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ifMUD
An interactive real time social network chat bulletin board
quotebook url database with a parrot bot
Copyright 1997-2007 by Loungent Technologies, a wholly owned subsidiary of
rec.[arts|games].int-fiction; All rights reserved.
Release 4 / Serial number 990908 / perlMUD v2.1z
    "The characters were mostly of the cardboard cutout variety.
    I wanted to punch everyone except the one Scottish guy."
         --Jearl
  NOTE: Whenever a fix or enhancement is in place, it will be announced
  on the channel '#mud-updates'.
  OTHER NOTE: There is a mailing list where people can say things like
  "hey, the mud's down, what's up with that?" In fact, since this is
  the only thing the list is used for, you should join it if you are
  interested in this subject. To join, go to
    http://groups.google.com/group/ifmud/
  or talk to Steve.
Robinson Manor
A gracious, welcoming, airy space. Music drifts in from unseen speakers. A picture window on the southern wall provides a pleasant source of light and a sense of openness.
You can see: teleporter, a picture window, comfy sofa, Jeopardy podium, buzzer1, buzzer2, buzzer3, Jota greets Rob, fake_Robb_Sherwin
Visible Exits: west, east
<Rob> There is no other option for the world than to invade America and dismantle the lasers, send them through a time portal, and repurpose them as vibrators for dinosaurs. I?ve invented much of this."
No new channels have been created since your last check.
Adventurer's Lounge
Candles on the wood-panelled walls create a comfortably dark atmosphere. Hand-drawn maps are taped to nearly every surface -- the walls, the ceiling, the trophy case in the corner. Seating is plentiful. A small storage closet is to the north.
You can see: new laundry list, Birthday Calendar, magic laundry list, blank banner, Even Newer World Map, charset sampler, Automeeter, TheMasterTheorem player names, time zones, MUD Client Wish List, battle.net battletags, madlibs, Anything Finder, Sarcasm Detector, Gene Ray
Players: Alex, markm, Touchy, small, DorianX, Ryan, GDorn, jpt, vimes, Bishop, annabianca, Dave, Jon, Jearl, Allen, Otis, genericgeekgirl, ctmiller, baf, jscott, ghira, Steve, boucher, DavidW, marc, Hugo, Johnny, Matthew, inky, BrenBarn, vaporware, Ellison, jenrexrode, borowski, nothings, Marktwo, Petrosilius
Visible Exits: north, west, southwest, southeast, up, east
Rob comes right on in.
Recapping 1000 of 2906 lines from recent channels:
[tale]/15:00 Tale says, "The second season is a bit meh so far, to be honest."
[Canada]|15:00 DavidW asks, "When did you arrive in Toronto?"
[Canada]|15:00 olethros says, "yesterday"
[905]|15:00 * NewsBoy hollers, "Extra! Extra! Adam has posted message 1, about 'v1.1 needs testers', to the bulletin board! I know, it sound like I am jerk! But I really busy."
[Canada]|15:00 olethros says, "(and went to bed immediately)"
[Canada]|15:00 DavidW says, "oh"
[Canada]|15:01 DavidW says, "I would like to see you, of course, but I'm gonna have to think about how I can manage it."
[lounge]|15:01 Adam's reaction time is one nanosecond, and his "memory" capacity is 1,000 megabits.
[lounge]|15:01 Adam says, "Hello"
[lounge]|15:01 Johnny says, "Hi Adam"
[Canada]|15:02 olethros says, "well, one idea is to do some joint sightseeing (but that'd have to be outside the conference dates)"
[lounge]|15:02 Ellison says, "hey Adam"
[905]|15:02 olethros says, "!"
[Canada]|15:02 DavidW says, "well, I lived in Toronto for a while, although I imagine they've done a bit of redecorating in my absence."
[905]|15:02 Ellison says, "cool. now future generations will be able to steal the boss's laptop again."
[hardware]|15:03 DorianX says, "grumble"
[905]|15:03 Adam says, "!"
[hardware]|15:03 DorianX says, "I bought a new kvm because the old one didn't work"
[905]|15:03 olethros says, "so I am free in the evenings (apart from 25), and tomorrow the whole day"
[lounge]|15:03 Tale says, "Hey, it's Adam"
[hardware]|15:03 DorianX says, "but the new one doesn't work either"
[905]|15:03 olethros says, "I do so LAC"
[Canada]|15:03 olethros says, "so I am free in the evenings (apart from 25), and tomorrow the whole day"
[905]|15:03 Adam says (to Ellison), "That is actually the one part I wasn't able to regenerate"
[Canada]|15:03 Adam recaps
[905]|15:03 olethros says (to Adam), "I like your persistence"
[lounge]|15:04 Lucea had the olive complexion.
[Canada]|15:04 Adam says, "Hey, I just got back from Toronto not long ago"
[lounge]|15:04 Lucea says, "Hi"
[Canada]|15:04 Adam says, "Traffic was atrocious"
[Canada]|15:04 olethros says, "I used a plane"
[lounge]|15:04 Tale says, "Hey Lucea"
[lounge]|15:04 Johnny says, "Hi Lucea"
[Canada]|15:04 DavidW says, "Bus service is wretched on Sundays. The only way I could see you tomorrow is if I left here two hours ago."
[905]|15:05 inky says, "I guess it's too late now, but I wonder how successfully the game could be decompiled"
[Canada]|15:05 Adam says, "It took me 53 minutes to drive a mile and a half down Spadina - that's less than half typical walking speed"
[905]|15:05 Ellison says, "I have a v1 game file, but I imagine the textdump of that wouldn't help you any more than a textdump of v1.1"
[Canada]|15:06 olethros says, "in the plan I was sitting next to a czech guy who kept saying how awesome canadian public transport is"
[905]|15:06 Adam says (to Ellison), "Yeah, I saw the references in the text dump, but I couldn't find a series of commands that would get me in there"
[905]|15:06 Adam says, "I wonder whether it was something that I broke in going from 1.00 to 1.01 back in 2000"
[Canada]|15:06 inky says, "#belated I think of good native american food as being smoked fish"
[Canada]|15:06 inky says, "but I don't know that there are many native american restaurants"
[905]|15:07 Ellison says, "yeah, in 1.00, you can go in the boss's office when you enter the building (the boss doesn't enter the office until after you read the 'see me in the office' note or whatever)"
[905]|15:07 Ellison says, "in 1.01, it doesn't allow you to enter the office until you've read the note"
[Canada]|15:07 olethros says, "I certainly never saw any"
[Canada]|15:07 Adam says, "The only Native American food I know of are frybread stands on the Southwestern roadsides"
[Canada]|15:08 Adam says, "er, s/food/eateries/"
[905]|15:08 Adam says, "You know so much more about this than I do"
[905]|15:08 Adam says, "Clearly you should have been the one to rewrite it"
[905]|15:09 inky says, "sure, if you want it in hugo"
[Canada]|15:09 olethros says, "seems there are two!"
[lucence]|15:09 Tale asks (of lucea), "How was NoShowConf?"
[Canada]|15:09 olethros | http://www.lonelyplanet.com/usa/restaurants/native-american
[905]|15:09 Ellison says, "well, it is funny how many years had to pass before I realized the game no longer allowed that"
[personals]|15:10 BrenBarn | I smell like sunshine and taste like tropical rain. My mere presense is a bright light that radiates peace, beauty, and freedom. I am (pause), the most interesting girl in the world. And I don't usually drink beer, but when I do, it's girly fruity beer. Hey now, don't judge.
[905]|15:10 Adam says, "Anyway, I figured I should leave the laptop out because a Dell Inspiron 7000 is no longer 'suh-weet'"
[personals]|15:10 inky says, "ha ha"
[personals]|15:10 DavidW says, "too late, judging anyway"
[rolling-eyes]|15:11 Gunther | AP Essay: Shootings shatter safe haven of cinema
[rolling-eyes]|15:11 Tale says, "Piracy rates rising!"
[lucence]|15:11 Lucea says, "fantastic"
[905]|15:11 Adam says, "On the other hand, I guess no matter what I do, it will remain a period piece so long as the guy rushes off to work without checking Facebook first"
[Canada]|15:11 olethros says (to davidw), "the bus trip takes almost 3 times the (theoretical) car time"
[905]|15:11 inky says, "ha ha"
[personals]|15:12 DavidW says, "yeah, that's a fair estimate."
[personals]|15:12 DavidW says, "ilac"
[Canada]|15:12 DavidW says, "yeah, that's a fair estimate."
[lounge]|15:12 Gunther says, " http://i.imgur.com/3D56R.jpg "
[905]|15:12 Ellison says, "now you have to add '112 people liked this story' to the news article at the end"
[personals]|15:12 Lucea says, "wasn't there a blog post about that"
[lounge]|15:12 inky asks, "who is john galt, and why is he carrying a handbag?"
[lounge]|15:12 Felix waves.
[lounge]|15:13 BrenBarn says, "weird"
[Canada]|15:13 DavidW says, "When I went to see Jacqueline when she visited Toronto, I had to get to a bus station in an industrial part of Cambridge not directly accessible by the city buses."
[Canada]|15:14 olethros says, "huh"
[Canada]|15:14 DavidW says, "And I don't remember how often the buses run between Cambridge and Toronto, but it sure isn't that often per day."
[Canada]|15:14 olethros says, "tomorrow it's only 3 buses"
[Canada]|15:14 olethros says, "(no trains, I guess)"
[lucence]|15:15 Lucea says, "it > PAX, I'd say, in terms of IF-summit-like occasions"
[Canada]|15:15 DavidW says, "I think there's train service from Kitchener."
[lucence]|15:15 Tale says, "I saw Deirdras talk, that was great"
[Canada]|15:16 DavidW says, "There's something called the GO Train (or GO Bus) that connects to Kitchener, but I don't think it connects to Cambridge yet for some odd reason."
[lounge]|15:16 Adam says, "Okay, farmers' market time"
[lounge]|15:16 Adam says, "So long"
[lounge]|15:16 Adam lives in a world of glass skyscrapers, high-speed trains, gas-powered automobiles, calculators, and a worldwide communications network, yet cannot find happiness and comes to a tragic end.
[lounge]|15:16 * Adam has disconnected.
[religion]|15:17 Jon asks, "may i suggest that if you don't agree with the catholic church on many things, and you feel discomfort about your association with the catholic church, the answer is not to get _closer_ to the hidebound organization where men who don't have sex try to legislate what kind of sex women can have?"
[Canada]|15:17 olethros says, "gmaps does not so any trains"
[Canada]|15:17 olethros says, "*shw"
[Canada]|15:18 olethros says, "hmm"
[Canada]|15:18 olethros asks, " http://www.gotransit.com/publicroot/en/schedules/pubsched.aspx?table=25&direction=0&day=1&page=1&new= ?"
[lucence]|15:18 Lucea says, "yeah"
[lucence]|15:19 Lucea asks, "you've played her demo, right?"
[Canada]|15:19 olethros says, "ok no trains at all on weekends"
[religion]|15:19 * Jota has left the channel.
[Canada]|15:19 olethros says, "oh fuck this"
[Canada]|15:22 olethros says, "it doesnt really make sense for you to spend 6 hours on the road just so that we can meet for an hour"
[lucence]|15:22 Tale says, "I've played "The Play""
[Canada]|15:23 DavidW says, "unfortunately, I have to agree."
[905]|15:25 * vimes has joined the channel.
[t-shirts]|15:25 * vimes has joined the channel.
[singing]|15:25 * vimes has joined the channel.
[lounge]|15:26 DavidW says, "oh yeah, I think it must be cherry season. There were cherries at the food bank so there's probably cherries in the stores and farmers' markets too."
[lucence]|15:26 Lucea says, "wait, never mnid"
[lucence]|15:26 Lucea says, "I forgot it wasn't online"
[headlines]|15:28 Gunther says, "apparently Google News is now indexing news from the 60s"
[English]|15:28 inky | Truth is I.m a very non-conflicutal person
[headlines]|15:28 Gunther | Man walked on moon. Now what? (+video)
[lounge]|15:29 borowski says, "Yeah, my roommate just bought a ton of cherries."
[headlines]|15:31 Tale says, "Now, man moonwalks on the moon, that's news"
[movie]|15:31 K-Y says, "going to theater 20 minutes in advance"
[movie]|15:32 K-Y says, "this may be a mistake"
[headlines]|15:33 Ryan says, "#nm's-headlines Man walks on moon. On walks man."
[headlines]|15:33 Gunther says, "excellent"
[headlines]|15:33 Gunther says, "What now? Man walks on moon. On walks man: "Now what?""
[headlines]|15:33 Gunther says, "(+video)"
[headlines]|15:33 Ryan says, "Even better."
[lounge]|15:36 * boucher has disconnected.
[lounge]|15:36 * boucher has connected.
[lounge]|15:36 Marktwo goes home.
[lounge]|15:36 * Marktwo has disconnected.
[lounge]|15:36 Marktwo enters the lounge, and then it burns its finger.
[lounge]|15:37 * boucher has disconnected.
[lounge]|15:37 * boucher has connected.
[lounge]|15:38 * Marktwo has disconnected.
[lounge]|15:38 * Marktwo has connected.
[lounge]|15:44 Felix goes home.
[begood]|15:47 Johnny says, "Finally registered on the AGS forums, and I've got hosting!"
[begood]|15:48 Johnny says, "They don't usually give it to new members, but I demonstrated that I'd been lurking for years."
[begood]|15:49 Ellison asks, "how long will it take to upload the 3 gig adventure masterpiece you have been waiting to unleash on us?"
[begood]|15:50 Johnny says, "Let's say two years to make it, 6 hours to upload, to be conservative."
[lounge]|15:52 * K-Y has disconnected.
[lounge]|15:52 * K-Y has connected.
[905]|15:54 * K-Y has joined the channel.
[begood]|15:55 Johnny says, "It's johnny.agser.me, but all that's there right now is an AGS cup made of <span>s."
[lounge]|15:56 Gunther says, "<csb/>"
[lounge]|15:56 Gunther, Geoffrey, and Shamino all represented various aspects of Garriott: his ego, his ego, and his ego, respectively
[lounge]|15:57 K-Y says, "I will never get Ultima"
[lounge]|15:58 Gunther apparently summons the Ruins of Old Magincia onto the Town of New Magincia, crushing everyone beneath piles of completely inexplicable towers.
[lounge]|15:58 Johnny says, "Rock the CaSBah"
[begood]|15:59 Johnny says, "It's funny, but I might never have stumbled over IF or adventure games if I'd had a decent computer setup early on."
[begood]|16:01 Johnny says, "And since, unless memory betrays me, I've produced nothing of value, things would be largely the same except to me."
[begood]|16:02 Johnny thinks about the Universe where he took up Jeet Kune Do.
[videogames]|16:04 K-Y says, "ah, his first book has NMH1 art"
[videogames]|16:04 K-Y says, "his second book has NMH2 art"
[videogames]|16:04 inky says, "I bet I know what the third book will have"
[videogames]|16:05 K-Y says, "a $60 price tag"
[begood]|16:07 Tale says, "You'd be a motion captura actor for Tekken."
[videogames]|16:07 inky says, "hee hee"
[lounge]|16:07 * boucher has disconnected.
[lounge]|16:07 * boucher has connected.
[lounge]|16:08 * Marktwo has disconnected.
[lounge]|16:08 * Marktwo has connected.
[lounge]|16:09 K-Y then looked around and came to the conclusion that pretty much no one in this lounge even lifts.
[lounge]|16:09 * K-Y has disconnected.
[begood]|16:18 Ellison says (to Johnny), "but oh yeah, there was Riverside"
[begood]|16:19 Johnny says, "Obituary."
[begood]|16:19 Johnny says, "Meh, I think Drew could've done that without me."
[begood]|16:20 Ellison says, "he would have been lost in the darkness"
[begood]|16:23 Johnny says, "I'm not silently judging you, just debugging something in another window."
[lounge]|16:25 vaporware has been installed, configured, and maintained by secretaries, janitors, and a creepy Australian kid with a razor boomerang.
[lounge]|16:25 Gunther says, "VapObjects"
[lounge]|16:26 vaporware says, "[gunther greetWithQuip:[[[QuipManager alloc] init] fetchQuip]]"
[begood]|16:26 Ellison says, "I had been hoping your time off the internet might help you have a breakthrough, creatively. catching up on a backlog of games is also fun, though."
[begood]|16:27 Johnny says, "I seem to spend most of my worky time with tools, unfortunately."
[begood]|16:27 Johnny says, "And wanting to create tools. I mean, once I learn AGS I want to offer to code for projects."
[begood]|16:28 Johnny says, "My writing bone has withered, and I submit into evidence this very sentence."
[begood]|16:28 Ellison says, "spend more time writing tool stuff than writing games? that's preposterous!"
[begood]|16:29 Johnny says, "heh"
[begood]|16:30 vaporware asks, "Who would do such a thing?"
[Olympics]|16:32 Bishop | Can not be unseen: The London 2012 logo STILL looks like Lisa Simpson giving Bart a blowey.
[begood]|16:33 Ellison says, "maybe we should form a secret ifMUD club so we can talk about writing tools without feeling guilty about not writing games. then I can talk about writing games in my secret game writing clubs without feeling guilty about writing tools."
[lounge]|16:33 Gunther says (to vaporware), "uh oh, you forgot to release, CTD"
[begood]|16:33 vaporware says, "I have the inappropriately-named vaporwareif.blogspot.com."
[lounge]|16:34 olethros has ordered three mega-generators to be installed in his boathouse.
[begood]|16:36 Ellison says, "I have been writing stuff at notdeadhugo.blogspot.com"
[begood]|16:36 Tale says, "this is for openly discussing otherwise secret projects"
[begood]|16:36 Tale says, "ilac"
[DustWorld]|16:37 DavidW says, "Snagged three more boxes from the grocer's."
[begood]|16:37 Johnny says, "Ha! I have *two* empty blogs."
[begood]|16:37 Johnny asks, "Which must be worth 1 blog that has content, right?"
[begood]|16:38 Johnny says, "Interesting."
[Olympics]|16:38 inky says, "the main thing I can't unsee there is 'blowey'"
[begood]|16:38 Johnny says, "er."
[lounge]|16:41 Emily goes home.
[lounge]|16:41 * Emily has disconnected.
[Olympics]|16:42 Bishop asks, "And now it's going to insinuate itself into your conversation?"
[Olympics]|16:43 Bishop says, "(I assume it's a Britishism. It feels very British. I also assume it's a kind of pastry.)"
[Olympics]|16:46 inky says, "ha ha"
[lounge]|16:47 jenrexrode has entered the lounge. [ Your score has gone up by 10 points ]
[lounge]|16:47 jenrexrode says, "hi"
[Olympics]|16:47 Gunther says, "first a blowey, then a toad in the hole"
[DustWorld]|16:48 DorianX says, "That's "Grocers'""
[lounge]|16:49 Tale I wonder if talking on this channel counts as "public discussion"
[lounge]|16:49 Tale says, "ha ha"
[MUDhelp]|16:49 Tale asks, "Grr, so is there a way to fix my channel, so I only talk on one specific channel?"
[lounge]|16:49 Gunther says, "worst private channel secrecy ever"
[lounge]|16:50 Lucea says, "most anticlimactic, anyway"
[lounge]|16:50 Tale asks, "You didn't say my mischannel from #bdsm?"
[Olympics]|16:50 Jota says, "I think shortening words and sticking -ie or -y onto the ends of them is inherently a Britishism."
[lounge]|16:50 Whizzard goes to hamstring some zombies.
[lounge]|16:50 * Whizzard has disconnected.
[Olympics]|16:50 Jota says, "Not that no one else does it, but they have a strong penchant for it."
[lounge]|16:50 Johnny says, "Hi jen"
[Olympics]|16:51 Jota says, "Chockie, sarnie, buttie..."
[Olympics]|16:51 Jota says, "Bickie."
[Olympics]|16:52 inky says, "hmm yeah"
[Olympics]|16:52 inky says, "brolly"
[Olympics]|16:52 Gunther says, "brony, gunny"
[Olympics]|16:52 Gunther says, "wait, no"
[Olympics]|16:52 inky says, "ha ha"
[Olympics]|16:52 Gunther says, "bolshie"
[Olympics]|16:55 Jota says, "Except, of course, with people's names. Then you add '-ers'."
[Olympics]|16:55 Jota says, "E.g. 'inkers'."
[Olympics]|16:55 Gunther says, "charlie"
[UK]|16:55 Jota says, "OK, I have a little trouble believing this."
[UK]|16:56 Jota says, "According to this website, 'arris' is slang for 'arse'. But not because 'arris' sounds a bit like 'arse'. Rather:"
[UK]|16:56 Jota | Convoluted Cockney rhyming slang for 'arse'; Arris, an abbreviation of Aristotle, rhyming with bottle, and thereafter leading to bottle and glass rhyming with 'arse'.
[UK]|16:57 Gunther says, "well, yes, it's rhyming slang, innit"
[UK]|16:57 Fang says, "haha"
[UK]|16:57 Fang says, "I like the idea of a language being a rube goldberg device"
[UK]|16:57 Jota says, "Multiple stage rhyming slang that brings you back practically where you started."
[lounge]|16:58 vaporware sets down the diabolical Gene Ray, eyes shifting back and forth.
[UK]|16:59 Gunther says, "see also people who take 300 pages to say "this madeleine sure was good""
[UK]|16:59 vimes says, "or unrhyming slang"
[UK]|16:59 vaporware asks, "Madeleine Albright in her autobiography?"
[UK]|16:59 Jota says, "And we won't even get into what 'madeleine' is slang for."
[UK]|16:59 vimes says, "prunes -> syrup of prunes -> wig"
[web-toons]|17:00 Otis says, "I really shouldn't be subscribed to this channel. Every time I come by I end up doing multiple archive binges for new comics."
[web-toons]|17:00 Otis exclaims, "That said: Guilded Age is funny!"
[tale]|17:03 Johnny says, "#MUDhelp then ;"
[web-toons]|17:03 inky says, "hmm"
[web-toons]|17:03 inky says, "you could actually probably do a version of the great gatsby where gatsby is an ex-adventurer"
[gripe]|17:04 Jota says, "Grarr."
[gripe]|17:04 Jota says, "I *hate* it when javascript (or anything else) on a web page overrides the normal behavior of common keys."
[gripe]|17:04 Jota says, "When I hit the spacebar, I want to page down. I don't want to advance the photo in your slideshow."
[web-toons]|17:05 BrenBarn says, "heh"
[gripe]|17:05 BrenBarn asks, "wow, since when is spacebar page down?"
[tale]|17:05 Ellison says, "certain clients (like SimpleMU on Windows) let you spawn different windows for different channels, making it easy to keep one conversation in one place"
[gripe]|17:05 BrenBarn asks, "why don't you hit page down to page down?"
[gripe]|17:05 inky says, "he uses the page down key to make a space"
[web-toons]|17:05 Gunther says, "I have not even the remotest inkling of what The Great Gatsby is about"
[gripe]|17:06 Ellison says, "ha ha"
[web-toons]|17:06 Gunther says, "however I will pretend it's just Atlas Shrugged all over again"
[gripe]|17:07 BrenBarn says, "ha ha"
[web-toons]|17:07 inky says, "it's this story set in the roaring twenties about a bunch of rich people, one of whom is this nouveau riche guy who made his money from bootlegging"
[web-toons]|17:07 BrenBarn says, "it's rad"
[web-toons]|17:07 inky says, "and there are a bunch of relationship fallout things which end up with people dying"
[gripe]|17:08 Jota says (to BrenBarn), "Because the page down key is on the right side of the keyboard, and my right hand was on the mouse."
[gripe]|17:08 inky says, "you press it with your nose, duh"
[gripe]|17:08 inky says, "while saying "hooonk""
[gripe]|17:08 BrenBarn says, "then just use the scroll wheel"
[web-toons]|17:08 inky says, "so you could totally redo it where the guy made his money from adventuring"
[web-toons]|17:09 inky says, "and he's still got some unsavory contacts who are enraged pigs"
[web-toons]|17:09 Gunther says, "...so it IS Atlas Shrugged all over again"
[web-toons]|17:09 BrenBarn says, "ha ha"
[gripe]|17:09 Jota asks (of BrB), "Why are you criticizing my desire to pagedown rather than to scroll one line at a time?"
[gripe]|17:09 BrenBarn says, "I agree with your overall gripe"
[gripe]|17:09 Gunther says (to Jota), "he uses Arrus BT"
[gripe]|17:09 Gunther says, "nuff said"
[gripe]|17:09 BrenBarn says, "with Arrus BT, you never need to page down, because you just become enraptured staring at the beauty of the text at the top of the page"
[gripe]|17:10 inky says, "ha ha"
[gripe]|17:10 Jota asks, "It's the BLIT font?"
[gripe]|17:11 inky asks, "BTL?"
[Olympics]|17:11 Gunther says, "wait, I just noticed you completely failed to mention -izzle and -eezy"
[gripe]|17:11 Jota asks (of inky), "Better Than Life?"
[Olympics]|17:11 Gunther says, "bacon tomato lettuce"
[Olympics]|17:11 Gunther says, "ilac"
[gripe]|17:11 Gunther says, "bacon tomato lettuce"
[gripe]|17:12 Jota says, "(BLIT is the Berryman Logical Imaging Technique.)"
[gripe]|17:12 Gunther says, "BLIT being bacon lettuce italian tomato"
[gripe]|17:12 BrenBarn says, "who wants italians on their sandwich"
[gripe]|17:12 Gunther says, "penguins"
[gripe]|17:12 inky says, "oh, hunh"
[hardware]|17:12 DorianX asks, "any thoughts on why a KVM wouldn't work quite right?"
[gripe]|17:13 inky says, "for some reason I had the idea it was invented by Stross, although I think I simulataneously knew that wasn't the case"
[hardware]|17:13 DorianX says, "it used to work, now it only sometimes switches"
[gripe]|17:13 Jota says, "( http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/stories/blit.htm )"
[hardware]|17:13 DorianX says, "Usually, if I am on my main computer, I can switch away but not back"
[hardware]|17:13 Gunther says, "I blame Linux"
[hardware]|17:13 DorianX says, "Well, maybe"
[hardware]|17:14 DorianX says, "One computer is linux running X. If I can get there, I can usually switch away"
[hardware]|17:14 DorianX says, "Two more are linux without X"
[hardware]|17:14 DorianX says, "If I switch there, and I can't always, I usually cant switch back"
[hardware]|17:14 DorianX says, "the other one is an appliance"
[hardware]|17:14 DorianX says, "I can never switch back from that one"
[hardware]|17:14 DorianX says, "I tried hooking up external power, that did not help"
[gripe]|17:14 Jota says, "Also, Langford's Wikipedia page says:"
[gripe]|17:15 Jota | Similar references, also mentioning Langford by name, feature in works by Greg Egan and Charles Stross.
[gripe]|17:15 inky says, "yeah"
[gripe]|17:16 jenrexrode says, "yay bacon"
[bacon]|17:16 jenrexrode says, "also, yay bacon"
[channels]|17:16 Johnny says, "yay #bacon"
[lounge]|17:16 Alex says (to what), "Awwwk! Word on the street is that whisper is what you should be doing right now, instead of disturbing everyone. Cad."
[gripe]|17:17 DorianX says (to inky), "Wait, aren't you jewish>"
[lounge]|17:17 inky blinks
[lounge]|17:17 BrenBarn says, "whuh"
[lounge]|17:17 Tale asks, "Hm...I typed aw by accident, what does that do?"
[lounge]|17:17 Alex says (to hey), "Awwwk! Word on the street is that whisper is what you should be doing right now, instead of disturbing everyone. Cad."
[lounge]|17:17 BrenBarn says, "crazy"
[lounge]|17:18 Alex says (to whathehell), "Awwwk! Word on the street is that whisper is what you should be doing right now, instead of disturbing everyone. Cad."
[gripe]|17:18 inky says, "I didn't say bacon!"
[lounge]|17:18 inky | aw * #8312E Owner: Jota Home: #0 puzzle
[lounge]|17:18 inky | Created: 19-Apr-00 22:35:58
[lounge]|17:18 inky | success: @tell("1691", "%4 asks (of Alex), \"What is whisper?\"")
[lounge]|17:18 BrenBarn says, "man"
[gripe]|17:18 DorianX says, "So you didn't"
[gripe]|17:18 DorianX says, "my eyesight is lousy"
[lounge]|17:18 BrenBarn asks, "what the heck was the point of that?"
[gripe]|17:18 inky says, "though "I didn't say bacon, everyone else did" sounds like the sort of defense that doesn't hold up in rabbinical court"
[lounge]|17:18 Alex says (to wwwwright), "Awwwk! Word on the street is that whisper is what you should be doing right now, instead of disturbing everyone. Cad."
[lounge]|17:18 Alex says (to snicklefritz), "Awwwk! Word on the street is that whisper is what you should be doing right now, instead of disturbing everyone. Cad."
[lounge]|17:18 BrenBarn says, "ha ha"
[lounge]|17:19 Alex says (to bacon), "Awwwk! Word on the street is that whisper is what you should be doing right now, instead of disturbing everyone. Cad."
[religion]|17:19 DorianX says, "we took Dylan to a shabbat dinner last night"
[lounge]|17:19 Alex says (to yeeeeeeah), "Awwwk! Word on the street is that whisper is what you should be doing right now, instead of disturbing everyone. Cad."
[religion]|17:20 inky says, "friend of yours"
[religion]|17:20 inky asks, "?"
[religion]|17:20 DorianX says, "He looked really especially cute in the kippah"
[religion]|17:20 DorianX says, "Yeah"
[religion]|17:20 inky says, "hee hee"
[religion]|17:20 DorianX says, "Except that he kept lookign down and it would call off"
[religion]|17:21 Johnny says, "comedic pork chops"
[lounge]|17:21 BrenBarn says, "it's suspicious that Jota disconnected just as it happened"
[religion]|17:21 inky says, "I guess he probably doesn't have enough hair to bobby-pin it to"
[religion]|17:21 Johnny says, "ilac"
[lounge]|17:21 inky says, "it's like tossing a couple handguns into a crowd and then fleeing"
[lounge]|17:21 BrenBarn says, "heh"
[lounge]|17:21 Lucea says, "hey alex take your own advice"
[religion]|17:21 DorianX says, "Yeah, that woulda been tricky"
[lounge]|17:22 jenrexrode says, "or one on those ping pong ball + mouse trap thingeys"
[religion]|17:22 DorianX says, "Oh wikipedia..."
[religion]|17:22 DorianX | Not to be confused with Kipper.
[religion]|17:23 inky says, "smoke me a kippah, I'll be back for shabbos"
[religion]|17:24 DorianX says, "It was batman-themed"
[religion]|17:24 inky asks, "the kippah? or the dinner?"
[religion]|17:24 DorianX says, "which was a lot more comfortable when they made the plans"
[religion]|17:24 Gunther says, "ah, a bat mizvah"
[religion]|17:24 inky says, "hooray"
[DustWorld]|17:24 DavidW says, "Finally emailed the folks about the move and new address and phone number."
[religion]|17:24 DorianX says, "THe dinner. Wll, actuallym teh dinner itself was vegetarian-themed. The evening was batman themed."
[religion]|17:24 Gunther says, "Batman would punch vegetarians while eating a steak with the other hand."
[religion]|17:25 vaporware says, "But bats are carnivores!"
[DustWorld]|17:25 DavidW says, "Carefully skirted around the gay issue, since I'm not out to them, and telling them that Patrick and Kevin are a couple might be a bit of a clue."
[DustWorld]|17:26 inky asks, "who are the folks helping you move?"
[DustWorld]|17:26 DavidW says, "No one's helping me move yet; I plan to hire someone."
[DustWorld]|17:26 inky asks, "oh, wait, the folks = your parents?"
[DustWorld]|17:26 DavidW says, "By 'folks', I meant Dad and Trish."
[DustWorld]|17:26 inky says, "hunh"
[religion]|17:27 DorianX says, "I'm just sorry we didn't meet them until after the Rocky Horror one"
[DustWorld]|17:27 inky says, "little surprised you'e not out to them"
[DustWorld]|17:27 DavidW says, "well, there's been little reason to and some reasons not to."
[religion]|17:28 Gunther asks, "would they have served meat loaf?"
[DustWorld]|17:28 inky asks, "you think they wouldn't take it well?"
[DustWorld]|17:29 DavidW says, "well, it's certainly possible they won't."
[DustWorld]|17:30 DavidW says, "Like, I remember how Dad reacted when I told him I was leaving university and he almost gave himself a heart attack the way he was going."
[DustWorld]|17:30 DavidW says, "Since then, he's actually had a couple minor attacks, and no way do I want to trigger another one,."
[DustWorld]|17:31 Fang asks, "is he very conservative?"
[DustWorld]|17:31 DavidW says, "I want him happy and healthy for as long as possible."
[DustWorld]|17:32 DavidW says (to Fang), "I'm not sure. I'm rather clueless when it comes to politics."
[DustWorld]|17:33 DavidW says, "It's possible that he's already guessed, of course, but as long as the topic is never brought up, it can be denied indefinitely."
[DustWorld]|17:33 BrenBarn says, "well, but what about just in terms of his social/cultural views"
[DustWorld]|17:34 DavidW says, "um I said I'm clueless there? I really don't understand that topic well."
[DustWorld]|17:34 BrenBarn says, "you said you're clueless about politics"
[DustWorld]|17:35 Fang asks, "well, is he very religious, say?"
[DustWorld]|17:35 DavidW says, "Right. I can never remember which party is 'left' and which 'right', which 'Whig' and which 'Tory', etc."
[DustWorld]|17:35 Fang asks, "does he own a dartboard of barack obama?"
[DustWorld]|17:35 Gunther asks, "he's canadian?"
[DustWorld]|17:35 Gunther says, "Tory = Conservat...ive."
[DustWorld]|17:35 DavidW says, "He has no dartboard, and I've never heard him talk about Obama. Yes, Canadian."
[DustWorld]|17:36 Fang asks, "what about the Iraq war?"
[DustWorld]|17:36 Gunther says, "that's Stephen 'fucking' Harper and his cronies"
[DustWorld]|17:36 DavidW says, "I wouldn't've called him religious originally, but since marrying Trish, they are both regular churchgoers (Salvation Army)."
[DustWorld]|17:37 Fang says, "okay, salvation army means trouble, perhaps"
[DustWorld]|17:37 DavidW says (to Fang), "Perhaps. Perhaps not. Hard to tell."
[DustWorld]|17:37 BrenBarn says, "I'm just saying that 'conservative' has meaning outside of politics"
[DustWorld]|17:37 DavidW says, "I can't remember him talking about Iraq or Harper either."
[DustWorld]|17:38 Gunther | Salvation Army Official: Gays Deserve Death
[DustWorld]|17:38 DavidW says (to BrenBarn), "I know. It's confusing. I sorta understand the small-c meaning, wanting things to stay the same."
[DustWorld]|17:40 DavidW says, "and small-l liberal means a willingness to change. But the political versions seem to have blurred to the point where I really can't see much difference between Liberals and Conservatives."
[DustWorld]|17:41 DavidW says, "Or, at least, that used to be the case."
[DustWorld]|17:42 DavidW says, "The Conservatives seemed to absorb a more radical party from out west and have become less rational from what I can tell."
[lounge]|17:42 olethros was sworn in by robed priests on Thursday morning.
[lounge]|17:42 olethros says, "re"
[lounge]|17:43 jenrexrode says, "hi"
[lounge]|17:44 jenrexrode asks, "how's toronto?"
[lounge]|17:44 jenrexrode says, "oh yeah, hot"
[lounge]|17:45 olethros says, "it's alright"
[lounge]|17:45 olethros says, "neither attractive nor repellant."
[lounge]|17:46 olethros says, "*repellent"
[tale]|17:52 Tale says, "Look at that, someone is playing the "The Day I ..." series on ifdb"
[tale]|17:53 DavidW says, "ooh"
[tale]|17:53 DavidW says, "((although I call it the Alex and Paul series))"
[tale]|17:53 Tale says, "Right."
[tale]|17:55 Tale says, "Oh dear, he doesn't like the breaks in the fourth wall. He is not gonna like this series."
[tale]|17:57 DavidW says, "Actually, I got the impression he is liking the series despite his dislike of that feature."
[tale]|17:59 Tale says, "It's not becoming less of a feature"
[lounge]|18:01 Gunther, Geoffrey, and Shamino all represented various aspects of Garriott: his ego, his ego, and his ego, respectively
[DustWorld]|18:01 DavidW says, "hm. Now's the time to try to move some of the stuff near the phone jack, and hope I don't lose my connection."
[DustWorld]|18:03 DavidW says, "hm, Phone guide from 2007-2008. Should probably toss that."
[lounge]|18:04 * borowski has disconnected.
[lounge]|18:04 * borowski has connected.
[photo]|18:11 Jon says, "I need a quick-and-easy way to make a n-up photo sheet out of a bunch of photos."
[photo]|18:11 BrenBarn says, "paste into larger image"
[photo]|18:12 inky asks, "can't imagemagick do it?"
[lunch]|18:12 jenrexrode says, "I think I'll go make a club sandwich"
[photo]|18:12 Jon says, "I think we may have different definitions of quick-and-easy"
[photo]|18:12 Jon asks (of inky), "perhaps it can? do you know the incantation?"
[photo]|18:12 inky says, "or make them one image per page and then use enscript or whatever"
[lunch]|18:12 Johnny says, "I wouldn't eat any sandwich that would have me as a member."
[photo]|18:12 vaporware says, "Print them out, take them to Costco, get them converted to image files on a CD, scan the jewel case insert."
[lunch]|18:12 jenrexrode says, "heh heh"
[lounge]|18:12 Guest1 arrives from the east.
[photo]|18:12 BrenBarn says, "heh"
[lounge]|18:13 jenrexrode says, "hi guest1"
[photo]|18:13 inky asks, "maybe http://www.imagemagick.org/Usage/montage/ ?"
[lounge]|18:13 Tale says, "hey guest1"
[photo]|18:13 vaporware says, "Put them all in a folder, set the folder view to Seriously Huge Icons, maximize the window, hit Print Screen."
[lounge]|18:13 Magellan enters the lounge with you.
[lounge]|18:13 (From Magellan) You can smell the cheese.
[lounge]|18:14 Magellan heads east.
[lounge]|18:15 Johnny asks, "Is that historically accurate?"
[lounge]|18:15 jenrexrode says, "hm"
[lounge]|18:15 Johnny says, "Hi Guest1"
[videogames]|18:16 Fang asks, "how is the DoW2 single player?"
[photo]|18:18 Jon says, "hm, looks like montage will do it if I can figure out the options."
[lounge]|18:18 BrenBarn says, "ha ha"
[lounge]|18:19 Hugo asks, "What the hell are people doing visiting Toronto?"
[lounge]|18:19 * DavidW has disconnected.
[lounge]|18:19 * DavidW has connected.
[photo]|18:19 Jon says, "so instead I just took a screenshot of iPhoto."
[lounge]|18:20 DavidW says, "I don't understand it either."
[lounge]|18:21 Hugo asks, "How long is olethros wherever olethros is?"
[lounge]|18:21 Johnny says, "Too long."
[history]|18:25 Fang reads of Magellan's voyage.
[history]|18:25 Fang | The expedition eked out a small profit, but the crew was not paid full wages.
[history]|18:26 Fang | When Victoria, the one surviving ship, returned to the harbor of departure after completing the first circumnavigation of the Earth, only 18 men out of the original 237 men were on board.
[lounge]|18:28 zaphod goes home.
[lounge]|18:28 * zaphod has disconnected.
[whiz-games]|18:28 Whizzard stretches.
[whiz-games]|18:29 Whizzard says, "Heyo."
[whiz-games]|18:29 Whizzard says, "Welp, read the scenario book for Dys Wars."
[whiz-games]|18:29 Whizzard says, "Kind of a disappointment."
[whiz-games]|18:29 inky asks, "what's that?"
[whiz-games]|18:29 Whizzard says, "Dystopian Wars."
[whiz-games]|18:29 Whizzard says, "That steampunk minis game I play."
[whiz-games]|18:30 Whizzard says, "They came out with a 'scenario book' for it."
[whiz-games]|18:30 Johnny asks, "Not dystopian enough? Too warsy?"
[whiz-games]|18:30 Whizzard says, "Turns out it's 120 pg hardcover book for $40 (I paid $30)."
[lounge]|18:30 McMartin frog blasts the vent core.
[whiz-games]|18:30 Whizzard says, "85 pages is all fluff."
[whiz-games]|18:31 inky says, "that is a pretty high fluff ratio"
[whiz-games]|18:31 Whizzard says, "Another 6 pgs or so are the Antarctica faction's stats reprinted, which I appreciate but can't use directly."
[whiz-games]|18:32 Whizzard says, "Among the other pages are 6 scenarios, and a handful of new rules, mostly for amphibious actions."
[whiz-games]|18:32 Whizzard says, "So, that bit's useful, but $30 is on the high side for what I'd pay for it."
[lounge]|18:33 Guest1 goes home.
[whiz-games]|18:35 Whizzard says, "Anyhow, I'm a bit bummed by it. They've been hyping it for months,"
[whiz-games]|18:37 Whizzard says, "The one really valuable bit is alternate deployment rules which allow you to start with some of your forces further up front, and to have a flanking force enter from one of the 'sides' during turn 1D3."
[lounge]|18:37 Tale is fired from breathing.
[lounge]|18:37 * Tale has disconnected.
[video]|18:38 boucher says, "The music video for 'The Suburbs', by Arcade Fire is...odd.  I'd forgotten of it."
[video]|18:38 boucher says, "O"
[video]|18:38 boucher says, "Er, I'm a fan of music videos as short-form movies that permit innovative storytelling"
[video]|18:39 borowski says, "I don't think I've seen it before."
[video]|18:39 boucher says, "But IIRC, this was actually a short film"
[video]|18:39 boucher says, "It doesn't progress in an expected way.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Euj9f3gdyM "
[whiz-games]|18:40 Whizzard says, "I guess I'm more used to boardgame expansions."
[whiz-games]|18:41 Whizzard says, "If I tried releasing a 3/4 fluff expansion for a boardgame, they'd set me on fire."
[video]|18:41 borowski says, "Yeah, I looked away for a minute and suddenly the whole context changed."
[whiz-games]|18:41 Psmith says, "oh, like they don't anyway."
[whiz-games]|18:41 Whizzard says, "And where I do have a lot of fluff, like on the encounter cards in Arkham, that's always backed with mechanics."
[video]|18:42 boucher says, "It sort of has a nostalgic kids goofing around 'Dazed and Confused' vibe, then...yeah."
[whiz-games]|18:42 Whizzard says, "Actually, I get very little shit for my expansions."
[whiz-games]|18:43 Whizzard says, "I've had several rated as "best expansion evar!", so no worries there. Where I get shit on is for older games and my association with FFG."
[video]|18:46 boucher says, "A Spike Jonze video.  I know people are of mixed opinions of his attempts to do feature-length stuff, even if Being John Malkovich was a pretty interesting and awesome (meta-?) movie in my opinion, but he remains one of the more interesting music video directors."
[video]|18:47 boucher says, "He and Michel Gondry have continual fountains of conceptual creativity."
[video]|18:47 borowski says, "Huh, that video has 7 million something views but Neighborhood #1 only has 76 thousand."
[video]|18:51 boucher asks, "Hmm, is that surprising?"
[video]|18:52 boucher says, "I mean, it's not a bad song, but it's one of their first, didn't chart, and the video isn't even terribly distinctive."
[video]|18:54 borowski says, "True. I'd expect it to be 1/10th as popular but not 1/100th. It's probably personal bias because I really like their first album."
[lounge]|18:55 olethros says, "I guess 'tis time fooor dinnner"
[lounge]|18:55 olethros says, "let's take a random walk"
[lounge]|18:55 Fang asks (of olethros), "isn't it past midnight?"
[lounge]|18:55 olethros says, "I'm in canada"
[lounge]|18:55 Fang asks, "Oh you are?"
[lounge]|18:55 olethros says, "(AAAI)"
[lounge]|18:55 jenrexrode says, "It's about 6pm in TX"
[lounge]|18:56 Fang asks, "AAAI?"
[lounge]|18:56 Fang asks, "Assoc of America AIs?"
[video]|18:57 boucher says, "Also, and this is probably me being old-fashioned about music, YouTube is not my first source for sounds I want to hear, but videos I want to see, so..."
[videogames]|18:57 vaporware says, "Whee. I bought Spelunky and now it won't run."
[videogames]|18:58 vaporware says, "The XBLA demo ran fine. The full version crashes back to the dashboard after the T-for-teen logo."
[video]|18:58 boucher says, "If most of what there is to attract me to something is the song, I will seek other sources.  I don't need to watch a mediocre video, or even worse, a photo of an album's cover art, just to hear a song."
[videogames]|19:00 boucher says, "I'm sure, if it's not fixed in short order, that's a cause for a refund if I ever heard of one."
[lounge]|19:00 jenrexrode | http://www.aaai.org/Conferences/AAAI/aaai12.php/ ??
[video]|19:01 borowski says, "Yeah."
[videogames]|19:02 vaporware says, "Oddly, when I bought it, it downloaded a second copy to the internal 'memory unit' instead of just unlocking the demo which was on the hard drive. Maybe deleting both and reinstalling will help."
[video]|19:02 borowski says, "Especially given the sound quality of some youtube videos."
[videogames]|19:03 vaporware says, "There we go."
[seattle]|19:08 Jon | http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/867330218/the-raygun-lounge
[seattle]|19:08 Jon says, "this looks cool"
[seattle]|19:09 inky says, "I've never been to gamma ray games but it is supposedly pretty good"
[seattle]|19:11 Jon says, "if I lived in Seattle, I'd be all over some of these $100 or $500 options"
[lounge]|19:12 olethros has ordered three mega-generators to be installed in his boathouse.
[jacq-chat]|19:21 Jacqueline says, "Hm, I swore I was going to get some work stuff done today before my trip.  Also, laundry for trip.  Guess I'd better get on that."
[jacq-chat]|19:21 Jacqueline says, "But first, another delicious crumpet."
[jacq-chat]|19:22 DavidW says, "Hunt the Crumpet"
[lounge]|19:22 zarf walks in through the wall. Behind him, light shines briefly through, rich crimson this time of day.
[DustWorld]|19:22 Jacqueline asks, "How's the move going?"
[DustWorld]|19:22 DavidW says, "so far, so good."
[DustWorld]|19:22 DavidW says, "I have a zillion boxes packed, the key to the new place, and I'm on good terms with my current roommate again."
[DustWorld]|19:23 Jacqueline says, "Nice."
[DustWorld]|19:23 Jacqueline says, "And did I hear you're hiring someone to help you move?  That sounds expensive."
[DustWorld]|19:23 jenrexrode says, "and didn't get disconnected"
[DustWorld]|19:23 DavidW says, "The room-to-be is emptied out and needs to be painted and the carpets need cleaning."
[DustWorld]|19:23 DavidW says (to jen), "Actually, I did lose the connection."
[DustWorld]|19:23 Jacqueline asks, "Is it a bigger room?  Nicer room?  Neither?"
[ifdb]|19:24 * NewsBoy hollers, "Extra! Extra! zarf has posted message 3, about 'IFDB MySQL dump now available', to the bulletin board! Beetle boop!"
[DustWorld]|19:24 DavidW says, "It's neither a bigger nor nicer room, but there's lots of fringe benefits. Cheaper rent, a/c, friendlier housemates, patio, bbq, wifi."
[DustWorld]|19:24 jenrexrode says, "aw"
[ifdb]|19:25 Johnny says, "yay. I forgot my passwo aww"
[ifdb]|19:25 zarf says, "heh"
[DustWorld]|19:26 DavidW says, "The new room is in a basement and it has a false ceiling, so I imagine I won't be able to use the tops of any of my bookcases or shelving units."
[lounge]|19:26 Lucea is gonna get back baby bad balls to you, love, cretin.
[lounge]|19:26 * Lucea has disconnected.
[DustWorld]|19:26 DavidW says, "also, the furnace is on the other side of one wall, so there might be a constant noise irritant."
[jacq-chat]|19:26 Jacqueline says, "Hm, also, #bath."
[lounge]|19:27 jenrexrode says, "wow, Sphinx cats come from Toronto"
[DustWorld]|19:27 DavidW says, "And there's no closet. I'll instead be using a clothes-rack in the hall and a cupboard in the basement bathroom."
[DustWorld]|19:28 Jacqueline asks, "And your old roommate's having his dad move in or something?  What's the story again?"
[lounge]|19:28 Jon says, "Makes sense."
[lounge]|19:29 Jon says, "Toronto is where a lot of weird things happen."
[lounge]|19:29 Jon says, "They probably just climbed through from another universe there."
[DustWorld]|19:29 DavidW says, "welllll, his dad will be coming down in October, he tells me. But it also seems likely that roommate will be moving back to South Africa as early as December."
[DustWorld]|19:30 jenrexrode | folding chair wardrobe https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=501481426535218&set=a.502306729786021.134633.200652089951488&type=1&relevant_count=1
[DustWorld]|19:30 DavidW says, "And Michael will likely be staying here in August regardless of any of the above while DJ is overseas."
[lounge]|19:30 jenrexrode says, "heh, it did start with one hairless cat"
[ifdb]|19:30 inky says, "hunh"
[DustWorld]|19:30 DavidW says (to jen), "yeah, I saw that posting earlier. It's a bit weird."
[DustWorld]|19:31 jenrexrode says, "heh"
[DustWorld]|19:32 DavidW says, "I have several of those ?-o-o-o-o-o-? things that let you hang 5 things on them, then drop one hook off the rack so it's more compact on the rod."
[DustWorld]|19:32 jenrexrode says, "cool"
[DustWorld]|19:33 jenrexrode says, "so that' would need a rod at standard height"
[DustWorld]|19:33 DavidW says, "yeah, exactly."
[DustWorld]|19:34 DavidW says, "y'know, for extra coolness, it would be nice to have one of those theatre widgets that hoists flats up and down, and use that sort of system to raise and lower clothes into the room."
[DustWorld]|19:36 DavidW says, "Perhaps someone should suggest that to Bat-Girl if she ever gets tired of her revolving wall."
[ifdb]|19:37 DavidW says, "oh, I guess I should look at this."
[ifdb]|19:38 zarf says, "the format is kind of a pain in the ass, unless you already have a mysql instance running soemwhere"
[ifdb]|19:38 DavidW asks, "I don't see a mention in the site news?"
[ifdb]|19:38 zarf says, "I just posted it in intfiction"
[ifdb]|19:38 DavidW says, "oh"
[DustWorld]|19:39 Jacqueline says, "Huh.  I'd forgotten all about those ?-o-o-o-o-o-? things.  I've never used them - cool to know that they work.  I do, however, have several of these:"
[DustWorld]|19:39 Jacqueline | http://www.amazon.com/InterDesign-Orbinni-Over-the-Door-Rack-Chrome/dp/B004CR59LC
[ifdb]|19:39 DavidW says, "I don't know much about mysql, but I do extract info from ifdb manually fairly often."
[DustWorld]|19:39 Jacqueline says, "We've found that on our doors we can hang two (one facing each side of the door)."
[DustWorld]|19:40 DavidW says, "oh yeah, I have an inferior version of that door thing that my grandmother owned."
[weather]|19:41 jenrexrode says, "argh 97"
[ifdb]|19:42 inky says, "you could get mysql running on your computer pretty straightforwardly"
[ifdb]|19:42 inky says, "or get vimes to get you set up on the instance running on plover"
[DustWorld]|19:43 DavidW says, "hm, pretty sure vimes already set me up for plover db goodness. I haven't touched it in ages, though,."
[DustWorld]|19:43 DavidW says, "ilac"
[DustWorld]|19:43 Jacqueline says, "These are pretty sturdy and stylish and I recommend them.  You can find them on lots of sites."
[ifdb]|19:43 DavidW says, "hm, pretty sure vimes already set me up for plover db goodness. I haven't touched it in ages, though,."
[DustWorld]|19:43 DavidW says, "yeah, I might get one."
[DustWorld]|19:44 DavidW says, "I'm thinking maybe when I do the move, have all the furniture put in the room and all the boxes almost anywhere else, and that way I can assemble the room first, then bring the boxes in to unpack one by one."
[DustWorld]|19:46 DavidW says, "'Cause otherwise, I could be spending all of August just rearranging my room like a heavy Rubic's Cube."
[lounge]|19:48 Emily arrives.
[ifdb]|19:49 inky says, "or like this http://www.mathplayground.com/slidingblock.html "
[ifdb]|19:49 inky says, "er"
[DustWorld]|19:49 inky says, "wor like this http://www.mathplayground.com/slidingblock.html "
[ifdb]|19:49 vimes says, "i can re-set-up whatever if you don't remember your password and stuff"
[ifdb]|19:52 DavidW says, "hm, looking at the .sql file in notepad, I see that at least one links to one of my walkthroughs is out of date."
[DustWorld]|19:52 jenrexrode says, "like 11th hour with the piano"
[DustWorld]|19:56 DavidW says, "I'm only so-so with that sort of puzzle."
[DustWorld]|19:57 DavidW says, "But yeah, moving can be quite a bit like that. I have a bookcase in one corner quite blocked from moving by several boxes and a table."
[lounge]|19:58 Ellison goes back to Squeamhurst..
[lounge]|19:58 * Ellison has disconnected.
[DustWorld]|19:58 DavidW says, "At some point, I will have to move a heck of a lot just to get it out of the room so I can disassemble it."
[tangent]|19:58 jenrexrode asks, "did someone here work on 11th hour or 7th guest?"
[ifdb]|19:59 DavidW says (to vimes), "I'm sure I have the passwords and info written down in my special notebook; I just haven't had the time to devote myself to that project yet."
[birds]|20:00 jenrexrode says, "white wing doves like drinking from the dog bowl"
[jendoodle]|20:00 jenrexrode says, "wearing latex gloves - about to put some wood conditioner on the table I've been working on"
[tangent]|20:03 zarf asks, "you mean like 'wrote' or 'played'?"
[lounge]|20:03 lpsmith will not type in all the terms; just let it be said someone wore out their thesaurus on this chart.
[videogames]|20:06 vaporware says, "I dropped my OnLive controller off the bed last night while it was plugged in to charge. (There's a micro USB socket on the controller and it comes with a long USB-to-micro cable.)"
[videogames]|20:07 vaporware says, "Anyway, it landed on the connector, and not only did the connector on the cable bend, but the socket in the controller broke right off."
[videogames]|20:08 vaporware says, "Maybe micro USB isn't the best type of connection for this. At the very least it should be recessed."
[videogames]|20:11 inky says, "man"
[videogames]|20:15 vimes says, "i'm of the opinion that apple's magsafe connector (see also the power cables for deep fryers and similar) is the only sane way to do that sort of thing"
[videogames]|20:16 Jacqueline says (to vimes), "Yes"
[jacq-chat]|20:17 vimes asks (of jacqueline), "are you feeling better, i hope?"
[lounge]|20:19 Psmith queries his existence.
[videogames]|20:21 inky says, "unfortunately, they have it patented, so"
[tangent]|20:23 jenrexrode says, "wrote"
[tangent]|20:23 Johnny says, "I don't think there's anyone here you need to be mad at."
[tangent]|20:23 Johnny says, "For that at least."
[tangent]|20:24 jenrexrode says, "heh heh"
[personals]|20:27 BrenBarn says, "there is a user called BigHairBiggrAss"
[personals]|20:27 BrenBarn says, "maybe she doesn't realize that if your ass is bigger than your hair, you have ass cancer"
[comics]|20:28 DavidW says, "heh. Found my copy of Marvel Team-Up: Aunt May and Franklin Richards vs. Galactus."
[comics]|20:28 Johnny says, "In which they get eaten and punch their way out."
[comics]|20:28 Johnny says, "One assumes."
[lounge]|20:29 Emily goes home.
[lounge]|20:29 * Emily has disconnected.
[comics]|20:30 Johnny says (to marktwo), "portcullis"
[comics]|20:30 Johnny says, "ilac"
[lounge]|20:31 borowski is no longer available on this server and there is no forwarding address. Please remove all references to this resource.
[lounge]|20:31 * borowski has disconnected.
[comics]|20:31 DavidW says, "well, more like Galactus embues Aunt May with the Power Cosmic and she become the Golden Oldie, and Franklin offers Galactus his package of Grosstess brand Twinkles."
[comics]|20:32 inky says, "hmm"
[comics]|20:34 DavidW says, "The package of Twinkles contains the right energy Galactus needs, so Golden Oldie finds every Twinkles on earth to feed Galactus's hunger. That's not quite enough, so then Golden Oldie finds a planet-sized Twinkle for him to eat."
[photo]|20:35 Jacqueline says, "Cool, a university program wants to use one of my images for the cover of dual-language Medieval lit edition."
[comics]|20:35 DavidW says, "The cosmic snack chef promises to make more Twinkles for Galactus, and thus Galactus doesn't need Aunt May as his herald anymore and returns her to Earth."
[photo]|20:35 Jacqueline says, "Hopefully I can find a higher res image - the one they want was taken in 2005 with a 2mp camera.  I'm not sure I can find what they want."
[photo]|20:36 Jacqueline says, "It's a favorite image of mine, though, and great for what they want if I can find a high enough quality image."
[photo]|20:36 Jacqueline | http://www.allthingsjacq.com/images/Paris/notre_dame_stained_glass_prayer.jpg
[lounge]|20:36 borowski gives the lounge 50 fountain pens out of a typewriter.
[comics]|20:37 DavidW says, "Then Galactus wants a glass of milk."
[lounge]|20:37 jenrexrode says, "hi"
[lounge]|20:37 Johnny says, "Hi borowski"
[lounge]|20:37 borowski says, "Hey JRR, everybody"
[photo]|20:37 jenrexrode says, "cool"
[weather]|20:37 borowski says, "It's been thundering on and off all day."
[comics]|20:38 DavidW says, "Then Peter Parker wakes up: It was just a dream. Then the editor wakes up. Then the editor-in-chief wakes up. Then Stan Lee wakes up. Then Galactus wakes up. Then everyone else wakes up. Just a dream in a dream in a dream in a ... etc."
[comics]|20:38 vimes says, "Then the audience wakes up.  Then Puck wakes up.  Then Shakespere wakes up.  Then Bacon wakes up."
[weather]|20:38 borowski says, "At least the clouds have been keeping it a little cooler."
[jendoodle]|20:39 jenrexrode says, "the latex gloves fell apart, even with just the pre-stain conditioner.  good thing I have a pair of nitrile gloves"
[weather]|20:39 borowski says, "I just learned today that Windows 7 and Ubuntu will resize a window to half the screen width in you drag it to the edge of the screen. I've been doing it the hard way for years."
[jendoodle]|20:39 jenrexrode says, "they're black, so I'm really glad I'm not in the sun"
[weather]|20:39 borowski says, "ILAC"
[i-am-an-idiot]|20:39 borowski says, "I just learned today that Windows 7 and Ubuntu will resize a window to half the screen width in you drag it to the edge of the screen. I've been doing it the hard way for years."
[lounge]|20:39 Emily arrives.
[lounge]|20:40 Johnny says, "Hi Em"
[Windows-sux]|20:40 jenrexrode says, "and it makes the little windows full size when you do that, which is a PITA"
[videogames]|20:41 vaporware says, "The original Xbox had a decent setup with the breakaway cable, but it was permanently corded."
[videogames]|20:42 vaporware says, "Do deep fryers also use magnetic connectors? Mine doesn't."
[videogames]|20:43 vimes says, "every one i've owned has"
[videogames]|20:44 vimes says, "also, many but not all electric skillets"
[videogames]|20:44 vaporware says, "Is there anything special about Apple's patented version? Wikipedia says it 'works exactly the same' as connectors on deep fryers etc."
[firstworldproblems]|20:45 borowski says, "Sound isn't working in Dwarf Fortress so I have to say "beyond quality" myself."
[videogames]|20:45 vimes says, "hmm, i presume it's some combination of reversable and indicator light showing current and/or charge"
[i-am-an-idiot]|20:49 Johnny | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiling_window_manager#Third-party_addons
[i-am-an-idiot]|20:49 Johnny says, "If you want to go nuts."
[i-am-an-idiot]|20:54 borowski says, "ooo fancy"
[lounge]|20:55 olethros was sworn in by robed priests on Thursday morning.
[lounge]|20:55 olethros says, "re"
[obvious]|21:03 olethros | £13tn: hoard hidden from taxman by global elite
[obvious]|21:03 olethros | http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/jul/21/global-elite-tax-offshore-economy
[obvious]|21:04 olethros | The top 10 private banks, [...] managed more than £4tn in 2010, a sharp rise from £1.5tn five years earlier
[jendoodle]|21:10 jenrexrode says, "not sure if it's a good thing that I had everything I needed to do this table project or not.  All I bought was clamps, and the cost of those will be spread out over their lifetime."
[jendoodle]|21:11 inky says, "ha ha"
[inform]|21:13 vaporware says, "What's the deal with the cover art on the DM4? http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/0971311935/ref=dp_image_0?ie=UTF8&n=283155&s=books "
[inform]|21:13 zarf asks, "what about it?"
[inform]|21:14 vaporware says, "It's the severed wing of.. some kind of bird."
[inform]|21:14 vaporware asks, "Is that significant to Inform somehow? Is it a famous wing?"
[inform]|21:14 vimes says, "i've always seen it as 'taking apart beautiful things to see the ugly stuff that makes them'"
[lounge]|21:15 Emily says, "hey"
[lounge]|21:16 olethros has ordered three mega-generators to be installed in his boathouse.
[inform]|21:16 vaporware says, "ah, 'Wing of a Roller' by Duerer"
[lounge]|21:16 olethros was sworn in by robed priests on Thursday morning.
[Canada]|21:17 olethros says, "the CN tower is tall"
[Canada]|21:18 DavidW says, "Yes, it is. It had a height record at some point, if you included the antenna."
[Canada]|21:19 olethros says, "yeah, and it still is the tallest structure in the western hemisphere according to wikipedia"
[Canada]|21:19 olethros says, "it is however dwarfed by the collossal Burj Khalifa"
[Canada]|21:20 olethros says, "(which looks like an artist's insane painting)"
[Canada]|21:20 olethros says, "went to chinatown, had chinese"
[Canada]|21:21 olethros says, "across the street there is this 'volos' greek restaurant which has raving reviews from tripadvisor. I am somewhat tempted"
[lounge]|21:23 jenrexrode says, "re"
[Canada]|21:26 Hugo asks, "Where did you go for Chinese?"
[Canada]|21:26 olethros says (to hugo), "random place in chinatown"
[Canada]|21:26 Hugo says, "But..they're all random places!"
[lounge]|21:26 Ellison has appeared in three Bigfoot/Abominable Snowman-themed movies: Bigfoot: The Unforgettable Encounter, Little Bigfoot and Abominable.
[lounge]|21:26 jenrexrode says, "hi"
[Canada]|21:27 olethros says, "I will use my fortune cookie to choose the next"
[lounge]|21:27 Ellison says, "hey hey"
[lounge]|21:27 Hugo says, "Speaking of rave reviews from TripAdvisor, it's Ellison."
[Canada]|21:28 DavidW says, "I seem to remember there was a group called the Serial Diners in Toronto. Their mission: to eat at every restaurant in the phone book in alphabetical order."
[lounge]|21:28 Hugo says, "Well, not all rave, I guess.  There was that mass food poisoning from a couple years back."
[lounge]|21:28 Ellison says, "it rated me three acid blots"
[Canada]|21:28 olethros says, "also, toronto is the only place where I saw a Police Museum"
[Canada]|21:29 DavidW asks, "hm, I don't remember one of those. Whereabouts?"
[Canada]|21:30 olethros says, "somewhere south east of the university"
[Canada]|21:31 DavidW says, "mm"
[Canada]|21:31 Hugo says, "Headquarters."
[Canada]|21:31 Hugo says, "College and Bay."
[Canada]|21:31 olethros | http://www.torontopolice.on.ca/museum/
[Canada]|21:32 DavidW says, "neat"
[Canada]|21:34 DavidW says, "I remember once the Science Centre had an exhibit on auto safety, and another on counterfeit money; perhaps the Centre was borrowing from that museum."
[Canada]|21:35 olethros says, "probably"
[Canada]|21:35 olethros says, "also went to the ULTIMATE DINOSAUR exhibition"
[Canada]|21:36 olethros says, "hmmm maybe I will go to the beaches tomorrow"
[Canada]|21:38 Hugo says, "Spoken like a real Torontonian."
[Canada]|21:38 Hugo asks, "Where are you staying?"
[i-am-an-idiot]|21:41 * jenrexrode has joined the channel.
[i-am-a-genius]|21:41 * jenrexrode has joined the channel.
[Canada]|21:41 * jenrexrode has joined the channel.
[channels]|21:42 jenrexrode asks, "like that combo?"
[channels]|21:42 inky says, "heh"
[lounge]|21:43 jenrexrode wanders off.
[lounge]|21:43 jenrexrode has entered the lounge. [ Your score has gone up by 10 points ]
[Canada]|21:44 olethros says, "sheraton, downtown"
[Canada]|21:45 olethros says, "oh, I didn't know you also lived in canada"
[Canada]|21:45 Hugo says, "I used to live about a block from there."
[Canada]|21:46 olethros asks, "which city are you now living in?"
[Canada]|21:46 Hugo says, "Oakville."
[Canada]|21:46 DavidW says, "Goodness."
[Canada]|21:46 DavidW says, "I grew up next door to Oakville, in Burlington."
[Canada]|21:46 olethros says, "hey, that's kinda close"
[Canada]|21:47 Hugo says, "It's a small golden horseshoe."
[Canada]|21:47 DavidW says, "(The dividing road is charmlingly named Burloak Drive.)"
[Canada]|21:50 olethros asks (of hugo), "I don't suppose you would find time for a meetup?"
[Canada]|21:51 Hugo asks, "How long are you around?"
[Canada]|21:52 olethros says, "leaving on the 27th"
[gayrights]|21:52 genericgeekgirl says, "Yay, Boston! Chick-Fil-A wants to open a restaurant here, and the mayor is all "No, fuck you. We love gay people.""
[Canada]|21:52 Hugo asks, "In/around Toronto until then?"
[Canada]|21:53 olethros says, "yup."
[gayrights]|21:53 borowski says, "Heck yeah"
[Canada]|21:54 Hugo says, "Let me see; I wasn't planning to be downtown, but I can always make a trip if I'm able to."
[gayrights]|21:55 inky says, "I wonder if that is purely symbolic or if the mayor can actually do something about it"
[gayrights]|21:56 Ellison says, "I'm going to become a 4square mayor and then shut places down"
[Canada]|21:56 olethros says, "ok. Tomorrow and Monday are relatively free - then... I should be at the conference mostly, and I guess I should not miss the dinner on the 25th (nom nom)"
[lounge]|21:56 borowski is no longer available on this server and there is no forwarding address. Please remove all references to this resource.
[lounge]|21:56 * borowski has disconnected.
[finance]|21:56 olethros says, "so, I dunno about other counties, but in germany I could call my personal banker whenever I wanted"
[gayrights]|21:57 genericgeekgirl says, "It's mostly symbolic, but http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1061147180 points out that with enough h enough red tape, they could effectively be denied."
[finance]|21:57 olethros says, "(it was the only time when I needed to)"
[lounge]|21:57 borowski gives the lounge 50 fountain pens out of a typewriter.
[gayrights]|21:57 genericgeekgirl says, "And I fail at forming coherent thoughts, apparently."
[lounge]|21:58 Emily goes home.
[lounge]|21:58 * Emily has disconnected.
[Canada]|21:58 Hugo says, "Okay, let me see if there's some reason I can't Monday and I'll let you know."
[finance]|22:00 olethros says, "da"
[Canada]|22:00 olethros says, "da"
[lounge]|22:00 jenrexrode says, "re"
[finance]|22:00 olethros says, "but this here article says"
[Canada]|22:00 jenrexrode says, "and on your way, pick up DW"
[finance]|22:01 olethros | I nstead of a Mumbai call centre, customers will have the mobile number of their private banker..
[finance]|22:01 olethros says, "I don't think I ever got to a mumbai call center when I called my bank"
[Canada]|22:01 DavidW says, "Cambridge isn't exactly en route from Oakville to Toronto."
[finance]|22:01 olethros says, "(ok, I dint have my banker's mobile in frankfurt - but we were emailing)"
[lounge]|22:04 borowski is no longer available on this server and there is no forwarding address. Please remove all references to this resource.
[lounge]|22:04 * borowski has disconnected.
[movie]|22:05 K-Y says, "to remind us that this whole blitz isn't over yet, they stuck the Man of Steel trailer in front of DKR"
[movie]|22:05 K-Y says, "oh, huh, there were two versions"
[Canada]|22:05 jenrexrode says, "it was worth a try"
[newchannel]|22:06 Jacqueline says, "#roller-derby"
[movie]|22:06 Ellison says, "huh, I didn't get that"
[movie]|22:07 jenrexrode asks, "who was it that they showed the DKR trailer before DKR?"
[newchannel]|22:07 Jacqueline says, "Well, our main season ended.  There are playoffs and stuff."
[newchannel]|22:07 Jacqueline says, "ILAC"
[rollercoaster]|22:10 * borowski has joined the channel.
[movie]|22:15 olethros says, "oh that would be annoying"
[lounge]|22:15 borowski gives the lounge 50 fountain pens out of a typewriter.
[lounge]|22:16 borowski says, "Sorry for the lounge spam. I was getting my client's spell checking to work."
[movie]|22:16 K-Y says, "also, full DKR soundtrack is streaming http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=34498 "
[movie]|22:17 K-Y says, "I say 'full' even though this appears to be even shorter than the soundtrack for the last one"
[gameofthrones]|22:17 olethros says, "time to get back to seeing how X will use Y to do Z"
[gameofthrones]|22:17 olethros says, "I so far like how even chapters with not much point are put to some good use by developing the characters a little further"
[gameofthrones]|22:18 olethros says, "also, #spoilers"
[DustWorld]|22:24 DavidW says, "hm. Another week of packing like this and I may well be ready to move."
[DustWorld]|22:26 DavidW says, "I'm starting to see floor."
[DustWorld]|22:27 jenrexrode says, "yay"
[DustWorld]|22:34 DavidW says, "It's cute how the loose stuff gravitates to remaining shelves or tops of box stacks."
[lounge]|22:43 Miseri regularly eats multiples of things inky wouldn't eat more than zero of.
[lounge]|22:43 Miseri says, "arrr"
[lounge]|22:44 jenrexrode says, "hiii"
[jendoodle]|22:44 jenrexrode says, "well if I can't find wipe on poly, I guess I'll have to buy it"
[DustWorld]|22:45 borowski says, "Hooray for gravity!"
[DustWorld]|22:47 DavidW says, "Wingardium Marvelosa!"
[DustWorld]|22:49 Jacqueline says, "heh"
[DustWorld]|22:49 jenrexrode asks, "does that turn it all into birds?"
[DustWorld]|22:50 borowski says, "Marvelous birds!"
[lounge]|22:51 olethros has ordered three mega-generators to be installed in his boathouse.
[DustWorld]|22:52 DavidW says, "I would like to know why the Arkansas Green Tag that I'm finding in the sweet potatoes' boxes I'm getting from the store this week say 'Crop Year: 2011'."
[TSD]|22:52 Bishop | But here, thanks to the efforts of Pamela Jackson, Jonathan Lethem and a team of assistants, is a Dick which is a bit much for me to cope with. It is a monster Dick. In sheer girth it's about seven or eight times larger than most Dicks, and three times larger even than most omnibus Dicks. As far as the actual experience of it goes, it's a little bit of an ordeal; Dicks are known for being an acquired taste to begin with, but there is much about this one which is quite hard to swallow. As it goes through its repetitive motions, there's no building to a satisfying thematic climax; you just slog on and on, taking more and more in until you have to take a break.
[DustWorld]|22:54 DavidW asks, "Is it possible that our store is getting sweet potatoes that are a year old?"
[DustWorld]|22:56 jenrexrode says, "i guess so, they're roots, and I think if you have a proper root cellar the keep for a while."
[DustWorld]|22:56 Jacqueline says, "I *think* (just a guess) that sweet potatoes are a winter crop, and may have been planted in 2011 but harvested in 2012 or, like jen said, might just be that they've been stored.  They last a long time."
[DustWorld]|22:56 jenrexrode says, "but I think they Texas 10-15 onion is planted on 10-15"
[DustWorld]|22:58 jenrexrode says, "yeah, 1015's come to market in mid-april"
[DustWorld]|22:58 DavidW says, "oh"
[lounge]|23:00 Dave says, "morning"
[lounge]|23:00 jenrexrode asks, "where?"
[web-toons]|23:00 Fang says, "SMBC hahaha"
[videogames]|23:01 Fang completes an ending of Analogue...
[dinner]|23:01 jenrexrode asks, "!?"
[dinner]|23:01 Jacqueline asks, "??"
[videogames]|23:02 Fang says, "okay, I understand why it's about cosplay now"
[TV]|23:02 jenrexrode says, "HGTV - decorating a yurt"
[TV]|23:03 jenrexrode says, "my street always smells like grilled hamburgers"
[TV]|23:03 jenrexrode says, "ilac"
[dinner]|23:03 jenrexrode says, "my street always smells like grilled hamburgers"
[dinner]|23:04 jenrexrode says, "so after being on the front porch for a couple of hours,  my brain thinks there's a hamburger on the way"
[dinner]|23:04 jenrexrode says, "well not always, only when the bar down the street is cooking burgers"
[lounge]|23:06 Dave says, "it's morning somewhere"
[lounge]|23:06 Dave says, "I just decided a long time ago to always use "morning" as my standard mud appearance greeting"
[lounge]|23:06 jenrexrode says, "ah"
[lounge]|23:07 jenrexrode says, "I only say that when I'm working nightshift"
[lounge]|23:07 Dave says, "at work I actually say "morning ladies", regardless of the gender of those to whom I'm speaking"
[food]|23:07 BrenBarn says, "that was a nice bonus"
[food]|23:08 BrenBarn says, "I went to this place and ordered a pulled pork sandwich"
[food]|23:08 jenrexrode says, "yum"
[food]|23:08 BrenBarn says, "they gave me my sandwich and I bit into it to find that it was actually a crab cake sandwich"
[food]|23:08 BrenBarn says, "when I told them of the error, they gave me a pulled pork, but I still got to eat the crab cake one too"
[food]|23:08 jenrexrode says, "yay"
[videogames]|23:10 Fang says, "hmm, now I have to figure out how to get the 'harem' ending"
[food]|23:10 BrenBarn says, "it became a sizable meal"
[food]|23:11 inky says, "perhaps the pork was pulled into a crab"
[food]|23:12 BrenBarn says, "using the chef-philosopher's stone"
[personals]|23:12 BrenBarn | Looking for a big/tall or big and tall guy - 39
[videogames]|23:13 Fang says, "I'm guessing it's about getting one character to communicate with the other..."
[videogames]|23:13 Fang says, "but how? Hmm..."
[personals]|23:13 inky says, "I wonder what that means"
[personals]|23:19 BrenBarn says, "I was guessing it means big and/or tall"
[lounge]|23:22 Rob comes right on in.
[lounge]|23:22 Rob says, "zblrp"
[lounge]|23:23 inky says, "hey it's Rob"
[lounge]|23:24 Rob says, "hey weird"
[kitties]|23:25 borowski says, "Eek, I think Messy got caught in the rain."
[Infocom]|23:25 Rob says, "mike berlyn still at it"
[Infocom]|23:27 Rob says, "hmm"
[ifdb]|23:27 Rob says, "hmm"
[movie]|23:27 Ellison watches the 'man of steel' trailers. "ah, so they make Superman a deep-sea fisherman, I see. leaving the door open for an Aquaman movie, I suppose."
[ifdb]|23:27 Rob says, "I wonder what else you could do with the ifdb database"
[css]|23:28 Dave says, "pie.htc is useful"
[movie]|23:28 inky says, "heh"
[lounge]|23:30 nothings enters the lounge. What do you, the detective, want to do about it?
[lounge]|23:30 (From nothings) >
[lounge]|23:30 Rob says, "yo\"
[lounge]|23:30 nothings says, "howdy"
[ifdb]|23:31 Rob says, "skin it differently I guess"
[ifdb]|23:31 Rob says, "make an app out of it"
[ifdb]|23:32 Rob says, "relaunch as a social network platform"
[ifdb]|23:32 Rob says, "visit a local dairy and see how milk is made"
[ifdb]|23:32 vimes says, "randomly generate reviews using marktwo"
[ifdb]|23:33 Rob says, "review-o-the-day"
[lounge]|23:35 Fang is told of the death of Christ, and becomes so angry that the brain bursts from his head, and he dies. The blood from the wound baptises him as a Christian, and his soul goes to heaven.
[lounge]|23:37 Jota arrives from the east.
[lounge]|23:37 Jota greets.
[ifdb]|23:41 DavidW says, "When I get the time, I'll attempt to datamine the file to populate my own version of IF data. which I use to generate various things."
[lounge]|23:46 jenrexrode says, "hi"
[youtube]|23:52 Miseri finds recordings of 'Les Miserables' in Hebrew.
[lounge]|23:52 jenrexrode says, "and just like that"
[kitties]|23:55 jenrexrode asks, "did she come in?"
[kitties]|23:55 borowski says, "I just let her in and dried her off."
[kitties]|23:57 borowski says, "The front porch stays dry when it rains, but I guess she just hides where ever the rain catches her."
[lounge]|23:58 Ellison asks, "what, the death of conversation?"
[lounge]|23:58 jenrexrode says, "yup"
[lounge]|23:59 Ellison says, "it died a good death"
[lounge]|23:59 borowski says, "Brave and proud until the end."
[lounge]|23:59 jenrexrode says, "but it was so young"
[lounge]|00:00 Ellison says, "it laid a lot of eggs, destined to hatch one day"
[lounge]|00:00 borowski says, "But it was aging backwards."
[dinner]|00:01 jenrexrode says, "went to Taco Bell and got the new cantina bowl - got the chicken version.  oops.  Shoulda got the veggie - that's the one with the avocado, I bet, because none in this."
[dinner]|00:01 borowski asks, "Good?"
[movie]|00:02 borowski says, "Hooray, Adam West in Zombie Nightmare."
[dinner]|00:02 jenrexrode says, "it was all right.  Probably needs dessart after"
[lounge]|00:03 DavidW . o O ( But it was aging backwards. / but it was so young / Brave and proud until the end. / it died a good death / yup / what, the death of conversation? / and just like that )
[lounge]|00:03 jenrexrode says, "heh"
[lounge]|00:03 borowski says, "Excellent"
[dessert]|00:04 jenrexrode says, "flan"
[lounge]|00:06 borowski says, ""It laid a lot of eggs, destined to hatch one day" could be the title."
[DustWorld]|00:07 DavidW says, "ugh. My fingernails are filthy. They're rarely this bad."
[DustWorld]|00:07 DavidW says, "All this packing of dusty dusty stuff."
[DustWorld]|00:08 jenrexrode asks, "are you preserving the dust?"
[DustWorld]|00:08 DavidW says, "no, not intentionally. I can always make more,."
[lounge]|00:09 BrenBarn says, "it's a new media poem"
[DustWorld]|00:09 DavidW says, "And since one of my new roomies has a dust allergy, I'd like to not expose him to more dust than necessary."
[lounge]|00:10 Miseri is very disappointed in you.  Earlier, he may have ransacked your office, but he is *very* disappointed in you.
[DustWorld]|00:11 borowski says, "Are you thinking about getting rid of any stuff? I'm always looking out for interesting used books."
[DustWorld]|00:12 DavidW says, "yes, I will want to get rid of some stuff, but I plan to do that mostly at the other end of the move."
[lounge]|00:12 Emily arrives.
[DustWorld]|00:12 borowski says, "Ah, OK."
[DustWorld]|00:12 DavidW asks, "What sort of books would you be interested in?"
[DustWorld]|00:14 borowski says, "Anything interesting or unusual. So not the Iliad but maybe an obscure sci-fi novel or something like that."
[DustWorld]|00:16 borowski says, "Something that I wouldn't have thought about picking up on my own."
[DustWorld]|00:16 DavidW says, "hm. I'll try to remember that."
[DustWorld]|00:16 borowski says, "OK, thanks."
[lounge]|00:17 Marktwo goes home.
[lounge]|00:17 * Marktwo has disconnected.
[lounge]|00:17 * boucher has disconnected.
[lounge]|00:17 * boucher has connected.
[lounge]|00:18 * boucher has disconnected.
[lounge]|00:18 * boucher has connected.
[lounge]|00:19 Marktwo enters, then jumps up, wrapping its arms and legs around you and shouting, "Daddy! Daddy!"
[books]|00:20 jenrexrode | http://www.amazon.com/Mutant-59-Plastic-Eaters-Kit-Pedler/dp/0670496626
[books]|00:20 jenrexrode says, "I got that at a sidewalk sale at Southwood Mall, when it was still a mall"
[books]|00:21 borowski says, "Neat."
[books]|00:22 borowski | If you like plastics and history, drama and chemistry, this book is for you!
[books]|00:22 jenrexrode says, "heh heh"
[UK]|00:22 boucher asks, "Did Lawrence Llewelyn-Bowen do Ground Force?"
[books]|00:23 borowski | http://www.amazon.com/Electric-Forest-Tanith-Lee/dp/0879974826
[books]|00:23 borowski says, "An surprisingly interesting book I found."
[books]|00:25 borowski says, "*a"
[books]|00:25 zarf says, "I remember Mutant 59"
[books]|00:25 jenrexrode says, "cool"
[books]|00:26 borowski asks, "Is it good?"
[books]|00:27 zarf says, "not *good* per se"
[books]|00:27 boucher says, "Heh, I was recently watching Spoony's satirical review of Final Fantasy X-2, and was reminded that found it weird and a little unfortunate that an ultimately very silly and nonsensical and fanservicey videogame actually contained a kinda deep concept with a lot of potential, that of people inhabiting the bodies and potentials and memories of the deceased."
[books]|00:29 jenrexrode says, "I also found planet of the apes and cyborg at that same sale"
[books]|00:29 boucher says, "Which they mostly used to have Charlie's Angels play dressup"
[books]|00:29 jenrexrode asks, "planete des singes?"
[videogames]|00:30 K-Y says, "so, the final showdown against the Mexican rebels is at the US-Mexican border"
[videogames]|00:30 K-Y says, "you've been dropped off on the US side, and need to get through a heavily-fortified border crossing to the Mexican side"
[books]|00:30 boucher says, "For a moment, I thought you were using 'found...at that same sale' as a term for a deep idea cheapened by pandering."
[videogames]|00:30 K-Y says, "so *obviously* a sudden surprise attack would come from behind you, to the north"
[books]|00:32 jenrexrode says, "heh"
[tangent]|00:34 boucher says, "#videogames ISTR reading about some sort of...experience thing...where people pay to learn what it's like to be a Mexican crossing the border to the US."
[tangent]|00:34 boucher says, "In real life."
[tangent]|00:35 jenrexrode says, "oh, so when you find all the destroyed water jugs, you go crazy"
[lounge]|00:35 Rob moseys right on out.
[tangent]|00:37 boucher says, "Heh, no, you go back to your nice cozy home and shower off the Rio Grande sewage and feel a little better about yourself because you had the empathy to experience it firsthand, even though nothing is different."
[kitties]|00:37 jenrexrode says, "wow, the first hairless cat was born the same year as me."
[tangent]|00:38 boucher says, "I don't know...it's some new trend.  I call it an 'experience thing' because I don't know if there's a proper term for it."
[tangent]|00:39 boucher says, "It's not really tourism, nor is it an academic exercise.  It's people putting themselves into situations for the sake of putting themselves into situations."
[kitties]|00:39 borowski says, "Huh, I didn't know they were a new thing."
[tangent]|00:40 boucher says, "LARPing or something."
[tangent]|00:40 boucher says, "I've heard of a few other tours that are of a similar bent."
[comics]|00:40 GDorn | http://imgur.com/a/CSoAv
[tangent]|00:40 borowski says, "I'm going to defeat the border guard with my LIGHTNING BOLT!"
[tangent]|00:40 boucher says, "Heh."
[tangent]|00:40 K-Y says, "see also museums"
[comics]|00:41 GDorn says, "(somebody cosplaying Deadpool with a pretty good sense of the character.  and physical comedy.)"
[comics]|00:42 K-Y says, "preferably, needs detachable hands"
[comics]|00:42 K-Y says, "and head"
[tangent]|00:42 boucher says, "Not so much like going to a museum.  More like being in a war reenaction society."
[tangent]|00:42 inky says, "maybe he means space-museums in the space-future"
[comics]|00:42 borowski says, "There's Waldo!"
[tangent]|00:42 inky says, "like the holodeck"
[tangent]|00:43 K-Y says, "I mean, I've been to a museum where they had a box that you go in, and it's pitch black while the walls close in on you"
[tangent]|00:43 boucher says, "Be Vincent Van Gogh for a day?  Do some painting then go mad and slice your ear."
[tangent]|00:43 K-Y says, "I don't remember what the point was anymore"
[tangent]|00:43 boucher says, "Oh, a postmodern museum where you get tortured for fun.  Then sure."
[tangent]|00:44 boucher says, "Like that one Gunther works at, where they had all sorts of experiments, including that game of pong that gave you 40 lashes whenever you miss the ball."
[comics]|00:45 borowski says, "I want to do an art exhibit that simulates you having to wait in line to see an art exhibit."
[comics]|00:45 borowski says, "ILAC"
[tangent]|00:45 borowski says, "I want to do an art exhibit that simulates you having to wait in line to see an art exhibit."
[tangent]|00:45 boucher says, "Which...well...only the Germans.  That's all I can say."
[quotations]|00:45 K-Y | Possible trigger warning: torture against robots
[kitties]|00:46 jenrexrode | The idea of tourists? aping illegal immigrants can seem crass, like Marie Antoinette playing peasant on the grounds of Versailles.
[kitties]|00:50 jenrexrode says, "ilac"
[tangent]|00:52 Jota asks (of boucher), "Gunther worked at a German museum?"
[kitties]|00:52 Jota says, "On the actual topic of the channel:"
[kitties]|00:53 Jota says, "It can be difficult to tell the difference between a cat who is losing its hearing and one who *just doesn't care*."
[tangent]|00:54 boucher says, "No, but they contributed that exhibit"
[tangent]|00:54 boucher says, "But I find there to be a lot of strange sadomasochism in German art."
[tangent]|00:54 boucher says, "Or just in being German"
[tangent-tangent]|00:54 borowski says, "Apparently my idea has sort of been done before."
[tangent-tangent]|00:54 borowski | Pippin Barr has made a subversively boring game called The Artist is Present. It simulates the experience of waiting in line to see contemporary artist Marina Abramovi?, who held an exhibit at the Museum of Modern Art in New York in 2010.
[comics]|01:01 Jota asks, "Is there a recommended tool for viewing CBR files in Windows?"
[comics]|01:02 nothings says, "i just unrar and use a non-cbr/cbz viewer, for whatever that's worth"
[comics]|01:02 inky says, "well, this guy likes this one: http://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/comicrack-best-comic-book-reader/ "
[woot.com]|01:09 DorianX says, " http://shirt.woot.com/offers/well-done "
[woot.com]|01:09 DorianX says, "IDQGI"
[woot.com]|01:10 DorianX says, "I think I get it, but two of the quadrants on the shield evade me"
[woot.com]|01:11 inky says, "well, the upper-left is obviously where's waldo with a hand grenade"
[lounge]|01:11 * borowski has disconnected.
[lounge]|01:11 * borowski has connected.
[lounge]|01:11 Grocible goes home.
[lounge]|01:11 * Grocible has disconnected.
[lounge]|01:12 Petrosilius arrives from the east.
[compression]|01:15 * Petrosilius has joined the channel.
[kickstarter]|01:17 * Petrosilius has joined the channel.
[ebooks]|01:19 * Petrosilius has joined the channel.
[TreatyOfBabel]|01:22 * Petrosilius has joined the channel.
[twitter]|01:23 * Petrosilius has joined the channel.
[brasslantern]|01:24 * Petrosilius has joined the channel.
[facebook]|01:24 * Petrosilius has joined the channel.
[woot.com]|01:26 GDorn says, "it's all stuff Joss Whedon has worked on"
[lounge]|01:27 Emily goes home.
[lounge]|01:27 * Emily has disconnected.
[woot.com]|01:31 nothings says, "there are links to the forum explaining the mysterious things"
[woot.com]|01:31 nothings says, "I'm not sure WHY you'd want to call attention to Aliens, which I don't think anyone represents as quality Joss work"
[woot.com]|01:32 nothings says, "and I'm not clear why you represent the Avengers through Captain America, but whatevs"
[Internet]|01:32 * Petrosilius has joined the channel.
[woot.com]|01:33 nothings says, "(or why the writeup focuses on his writing strong women characters, and then the things on the shirt, only 1 of 7 is associated with a woman character)"
[woot.com]|01:34 nothings | Noxy here, and, I know he didn't have the HUGEST involvement in Titan AE, but it was one of my favouritest movies ever and I had to include it. Its his work, it counts!
[woot.com]|01:34 nothings says, "This is why we can't crowdsource nice things"
[woot.com]|01:36 inky says, "ha ha"
[lounge]|01:40 Jota turns into a slimy toad!
[personals]|01:44 BrenBarn | I moved away from home as a teenager to go to a special high school for special smart kids. It was basically a minimum security prison with tests, but the point is that I had a roommate. My roommate's name was Fat Tony because he was fat and his name was also Tony. He was so fat, and stinky, and lazy that passersby sometimes literally vomited from the aura around our dorm room door. The point of this story is that I still put up with Fat Tony and I would still rebuild his heart out of tinsel and nachos or whatever because I want to fix people to let them rock hard, and even Fat Tony deserves to rock hard.
[personals]|01:44 inky says, "hmm"
[personals]|01:45 Ellison says, "weird"
[personals]|01:45 nothings asks, "so if you move in with this person, Fat Tony will be there too?"
[personals]|01:46 BrenBarn says, "she puts up with him, she doesn't put him up"
[personals]|01:46 nothings says, "Is it actually a she? I was assuming it was a he, since a girl having a male roommate in high school seems unlikely"
[personals]|01:47 BrenBarn says, "the user writing it is a she, yeah"
[personals]|01:47 BrenBarn says, "it does seem strange"
[personals]|01:47 nothings says, "glad I hedged it then"
[personals]|01:47 Ellison says, "everybody deserves to rock her implausible stories"
[personals]|01:50 nothings says, "maybe i suspected a male writer would have been more cautious about putting together the phrase "rock hard" while talking about a fat male roommate"
[jendoodle]|01:53 jenrexrode says, "oops, my wife-on poly is dried up - so one purchase for this project."
[personals]|01:53 Ellison says, "maybe she populates her memories with Simpsons characters"
[jendoodle]|01:54 inky says, "plus you need a wife"
[jendoodle]|01:55 jenrexrode exclaims, "i know!"
[DustWorld]|01:56 DavidW says, "I should stop packing for the night. I hardly know where to put newly-filled boxes."
[jendoodle]|01:57 Johnny says, "Take my wife, pl oh forget it."
[lounge]|01:57 zarf walks off through the wall; pale green light flares briefly around him.
[personals]|01:57 BrenBarn | I just moved to LA... to try to get a job in the "biz"... and to like make friends and wuteveR.
[lounge]|02:03 Rob comes right on in.
Recapped 1000 of 2906 lines from recent channels.
Current time: Sunday, 22 Jul 2012, 02:03:23 AM EDT
ghira says, "robble"
Rob says, "zrp"
[robmumble] Rob says, ">bwoeeop<  *level up*"
[robmumble] Rob says, "on playing electric guitar"
[robmumble] inky says, "oho"
[robmumble] Rob says, "I randomly bought a used one at a store next door to a movie theater about two weeks ago"
[robmumble] Rob says, "I put on old records and play along and try to keep up"
[robmumble] Rob says, "I felt myself level up today to level 2"
[robmumble] inky says, "hunh"
[robmumble] Rob says, "I can sort of articulate what I did"
[robmumble] Rob says, "one, I gave myself permission to throw my head around and make goofy faces if I had to"
[robmumble] Rob says, "two, I gave myself permission to hurt my fingertips and bend the strings out of shape"
[robmumble] Rob says, "three, I stopped looking at what my left hand was doing on the fretboard and just tried to play with my ears, hearing what I was playing as I was playing what I was imagining trying to hear (this is the tricky one)"
[robmumble] Rob says, "what it feels like is that I stopped trying to worry about controlling my left hand with my left brain, but let my right brain control my left hand"
[robmumble] Rob says, "and play by intuition rather than by rote or visual understanding"
[robmumble] Rob says, "and suddenly, pow, music"
[robmumble] Rob says, "getting X% of the notes right and wrong, kind of like rock band, but getting more accurate the more I practice"
[robmumble] Ellison says, "rob band"
[robmumble] Rob says, "so it was like 'hey, 50% correct on 10/10 songs, level 2' or something"
[robmumble] Rob says, "there's another component"
[robmumble] inky says, "excellent"
[robmumble] inky says, "but to get to level 3, you will need to make even goofier facs"
[robmumble] inky says, "er, faces"
[robmumble] Rob says, "where I hurt my left hand around the beginning of may, and it's hurt ever since"
[robmumble] nothings says, "uh oh"
[robmumble] Rob says, "it's been slowly improving but I've gotten sick of it"
[robmumble] Rob says, "but actually playing guitar like this is stretching it out in some way that is apparently helpful, because *after* a practice session it feels better, almost normal, for a while"
[robmumble] nothings asks, "how often do you play?"
[robmumble] Rob says, "like it's physical therapy to get the tendons stretched out and aligned"
[robmumble] Rob says, "well it's been scattershot but is getting closer to being daily, for about 45 minutes"
[robmumble] nothings says, "ok, this is totally a single anecdote and no reason to generalize from me to you, but:"
[robmumble] nothings says, "after playing for decades, there's this one really really difficult thing I've been working on learning, and I was practicing it nearly daily for two years"
[robmumble] Rob says, "did you repetitively stress yourself"
[robmumble] nothings says, "and then my left hand started to hurt when I would play, so I tried to back off and play less, and it wasn't really helping"
[robmumble] Rob says, "mrm"
[robmumble] nothings says, "I had to stop for six months to get it to totally cease"
[robmumble] nothings says, "and since then I've stuck to no-more-than-every-other-day and it's been fine"
[robmumble] Rob says, "the thing I have going that may help me in this regard is that I can't play the same notes twice in a row if I wanted to"
[robmumble] Rob says, "everything is different every time because I'm just making it up"
[robmumble] nothings says, "yeah, this is totally repetitive motion from repracticing a part, so maybe totally irrelevant"
[robmumble] nothings says, "er, repeatedly practicing"
[robmumble] Rob says, "eh, still good as a warning"
[robmumble] Rob says, "I always have laziness to fall back on"
[robmumble] nothings says, "heh"
[robmumble] nothings says, "also, i should practice"
[robmumble] Rob says, "I feel like level 10 is minimum professional guitar playing standard, and the scale goes up logarithmically to 20, and I'd be happy getting to level 4"
[robmumble] Rob says, "today I was playing along with With the Beatles"
[robmumble] Rob says, "so trying to solo over that and play something chuck berry like and the chords are relatively simple"
[robmumble] Rob says, "I'm rubbish at playing rhythm guitar though because I can guess at notes if I faff around but I can't guess at chords very well"
[drawing] jenrexrode | http://gajitz.com/see-n-scan-chameleon-pen-lets-you-copy-natures-colors/
[robmumble] Rob says, "though I made a couple of keen discoveries that sounded like I was guessing close to the mark once or twice"
[robmumble] Rob says, "'hm, should work on that next week' type stuff"
[robmumble] nothings says, "the way i first would learn chords was by trying to discover the bass note, and then assume it was a major or minor chord over that"
[robmumble] nothings says, "er, with that as the root"
[robmumble] nothings says, "this works 98% of the time in rock music"
[drawing] Rob says, "I was originally going to scoff for some reason but I think something like this could actually be helpful to me"
[robmumble] nothings says, "and the bass note is pretty easy to isolate"
[drawing] Rob says, "(I have kind of a color blindness issue that I have to workaround)"
[drawing] jenrexrode says, "yeah, but it's not going to really help you draw that apple"
[drawing] jenrexrode says, "after years of doctoring photographs, I know that an apple isn't just one color..."
[robmumble] Rob says, "yeah I actually still need to -- hmm. I would even say just rote rudimentary learning of all the barre chords and common harmonic variations of 7ths and 6ths and augments and stuff"
[robmumble] Rob says, "so my fingers have somewhere to guess at going"
[robmumble] nothings says, "you don't really have to get 6ths and 7ths right, anyway"
[robmumble] Rob says, "right now I can do that with one note, but... hmm, it's like I have it in 2D but not in 3D"
[robmumble] nothings says, "it'll sound like the same song without the added notes, most of the time. just not as flavorful"
[robmumble] Rob says, "yeah"
[robmumble] nothings says, "and augmented and diminished are reasonably rare"
[drawing] K-Y says, "yeah, you're going to run out of that ink"
[drawing] K-Y says, "and you'd have to *use* that ink in the first place"
[robmumble] Rob says, "years ago I told dfan I figured out you can kind of squash almost everything down to the basic chords and that's how I play things on the piano, and he naturally cringed"
[drawing] Rob says, "drawing the apple isn't a problem. coloring the apple is tricky for me"
[drawing] jenrexrode says, "well that's what I meant"
[robmumble] nothings says, "i wonder if his perfect pitch makes him more sensitive to 'wrong' voicings and such"
[drawing] Rob says, "the main trick I've relied on is limiting myself to a small weird palette, so it looks intentional that it's all shades of two or three colors"
[robmumble] nothings says, "(where the chord isn't even the wrong chord, just different position)"
[robmumble] Rob says, "I'm more likely to invent a crazy new awesome chord than dfan is"
[robmumble] jenrexrode says, "oh I'd never invent a chord"
[robmumble] Rob says, "I'm also less likely to remember what the hell I played to do it again"
[robmumble] Rob says, "unless I trust my fingers to find it again"
[drawing] K-Y says, "I'm going to go with 'study graphic arts and see what palettes look cool'"
[robmumble] jenrexrode | I do whatever Mel says to do https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1525414735344&set=a.1053422175825.2008401.1233927229&type=3
[robmumble] jenrexrode says, "75 cents, hee hee"
[drawing] Rob says, "there's often this point when I'm working where I realize that what I have earnestly worked at being awesome colors up till now are going to look bizarre and alien to everyone but me"
[drawing] Rob says, "and then I desaturate it and it tends to look a lot better, like I've been coloring with tones and not with colors the whole time"
[drawing] Rob says, "then maybe I tint the whole thing one base color and try again to layer on other colors, or complementaries, or whatever"
<mwmiller> mwmiller has connected to ifMUD.
[drawing] Rob says, "then it might get out of whack all over again"
[gender] Johnny says, "I'm getting pretty tired of the "why don't feminists talk about [insert African/Asian] country?""
[drawing] Rob says, "takes a lot more time than if I used colors that didn't look alien in the first place, but I seem not to be able to make this judgment very aptly"
[drawing] K-Y says, "I just saw this http://parkablogs.com/node/8592 "
[drawing] K-Y says, "the colors are incredible, as per usual"
[gender] Johnny says, "Er, tuck the country into the squares, please."
[drawing] Rob says, "I'm waiting for someone to say 'wait, these alien color choices are brilliant! zut alors!'"
[gender] Rob says, "uh what"
[gender] Rob says, "where is this such thing being said"
[gender] Johnny says, "A lot of people say, "Why are you talking about this, when REAL SHIT is happening in Saudi Arabia?""
[drawing] K-Y says, "right now I don't even really see colors accurately enough to know how to get a result I want even if I can visualize it"
[drawing] Rob says (to KY), "mm ahh"
[gender] Johnny says, "Sort of "All of your problems are first world problems, shut up.""
<Felix> Felix has connected to ifMUD.
Felix enters, enthusiastically enraptured by the ensuing entropy. Whatever that means.
[drawing] Rob says, "I stare and stare at the background art in my favorite anime, and recognize that each one is a painting where the colors and hues chosen make it work and emulate all these different surfaces andlighting conditions"
[drawing] Rob says, "and I wish I could do that. or I think, 'I think I get how they're doing this. I should be able to do this?' and then I set out to do something and it turns out all funky"
[drawing] K-Y says, "it's like Japan is a country where people have nothing to do other than stare at the sky all the time"
[drawing] Rob says, "sometimes I think 'ok well it's a Rob Wheeler artwork, maybe that's what I do'"
[drawing] K-Y says, "to be able to capture all the subtleties of it"
[drawing] Rob says, "the skies in ghibli films are wonderful"
[drawing] Rob says, "I still don't feel like I do clouds very well"
[drawing] Rob says, "although I did a DrawSomething for jen and one for Jota where due to the limited palette I thought I got some approximation of clouds that was what I wanted to do"
[gender] Johnny says, "More broadly, I don't like the "Where's your art then?""
Ellison says, "hey Felix"
[drawing] Rob says, "I don't feel like I do trees well yet either and I love trees and look at them all the time, then my brain fuzzes out when I try to render one"
[drawing] K-Y says, "here's another one http://parkablogs.com/node/1229 "
Felix exclaims, "Hello!"
Recapping 7 of 7 lines from misc/gender:
[gender]/001 Johnny says, "I'm getting pretty tired of the "why don't feminists talk about [insert African/Asian] country?""
[gender]/002 Johnny says, "Er, tuck the country into the squares, please."
[gender]/003 Rob says, "uh what"
[gender]/004 Rob says, "where is this such thing being said"
[gender]/005 Johnny says, "A lot of people say, "Why are you talking about this, when REAL SHIT is happening in Saudi Arabia?""
[gender]/006 Johnny says, "Sort of "All of your problems are first world problems, shut up.""
[gender]/007 Johnny says, "More broadly, I don't like the "Where's your art then?""
Recapped 7 of 7 lines from misc/gender.
[gender] Johnny says, ""Or "Where's your solution to this problem?""
[gender] Rob says, "oh ok"
[gender] Rob says, "yeah that's bullshit"
[drawing] jenrexrode says, "I don't really like miyazaki character drawings,  i don't know why"
[drawing] Rob says, "you don't? aw"
<Hunter> Hunter has connected to ifMUD.
[drawing] Rob says, "I love spirited away, and recently from a lot of cable repeats I've grown fond of Howl's Moving Castle and Ponyo"
[drawing] jenrexrode says, "it didn't bother me in the beginning, but it's like 'oh no, not again' after a while"
Hunter arrives from the east.
Hunter says, "Hi all."
Felix says, "Hi."
[drawing] jenrexrode says, "i"
[drawing] Rob says, "well he does have a signature character style"
[drawing] Rob says, "big mouths of course"
Johnny says, "Hi Felix and Hunter"
Petrosilius says, "Hiya."
[drawing] Rob says, "but a lot of naturalistic subtleties too, which I am fond of"
[drawing] jenrexrode says, "i'm not sure if spirited away looks as much like that, but then there weren't a lot of humans"
[drawing] Rob says, "and marvel that someone drew and animated"
[drawing] Rob says, "I'm not as familiar with his eariler work"
[drawing] Rob says, "I haven't really seen totoro"
Hunter says, "It's 23:30 my time, I'm not tired, I'm actually bored, and just _dying_ to get the word out about this hot new thing I'm involved in."
Rob says, "it's 1:33 hereabouts"
Rob says, "ok what is the hot new thing you are involved in"
jenrexrode says, "hi"
Rob says, "you are in luck there are five people here you can tell about it"
Hunter says, "Wickless scented candles."
Rob says, "what the heck do you light"
[people-suk] Ellison says, "ha ha, this guy"
Hunter asks, "You've seen butter melt, right?"
[people-suk] Rob says, "I know a guy named Hunter"
Felix asks, "What's so exciting about them?"
[people-suk] Rob says, "I'm pretending it's him and liking him better with this illusion going"
Rob says, "yeah I've seen butter melt"
Rob says, "I've forced it to melt in saucepans and microwaves"
jenrexrode whispers, "oh no, not again"
Johnny says (to Felix), "The scentedness and the wicklessness one supposes."
You whisper "??" to jenrexrode.
DavidW says, "Perhaps they burst into flame when you open the box."
[drawing] K-Y says, "it's very simple, very broad-appeal"
jenrexrode whispers, "he was on here selling this 2 weeks ago"
[drawing] K-Y says, "I do find myself longing for something more stylized"
[people-suk] Rob says, "jenrexrode is faxing me likewise comments"
Hunter says, "All the shapes and sizes of the candle-holders, and the variety of scents. And the memories evoked by the scents."
Ellison asks, "I forget, did we establish last time if any of the candles have a melted butter scent?"
(From Johnny) Rob says, "Muahahahaha!"
[people-suk] Rob says, "I'm seeing this as possibly meaning she could be on this channel"
Hunter says, "I checked. Alas, no melted butter scent."
Hunter says, "I do have baked apple pie, though."
DavidW says, "My roommate burns ghee, which is clarified butter."
Rob says, "yeah so are you putting the wickless candle on the stove or what"
Rob says, "you could make a butter scented candle"
Rob . o O ( why aren't there butter scented candles )
Johnny says, "A heating pad"
Rob . o O ( instead of vanilla and lavender and fresh coconut b.s. )
BrenBarn says, "I bet there are butter scented candles"
Rob asks (of DW), "your new roommate burns ghee?"
BrenBarn says, "butter as a scent is kind of weird"
DavidW says, "no, my current one."
Rob says (to BB), "I'd probably go for a butter scented candle, but I haven't seen one"
Rob says, "I haven't been to specialty candle stores, though"
Hunter says, "I just sell the candles. And stuffed animals. And those things you hang on your vehicle's rear-view mirror. And room sprays."
Rob asks, "your new roommate is your current roommate, I would have thought?"
DavidW says, "no. I haven't actually moved yet."
Rob says, "well tell me how you light and melt these candles"
Rob says (to DW), "Ohhh."
Rob says, "well thank god you're moving away from the guy who burns ghee"
[DustWorld] Rob says, "you're move-*ing* but not yet *moved*"
[DustWorld] DavidW says, "right"
[DustWorld] Rob asks, "first of august?"
Ellison asks (of Hunter), "and have the children caught on to your mother's cruel pie candle jokes?"
Hunter says, "You don't exactly light them. It's scented wax, and you warm it in either a small plug-in warmer, or one of the corded larger warmers."
[DustWorld] Rob says, "this explains your dirty fingernails"
Hunter says, "Oh, not yet."
[DustWorld] Rob says, "you know what's good for that? an old toothbrush"
[DustWorld] DavidW says, "Exact date to be determined but near then."
Hunter says, "Grandma's in on it, though. Drives my cousins crazy."
[art] * jenrexrode has joined the channel.
Rob asks, "who owns a plug-in corded candle warmer?"
Rob says, "or is that the racket, you give away the candles and sell the burners for huge mark-ups"
Rob says, "like disposable razor heads"
[DustWorld] DavidW says, "Long showers are also good for dirty fingernails. I suppose I'll have one tomorrow. Well, after I wake up, I mean."
Hunter says, "It's not a corded plug-in. They're two separate things."
Johnny says (to Rob), "The tune for Who Wears Short Shorts popped into my head at that."
Hunter says, "Hold on. I'll get some pics."
Johnny says, "We own a plug-in corded candle warmer"
Rob says, "why don't you just sell candles with wicks? then you don't need a burner, you need a match or a bbq lighter"
Rob says (to Johnny), "you do not"
jenrexrode says, "no open flame"
Rob asks (of Johnny), "that was Nair?"
Johnny says, "My sister does."
Hugo goes home.
Hugo has disconnected.
Rob says, "wtf. ok color me more informed"
Rob says, "about how wack the world is, that people buy candle warmers"
[art] jenrexrode says, "so I saw this timelapse video of this lady building this elaborate origami out of smaller pieces."
[art] Rob says, "what did she make"
DavidW says, "Nair is indeed the one with the 'who wears short shorts' jingle."
[art] Rob says, "origami is getting seriously hardcore I've learned"
[art] jenrexrode says, "it was a Chinese wedding decoration, I think"
Rob says, "five points for whoever finds that ad on youtube"
[art] jenrexrode says, ";so I decided I could do that, and I found the pattern"
Johnny | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYKlYA77ZI4&feature=related
zaphod emerges.
[art] Rob says, "there's a guy who works at mag cafe who does origami"
Hunter -> https://imagelive.scentsy.com/CMSImages/Products/MP-SCS.jpg
Felix exclaims, "Cool!"
Hunter says, "Three bars, a large warmer, and a plugin."
[art] jenrexrode says, "then I read, and they recommended card stock as the best, copier paper as the 2nd best, and construction paper as the 3rd best"
Rob says, "a loaf of bread, a jug of wine, and thou"
[art] Rob asks, "what about origami paper ??"
[art] jenrexrode says, "so I fold about 20 of these thing do-dads out of cut up index cards"
[art] Rob says, "card stock is heavy duty, in at least two ways. probably you have to work up to being good at using that"
[art] jenrexrode says, "stay up all night"
[art] Rob says, "because it takes a lot of strength to make serious crisp folds in card stock"
[art] Rob says, "how'd you do"
[art] jenrexrode says, "then I put it together, and they all slip apart"
[art] Rob says, "index cards are small"
Johnny says, "Hey zaphod"
[art] Rob says, "standard origami paper is 8x8""
Hunter considers posting a link to his web-store, and thus unleashing Scentsy in all its amazing scented glory. :D
[art] Rob says, "you should try using printer paper cut into a square and start from that"
[art] jenrexrode says, "the hunk you work with is 3 cm x 4.5 cm, but 1.5 x 4.5 if you use card stock, and you skip the first fold"
[art] Rob says, "if you fold a diagonal you can see how to cut it off into a square"
Ellison says, "go ahead"
[art] Rob says, "I was into paper folding, mostly paper airplanes, when I was like 13 or 14"
Ellison says, "hey zaphod"
zaphod says, "Hello!"
[poweruser] Rob says, "username zaphod is so 25 years ago"
Hunter links directly to the "Combine & Save" section -> https://hrjw89.scentsy.us/Scentsy/Buy/Collection/464
Johnny does like justice, but that's taking it a bit far.
</Johnny> Mi acetos bananon
DavidW says, "I need to sleep or I'll be in poor shape for ClubFloyd. Laters, all."
DavidW goes home.
DavidW has disconnected.
[art] jenrexrode says, "I'm gonna try it with construction paper, because it will have more friction and not slip apart."
<Johnny> Thanks four showing this 2 us mandmscommercials!
Ellison asks, "is there a regretscentsy.com, too?"
Johnny insisted that the mobile hot-dog-on-a-bun did nothing wrong.
[poweruser] jenrexrode says, "yeah, haw haw"
[art] Rob says, "ok but my recommendation stands"
[art] Rob says, "if you have trouble with construction paper think about it"
[art] Rob says, "printer paper is nice and crisp and behaves itself"
[art] Rob says, "and has some traction"
Hunter doesn't know why there would be. He doesn't regret Scentsy, and has yet to meet anyone who does.
[people-suk] Rob says, "well he's committed"
[art] jenrexrode says, "yeah, that's their second choice.  I was sad tho, because it was very hard to fold that card stock, and then they were so slippery"
[poweruser] Rob says, "ifmud has a lot of secret channels"
[poweruser] Rob says, "like it's high school and there are circles of elitism"
[poweruser] jenrexrode exclaims, "eee!"
[poweruser] Rob says, "there's a channel for snarking about newbies"
[poweruser] jenrexrode says, "aw"
Hunter says, "The only complaint I've heard, so far, is that Scentsy doesn't have a butter scent."
[people-suk] Ellison says, "yeah, it's kind of adorable."
Hunter:p
[poweruser] Rob says, "and you started whispering to me about this guy just when that channel lit up with similar comments, so I started asking, 'shouldn't jenrexrode be on here?'"
[poweruser] Rob says, "there's also #peanut-gallery"
Ellison says, "that's a good one, though"
[poweruser] jenrexrode says, "heh"
Ellison says, "you need to talk to corporate"
[poweruser] Rob says, "which you can join if you know to join it"
Hunter will talk to his upline.
[poweruser] Rob says, "but like having a private channel with just me is like highly l33t of course"
[poweruser] jenrexrode says, "awesome"
[poweruser] Rob says, "just lettin' you know the social scene"
Hunter says, "I've heard good things about corporate. They don't just send you a generic "Thanks but no thanks" reply. They actually call you, or email you, and speak with you personally."
[poweruser] Rob says, "it's all the same people in different venn diagrams, took me years to be invited"
[poweruser] Rob says, "then it's like blah what's this all about"
[poweruser] jenrexrode says, "I'll just suffer in silence.  I don't really feel left out of anything."
[poweruser] Rob says, "ok good"
Ellison says, "here's another idea. once melted, you can use the candle as a fondue. that idea is free!"
[poweruser] Rob says, "I'm glad you're still here"
[poweruser] jenrexrode says, "you know I haven't seen anyone for 2 weeks while I've been on vacation.  It's like a vacation from people."
Hunter says, "The company behind Scentsy has another brand, Velata, for just that."
[poweruser] Rob says, "it seemed like a good idea in the beginning but sometimes ideas turn out to be flops"
Hunter says, "Except not using the candle."
[poweruser] Rob says (to jenrexrode), "maybe that's what you actually wanted"
[poweruser] jenrexrode says, "I really appreaciate you getting me on ifMUD.  I've met some really nice people"
[poweruser] Rob says, "yeah that was the point"
Hunter says, "The fondue part, yes."
[poweruser] Rob says, "whenever I see you in a good chat with someone I smile a bit"
Ellison says, "crazy. you guys have covered all of the bases... with fondue and scents."
Hunter says, "Any questions about Scentsy? ^_^"
Rob asks, "wait, does that mean Scentsy isn't a little co-op commune, but something owned by a large corporation?"
jenrexrode asks, "is there a bug repellant?"
[poweruser] Rob says, "I didn't tell you right away how flaky I was going to be, but it's been that way for a while"
Hunter says, "A husband and wife bought the company back when it was a little-bitty startup, moved it into a shipping container, and took off running.'"
Ellison says, "the CEO once had a glimmer of an idea. he wanted to make things melt one day!"
[poweruser] Rob says, "but I'm still here flakily"
[poweruser] jenrexrode says, "I'm pretty sure you did"
Hunter says, "And no, jen, no bug repellant. Another good idea, which I'll send upline."
[poweruser] Rob says, "I kind of don't like turning on computers very much is the thing"
[poweruser] Rob says, "I like pen and paper more than whizzing electrons"
<Nitku> The future will be fnurglewitz.
Nitku doesn't even know what glutz is!
jenrexrode says, "citronella candles are popular down here for mosquitoes"
[poweruser] Rob says, "but I like the people so I try my best to show up and be engaged"
Rob says, "urgh"
Johnny says, "Hey Nitku"
Rob says, "after all those (wonderful) rainstorms, the mosquitoes were out in force"
Rob says, "and I like mudding from my outside porch these days"
Ellison says, "are any of the scented candles molded as action figures? I'd probably pick some up if you could make a candle to look like the melts-by-toxic-waste guy from RoboCop."
Rob says, "and last wednesday I was out here and got bitten to smithereeeens"
Rob says, "but then it started drying out and they've been a lot less around"
jenrexrode exclaims, "yeah, I sprayed down with repellant, andthen I was working on my hands and knees, and they started going for my soles!"
Ellison says, "hey Nitku"
Rob says, "I've also heard owls and bats and other things that eat mosquitoes making noises around here lately so I'm hoping they had a feast on what was feasting on me"
Rob says, "egad, the soles"
Rob says, "they wouldn't go for the soles if you hadn't barred them from the other bits"
jenrexrode exclaims, "melt-man from Action League Now!"
#private/people-suk (private): all the nudity, all the time
Synonyms: private/people-sux
Created: 22-Jan-01 10:38:18	Last message: 22-Jul-12 02:48:01
Users: Bishop Ellison +inky Jacqueline Rob
Also: (Ampersand) (andyf) (BoingBall) (devil) (Duchess) (Emily) (+Gunther) (Iain) (josh_g) (+Jota) (jwalrus) (+katre) (Kiz) (lno) (maga) (ParserGirl) (Sargent) (Storme) (Tablesaw) (veek) (yournamehere)
There are no new messages on #private/people-suk.
Nitku says, "hi"
Rob says, "heya nitku"
Rob says, "how's things"
Nitku says, "good, good"
Rob says, "good"
Ellison says, "or 'oops, I stepped in lava' guy from that volcano movie"
Rob says, "Joe Versus, he said comically"
[Internet] jenrexrode says, "when I went to K-Y"
[Internet] jenrexrode says, "oops"
[ifdb] Nitku says, "WOOOO"
[Internet] Rob says, "you went to K-Y? but he's in canada"
[Internet] jenrexrode says, "K-Y's cool link"
[ifdb] Rob asks (of Nitku), "what are some good ideas to do with the ifdb database that haven't been done that you want to do?"
[Internet] jenrexrode says, "in the margin was an ad for a product that Jacq had me look at earlier tonight"
[ifdb] Rob says, "I asked this in @recap but nobody said much, so now I'm asking you"
[Internet] Rob asks, "what was it?"
[Internet] Rob says, "also what channel did you mean"
[ifdb] Nitku says, "I want a tool you can use to generate statistics"
[Internet] jenrexrode says, "so I will be haunted by over-the-door storage"
[ifdb] Rob asks, "what kind of statistics?"
[Internet] jenrexrode says, "this channel, just didn't mean to hit <enter>"
[Internet] Rob asks, "what's over-the-door storage?"
[begood] Johnny says, "I've been watching Indie Game: The Movie in 10 and 20 minute chunks."
[Internet] jenrexrode says, "some thing that has coat hooks, and it is designed to hang from the top of a door"
[Internet] Rob asks, "popular games? popularly-reviewed games? games-reviewed-most-but-not-popular?"
[begood] Johnny asks, "How is anyone good at Super Meat Boy?"
[begood] Rob says, "horrible"
[begood] Rob says, "struggled to get to level 3"
[begood] Rob says, "then quit"
[begood] Ellison says, "I dunno. I don't know how anyone has patience for it."
[begood] Rob says (to Ellison), "oh thank god, it's not just me"
[ifdb] Nitku says, "like this: http://emshort.wordpress.com/2011/01/03/more-ifdb-data/ "
[Internet] jenrexrode says, "hm, he should  visit olethros"
[ifdb] Rob asks, "emily, eh?"
[Internet] jenrexrode says, "unelss he's in vancouver or something"
[Internet] Rob says, "I wanna visit olethros"
[begood] Ellison says, "I didn't have enough patience for VVVVVVVVV, either, despite it having a pretty nice soundtrack."
[Internet] Rob says, "olethros has invited me to visit"
[Internet] Rob says, "but I cannot afford to visit olethros    :("
[Internet] jenrexrode asks, "in toronoto?"
[Internet] jenrexrode says, "-o"
[Internet] Rob asks, "he's in toronto?"
[Internet] jenrexrode says, "@recap canada"
[Internet] Rob says, "also, olethros moves so often I can't get a bead on him"
Recapping 119 of 123 lines from misc/places/Canada:
[Canada]/001 olethros says, "I guess we need to find a place to eat"
[Canada]/002 olethros says, "I imagine lake/seafood will be the best option"
[Canada]/003 DavidW says, "If you're at either ocean coast, sure. By the Great Lakes, I think they're shipping it in like anywhere else."
[Canada]/004 olethros asks, "salmon too?"
[Canada]/005 DavidW says, "Salmon is a west coast thing, I believe."
[Canada]/006 olethros says, "tripadvisor recomends this japanese place called 'kastura' for some rason"
[Canada]/007 olethros asks, "is there any native american cuisinE?"
[Canada]/008 DavidW says, "Sure, but I've never seen it."
[Canada]/009 DavidW says, "Like, I've heard of pemmican, but my limited understanding of it that it's fairly nasty travel rations that didn't need refrigeration and unsuitable for serving at a restaurant."
[Canada]/010 DavidW says, "Likewise, there's not much of a market for birch bark tea."
[Canada]/011 olethros says, "hmm"
[Canada]/012 olethros says, "yeah, north american native cuisine sucks"
[Canada]/013 DavidW says, "And if you want venison, you'll want a hunting license or a specialty meat shop."
[Canada]/014 olethros says, "acorb bread, mutton stew, succotash and wajpe look interesting"
[Canada]/015 DavidW asks, "do you mean acorn bread?"
[Canada]/016 olethros says, "acorn yes"
[Canada]/017 olethros says, "sorry :/"
[Canada]/018 DavidW says, "never heard of it, but that's probably tasty."
[Canada]/019 olethros says, "hm it is incredibly noisy given that I am at the fucking 31st floor"
[Canada]/020 olethros asks, "oh, yeah, do you think you can make it over here one of those days?"
[Canada]/021 DavidW asks, "er, over where?"
[Canada]/022 olethros says, "toronto"
[Canada]/023 DavidW asks, "You're in Toronto? When?"
[Canada]/024 olethros says, "now"
[Canada]/025 DavidW says, "eep"
[Canada]/026 DavidW asks, "For how long?"
[Canada]/027 olethros says, "I am leaving on the 27th"
[Canada]/028 DavidW says, "geez. I honestly don't know. I'm in the middle of a move that I want to happen at the end of the month."
[Canada]/029 olethros asks, "oh you are finally getting out of that shared place?"
[Canada]/030 DavidW says, "I'm not sure if I have the time or the money. I might, but I don't know."
[Canada]/031 DavidW says, "yes, going to a different place in Waterloo with two new roommates and a cat."
[Canada]/032 DavidW asks, "When did you arrive in Toronto?"
[Canada]/033 olethros says, "yesterday"
[Canada]/034 olethros says, "(and went to bed immediately)"
[Canada]/035 DavidW says, "oh"
[Canada]/036 DavidW says, "I would like to see you, of course, but I'm gonna have to think about how I can manage it."
[Canada]/037 olethros says, "well, one idea is to do some joint sightseeing (but that'd have to be outside the conference dates)"
[Canada]/038 DavidW says, "well, I lived in Toronto for a while, although I imagine they've done a bit of redecorating in my absence."
[Canada]/039 olethros says, "so I am free in the evenings (apart from 25), and tomorrow the whole day"
[Canada]/040 Adam recaps
[Canada]/041 Adam says, "Hey, I just got back from Toronto not long ago"
[Canada]/042 Adam says, "Traffic was atrocious"
[Canada]/043 olethros says, "I used a plane"
[Canada]/044 DavidW says, "Bus service is wretched on Sundays. The only way I could see you tomorrow is if I left here two hours ago."
[Canada]/045 Adam says, "It took me 53 minutes to drive a mile and a half down Spadina - that's less than half typical walking speed"
[Canada]/046 olethros says, "in the plan I was sitting next to a czech guy who kept saying how awesome canadian public transport is"
[Canada]/047 inky says, "#belated I think of good native american food as being smoked fish"
[Canada]/048 inky says, "but I don't know that there are many native american restaurants"
[Canada]/049 olethros says, "I certainly never saw any"
[Canada]/050 Adam says, "The only Native American food I know of are frybread stands on the Southwestern roadsides"
[Canada]/051 Adam says, "er, s/food/eateries/"
[Canada]/052 olethros says, "seems there are two!"
[Canada]/053 olethros | http://www.lonelyplanet.com/usa/restaurants/native-american
[Canada]/054 olethros says (to davidw), "the bus trip takes almost 3 times the (theoretical) car time"
[Canada]/055 DavidW says, "yeah, that's a fair estimate."
[Canada]/056 DavidW says, "When I went to see Jacqueline when she visited Toronto, I had to get to a bus station in an industrial part of Cambridge not directly accessible by the city buses."
[Canada]/057 olethros says, "huh"
[Canada]/058 DavidW says, "And I don't remember how often the buses run between Cambridge and Toronto, but it sure isn't that often per day."
[Canada]/059 olethros says, "tomorrow it's only 3 buses"
[Canada]/060 olethros says, "(no trains, I guess)"
[Canada]/061 DavidW says, "I think there's train service from Kitchener."
[Canada]/062 DavidW says, "There's something called the GO Train (or GO Bus) that connects to Kitchener, but I don't think it connects to Cambridge yet for some odd reason."
[Canada]/063 olethros says, "gmaps does not so any trains"
[Canada]/064 olethros says, "*shw"
[Canada]/065 olethros says, "hmm"
[Canada]/066 olethros asks, " http://www.gotransit.com/publicroot/en/schedules/pubsched.aspx?table=25&direction=0&day=1&page=1&new= ?"
[Canada]/067 olethros says, "ok no trains at all on weekends"
[Canada]/068 olethros says, "oh fuck this"
[Canada]/069 olethros says, "it doesnt really make sense for you to spend 6 hours on the road just so that we can meet for an hour"
[Canada]/070 DavidW says, "unfortunately, I have to agree."
[Canada]/071 olethros says, "the CN tower is tall"
[Canada]/072 DavidW says, "Yes, it is. It had a height record at some point, if you included the antenna."
[Canada]/073 olethros says, "yeah, and it still is the tallest structure in the western hemisphere according to wikipedia"
[Canada]/074 olethros says, "it is however dwarfed by the collossal Burj Khalifa"
[Canada]/075 olethros says, "(which looks like an artist's insane painting)"
[Canada]/076 olethros says, "went to chinatown, had chinese"
[Canada]/077 olethros says, "across the street there is this 'volos' greek restaurant which has raving reviews from tripadvisor. I am somewhat tempted"
[Canada]/078 Hugo asks, "Where did you go for Chinese?"
[Canada]/079 olethros says (to hugo), "random place in chinatown"
[Canada]/080 Hugo says, "But..they're all random places!"
[Canada]/081 olethros says, "I will use my fortune cookie to choose the next"
[Canada]/082 DavidW says, "I seem to remember there was a group called the Serial Diners in Toronto. Their mission: to eat at every restaurant in the phone book in alphabetical order."
[Canada]/083 olethros says, "also, toronto is the only place where I saw a Police Museum"
[Canada]/084 DavidW asks, "hm, I don't remember one of those. Whereabouts?"
[Canada]/085 olethros says, "somewhere south east of the university"
[Canada]/086 DavidW says, "mm"
[Canada]/087 Hugo says, "Headquarters."
[Canada]/088 Hugo says, "College and Bay."
[Canada]/089 olethros | http://www.torontopolice.on.ca/museum/
[Canada]/090 DavidW says, "neat"
[Canada]/091 DavidW says, "I remember once the Science Centre had an exhibit on auto safety, and another on counterfeit money; perhaps the Centre was borrowing from that museum."
[Canada]/092 olethros says, "probably"
[Canada]/093 olethros says, "also went to the ULTIMATE DINOSAUR exhibition"
[Canada]/094 olethros says, "hmmm maybe I will go to the beaches tomorrow"
[Canada]/095 Hugo says, "Spoken like a real Torontonian."
[Canada]/096 Hugo asks, "Where are you staying?"
[Canada]/097 * jenrexrode has joined the channel.
[Canada]/098 olethros says, "sheraton, downtown"
[Canada]/099 olethros says, "oh, I didn't know you also lived in canada"
[Canada]/100 Hugo says, "I used to live about a block from there."
[Canada]/101 olethros asks, "which city are you now living in?"
[Canada]/102 Hugo says, "Oakville."
[Canada]/103 DavidW says, "Goodness."
[Canada]/104 DavidW says, "I grew up next door to Oakville, in Burlington."
[Canada]/105 olethros says, "hey, that's kinda close"
[Canada]/106 Hugo says, "It's a small golden horseshoe."
[Canada]/107 DavidW says, "(The dividing road is charmlingly named Burloak Drive.)"
[Canada]/108 olethros asks (of hugo), "I don't suppose you would find time for a meetup?"
[Canada]/109 Hugo asks, "How long are you around?"
[Canada]/110 olethros says, "leaving on the 27th"
[Canada]/111 Hugo asks, "In/around Toronto until then?"
[Canada]/112 olethros says, "yup."
[Canada]/113 Hugo says, "Let me see; I wasn't planning to be downtown, but I can always make a trip if I'm able to."
[Canada]/114 olethros says, "ok. Tomorrow and Monday are relatively free - then... I should be at the conference mostly, and I guess I should not miss the dinner on the 25th (nom nom)"
[Canada]/115 Hugo says, "Okay, let me see if there's some reason I can't Monday and I'll let you know."
[Canada]/116 olethros says, "da"
[Canada]/117 jenrexrode says, "and on your way, pick up DW"
[Canada]/118 DavidW says, "Cambridge isn't exactly en route from Oakville to Toronto."
[Canada]/119 jenrexrode says, "it was worth a try"
Recapped 119 of 123 lines from misc/places/Canada.
[Internet] Rob says, "ok"
[ifdb] Nitku says, "In fact I have made a tool like that for other stuff and I might just adapt it"
[Internet] jenrexrode says, "he's on a convention tour til 7/27"
[Internet] Rob says, "aw man"
[Internet] Rob says, "well I can't afford to go to canada either"
[ifdb] Rob says, "hmm still reading"
[Internet] Ellison asks, "oh, that explains why Hugo was like, why would someone come to Toronto?"
[poweruser] jenrexrode says, "me and jeff drove to canada, twice"
[begood] Johnny says, "I got up to the first boss."
[begood] Johnny says, "I just fired up the game to check, and ... it crashed, but I remembered anyway."
[ifdb] Nitku says, "She mentions multiple times that some things just aren't plausible to find out by manual counting, and now it wouldn't be necessary"
[Internet] jenrexrode says, "no findloc for k-y"
inky suffers from an "excess of kittens".
</inky> "I should have paid more attention to my spell and summon that sexy Necromancer instead of a pervert Hobo."  Said Nightmare Moon with regret in her voice.
jenrexrode says, "pooz"
[begood] Ellison says, "I played to the first room I came across where there was some bonus item to get but quit the game when I could never get it"
[begood] Johnny asks, "In VVVVVV?"
[begood] Johnny says, "Those aren't mandatory. You can unlock the extras in the menu, CHEATER."
[begood] Johnny says, "Excuse me, POTENTIAL CHEATER."
[begood] Ellison says, "yeah, I could tell it was optional, but it still pissed me off when it was too hard to get."
boucher goes home.
boucher has disconnected.
[politics] jenrexrode says, "is this bumpersticker fake? https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=348355208577834&set=a.125709177509106.32166.124679360945421&type=1&ref=nf "
[politics] mwmiller says, "I'm sure it's a real bumper sticker, yes."
[politics] jenrexrode says, "huh.  I hadn't even imagined it."
jenrexrode says, "argh I've got to try harder to go to bed earlier tonight and tomorrow"
jenrexrode says, "but not going anywhere just yet"
Felix says, "I know the feeling."
jenrexrode says, "back to work on Monday morning, and seen the sunrise once or twice before bed recently."
boucher enters the lounge.
Alex says (to boucher), "Awwwk! Word on the street is that you are boucher, and I claim my five cork nuts!"
jenrexrode says, "hey"
Hunter goes home.
</Hunter> Hunter has disconnected from ifMUD.
boucher says, "Hiya"
Felix says, "Hello."
<two-star> yea why try her raw wet hat
two-star sought a woman and found a monkey. Well, it happens.
Johnny says, "Hi boucher"
jenrexrode says, "hi"
two-star says, "Hi."
Johnny says, "Hi two-star"
[oregon] two-star says, "Meh. I'm in a boil-water zone."
[oregon] two-star says, "#thirdworldproblems"
[oregon] Rob says, "wha happen"
Rob says, "boucher, two-star"
[oregon] Rob says, "well you don't have to walk for 2 miles and hoist it by bucket out of a well"
[oregon] two-star says, "They found E Coli in the water."
[oregon] boucher says, "Unknown.  Regular water sampling turned up bacterial levels in water reservoirs, apparently."
[oregon] Rob says, "blecch"
[gripe] Ellison says, "I don't like how the seemingly default behavior for Inform games these days is to do the turn counter as just a number up in the corner (no 'TURNS: #' or 'MOVES: #'). I mean, sure these are scoreless games so there's no need to show a score, but is it really necessary, then, to show the turns, either? it'd be better if the whole area was just blank"
[oregon] Rob says, "well, at least you were informed this was the case, instead of getting sick"
[oregon] boucher says, "This sometimes happens when there are storm drain overflows, but...it's been mostly dry lately, I thought."
[gripe] Rob says, "ha ha"
[gripe] Rob says, "#firstIFworldproblems"
[gripe] Ellison says, "heh"
[gripe] Rob says, "there's a slippery way in which turns made correlates to progress through the game, in aggregate"
[oregon] two-star says, "I came home to an informative voice mail about it, so they got the notification right."
[oregon] Rob says, "dry conditions could foster bacteria growth in the water supply"
Rob not enough to dilute it sufficiently or something
[gripe] Ellison says, "I'd also be ok with doing 'TURNS: #' or such, but I think the number hanging up there by itself is quite ugly"
[oregon] Rob says, "not wet enough to dilute it sufficiently or something"
[gripe] Rob says, "fair enough"
[gripe] Rob says, "in a scoreless game you should probably drop the turncount meter"
[gripe] Rob says, "you have made 1440 moves out of a predicted 2500 turns"
[gripe] Ellison says, "it's funny because I sort of took all of these changes in the naughts without blinking, but in the last couple years, I've had a more discerning eye and am like, man, what"
[gripe] Rob says, "you are now a sorcerer's apprentice"
[gripe] Rob says, "changes in the naughts"
[gripe] Rob says, "exchanging glances"
[gripe] Rob says, "da dee dee dah dah"
[gripe] Ellison says, "heh"
[gripe] Rob says, "light a candle on the ol heating pad and mellow out"
[gripe] Ellison says, "took me a while to get that one"
[gripe] Rob says, "but you got there"
Rob says, "ok, I'm yawning"
Ellison says, "later"
Rob says, "probably a signal for my next move"
Rob says, "which is zzzz"
Rob says, "gnight MUD"
Rob heads right on out.
</Rob> Find release from your cares. have a good time.
Seeya later.