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ifMUD
An interactive real time social network chat bulletin board
quotebook url database with a parrot bot
Copyright 1997-2007 by Loungent Technologies, a wholly owned subsidiary of
rec.[arts|games].int-fiction; All rights reserved.
Release 4 / Serial number 990908 / perlMUD v2.1z
    "The characters were mostly of the cardboard cutout variety.
    I wanted to punch everyone except the one Scottish guy."
         --Jearl
  NOTE: Whenever a fix or enhancement is in place, it will be announced
  on the channel '#mud-updates'.
  OTHER NOTE: There is a mailing list where people can say things like
  "hey, the mud's down, what's up with that?" In fact, since this is
  the only thing the list is used for, you should join it if you are
  interested in this subject. To join, go to
    http://groups.google.com/group/ifmud/
  or talk to Steve.
Robinson Manor
A gracious, welcoming, airy space. Music drifts in from unseen speakers. A picture window on the southern wall provides a pleasant source of light and a sense of openness.
You can see: teleporter, a picture window, comfy sofa, Jeopardy podium, buzzer1, buzzer2, buzzer3, Jota greets Rob
Visible Exits: west, east
<Rob> So you're like, "Wow, this book comes with an onion!"
No new channels have been created since your last check.
Adventurer's Lounge
Candles on the wood-panelled walls create a comfortably dark atmosphere. Hand-drawn maps are taped to nearly every surface -- the walls, the ceiling, the trophy case in the corner. Seating is plentiful. A small storage closet is to the north.
You can see: new laundry list, Birthday Calendar, magic laundry list, blank banner, Even Newer World Map, charset sampler, Automeeter, TheMasterTheorem player names, time zones, MUD Client Wish List, battle.net battletags, madlibs, Anything Finder
Players: Alex, markm, Touchy, jpt, Jon, Bishop, marc, GDorn, Jearl, Ryan, Allen, baf, Dave, McMartin, Marktwo, annabianca, vimes, Whizzard, Doug, Psmith, lpsmith, vaporware, Hugo, ghira, DavidW, boucher, zaphod, Lionheart, Jacqueline, Recchi, Matthew, Yuri, Tale, Gunther
Visible Exits: north, west, southwest, southeast, up, east
Rob comes right on in.
Recapping 1000 of 4426 lines from recent channels:
[ollyprattle]/21:56 Gerynar asks, "how about Dots? can you eat Dots candy?"
[ollyprattle]|21:57 Olly says, "Yes.  I like gummy candy."
[lounge]|21:57 Gerynar says, "How about Crows? (licorice Dots)"
[ollyprattle]|21:58 Olly says, "Yes, those too."
[ollyprattle]|21:58 Olly says, "Sometimes I buy anise bears at my local candy shop."
[ollyprattle]|21:59 Olly says, "Or maybe these ones are licorice bears.  The anise bears were in Indiana."
[ollyprattle]|22:00 Gerynar says, "nobody in my family besides me (or my paternal grandmother) likes licorice flavored anything"
[ollyprattle]|22:01 Olly says, "Remarkable."
[ollyprattle]|22:02 Olly says, "My paternal grandmother has liked licorice all her life, but when she was a child she stopped eating it because her brother told her it was made from horse blood."
[ollyprattle]|22:02 Gerynar asks, "kids those days, huh?"
[ollyprattle]|22:03 Olly says, "Yeah."
[ollyprattle]|22:03 DavidW says, "Perhaps I should look up how Jello is made."
[ollyprattle]|22:04 Olly says, "Or perhaps not."
[English]|22:07 Olly says, "'Blancmange' derives from a phrase meaning 'white food.'"
[videogames]|22:07 K-Y says, "the Fear Itself table just reminds you of how the Fear Itself story made no sense"
[videogames]|22:07 K-Y says, "although you don't really care if a pinball table makes no sense, so that's fine"
[English]|22:07 inky says, "well sure"
[DrawSomething]|22:07 Jota says, "Grr. It's started doing this thing where I'm drawing a line, but nothing shows up on screen."
[English]|22:07 Olly says, "I know very little French."
[English]|22:08 Olly says, "I was only able to anticipate the 'white' part."
[English]|22:08 DavidW says, "'mangxi' means 'to eat' in Esperanto."
[English]|22:09 Olly says, "It seems like a humorously general description."
[lounge]|22:09 maga says, "okay, off"
[DrawSomething]|22:10 Jota says, "Until several seconds later, after I already assume it didn't take and was trying again, so I get two marks, neither of which I could actually see while I was drawing."
[English]|22:10 Jota says, "Obviously you'd never find a black person willing to touch it."
[lag]|22:10 Jota asks, "Is anyone else getting crazy lag?"
[lag]|22:10 inky says, "hmm, I don't think so"
[lag]|22:10 Olly says, "I'm not."
[lounge]|22:10 maga's studied dalliance with his venal muses is little to our taste.
[lag]|22:10 Jota says, "I think I just emerged from out the other side."
[English]|22:11 Gerynar says, "whenever I hear the word "Blancmange" all I can think of is this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1sYgknWGSA "
[ollyprattle]|22:11 Olly sings, "When you walk through a storm, hold your head up high, and don't be afraid of the dark."
[English]|22:12 Jota says, "I don't think I've ever seen one in real life."
[DrawSomething]|22:13 Jota says, "Oh, man. I think this guy must be dyslexic."
[DrawSomething]|22:13 Jota says, "He started with SPOK, to which he eventually added a Y to fill out the letter count."
[DrawSomething]|22:14 Jota says, "Then he tried SPPOK."
[DrawSomething]|22:14 Jota says, "Then he spent a bomb to get rid of some letters."
[DrawSomething]|22:14 Jota says, "Then he went for SCPOK."
[DrawSomething]|22:14 Jota says, "(Then he finally got it right.)"
[ollyprattle]|22:15 Olly says, "I don't think I have, either.  I looked it up because it was mentioned in a book I've been reading, and I didn't know what it was."
[ollyprattle]|22:15 Olly says, "ilac"
[English]|22:15 Olly says, "I don't think I have, either.  I looked it up because it was mentioned in a book I've been reading, and I didn't know what it was."
[English]|22:16 Olly says, "I've had jello with milk in it, though."
[English]|22:16 Olly says, "Perhaps that counts."
[DrawSomething]|22:17 inky says, "dang"
[English]|22:18 Olly says, "It was molded in the shape of a brain."
[lounge]|22:19 jenrexrode has entered the lounge. [ Your score has gone up by 10 points ]
[English]|22:19 Olly says, "Blancmange seems to have eggs in it."
[lounge]|22:20 Olly says, "Hello, jenrexrode."
[lounge]|22:20 jenrexrode says, "hiya"
[DrawSomething]|22:20 Jota says, "After that, I am unsure if I dare attempt 'hercules' as my next word."
[DrawSomething]|22:21 jenrexrode says, "haha"
[lounge]|22:22 Roger can destroy an entire night of adventuring just by haggling over a studded leather jerkin or a basket-hilted rapier.
[lounge]|22:22 Olly says, "Hello, Roger."
[headlines]|22:22 Roger says, "Belatedly, yeah, all that.  Thanks, other mud members, for picking up the slack."
[lounge]|22:23 Roger says, "Hello, Oily."
[lounge]|22:23 Olly says, "Heh."
[ollyprattle]|22:23 Roger says, "I think Jello is all non-animal now"
[ollyprattle]|22:23 Olly says, "Wow."
[ollyprattle]|22:24 inky says, "hmm that seems unlikely to me"
[ollyprattle]|22:24 Roger says, "I could be mistaken; I might be thinking of Kodak's photographic gelatin or something."
[ollyprattle]|22:24 Roger says, "Or otherwise confused"
[DrawSomething]|22:24 jenrexrode says, "I wouldn't draw Hercules again, unless I was feeling really energetic"
[DrawSomething]|22:25 jenrexrode | https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3225147347597&l=be7a3d3c4c
[ollyprattle]|22:25 DavidW says, "I know gelatin _can_ be made without using animals, and perhaps some Jello products are that way, but i doubt all of them are."
[ollyprattle]|22:25 inky says, "there definitely is vegetarian gelatin substitutes"
[ollyprattle]|22:25 inky says, "and kosher gelatin"
[ollyprattle]|22:25 inky says, "(which is I think just made from different animals, or different parts of the animal)"
[ollyprattle]|22:25 inky | Because the collagen is processed extensively, the final product is not categorized as a meat or animal product by the federal government. Very strict vegetarians avoid gelatin entirely, but more permissive vegetarians have no problem including JELL-O in their diets.
[ollyprattle]|22:26 Roger says, "D'oh, snopes says I'm wrong.  Whoops."
[ollyprattle]|22:26 jenrexrode says, "pink slime is thoroughly processed, too"
[ollyprattle]|22:27 Olly says (to Roger), "It comes from animals, it's just processed until it isn't an animal product any more."
[ollyprattle]|22:28 Roger says, "What if you could genetically engineer really gelatinous jellyfish"
[dinner]|22:29 jenrexrode says, "watermelon, because I had ice cream for brunch"
[ollyprattle]|22:29 Bishop says, "Jellyfish are actually too stringy to ever be really gelatinous."
[ollyprattle]|22:29 Roger says, "I've had enough of this treacherous sea"
[dinner]|22:29 (from jenrexrode) Roger says, "gee, I can't win around here"
[ollyprattle]|22:30 Bishop says, "I imagine konnyu and/or agar would make half decent vegan jello."
[ollyprattle]|22:30 Bishop says, "Er, konnyaku."
[dinner]|22:30 Roger asks, "What'd I do now?"
[dinner]|22:30 jenrexrode says, "ilac"
[dinner]|22:31 Roger says, "Oh."
[dinner]|22:31 jenrexrode says, "gettin' beat up on #olly"
[dinner]|22:31 Roger says, "It's approaching those two weeks a year up here in which people eat watermelon"
[personals]|22:32 BrenBarn says, "this chyk says one of her hobbies is 'foraging'"
[dinner]|22:32 jenrexrode asks, "fourth of july?"
[dinner]|22:32 Roger says, "1st of july, anyway"
[lounge]|22:32 Olly says, "I have to go process the eggs I bought today."
[personals]|22:32 jenrexrode says, "chomp"
[lounge]|22:32 Olly says, "Ciao, MUDsters."
[lounge]|22:32 Roger says, "Ewww"
[lounge]|22:32 Roger says, "Cheers"
[lounge]|22:32 Gerynar likes his scrambled
[lounge]|22:33 Olly says, "I'm pickling them."
[lounge]|22:33 Roger says, "Oh ho"
[lounge]|22:33 jenrexrode likes her laid
[DrawSomething]|22:33 Jota says, "My best attempt is http://www.grunk.org/temp/ds/IMG_0346.PNG "
[lounge]|22:33 Olly says, "They've finished boiling and now I have to shell them and put them in the pickle."
[lounge]|22:33 jenrexrode says, "or layed"
[DrawSomething]|22:33 Jota says, "I do not hold high hopes."
[lounge]|22:33 Olly takes a plastic hamster ball from their pocket, steps into it, and rolls away.
[dinner]|22:34 jenrexrode says, "I was so tired last night, I had to cheat and reset the program to get a word i felt like drawing"
[dinner]|22:34 jenrexrode says, "ilac"
[DrawSomething]|22:34 Roger says, "We live in hope"
[DrawSomething]|22:34 jenrexrode says, "it was giving me words like "clay" last night"
[DrawSomething]|22:34 Roger says, "I guess his tunic could be more lionesque"
[DrawSomething]|22:34 Roger says, "Aiken"
[DrawSomething]|22:35 Jota says (to jenrexrode), "That's when I'd want to draw a golem again, only to them remember that no one can identify my golems, either."
[DrawSomething]|22:35 Roger says, "Maybe some complex pottery throwing wheel"
[tangent]|22:36 Bishop says, "Huh. There's such a product as 'macaroni shirataki'? Weird."
[DrawSomething]|22:36 jenrexrode says, "yeah, I was thinking of a pottery wheel, but I was tired and couldn't design it"
[DrawSomething]|22:36 Roger says, "Or hrm I guess there's some Batman villain called Clayface but I don't know what he looks like"
[tangent]|22:36 Roger says, "Maybe they means 'macaroni' in the civil war sense"
[DrawSomething]|22:36 jenrexrode says, "now that I'm more awake, I could have draw it in 4 parts"
[DrawSomething]|22:37 jenrexrode says, "not awake enough for verb agreement , tho"
[tangent]|22:38 * zaphod has joined the channel.
[lounge]|22:38 zaphod emerges.
[lounge]|22:38 jenrexrode says, "hi"
[lounge]|22:38 zaphod says, "Good evening!"
[DrawSomething]|22:38 jenrexrode says, "I did draw a lion on Hercules' shield, if you can't tell."
[tangent]|22:39 Bishop says, "Nope, apparently they're short, tubular shirataki. They look more like penne lisce, though, and will disappoint anyone wanting macaroni in many ways."
[DrawSomething]|22:39 jenrexrode says, "I think some people are using an iPad to play, but I'm just using a phone, and it's tricky to do small details like that.  Also the published stuff on FB is bigger than my phone"
[lounge]|22:39 Gerynar says, "Howdy"
[lounge]|22:43 Ellison arrives from the east.
[lounge]|22:43 Ellison says, "re"
[DrawSomething]|22:44 inky says, "IIRC the problem with trying to draw clayface is his thing is he can morph to look like anybody"
[lounge]|22:44 Gerynar says, "Howdy, Ellison"
[lounge]|22:44 jenrexrode says, "hi"
[DrawSomething]|22:45 Roger says, "He sounds so much like a Dick Tracy villain that maybe I'd just draw him"
[smoochies]|22:46 inky | Andrew and I made a vow to not only be partners for life, but to be on the tightest of teams in every way. In the kitchen, this might mean nothing more than him opening the wine while I bring the water to a boil. In the living room, it can be as simple as instinctively pausing the DVR when the other needs to pee.
[DrawSomething]|22:46 jenrexrode says, "maybe if you drew dick tracy and a guy with an urn face"
[smoochies]|22:46 BrenBarn says, "ha ha"
[smoochies]|22:46 DavidW says, "How adorable! (where's my insulin?)"
[smoochies]|22:47 BrenBarn says, "it's like being married to counselor troi"
[smoochies]|22:47 BrenBarn says, "'I sense your bladder is full'"
[smoochies]|22:47 inky says, "ha ha"
[smoochies]|22:47 Roger says, "nein ze team must be TOIGHTER"
[TV]|22:47 jenrexrode asks, "does this Zen guy get the bad guy pulling a gun on him in every episode?"
[smoochies]|22:47 Ellison says, "I predict being 'partners in tights' will be the new okcupid stereotype"
[smoochies]|22:48 Roger says, "Also two people in a kitchen is not the recipe for marital bliss, in my experience."
[smoochies]|22:48 inky says, "ha ha more"
[GerynarsAbode]|22:49 Ellison asks (of Gerynar), "hey, why did we disallow picture uploading to HbE. was there a reason?"
[English]|22:49 Gerynar says, "did we? I don't remember doing that"
[English]|22:49 Gerynar says, "ILAC"
[smoochies]|22:49 Ellison says, "er, cliche is what I meant"
[GerynarsAbode]|22:49 Gerynar says, "did we? I don't remember doing that"
[smoochies]|22:50 inky says (to Ellison), "partners in crime -> supervillains -> tights"
[GerynarsAbode]|22:50 Ellison says, "possibly we did it accidentally when we allowed .h, .g, and .zip (and it then disallowed the previously-allowed stuff)"
[smoochies]|22:50 Ellison says, "nice"
[GerynarsAbode]|22:51 Gerynar asks, "ok, editing settings file, adding 'png', 'jpg', 'jpeg', 'gif' ... am I missing any?"
[GerynarsAbode]|22:51 Roger says, "tif[f], I guess"
[GerynarsAbode]|22:52 Roger says, "svg maybe in theory"
[GerynarsAbode]|22:52 Gerynar asks, "how many people use tiff anymore, particularly, how many folks interested in IF use TIFF?"
[GerynarsAbode]|22:52 Roger says, "I don't know"
[smoochies]|22:52 BrenBarn says, "heh"
[smoochies]|22:52 BrenBarn says, "partners in supercrime"
[GerynarsAbode]|22:52 Ellison says (to Gerynar), "that sounds like it'd cover everything that's been uploaded so far"
[smoochies]|22:53 Ellison says, "ha"
[GerynarsAbode]|22:53 vimes says, "mostly tiff is used by people doing serious digital photography work"
[GerynarsAbode]|22:54 Gerynar says, "ok, updated config file uploaded"
[DrawSomething]|22:55 jenrexrode says (to Jota), "did you get that game unstuck"
[DrawSomething]|22:55 jenrexrode asks, "?"
[GerynarsAbode]|22:56 Ellison says, "nice"
[lounge]|22:56 two-star sought a woman and found a monkey. Well, it happens.
[DrawSomething]|22:57 Jota says, "Yeah. Well, the game randomly still gets stuck for no reason, but it generally seems to unstuck itself sooner or later."
[GerynarsAbode]|22:57 Gerynar says, "picture uploading seems to work fine now"
[lounge]|22:59 Rob comes right on in.
[lounge]|22:59 Rob says, "wazumf"
[DrawSomething]|22:59 Rob says, "hm, apparently there's an update to the app available"
[DrawSomething]|22:59 Rob says, "I kind of like it the way it is"
[lounge]|22:59 jenrexrode says, "hi rob"
[lounge]|23:00 Rob says, "yo"
[DrawSomething]|23:05 inky says, "heh"
[DrawSomething]|23:05 inky says, "why risk a change"
[personals]|23:06 inky | It's an online-dating mentality.
[personals]|23:06 inky |
[personals]|23:06 inky | "OOOH, MINOR FLAW! BEGONE! DEALLLL -- BREAKER!!!!"
[iPhone]|23:07 jmac says, "Well, this just happened. http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/the-warblers-nest/id536030627 "
[personals]|23:08 Rob says, "hm yeah"
[personals]|23:08 Rob says, "although I think it's a general dating mentality"
[personals]|23:09 Rob says, "half the episodes of seinfeld were based on this premise"
[lounge]|23:09 jmac likes "entering the lounge" as much as the next girl, but this isn't really the time.
[lounge]|23:09 jmac waves.
[lounge]|23:09 Rob says, "it's jmac"
[lounge]|23:09 Rob says, "mackin' the j big-time"
[DrawSomething]|23:10 jenrexrode says, "another masterpiece for Jota sent"
[books]|23:11 * NewsBoy hollers, "Extra! Extra! Roger has posted message 215, about 'The Pencil', to the bulletin board! I didn't want to post about that, but I was forced to."
[lounge]|23:11 jenrexrode says, "hi"
[Camembert]|23:11 jenrexrode says, "St Andre"
[lounge]|23:14 Lionheart makes no law abridging the freedom of s***ch, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to ***emble, and to pe***ion the government for a redress of grievances.
[personals]|23:14 BrenBarn says, "heh"
[personals]|23:14 BrenBarn says, "D-D-D-DEAL BREAKER!!"
[personals]|23:14 inky says (to Rob), "hmm yeah"
[books]|23:16 Rob says, "is it more like a pencil or a book than french toast"
[lounge]|23:17 Jota turns into a slimy toad!
[names]|23:17 Rob says, "there's an election right now"
[names]|23:17 Rob says, "George Kreep vs. Garland Peed"
[names]|23:17 Rob says, "that is all"
[GerynarsAbode]|23:17 Ellison says, "thanks, I have celebrated by uploading some pictures"
[personals]|23:18 Lionheart says (to Rob), "I've heard 'How I Met Your Mother' often goes to that well too."
[personals]|23:19 Ellison says, "well, I deleted my okcupid profile, but I guess I interpret the 'minor flaws' as signs that there are things the person would hate about me, too, so it's kind of a pre-emptive rejection. just the same, I acknowledge that I most likely did not approach okcupid the right way."
[GerynarsAbode]|23:21 Gerynar says, "nice...now, how about doin' a syntax file for Kate in linux :)"
[GerynarsAbode]|23:22 Ellison says, "we'll see. I should have a Linux box before the summer is over. not sure what my screen manager will be, but if it's KDE, I'll look into it!"
[GerynarsAbode]|23:22 Ellison asks, "you have moved on from gedit?"
[GerynarsAbode]|23:23 Gerynar says, "I'm not all that good at figuring out XML stuff"
[GerynarsAbode]|23:25 Ellison says, "that gedit one was tricky. I couldn't have added extra stuff without you breaking the ice, I think. the other XML ones I've worked with also used Scintilla or whatever which is a mess to me"
[GerynarsAbode]|23:26 Gerynar says, "still using gedit because I can't figure out the "contexts" section of the XML file"
[GerynarsAbode]|23:28 Gerynar says, "it's in the <contexts> section is where the color-coding rules/code-folding rules all go"
[GerynarsAbode]|23:29 Ellison says, "well, I'll try to get a hold of their syntax files and see how it looks to me"
[GerynarsAbode]|23:30 Gerynar says, "here's one of the context definitions: http://pastebin.com/0Wg4tUxy "
[lounge]|23:31 Jacqueline est arrivée.  Cool, les geekettes en puissance!
[GerynarsAbode]|23:31 Rob says, "who's kate"
[lounge]|23:31 Rob says, "bienvenue"
[GerynarsAbode]|23:31 Gerynar says, "kate is the "KDE Advanced Text Editor""
[lounge]|23:31 Gerynar says, "Wilkomen"
[GerynarsAbode]|23:31 Rob says, "oh that's a lot less sexy"
[lounge]|23:31 Rob says, "c'maan in"
[lounge]|23:32 Rob says, "--blazing saddles"
[lounge]|23:32 Gerynar says, "Been too long since I've seen that movie"
[lounge]|23:32 Rob asks, "are there two m's in Wilkommen?"
[lounge]|23:32 Rob says, "well get on it, man"
[lounge]|23:32 Gerynar says, "probably, it's been a couple of decades since I failed high school German"
[lounge]|23:32 Rob says, "I went to the game developer's conference back in aught oh nine and was hanging out late one night with some game writers"
[lounge]|23:33 Rob says, "this guy who has written a lot of tom clancy games and bob bates, erstwhile of infocom"
[lounge]|23:33 Rob says, "and we were kind of staring at each other not knowing how to break the ice"
[lounge]|23:33 Rob says, "and then suddenly someone started quoting lines from blazing saddles"
[lounge]|23:33 Rob says, "and then we basically quoted every line in the movie between the three of us over a half hour"
[lounge]|23:33 Rob says, "and it was good bonding"
[lounge]|23:34 Rob says, "also impressed me that nearly every single line of dialogue in Blazing Saddles is quotable and memorable"
[lounge]|23:34 Gerynar says, "'scuse me while I whip this out"
[lounge]|23:34 Rob says, "there y'go"
[lounge]|23:36 Jacqueline says, "Hello, everyone."
[lounge]|23:36 Gerynar says, "cze??"
[lounge]|23:36 Rob says, "how ya doin jacq"
[lounge]|23:36 Rob asks, "cze?"
[lounge]|23:36 Jacqueline says, "I just had a lovely solstice hike in a forest."
[lounge]|23:36 Rob says, "excellent"
[lounge]|23:36 DavidW says, "cool"
[lounge]|23:36 Jacqueline says, "Like, a real, big forest, not a Seattle city park (which are nice, but not the same)."
[lounge]|23:36 Rob says, "so today is the solstice? or tomorrow"
[lounge]|23:37 Jacqueline says, "It's today, I believe."
[lounge]|23:37 Rob says, "nice"
[jacq-chat]|23:37 vimes says, "harq! a jacq!"
[lounge]|23:37 Rob says, "I sat outside during the twilight sunset hours remotely playing videogames with my brother who lives thousands of miles away"
[lounge]|23:37 Jacqueline asks, "And how are you, Rob?"
[lounge]|23:37 Ellison asks (of Rob), "which game?"
[lounge]|23:37 Gerynar says, "cze?? (czesc with ' above the s and c) is Polish for hello (pronounced roughly Chyeshch)"
[lounge]|23:37 Rob says, "not so bad, after a lot of ups and downs"
[lounge]|23:37 Jacqueline says, "Timing - that sounds lovely."
[jacq-chat]|23:38 vimes says, "maga mentioned that i'm going to be in seattle, i presume"
[lounge]|23:38 Rob says (to Ellison), "lately we're playing this ipad game called MC3 (modern combat?)"
[jacq-chat]|23:38 Jacqueline says, "Hark! A person who is going to be --yeah, that."
[jacq-chat]|23:38 Jacqueline says, "He said he would set something up, but then he got the plague, so I'm not sure he's followed up on that."
[lounge]|23:38 Rob says, "it has various capture-the-flag type two-player games and about 8 different playfields and somehow the one-on-one competitive aspect of it amuses us"
[jacq-chat]|23:38 vimes says, "ick.  no, we haven't made any specific plans yet."
[lounge]|23:39 Rob says, "it's like just playing a good game of laser tag with your brother"
[lounge]|23:39 Rob says, "the interesting thing about this game is that it gives you an unprecedented level of control over your own UI"
[jacq-chat]|23:39 vimes says, "cultural outing followed by dinner get-together or a game night both sound good to me, though"
[dinner]|23:39 DavidW says, "Nutella, straight from the jar with a spoon."
[lounge]|23:40 Rob says, "the widget icons for precision-targeting, shooting, moving, radar map, throwing grenades, can all not only be re-sized but placed anywhere on the screen you want"
[jacq-chat]|23:40 Jacqueline says, "Mmkay, well as it so happens I'm taking a long weekend that weekend.  So I am about and have, thus far, no plans aside from ClubFloyd."
[jacq-chat]|23:40 Jacqueline says, "Which is, um, sorta negotiable sometimes if there is something special like you being here."
[lounge]|23:40 Rob says, "which has enabled us both to sort of tailor our own UIs to what we're fastest at hitting when suddenly confronting the other guy"
[jacq-chat]|23:40 vimes says, "how delightful!"
[lounge]|23:40 Ellison says (to Rob), "that sounds crazy"
[lounge]|23:40 Ellison says, "crazy!"
[lounge]|23:40 Rob says, "there's also a story campaign but neither of us has played it much"
[jacq-chat]|23:41 vimes says, "my plane doesn't arrive until 1:30 or something, so it /probably/ won't overlap too much with CF."
[jacq-chat]|23:41 Jacqueline asks, "So, anything you want to see?  The King Tut exhibit, or the Klondike Gold Rush National Historical Park (which I hear is nice) or the aquarium or poking about in the market, or... ?"
[jacq-chat]|23:41 Jacqueline asks, "And you have a place to stay?"
[lounge]|23:42 Rob says, "at a more abstract level it basically just reminds me of 1982 and my brother and I playing Combat on the Atari, which had all these random variations on you-shoot-the-other-guy 2-player games"
[jacq-chat]|23:42 vimes says, "yeah, Valve is getting me a hotel."
[lounge]|23:42 K-Y asks, "were you talking about playing Magic on the iPad?"
[jacq-chat]|23:42 Jacqueline says, "Nice."
[lounge]|23:42 Ellison says, "Combat is great"
[lounge]|23:42 Rob says, "so it's like Atari Combat (the game that came free with the VCS/2600) tarted up in 3d"
[lounge]|23:42 K-Y says, "you actually can now"
[jacq-chat]|23:42 Gerynar says, "Space-Needle ... take him to the Space Needle (just don't push him off the observation deck)"
[jacq-chat]|23:42 Jacqueline asks, "Why are you visiting, precisely?"
[lounge]|23:42 Rob asks (of K-Y), "real MtG?"
[jacq-chat]|23:42 vimes says, "(and transporting me from the airport to the hotel, and from the hotel to the office, and from the office back to the hotel, and from the hotel back to the airport)"
[jacq-chat]|23:42 Jacqueline asks, "Which hotel?"
[jacq-chat]|23:42 vimes says, "in-person interview with Valve."
[lounge]|23:42 K-Y says, "yes"
[lounge]|23:42 Rob says, "we got into playing a game called Kard Combat, which apparently was created by the guy who designed MtG"
[jacq-chat]|23:42 Jacqueline says, "Excellent."
[lounge]|23:42 Rob says, "so it was actually pretty good in game terms"
[jacq-chat]|23:42 Jacqueline says, "I was hoping that was it."
[jacq-chat]|23:42 vimes says, "i have no idea which hotel yet - i only have the plane reservations, not my full itinerary in hand"
[lounge]|23:42 K-Y says, "'Magic 2013'"
[DrawSomething]|23:43 jenrexrode says, "another masterpiece"
[jacq-chat]|23:43 Jacqueline asks, "Well, where is their office?"
[lounge]|23:43 Ellison says, "my brother and his best friend have fond memories of playing one of the Combat minigames and using their turrets to make it look like they were talking to eachother"
[jacq-chat]|23:43 Jacqueline says, "Vaguely."
[lounge]|23:43 Rob says, "I kind of screwed things up by one night buying an upgrade to my deck that my brother didn't, which disrupted the equilibrium because I had more cards than he did, and it made the sense of equal fun drain out of it"
[lounge]|23:43 Rob says, "well, I will look into that, thanks"
[jacq-chat]|23:43 vimes says, "west side of bellevue, middle-ish north/south"
[lounge]|23:43 Rob says, "I had periodically looked for an ipad MtG but hadn't seen one, though I'd enjoyed playing it on my xbox"
[lounge]|23:44 K-Y says, "just came out yesterday"
[lounge]|23:44 Rob says, "there was some variation of the tank game in Combat where you could corner an opponent at the edge of the screen and shoot him so that he spun out and wrapped around and came out in some crazy other random place"
[lounge]|23:44 Rob says, "and my brother used to delight in humiliating me with this treatment"
[lounge]|23:44 Ellison says, "heh, yeah"
[lounge]|23:44 Rob says, "which somehow now that I look back I enjoyed too"
[lounge]|23:45 Rob says, "so this MC3 game has a variant called Manhunt"
[lounge]|23:45 Rob says, "where there's one flag to capture between the two of you"
[lounge]|23:45 Gerynar says, "You didn't need to get shot to be "transported", if you just went to a corner and turned towards it, you'd move to the other side"
[lounge]|23:45 Rob says, "so in addition to the points and XP you get from shooting the other guy, the official tally of who is winning is a score marker that ratchets up every five seconds when you're holding the flag"
[lounge]|23:46 StephenW enters the lounge. How unseemly!
[lounge]|23:46 K-Y says, "huh, you get to play a whole chunk of the game for free"
[lounge]|23:46 Rob says, "so the longer you evade your opponent, the higher your score towards officially winning"
[lounge]|23:46 StephenW asks, "Emily, are you here?"
[jacq-chat]|23:46 Jacqueline says, "Mmkay - we've been kinda meaning to go check that part of town out, I think."
[jacq-chat]|23:46 Jacqueline says, "Is it the funky oh you must visit place?  I think perhaps it is."
[lounge]|23:46 K-Y says, "but, uh-oh, 1GB"
[lounge]|23:46 Emily goes home.
[lounge]|23:46 * Emily has disconnected.
[lounge]|23:46 Rob says, "when your opponent has the flag, you can see where they are on a radar blip, but they can't see you (unless, through some means not worth describing, they can activate their own radar and see you coming)"
[lounge]|23:47 Rob says, "wow, I guess she isn't"
[lounge]|23:47 StephenW says, "yeah, guess not"
[lounge]|23:47 Rob says, "let's hope that was a random disconnect and not a total 'talk to the hand' logout"
[lounge]|23:47 Gerynar wanders off in search of bed
[lounge]|23:47 Gerynar says "bloop" and shrinks down into a little dot, then winks out...just like those old-fashioned B&w televisions.
[lounge]|23:47 * Gerynar has disconnected.
[lounge]|23:47 Rob says, "gn'erynar"
[lounge]|23:47 Ellison says (to StephenW), "she is here but has been idle for most of the time she's been here"
[lounge]|23:47 DavidW says, "It was likely a random disconnect."
[lounge]|23:47 Ellison says, "oops"
[lounge]|23:47 Rob says, "are you sure only Emily can help you and not the total rest of the mud"
[lounge]|23:48 StephenW asks, "Is anyone else working on Little Text People?"
[lounge]|23:48 StephenW says, "Anyone else on here, I mean."
[jacq-chat]|23:48 vimes says, "man, i have no idea about anything in seattle except for some stuff downtown / at the market, the baseball stadium, and where my aunt lives up to the north"
[jacq-chat]|23:48 vimes says, "for all i've been there half a dozen times"
[lounge]|23:48 Rob says, "hm not I"
[lounge]|23:48 Rob says, "I need to be reminded what it is"
[jacq-chat]|23:48 vimes says, "went up the space needle once, ate a lot of seafood, hung out with some homeless kids"
[jacq-chat]|23:49 K-Y says, "that's almost a folk song lyric"
[jacq-chat]|23:49 Rob says, "I went into the space needle with inky"
[lounge]|23:49 DavidW says, "I've never heard of it."
[jacq-chat]|23:49 Rob says, "I haven't been there since he moved out of his old condo due to new relationship happenings"
[lounge]|23:49 StephenW says, "It's a new interactive narrative game that Linden Labs is working on.  I think Emily is consulting or otherwise involved in the project."
[lounge]|23:49 StephenW says, "I want to talk to her about speaking at a workshop in interactive narrative technology."
[jacq-chat]|23:50 Jacqueline says, "Well we live by the space needle and will be pleased if you want to hang out downtown as we have no car, but neither do you, so anywhere there or here or in between seems good."
[jacq-chat]|23:50 Rob says, "I had started to become accustomed to the occasional seattle trip right about when they stopped happening"
[jacq-chat]|23:50 Rob says, "through no fault of anyone's own"
[jacq-chat]|23:50 Rob says, "people deciding PAX was bogus, maybe"
[lounge]|23:51 StephenW says, "Also, if anyone here is into writing research papers, you should totally submit one to INT5 :)"
[jacq-chat]|23:51 vimes says, "as a brief visitor, i have no problem taking taxis or busses or what have you around"
[lounge]|23:51 Rob says, "well, you could send her an email saying 'hi I'm stephenW on ifmud, are you going to be speaking at this workshop? because I'm interested in that'"
[lounge]|23:51 Rob says, "yeah, you should"
[lounge]|23:51 Rob asks, "is there a url for INT5?"
[jacq-chat]|23:52 Jacqueline says, "Well, then it's better to plan around what it is you as the visitor want to do, so let us know."
[lounge]|23:52 Rob says, "oh you mean I/we should"
[lounge]|23:52 StephenW says, "I'm running the workshop, so I'm trying to talk to her about it."
[lounge]|23:52 Rob says, "well, you should too"
[lounge]|23:52 Rob says, "oh ok"
[lounge]|23:52 StephenW says, " http://dgrc.ncsu.edu/int5 "
[lounge]|23:52 Rob says, "well you should invite J Robinson Wheeler instead"
[jacq-chat]|23:52 vimes says, "the really important thing as far as i'm concerned is 'hang out with my friends'"
[lounge]|23:52 Rob says, "and pay him lots of money to come and be awesome"
[jacq-chat]|23:52 Rob says, "yep"
[lounge]|23:53 StephenW says, "This is an academic workshop... not the place to look for money :P"
[lounge]|23:53 Ellison says, "and cover his entourage, like Roody 'Hollywood' Yogurt"
[lounge]|23:53 jenrexrode asks (of Rob), "so you can just turn off and on that awesome at will?"
[jacq-chat]|23:53 vimes says, "i enjoy aquariums and food and museums and gorgeous scenery and so forth, but that's not the focus"
[jacq-chat]|23:53 Rob says, "I enjoyed randomly going for thai food or to that dessert place that used-to-be-near-inky more than the space needle"
[jacq-chat]|23:53 BrenBarn says, "I went and hung out in Seattle center and watched people dancing, that was cool"
[jacq-chat]|23:54 Jacqueline asks (of Rob), "That chocolate place?"
[jacq-chat]|23:54 Rob says, "if I could have ever scheduled it playing board games with lpsmith would have been a priority more than tourist stuff"
[jacq-chat]|23:54 Rob says, "yeah! you know the one I mean"
[jacq-chat]|23:54 Jacqueline says, "I got pretty sick last time I ate there, but have had other good experiences."
[lounge]|23:54 Rob says (to jenrexrode), "hm nope I can't"
[jacq-chat]|23:54 Jacqueline says, "But yeah, inky took me there once."
[jacq-chat]|23:54 Rob says, "aw"
[lounge]|23:54 two-star took 30,500 buckets -- why?
[jacq-chat]|23:55 Rob says, "I remember going on a walk with inky and him saying 'look, there's the failed monorail sticking out up there'"
[jacq-chat]|23:55 Jacqueline says (to v), "Well, we have an aquarium membership.  We might have a free pass left (not sure) for a guest.  But even if we don't, the three of us collectively would get in cheap.  We also have memberships to the art museum and the science museum."
[jacq-chat]|23:56 Jacqueline says (to Rob), "heehee"
[jacq-chat]|23:56 Rob says, "then there was the time we were on a bus and we were talking about random ifmud things and mentioned mamster, and a guy across from us on the bus said, 'Wait, you know mamster?'"
[jacq-chat]|23:56 Rob says, "which was awesome in four dimensions at once"
[lounge]|23:56 StephenW asks, "So what are the chances Emily will be back?"
[lounge]|23:56 Rob says, "ehh, not as good as her replying to a specifically-written email"
[lounge]|23:57 Rob says, "she is awful busy these days"
[lounge]|23:57 Rob says, "but email is still an official channel she responds to"
[jacq-chat]|23:57 Jacqueline says, "ha - yay"
[lounge]|23:57 StephenW says, "Yeah... but I was hoping to actually talk to her.  I figure I've got a better chance of convincing her to come and/or learning who else to talk to."
[jacq-chat]|23:57 vimes says, "ha ha"
[lounge]|23:58 Rob says, "well, you can keep rolling the dice, or you can mention in the same email that you'd like to chat about it, and maybe you can work it out that way"
[lounge]|23:58 Rob says, "I don't even know what time zone she's in at any given week these days"
[jacq-chat]|23:58 vimes says, "well, i'd enjoy going to the aquarium and then hanging out, be it dinner out or pizza at home with games"
[jacq-chat]|23:58 Jacqueline says, "Well, there are boardgame meetups all the time, and our regular one is on Wednesdays, but I think there are probably ones on Sundays or Mondays.  Would you like me to check, or did you mean getting together with other mudders for games?  That would be cool as well, either out at a pub or at our place."
[jacq-chat]|23:58 Rob says (to vimes), "so what's vimes doing in seattle in the first place"
[jacq-chat]|23:59 vimes says, "i was thinking other mudders - i can meet strangers anywhere"
[jacq-chat]|23:59 vimes says (to Rob), "interviewing with Valve"
[jacq-chat]|23:59 Rob asks (of jacq), "didn't I read that you guys were moving again?"
[jacq-chat]|00:00 Rob says, "or am I remembering something crazy from ages ago"
[jacq-chat]|00:00 Rob says, "wow, valve"
[jacq-chat]|00:00 Rob says, "good luck with the interviw"
[jacq-chat]|00:00 vimes says, "thank you!"
[jacq-chat]|00:00 vimes says, "the two phone interviews went really well"
[jacq-chat]|00:00 vimes says, "and all signs so far point to 'they really, really like me'"
[jacq-chat]|00:01 Jacqueline says (to Rob), "Us?  No.  We're in Seattle for at least a few years."
[jacq-chat]|00:01 Alex says (to Jacqueline), "Awwwk! Word on the street is that US is Um Seven."
[jacq-chat]|00:01 Jacqueline says, "I would say 3-4 at least, maybe 5."
[jacq-chat]|00:01 Jacqueline says (to vimes), "Okay, then I shall see about having a soiree at our place and inquire with maga."
[jacq-chat]|00:02 vimes says, "woo!"
[jacq-chat]|00:02 Jacqueline says, "but he appears to be at game board night or something this evening, so I will ask him when I get home"
[jacq-chat]|00:02 vimes says, "i'll update my bbpost on #seattle when i know my exact itinerary"
[jacq-chat]|00:03 Jacqueline says, "Sounds good."
[jacq-chat]|00:03 Jacqueline asks, "Maybe, if you could, sent me a note with the best evening for dinner / gamage?"
[jacq-chat]|00:04 BrenBarn says, "IRTA 'garbage'"
[jacq-chat]|00:04 vimes says, "i'm pretty sure it's going to be Sunday the 1st"
[jacq-chat]|00:04 vimes says, "since i have interviews all day monday and i don't know how far into the evening that's going to extend, and those are the only two evenings i'm in town"
[jacq-chat]|00:04 Jacqueline says, "Gotcha."
[jacq-chat]|00:05 Jacqueline asks, "Any specific requests supper wise?"
[jacq-chat]|00:05 vimes says, "i can't eat bell peppers.  otherwise, i'm super flexible."
[jacq-chat]|00:06 vimes says, "(it's not an allergy as such - they're just amazingly, intolerably bitter-tasting to me, no matter how they're prepared)"
[jacq-chat]|00:06 Jacqueline says, "Yoga restaurant.  Got it."
[jacq-chat]|00:07 vimes says, "hee hee"
[jacq-chat]|00:07 Jacqueline says, "I meant to @emit that.  Oh well."
[jacq-chat]|00:08 K-Y says, "my lungs are contorting"
[jacq-chat]|00:08 K-Y says, "I have inhaled a roast"
[jacq-chat]|00:08 Jacqueline asks, "From laughing at my lame joke?"
[jacq-chat]|00:08 Rob says (to jacq), "ok"
[lounge]|00:09 jmac goes home.
[people-suk]|00:09 Ellison says (to Rob), "that was nice of you to advise StephenW like that. I probably would have only said, 'Ok, just do everything opposite to what you're doing now.'"
[jacq-chat]|00:11 BrenBarn says, "hooray"
[people-suk]|00:11 Jacqueline says, "I'm pretty sure she's hanging out with maga somewhere this evening."
[people-suk]|00:11 Jacqueline says, "So no, not here to be harassed."
[lounge]|00:15 Rob says, "hm submissions due soon"
[people-suk]|00:15 Rob says, "yeah I was feeling at my helpfulness-est"
[people-suk]|00:15 Rob says, "hangin' with maga eh"
[lounge]|00:16 StephenW says, "Yeah.  I posed something about INT5 on the message boards a while back, but I don't think many people read it."
[people-suk]|00:16 Jacqueline says, "I think he mentioned that, yeah."
[people-suk]|00:16 Jacqueline says, "He hadn't been feeling great, but said if he was feeling better he might."
[lounge]|00:16 Rob says, "yeah you have to bring it to her attention directly"
[lounge]|00:17 Rob says, "oh huh it's at stanford in october"
[lounge]|00:18 StephenW says, "Yeah"
[lounge]|00:18 Rob says, "coincidentally this is when my 20th alumni party is supposed to gather"
[lounge]|00:18 Rob says, "I wasn't planning on going to that, but now that there's two things at the same time, hm"
[lounge]|00:18 StephenW exclaims, "Well, all the more reason to submit a paper!"
[lounge]|00:18 Rob says, "even weirder, I actually *do* have a paper"
[lounge]|00:18 Rob says, "that I was working on a couple of months ago"
[lounge]|00:19 Rob says, "it's at least enough of something to submit, and someone else can decide whether it's worth a presentation or a poster or nuthin'"
[lounge]|00:19 Adam's reaction time is one nanosecond, and his "memory" capacity is 1,000 megabits.
[lounge]|00:19 Rob says, "hello! Adam"
[lounge]|00:19 Adam says, "Hello"
[lounge]|00:19 Rob asks, "how are you doing?"
[lounge]|00:19 StephenW exclaims, "The universe is telling your to submit to INT5!"
[lounge]|00:19 Adam says, "Right now I am in my hotel room recovering from this evening's excursion"
[lounge]|00:20 Rob says, "in what city are you"
[lounge]|00:20 Adam says, "11:30 p.m. and it was 100 degrees outside"
[lounge]|00:20 Adam says, "Montreal"
[lounge]|00:20 Ellison says, "so many hotels, so little time"
[lounge]|00:20 Rob says, "100 degrees??!"
[lounge]|00:20 Rob says, "I started thinking you were somewhere in the south"
[lounge]|00:20 Adam says (to Rob), "38C, anyway"
[lounge]|00:20 Rob says, "well dang"
[lounge]|00:20 Adam says, "Super humid, too"
[lounge]|00:20 Rob says, "what's going on in montreal"
[lounge]|00:20 Adam says, "Nothing, I was just in Eastern Canada and thought I'd swing by"
[lounge]|00:20 Rob says, "a city I'd like to visit again someday (only other visit was when I was 9 years old)"
[lounge]|00:21 Adam says, "I was in Quebec City this morning"
[lounge]|00:21 Rob says, "I'm kind of waiting to have a reason to go there besides idle revisitiveness"
[lounge]|00:21 Adam says, "The difference I noticed: in Quebec City no one switched to English upon noticing my accent, and in Montreal everyone does"
[lounge]|00:22 Rob says, "kind of makes sense"
[lounge]|00:22 Rob asks, "which means you started in french both places?"
[lounge]|00:22 Adam says, "I guess maybe the QC folk are less comfortable in English, so as long as I speak vaguely passable French they will stick to it"
[lounge]|00:23 jenrexrode says, "cool"
[lounge]|00:23 Adam says, "Yeah, I have tried to start in French everywhere here"
[lounge]|00:23 Adam says, "(here = Quebec province)"
[lounge]|00:23 StephenW says, "Good night all"
[lounge]|00:23 Adam says, "I was in Ottawa earlier and didn't start in French there"
[lounge]|00:23 Rob says, "the one time I was in france and ordered a meal without speaking any english to the waiter, he paused to recalibrate his brain for a minute, as if he had to work to realize I was speaking his language, but then he was ok with it"
[lounge]|00:24 Rob says, "I'm assuming an accent overlaid with insecurity-tone-of-voice is what I produced"
[lounge]|00:24 Adam says, "I can speak quite well, it's just understanding what people say back to me that is very touch-and-go"
[lounge]|00:24 jenrexrode says, "my French teacher said I spoke French with a Texas accent."
[lounge]|00:25 Rob asks, "I think I probably said everything as if it were a question? you know?"
[lounge]|00:25 Adam says, "It's very much a matter of catching a couple of words and making up a sentence to go with it"
[lounge]|00:25 Rob says (to jen), "hooray"
[lounge]|00:25 Adam says, "And hoping that it's something like what the person meant"
[lounge]|00:25 Rob says, "or le yeehaw"
[lounge]|00:25 Adam says (to Jen), "I have a story about that"
[lounge]|00:26 Adam says, "I heard something a while back about Air France hiring representatives in Texas"
[lounge]|00:26 DorianX slouches off, muttering, "Why did we decide to travel to a planet called 'Pandora' in a ship called 'Titanic' launched from a base called 'Icarus' to find a resource called 'Lucifer'? Why must we tempt fate?"
[lounge]|00:27 Adam says, "And answering the phone, 'Hello, kin Ah hep yeh?' and alienating the French customer base calling for flights back home from Texas, etc."
[lounge]|00:27 Adam says, "So Air France sent them in for French lessons"
[lounge]|00:27 Adam says, "And instructed them to answer the phone 'Bonjour, Air France'"
[lounge]|00:27 Rob asks, "voulay voos travayay por mwah, lil lady?"
[lounge]|00:27 jenrexrode says (to Rob), "haw haw"
[lounge]|00:27 Rob says, "travayay rhymes with yippy-ki-yay"
[lounge]|00:27 Adam says, "Initially it came out as "Bahn-jurr, Air Freance'"
[lounge]|00:28 Rob says, "heh"
[lounge]|00:28 Adam says, "So they sent the reps in for accent lessons"
[lounge]|00:28 Recchi enters the lounge, triumphantly hoisting object #31337.
[lounge]|00:28 Adam says, "And they were very successful"
[lounge]|00:28 jenrexrode says, "cool"
[lounge]|00:28 Rob says, "uh oh"
[lounge]|00:28 Adam says, "Soon the reps could produce a perfect 'Bonjour, Air France!' in a Parisian accent"
[lounge]|00:28 Adam says, "So they restaffed them"
[lounge]|00:28 Adam says, "Next morning:"
[lounge]|00:29 Adam says, "'Bonjour, Air France! Kin Ah hep yeh?'"
[lounge]|00:29 Rob says, "there's a way in which you could work out french phonemes and texan phonemes and scramble match the two to something akin"
[lounge]|00:29 jenrexrode says, "hee hee"
[lounge]|00:29 Rob says, "yay"
[lounge]|00:29 Rob shoots sixguns in air to express delight
[lounge]|00:29 jenrexrode says, "I guess France might have 2 syllables in Texas"
[lounge]|00:29 Rob says, "yeah, that's why the 'Freance' I think"
[lounge]|00:30 Rob says, "a'mean, ah thank"
[lounge]|00:30 Adam says, "Anyway, I don't know whether you've heard about this already, but I came to Canada to visit my friend Mandy and her daughters (age 8 and 6)"
[lounge]|00:31 Adam says, "Meaning that last Thursday, after 14 years, I finally played Photopia with actual little girls"
[lounge]|00:31 Rob says, "hadn't heard, go on"
[lounge]|00:31 Adam says, "(colored scenes only)"
[lounge]|00:31 Rob says, "oh wait, so who's Mandy then"
[lounge]|00:31 Adam says, "I went to grad school with her back in the '90s"
[lounge]|00:31 Rob says, "(also, photopia was 14 years ago? wha ?)"
[lounge]|00:32 Adam says, "Yeah, it's been around as long as both girls put together"
[lounge]|00:32 Rob says, "well goldang"
[lounge]|00:32 Rob says, "as we say in texas"
[lounge]|00:32 Rob asks, "so how did the girls like it?"
[lounge]|00:33 Rob asks, "also, how did they relate to IF type stories in general. were they getting it/getting into it?"
[lounge]|00:33 Adam says, "It was very interesting, but my main observation was that they seemed as though they would like old-style IF - they had little patience for long descriptions, and little interest in exploring for the sake of exploration, but they were puzzle fiends"
[lounge]|00:33 Rob says, "oh, huh"
[lounge]|00:33 Rob says, "puzzle fiends is good"
[lounge]|00:34 inky says, "oh yeah"
[lounge]|00:34 Rob says, "I always took a long description as a reward for getting somewhere new"
[lounge]|00:34 inky says, "seeing you talking about this with Rob reminds me that I should have suggested you show them ASCII and the Argonauts"
[lounge]|00:34 Adam says, "They kept trying to make everything into an elaborate puzzle: 'Okay, I want to take these rocks and use them to sharpen this shovel into an axe and go back to the red planet and chop my way into the power plant'"
[lounge]|00:34 Rob says, "and I guess there's various types of players. I happen to love exploration for its own sake"
[lounge]|00:34 Rob says, "hm, neat"
[lounge]|00:34 Rob says (to inky), "hmm"
[lounge]|00:34 Rob says, "well that's pure puzzles with all surface stripped bare"
[lounge]|00:35 inky says, "I forget what age kids hear about greek mythology"
[lounge]|00:35 Rob says, "also it's something that I've been planning for half a decade to make into a graphic puzzle game"
[lounge]|00:35 BrenBarn says, "but old-school IF wouldn't provide any of those solutions"
[lounge]|00:35 Rob says, "so knowing whether the puzzle skeleton works for kids is of interest to me"
[lounge]|00:35 Rob says, "modern simulationist IF might"
[lounge]|00:36 Adam says, "Apparently the game made an impression because they've been playing space-themed games in the days since the visit"
[lounge]|00:36 Rob says, "also, if they're keenly thinking along those types of lines, then they're budding IF authors"
[lounge]|00:36 Rob says, "it's a short step from out-thinking an author's solutions to wanting to come up with your own puzzles and make them happen"
[lounge]|00:36 Adam says, "Here's something Mandy found in purple crayon on a slip of paper:"
[lounge]|00:37 Adam says, "'Dear Lucy, The plan hasn't worked. I need to find a way to escape this house and go my home Planet Mars and find the thumb drives. Sincerely, Charlotte. PS: Being your fake human sister was fun.'"
[lounge]|00:37 Roger says, "Awww"
[lounge]|00:37 Rob says, "aw man, an even younger generation of IF kids makes me feel older, but makes me hopeful anyway"
[lounge]|00:37 Rob says, "wow"
[lounge]|00:37 inky says, "ha ha"
[lounge]|00:37 Rob says, "it's a novel in 37 words"
[games]|00:39 jenrexrode says, "I have 3 A's left to finish this game of word with friends - thank goodness for lava"
[lounge]|00:41 Rob says, "ok, I have to hustle and boogie on out of here"
[lounge]|00:42 inky says, "boogie night"
[lounge]|00:42 Rob says, "talk to you later, Adam"
[lounge]|00:42 Rob says, "and you other guys"
[lounge]|00:42 Adam says, "Yeah, it's pretty late out here"
[lounge]|00:42 Rob moseys right on out.
[lounge]|00:42 Adam says, "Sleepytime, I reckon"
[lounge]|00:42 Adam says, "So long"
[lounge]|00:42 Adam lives in a world of glass skyscrapers, high-speed trains, gas-powered automobiles, calculators, and a worldwide communications network, yet cannot find happiness and comes to a tragic end.
[lounge]|00:42 * Adam has disconnected.
[lounge]|00:42 jenrexrode says, "here on Gilligan's Isle"
[lounge]|00:43 StephenW will never really leave... he will live on in your hearts.
[lounge]|00:43 * StephenW has disconnected.
[news]|00:46 BrenBarn | http://gma.yahoo.com/michigan-man-29-college-degrees-counting-191653707--abc-news-topstories.html
[news]|00:46 BrenBarn says, "this guy living the dream!"
[news]|00:46 BrenBarn says, "er, is living the dream"
[news]|00:46 inky says, "I'd have 29 degrees too if you could count my 191653707"
[news]|00:47 BrenBarn says, "heh"
[news]|00:47 inky says, "ha ha"
[news]|00:47 inky | While pursuing the doctorate, he met Western Michigan University Professor Tom Carey when Nicholson was working as a parking lot attendant writing tickets for the university. He wrote Carey three tickets in one day and the two have now known each other for 35 years.
[news]|00:47 BrenBarn says, "yeah"
[news]|00:47 BrenBarn says, "he passes him his food through the cell grating every morning"
[news]|00:47 inky says, "sometimes he writes him another ticket for old times' sake"
[news]|00:48 BrenBarn says, "heh"
[news]|00:48 ghira says, "this parking ticket is too narrow to ..."
[news]|00:48 BrenBarn says, "that makes me imagine a sweet story about old friends where one occasionally gives the other a pie or something with a ticket that says 'you are fined -1 pie for being my friend all these years'"
[news]|00:49 inky says, "ha ha ha"
[news]|00:52 Roger says, "Oh Finn you rascal"
[kickstarter]|00:52 BrenBarn | The brainchild of NYC pianist/arranger Scott Bradlee, A Motown Tribute to Nickelback offers an alternative take on Nickelback’s recorded legacy by painstakingly converting the Canadian modern rock band’s entire oeuvre into authentic Motown styles of the 1960’s and 70’s.
[lounge]|00:59 olethros thinks, in tearstained capitals.
[lounge]|00:59 jenrexrode says, "hi"
[lounge]|00:59 olethros says, "hi"
[web-toons]|01:01 inky says, "hee hee: http://chainsawsuit.com/2012/06/18/the-beast-within/ "
[lounge]|01:02 ghira says, "o-leth-ros"
[lounge]|01:03 olethros says, "g-hir-a"
[kickstarter]|01:03 BrenBarn says, "hmmmmm"
[web-toons]|01:03 Ellison says, "heh"
[books]|01:04 olethros says, "oh I see"
[greece]|01:04 ghira says, "how alarmist is this? http://ukhousebubble.blogspot.nl/2012/06/greece-situation-report.html "
[kickstarter]|01:04 BrenBarn says, "it seems not that common to see kickstarter projects where the money just pays them for creating the thing"
[kickstarter]|01:05 BrenBarn asks, "is that because it's not allowed, because no one will fund such projects, or because no one realized you could do that?"
[kickstarter]|01:05 inky says, "hmm"
[kickstarter]|01:05 Roger says, "I would guess they have a higher rate of failure"
[web-toons]|01:06 Roger says, "I trust I need not mention whom I'm reminded of"
[web-toons]|01:07 Roger | http://chainsawsuit.com/2012/05/25/anger-management/
[greece]|01:07 olethros says, "all true"
[web-toons]|01:07 inky says, "hee hee"
[web-toons]|01:07 inky says, "yeah I showed that to him and he laughed a lot"
[greece]|01:07 ghira asks, "but carefully selected to paint a very negative picture?"
[greece]|01:07 ghira asks, "or spelling "doom" with extra os is reasonable?"
[kickstarter]|01:07 inky says, "hmm"
[kickstarter]|01:07 BrenBarn says, "I did see a couple where some dude put a short story out under creative commons as a small kickstarter project"
[greece]|01:07 olethros says, "some of these have been resolved"
[seattle]|01:08 lpsmith says, "#belated, but I have been watching the vimes-meet with interest; I hope to be able to attend at least something."
[seattle]|01:08 lpsmith says, "and/or host games, who knows."
[greece]|01:08 ghira asks, "will the new government be handing out the unicorns and rainbows shortly?"
[kickstarter]|01:08 inky says, "I think you're less likely to get money if you're just like "hey, I want some money for this" instead of "hey, I need the money to buy stuff to do the thing""
[greece]|01:08 olethros says, "so the blackout thing has been resolved, because they got a state loan or something"
[qman]|01:08 DavidW says, "oh look. Q-Man is wrestling polar bears during a arctic blizzard in the white paint dimension."
[kickstarter]|01:08 BrenBarn says, "hmmmm"
[kickstarter]|01:08 BrenBarn says, "that seems messed up though"
[kickstarter]|01:08 inky says, "yeah"
[greece]|01:08 ghira says, "and the gas? that sounds bad"
[kickstarter]|01:09 inky says, "well, I think psychologically kickstarter is about forming a community with the creators and the fans"
[kickstarter]|01:09 inky says, "that said, zarf basically just asked for money"
[kickstarter]|01:09 BrenBarn says, "like, you're basically saying 'give me some money now so I can get MORE money later from people who didn't fund me back now!'"
[kickstarter]|01:10 inky says, "I guess he asked for money to quit his job"
[kickstarter]|01:10 lpsmith says, "Yeah, but the reward levels were 'a copy of the game + stuff'"
[kickstarter]|01:10 ghira asks, "has anyone done protection money kickstarters yet? asking for money _not_ to do things?"
[kickstarter]|01:10 ghira says, "adam sandler, maybe"
[kickstarter]|01:10 ghira says, "I won't make a new film for 1 million dollars"
[greece]|01:11 olethros says, "don't know, maybe"
[greece]|01:11 olethros says, "they already can't buy crude oil"
[kickstarter]|01:11 BrenBarn says, "yeah, the question is what to offer for rewards if you're just going to use the money to pay yourself"
[greece]|01:11 olethros says, "(main imports were from Iran)"
[greece]|01:12 olethros says, "(the others won't extend credit)"
[greece]|01:12 ghira says, "bleah"
[kickstarter]|01:12 inky asks, "well, you can still offer rewards, can't you?"
[greece]|01:13 olethros says, "the singer case is still not comletely settled"
[kickstarter]|01:13 inky says, "for $X I'll sell you a book, for $Y I'll sell you a signed book, for $Z I'll hand-deliver the book to your house"
[kickstarter]|01:13 BrenBarn says, "well, what I'm envisioning is using kickstarter for street-performer-protocol projects"
[kickstarter]|01:13 BrenBarn says, "where the whole point is that the produced work is to be freely available"
[greece]|01:13 olethros says, "the latest case was related to a few thousand euros only"
[kickstarter]|01:13 BrenBarn says, "I guess you can still offer signed ones or the like, depending on what it is"
[kickstarter]|01:14 inky says, "aha"
[kickstarter]|01:14 inky says, "ok, that makes sense"
[kickstarter]|01:14 inky says, "yeah, you can still offer some other rewards"
[lounge]|01:14 K-Y then looked around and came to the conclusion that pretty much no one in this lounge even lifts.
[lounge]|01:14 * K-Y has disconnected.
[kickstarter]|01:14 inky says, "like, at the $30 level you can offer a t-shirt which costs you $10"
[kickstarter]|01:14 BrenBarn says, "yeah"
[kickstarter]|01:14 inky says, "or you could have some of the tiers be like "you'll be listed on my website as a cool dude who subsidized the release of this!""
[kickstarter]|01:14 BrenBarn says, "I'm contemplating trying to do a kickstarter-based SPP music thing"
[kickstarter]|01:14 BrenBarn says, "ha ha"
[kickstarter]|01:15 inky says, "or "I'll give you an advance preview of the next thing I do!""
[kickstarter]|01:15 lpsmith says, "Well, the 'tropes vs. women in video games' thing was a street-performer-protocol kickstarter."
[kickstarter]|01:15 lpsmith says, "(perhaps that was one of the projects that pointed out that it's not actually done that often)"
[greece]|01:15 olethros says, "oh, vote for god"
[kickstarter]|01:16 Roger says, "Back in the day this used to be called the ransom model"
[kickstarter]|01:16 lpsmith says, "And yeah, the rewards there were largely 'your name in X credits'"
[kickstarter]|01:18 BrenBarn says, "this guy seems to have done several small writing ones: http://www.kickstarter.com/profiles/gregstolze/projects/created "
[kickstarter]|01:18 BrenBarn says, "where he basically offers stories for a kickstarter price of 10c a word"
[kickstarter]|01:18 inky says, "greg stolze has done a bunch of RPG supplements with street performer protocol"
[kickstarter]|01:19 BrenBarn says, "hmmm"
[kickstarter]|01:20 BrenBarn says, "so that suggests it's no coincidence that he's one dude really trying the kickstarter SPP plan"
[lounge]|01:20 Roger goes home.
[lounge]|01:20 * Roger has disconnected.
[kickstarter]|01:22 BrenBarn says, "the kickstarter site is kind of jacked up"
[kickstarter]|01:22 BrenBarn says, "some elements aren't correctly positioned"
[kickstarter]|01:24 Ellison says, "this is kind of interesting. Recchi linked to this kickstarter-ish thing where people were raising money for this older lady with a crappy job."
[kickstarter]|01:24 Ellison says, " http://www.indiegogo.com/loveforkarenhklein "
[youtube]|01:24 olethros asks, "neo-nazi videos, eh?"
[kickstarter]|01:25 BrenBarn says, "sheeit, a hundred thou"
[kickstarter]|01:25 BrenBarn says, "she'll have a good vacation"
[youtube]|01:25 olethros says, "ok, timeto label all of these videos as hate speech"
[youtube]|01:25 olethros says, " http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cevalqf5o1Q "
[kickstarter]|01:26 Ellison says, "even knowing this tale has a happy-ish ending, I still don't have the heart to watch the video"
[MUDhelp]|01:26 jenrexrode says, "time to figure out why I can't see links - i.e. where the link color options are"
[kickstarter]|01:26 BrenBarn says, "hmmm, what is this indiegogo"
[kickstarter]|01:27 inky says, "Stacey used it for her kickstarter"
[kickstarter]|01:27 inky says, "I'm not really sure what the difference is"
[MUDhelp]|01:27 Ellison asks, "are you still using BeipMU? how is that working?"
[MUDhelp]|01:27 jenrexrode says, "seems to have fixed everything, thanks"
[kickstarter]|01:28 BrenBarn says, "hmmmm, their info makes it look way better"
[lounge]|01:30 Matthew was only a crime because the government said so.
[lounge]|01:31 jenrexrode says, "hiya"
[lounge]|01:31 Matthew says, "Hey hey."
[kickstarter]|01:32 BrenBarn says, "seems like one main difference is they offer a funding option that isn't all-or-nothing"
[lounge]|01:33 inky says, "ok zz"
[lounge]|01:33 inky got credit for creating Common and the concept of money, for generating lots of art and literature, and for being the very best at killing his enemies.
[lounge]|01:33 Matthew says, "I'm logging on just as inky is logging off?  This can't be good."
[lounge]|01:33 jenrexrode says, "but you're in time for ghira, olethros and Gunther"
[lounge]|01:33 Matthew goes home.
[lounge]|01:33 (From Matthew) </Matthew> Caught in a grab and a gabble of fabulous feet... Paul!
[lounge]|01:34 jenrexrode says, "so much for goG"
[lounge]|01:34 Matthew says, "(Just kidding.)"
[lounge]|01:34 jenrexrode exclaims, "why you!"
[kickstarter]|01:35 lpsmith says, "Wow, yeah, I made it like 3 seconds into the video."
[kickstarter]|01:35 Matthew asks, "What video?"
[kickstarter]|01:36 lpsmith says, "The one on the school monitor lady."
[kickstarter]|01:36 lpsmith says, "(the indiegogo link)"
[kickstarter]|01:36 Matthew says, "Ah, yeah, looking now."
[kickstarter]|01:37 BrenBarn says, "yeah, I'm not watching the video"
[whiz-games]|01:39 Whizzard stretches.
[health]|01:39 Matthew says, "So I try not to rag on people about their weight, especially given my own constant struggles with it."
[whiz-games]|01:39 Whizzard says, "shazam."
[health]|01:39 Matthew says, "But I'm wondering if I should say something to my friend, who's about to have a baby with his wife."
[health]|01:39 Matthew says, "He's put on more weight during the pregnancy than she has.  So much that it's really kind of scary."
[kickstarter]|01:40 Ellison says, "she's a widow, too"
[health]|01:40 olethros says, "aouch"
[health]|01:40 Matthew says, "I mean, maybe he's okay and everything, but I'm kind of worried."
[health]|01:41 BrenBarn says, "write a note, tape it to his toes, then come back in a week and say 'did you see my note?  if not, then we need to talk'"
[health]|01:41 Matthew laughs.
[kickstarter]|01:41 Ellison says, "they also say that she is so ugly that her kids should commit suicide, and her son killed himself 10 years ago"
[kickstarter]|01:41 BrenBarn says, "eugh"
[kickstarter]|01:41 Matthew says, "Oh man."
[kickstarter]|01:42 BrenBarn says, "well, if she's 68 and only makes $15k a year at this, with a $100k pledge she could probably just quit"
[kickstarter]|01:43 Matthew says (to BrenBarn), "There's still a month left...  I'm sure she'll have way more than that by the time it's done."
[kickstarter]|01:43 BrenBarn says, "then she could quit AND give them all the finger"
[kickstarter]|01:43 BrenBarn says, "looks like the main advantage of kickstarter over indiegogo is that it's bigger"
[kickstarter]|01:44 BrenBarn says, "that's always a weird thing, when the reason a thing is better is because more people like it even though it isn't better"
[movie]|01:44 Matthew says, "I made it through The Fountainhead, but I'm not sure I'm going to be able to finish Thor.  My tolerance level is only SO high."
[movie]|01:44 Jon says, "oh come on"
[movie]|01:44 Lionheart asks, "You're just yanking our chains now, aren't you?"
[movie]|01:44 Jon says, "Thor doesn't take itself seriously."
[movie]|01:44 Jon says, "and therefore it's great."
[movie]|01:44 Matthew says (to Lionheart), "No, I'm serious.  I'm just not grooving on it."
[movie]|01:45 Ellison says, "I think Thor starts slow, but it won me over by the end. Thor (the character) totally cracks me up now."
[movie]|01:45 Matthew says, "I wanted to watch all these movies in preparation for The Avengers, but Thor is making that tough."
[movie]|01:45 olethros says, "thor is OK as a background movie"
[movie]|01:45 Matthew asks (of Ellison), "At what point does it get better?"
[movie]|01:45 olethros says, "i.e. to watch while ironing your shirts"
[movie]|01:45 olethros says (to matthew), "it will suck more as time passes"
[lounge]|01:45 Emily arrives.
[movie]|01:45 Matthew says, "OH DEAR LORD NO THAT CAN'T BE"
[movie]|01:45 Ellison says, "I'd say after Thor gets to Earth"
[movie]|01:46 Matthew sobs.
[movie]|01:46 Matthew says, "HE'S BEEN ON EARTH FOR LIKE AN HOUR NOW"
[movie]|01:46 olethros says, "it will get worse when his brother comes to earth"
[movie]|01:46 Whizzard says, "I didn't watch it and Avengers was still good."
[movie]|01:46 Matthew says (to olethros), "SPOILERS"
[movie]|01:46 Matthew exclaims (at olethros), "Also, you're say Loki isn't low-key?!"
[movie]|01:47 olethros says, "aie"
[lounge]|01:47 Emily says, "pleasant evening of dinner followed by hanging out at one of the waterfront piers viewing the sunset and chatting with maga"
[movie]|01:47 Ellison says, "ah, well, it's not for everybody. it ended up being one of my favorite Marvel movies, actually, just because I think Thor-as-a-bro is so funny."
[lounge]|01:47 Ellison says, "right on"
[movie]|01:47 BrenBarn says, "ha ha"
[lounge]|01:47 Emily says, "I am going to miss Seattle"
[movie]|01:47 Matthew says, "I liked Captain America quite a bit, so I think I thought there was a good chance I would like the other ones."
[movie]|01:47 BrenBarn says, "thbror"
[lounge]|01:47 Ellison says, "you're moving to California? I forgot this"
[lounge]|01:47 Emily says, "no"
[lounge]|01:47 Emily says, "I'm getting married and moving to England"
[lounge]|01:47 BrenBarn says, "oh wow, congrats"
[lounge]|01:48 Matthew says, "Woo."
[movie]|01:48 olethros says, "CA was good because of Red Skull'"
[lounge]|01:48 Ellison says, "whoa, congratulations"
[movie]|01:48 olethros says, "the rest of it was ENH. Also, because CA was dancing"
[lounge]|01:48 Ellison says, "you were just not-getting-married the other day!"
[lounge]|01:48 Emily says, "heehee"
[lounge]|01:48 Emily says, "I know! but that got sorted out!"
[lounge]|01:48 Ellison says, "right on"
[lounge]|01:48 Jon says, "wow"
[lounge]|01:49 Ellison says, "er, righteo or something!"
[lounge]|01:49 BrenBarn says, "heh"
[lounge]|01:49 BrenBarn says, "I think you mean 'jolly good wot'"
[lounge]|01:49 Jon says, "itym pip pip"
[lounge]|01:49 Emily says, "thanks! I think"
[movie]|01:50 Matthew says, "Wait, Kenneth Branagh directed this nonsense?  Seriously?  Man."
[lounge]|01:51 Ellison asks, "so what's the timeline on the move?"
[lounge]|01:51 Emily says, "probably not super-speedy; I'm going to stay here at least through the beginning of the fall, and then move and get married at some point in the winter depending on how fast the various visa forms go through"
[lounge]|01:52 (From Hugo) Emily says (to Ellison), "depends; when are you and your van available?"
[lounge]|01:52 Ellison says, "sounds like you're going to miss last week's London meet"
[lounge]|01:52 BrenBarn says, "heh"
[lounge]|01:52 Emily says (to Ellison), "heehee"
[personals]|01:54 BrenBarn | The most private thing I’m willing to admit
[personals]|01:54 BrenBarn | I'm an Android kind of girl. I don't know why this matters. Just kidding. You can't be a barista at some obscure coffee place though. Even I have standards.
[personals]|01:56 Ellison says, "I find this one kind of funny: http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/mis/3090462147.html "
[sleep-deprivation]|01:58 Matthew says, "Okay, I'm going to try going to bed again and see what happens.  Thor is certainly boring enough to lull me directly into dreamland."
[personals]|01:59 BrenBarn says, "man what"
[personals]|01:59 Emily says, "wtf"
[personals]|02:00 Emily says, "also: there should be a Craigslist speedif"
[personals]|02:00 Emily says, "write a game to explain the backstory for some missed connection"
[personals]|02:00 BrenBarn says, "man"
[personals]|02:00 Ellison says (to Emily), "that's a good idea"
[personals]|02:01 Ellison says, "now I just need to figure out a way for the player to submit a complaint, which deletes the game"
[personals]|02:03 BrenBarn says, "ha ha"
[personals]|02:04 BrenBarn says, "I would submit a joke entry that just says 'This game has been flagged for removal. [Press any key to quit]'"
[personals]|02:05 Ellison says, "heh"
[personals]|02:05 Emily says, "CITATION NEEDED"
[personals]|02:06 Emily says, "oh wait that's a different speedif"
[kickstarter]|02:06 BrenBarn says, "here's some poor schmo who asked for $3500 to SPP his novel but only got $975"
[personals]|02:06 BrenBarn says, "heh"
[personals]|02:06 BrenBarn says, "a wikipedia speedIF would be rad too"
[lounge]|02:08 Yuri arrives from the east.
[personals]|02:09 Ellison asks, "based on the daily random articles?"
[personals]|02:09 BrenBarn says, "or just whatever"
[lounge]|02:10 Ellison says, "hey Yuri"
[personals]|02:10 Emily says, "a friend and I used to do a thing where we would start from the same Wikipedia article, then each click three times on anything of our choice (within Wikipedia) and then tell each other where we had wound up"
[personals]|02:10 Emily says, "so you could do a speedif that was three degrees of <fill in article here>"
[personals]|02:11 Ellison says, "interesting"
[personals]|02:12 Emily says, "(yes, I have nerdy pastimes. that is not the point of this story)"
[whiz-games]|02:12 Whizzard asks, "So, anyone up to discussing a game?"
[personals]|02:13 Ellison says, "I have to admit that I've been really bad about playing any minicomp game that I haven't written (although maga's sounds especially good in this last batch)."
[personals]|02:13 Emily says, "oh it totally is"
[personals]|02:14 Emily says, "plus if you're not very good at it, you can still make progress; you just have a lot of orphans die tragically"
[personals]|02:14 Emily says, "but no big deal"
[personals]|02:14 Ellison says, "it appeals to me that he had pre-described it as Edward Gorey-esque (well, something like that)"
[movie]|02:20 olethros says, "it just goes to show that it is not easy to predict one's whether one likes a movie from how people in one's circle like this movie, other movies or more general how their tastes match"
[movie]|02:21 olethros says, "I guess this movie is intrinsically bad, and it's not the subject matter that makes it fail"
[movie]|02:21 olethros says, "also, Thor should have at least maintained his Me Asgardian God Quaffing persona"
[movie]|02:22 olethros says, "and Loki should have been Actually Right, rather than a total idiot"
[movie]|02:23 olethros says, "finally, the movies badness is completely enacpsulated by the last scene"
[MUDhelp]|02:25 jenrexrode asks, "any idea how to change the link color, or do I have to give up my normal blue background?"
[MUDhelp]|02:27 Ellison says, "oh yeah, I was going to look into that"
[MUDhelp]|02:27 jenrexrode says, "i've been fiddling with it"
[MUDhelp]|02:28 jenrexrode says, "but i don't see that option"
[MUDhelp]|02:33 Ellison asks, "what does it show up as now? just normal text color?"
[MUDhelp]|02:35 jenrexrode says, "looks invisible"
[MUDhelp]|02:35 jenrexrode says, "cuz it's blue"
[MUDhelp]|02:36 jenrexrode says, "I guess I'll just change the background"
[MUDhelp]|02:39 Ellison says, "well, I guess suggestions can always be made at the yahoo group (linked to from the BeipMU page). if you sign up, I have some other suggestions to make, too!"
[MUDhelp]|02:41 jenrexrode says, "heh, not likely.  I'm really liking this orange background afterall"
[MUDhelp]|02:43 Ellison says, "nice"
[lounge]|02:44 * ghira has disconnected.
[lounge]|02:44 * ghira has connected.
[lounge]|02:44 ghira says, "meep"
[lounge]|02:44 marc commences autocaffeination
[MUDhelp]|02:44 Ellison says, "still, if they just made some improvements here and there, it'd just about be a perfect client"
[lounge]|02:44 Ellison says, "hey ghira and marc"
[lounge]|02:44 jenrexrode says, "HHey"
[lounge]|02:44 ghira says, "hellison"
[lounge]|02:44 marc says, "hey jen, ell"
[lounge]|02:44 marc says, "und ghira"
[lounge]|02:44 Ellison says (to marc), "have you been stopping in lately? feels like I haven't see you here in some days"
[lounge]|02:45 ghira says, "marcle"
[English]|02:47 ghira says, "As we expected would happen we're being approached by friends and family who want to lend us theitr children for unspecified amounts of time over the summer to improve their English."
[English]|02:48 ghira asks, "we've now had 3 tentative inquiries. does anyone have experience of this?"
[lounge]|02:48 marc says (to ellison), "hmm, i've been around a bit recently, perhaps a bit quieter than usual."
[English]|02:48 ghira says, "clearly things such as age of kid and extent to which kid is remotely interested in learning any English are important"
[lounge]|02:48 Tale explains that time is a corridor. You can't enter into time, but sometimes time can try to enter into the present.
[lounge]|02:49 marc says, "T.A.L.E"
[lounge]|02:49 Tale says, "Good morning"
[lounge]|02:49 ghira says a nursery rhyme backwards but it's not enough
[workplace]|02:49 jenrexrode says, "my manager wants me to go to an informal arbitration with the woman that is upset about what I said about the birthday cards"
[workplace]|02:49 jenrexrode says, "I'm going to decline"
[workplace]|02:49 marc asks, "wait, what?"
[workplace]|02:49 marc asks, "what did you say about birthday cards?"
[lounge]|02:50 Tale says, "Try a transuranic one"
[lounge]|02:50 ghira exclaims (at tale), "but they're not safe!"
[workplace]|02:50 jenrexrode says, "someone at work called me on the phone to ask where Vivian's birthday cards were, and I told her that I wasn't going to answer any questions about birthday cards as long as we're working together."
[lounge]|02:50 marc says, "transuranic sounds like a bladder problem spanning multiple time zones"
[lounge]|02:50 Tale says, "There is no life here"
[lounge]|02:51 Ellison says, "yeah, enough with your dietary problems, already"
[workplace]|02:51 Tale asks, "Why not?"
[lounge]|02:51 Tale says (to Ellison), "I'm too thin! Nobody understands!"
[workplace]|02:51 jenrexrode says, "it's not part of my job."
[workplace]|02:52 Tale asks, "Where these private birthday cards?"
[workplace]|02:52 jenrexrode says, "we work identity theft cases at IRS"
[workplace]|02:53 jenrexrode says, "they cards were being passed around the unit for signatures"
[lounge]|02:53 Gunther just looks like a moron throwing around jars of spiders... bitch please.
[lounge]|02:53 jenrexrode says, "yo G"
[lounge]|02:53 Gunther says, "Arr"
[workplace]|02:54 Tale says, "#tangent Sounds like an interesting job."
[lounge]|02:54 marc says, "gun->ther;"
[lounge]|02:54 Tale says, "G to the U to the Nther"
[fourcoffees]|02:54 Gunther says, "Paylife just wrote me to offer me a black Visa card!!222"
[fourcoffees]|02:54 marc says, "you have arrived"
[fourcoffees]|02:54 Tale says, "Surely you mean a Visa card of color"
[workplace]|02:55 marc asks (of jen), "so they wanted you to buy the card etc.?"
[workplace]|02:55 jenrexrode says, "no, she wanted to make sure Vivian got the card, but didn't know where it was"
[fourcoffees]|02:55 ghira asks, "what's the colour after black?"
[lounge]|02:55 Tale says (to ghira), "The show has this lingering fascination, where I know it's gonna be bad, but still! I want to see more"
[fourcoffees]|02:56 Gunther says, "the black card is optionally white"
[fourcoffees]|02:56 marc says, "and after that they just imprint a magnetic stripe on your arse"
[lounge]|02:56 ghira says (to tale), "but possibly once you've worked your way through some better stuff"
[workplace]|02:57 jenrexrode says, "I was working on a report that was due at noon, it was 1230"
[workplace]|02:57 jenrexrode says, "so she wrote an e-mail to the manager about how rude I was and CCed me"
[fourcoffees]|02:58 ghira says, "I don't think I've had spontaneous offers of credit cards for years. nor indeed spontaneous limit increases on the ones I already have."
[fourcoffees]|02:58 ghira says, "indeed I've had various letters along the lines of "you haven't used this for 5 years so we're closing it""
[workplace]|02:58 jenrexrode says, "I wrote back and said that I need to do my job, and if she needs to talk about non-work issues, it needs to wait until break"
[workplace]|02:58 jenrexrode says, "she wrote back and CCed the manager, saying I was harrassing her."
[workplace]|02:59 marc says, "hunh"
[workplace]|02:59 ghira says, ""oh, bollocks""
[workplace]|02:59 ghira says, "er, round objects"
[workplace]|02:59 jenrexrode says, "magic word, and now it gets elevated to the Department Manager, who suggests a meeting with me, manager, employee, and the Union"
[workplace]|02:59 ghira says, "in the hope that manager will reply "Who is Round, and to what does he or she object?""
[music]|03:00 Gunther | Emily is 21, and she writes about how she is young enough to have never had to go through the transition from physical music to digital.
[music]|03:00 Gunther says, "I didn't know CDs ceased to exist 21 years ago"
[workplace]|03:01 Tale says, "Sorry, I think you want #jobs"
[workplace]|03:01 jenrexrode says, "so I'm going to file a griebance against the manager, because I already asked last week that the employee be talked to about my not being involved with non-techincal pass-arounds"
[workplace]|03:01 jenrexrode says, "er grievance"
[music]|03:02 Tale says (to Gunther), "You see, time is a corridor..."
[workplace]|03:03 jenrexrode says, "employees cannot file grievances against each other, although I guess she's going to try to go through the EEO with this harrassment issue"
[lounge]|03:03 olethros says, "CSB"
[lounge]|03:03 olethros has ordered three mega-generators to be installed in his boathouse.
[TV]|03:04 Tale asks (of ghira), "There are audio plays???"
[workplace]|03:04 jenrexrode says, "I guess I need training, because I don't see what part of "leave me out of this" is harrassment"
[TV]|03:04 ghira says, "big finish? I believe so"
[TV]|03:04 Gunther asks, "Doctor Who audio plays?"
[workplace]|03:04 ghira says, "neither do I. I woul dlike to imagine that this will go nowhere"
[TV]|03:04 Gunther says, "you're asking if there are"
[TV]|03:04 ghira says, "sapphire and steel"
[TV]|03:05 Gunther says, "ah yes, that too"
[TV]|03:05 ghira says, "I exposed tale to, you know, stuff when he visited"
[TV]|03:05 marc says, "oh lord, sapphire and steel"
[TV]|03:05 ghira says, "yeah I know"
[TV]|03:05 marc asks (of ghira), "what did you do to poor tale?"
[TV]|03:05 ghira says, "bwahaha"
[TV]|03:05 Gunther asks, "why would you hate on S&S?"
[TV]|03:06 ghira says, "sapphire and steel has its moments, but perhaps not enough of them"
[TV]|03:06 Tale says, "I hate this state of "I know this will suck, but I'm intrigued""
[TV]|03:06 (from Tale) Tale says, "Like relationsships"
[sleep-deprivation]|03:06 jenrexrode says, "ayup"
[TV]|03:07 marc says, "aww"
[TV]|03:08 ghira says (to marc), "in a spirit of total disclosure I exposed him to sapphire and steel, the fast show, dennou coil, goodness gracious me, and the clangers"
[TV]|03:08 marc says, "okay, fair play"
[TV]|03:08 marc asks, "how does the fast show hold up?"
[TV]|03:09 Tale says, "It had good bits"
[TV]|03:09 Tale says, "Hello, I'm Ed Winchester"
[TV]|03:09 ghira asks, "are you interested in French cinema at all, ted?"
[TV]|03:09 marc says (to tale), "i guess you'd have to watch quite a few to get fully into it"
[TV]|03:10 Tale says (to ghira), "Those guys are great"
[TV]|03:11 Tale says, "I watched Ep1 and 2 on YouTube"
[whiz-games]|03:11 Whizzard says, "loG"
[TV]|03:12 ghira asks, "you watched ep1 again?"
[whiz-games]|03:13 Gunther says, "ay"
[lounge]|03:15 BrenBarn flashes the "catch you later" handsign.
[TV]|03:16 Tale says, "Right, Ep1 at your place."
[TV]|03:16 Tale says, "Hello, I'm Ed Winchester."
[lounge]|03:18 jenrexrode wanders off.
[TV]|03:18 ghira says, "_Hi_, I'm Ed Winchester."
[TV]|03:21 ghira says, "Tale was not so impressed by The Clangers. Maybe I should have shown him and episode with the iron chicken and/or the froglets"
[TV]|03:21 ghira says, "er an episode"
[TV]|03:22 Tale says, "There should always be a reason to come back, old chap."
[TV]|03:22 ghira says, "indeed"
[TV]|03:24 Gunther says, "not impressed by the clangers"
[TV]|03:24 Gunther says, "well I guess he's too young to have seen then 70s"
[TV]|03:24 Gunther says, "and 80s"
[TV]|03:27 Tale says, "He was born in the 80s"
[TV]|03:28 Gunther says, "precisely"
[TV]|03:29 ghira asks, "However, given that the Master was impressed by the Clangers, perhaps Tale will watch some more, eh?"
[lounge]|03:29 Ellison goes back to Squeamhurst..
[lounge]|03:29 * Ellison has disconnected.
[TV]|03:29 ghira says, "though on that basis he'd need to watch the Teletubbies so hmm"
[TV]|03:30 Tale says (to ghira), "Good god, man"
[TV]|03:30 ghira says, "yeah, so not a valid line of reasoning, clearly"
[TV]|03:30 Tale says, "There is a radio show here, where the landlord uses mock insults towards his tenants, with one being ;: "Ihr Teletubbiezurueckwinker""
[TV]|03:31 Tale says, "Which translates to "Person who waves back at the teletubbies""
[TV]|03:31 Gunther says, "snrk"
[TV]|03:31 ghira says, "heh"
[TV]|03:31 Gunther says, "here we just use the word "Hitler""
[TV]|03:32 Tale says, "I also like Nudelpudel, which is non-sensically, but nicely translates to "Noodlepoodle" </obvious>"
[news]|03:32 marc |
[lounge]|03:32 marc | The police chief who sparked outrage by releasing accused murderer George Zimmerman without charge on the night he shot and killed the unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin has been sacked.
[news]|03:33 marc | The police chief who sparked outrage by releasing accused murderer George Zimmerman without charge on the night he shot and killed the unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin has been sacked.
[lounge]|03:33 marc says, "er, channel"
[news]|03:33 ghira says, "crikey"
[news]|03:33 marc | http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jun/21/trayvon-martin-police-chief-sacked
[TV]|03:36 Tale says, "This claims something called Bagpuss was even more famous then The Clangers"
[whiz-games]|03:36 Whizzard says, "So, I've made some good progress on Darkness today."
[whiz-games]|03:36 Whizzard says, "I figured out what the snake eye side of the Darkness die is for."
[TV]|03:36 ghira says, "yes. we have that too"
[whiz-games]|03:36 Whizzard says, "And I've got my basic challenge structure together."
[TV]|03:36 ghira says, "I thought you'd have boggled a lot more at bagpuss"
[lounge]|03:37 Emily goes home.
[lounge]|03:37 * Emily has disconnected.
[TV]|03:37 ghira says, "the bbc shop in brighton had bagpuss and clanger toys"
[whiz-games]|03:37 Whizzard says, "Next, I need to work out my ratios of easy/medium/hard/very hard."
[TV]|03:37 Tale adds Clangers to his watchlist.
[whiz-games]|03:41 Whizzard says, "Looking at the math, you get a result of 11+ on 3d6 exactly 50% of the time."
[whiz-games]|03:41 Whizzard says, "So that'll be my 'medium' difficulty baseline."
[whiz-games]|03:42 Whizzard says, "9+ happens 74.1%, so that'll be 'easy', and 13+ happens 25.9%, so that's 'hard'."
[whiz-games]|03:42 Whizzard says, "And I think I'll go ahead and add in a 'Very Easy' (7+) and 'Very Hard' (15+) as well."
[whiz-games]|03:43 Whizzard says, "There's room for 4 'modifiers' on each challenge, so I'm thinking 1 trait, 2 items, and the assist mod."
[whiz-games]|03:44 Whizzard says, "But trait needs to be a very low modifier, like +1 or +2 at most."
[whiz-games]|03:45 Whizzard says, "Otherwise, the players will get really shitty about trying 'out of class' challenges, and that gets dull fast."
[whiz-games]|03:48 Whizzard says, "Let's see. I'm envisioning 100 challenge cards."
[whiz-games]|03:48 Whizzard says, "It may come down later, but I think it's the way to go. But for now, I'll prolly design only 1/2 the set."
[TV]|03:49 Gunther says, "I have a singing bagpuss mouse courtesy of Storme and Iain"
[TV]|03:50 Gunther says, "it sings about some snuff movie"
[TV]|03:50 ghira says, "blimey"
[TV]|03:50 Gunther says, ""we will find him, we will bind him, we will stick him with glue""
[TV]|03:50 Gunther says, "(ok, it's "it" not "him""
[TV]|03:51 Gunther says, "and it's about fixing stuff)"
[TV]|03:51 Tale says, "The Glue Killer"
[TV]|03:51 Tale says, "That movie was really sticking it to the audience"
[whiz-games]|03:54 Whizzard says, "So, 5 Very Hard, 10 Hard, 20 Average, 10 Easy, 5 Very Easy."
[whiz-games]|03:54 Gunther says, "how bell curve of you"
[whiz-games]|03:54 Whizzard says, "Math works."
[whiz-games]|03:54 Whizzard says, "As I used to try to explain to Chris."
[whiz-games]|03:55 Gunther says, "first suggestion: you have 100 encounters and pick 50 of them in the way described. to modify difficulty levels, add 5 on one end and remove 5 on the other."
[whiz-games]|03:55 Whizzard says, "Naw, these numbers aren't gonna stay tidy."
[whiz-games]|03:55 Whizzard says, "See, this just establishes the baseline."
[whiz-games]|03:56 Whizzard says, "But if they're all that tidy, it's boring."
[whiz-games]|03:56 Whizzard says, "So, I'll make some challenges more important to have equipment on than others."
[whiz-games]|03:56 Whizzard says, "Which means I'll raise the TN, but up the possible bonuses you can get to the roll too."
[whiz-games]|03:57 Whizzard says, "Oh, derp. I need to make the deck divisible by 3, anyhow."
[whiz-games]|03:59 Whizzard says, "So I'll do 60 cards for now."
[whiz-games]|03:59 Whizzard says, "Why, you ask? Because there are 3 attributes."
[whiz-games]|03:59 Whizzard says, "And there needs to be an even distribution of body, mind, and heart challenges."
[jobs]|04:01 Gunther says, "wow, our customer must hate us so very much"
[jobs]|04:01 Gunther says, "I had no idea"
[jobs]|04:01 Gunther says, "they brought a bag of Cadbury's"
[jobs]|04:02 ghira says, "tale wanted some of that"
[jobs]|04:02 Whizzard asks, "And Cadbury's spells hate in Austria?"
[jobs]|04:02 Gunther says, "I hope you slapped him until he came to his senses"
[jobs]|04:02 ghira says, "Well, it wasn't for his own consumption"
[jobs]|04:03 ghira says, "I did raise one eyebrow."
[whiz-games]|04:03 Whizzard says, "Ok, a nice even mix there..."
[jobs]|04:03 Gunther says (to Whizzard), "Cadbury's is to chocolate as dog poo is to prime rib"
[whiz-games]|04:03 Whizzard says, "Next, I need to decide how many challenges are going to be 'shadowed'."
[lounge]|04:04 Rob comes right on in.
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Current time: Thursday, 21 Jun 2012, 04:04:42 AM EDT
Rob says, "gzurn"
[whiz-games] Whizzard says, "What this means is, when the die rolls the snake eye, a shadow token is placed on every shadowed challenge. If 3 tokens are already on a challenge, discard them, then place a Lost in Shadow card on that challenge slot for the rest of the game."
Recapping 92 of 159 lines from games/whiz-games:
[whiz-games]/001 Whizzard stretches.
[whiz-games]/002 Whizzard says, "Darkness Die assembled."
[whiz-games]/003 Whizzard says, "3 minis painted tonight."
[whiz-games]/004 Whizzard says, "Overall, quite productive."
[whiz-games]/005 Whizzard says, "logh"
[whiz-games]/006 ghira says, "whiz"
[whiz-games]/007 Whizzard says, "As I just said, darkness die constructed, 3 minis painted. A good night so far."
[whiz-games]/008 Whizzard says, "loG"
[whiz-games]/009 Whizzard stretches.
[whiz-games]/010 Whizzard says, "Hmm, almost done with another 3 minis."
[whiz-games]/011 Whizzard says, "A really good night for painting."
[whiz-games]/012 Whizzard says, "BLAM, 6 minis painted in 1 night."
[whiz-games]/013 Gunther says, "not bad"
[whiz-games]/014 Whizzard says, "All I've got left is 1 john henry, my sky carrier, and 2 lees (which I still haven't bought)."
[whiz-games]/015 Whizzard says, "Speaking of which..."
[whiz-games]/016 Whizzard says, "And, bought."
[whiz-games]/017 Whizzard says, "I gave the EC 3 weeks to get those in."
[whiz-games]/018 Whizzard says, "I want to finish this navy and move on to France."
[whiz-games]/019 Whizzard says, "I know I can paint the Lees in like 30 mins."
[whiz-games]/020 Whizzard says, "The John Henry + the sky carrier is prolly next Tuesday's full night of painting, if not 2 weeks."
[whiz-games]/021 Whizzard says, "Hmm, I'm still not quite dozed off, so, Darkness."
[whiz-games]/022 Whizzard says, "I'm working on the sun track."
[whiz-games]/023 Whizzard says, "I mentioned earlier the Darkness die and its sides (1,1,1,2,3,eye)..."
[whiz-games]/024 Whizzard says, "Now I need to put effects on the sun track for the sun to trigger when it lands on them."
[whiz-games]/025 Whizzard says, "I'm thinking..."
[whiz-games]/026 Whizzard says, "Roll Again"
[whiz-games]/027 Gunther says, "you said that already!"
[whiz-games]/028 Whizzard says, "Corrupt the Land somehow"
[whiz-games]/029 Whizzard says, "Good Event (early game), event (mid-game), Bad Event (late game)"
[whiz-games]/030 Whizzard says, "A fair number of blanks."
[whiz-games]/031 Whizzard says, "Since I don't want sun effects going off all the damn time."
[whiz-games]/032 Whizzard says, "That's all that springs to mind for now."
[whiz-games]/033 Whizzard says, "Others will come in time, I guess."
[whiz-games]/034 Fang asks, "what's corrupt the land mean?"
[whiz-games]/035 Whizzard says, "Dunno yet."
[whiz-games]/036 Whizzard says, "I'm thinking that some kind of nasty token can accumulate on the board, though."
[whiz-games]/037 Gunther says, "'boy howdy, that token sure is narsty'"
[whiz-games]/038 Whizzard says, "If a location gets enough tokens on it, maybe that location is destroyed."
[whiz-games]/039 Fang says, "interesting"
[whiz-games]/040 Fang says, "it'd be more content, but it'd be neat if the location is instead flipped to some other"
[whiz-games]/041 Fang says, "maybe a generic 'blasted wasteland' area"
[whiz-games]/042 Whizzard says, "Or maybe there are a number of "corrupted location" cards that come out, changing those spaces into strictly negative spots."
[whiz-games]/043 Whizzard says, "They might be all the same effect, or might not be. Just depends."
[whiz-games]/044 Gunther says, "or they still give you a tiny positive effect with a big penalty"
[whiz-games]/045 Fang says, "I feel like it'd be more interesting to have them *usually give a negative effect*, but there's a certain rare chance for them to give a large positive result"
[whiz-games]/046 Fang says, "so sufficiently desperate players might be persuaded to gamble with them"
[whiz-games]/047 Whizzard says, "That eats up headspace."
[whiz-games]/048 Whizzard says, "Unless a mechanic like that is really adding to the strategy of the game, it should just be a simple thought process."
[whiz-games]/049 Whizzard says, "I.e. Corruption am bad."
[whiz-games]/050 Whizzard says, "It's better to save the decisions for a certain few areas of the game."
[whiz-games]/051 Whizzard says, "Hmm. Ok, the corrupt thing is based on "shadows"."
[whiz-games]/052 Whizzard says, "Some challenge cards have a shadow icon on them (snake eye)."
[whiz-games]/053 Whizzard says, "When that side of the die is rolled, or when a shadow space on the sun track is landed on, every shadow challenge in play gains 1 shadow."
[whiz-games]/054 Whizzard says, "What do shadows do? Not sure yet. But if there are X many on a challenge, that space falls into shadow, and a shadow card is placed on it."
[whiz-games]/055 olethros says, "hmmm maybe they bring bad luck"
[whiz-games]/056 Whizzard stretches.
[whiz-games]/057 Whizzard says, "Hrm,"
[whiz-games]/058 Whizzard stretches.
[whiz-games]/059 Whizzard says, "shazam."
[whiz-games]/060 Whizzard asks, "So, anyone up to discussing a game?"
[whiz-games]/061 Whizzard says, "loG"
[whiz-games]/062 Gunther says, "ay"
[whiz-games]/063 Whizzard says, "So, I've made some good progress on Darkness today."
[whiz-games]/064 Whizzard says, "I figured out what the snake eye side of the Darkness die is for."
[whiz-games]/065 Whizzard says, "And I've got my basic challenge structure together."
[whiz-games]/066 Whizzard says, "Next, I need to work out my ratios of easy/medium/hard/very hard."
[whiz-games]/067 Whizzard says, "Looking at the math, you get a result of 11+ on 3d6 exactly 50% of the time."
[whiz-games]/068 Whizzard says, "So that'll be my 'medium' difficulty baseline."
[whiz-games]/069 Whizzard says, "9+ happens 74.1%, so that'll be 'easy', and 13+ happens 25.9%, so that's 'hard'."
[whiz-games]/070 Whizzard says, "And I think I'll go ahead and add in a 'Very Easy' (7+) and 'Very Hard' (15+) as well."
[whiz-games]/071 Whizzard says, "There's room for 4 'modifiers' on each challenge, so I'm thinking 1 trait, 2 items, and the assist mod."
[whiz-games]/072 Whizzard says, "But trait needs to be a very low modifier, like +1 or +2 at most."
[whiz-games]/073 Whizzard says, "Otherwise, the players will get really shitty about trying 'out of class' challenges, and that gets dull fast."
[whiz-games]/074 Whizzard says, "Let's see. I'm envisioning 100 challenge cards."
[whiz-games]/075 Whizzard says, "It may come down later, but I think it's the way to go. But for now, I'll prolly design only 1/2 the set."
[whiz-games]/076 Whizzard says, "So, 5 Very Hard, 10 Hard, 20 Average, 10 Easy, 5 Very Easy."
[whiz-games]/077 Gunther says, "how bell curve of you"
[whiz-games]/078 Whizzard says, "Math works."
[whiz-games]/079 Whizzard says, "As I used to try to explain to Chris."
[whiz-games]/080 Gunther says, "first suggestion: you have 100 encounters and pick 50 of them in the way described. to modify difficulty levels, add 5 on one end and remove 5 on the other."
[whiz-games]/081 Whizzard says, "Naw, these numbers aren't gonna stay tidy."
[whiz-games]/082 Whizzard says, "See, this just establishes the baseline."
[whiz-games]/083 Whizzard says, "But if they're all that tidy, it's boring."
[whiz-games]/084 Whizzard says, "So, I'll make some challenges more important to have equipment on than others."
[whiz-games]/085 Whizzard says, "Which means I'll raise the TN, but up the possible bonuses you can get to the roll too."
[whiz-games]/086 Whizzard says, "Oh, derp. I need to make the deck divisible by 3, anyhow."
[whiz-games]/087 Whizzard says, "So I'll do 60 cards for now."
[whiz-games]/088 Whizzard says, "Why, you ask? Because there are 3 attributes."
[whiz-games]/089 Whizzard says, "And there needs to be an even distribution of body, mind, and heart challenges."
[whiz-games]/090 Whizzard says, "Ok, a nice even mix there..."
[whiz-games]/091 Whizzard says, "Next, I need to decide how many challenges are going to be 'shadowed'."
[whiz-games]/092 Whizzard says, "What this means is, when the die rolls the snake eye, a shadow token is placed on every shadowed challenge. If 3 tokens are already on a challenge, discard them, then place a Lost in Shadow card on that challenge slot for the rest of the game."
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Gunther says, "speaking of declarations of war via Cadbury's, it's Rob"
[jobs] ghira says, "Cadbury's is less awful than Hershey's at least"
[whiz-games] Whizzard says, "So, let's see...there are..12 challenges out at a given time."
[whiz-games] Rob retroactively yays 'BLAM, 6 minis painted in 1 night'
[whiz-games] Whizzard says, "If, let's say...1/3 of those were shadowed, an average of 4 would be in play at once."
[quotations] Gunther | Sisyphus pushing a fat complaining nerd up a hill.
Rob says, "il Gunthoro"
[quotations] Gunther says, "my favorite mental image of 2012"
[jobs] Rob says, "the taste of hershey's chocolate is so strange"
[whiz-games] Whizzard says, "(I say 1/3 because I instinctively feel they need to be rarer than unshadowed challenges.)"
[jobs] Rob says, "I grew up with it, but now it's like, wow, what flavor even is that"
[whiz-games] Whizzard says (to Rob), "Thanks. It was a good night."
Tale says, "Robmeister"
[whiz-games] Rob says, "I had kind of a good similar thing go on here"
Rob says, "Talemuenster"
[jobs] Tale says, "Gf mentioned Cadburys is an ... unusual request"
[TV] Rob says, "speaking of fat complaining nerds"
[TV] Rob says, "I decided to watch an episode of Big Bang Theory last night for the first time, a show I figured I would hate so I never watched"
[TV] Rob says, "and I watched it and I hated it and made snide comments and disbelieving wtf snorts"
[TV] Rob says, "there was one authentic-near-ish scene where three alleged nerds were playing Settlers of Catan"
[TV] Rob says, "although they don't get any awareness points for having a scene with Catan since southpark already had one a while back"
[whiz-games] Whizzard says, "So, hmm...1/3 means 20 shadowed challenges for now. Using 1/3 is good also because it keeps my minimum "add-in" chunk of cards smaller."
[TV] Rob says, "and the likewise authentic situation of snickering about having to say 'I need wood' and 'I have wood for your sheep' came up"
[TV] Rob says, "but the way they did it really annoyed me"
[TV] Rob says, "also, the whole show is just a geek-skinned generic mediocre sitcom that a computer could write"
[TV] Tale asks, "Are you surprised Nerds in a Hollywood show are hollywooderized?"
[TV] Rob says, "or maybe ironically that is how the show is written"
[TV] Gunther says, "yay hating BBT"
[TV] Rob says (to Tale), "no, just -- reminded again, and -- bothers me all the time even though it's the way things are"
[TV] Rob says, "but I'm letting myself get agitated in case it makes me write something in response"
[TV] Rob says, "so I confirmed my suspicion that I would hate this show"
[TV] Rob says, "but I've lost the pedestal of saying I have never watched a single episode of it"
<olethros> Tetris may hold the key to stopping cannibalism.
olethros thinks, in tearstained capitals.
[TV] Rob says, "on the other hand, I got entertainment value out of hatin' on it, which is the entertainment I sought when I watched it"
Rob says, "'lethros"
olethros says, "oi"
Rob says, "is tufty going to be in that francoswiss mudmeet"
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  [Jotacabana] lpsmith says (to boucher), "The first time you disconnect, the lounge would get an odisconnect and an ohome.  Then you'd bounce in dorm A for a while, then you'd come back, fix it, and go to the lounge again (in my hypothetical scenario)"
  [Jotacabana] boucher says, "Yes, but sometimes I'm a bit...well, indecisive. I'll be on for a minute or two and think of a modification to make to the code"
  [Jotacabana] Gunther says (to boucher), "maybe you should stop with the worrying and just do it"
  [Jotacabana] Gunther says, "and see if someone complains"
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olethros says, "I dunno, I hope there's going to be a mudmeet and that tufty shows up"
Rob says, "swell"
olethros says, "maybe swiss-german mudmeet"
Rob says, "man I wish I could go to that"
olethros says, "some people are going to Essen Spiel, so.."
Rob says, "mm ach och oy"
Rob says, "one of these days I'll have the means and the wherewithal"
olethros says, "hm, nobody has written in the doodle, so I suppose there is zero interest"
Whizzard says, "I may hit Essen again in '14 or so."
Rob asks, "the gist is that you're going to be slouching around those environs on those dates?"
Whizzard says, "Depends on how I'm doing."
ghira says (to olethros), "I am not sure when we're going to Australia yet"
Rob asks (of whizz), "when's the last time you went?"
Whizzard says, "Geez, ages."
Whizzard says, "I only went once."
Gunther says, "200x"
olethros says, "I have to be in Leipzig for a week, otherwise sepember is free."
Rob says (to olethros), "it doesn't necessarily mean zero interest"
Rob says (to olethros), "for example I am mightily interested but unable to commit, so I entered nothing"
Gunther says, "possibly 2006 or 7"
[whiz-games] Whizzard says, "Once I'm freelance, I'll be a lot more interested in Essen, but it'll depend on me having games to show off/sell."
Rob asks, "did you guys hook up there?"
[whiz-games] Rob says, "yeah, I was thinking of that"
Gunther says, "yup"
[whiz-games] Whizzard says, "And doing well enough to afford it."
Whizzard says, "The year Doom came out."
[whiz-games] Rob asks, "is that a place where you can hobnob with people you might want to pitch ideas to?"
Gunther says, "I still remember the fear in his eyes as I approached. "What fucking nerd is this?" he wondered"
Rob says, "nice"
[whiz-games] Whizzard says, "Yeah. All the German publishers are there looking at pitches."
Rob says, "naw"
[whiz-games] Rob says, "right on"
[mudmeets] olethros says, "yeah, if you guys feel like visiting switzerland (among other places), then I'd be happy to arrange things. Anytime in autumn or spring is going to be relatively cheap"
Gunther says, "later, we took him to a supermarket and had dinner with ridiculously bendy cutlery"
[mudmeets] olethros says, "september would be ideal, because the weather is still good."
[whiz-games] Rob says, "I guess the trick is to set things up beforehand. like hey, I'm GKW, I got ideas, let's talk Essen '14, cheow"
[whiz-games] Rob has no idea what cheow means
[whiz-games] Whizzard says, "Yeah."
Whizzard says, "Oh, I remember that. I loved that supermarket."
[whiz-games] Rob says, "Emily pulled this stunt at a GDC a while ago and it worked for her like gangbusters"
Rob says, "hey this cutlery is v. bendy"
Whizzard says, "You and your friends had rented that apartment."
Whizzard says, "That was a good time. Also, I had my first kinder eggs."
[mudmeets] Rob says, "mmm september in switzerland"
[whiz-games] ghira asks, "is "cheow" a variant spelling of "ciao"?"
[mudmeets] Rob says, "the last time I was in europe was 15 years ago this september"
[mudmeets] Rob says, "that's where I bought my famous hat"
[mudmeets] olethros says, "it's a sturdy hat"
[mudmeets] ghira says, "well somehow or other we need to get rob some chipforks"
[mudmeets] Rob says, "it is looking aged like it wants to retire and snooze"
[mudmeets] Rob says, "kind of like a 15 year old cat"
[mudmeets] Tale says (to olethros), "I haven't written because all I could realistically do is a weekend"
[mudmeets] Rob says, "I'm still looking forward to some fish & chips"
<trikiw> The bad news is, I won't tell you the good news. The good news is, I won't tell you the bad news.
Rob says, "I mentioned it in the first place because it seems like you 'n' Gunther chat on here like guys who have hung out"
[mudmeets] olethros says, "well, which weekend? Hm."
Whizzard says, "Yeah, we hung out at Essen and later on I loaned him my couch for a bit."
Rob says, "also Gunther seems like he goes to Essen Spiel"
Rob says, "nice"
Gunther says (to Rob), "I visited him in Mpls a few years later"
[mudmeets] olethros says, "you could just note the times you can't"
Gunther says, "I was soundly trashed at multiple games"
[mudmeets] ghira says (to rob), "I'm sure euromudders could look after you in various locations more or less any time of year"
Rob says, "heh"
Gunther says, "also went to the stormtrooper helmet and they had an exhibition on austrian Krampus masks"
Rob says, "what helmet where now"
Gunther says, "the Minneapolis Museum of Modern? Art"
Rob asks, "also, should I google krampus masks?"
Gunther says, "yes"
Rob says, "oh, the museum looks like a stormtrooper helmet"
Gunther says, "image-search"
olethros says, "ha ha"
Rob says, "ok"
Rob says, "yikes"
Gunther says, "museum: http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4146/5043877793_da77252dd0.jpg "
[mudmeets] Tale says (to rob), "Yeah, I'd happily put you up in my corner of the woods"
Rob asks, "ok wtf is krampus, a satanic goat festival?"
[mudmeets] Rob says (to Tale), "ok !"
olethros says, "it's satan's little helper!"
Gunther says (to Rob), "it's a pagan festival, on December 5th"
Rob says, "bweah"
Rob says, "what's so pagany about december 5th"
Tale says, "It'S when you have a cramp in your leg on campus"
Gunther says, "people dress up as satanoid creatures and punish the bad kids"
olethros says, "St. Niklaus!"
Rob says, "wtf"
Gunther says, "then on Dec 6th St. Nicklaus gives goodies to the good kids"
Rob says, "well don't be into that, weird euro-ers"
Rob says, "oh, hm"
Gunther says, "in Finland, Christmas itself is replaced by Dec 6th"
Rob asks, "geez goodies weeks before christmas?"
Rob says, "ah hah huh"
olethros says, "I don't know why, but I feel the urge to spit 'The End of Time Itself'"
Rob asks, "what do finns do on the 25th?"
Gunther says (to Rob), "my birthday is Dec 3, that was awesome as a kid"
Rob says (to olethros), "wow"
Gunther says, "stuff! then more stuff! then a bit of a pause then more stuff"
Rob says, "good deal"
(From olethros) Gunther says, "It's good enough to forget the beatings"
Tale asks (of olethros), "Is it because you want to be like Timothy Dalton?"
Rob says, "heh"
Gunther says (to Rob), "the other thing these masks are used for is the driving out of winter in spring"
Rob asks, "dalton wha?"
Rob says, "aha"
Gunther says, "people'll dress up and have long bullhide whips and cowbells and make a supersonic racket"
Gunther says, "and the winter demons are all "FFS" and leave"
Rob says, "they work well, but so does waiting a while and having it happen because the earth moves"
Rob says, "that sounds kinda S&M and funky"
You whisper "ffs?" to Alex.
Alex whispers, "Awwwk! Word on the street is that ffs is For fuck's sake."
Gunther says, "also, as long as you have Punxatawney Phil, I will hear no derogatory comments about stupid customs."
Rob says, "heh"
Gunther says, "anyway it's pretty much an excuse to get drunk"
Rob says, "I don't see no movies with bill murray in a krampus mask"
Rob says, "ah that explains everything"
Rob says, "hey, it's 3:33am"
Rob says, "that means it's time to go to bed I suppose"
olethros says, "It's the end of wakeytime itself"
Rob says, "gn'org"
Rob heads right on out.
</Rob> Find release from your cares. have a good time.
Seeya later.