Logfile from ifmud. ************************************************************************ ** ** ** Welcome to ifMUD! ** ** ** ************************************************************************ FAQ: http://www.allthingsjacq.com/ifMUDfaq/ IP: 66.114.68.227 MONKEY: Ook. If you... have an account Type "connect name password" to log in need an account Go to http://ifmud.port4000.com:4001/ and apply are just visiting Type "connect guest guest" to login as Guest want to see who's on Type "who" for a list of players online have problems Email markm - mark.musante@gmail.com TYPE connect, who, or quit: Login Succeeded ifMUD An interactive real time social network chat bulletin board quotebook url database with a parrot bot Copyright 1997-2007 by Loungent Technologies, a wholly owned subsidiary of rec.[arts|games].int-fiction; All rights reserved. Release 4 / Serial number 990908 / perlMUD v2.1z "The characters were mostly of the cardboard cutout variety. I wanted to punch everyone except the one Scottish guy." --Jearl NOTE: Whenever a fix or enhancement is in place, it will be announced on the channel '#mud-updates'. OTHER NOTE: There is a mailing list where people can say things like "hey, the mud's down, what's up with that?" In fact, since this is the only thing the list is used for, you should join it if you are interested in this subject. To join, go to http://groups.google.com/group/ifmud/ or talk to Steve. Robinson Manor A gracious, welcoming, airy space. Music drifts in from unseen speakers. A picture window on the southern wall provides a pleasant source of light and a sense of openness. You can see: teleporter, a picture window, comfy sofa, Jeopardy podium, buzzer1, buzzer2, buzzer3, Jota greets Rob, fake_Robb_Sherwin Visible Exits: west, east There is no other option for the world than to invade America and dismantle the lasers, send them through a time portal, and repurpose them as vibrators for dinosaurs. I?ve invented much of this." No new channels have been created since your last check. Adventurer's Lounge Candles on the wood-panelled walls create a comfortably dark atmosphere. Hand-drawn maps are taped to nearly every surface -- the walls, the ceiling, the trophy case in the corner. Seating is plentiful. A small storage closet is to the north. You can see: new laundry list, Birthday Calendar, magic laundry list, blank banner, Even Newer World Map, charset sampler, Automeeter, TheMasterTheorem player names, time zones, MUD Client Wish List, battle.net battletags, madlibs, Anything Finder, Sarcasm Detector Players: Alex, markm, Touchy, Jon, Psmith, vimes, Jearl, small, McMartin, DorianX, Ryan, lpsmith, zaphod, Matthew, Bishop, GDorn, Allen, Dave, Jacqueline, Iain, Lionheart, annabianca, ghira, marc, vaporware, jpt, Marktwo, Jota, Lucea, borowski, two-star, olethros, Gunther, boucher, Guenni, Hjalfi, Fang Visible Exits: north, west, southwest, southeast, up, east Rob comes right on in. Recapping 164 of 3521 lines from recent channels: [news]/05:22 ghira says, "kind hearts and coronets, I hear" [news]|05:22 Gunther says, "no, there is no hidden Will Smith ending, ghira." [news]|05:23 ghira says, "no, I read somewhere there is a version where you see someone recovering the document from his cell" [news]|05:25 Hjalfi says, "I must dig that film out. It's awesome." [news]|05:25 nothings says, "that was a hayes code thing or something" [lounge]|05:26 Fang is a veritable smorgasbord of visual variables. [books]|05:28 Fang says, "well, you don't have to consume the odysseus story in real time, you know" [books]|05:29 Gunther says, "zomg" [books]|05:29 Gunther says, "I read both in the translation by Fagles" [books]|05:30 Gunther says, "and the Iliad is just way more action-packed (and unintentionally hilarious)" [books]|05:30 Fang says, "honestly I liked the Odyssey more, since I felt more invested in the characters" [books]|05:30 Fang says, "while in the Illiad I wished that most of the characters would fucking just die already" [books]|05:30 Gunther says, "it has a more manageable cast of characters, yeah, and also there's no chapter where they muster 144,000 different armies" [books]|05:31 Gunther says, "but it has all the awesome aristeiae, Zeus going batshit, and lots of great "fuck you, you little baby" speeches" [books]|05:33 Fang says, "Zeus goes batshit all the time" [books]|05:34 Fang says, "another factor is that maybe that Troy movie is colouring my view of it" [books]|05:35 marc says, "in that it's utter shit" [books]|05:35 marc asks, "?" [books]|05:35 Fang says, "yes" [lounge]|05:36 nothings goes home. [news]|05:36 boucher says, "I am reminded of The Simpsons, where they showed a version of Casablanca specially edited for seniors." [lounge]|05:37 Felix blinks sleepily. [news]|05:37 boucher says, "'Frankly my dear...*obvious splice and bad voice replacement*...I love you, let's get remarried!'" [news]|05:38 boucher says, "Hans Moleman asks, 'Didn't that film used to have a war in it?' Orderlies rush in and drag him off. 'Okay, you've been warned before....'" [news]|05:38 boucher says, "Er, Gone with the Wind" [news]|05:38 boucher says, "What crack am I on" [news]|05:39 Fang says, "they should make farewell to arms into a CYOA" [news]|05:39 boucher says, "Oh, right...there was another Simpsons gag about alternate endings to Casablanca." [news]|05:40 boucher says, "Involving pulling machineguns from pianos and such" [news]|05:40 boucher says, "The many arms of Farewell to Arms" [movie]|05:40 marc says, "oh for god's sake," [movie]|05:40 marc | Spider-Man reboot to be a trilogy [movie]|05:40 marc says, "enough of the crap already" [news]|05:41 Fang says, "okay, reading this synopsis... I realise I haven't actually read a Farewell to Arms" [news]|05:41 Fang says, "I must have been thinking of 'All Quiet on the western front'" [movie]|05:42 boucher asks, "But...if they can't keep finding ways to turn comic books into movies, they'll have to...I don't know.... Iiii-invent new story...lines? No, that doesn't make sense, does it?" [movie]|05:43 Fang says, "I want to know more about the cranes" [movie]|05:44 Fang says, "the next spiderman film could be all about crane-man" [news]|05:44 boucher says, "It was certainly better than the more minefield-centric tale, 'A Farewell to Legs'" [movie]|05:44 Fang says, "and his superpower of ensuring cranes are at the right place at the right time" [movie]|05:46 boucher says, "Crane-man, accidentally brought as an infant by a crane instead of by a stork. That's...about it, really. He's sort of fixated on it. Poor guy." [lounge]|05:50 Hjalfi says, "Grr server reboot grr." [movie]|05:51 marc says, "heh" [movie]|05:52 marc says, "i guess the one upside of this film is that this garfield guy (whoever he is) might be less awful than macguire" [lounge]|05:52 Felix nods. :( [lounge]|06:00 Felix says, "Anyway, nap time." [lounge]|06:00 Felix waves. [lounge]|06:00 Felix goes home. [movie]|06:03 Fang says, "I liked macguire :(" [austria]|06:10 boucher says, "Was telling a friend about the Krampus tradition, of which he was unaware." [austria]|06:11 boucher says, "I put it succinctly thus: The parades that include this character are often some strange mix of Carnival, Christmas, and a Gwar concert." [austria]|06:12 boucher says, "Also: There is an element of halloween to it. Except instead of candy, people are given booze." [austria]|06:17 Gunther says, "then hit other people" [research]|06:27 Fang says, "hmm, okay, I guess I should chase up these guys about my paper submission" [research]|06:27 Fang says, "how does this sound:" [research]|06:27 Fang | I'm just emailing to enquire about the progress of this submission from November last year. I have not heard any updates on this since the initial confirmation of receipt, so I would like to find out if there has been any updates on its status? [research]|06:27 Fang asks, "too short? or okay?" [startrek]|06:29 Hjalfi says, "Collector pays 45000 UKP for the _Galileo_ shuttle, now kinda rusty: http://www.kikoauctions.com/?nav=auctions&details=2030 " [research]|06:30 boucher says, "I'm not in academia, but perhaps add, 'You think I'm mad, don't you? Well, they all said I was mad. I'll show them who's mad. I'll show you all! Muahahaha!'" [research]|06:30 marc says, "ha ha" [research]|06:31 Fang says, "bah, this seems short and to the point" [research]|06:31 marc says, "yeah, seems fine" [research]|06:31 Fang says, "gogo email" [research]|06:31 marc says, "maybe s/updates/changes" [research]|06:31 marc says, "(second one)" [research]|06:31 marc says, "updates on -> changes in" [research]|06:32 Fang says, "I can probably ramp up the passive aggressiveness in future mailings" [research]|06:32 boucher says, "My addendum works even better if your paper was something like: A Novel Method For Accelerating Biopolymer Coagulation or something very mundange." [research]|06:32 marc says, "next e-mail you should suggest they license fedex's package tracking system" [research]|06:32 boucher says, "mundane*" [research]|06:33 Fang says (to boucher), "wasn't that spiderman's thesis" [research]|06:33 marc says, "Mundange: A phenomenological investigation of the rhyming with orange" [startrek]|06:36 boucher says, "I like that it's on a boat trailer" [startrek]|06:36 boucher says, "As if to suggest it's seaworthy." [lounge]|06:36 Iain wakes. [lounge]|06:36 Iain says, "Morning." [startrek]|06:37 Gunther says, "fuck trees, I'm climbing shuttles, motherfucker" [videogames]|06:38 Gunther says, "what. http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/adept/jetpack-2-by-the-creator-of-the-original-jetpack " [programming]|06:38 Iain says, "I wrote a programming language accidentally." [programming]|06:38 Iain says, "Well, a DSL." [programming]|06:38 Gunther asks, "at this point who hasn't?" [programming]|06:39 Iain says, "Totally" [programming]|06:39 Gunther says, "I'm counting XSD/DTD" [programming]|06:39 Hjalfi asks, "Is it Turing complete?" [programming]|06:39 Iain says, "Sure, I'll buy that." [programming]|06:39 Iain says, "In fact I could write an XSD for this!!" [programming]|06:39 Gunther says, "I generate my XSDs from a sample XML then tune them" [programming]|06:39 Iain says (to Hjalfi), "Hmmmmmmmm that's actually a good question." [programming]|06:39 Iain says, "This is for audio filters." [programming]|06:40 Iain says, "I don't have unbounded recursion but I do have a loopback operator." [programming]|06:40 Gunther says (to Hjalfi), "" [programming]|06:40 Gunther says, "...yup" [programming]|06:40 Hjalfi asks, "What does it compile into?" [programming]|06:40 Iain asks, "Compile?" [programming]|06:40 Hjalfi asks, "*Interpreted* audio filters?" [programming]|06:41 Iain says, "I said I wrote it, I didn't say I'd *written* it." [programming]|06:41 Gunther says (to Hjalfi), "never heard of audio graphs, have you" [videogames]|06:41 boucher says, "'I tried to get funding from my daughter, but as you can see, she's a horse, and can't really support me while I work full-time on my videogame. Can you help?'" [programming]|06:41 Iain says, "I think I'll just compile into C." [programming]|06:42 Hjalfi says (to Gunther), "Pfft, that's not a filter. Unless you're using DSP instructions, you might as well just be a web designer." [tangent]|06:44 Iain says, "Huh, Sublime Text is failing me." [tangent]|06:44 Iain says, "'Find' isn't finding and I can't find out why." [tangent]|06:44 Gunther says, "of course not" [tangent]|06:45 Gunther asks, "is wrap off, regex on/off, case sensitivity on/off?" [tangent]|06:45 Iain says, "If you don't work as well as gedit I don't think I'd really call that Sublime." [tangent]|06:45 Iain says, "Wrap is on, everything else off, shouldn't matter as I typed it in the correct case anyway." [tangent]|06:46 Iain says, "...curious. It isn't the same file. Even though it says it is." [tangent]|06:47 Iain says, "ARRRRrarrgh bah" [tangent]|06:47 Iain says, "render_view_host_impl.cc in one window, render_widget_host_impl.cc in another" [tangent]|06:47 Iain says, "Goddamn Chromium" [tangent]|06:48 Iain says, "My own fault really because I wrote 'RenderViewHostImpl' in my notes but it should have been Widget." [tangent]|06:48 Gunther says, "install the pebkac plugin" [google]|06:52 Gunther says, "Google's finally shitcanning iGoogle in 11/2013" [google]|06:53 Gunther says, "I'm surprised it survived this long" [google]|06:53 marc says, "is that the yahoo-immitation thing with the widgets and the dragging and the I Forgot That Existed" [google]|06:53 Iain says, "Yep" [google]|06:53 Gunther says, "yes" [google]|06:53 Gunther says, "aka Google What The Fuck" [google]|06:53 marc asks, "presumably apple sued them re: the name?" [google]|06:53 Iain says, "I've heard mixed things about that. 'Good!' 'What's iGoogle?' and 'noooo! what can I use instead?'" [google]|06:53 marc says, "heh" [google]|06:53 Iain says, "I don't use it myself but I don't know of a good alternative." [google]|06:54 Gunther says, "I do" [google]|06:54 Iain asks, "What is it?" [google]|06:54 Gunther says, "if you like it, hit yourself with a brick until you come to your senses." [google]|06:54 marc asks, "it's for weather widgets and stock tickers, etc?" [google]|06:54 Iain says, "Some people like to have a home page with useful stuff on it. It's like having a bunch of widgets on your phone." [google]|06:54 Gunther says, "that's what the Windows sidebar is for" [google]|06:54 marc says, "or osx dashboard (aka. the thing you accidentally switch to occasionally having forgotten it existed)" [google]|06:55 marc says, "the mac dashboard seems silly since it's completely decoupled from the main desktop" [google]|06:55 marc says, "so either you have a functioning desktop environment OR set of widgets" [google]|06:57 Iain says, "Yeah." [google]|06:57 Iain says, "The browser home page seems a pretty reasonable place for this kind of thing." [food]|06:59 Gunther says, "#"food" some cuntwaffles are suing against the prohibition of foie gras" [apropos-of-nothing]|07:00 Gunther says, "huh, interview with Austria's former head of Scientology" [apropos-of-nothing]|07:00 Gunther says, "now a fierce critic" [apropos-of-nothing]|07:00 marc asks, "same old stuff?" [apropos-of-nothing]|07:00 Gunther says, ""What does Scientology have to do with religion?" "Tax free"" [apropos-of-nothing]|07:01 Gunther says, "yeah. totalitarian psycho cult, total control, etc" [apropos-of-nothing]|07:02 Gunther says, "they also ask him about Xenu" [apropos-of-nothing]|07:02 Gunther says, ""I wasn't OT III. My wife was but wasn't allowed to tell me"" [apropos-of-nothing]|07:02 Gunther says, "how can anyone rational... I just don't get it" [apropos-of-nothing]|07:05 ghira says, "oh come on it's not really any more bonkers than saying separate prayers over the peanut in the middle of an M&M and the chocolate coating, or transubstantiation. I know I'll get jota or dorianx or someone complaining, but really" [apropos-of-nothing]|07:07 Iain says, "A religion that explicitly keeps secrets from its followers is pretty unusual." [apropos-of-nothing]|07:07 Hjalfi says (to Iain), "They nearly *all* do that." [apropos-of-nothing]|07:07 boucher says, "In modern times." [apropos-of-nothing]|07:07 Iain says, "Like there are always rumours about crazy secret stuff in the vaults of the Vatican, but I don't think that's really true. Or if it is true, the fact that it's true is secret!" [apropos-of-nothing]|07:08 Hjalfi says, "The Christian holy book was deliberately written in a language which the followers couldn't read, to allow the priests to control access to it." [apropos-of-nothing]|07:08 boucher says, "But there was a time when the line between clergy and laity was very clearly drawn." [apropos-of-nothing]|07:08 boucher says, "timing" [apropos-of-nothing]|07:08 Iain says, "Yeah, good point." [apropos-of-nothing]|07:08 ghira asks, "aren't there buddhist places where you don't get to see inside the magic bell on the top floor until you've been there for 30 years or something?" [apropos-of-nothing]|07:08 Iain says, "But now Catholic services are in the local language." [apropos-of-nothing]|07:09 boucher says, "Scientology's still young. Give it time" [apropos-of-nothing]|07:09 Iain says, "And even 200 years ago, I don't think the Catholic church would have tried to prevent anyone learning Latin, or kept the bible secret." [apropos-of-nothing]|07:09 Hjalfi says, "There are still major Christian sects where there are special bits of churches that you're not allowed into unless you're a priest. (Greek Orthodox? Maybe?)" [apropos-of-nothing]|07:09 Iain says, "Hmm, and many golf clubs have a members-only bar." [apropos-of-nothing]|07:09 Iain says, "Clearly golf is a dangerous religion!" [apropos-of-nothing]|07:09 boucher says, "Indeed, isn't there a 'reformed' schismatic group of former Scientologists who have protested exactly that sort of thing" [apropos-of-nothing]|07:10 Hjalfi | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyndale_Bible [apropos-of-nothing]|07:10 boucher says, "I'm not about to compare them to Martin Luther or anything, but...things change, beliefs evolve." [apropos-of-nothing]|07:11 Iain says, "If you're saying Scientology is no worse than Christianity was a few centuries ago... sure, I'll buy that." [apropos-of-nothing]|07:12 marc says, "..." [lounge]|07:12 Rob comes right on in. Recapped 164 of 3521 lines from recent channels. Current time: Friday, 6 Jul 2012, 07:12:29 AM EDT There are 2 new messages on #alt/obits. There is one new message on #misc/politics/politics. Rob says, "bhlurghl" #733 [misc/politics/politics] From: inky Date: 04-Jul-12 14:05 Subject: american values over time http://www.people-press.org/values-questions/ #454 [alt/obits] From: Gunther Date: 05-Jul-12 05:24 Subject: Jim Drake (83) Inventor of the modern surfboard and, in extension, co-inventor of windsurfing #455 [alt/obits] From: marc Date: 05-Jul-12 13:57 Subject: James Grout (84) Superintendent Strange in Inspector Morse ~ http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-18720117 ghira says, "yarg" Rob says, "hallo ghira" Iain says, "It's Rob!" Rob says, "hey Iain" Iain says, "Hello" Rob says, "unfortunately I won't be at the #gathering even though I started the channel for it" [apropos-of-nothing] boucher asks, "Have we ever had MUDders who were close to Scientologists?" marc says, ".rR.oO.bB" Iain says, "Aw" [apropos-of-nothing] boucher says, "I would assume, were they members themselves, they'd have left long ago" Iain asks (of Rob), "Did you do that writers' retreat thing you were talking about?" Rob says, "all my travel allowance is going to my cousin's wedding in august" Lucea is gonna get back baby bad balls to you, love, cretin. Lucea has disconnected. [apropos-of-nothing] boucher says, "But I seem to recall someone having a...not close, but distant relation who was a member" Rob says, "nobody ever solidly responded about that, though it remains an idea I'd like to see through eventually" Rob says, "it just seems like such a good idea that I never drop the last bit of optimism about it" Rob says, "truthfully, nobody responded to it at all" Iain says, "I like the idea but it would be a lot of hassle for me to get there, which kind of misses the point." Rob says, "which might have something to do with it not happening" Rob says, "yeah it has to kind of work for some escape velocity number of people" Rob says, "but I put the idea out there, at least, as my bit" Rob says, "maybe eventually someone more responsible like emily or dfan or gunther or ghira will make it work" Rob says, "I'm just the idea guy, not the implementation and organization guy" Rob says, "we must all admit" Gunther calls CIA black cells to kidnap Rob and extradite him to Vienna Rob says, "personally I'm hoping for a trip to britain and a bit of the continent" [tennis] marc says, "federer-djokovic starts in 40 mins" Rob says, "but I need three solid reasons to go, and I've been faffing around with one or two at a time for years" [tennis] marc says, "(allegedly)" Rob says, "an IF writing retreat would be a good solid reason to go" Rob says, "could be lovely" Rob says, "but I need more rocket propulsion" Rob says, "like, some conference in europe wants me to give a talk" Rob says, "and then, like, a book or movie to promote" Iain says, "Clearly it should be here: monkeyisland.co.uk" Rob says, "I've been waiting for this conjunction for at least ten years, very patiently" Rob says, "and it feels like it's about time I got to go and have this trip" Gunther says, "take life by the balls and squeeze until they crunch" Rob says, "but I'm still waiting for all those three things to happen" Rob says, "yeah I'm not a ball squeezer kind of guy" Rob says, "just fundamentally" Rob says, "I'm about honest means" Rob says, "like, I could have at any point the past twenty years squeezed my parents' balls and had them buy me a trip to all the visits in Europe I want to make, but I decided this would be approbrious, so I did not do it, out of principle" Gunther says, "no, no, your own life" Gunther says, "make stuff happen" Rob says, "I've heard that before, I debate about it" Gunther says, "not manipulate others" Rob says, "and this is what I'm making happen in my life" Gunther says, "but stuff is not going to happen for you if you wait" Rob says, "stuff is happening every day" Gunther says, "but that's usually Nigerian princes"