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ifMUD
An interactive real time social network chat bulletin board
quotebook url database with a parrot bot
Copyright 1997-2007 by Loungent Technologies, a wholly owned subsidiary of
rec.[arts|games].int-fiction; All rights reserved.
Release 4 / Serial number 990908 / perlMUD v2.1z
    "The characters were mostly of the cardboard cutout variety.
    I wanted to punch everyone except the one Scottish guy."
         --Jearl
  NOTE: Whenever a fix or enhancement is in place, it will be announced
  on the channel '#mud-updates'.
  OTHER NOTE: There is a mailing list where people can say things like
  "hey, the mud's down, what's up with that?" In fact, since this is
  the only thing the list is used for, you should join it if you are
  interested in this subject. To join, go to
    http://groups.google.com/group/ifmud/
  or talk to Steve.
Robinson Manor
A gracious, welcoming, airy space. Music drifts in from unseen speakers. A picture window on the southern wall provides a pleasant source of light and a sense of openness.
You can see: teleporter, a picture window, comfy sofa, Jeopardy podium, buzzer1, buzzer2, buzzer3, Jota greets Rob, fake_Robb_Sherwin
Visible Exits: west, east
<Rob> There is no other option for the world than to invade America and dismantle the lasers, send them through a time portal, and repurpose them as vibrators for dinosaurs. I?ve invented much of this."
No new channels have been created since your last check.
Adventurer's Lounge
Candles on the wood-panelled walls create a comfortably dark atmosphere. Hand-drawn maps are taped to nearly every surface -- the walls, the ceiling, the trophy case in the corner. Seating is plentiful. A small storage closet is to the north.
You can see: new laundry list, Birthday Calendar, magic laundry list, blank banner, Even Newer World Map, charset sampler, Automeeter, TheMasterTheorem player names, time zones, MUD Client Wish List, battle.net battletags, madlibs, Anything Finder, Sarcasm Detector
Players: Alex, markm, Touchy, Jon, Psmith, vimes, Jearl, small, McMartin, DorianX, Ryan, lpsmith, zaphod, Matthew, Bishop, GDorn, Allen, Dave, Jacqueline, Iain, annabianca, marc, vaporware, jpt, Steve, ghira, maga, Grocible, Lionheart, Khamul, inky, djfletch, K-Y, nothings, Gunther, Whizzard, DavidW, zarf, Marktwo, boucher, BrenBarn, Ellison, jenrexrode, Lucea
Visible Exits: north, west, southwest, southeast, up, east
Rob comes right on in.
Recapping 731 of 3403 lines from recent channels:
[lounge]/15:58 Whizzard goes to hamstring some zombies.
[lounge]|15:58 * Whizzard has disconnected.
[lounge]|15:58 Ellison says, "lazy Saturday"
[gardening]|15:59 olethros says, "flytraps are awesome"
[photo]|15:59 Gunther says, " https://plus.google.com/112876605812284255081/posts/VLorQxzUwNt "
[gardening]|16:00 olethros says, "roguelike. Some roguelikes even have tile interfaces"
[lounge]|16:00 nm, Whitehead and Russell reveal themselves as complete amateurs
[photo]|16:00 olethros says, "I see the photo of a guy who 'Lived in Linz;"
[lounge]|16:00 nm says, "hi"
[photo]|16:01 Gunther says, "it's more about the rainbow"
[photo]|16:01 olethros says, "sunset rainbows are definitely rare"
[photo]|16:02 olethros says, "so, nice!"
[Europe]|16:04 olethros says, "the edifice continues to crumble"
[Europe]|16:09 * annabianca has joined the channel.
[German]|16:11 olethros says, "jezus"
[German]|16:12 olethros says, "I can hardly believe there is a word such as Absteige"
[lounge]|16:12 Emily arrives.
[lounge]|16:13 nm says, "hi Emily"
[German]|16:14 Gunther says, "pff"
[lounge]|16:14 Emily says, "hi"
[German]|16:14 Gunther says, "try Kaschemme"
[lounge]|16:14 Fang is told of the death of Christ, and becomes so angry that the brain bursts from his head, and he dies. The blood from the wound baptises him as a Christian, and his soul goes to heaven.
[German]|16:14 olethros says, "I am sure this book will use this word somewhere"
[Europe]|16:14 ghira asks, "in what way?"
[Europe]|16:19 olethros says, "spain is pleading for life"
[Europe]|16:20 olethros says, "also, Lagarde's understatement of the year:"
[Europe]|16:20 olethros | The global growth outlook will be somewhat less than we anticipated just three months ago.
[German]|16:20 Gunther says, "also you're obviously reading a hip, cool & froody novel, of course it uses lots of slang"
[German]|16:21 olethros says, "well, I dunno if a 1987 novel is hip, cool or froody"
[music]|16:21 Ellison says, "huh, a bunch of oldies foe $3 on Amazon today: http://www.amazon.com/Rock-Roll-Superhits-Ultimate-Compilation/dp/B004CNNRLU/ref=amb_link_363854122_3?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=browse&pf_rd_r=1NMBXXEQAPTBETQNDH9T&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1376027282&pf_rd_i=163856011 "
[music]|16:21 Ellison says, "for"
[German]|16:21 olethros says, "maybe 'radical', or 'wicked'"
[lounge]|16:22 Emily says, "I could have sworn there was a post or email or something concerning Boston next weekend, and dinner thereat"
[lounge]|16:22 Emily says, "but I am not finding it"
[lounge]|16:22 Emily asks, "anyone else going and know whether there is an event and whether I could still sign on for it?"
[German]|16:23 olethros says, "anyway, it is still very funny"
[German]|16:23 olethros says, "(and simultaneously sad)"
[lounge]|16:24 nm asks, "oh, it must be the No Show Conference?"
[lounge]|16:24 Gunther says, "bb #gathering 3"
[lounge]|16:24 Emily says, "yeah"
[lounge]|16:24 nm says, "Flourish and I will be away in Orlando, but yes, that's happening"
[lounge]|16:24 Emily says (to Gunther), "aha!"
[lounge]|16:25 Emily says, "...oh, hm, that doesn't say anything about signups"
[lounge]|16:25 Emily says, "for IF-related dinner hanging out"
[lounge]|16:25 Emily says (to nm), "aw, man"
[lounge]|16:25 Gunther says, "6, 7 or 8 then"
[lounge]|16:25 Gunther says, "7 it is"
[lounge]|16:25 Emily says, "okay, cool, thanks"
[German]|16:25 olethros says, "so at this point the protagonist is wondering if the person he's looking for was dealing drugs and it is writen.."
[German]|16:26 Gunther says, ""hod die hurnsau hasch gschom?""
[lounge]|16:26 Ellison says, "there was something about not having enough people to make a reservation so people just are meeting up"
[German]|16:26 olethros | ... unter dem Verdacht, mit Rauschgift zu handlen..
[German]|16:26 olethros says, "I am not sure I get the last construction"
[German]|16:27 Gunther says, "it"
[German]|16:27 Gunther says, "'s a present participle"
[German]|16:27 Gunther says, "'to deal drugs'"
[German]|16:27 Gunther says, "under suspicion of dealing drugs"
[German]|16:28 olethros asks, "how about, ... mit Rauschfithandlung ?"
[German]|16:28 Gunther says, "nonsensical"
[German]|16:28 Gunther says, "des Rauschgifthandel(n)s"
[German]|16:28 Gunther says, "would work"
[German]|16:28 olethros says, "oh, it's handeln mit etw"
[German]|16:29 olethros says, "ok, that works, I guess, though I'd never say that"
[board-games]|16:30 Gunther |  Cryptozoic Entertainment has announced a non-deck-building, Batman-specific two-player game due out in September 2012 titled Batman: Arkham City Escape
[board-games]|16:30 Gunther | In this game, one player represents Batman, and the other player represents [who gives a crap, player 1 is the goddamn Batman]
[board-games]|16:30 vimes says, "ha ha"
[board-games]|16:31 Gunther | one of forty villains from the rogues gallery that Batman has fought in the past, with each villain having abilities exclusive to that character. The player controlling the Arkham inmates earns victory points by helping the villains escape Arkham, while the Batman player gains points by apprehending his rivals before they make it out of the city, and by saving iconic allies by utilizing special gadgets from his utility belt. The first player to earn ten victory points wins!
[board-games]|16:31 Gunther says, "and ALSO"
[board-games]|16:31 Gunther | Cryptozoic has released some details of The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring Deck-Building Game
[board-games]|16:31 Gunther says, "please go away"
[board-games]|16:32 Gunther says, "(it is the exact same as the DC deckbuilding game)"
[board-games]|16:32 Gunther says, "this is now like all those Monopoly rethemes but with Dominion"
[board-games]|16:35 vimes says, "in which Batman and the X-Men team up to stop Scorch from keeping the thirsty kids from foiling the dastardly plots of Mr. Pickles the janitor"
[board-games]|16:35 Gunther says, "...what"
[board-games]|16:35 K-Y says, "utilizing gadgets, eh http://l7world.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Legends-of-the-Dark-Knight-2-shark-repellant.jpg "
[board-games]|16:35 vimes says, "oh, wait, you said Lord of the Rings"
[board-games]|16:35 vimes says, "in which Batman and TOM BOMBADIL..."
[board-games]|16:36 Gunther says, "...what again (..K-Y)"
[board-games]|16:36 Gunther asks, "propulsion?"
[board-games]|16:37 K-Y says, "yes"
[writing]|16:38 nm says, "whew, proofreading of book (pretty much) done"
[board-games]|16:39 K-Y | "All of the Above" is one of those quintessential stories that demonstrates why Batman can beat Superman, or any other superhuman for that matter. While on monitor duty at the Watchtower satellite, Batman single-handedly defeats Amazo, an android with the superpowers of the entire Justice League.
[writing]|16:40 nm says, "of course I have to key in all the corrections, or rather type them up for the compositor to make"
[writing]|16:40 nm says, "sigh"
[politics]|16:40 McMartin | Thaddeus McCotter, a five-term Michigan Republican.... managed to become the first incumbent in modern history to fail to submit the necessary petition signatures for re-election and thus not qualify for the ballot.
[writing]|16:41 olethros asks, "putting little marks etc?"
[writing]|16:41 nm says, "well, I'll type the changes that are to be made onto a wiki -- the little marks have been made"
[writing]|16:42 olethros says, "( the little marks are useful to see what people have changed downstream, I suppose )"
[writing]|16:43 olethros asks, "and then the guy has to do the corrections, and you check them again?"
[writing]|16:43 nm says, "pretty much"
[writing]|16:44 nm says, "in this case, it's a book by 10 authors that I've organized; one of the authors did the design and is doing the typesetting"
[writing]|16:44 nm says, "so I'm not shipping this list off to someone unknown to me in an elaborate publication system or anything"
[writing]|16:46 olethros says, "the last few times I was involved in something like that it was just a bunch of tex files to put together. I don't think anybody proof-read the final thing other than the authors themselves."
[writing]|16:47 nm says, "we have an editor at MIT Press who does help us out here, but it's supposed to be mainly our responsibility"
[writing]|16:48 nm says, " http://mitpress.mit.edu/catalog/item/default.asp?ttype=2&tid=13015 "
[writing]|16:48 nm says, "is the book"
[writing]|16:49 Gunther says, "man you're pumping them out"
[writing]|16:50 nm says, "it would be faster if I didn't involve 9 other people"
[writing]|16:50 nm says, "but, there are benefits, too"
[writing]|16:51 Gunther says, "awesome, MIT eBooks are in some idiotic proprietary Flash format"
[writing]|16:51 nm says, "oh god"
[writing]|16:51 nm says, "I met the guy who did that"
[writing]|16:51 nm says, "I didn't realize what it was he was doing, though"
[writing]|16:52 nm says, "ours will be a free PDF"
[writing]|16:52 Gunther says, "oh, whew, also Kindle"
[writing]|16:52 nm says, "yeah I knew about that"
[lounge]|16:54 olethros says, "z"
[lounge]|16:54 olethros has ordered three mega-generators to be installed in his boathouse.
[lounge]|16:55 Yuri goes home.
[lounge]|17:02 Limax can still use camel, wombat, salad, earlobe and offend.
[lounge]|17:04 jenrexrode says, "hi"
[lounge]|17:04 Gunther says, "jennnnnnnnnnnn"
[lounge]|17:04 Limax says, "Hi"
[dreams]|17:10 jenrexrode says, "I dreamt that I had bought  a train ticket for a 17 hour trip, but I had to cancel it, because I didn't have time for the trip because I had to go to work the next day."
[lounge]|17:10 Limax walks slowly out of the room and into the sunset.
[dreams]|17:12 jenrexrode says, "IRL I'm on my first day of 2 weeks off, and my only obligations are pets (with a couple of vet appointments on the 2 Mondays)"
[apropos-of-nothing]|17:12 Gunther | Imagine a movie where an anime Clark Kent gains the powers to punch cancer to death. Now try to figure out how something where this happens can be so incredibly boring. I will not blame you if this puts you to sleep.
[apropos-of-nothing]|17:15 jenrexrode asks, "then how about a punch that kills insomnia?"
[apropos-of-nothing]|17:16 Gunther says, "easier"
[TV]|17:17 DorianX says, "annoying"
[TV]|17:18 DorianX says, "I managed ot get a bootleg copy of five episodes of Read All About It"
[TV]|17:18 DorianX says, "But the quality is very close to totally unwatchable"
[TV]|17:19 DorianX says, "Also the recording is't very clean"
[lounge]|17:19 Nitku leaves.
[TV]|17:19 DorianX says, "Also, there is a character who is like the third early 80s incidental character in a children's show who dresses like theeleventh doctor"
[videogames]|17:20 K-Y says, "some guy just went up on stage at a fighting game tournament to propose marriage"
[lounge]|17:21 Whizzard enters the lounge. Wait, wasn't he already here? Yes, he was! Whizzard kills his doppelganger as the MUD passes a resolution against human cloning.
[lounge]|17:21 Whizzard says, "Weesh. That's enough adventure for one day."
[story]|17:23 Whizzard says, "So, lunch was eventful."
[TV]|17:24 DorianX says, "Wow. Okay. SO it turns out that the rhetorical style of educational children's shows is actually really awful"
[story]|17:25 Whizzard says, "I was eating lunch at Caravelle's, as I often do, and the owner lady asked my help with a guy who was passed out at one of the tables."
[story]|17:25 vimes says, "do tell!"
[videogames]|17:25 K-Y says, "meanwhile, one of the sideshows has Skullgirls top 8"
[TV]|17:25 DorianX says, "On the other hand, I did learn something"
[story]|17:25 Whizzard says, "So, I asked if he was okay, shook him, and nothing. Dude started snoring."
[TV]|17:25 DorianX says, "The paint roller is a canadian invention"
[story]|17:25 Whizzard says, "Just briefly, but I was glad to hear he was breathing."
[story]|17:26 Whizzard says, "But he absolutely wasn't waking up, so I told the owner to go ahead and call 911."
[story]|17:26 Gunther says, "man"
[videogames]|17:26 Gunther says (to K-Y), ""sure, if you can BEAT ME""
[videogames]|17:26 K-Y says, "har"
[story]|17:26 vimes says, "man, crazy"
[story]|17:27 Whizzard says, "After a bit of explanation, a medic got on the line and said to watch his breathing and check his mouth for food lodged or vomit, so I did, but thank god, there was nothing."
[TV]|17:27 DorianX says, "ALso, Ifeel  like I am being assaulted by vocabulary words."
[story]|17:27 Whizzard says, "To do this we had to sit him up, and he was still passed out through that, and through me sticking my fingers in his mouth."
[story]|17:28 Whizzard says, "So clearly, the guy was having some issues of some kind."
[story]|17:28 Whizzard says, "Cuz you just don't sleep through that."
[story]|17:28 Gunther says, "drunk as fuck, presumably"
[TV]|17:28 DorianX says, ""We would like to extend you our *congratulations* on your *accomplishment* in this *endeavour*"
[story]|17:28 Gunther says, "if not that, possibly post-tonic/clonic incident"
[story]|17:28 Whizzard says, "Well, he did stink a bit of alcohol, but not as much as I would expect for "dead to the world"."
[story]|17:29 vimes says, "dude passed out cold while we were eating thai food once"
[story]|17:29 Gunther says, "as in epilepsy, not gin and"
[story]|17:29 vimes says, "turned out what happened was he had been camping for the last four days and drank literally nothing but beer"
[story]|17:29 Gunther says, "or he's a fainting goat"
[story]|17:29 vimes says (to Gunther), "ha ha"
[story]|17:30 Whizzard says, "Anyhow, the ambulance shows up pretty damn fast, and the medic came in and shone a light in his eyes and looked him over a bit."
[story]|17:30 Gunther says, "I am listing these in decreasing order of probability :C"
[videogames]|17:30 K-Y says, "this game is so weird"
[story]|17:30 Whizzard says, ""I'd say he's been doing some heroin today, along with some alcohol.""
[story]|17:30 Whizzard says, "So, soon after, the cops showed up as the medics were getting him on a stretcher, only NOW he woke up a bit."
[story]|17:31 Whizzard says, "And they buckled him in a bit, and searched his backpack, and he started giving them grief but the cop was just like, "Well, you only have 2 options. Go with the medics, or go to jail.""
[videogames]|17:32 K-Y says, "a character just turned into a fridge"
[TV]|17:32 DorianX says, "wait. That jid just got in a car with a stranger."
[story]|17:32 Whizzard says, "They took him out in the ambulance, and I'm guessing gave him something and checked him for drugs in his system."
[TV]|17:32 jenrexrode says, "whoops"
[story]|17:33 Whizzard says, "And then, they marched him out of the ambulance and into the cop car, and drove him off. The head cop came back to talk to restaurant owner lady a bit and I nodded at the right parts, and that was that."
[lounge]|17:33 Fang is a veritable smorgasbord of visual variables.
[TV]|17:35 Gunther says, "all this pedophilia hysteria has really made life hard for us honest child murderers"
[lounge]|17:35 nm goes home.
[story]|17:35 Whizzard says, "Anyway, owner lady was grateful that I'd helped her out and talked to 911 for her (her English isn't super great), and I assured her she'd done the right thing (he could've been dying), and lunch was on the house. It's been a weird day."
[story]|17:35 Gunther says, "now her son is in your house, painting your miniatures"
[lounge]|17:36 Marvin couldn't unite two bits of lego.
[lounge]|17:36 Marvin says, "Hi."
[TV]|17:38 DorianX says, "Man. Apparently canadian educational TV of the early 80s is a big pile of rights-hell"
[TV]|17:39 DorianX says, "I'd realy love to get a DVD rerelease of Read All About It and Today's Special"
[whiz-games]|17:39 Gunther asks, "wait, you're doing Dys Wars, right?"
[TV]|17:40 DorianX says, "But apparently you ave to pay royalties up front instead of a percentage of actual sales"
[beer]|17:42 maga says, "back from brewery tour"
[beer]|17:42 maga says, "there seems to be a rule that each craft brewery is only allowed one really good beer"
[lounge]|17:43 Lucea had the olive complexion.
[lounge]|17:43 Lucea says, "hi"
[beer]|17:43 maga says, "Pyramid has a pretty good barleywine, Hale's has a decent imperial IPA, Hilliard's has a quite lovely saison-in-a-can"
[beer]|17:44 Allen says, "I always considered Pyramid a 2nd-to-3rd rate brewer"
[lounge]|17:44 jenrexrode asks, "is there a length limit to the olounge?"
[beer]|17:45 Allen says, "actually, there beers aren't sold here any more, but they were here for years"
[beer]|17:45 maga says, "they're mostly sort of just about okay. They've got a nice apricot ale, and a strangely interesting wheat IPA, but their basic beers are all pretty boring"
[stress]|17:46 * jenrexrode has joined the channel.
[lounge]|17:46 Lucea says, "no idea"
[stress]|17:47 jenrexrode says, "this is vacation.  I shouldn't have eyelids twitching."
[beer]|17:48 Allen says, "I remember their apricot ale"
[beer]|17:48 Allen says, "that's been in their main lineup since the beginning"
[beer]|17:49 maga says, "I am a very easy sell on anything apricot-related"
[beer]|17:49 jenrexrode says, "I wanted one of those fruity beers at the grocery store last month, and only found Shiner grapefruit"
[facepalm]|17:49 Gunther says, "NOT a joke: http://www.businessesgrow.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Klout-invite.jpg "
[lounge]|17:49 Gunther says (to jenrexrode), "technically not really, practically we'd rather people didn't"
[facepalm]|17:50 Allen asks, "what is Klout?"
[facepalm]|17:51 Allen says, "never mind, went to the site"
[facepalm]|17:54 Gunther says, "bullshit. it is pure unadulterated bullshit."
[story]|17:55 Ellison says, "#belated nice, it's been too long since we had an entertaining story on this channel!"
[beer]|17:56 vimes says (to maga), "i should have brought you some of our apricot jam, then"
[beer]|17:58 maga says (to vimes), "yes, yes you should"
[facepalm]|18:01 Lucea says, "....."
[facepalm]|18:02 Lucea says, "also I fail to see how this is in the tradition of tavi gevinson. does everyone attending have to be under 14"
[tangent]|18:05 Lucea says, "the clip art on that site is something else"
[tangent]|18:05 Lucea says, "on blog comments:"
[tangent]|18:05 Lucea says, " http://www.businessesgrow.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/conversation.jpg "
[whiz-games]|18:12 Whizzard asks, "Hmm?"
[whiz-games]|18:12 Whizzard asks, "Doing Dys Wars?"
[whiz-games]|18:12 Whizzard says, "I'm playing it, yeah."
[lounge]|18:15 Ellison says, "csb"
[lounge]|18:15 Ellison goes back to Squeamhurst..
[lounge]|18:15 * Ellison has disconnected.
[lounge]|18:27 borowski is now in glorious BLACK & WHITE!
[lounge]|18:28 jenrexrode says, "hey b"
[lounge]|18:28 borowski says, "Hey JRR, everybody"
[stress]|18:28 * borowski has joined the channel.
[story]|18:28 * borowski has joined the channel.
[facepalm]|18:28 * borowski has joined the channel.
[whiz-games]|18:29 Whizzard says (to Gunther), "<poke>"
[story]|18:30 * jenrexrode has joined the channel.
[facepalm]|18:30 * jenrexrode has joined the channel.
[stress]|18:33 borowski asks, "Stressful vacation?"
[lounge]|18:34 jenrexrode wanders off.
[science]|18:34 vimes says, "holy crap, tiny wasp"
[science]|18:34 vimes | http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2011/11/30/how-fairy-wasps-cope-with-being-smaller-than-amoebas/
[science]|18:34 vimes | At just 200 micrometres (a fifth of a millimetre), this wasp is the third smallest insect alive
[science]|18:34 vimes says, "*third* smallest insect"
[lounge]|18:35 jenrexrode has entered the lounge. [ Your score has gone up by 10 points ]
[science]|18:35 inky says, "wow"
[stress]|18:35 jenrexrode says, "I don't think so. maybe it's just left over from work."
[security]|18:40 Allen says, "this was from a few months ago, which I missed"
[security]|18:40 Allen | Syrian President's Email Hacked... His Password Was 12345
[security]|18:40 inky says, "hooray"
[security]|18:42 vimes says, "now, of course, he's changed it to something much more secure, like 'swordfish'"
[security]|18:42 vimes says, "or maybe even 123456"
[security]|18:42 borowski asks, "When will people learn to use 54321?"
[security]|18:42 vimes says, "back that pass up"
[science]|18:43 Binder says, "that is some sick science"
[lounge]|18:44 Emily goes home.
[lounge]|18:44 * Emily has disconnected.
[science]|18:45 DorianX says, "so now you know where all of creation came from"
[science]|18:45 DorianX says, "See, first God made this wasp"
[science]|18:45 DorianX says, "and then He swallowed it"
[science]|18:45 DorianX says, "and he needed something He could swallow that would catch it."
[science]|18:45 DorianX says, "and, as happens, He got carried away"
[science]|18:46 vimes says, "yay"
[science]|18:46 vimes says, "he swallowed your sin to catch the devil"
[science]|18:46 vimes says, "poor old christ, i think he'll die"
[English]|18:49 inky | the bottom line is - it is (was, last time I checked) still leaking like Eratosthenes' sieve
[lounge]|18:50 DavidW materializes out from a silver haze in the light.
[lounge]|18:50 DavidW wakes
[lounge]|18:50 jenrexrode says, "hey dw"
[English]|18:51 borowski asks, "The bottom line is leaking prime numbers?"
[DustWorld]|18:51 DavidW says, "At least I woke up in time to buy some deli ends and fish sticks from Di Pietros."
[lounge]|18:51 borowski says, "Hey DavidW"
[lounge]|18:51 DavidW says, "hey hey"
[DustWorld]|18:51 inky says, "fish sticks eh"
[DustWorld]|18:51 DavidW says, "I have a weakness for them."
[DustWorld]|18:51 borowski says, "The deli ends don't justify the meats."
[DustWorld]|18:52 DavidW says, "Blame my high school lunch room."
[DustWorld]|18:52 jenrexrode says (to boro), "hehe"
[DustWorld]|18:52 DavidW says (to borowski), "They don't juxtapose them either."
[DustWorld]|18:53 jenrexrode asks, "are ends cheap?"
[DustWorld]|18:53 DavidW says, "Deli ends are a good deal. Assorted sandwich meat at a cheap price."
[copyright]|18:54 Allen says, "hey, US government antipiracy PSA: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cx8obpx4844 "
[DustWorld]|18:54 borowski says, "Fish sticks can be pretty tasty."
[copyright]|18:54 Allen says, "I got bounced here after accessing a site whose domain name the gov had seized"
[DustWorld]|18:55 DavidW says, "I bought 700g of deli meat for four dollars."
[copyright]|18:55 inky says, "aha"
[copyright]|18:55 inky says, "I was trying to figure out how you got a link to it if it's unlisted"
[copyright]|18:56 Allen says, "it displayed the government seizure message for about 5 seconds, then redirected"
[DustWorld]|18:57 DavidW says, "These are a in-store fish sticks, not name brand, and they are rather tasty, yes."
[DustWorld]|18:58 inky says, "the fish didn't have names anyway"
[DustWorld]|18:58 DavidW says, "Only trouble with them is that two sticks are often breaded together, so you have to separate them at some point in the cooking."
[lounge]|19:00 Lucea is gonna get back baby bad balls to you, love, cretin.
[lounge]|19:00 * Lucea has disconnected.
[lounge]|19:00 zarf walks in through the wall. Behind him, light shines briefly through, blinding white this time of day.
[lounge]|19:00 inky says, "howdy"
[lounge]|19:01 Whizzard says, "loz"
[DustWorld]|19:01 inky says, "it's like siamese twins"
[lounge]|19:01 zarf says, "hello"
[DustWorld]|19:01 DavidW says, "yes, exactly."
[DustWorld]|19:01 inky says, "carefully separate the fish sticks and then sew the breading back together"
[DustWorld]|19:01 inky says, "done properly these fish sticks can grow up to lead entirely normal lives until they are eaten"
[lounge]|19:01 jenrexrode says, "hi z"
[DustWorld]|19:08 borowski says, "Hooray!"
[DustWorld]|19:08 jenrexrode says (to inky), "hehe"
[DustWorld]|19:10 borowski says, "Now I'll never be able to eat a fish stick without wondering what's its name and if it lead a good life up to that point."
[DustWorld]|19:12 boucher asks (of borowski), "So do you like fishsticks?"
[jendoodle]|19:13 jenrexrode says, "all 5 of us in the bed"
[DustWorld]|19:13 borowski says, "Of course! I love putting them in my mouth."
[DustWorld]|19:13 boucher asks, "Who are you, then, Kanye West?"
[DustWorld]|19:13 boucher says, "Wait, no, I messed that up..."
[DustWorld]|19:13 borowski says, "heh"
[jendoodle]|19:14 borowski says, "That sounds like a good vacation."
[lounge]|19:14 borowski says, "Off to dinner with the family."
[jendoodle]|19:14 jenrexrode says, "heh"
[lounge]|19:14 borowski accidently crossed his own time stream.
[lounge]|19:14 * borowski has disconnected.
[lounge]|19:14 jenrexrode says, "seeya"
[lounge]|19:14 jenrexrode says, "aw"
[kitties]|19:16 boucher says, "So, the kitties seem to generally be gettling by okay."
[lounge]|19:16 boucher goes home.
[lounge]|19:16 * boucher has disconnected.
[lounge]|19:17 Marktwo goes home.
[lounge]|19:17 * Marktwo has disconnected.
[lounge]|19:17 Marktwo appears out of nowhere, now with fighting kung-fu action!
[lounge]|19:17 boucher appears out of nowhere. Killer robotic players on the loose!
[kitties]|19:18 boucher says, "Of ours, Libby is just attention-hungry.  Callie is hiding more, but isn't being beaten up or displaced from her favorite spots."
[kitties]|19:19 boucher says, "Of my grandmother's, Apollo is very friendly, inquisitive, and is exploring everywhere.  He even wants in my room, or would if I didn't keep it shut much of the time.  His jaw doesn't even seem to be bothering him, as he sucks up chin scratches just as much as anything"
[kitties]|19:19 jenrexrode says, "I've been watching 'my cat from hell' all afternoon"
[kitties]|19:20 boucher says, "O'kay is shier, but has a new favorite spot in a quiet dress-shrouded corner of the closet, but comes out readily to greet me and seek pets and has the sweetest little meow."
[kitties]|19:20 boucher says, "Ah, I watch a moderate amount of that when I was sick"
[kitties]|19:21 boucher says, "Cat psychology isn't really too hard once you stop to consider some basic habits and perspectives."
[kitties]|19:22 boucher says, "Cats don't like too much change, they often like to be shown things and included in decisions, and otherwise just giving them privacy, a nice vantage point, and lots of patience usually does the trick."
[kitties]|19:22 jenrexrode says, "this NYC apt. with the skinny hallways was new problem for me - it was allowing too much cornering  of the weaker cat"
[kitties]|19:23 boucher says, "When my grandmother was doing her move, there was a new thing I'd never seen before that made it less stressful..."
[kitties]|19:24 boucher says, "A pheromone spray that relaxes them."
[kitties]|19:25 boucher says, "With that, there was minimal crying and fussing and it was a fairly long ride too, so..."
[kitties]|19:25 jenrexrode says, "huh"
[kitties]|19:25 boucher says, " http://www.feliway.com/ "
[kitties]|19:26 vimes says, "we tried the pheremone thing for our cats and it...sort of helped"
[kitties]|19:27 vimes says, "it made them sulky in the car instead of cuisinart-y"
[kitties]|19:27 jenrexrode says, "heh"
[kitties]|19:27 boucher says, "Well, yeah, I don't know if it's the magic wand for everyday life the website claims it is"
[kitties]|19:27 boucher says, "But it got them here without fuss, and that was necessary, so yeah..."
[kitties]|19:28 boucher says, "Supposedly it just mimics a 'safe place' signal cats give off"
[kitties]|19:29 boucher says, "I assume they also have an alarm signal"
[kitties]|19:29 boucher says, "Because there is something about the vet that sets ours off when in the waiting room, and it's not as if it's a cat torture chamber."
[kitties]|19:30 boucher says, "My aunt had one cat that had to have 'the sack'"
[kitties]|19:30 boucher says, "This thick canvas thing, like a mail bag, cinched up around his neck."
[kitties]|19:31 boucher says, "And he still clawed through it and nearly drew blood"
[kitties]|19:31 boucher says, "But then, he might have been a bit psychotic"
[kitties]|19:32 boucher says, "He would get this nuts look in his eyes, lash out, then act calm again, and you got very little warning."
[videogames]|19:32 K-Y says, "for those who still think Mortal Kombat is the cutting edge of fighting games, they'll be playing that in half an hour"
[kitties]|19:33 jenrexrode says, "now only 4 of us on the bed - mistakenly petted Nermal and he got overstimulated, kneading and rubbing on the computer table.  Had to run him off"
[kitties]|19:33 boucher says, "He'd often get a little overwound playing, or get...seriously...high on BO (my aunt would facepalm when Tang would wallow in an undignified fashion in the armpits of guests' coats)"
[kitties]|19:34 boucher says, "Also, he liked to get up on the back of the couch and run his teeth across your scalp in the most unnerving feeling, but you didn't dare swat him away because he might lash out"
[space]|19:34 * NewsBoy hollers, "Extra! Extra! inky has posted message 217, about 'every US space shuttle launch', to the bulletin board! At least it can't be worse than playing Farmville."
[politics]|19:34 Allen says, "Colorado legislator:"
[politics]|19:34 Allen | "You know, we'd have to hear more on that, because, as he said, mosques are not churches like we would think of churches," Grantham said. "They think of mosques more as a foothold into a society, as a foothold into a community, more in the cultural and in the nationalistic sense. Our churches -- we don't feel that way, they're places of worship, and mosques are simply not that, and we need to take that into account when approving construction of those."
[kitties]|19:34 vimes says, "twilight wallows in a very dignified fashion in laura's swimsuits"
[kitties]|19:35 jenrexrode asks, "like nibbling for fleas?"
[kitties]|19:35 vimes says, "he picks them up with a paw and rubs them violently on his face"
[kitties]|19:35 jenrexrode says (to vimes), "wow"
[kitties]|19:35 boucher says, "His name was Tang, but we often mockingly called him Fang because his chin was very small, and he had an overbite, so his fangs extended beyond his lower jaw like some Himalayan saber-toothed tiger."
[kitties]|19:36 vimes says, "ha ha"
[music]|19:42 Allen | Over the past decade or so, the bubblegum pop and kitsch dance routines of South Korean K-pop bands have taken the charts by storm across Asia and Latin America. Across the Korean border to the north, meanwhile, broadcasters are prompting a track somewhat less likely to find international success: a new signature song for youthful leader Kim Jong-un.
[music]|19:42 Allen | The anthem - catchily titled Onwards Toward the Final Victory is part of the propaganda drive to build up the image of the "great successor". Radio and television are airing it several times a day and the score has already been printed in the official newspaper Rodong Sinmun.
[lounge]|19:42 Grocible says, "hey all"
[music]|19:42 Whizzard says, "Ick."
[cabal]|19:42 Grocible says, "another wacky evening"
[music]|19:43 maga says, "he doesn't have much of a dance routine, but you should see the backup dancers"
[cabal]|19:43 inky asks, "oh yeah?"
[music]|19:43 Allen | http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2012/jul/06/north-korea-kim-jong-un-song-video
[lounge]|19:43 BrenBarn busta.
[lounge]|19:44 jenrexrode says, "hi bb"
[lounge]|19:44 BrenBarn says, "hi"
[cabal]|19:44 Grocible says, "Kubrick's widow runs this annual arts show on the family estate"
[ads]|19:45 jenrexrode says, "aw, cARMsleeve isn't real"
[cabal]|19:45 Grocible says, "all these not very well known artists turn up and it's this big family fun day"
[ads]|19:46 jenrexrode | http://youtu.be/XqLMdF3ViTQ
[lounge]|19:46 BrenBarn flashes the "catch you later" handsign.
[cabal]|19:46 inky says, "hunh"
[cabal]|19:46 inky says, "I don't understand how you got into this whole thing with them"
[lounge]|19:46 BrenBarn busta.
[cabal]|19:46 inky asks, "was it by mailing that guy asking about the lenses for the film?"
[cabal]|19:46 Grocible says, "anyway. lovely day chatting with folks, dinner with 'em afterwards. super friendly and relaxed"
[cabal]|19:47 Grocible says, "yeah"
[cabal]|19:47 inky says, "man"
[cabal]|19:47 inky says, "you just never know how what these things are going to turn into"
[cabal]|19:47 Grocible says, "indeed"
[lounge]|19:49 Rob comes right on in.
[lounge]|19:49 Rob says, "gblrp"
[lounge]|19:49 jenrexrode says, "hey rob"
[lounge]|19:49 Rob says, "hi"
[cabal]|19:50 Grocible says, "it's just really interesting meeting these folks and, well, I'm not an equal or peer frankly, but just being treated respectfully andin a friendly way"
[lounge]|19:51 Ellison arrives from the east.
[lounge]|19:51 Ellison says, "re"
[lounge]|19:51 jenrexrode says, "hey-ell"
[way-secret]|19:52 Rob says, "emily and graham are *getting married* ? what the whoa nelly"
[cabal]|19:52 Grocible says, "you know - and not feeling young and insecure"
[cabal]|19:52 Grocible says, "though since I'm gettin' old I should be getting over that by now"
[way-secret]|19:52 inky says, "yeah, it's pretty crazy"
[way-secret]|19:53 Rob says, "I didn't know it was going to ever come to that"
[way-secret]|19:53 inky says, "I talked to her briefly before she left for england this last time and she was stressing about the relationship and thinking they were going to have to break up maybe"
[way-secret]|19:53 Rob says, "hmph the truth is it'd be kinda interesting to meet graham"
[way-secret]|19:53 inky says, "so I guess they were sort of coming to a crisis point, but I'm glad to hear they came through ok"
[way-secret]|19:53 Rob says, "huh"
[way-secret]|19:54 inky says, "yeah, I feel like we should tape it"
[TMI]|19:54 jenrexrode exclaims, "aiiie maddie threw up under the covers!!!"
[way-secret]|19:54 Rob asks, "so is the immigration footnote to the post she made about her trying to move to england?"
[way-secret]|19:54 inky says, "maybe with steve irwin style navigation"
[way-secret]|19:54 Rob asks, "are .. uh.. are you gonna go?"
[way-secret]|19:54 inky says, "sure"
[TMI]|19:54 Rob says, "ewww"
[way-secret]|19:54 Rob says, "ok"
[way-secret]|19:54 Rob says, "I guess you're pretty secure now that you've got your own plans"
[way-secret]|19:55 inky says, "things aren't 100% smooth with us but I think me going is a better way to get there than me not going"
[way-secret]|19:55 Rob says, "I just say this because, hm, your breaking up with emily hurt my friendship with her, because I basically instinctively sided with you for my own reasons"
[cabal]|19:55 Grocible says, "and it's weird knowing that Kubrick is buried just over that hedge over there"
[way-secret]|19:55 inky says, "and she's invited to my wedding so it seems only right"
[way-secret]|19:55 inky says, "erf"
[way-secret]|19:55 inky says, "I am sorry to hear that -- I didn't realize"
[way-secret]|19:55 Rob says, "and so it was like she broke up with both of us, because the three of us were tight beforehand"
[way-secret]|19:55 Rob says, "witness the silence on #boing and whatnot"
[lounge]|19:55 Grocible says, "hm. hungry"
[way-secret]|19:56 inky says, "yeah"
[lounge]|19:56 Grocible says, "maybe I'll have some cereal"
[jendoodle]|19:56 jenrexrode exclaims, "now only maddie is in the bed!"
[way-secret]|19:56 Rob says, "well it was weird and complicated on my end"
[lounge]|19:56 jenrexrode says, "yum"
[way-secret]|19:56 inky says, "I appreciate what that says about you and me though"
[way-secret]|19:56 Rob says, "I sided with Iain when he broke up with Storme and broke things there too"
[jendoodle]|19:56 jenrexrode says, "time for clean sheets, I say"
[way-secret]|19:56 Rob says, "yeah that's why I'm tellin' ya after all these years"
[way-secret]|19:56 inky says, "yeah"
[way-secret]|19:56 inky says, "well, I kind of got the vibe Iain was a little hard done by"
[way-secret]|19:56 Rob says, "it's sort of a guy comeraderie thing with me, I dunno what it is exactly, but I've observed how I've reacted"
[way-secret]|19:56 inky says, "but I guess you don't really know what it's like on the inside"
[way-secret]|19:56 inky says, "yeah"
[way-secret]|19:57 inky says, "also, speaking of you and me and the wedding, I see by our wedding website you don't seem to have viewed the save-the-date we sent!"
[way-secret]|19:57 Rob says, "there was a boston PAX meet near there and I had a pub run with Iain where I said 'hey this is none of my business, but that was messed up not in your favor' and he appreciated that I meant it"
[way-secret]|19:57 inky says, "and I don't know if that is because we sent it to the wrong address or it got spamfiltered or the website is just wrong about it"
[way-secret]|19:57 Rob asks, "did you email me or send me a mail thing?"
[way-secret]|19:57 Rob says, "well you have to remember that I fail to check my email for weeks at a time"
[way-secret]|19:57 inky says, "it was some doofy automated email from glosite"
[way-secret]|19:57 Rob says, "I can get on that though"
[way-secret]|19:57 inky says, "yeah that is true"
[lounge]|19:58 Grocible says, "meanwhile Jennifer's playing the free Angry Birds"
[lounge]|19:58 Grocible says, "and the cat is trying to help"
[way-secret]|19:58 Rob says, "but yeah Emily and I have had our times of reconnecting a bit since then but she doesn't fully trust me any more is sort of what it is"
[lounge]|19:58 Grocible says, "cat has weak grasp of game physics though"
[way-secret]|19:58 inky says, "mrf, I'm sorry to hear that"
[lounge]|19:58 Fang is told of the death of Christ, and becomes so angry that the brain bursts from his head, and he dies. The blood from the wound baptises him as a Christian, and his soul goes to heaven.
[way-secret]|19:59 Rob says, "explaining more of what I was all about from my end in this equation would take being face to face with you and having a meal and a few drinks or something"
[way-secret]|19:59 inky says, "heh"
[way-secret]|19:59 inky says, "well we will work in time for that at some point"
[way-secret]|19:59 Rob says, "I think so"
[way-secret]|19:59 Rob says, "anyway I just emailed emily and said it's very unlikely that I can go but I would love to go to the engagement party"
[way-secret]|20:00 Rob says, "my cousin is getting married in the first half of august so another august trip seems iffy"
[politics]|20:00 McMartin says, "The Jezebel headline put it best, really"
[way-secret]|20:00 inky says, "man everyone's getting married, what's up with that"
[way-secret]|20:00 Rob says, "although if emily actually marries graham it's likely I will someday meet him anyway"
[politics]|20:00 McMartin | Republican horrified to discover that Christianity is not the only religion
[politics]|20:01 McMartin says, "Appears to be a different case of this"
[politics]|20:01 McMartin | http://jezebel.com/5923898/republican-horrified-to-discover-that-christianity-is-not-the-only-religion
[way-secret]|20:01 inky says, "at that point he's pinned down and it's only a question of cornering him"
[way-secret]|20:01 Rob says, "oh lemme look for that email from you while I'm thinking about it"
[way-secret]|20:02 inky says, "you can click through to the website to see a picture of hannah too"
[way-secret]|20:02 Rob says, "glosite"
[way-secret]|20:02 Rob asks, "is the website url in the email?"
[way-secret]|20:02 inky says, "though I feel like I showed you one at some point a while back"
[way-secret]|20:02 Rob says, "actually I still don't know what she looks like!"
[way-secret]|20:03 inky says, "well then!"
[way-secret]|20:03 Rob says, "I just have imagined she's cute"
[way-secret]|20:03 inky says, "hee hee"
[way-secret]|20:03 Rob says, "and intelligent lookin"
[way-secret]|20:03 Rob says, "and serious about social issues"
[way-secret]|20:03 inky says, "and kittens"
[way-secret]|20:03 Rob says, "she must have a fairly good sense of humor too I imagine"
[way-secret]|20:04 Rob says, "have you ever said yeah let me tell you about this weird friend Rob I have"
[way-secret]|20:04 Rob says, "he's crazy but he means well I think"
[way-secret]|20:04 inky says, "of course, I tell her all about you"
[way-secret]|20:04 inky says, "hee hee"
[way-secret]|20:04 inky says, "not like that"
[way-secret]|20:04 Rob says, "yeah I'm just projecting"
[way-secret]|20:05 inky says, "I say that you live in austin and work on movies and drawing and writing and other art stuff"
[way-secret]|20:05 inky says, "and have a coffee shop you hang out at all the time"
[way-secret]|20:05 Rob says, "I'm working through a load of things lately as if I had a therapist guiding me but I'm my own therapist"
[way-secret]|20:05 inky says, "and wear a lot of hats"
[way-secret]|20:05 Rob says, "ok that's pretty good"
[way-secret]|20:05 inky says, "or one hat a lot of the time"
[way-secret]|20:05 Rob says, "also I'm the mayor of magnolia cafe"
[way-secret]|20:05 Rob says, "that hat is fifteen years old now !"
[way-secret]|20:05 inky says, "dang"
[way-secret]|20:06 Rob says, "it is looking a little tired like it wants to retire and snooze on a coatrack for its later years"
[way-secret]|20:06 Rob says, "and I'm feeling hard pressed to replace it so it can have a well earned retirement"
[way-secret]|20:06 inky says, "hee hee"
[way-secret]|20:06 inky asks, "where did you get it?"
[way-secret]|20:06 Rob says, "I get awful fond of inanimate things I'm close to"
[way-secret]|20:06 Rob says, "I got it -- in Paris, France !"
[way-secret]|20:06 inky says, "honh honh honh!"
[way-secret]|20:06 Rob says, "on the only european trip I ever took"
[way-secret]|20:07 Rob says, "which I got because I was working as a movie sound guy in those years (1997)"
[way-secret]|20:07 Rob says, "and the first and second and maybe third choices for sound guy on a documentary couldn't do it"
[way-secret]|20:07 Rob says, "so I not only went to france I got paid to go"
[way-secret]|20:07 Rob says, "and I had been wanting a hat exactly like that for years, and I thought to myself, 'I bet if I just wander into a shop in france, they will sell men's hats'"
[way-secret]|20:08 Rob says, "and so I had a day off and a stipend and I went to some department store and went up the escalator and there was a men's hats department"
[way-secret]|20:08 Rob says, "chapeaux"
[way-secret]|20:08 Rob says, "and I looked around and the one I found was sort of mislabeled in metric size but fit really snug and perfectly on my head so I bought that one"
[way-secret]|20:09 Rob says, "but I was embarrassed at the time to wear it (because who wore a hat like that in this day and age?) so I kind of hid it after I bought it"
[way-secret]|20:09 inky says, "hmm"
[way-secret]|20:09 inky says, "ha ha"
[way-secret]|20:09 inky says, "I hope you hid it underneath a larger hat"
[way-secret]|20:09 inky says, "like one of those russian fur hats"
[way-secret]|20:09 Rob says, "and on the trip home I crushed it in my luggage or put it in my overhead bag or something, and the plastic frame inside it got a bend in it like a dent"
[way-secret]|20:10 Rob says, "which has been there in it to this day, when now it seems weird I would have ever not been proud to wear it"
[way-secret]|20:10 Rob says, "but it's a reminder of how self-conscious I was after I bought it new"
[way-secret]|20:10 Rob says, "I was instantly sad that the dent was there when I saw it"
[way-secret]|20:10 Rob says, "now it's sort of part of its character"
[way-secret]|20:10 Rob says, "that's the hat story!"
[way-secret]|20:10 Rob says, "I have never given this hat a name, though"
[way-secret]|20:10 Rob says, "hmm"
[way-secret]|20:11 Rob says, "I have another story but I'm taking it to #robmumble"
[way-secret]|20:11 inky says, "it must be shared with the world !"
[robmumble]|20:11 Rob says, "I missed a really good opportunity to talk to a girl who just started working at the cafe today"
[robmumble]|20:12 inky asks, "she just started working today, or the opportunity was today?"
[robmumble]|20:12 Rob says, "and I'm sort of busy analyzing what happened in the moments when I failed to say the right thing at the right moment"
[robmumble]|20:12 Rob says, "well, sort of both"
[robmumble]|20:12 Rob says, "it's within her first week of starting there, the first time I've seen her"
[robmumble]|20:12 inky says, "aha"
[robmumble]|20:12 BrenBarn says, "next time you see her be like 'say, aren't you the lovely lady with whom I missed a good opportunity to talk last week?'"
[robmumble]|20:12 Rob says, "new people start as 'hostess' or 'host', the person who gives you a menu and asks what you want to drink, and brings the drinks, but they don't take your meal order"
[robmumble]|20:13 Rob says, "so I ordered coffee and a glass of water from her, but by the time she turned around, the actual waiter was bringing coffee and water to my table, because people automatically bring me these things by now"
[robmumble]|20:14 Rob says, "so she left and I said to the waiter, a cool guy named Steve who always asks howzitgoin"
[robmumble]|20:14 Rob says, "I said, 'hey, what's her name?'"
[robmumble]|20:14 Rob says, "and he said, 'Amanda. It's her birthday today.'"
[robmumble]|20:14 Rob says, "'So go easy on her.'"
[robmumble]|20:14 Rob says, "and I thought huh"
[robmumble]|20:14 Rob says, "and I thought about whether I would be able to work this knowledge into some conversation with her and decided probably nah"
[robmumble]|20:15 Rob says, "so this Amanda person comes by periodically to give me more coffee or refill my water glass"
[robmumble]|20:15 Rob says, "and I'm sitting there reading the new york times"
[robmumble]|20:15 Rob says, "and on probably her third visit to my table, she suddenly asks, 'Anything interesting going on today?'"
[robmumble]|20:15 Rob says, "indicating the newspaper"
[lounge]|20:16 * boucher has disconnected.
[lounge]|20:16 * boucher has connected.
[robmumble]|20:16 Rob says, "and the upshot is that like a moron I say 'nope' and end the conversation with one word"
[robmumble]|20:16 Rob says, "but in my head a complicated brew of things went on in about four seconds"
[robmumble]|20:16 Rob says, "one was that I instantly thought to say, 'Why yes, apparently today's your birthday!'"
[lounge]|20:17 * boucher has disconnected.
[lounge]|20:17 * boucher has connected.
[robmumble]|20:17 Rob says, "then a gate in between my head and my mouth swung shut and didn't let me say that, instead beckoning that I think it over before doing so"
[robmumble]|20:17 Rob says, "so I did so, and I thought it still seemed ok, but I was losing confidence"
[lounge]|20:17 * Marktwo has disconnected.
[lounge]|20:17 * Marktwo has connected.
[robmumble]|20:17 Rob says, "second, I was so taken aback that she said something like this that I could not for the life of me remember anything I'd been reading for the past 25 minutes"
[politics]|20:18 DorianX says, "Yeah."
[robmumble]|20:18 Rob says, "third, I recalled that I'd already decided not to try mentioning the birthday thing"
[robmumble]|20:18 Rob says, "fourth, I thought, it's been a long stupid pause, I should say anything, so I said 'nope'"
[robmumble]|20:18 Rob says, "a few moments after that I thought, 'she's only asking this because she's trying to find some reason to have small-talk conversation'"
[robmumble]|20:19 Rob says, "so now I'm trying to figure out what made some gate swing shut on saying 'Apparently it's your birthday! Happy birthday! are you doing anything fun tonight?' and so on"
[robmumble]|20:20 inky says, "well, it's never too late to wish someone a belated birthday"
[robmumble]|20:21 Rob says, "lately I'm kind of on a detective mission to figure out what inhibitions I have in terms of communicating with other people. some of them seemed learned or even programmed, like I've written code that runs in my brain to censor myself, and some of it seems innate, like I could be drunk as a skunk and I'd still be inhibited in that way"
[robmumble]|20:21 Rob says, "yeah well it kind of was a one of a kind moment"
[robmumble]|20:21 Rob says, "if I'd returned to the cafe a few hours later it would be weird being a customer who comes back a few hours later"
[robmumble]|20:21 Rob says, "especially with some sort of icky premeditated thing he feels like he wants to say"
[robmumble]|20:22 Rob says, "so I wish I'd seized that moment and just let the first thing that popped into my head to say to be said, but I blocked it"
[robmumble]|20:22 inky says, "it is true the script would have been smoother if you talked then sure"
[robmumble]|20:22 Rob says, "yeah"
[lounge]|20:22 jenrexrode wanders off.
[robmumble]|20:23 inky says, "but there is also a totally normal scene where you show up the next time you show up and when she comes over to your table you say "hey, I hear it was your birthday a few days ago! happy birthday!""
[robmumble]|20:23 Rob says, "anyway when I observe myself doing this kind of thing I retroactively get kind of fascinated with piecing it out and trying to determine if I can rewrite any brain code that's suppressing perfectly ok stuff to say"
[robmumble]|20:23 Rob says, "hm yeah that's possible"
[robmumble]|20:24 BrenBarn says, "interaction is like the unit test suite for the brain"
[robmumble]|20:24 Rob says, "I'm kind of on this mission to discover whether I could be living a slightly more enjoyable life if I weren't quite so bound up and self-conscious"
[robmumble]|20:25 Rob says, "I am aware that all of this what I've called brain code that I've written to constrain myself is the result of having in some earlier younger point spoken spontaneously and had a terribly bad reaction happen"
[robmumble]|20:25 Rob says, "where I feel bad and the person I said something to has not liked it and I basically took the lesson that I shouldn't ever speak spontaneously"
[robmumble]|20:25 Rob says, "which I don't think is actually the right lesson to have taken from it"
[robmumble]|20:26 Rob says, "like I clamped down on myself way too hard"
[robmumble]|20:26 inky says, "dang"
[robmumble]|20:27 Rob says, "I've been experimenting lately with trying to say things spontaneously without filtering them, and I often feel ok in the moment and then wake up the next day feeling tortured with regret and shame and anxiety that lasts for half a day"
[robmumble]|20:27 Rob says, "oh god I shouldn't have said that why I did I say that aughhh"
[robmumble]|20:27 Rob says, "and I'm at the point where I still feel those feelings but another part of me tries to talk myself down from it"
[robmumble]|20:27 inky says, "wow"
[robmumble]|20:28 inky asks, "do you stress about people's reactions, or just about the fact that you said it?"
[robmumble]|20:28 Rob says, "because I feel strongly like this is programming I need to unwrite or at least wrest control back from"
[way-secret]|20:29 Rob says, "for example, asking you recently 1) if you'd like to ever visit me here again, and 2) if you'd be interested in buying an ipad, caused me great after-the-fact anxiety"
[way-secret]|20:29 Rob says, "but I did it anyway because both things seemed like nice things to suggest in an unguarded moment"
[way-secret]|20:29 Rob says, "but I had to squirm a lot wondering if you'd tell me I was a weird flake or not"
[robmumble]|20:30 Ellison says, "I do that regret thing the day after anytime I play the extrovert, not just when it comes to flirting"
[robmumble]|20:30 Rob says, "I think it's almost entirely about people's recations"
[robmumble]|20:30 Rob says, "reactions"
[robmumble]|20:30 Rob says (to Ellison), "yeah, that's it"
[way-secret]|20:30 inky says, "aw man you know I'm not going to tell you that because I don't think that"
[way-secret]|20:31 Rob says, "yeah it's been very helpful how positive you've been"
[robmumble]|20:31 Ellison says, "most times, people don't even react badly to what I say or do, but the next day, I just get these ideas about this or that thing I said could be misinterpreted or seem overbearing"
[way-secret]|20:31 Rob says, "I still have the reaction but then you've been positive and then I get to think oh ok that reaction was for naught"
[robmumble]|20:32 Rob says, "there were a few incidents in my late teens early 20s where I really got bad reactions from people when I said things that I didn't think were weird until they reacted that way"
[robmumble]|20:32 Rob says, "and I'm sure a lot of this comes from those moments"
[robmumble]|20:34 Rob says, "I talk more freely on ifmud than just about anywhere, but there's still always kind of this filter factor process running"
[robmumble]|20:34 Rob says, "lately I've been pushing myself to speak unguardedly and have said all manner of crazy things"
[robmumble]|20:35 Rob says, "and it's really difficult but I think it's ultimately helping me"
[robmumble]|20:35 Rob says, "I just have to ride out these annoying anxiety attacks that take place the next day"
[robmumble]|20:36 Rob says, "well whew"
[robmumble]|20:36 Rob says, "what an upload"
[robmumble]|20:36 Rob says, "I've battered everyone into stunned silence, including myself"
[lounge]|20:38 Grocible says, "grr"
[lounge]|20:38 Grocible says, "the facebook ios app doesn't let you delete posts, it seems"
[way-secret]|20:39 Rob says, "ha ha it's Glosite with an umlaut"
[way-secret]|20:39 Rob says, "what the heck"
[lounge]|20:39 Rob says, "yeah"
[lounge]|20:39 Rob says, "the app has weird annoying limitations on functionality like that"
[lounge]|20:39 Grocible says, "oh wait"
[lounge]|20:39 Grocible says, "it does. just hidden"
[lounge]|20:39 Grocible says, "you swipe a post from one side to the other"
[way-secret]|20:39 Rob says, "11/11, that should be easy to remember"
[way-secret]|20:40 Rob says, "for any world war 1 veterans attending"
[robmumble]|20:40 Ellison says, "sorry, I was coding in another window"
[robmumble]|20:40 Ellison says, "stunned silently"
[robmumble]|20:42 Rob says, "it's ok, I'm spent after the monologue"
[robmumble]|20:42 Rob says, "I feel like mainly these days I come on ifmud and deliver a monologue instead of engaging in interactive conversation"
[robmumble]|20:42 Rob says, "but my therapist tells me I should go ahead and do this without feeling self conscious abou tit"
[robmumble]|20:42 Rob says, "also, I don't have a therapist"
[robmumble]|20:43 Ellison says, "anyhow, I think it's noble to want to express yourself more (and it's a good goal, too), but it's definitely something you have to do in moderation to avoid the inevitable backfire. actually, my favorite way to think about it is a Built To Spill album title."
[way-secret]|20:43 Rob says, "logged in, read Our Story, hurrah"
[way-secret]|20:43 Rob says, "and she is cute isn't she"
[way-secret]|20:44 inky says, "that's what I said!"
[way-secret]|20:44 Rob says, "any girl who likes to swap logic puzzles, don't let go"
[way-secret]|20:44 Rob says, "I'm still lookin"
[robmumble]|20:44 Rob says, "whose album is that"
[way-secret]|20:44 Rob says, "well I totally look forward to meeting her"
[way-secret]|20:45 Rob says, "also I'd like to meet your folks someday"
[way-secret]|20:45 Rob says, "and your sister come to think of it"
[robmumble]|20:45 Ellison says, "the title is, 'Keep It Like A Secret,' and it's kind of the way I feel about my passions. I'm happy to try to share my enthusiasm for things with the world, but I feel you have to keep some of that passion to yourself so you can constantly stoke that flame. plus, nobody will ever quite appreciate that passion as much as you, so it's kind of like, sharing without full sharing."
[robmumble]|20:45 Ellison says, "Built to Spill"
[way-secret]|20:45 Rob says, "what's seattle weather like in early november"
[way-secret]|20:46 inky says, "I was going to say "not that cold" but I guess it'll be cold compared to austin"
[robmumble]|20:46 Rob says, "people never seem to be quite as much into what I'm into as I am"
[way-secret]|20:46 Rob asks, "50s? 40s? 30s?"
[way-secret]|20:46 inky says, "I think I usually wear a light jacket and a sweatshirt"
[way-secret]|20:46 Rob says, "oh ok"
[way-secret]|20:47 Rob says, "well it's probably pretty likely I will figure out how to be there by then, or by september or october"
[way-secret]|20:47 inky says, "that would be swell"
[way-secret]|20:47 Rob says, "worse comes to worse (worst?) I can use my october birthday money to get there"
[way-secret]|20:48 Rob says, "I feel strongly like I shouldn't miss it"
[robmumble]|20:48 Ellison says, "yeah, and this is kind of a way to avoid that disappointment. plus, then you can kind of genuinely appreciate when people are drawn to your passions just by the light of your own enthusiasm."
[way-secret]|20:48 inky says, "yeah, it would really mean a lot to me if you could make it"
[way-secret]|20:48 Rob says, "ok then"
[way-secret]|20:48 Rob says, "I will figure it out"
[way-secret]|20:48 inky says, "I'm sure this goes without saying but if it does come down to a money issue, let me know and we will find a way to make it happen"
[way-secret]|20:49 Rob says, "yeah no not this time"
[robmumble]|20:49 Ellison says, "anyhow, it's strange, because in some ways, for all of the nice things I have going on in my life, I am still kind of a miserable fellow, but I still feel pretty good about this philosophy."
[way-secret]|20:49 Rob says, "the trick is where I bunk down there for the weekend because you'll be busy and married"
[way-secret]|20:50 Rob says, "if you have any suggestions pass em on"
[way-secret]|20:51 inky says, "well, lpsmith and mamster and Jacqueline and Emily are all in town"
[robmumble]|20:51 Rob says, "miserable isn't good"
[way-secret]|20:51 inky says, "so it is probably easiest to see if one of them will have crash space"
[robmumble]|20:51 Rob says, "though I know what you mean"
[way-secret]|20:51 Rob says, "hmmm yeah I guess in order I'd check with lpsmith then jacq&maga then emily then mamster"
[way-secret]|20:52 Rob says, "but I could probably also get a hotel room somewhere without breaking the bank"
[robmumble]|20:53 boucher asks, "You know those romantic comedy movies where someone takes a chance at looking like a fool, and does, but it's okay because sometimes it turns out that girls like a bumbling guy who is clearly not good at these sorts of things?"
[lounge]|20:53 Marvin buggers off.
[robmumble]|20:53 boucher says, "There is truth behind this."
[robmumble]|20:54 boucher says, "If you're too slick and too confident, often you can scare people off.  They'll run off instead thinking, 'There's no way I could ever be likable around someone that smooth and cool.'"
[robmumble]|20:54 boucher says, "So put her at her ease.  Be an awkward dork."
[robmumble]|20:55 K-Y says, "I keep thinking about making a channel for this"
[robmumble]|20:55 K-Y says, "for workshopping"
[way-secret]|20:56 Rob says (to boucher), "I like that"
[robmumble]|20:56 Rob says (to boucher), "I like that"
[robmumble]|20:56 boucher says, "And if it happens that she judges you harshly and thinks you're a horribly awkward dork...would you really want to get to know someone so judgmental anyhow?  Screw her, she's a stuck-up bitch.  Wait...that's being judgmental.  Ah well, whatever."
[robmumble]|20:57 Rob says, "I think part of what cycled through my mind really fast in the four seconds I stared stupidly at her was wondering, 'is this going to sound too slick and confident to say to her?'"
[robmumble]|20:57 Rob says, "heh yeah that's it"
[robmumble]|20:57 K-Y says, "people like us think too much in those moments"
[robmumble]|20:57 Rob says, "yeha"
[robmumble]|20:58 boucher says, "You could always have cleverly thought fast and spilled coffee on yourself if you thought you were in danger of being too cool."
[robmumble]|20:58 Rob says, "my mind was racing and overclocking and then for all my brainpower I just said 'nope'"
[robmumble]|20:58 Rob says, "which is why a few hours later I'm all aw man what the heck"
[robmumble]|20:58 K-Y says, "this is the classic thing that they devise expensive seminars for dealing with"
[robmumble]|20:58 boucher says, "'No...being too awesome...must find way to look foolish!'"
[robmumble]|20:58 Rob says, "heh! yes"
[robmumble]|20:59 Rob says, "oh man, sigh"
[robmumble]|21:00 Rob says, "kind of where I am right now is that all signs are pointing that the way out (of whatever it is I'm in) are to push past this no matter how icky it feels in the short term"
[robmumble]|21:00 Rob says, "because older-Rob will thank me for working on it"
[robmumble]|21:01 Rob says, "but eccch it's not pleasant sometimes these days"
[robmumble]|21:01 boucher says, "I know this is going to make things worse...but my impression of you, if I were just learning about you and were female...or I guess if I were just learning about you period is...okay, well, especiaally if this is a certain kind of cafe and all...they get a lot of people who probably fancy themselves quite the 'artiste'"
[robmumble]|21:01 Rob says, "hee hee"
[robmumble]|21:02 Rob says, "yep and unfortunately that's exactly right"
[robmumble]|21:02 boucher says, "So the question is, are you the kind of person who is clever and gentle and humble, or are you the douche who is always working on the next great novel or film or something."
[robmumble]|21:02 Rob says, "I sometimes tend to think I can actually back this up but there is some truth to this"
[robmumble]|21:02 Rob says, "hm except I would self tag myself as the former not the latter"
[robmumble]|21:03 boucher says, "Of course...but the intent is to share what you're passionate about without coming off as someone who thinks himself too cool for his peers"
[robmumble]|21:03 Rob says, "however I think I possess a great anxiety or fear that I'm the latter, or that I will come across as the latter, before it is possible to learn that I'm actually the fortmer"
[robmumble]|21:03 Rob says, "well you're very insightful today boucher"
[robmumble]|21:04 boucher says, "Of course.  After all, I'm too cool to hang out with you losers."
[robmumble]|21:04 Rob says, "naturally"
[lounge]|21:04 Rob says, "ok due to strange forces it's actually my bedtime now"
[lounge]|21:04 Rob says, "so I will salute and say so long for now"
[lounge]|21:05 Fang is a veritable smorgasbord of visual variables.
[lounge]|21:05 Rob says, "also gzzzzzZz"
[lounge]|21:05 Rob moseys right on out.
[robmumble]|21:05 boucher says, "Actually, I keep bragging about ifMUD to others like I'm the kid who gets to be invited backstage."
[robmumble]|21:06 boucher says, "It's some exclusive club of talented people, and I feel like just a hanger-on.  But a very privileged one."
[robmumble]|21:12 (from Allen) boucher says, "It's like everyone here has a Klout Score of at least 55 but I only have a 38."
[robmumble]|21:12 boucher says, "Man, I'm only just cool (or douchy) enough to get that joke."
[facepalm]|21:13 * zaphod has joined the channel.
[robmumble]|21:13 Allen says, "I wouldn't have got it before Gunther's #facepalm comment a few hours ago"
[robmumble]|21:14 boucher says, "I am so not a social networker.  I mostly only have accounts because others want me to have them."
[jendoodle]|21:14 * zaphod has joined the channel.
[robmumble]|21:14 Allen says, "I've made 4 tweets in my life, I think. I kinda feel like I've betrayed my principles"
[robmumble]|21:15 boucher says, "I don't even have a professional reputation to care about, which is why I'm not on LinkedIn, even though I don't harshly judge those who feel they must do so for their careers."
[robmumble]|21:15 Allen says, "my first tweet was a link to a study that said the median number of tweets made by all twitter users was nearly exactly "1""
[robmumble]|21:15 inky says, "hee hee"
[robmumble]|21:16 boucher says, "I only have a Facebook account because I wanted to play Scrabble with people here.  I only have a G+ account because...I think Gunther invited me or something, and why not...Google already owns my soul."
[robmumble]|21:18 Allen says, "I've found my linked in account occasionally handy. Like, I needed to contact our domain admins in 3 scandinavian offices when we changed our netblock, but my inquiries didn't go anywhere, and they're not in the US exchange email lists"
[robmumble]|21:18 * zaphod has joined the channel.
[robmumble]|21:19 boucher says, "I do what I must to interact with the people I want to interact with, but I don't do it to improve my standing or visibility or to improve my Gamerscore or to get more followers or to get more YouTube views or to be a more effective entrepreneur or to get a lower Erd:os number"
[lounge]|21:19 jenrexrode has entered the lounge. [ Your score has gone up by 10 points ]
[lounge]|21:19 jenrexrode says, "re"
[robmumble]|21:19 boucher says, "Though the last is at least geekily obscure enough I might."
[robmumble]|21:19 Allen says, "fortunately, they were only 2 connections away in linkedin, so I could email the two of them there instead of having to sign up for a linkedin official account which absurdly costs $80 a year"
[robmumble]|21:19 boucher says, "But probably not worth the effort."
[robmumble]|21:20 Allen says, "also, I've written recommendations for past 'orkers that I respected"
[robmumble]|21:20 boucher says, "This is something serendipitous that actually is something kinda cool"
[robmumble]|21:21 boucher says, "Because I'm not really an imposing or threatening person, people look out for me"
[wtf]|21:21 Jacqueline says, "Um... my battery just went from 0% to 2% to 100% in about five minutes.  I call bullshit."
[robmumble]|21:21 boucher says, "Throughout my life, if there was something political that might affect me, people often came up to me to warn me."
[wtf]|21:21 Allen says, "whoah, it must use the same algorithm as the "copying files" in Windows!"
[wtf]|21:22 Jacqueline says, "heehee"
[robmumble]|21:22 boucher says, "And if there was something kind to be said, an opportunity to be extended, people often spoke up and mentioned me without my solicitation."
[wtf]|21:22 Allen says, "copying that folder will take 5 seconds no 30 seconds no 39 hours no 10 minutes"
[wtf]|21:22 Jacqueline says, "Oh, okay.  Now it's back to 4%.  I'm back in Kansas."
[robmumble]|21:22 boucher says, "So I guess I'm generally a likable guy who is seen as innocent and worthy of respect and protection by others."
[robmumble]|21:23 Ellison says, "#belated I also have been thankful for the kind of intelligent, talented people I have met on here. I used to also feel like a big hanger-on, but now that I concentrate more on doing my own thing, it's not as bad."
[robmumble]|21:23 boucher says, "I also like to think I don't abuse the kindnesses of my friends."
[robmumble]|21:24 boucher says, "So they're more willing to give me that benefit."
[robmumble]|21:25 Allen says, "ok, inspired by this conversation, I went and checked facebook for the first time in a month. And I found that a childhood best friend has named his daughter "Kadyn". My faith in the human race is destroyed"
[robmumble]|21:25 jenrexrode exclaims (at everyone), "group hug!"
[robmumble]|21:25 jenrexrode says (to Allen), "better than Nevaeh"
[TMI]|21:26 Jacqueline reads the topic for the channel, smirks.  "Is that from some AIF game?"
[TMI]|21:26 inky says, "ha ha"
[lounge]|21:27 Fang is told of the death of Christ, and becomes so angry that the brain bursts from his head, and he dies. The blood from the wound baptises him as a Christian, and his soul goes to heaven.
[DrawSomething]|21:28 jenrexrode asks, "why do I always choose to draw specific cars for vw?"
[lounge]|21:28 Lucea had the olive complexion.
[lounge]|21:28 Lucea says, "re"
[DrawSomething]|21:28 jenrexrode says, "and I always choose red, and they take forever"
[lounge]|21:28 jenrexrode says, "reya"
[apropos-of-nothing]|21:28 inky | I changed your name in my phone to Kevin Federline just in case I forget that you're a huge douchebag.
[apropos-of-nothing]|21:29 jenrexrode says, "haha"
[lounge]|21:29 Rob comes right on in.
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Current time: Saturday,  7 Jul 2012, 09:29:21 PM EDT
To check your mail, just type "mail". This will list all the messages
in your mailbox. To read a specific message, type "mail <#>",
where <#> is the number of the message.
To delete a message from your mailbox, type "mail delete = <#>",
where <#> is the number of the message. Please delete mail that you
no longer need. You may delete all your mail at once with "mail
delete = all". Deleting a message just flags it as deleted; it will be
automatically purged when you log out (see "help noautopurge") or when
you type "mail purge". To undelete a message you have accidentally
flagged as deleted, type "mail undelete = number" to undelete that
message. Note that this can't recover messages that have been
purged. To mark messages as unread, you can do "mail unread 3". 
To check if you have mail, do "mail check" or "mail check = quiet".
To send mail to another player, type "mail Player = Subject : 
Message". Send mail to multiple recipients by separating them with
commas or spaces. 
To search your messages for ones with a specific string, do 
"mail search = text".
Mail messages are implemented very similar to the bulletin board, and
looking at "help bb" and its commands may be useful. In particular,
the information in "help bb_range" also applies directly to mail
messages. 
Examples:
mail
mail 2
mail delete = 2
mail delete = all
mail Jota = Mudmail : I love the new mail program you wrote!
mail thumper, inky, schep = Hi : What's up?
mail unread = 3         (mark everything from message 3 on as unread)
mail check = quiet      (check if you have mail, printing no message if not)
mail search = monkey    (list all messages containing 'monkey')
The prefix 'jacq' is ambiguous.
Mail not sent.
[DrawSomething] jenrexrode says, "hm, maybe this next one I should draw Kevin Federline minus douche"
[DrawSomething] jenrexrode says, "that would be hard, because it would make it seem like there was nothing left"
Mail sent to Jacqueline.
Mail sent to maga.
[DrawSomething] jenrexrode cheats and resets, I've actually drawn all these for him before
[DrawSomething] jenrexrode says, "oops, I dropped my phone and accidentally bought new words"
[DrawSomething] inky says, "ha ha"
[DrawSomething] jenrexrode says, "and they're all british slang words, argh"
Jacqueline whispers, "We have easy space for one, and maga has agreed that this is true.  If you are okay with a fold-out couch scenario, you may stay here."
Mail sent to inky.
You whisper "that would be totally incredibly great" to Jacqueline.
Jacqueline whispers, "You were the first to ask.  Hooray!  A house guest is you."
You whisper "hooray, thanks" to Jacqueline.
[way-secret] Rob says, "post-script to mail: jacq&maga have invited me to crash there"
Jacqueline whispers, "You're welcome.   :)"
You whisper "look forward hopefully to seeing you both" to Jacqueline.
Jacqueline whispers, "Yeah, short of something really unforeseen, we hope to attend as well.  We can rent a car and drive down together.  ZipCar or something."
You whisper "that'd be fun" to Jacqueline.
Jacqueline whispers, "Yes!  It will be."
Rob says, "ok gotta go again"
Rob heads right on out.
</Rob> Find release from your cares. have a good time.
Seeya later.