spirits.
[lounge]|17:55 Firion goes home.
[lounge]|17:56 Tale enters from the southeast, thoroughly spoiled.
[lounge]|17:57 Tale is fired from breathing.
[lounge]|17:57 * Tale has disconnected.
[videogames]|17:59 Johnny | We went through five iterations of neck fat and positioning so that she could make eye contact with you without her neck looking wrong.
[videogames]|18:00 BrenBarn says, "neck fat"
[Pokey]|18:01 BrenBarn says, "hey, a new pokey"
[ultima]|18:02 * Ghogg has joined the channel.
[gameofthrones]|18:13 olethros says, "ah, the game gets unsettled once more, after book 4"
[gameofthrones]|18:14 olethros says, "even though some of the characters do not appear as their stories are in the parallel book 5, it is still a bit too many characters for me to remember comfortably"
[lounge]|18:20 Jearl When you see it, you have the tendency to eat this beauty ( with your eyes )
[Floyd]|18:30 * zaphod has joined the channel.
[griffin]|18:30 * zaphod has joined the channel.
[gus]|18:30 * zaphod has joined the channel.
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[tale]|18:33 * zaphod has joined the channel.
[Jotacabana]|18:34 * zaphod has joined the channel.
[videogames]|18:35 K-Y says, "Mirror's Edge is giving me the same problems that ySuper Mario 64 did back in the da"
[videogames]|18:37 K-Y says, "I have a limited time to enter a door, and must execute jumps off a wall in order to reach it"
[videogames]|18:37 K-Y says, "but I can't figure out how to consistently execute said jumps"
[dinner]|18:39 Miseri ought to get some food in him, but feels too anxious to feel hungry.
[space]|18:40 Fang says, " http://vimeo.com/45878034 "
[dinner]|18:41 Miseri says, "okay, off for food."
[lounge]|18:51 Steve slips away on the newly waxed floor.
[noise]|18:52 olethros says, "these concerts are very annoying"
[noise]|18:52 olethros says, "now there is some spanish bawling"
[lounge]|18:54 Gerynar enters the lounge but is facing the wrong way. After a couple minutes of staring at the wall, he turns around.
[lounge]|18:55 jenrexrode says, "hi"
[lounge]|18:55 Gerynar says, "Howdy"
[lounge]|18:55 Johnny says, "Hi Gerynizzle"
[lounge]|18:55 Gerynar says, "Hi, Johnnyfizzle"
[lounge]|18:56 olethros says, "food"
[lounge]|18:56 olethros has ordered three mega-generators to be installed in his boathouse.
[lounge]|18:57 Gerynar asks, "So, what's going on in the wonderful world of ifMUD?"
[lounge]|18:58 DavidW says, "ClubFloyd played Sting of the Wasp this afternoon."
[lounge]|18:58 Johnny says, "And now it's playing Talk About Roommates."
[lounge]|18:59 Johnny says, "(featuring Lasagna)"
[lounge]|19:00 Gerynar says, "They're still goin? I took a peek while I was at work because it was slow, then, because I was peeking, we got busy"
[lounge]|19:00 DavidW says, "hm. Taking the acronym of Talk About Roommates made me think that T.A.R. and Feathers would be an interesting name for *something*."
[lounge]|19:00 Gerynar agrees with DavidW and can barely wait to see what he comes up with.
[lounge]|19:01 Johnny says (to Gerynar), "Nah, it's an actual conversation on #clubfloyd about roommates and (my favorite part, although it's mostly over) lasagna."
[lounge]|19:01 borowski says, "Tar and feathers would be a good name for cop buddies."
[lounge]|19:01 Johnny says, "TAR could be like KITT"
[lounge]|19:01 DavidW says (to borowski), "That's what I was thinking, yes."
[lounge]|19:02 Gerynar says, "ah"
[lounge]|19:02 DavidW says, "Feathers could be the nickname of a Big Bird type."
[lounge]|19:03 DavidW says, "T.A.R. -- Text Adventure Robot."
[lounge]|19:04 Jota turns into a slimy toad!
[lounge]|19:04 Iain leaps astride a mountain pony and gallops off bareback for reinforcements.
[lounge]|19:04 borowski says, "ooo a crime solving Text Adventure Robot"
[lounge]|19:05 DavidW says, "'We heard there was a crime against ...(robo-sunglasses)... mimesis.'"
[lounge]|19:05 Gerynar says, "yeeeAAAAAAHHH"
[lounge]|19:06 Ellison arrives from the east.
[lounge]|19:06 Ellison says, "re"
[lounge]|19:08 Johnny says, "Hey Ellison"
[facebook]|19:19 DavidW says, "argh. Just got gyped again by the game. I spent resources to get energy -- that it remembered. Used the energy on an expedition and lost the connection. The recent progress on the expedition got lost, and that energy I just bought and used is still gone."
[facebook]|19:22 DavidW says, "Only have 19 more hours of play in the expedition too."
[kitties]|19:25 Johnny says (to Cat), "damn you"
[kitties]|19:26 Johnny says, "So, there wasn't any cat food for a while, and I had to feed the cat, er, ham and stuff."
[kitties]|19:26 Johnny says, "And now it's all down on the kibble."
[kitties]|19:26 vimes asks, "ham and "stuff", eh?"
[kitties]|19:27 Johnny says, "Hot dog."
[kitties]|19:27 Johnny says, "Anything from the meat drawer."
[kitties]|19:29 Johnny says, "It went through a pack of ham, a pack of turkey, and half a pack of hot dogs."
[kitties]|19:29 Johnny says, "It's trying to eat the parakeets."
[kitties]|19:29 Johnny says, "And it won't eat the cat food."
[kitties]|19:31 (from DavidW) Cat says (to Johnny), "You were holding out on the good stuff."
[dinner]|19:33 genericgeekgirl says, "Chilled beet and fennel soup, which Amdi is choosing to refer to as "Thai borscht.""
[dinner]|19:35 vimes says, "hee hee"
[dinner]|19:35 vimes says, "we made something like that a couple of years ago, when we were getting huge bulbs of amazingly peppery and delicious fennel from the coop"
[dinner]|19:36 vimes says, "we also made fennel salsa, roasted fennel and sunchokes, fennel-braised lamb, poached salmon with fennel, fennel-curried lentils, and fennel and pear crisp"
[dinner]|19:36 (from Johnny) vimes says, "then the darn chickens decided to lay eggs instead"
[dinner]|19:36 vimes says, "heh"
[dinner]|19:42 jenrexrode says, "turkey club"
[dinner]|19:43 Johnny asks, "Turky Swiss?"
[dinner]|19:43 jenrexrode asks, "bacon cheddar?"
[dinner]|19:43 Johnny says, "okay"
[lounge]|19:54 Gerynar says, "CSB"
[lounge]|19:54 Gerynar says "bloop" and shrinks down into a little dot, then winks out...just like those old-fashioned B&w televisions.
[lounge]|19:54 * Gerynar has disconnected.
[dinner]|19:57 borowski says, "I ate some spaghetti a couple of hours ago but this conversation is making me hungry."
[dinner]|20:00 jenrexrode says, "mine was specifically a defense before grocery shopping"
[dinner]|20:02 borowski says, "Ah, that's always a good idea."
[photoshop]|20:05 Johnny says, "Who twitted this http://www.wisdom.weizmann.ac.il/~vision/SingleImageSR.html "
[photoshop]|20:05 Johnny says, "Damn you, #photoshop"
[lounge]|20:11 Gerynar enters the lounge but is facing the wrong way. After a couple minutes of staring at the wall, he turns around.
[lounge]|20:12 Johnny says, "Hello, again, Gery, n, ar."
[lounge]|20:12 Gerynar says, "Howdy"
[lounge]|20:14 jenrexrode says, "re"
[photo]|20:15 Johnny says, "It was Iain, Iain retweeted it. http://www.wisdom.weizmann.ac.il/~vision/SingleImageSR.html "
[photo]|20:15 Johnny says, "Anyway, I want to see this technology applied to adventure games."
[English]|20:17 K-Y | Related searches: Sinkapy
[English]|20:17 K-Y says, "stupid search engines"
[noise]|20:30 * vaporware has joined the channel.
[Pokey]|20:30 * vaporware has joined the channel.
[lounge]|20:33 Lucea is gonna get back baby bad balls to you, love, cretin.
[lounge]|20:33 * Lucea has disconnected.
[begood]|20:40 Johnny says, "I kinda want to make my webpage Geocities-like."
[begood]|20:41 Gerynar asks, "why?"
[lounge]|20:41 Lucea had the olive complexion.
[begood]|20:41 Johnny says, "It's an aesthetic choice, Gerynar."
[lounge]|20:41 Johnny says, "Hi Lucea"
[lounge]|20:41 Gerynar says, "OK, I was just curious"
[begood]|20:41 Johnny says, "Anyway, I've been seeing a lot of old websites lately."
[lounge]|20:41 Gerynar says, "ILAC"
[begood]|20:42 Ellison says, "you'd think that there'd be some service targeting the nostalgia crowd"
[whiz-games]|20:42 Whizzard stretches.
[whiz-games]|20:42 Whizzard says, "Whew."
[whiz-games]|20:42 Whizzard says, "Ok, I don't like to do it, but I need some AC tonight."
[begood]|20:42 Johnny says, "There was that one webhost that offered services to the Geocities.com refugees."
[begood]|20:43 Johnny says, "I wonder how those websites turned out."
[begood]|20:43 Johnny says, "(Geocities.jp still going strong.)"
[begood]|20:44 Johnny asks, "What?"
[lounge]|20:44 Lucea says, "re"
[begood]|20:45 Johnny | Oops! Google Chrome could not find robotfindskitten.org
[begood]|20:45 Johnny says, "There it goes."
[begood]|20:45 Gerynar says, "speaking of old web-pages...here's a snapshot of the one I designed for a company I worked at a long time ago http://web.archive.org/web/19981212020321/http://pcmicrocomponents.com/ "
[begood]|20:46 Johnny asks, "What does the E stand for?"
[begood]|20:46 Johnny asks, "Myszka Mik-E?"
[begood]|20:46 Gerynar says, "no, Eugene"
[begood]|20:46 Johnny says, "I think I forgot a C in there."
[I7]|20:49 Lucea says, "ok, so"
[I7]|20:49 Lucea says, "as a player, would you prefer: a container inside a container, or one object that becomes another object when unwrapped"
[I7]|20:50 Lucea says, "i.e."
[I7]|20:50 Lucea says, "there's just a useless container surrounding it, think "do not open until Xmas" -- would you rather have the useless paper around or not? (Not a puzzle game.)"
[begood]|20:50 Johnny says, "Huh, Kris Straub (Chainsawsuit guy) did this http://robotfindskitten.org/download/Extras/DeltaurInitiative/robotfinds.jpg "
[whiz-games]|20:53 Whizzard says, "Ah, that's better already."
[whiz-games]|20:53 Whizzard says, "Just a bit beyond my tolerable zone tonight. I expect it'll get better when the sun goes down, though."
[begood]|20:53 Johnny says, "Damn, this game has more ports than possibly the Z-machine."
[I7]|20:54 Ellison says, "I'd be happy with the latter, assuming the original container has no other uses"
[I7]|20:55 Lucea says, "yeah, it's useless"
[begood]|20:55 Johnny says, "Since there's an Inform version of this... I don't know if that's cheating or not."
[begood]|20:56 Ellison says, "dang. although I'd say that any port that stops you from finding the kitten is not a faithful port."
[lounge]|20:57 Miseri asks, "aaaand time to go.  What could I be forgetting?"
[begood]|20:57 Johnny says (to Gerynar), "Anyway, good website for 1998, man."
[begood]|20:58 Johnny says, "Well, that one's just a mockup."
[lounge]|20:58 Miseri says, "Off.  'Later, all."
[lounge]|20:58 Miseri is very disappointed in you.  Earlier, he may have ransacked your office, but he is *very* disappointed in you.
[begood]|20:59 Gerynar says, "I even wrote a Delphi program to go through my pages and update prices when they were changed in our Point of Sale system"
[TV]|20:59 DorianX says, "started watching The Tribe again"
[TV]|21:00 DorianX says, "You know what the problem is withthat show? The most interesting character in the whole show was the main villain who got killed off in episode 2"
[begood]|21:03 Ellison says, "the thing to remember when doing an object switch like that is to update your pronouns in between, so 'it' refers to the right thing"
[begood]|21:03 Ellison says, "oops, iladc"
[I7]|21:03 Ellison says, "the thing to remember when doing an object switch like that is to update your pronouns in between, so 'it' refers to the right thing"
[lounge]|21:05 Rob comes right on in.
Recapped 700 of 2789 lines from recent channels.
Current time: Sunday, 22 Jul 2012, 09:05:03 PM EDT
Rob says, "zblrp"
Ellison says, "hey Rob"
Johnny says, "Speak of the devil"
Johnny says, "Hi Rob"
Rob says, "ell o"
Rob says, "the devil you say"
Firion was your mother much upon these years that you are now a maid, etc.
Johnny says, "And introducing Firion as Firion"
Ellison says, "and hey Firion"
Firion asks, "Yes, corr-- erm, what's going on?"
[robmumble] Rob says, "ow, hurts to type after guitar practice"
[robmumble] Rob says, "calluses not fully formed yet"
No quotations available.
No matching messages.
[compression] * borowski has joined the channel.
Johnny says, "Nothing suspicious, that's for sure."
[begood] Rob says, "hm that gerynar link isn't loading for me at web.archive.org"
[begood] Rob says, "it had an error about too many 'http:'s so I removed some and then it said Hrm can't find nuthin"
[compression] borowski asks, "I tried compressing some AVI files with 7zip but it only reduced their size by about 1.5%. I guess they're already as compressed as they're going to get?"
[begood] Johnny asks, "What browser?"
[begood] Johnny | This site is best if viewed with either Netscape Navigator 4.0 or higher -or- Miscrosoft Internet Explorer 4.0 or higher
[begood] Ellison says, "there was an extra http in Gerynar's link"
[begood] Johnny says, "Nah, that's just how the Wayback Machine works."
[begood] borowski says, "It works for me on Firefox 14."
[begood] Johnny says, "It also works if you take it out, though."
[compression] Rob says, "yeah probably"
<Doug> Doug has connected to ifMUD.
Doug has arrived.
Doug waves.
[compression] Rob says, "unless you converted them to yet another video format and cranked up the compression yourself of screen size and lossiness and stuff"
[compression] Johnny asks, "Are you compressing them primarily to try and save space?"
[compression] Johnny asks, "Or for archive-y, move-y reasons?"
Rob says, "Doug-o"
Johnny says, "Hi Doug"
Doug asks, "What's the rumpus?"
Rob says, "we smell a wumpus"
[compression] borowski says, "For the latter. To save time on dropbox backuping."
[robmumble] BrenBarn says, "how is calluss formed"
[robmumble] Rob says, "hehh"
[robmumble] Ellison says, "heh"
[compression] borowski says, "And to avoid having to pay for more space."
[begood] Johnny says, "Dang."
[begood] Johnny says, "All this game maker looky-looing makes me want to dig up DarkBASIC Pro that's on some CD around here."
Doug says, "The door has vended Carrot Dudes and a Fish Dog."
Rob says, "what"
Doug says, "(from #d&d url)"
Rob says, "#english-sentences-never-before-uttered"
<olethros> Tetris may hold the key to stopping cannibalism.
olethros was sworn in by robed priests on Thursday morning.
Rob says, "'thros-O"
olethros says, "howdy par'ner"
Rob says, "someone told me you're in toronto"
Doug says, "ol?, thros!"
Doug says, "hmph."
Rob says, "arriba"
Doug says, "that was supposed to be an e with accent"
Rob says, "yeah I inferred"
Doug says, "this works in linux emacs but not osx emacs"
Johnny says, "You got almost the whole range of emotion punctuation can convey."
[begood] Rob says, "wrote some games when you were 12 did you"
[compression] vaporware says, "If they're AVIs that other people might have uploaded already, you're better off keeping them intact."
[begood] Johnny says, "Nah, just a lot of fumbling."
Rob says, "the mud has 8bit char user settings but it still seems stymied by macos's charset"
[905] Adam says, "Hey, question"
[begood] Rob says, "well yeah"
[905] Rob says, "hey, it's Adam. hey Adam"
[905] Adam says, "(I'm assuming people on this channel have played the game - spoilers ahoy)"
[compression] vaporware says, "Dropbox de-duplicates uploads, so if someone else already has the file in their account, you can sync it without having to send the data."
olethros says, "indeed I am"
[905] Adam says, "Right now, if you try to lock the front door of the house, the game says that the locking mechanism is broken"
[905] Rob says, "what hotel room were you in when you wrote the game"
olethros says, "Toronto is nice"
Rob says, "what t'heck're'ya doin' there"
olethros says, "an .... average city in some sense"
[DustWorld] DavidW says, "hm. After all the packing I did yesterday, all i did today was pack one box, play ClubFloyd, cook a frozen lasagna."
Rob says, "I've been there"
[905] Adam says, "Uh, I think room 315 of the Victoria Hotel in Melbourne, Australia"
Rob says, "it's not all that average, unless you're used to rampant multiculturalism"
[905] Rob says, "ok, carry on"
olethros says, "international conference of the association for the advancement of artificial intelligence"
[905] Adam says, "In the current beta for v1.1, the description out in the driveway tells you whether the front door is open or closed"
[905] Rob says, "heh, you remember the room number"
[905] Adam says, "Presumably this will prompt people to close the door behind them"
[905] Adam says, "You asked what room!"
[905] Rob says, "only some players are door-closers"
[905] Adam says, "If you had asked what hotel I would have just told you the hotel"
[905] Rob says, "hee hee"
[begood] Ellison says, "the other week, I was trying to find a good program for playing BASIC source games on the ifarchive. wasn't successful, though."
olethros says, "really? hm, well, it has a china town a korean town, a greek town, an italian town... but I thought that this was standard for all US^W north american cities"
[905] Rob says, "like Jota"
[905] Adam says, "Right, but if the room desc explicitly says 'The house lies to the north; the front door is open,' you're gonna close the door before driving away"
[905] Rob says, "ah"
[905] olethros says, "point"
[905] Rob asks, "wait so what's the question?"
[begood] Johnny asks, "Quick BASIC in DosBOX?"
[905] Adam says, "Then it is likely that you will lock it"
[905] Adam says, "Since you think it's your house"
[905] Rob says, "hmmmmm yeah personally I'd do that as a player"
[905] Adam says, "That will pull up the line about the broken lock"
[905] Rob says, "still trying to factor in the laziness of random joe player though"
[905] Adam asks, "Is that too much of a giveaway?"
[905] Rob says, "hmrmmmmmm"
[begood] Ellison says, "I think I thought Quick BASIC was too big of a download so I was trying something called FreeBASIC"
[905] Rob says, "that's a chewy question"
[compression] borowski asks, "Does it do that automatically?"
[905] Adam says, "I mean, it's been in the game for twelve and a half years, but only for people who have sought it out, really"
[905] olethros says, "mmm then you might go in to investigate"
[DustWorld] Doug asks, "what did Club Floyd play today?"
[movie] Dave says, "Ice Age 4 was okay"
[905] Rob asks, "and if it gets given away at that point, does any other ending happen?"
[movie] Dave says, "I could live without Nicki Minaj"
[905] Adam says, "I'm guessing the % of players who try it would go from 5% to 95%"
[905] Rob says, "well, maybe keeping it as only for the sought-outs is the right way to go"
[DustWorld] olethros says, "see emily play"
[905] Rob says, "hm yeah"
[905] Rob asks, "do you even have a key to the door?"
[movie] Dave says, "out of all of the animated movies, Madagascar 3 was by far the best"
[905] olethros says (to rob), "good idea"
[905] Adam says, "You do"
[videogames] Doug says, "man, people on tablets have a huge advantage in Draw Something. I just can't get that fine a resolution on my phone."
[DustWorld] DavidW says, "Sting of the Wasp"
[begood] Johnny says, "QuickBASIC should just be a few megs."
[905] Rob says, "maybe it depends on how you describe it"
[compression] vaporware says, "If you want to shrink the videos, your options are basically what Rob said - reduce the resolution, reduce the quality, and/or use a more efficient codec (like H.264 instead of XVID). Reducing the quality would be quickest, if you can find a compressed domain transcoder for whatever format it's in. (ReJig does it for MPEG-2, not sure if there are any for XVID or H.264.)"
[DustWorld] DavidW says, "It was a good session."
[begood] Ellison says, "yeah, maybe I was looking at the wrong site"
[compression] vaporware says (to borowski), "Yes."
[905] Rob says, "maybe with a little sneaky ambiguity in terms of how you describe that the lock is broken"
[905] olethros says, "if the whole point is to not have peoploe go and search the room at the very beginning, then I'd avoid adding any early hints that something is amiss"
[begood] Johnny says, "I don't know that FreeBASIC pledges any kind of fidelity to the dialects of BASIC those older games are written in."
[905] Rob asks, "can the player go inside again and look under the bed at that point?"
[videogames] Dave says, "so this is typical"
[905] Adam says, "Another option is to automatically have the PC close the door behind him"
[905] Adam says (to Rob), "Yes"
[videogames] Dave says, "my kids were fighting with FIFA 2012"
[videogames] Dave says, "we could not figure out how to make it work 2 on 2"
[begood] Johnny says, "Some of them are C-64 BASIC frex."
[905] Adam says, "If the door is closed you might be less inclined to try to lock it"
[compression] DorianX says, "I've seen it for mpeg-2, never for anything else"
[905] Rob says, "hm yeah an automated door-close would probably throw another large % off the trail"
[videogames] Dave says, "and so I'm searching the web, getting pissed off, and finally e-mail EA support"
[905] Rob says, "especially if it were just narrated as having happened"
[905] Rob says, "it'd still seem like 'la la la, typical day, head out, close the door...'"
[videogames] Dave says, "I get up, go out to the living room and tell the kids the bad news and they say, "Oh, we figured it out...nevermind.""
[905] Adam says, "But at present there is no mention of the door, and that seems to have worked well enough"
[905] Rob asks, "how was leaving the house handled in the original version?"
[905] Rob asks, "is it because you're implementing a door that didn't used to be an object?"
olethros has ordered three mega-generators to be installed in his boathouse.
</olethros> Turns out you can polish a turd.
<olethros> Tetris may hold the key to stopping cannibalism.
olethros was sworn in by robed priests on Thursday morning.
[905] Adam says, "In v.1.01 t just dumps you in the driveway, says the neighborhood is seedy, and tells you there's a car in the driveway"
[DustWorld] Doug asks, "huh, never heard of it.  Is it new?"
[905] Rob says, "the other thing is that I remember feeling like there was a lot of narrative momentum propelling me to work"
[905] Ellison says, "you could just say, 'well, the lock is broken, but there's nothing of value inside anyways.'"
[905] Rob says, "er, to go to the office, what have you"
[905] Adam says, "The actual reason this came up is that someone noted that the house isn't implemented as a scenery object, and the description doesn't tell you what direction it's in"
[905] Rob says (to Ell), "heh"
[905] Rob says, "ah hm"
[905] Rob says, "I'm in favor of houses being implemented as scenery objects"
[905] Adam says, "So I put 'the house lies to the north' in the desc, and then I thought that I should say the door is open/closed"
[905] Adam says, "But now I'm leaning towards taking that back out"
[905] olethros says, "Hmm I think it would be too much to sagive details about the doors when you are standing in the driveway"
[905] Adam says, "Still keeping the house as a scenery object, but not mentioning the status of the door"
[905] Rob says, "this is weird but I have been picturing leaving the house on the east-west axis during this conversation"
[compression] borowski says, "Thanks, I'll try changing the video format."
[905] olethros says, "why not mention the windows, etc"
[905] Rob says, "so the southerly exit is making my brain spin"
[905] olethros says (to rob), "south is the pious way out"
[905] Rob says, "house as scenery object without explicit mention of the door would work for me"
[905] Adam says (to Rob), "I have the same sort of thing - I keep typing >E to go into the car, even though it's implemented as a container!"
[905] Rob says, "if someone's going to start poking around typing >x door then they deserve to get extra info on the situation, seems like"
[905] * Lucea has joined the channel.
[905] Rob says (to Adam), "well then!"
[google] DorianX asks, "I want to stick a copy of my backups in the cloud. Is google drive fit for this?"
[905] Rob says, "if I 'keep typing' something when I'm working on my own game, I eventually decide that whatever that is is what I should implement"
[begood] Ellison says, "I think the ones I was looking at were Quick BASIC."
[905] Adam says, "I think that's idiosyncratic, though - I walked east to get into my first car when I was 16"
[google] borowski says, "I tried Google Drive but I didn't like the lack of an option for limiting bandwidth."
[905] Rob says, "yeah I guess I trust my idiosyncracies sometimes"
[google] borowski says, "And there isn't a linux client yet."
[905] Rob says, "or I think of it as implementing something for that one player besides me, like an MST3K joke that the one guy in ohio gets"
</olethros> Turns out you can polish a turd.
<olethros> Tetris may hold the key to stopping cannibalism.
[begood] Johnny | Other compilers, like PowerBASIC and FreeBASIC, have varying degrees of compatibility. QB64, a multiplatform QuickBASIC compiler, is being developed and aims to be 100% compatible.[16]
[robmumble] Rob says, "I was just thinking about IF earlier this afternoon"
[robmumble] Rob says, "like, looking back, I hit my peak in 2001"
[google] DorianX asks, "How about amazon's s3?"
[comics] Adam asks (of Rob), "Hey, as long as you're online, here's a question for you (and anyone else on this channel): any favorite European graphic novels?"
[robmumble] Rob says, "at the time I thought I was just at the start of something big, relatively speaking, but now I'm starting to reckon with the idea that that was my big year"
[comics] Rob says, "hmmmm"
[comics] K-Y says, "Blacksad, I suppose"
[DustWorld] DavidW says, "no, IF Comp 2004 entry, and winner of Best PC at the Xyzzies."
[comics] K-Y says, "that's huge right now"
[905] Ellison says, "to be honest, I'm not entirely understanding what the issue is here, but it reminds me of how I rewrote Hugo's vehicle class so it's easier to change the default ways to enter a vehicle (like, a horse vehicle where 'entering' might be 'up')"
[comics] Rob says, "gad, of course, I haven't really bought any graphic novels in ages"
[google] borowski says, "I haven't tried that. Dropbox seems to work well."
[comics] Johnny says, "Sounds depressing."
[comics] Adam says, "Preferably in French (or English), though I could get through Spanish/Italian/German with a dictionary"
[comics] Johnny says, "Like, I'd expect every review to use the word "sadgasm"."
[comics] K-Y says, "Blacksad is indeed French"
[DustWorld] DavidW says, "It was 4th at IF Comp 2004, and 2nd for Miss Congeniality."
[comics] olethros says, "legion"
[comics] K-Y says, "but Dark Horse has published it in English"
[905] Adam says (to Ellison), "The issue is just that I'm imagining the car lying to the east for no reason at all"
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[DustWorld]/001 Jacqueline asks, "How's the move going?"
[DustWorld]/002 DavidW says, "so far, so good."
[DustWorld]/003 DavidW says, "I have a zillion boxes packed, the key to the new place, and I'm on good terms with my current roommate again."
[DustWorld]/004 Jacqueline says, "Nice."
[DustWorld]/005 Jacqueline says, "And did I hear you're hiring someone to help you move?  That sounds expensive."
[DustWorld]/006 jenrexrode says, "and didn't get disconnected"
[DustWorld]/007 DavidW says, "The room-to-be is emptied out and needs to be painted and the carpets need cleaning."
[DustWorld]/008 DavidW says (to jen), "Actually, I did lose the connection."
[DustWorld]/009 Jacqueline asks, "Is it a bigger room?  Nicer room?  Neither?"
[DustWorld]/010 DavidW says, "It's neither a bigger nor nicer room, but there's lots of fringe benefits. Cheaper rent, a/c, friendlier housemates, patio, bbq, wifi."
[DustWorld]/011 jenrexrode says, "aw"
[DustWorld]/012 DavidW says, "The new room is in a basement and it has a false ceiling, so I imagine I won't be able to use the tops of any of my bookcases or shelving units."
[DustWorld]/013 DavidW says, "also, the furnace is on the other side of one wall, so there might be a constant noise irritant."
[DustWorld]/014 DavidW says, "And there's no closet. I'll instead be using a clothes-rack in the hall and a cupboard in the basement bathroom."
[DustWorld]/015 Jacqueline asks, "And your old roommate's having his dad move in or something?  What's the story again?"
[DustWorld]/016 DavidW says, "welllll, his dad will be coming down in October, he tells me. But it also seems likely that roommate will be moving back to South Africa as early as December."
[DustWorld]/017 jenrexrode | folding chair wardrobe https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=501481426535218&set=a.502306729786021.134633.200652089951488&type=1&relevant_count=1
[DustWorld]/018 DavidW says, "And Michael will likely be staying here in August regardless of any of the above while DJ is overseas."
[DustWorld]/019 DavidW says (to jen), "yeah, I saw that posting earlier. It's a bit weird."
[DustWorld]/020 jenrexrode says, "heh"
[DustWorld]/021 DavidW says, "I have several of those ?-o-o-o-o-o-? things that let you hang 5 things on them, then drop one hook off the rack so it's more compact on the rod."
[DustWorld]/022 jenrexrode says, "cool"
[DustWorld]/023 jenrexrode says, "so that' would need a rod at standard height"
[DustWorld]/024 DavidW says, "yeah, exactly."
[DustWorld]/025 DavidW says, "y'know, for extra coolness, it would be nice to have one of those theatre widgets that hoists flats up and down, and use that sort of system to raise and lower clothes into the room."
[DustWorld]/026 DavidW says, "Perhaps someone should suggest that to Bat-Girl if she ever gets tired of her revolving wall."
[DustWorld]/027 Jacqueline says, "Huh.  I'd forgotten all about those ?-o-o-o-o-o-? things.  I've never used them - cool to know that they work.  I do, however, have several of these:"
[DustWorld]/028 Jacqueline | http://www.amazon.com/InterDesign-Orbinni-Over-the-Door-Rack-Chrome/dp/B004CR59LC
[DustWorld]/029 Jacqueline says, "We've found that on our doors we can hang two (one facing each side of the door)."
[DustWorld]/030 DavidW says, "oh yeah, I have an inferior version of that door thing that my grandmother owned."
[DustWorld]/031 DavidW says, "hm, pretty sure vimes already set me up for plover db goodness. I haven't touched it in ages, though,."
[DustWorld]/032 DavidW says, "ilac"
[DustWorld]/033 Jacqueline says, "These are pretty sturdy and stylish and I recommend them.  You can find them on lots of sites."
[DustWorld]/034 DavidW says, "yeah, I might get one."
[DustWorld]/035 DavidW says, "I'm thinking maybe when I do the move, have all the furniture put in the room and all the boxes almost anywhere else, and that way I can assemble the room first, then bring the boxes in to unpack one by one."
[DustWorld]/036 DavidW says, "'Cause otherwise, I could be spending all of August just rearranging my room like a heavy Rubic's Cube."
[DustWorld]/037 inky says, "wor like this http://www.mathplayground.com/slidingblock.html "
[DustWorld]/038 jenrexrode says, "like 11th hour with the piano"
[DustWorld]/039 DavidW says, "I'm only so-so with that sort of puzzle."
[DustWorld]/040 DavidW says, "But yeah, moving can be quite a bit like that. I have a bookcase in one corner quite blocked from moving by several boxes and a table."
[DustWorld]/041 DavidW says, "At some point, I will have to move a heck of a lot just to get it out of the room so I can disassemble it."
[DustWorld]/042 DavidW says, "hm. Another week of packing like this and I may well be ready to move."
[DustWorld]/043 DavidW says, "I'm starting to see floor."
[DustWorld]/044 jenrexrode says, "yay"
[DustWorld]/045 DavidW says, "It's cute how the loose stuff gravitates to remaining shelves or tops of box stacks."
[DustWorld]/046 borowski says, "Hooray for gravity!"
[DustWorld]/047 DavidW says, "Wingardium Marvelosa!"
[DustWorld]/048 Jacqueline says, "heh"
[DustWorld]/049 jenrexrode asks, "does that turn it all into birds?"
[DustWorld]/050 borowski says, "Marvelous birds!"
[DustWorld]/051 DavidW says, "I would like to know why the Arkansas Green Tag that I'm finding in the sweet potatoes' boxes I'm getting from the store this week say 'Crop Year: 2011'."
[DustWorld]/052 DavidW asks, "Is it possible that our store is getting sweet potatoes that are a year old?"
[DustWorld]/053 jenrexrode says, "i guess so, they're roots, and I think if you have a proper root cellar the keep for a while."
[DustWorld]/054 Jacqueline says, "I *think* (just a guess) that sweet potatoes are a winter crop, and may have been planted in 2011 but harvested in 2012 or, like jen said, might just be that they've been stored.  They last a long time."
[DustWorld]/055 jenrexrode says, "but I think they Texas 10-15 onion is planted on 10-15"
[DustWorld]/056 jenrexrode says, "yeah, 1015's come to market in mid-april"
[DustWorld]/057 DavidW says, "oh"
[DustWorld]/058 DavidW says, "ugh. My fingernails are filthy. They're rarely this bad."
[DustWorld]/059 DavidW says, "All this packing of dusty dusty stuff."
[DustWorld]/060 jenrexrode asks, "are you preserving the dust?"
[DustWorld]/061 DavidW says, "no, not intentionally. I can always make more,."
[DustWorld]/062 DavidW says, "And since one of my new roomies has a dust allergy, I'd like to not expose him to more dust than necessary."
[DustWorld]/063 borowski says, "Are you thinking about getting rid of any stuff? I'm always looking out for interesting used books."
[DustWorld]/064 DavidW says, "yes, I will want to get rid of some stuff, but I plan to do that mostly at the other end of the move."
[DustWorld]/065 borowski says, "Ah, OK."
[DustWorld]/066 DavidW asks, "What sort of books would you be interested in?"
[DustWorld]/067 borowski says, "Anything interesting or unusual. So not the Iliad but maybe an obscure sci-fi novel or something like that."
[DustWorld]/068 borowski says, "Something that I wouldn't have thought about picking up on my own."
[DustWorld]/069 DavidW says, "hm. I'll try to remember that."
[DustWorld]/070 borowski says, "OK, thanks."
[DustWorld]/071 DavidW says, "I should stop packing for the night. I hardly know where to put newly-filled boxes."
[DustWorld]/072 Rob says, "you're move-*ing* but not yet *moved*"
[DustWorld]/073 DavidW says, "right"
[DustWorld]/074 Rob asks, "first of august?"
[DustWorld]/075 Rob says, "this explains your dirty fingernails"
[DustWorld]/076 Rob says, "you know what's good for that? an old toothbrush"
[DustWorld]/077 DavidW says, "Exact date to be determined but near then."
[DustWorld]/078 DavidW says, "Long showers are also good for dirty fingernails. I suppose I'll have one tomorrow. Well, after I wake up, I mean."
[DustWorld]/079 DavidW says, "Finally tossed out a pair of shoes from high school. Turns out I can't get my feet into them anymore, which I guess means my feet grew slightly even after high school."
[DustWorld]/080 Jacqueline says, "I hear our feet get wider as we grow older."
[DustWorld]/081 Tale says, "Bellies, too."
[DustWorld]/082 Jacqueline says, "her"
[DustWorld]/083 Jacqueline says, "er, heh"
[DustWorld]/084 DavidW says, "hm. My remaining boxes aren't really suitable for my remaining books or file folders. It's getting difficult to decide what to pack next. I don't want to pack stuff that's essential everyday stuff."
[DustWorld]/085 borowski asks, "I can't remember: is your new place in a different city?"
[DustWorld]/086 DavidW says, "yeah, moving from Cambridge to Waterloo, but they and Kitchener all share the same Grand River Transit bus system."
[DustWorld]/087 borowski says, "Oh nice."
[DustWorld]/088 DavidW says, "(Cambridge itself used to be three towns: Galt, Preston, and Hespeler; I'm in the Galt part.)"
[DustWorld]/089 DavidW says, "There's an iXpress bus that zooms up through the middle of all three, which is really useful for someone like me."
[DustWorld]/090 DavidW says, "anyway, let me put the kettle on for ClubFloyd, zap some breakfast, and maybe grab a shower."
[DustWorld]/091 DavidW says, "I think I'll go see what temp and time frame my frozen lasagna requires."
[DustWorld]/092 DavidW says, "hm. After all the packing I did yesterday, all i did today was pack one box, play ClubFloyd, cook a frozen lasagna."
[DustWorld]/093 Doug asks, "what did Club Floyd play today?"
[DustWorld]/094 olethros says, "see emily play"
[DustWorld]/095 DavidW says, "Sting of the Wasp"
[DustWorld]/096 DavidW says, "It was a good session."
[DustWorld]/097 Doug asks, "huh, never heard of it.  Is it new?"
[DustWorld]/098 DavidW says, "no, IF Comp 2004 entry, and winner of Best PC at the Xyzzies."
[DustWorld]/099 DavidW says, "It was 4th at IF Comp 2004, and 2nd for Miss Congeniality."
Recapped 99 of 143 lines from misc/personal/dw.
[comics] olethros says, "l'incal"
[comics] olethros asks (of adam), "what style?"
[905] Ellison says, "that's a good enough reason to support >east for me!"
[comics] Rob says, "I'm more aware that there's a huge talent pool in europe but not what the wares are"
[comics] olethros says, "(sorry, I meant 'Je suis légio')"
[905] Rob says, "yeah me too I guess"