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ifMUD
An interactive real time social network chat bulletin board
quotebook url database with a parrot bot
Copyright 1997-2007 by Loungent Technologies, a wholly owned subsidiary of
rec.[arts|games].int-fiction; All rights reserved.
Release 4 / Serial number 990908 / perlMUD v2.1z
    "The characters were mostly of the cardboard cutout variety.
    I wanted to punch everyone except the one Scottish guy."
         --Jearl
  NOTE: Whenever a fix or enhancement is in place, it will be announced
  on the channel '#mud-updates'.
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  "hey, the mud's down, what's up with that?" In fact, since this is
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Robinson Manor
A gracious, welcoming, airy space. Music drifts in from unseen speakers. A picture window on the southern wall provides a pleasant source of light and a sense of openness.
You can see: teleporter, a picture window, comfy sofa, Jeopardy podium, buzzer1, buzzer2, buzzer3, Jota greets Rob
Visible Exits: west, east
<Rob> “I’ve got a significant strawberry,’’ he said.
No new channels have been created since your last check.
Adventurer's Lounge
Candles on the wood-panelled walls create a comfortably dark atmosphere. Hand-drawn maps are taped to nearly every surface -- the walls, the ceiling, the trophy case in the corner. Seating is plentiful. A small storage closet is to the north.
You can see: new laundry list, Birthday Calendar, magic laundry list, blank banner, Even Newer World Map, charset sampler, Automeeter, TheMasterTheorem player names, time zones, MUD Client Wish List, banana, Anything Finder, battle.net battletags, his pants
Players: Alex, markm, Touchy, Ryan, Dave, jpt, vimes, baf, DorianX, GDorn, Jearl, Psmith, Matthew, Jon, zaphod, lpsmith, Marktwo, Allen, Richie, Doug, ghira, annabianca, Bishop, zarf, DavidW, maga, borowski, nothings, Hugo, two-star, BrenBarn, genericgeekgirl, vaporware, jenrexrode, olethros, mwmiller
Visible Exits: north, west, southwest, southeast, up, east
Rob comes right on in.
Recapping 1000 of 3723 lines from recent channels:
[whiz-games]/14:17 Gunther says, "but I've already eaten :C"
[whiz-games]|14:17 Gunther says, "also this is the worst ever flavor text"
[whiz-games]|14:18 Whizzard says, "Just imagine it set to the tune of "This is Halloween" from Nightmare Before Christmas."
[whiz-games]|14:18 Gunther says, "yes!"
[whiz-games]|14:18 Whizzard says, "Since that's what I was humming."
[whiz-games]|14:19 Gunther says, "for additional fun, I'm going with Marilyn Manson's cover of that song"
[whiz-games]|14:19 Whizzard says, "Excellent."
[lounge]|14:20 Fang is told of the death of Christ, and becomes so angry that the brain bursts from his head, and he dies. The blood from the wound baptises him as a Christian, and his soul goes to heaven.
[jobs]|14:21 katre says, "I spent more time walking to and from that meeting on the other side of the building, than actually sitting in the meeting"
[whiz-games]|14:21 Whizzard says, "So anyway, that's about the level of complexity I'm thinking there."
[whiz-games]|14:21 Gunther says, "anyway, looks good"
[whiz-games]|14:21 Gunther says, "(PS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMs9tdw-T_8 )"
[sex]|14:23 Ryan says, "#nsfw #mylittlepony http://www.regretsy.com/2012/05/30/my-little-yoni/ "
[iPhone]|14:23 Jota says, "Oh, wow, I had no idea."
[quotations]|14:23 borowski asks, "Huh.  How are swear words invented in Polish?"
[sex]|14:23 Ryan says, "Yes it is probably what you imagine."
[iPhone]|14:23 Jota says, "In Google maps on the iPhone, if you click on the little arrow button thing in the lower left, it'll center on the blue dot representing your position. But..."
[quotations]|14:23 Gunther says, "presumably like in german: jam other words together"
[iPhone]|14:24 Jota says, "...if you tap it again, it'll pop up a little cone pointing away from the dot, to show what direction you're facing."
[whiz-games]|14:24 Whizzard says, "I might change the circle around the bear to a square and the circle around the handshake to a diamond."
[whiz-games]|14:24 Gunther asks, "why?"
[whiz-games]|14:24 Whizzard says, "Just to distinguish between 'types' of bonuses."
[whiz-games]|14:24 Gunther says, "ah"
[whiz-games]|14:24 Whizzard says, "So you're not looking for a bear item or a handshake item."
[videogames]|14:25 McMartin says, "#science-exclamation-point"
[whiz-games]|14:25 Whizzard says, "But we'll see."
[quotations]|14:26 josh_g says, "surely the same thing happens in English"
[quotations]|14:26 josh_g says, "even if not as often"
[quotations]|14:26 josh_g says, "I would give examples but I'm trying to lower my f-bomb rating on Allen's logs"
[quotations]|14:27 K-Y says, "said logs demonstrate said simplifying effect, I assume"
[quotations]|14:27 borowski says, "There are none profane English examples like 'blackboard.'"
[lounge]|14:27 Firefairy goes home.
[quotations]|14:27 josh_g says, "f***ton"
[quotations]|14:27 borowski says, "Or profane ones like 'fuckboard.'"
[quotations]|14:28 Jota says, "I don't know if it counts if you start with words that are already obscene."
[whiz-games]|14:28 Whizzard says, "Doesn't look as pretty, of course."
[quotations]|14:28 borowski says, "Ah."
[quotations]|14:28 josh_g asks, "wait, so jamming non-profane words together in German / Polish somehow makes them profane?"
[whiz-games]|14:28 Whizzard says, "But, I dunno. I'll try it both ways."
[iPhone]|14:28 baf says, "That's a relatively new feature, I think."
[quotations]|14:28 Jota asks (of josh), "Why do you think German has so many compound nouns, after all?"
[quotations]|14:28 Gunther says, "yeah, but in German you can go "hurnsscheissdreckarschfickschwanzlutscher""
[quotations]|14:28 K-Y says, "billions of blistering blue barnacles"
[quotations]|14:29 Gunther says, "while you can't say whoreshitdirtassfuckcocksucker"
[quotations]|14:29 Gunther says, "or I guess you can but it's just silly"
[quotations]|14:29 josh_g says (to Gunther), "you haven't been teaching 16-yr-olds lately"
[quotations]|14:29 Gunther says, "It's not LITERATURE"
[quotations]|14:29 josh_g says, "heh"
[quotations]|14:29 josh_g says, "oh, well then"
[quotations]|14:29 Gunther says, "but it is in polish"
[games]|14:31 Jota says, "It would be interesting if Draw Something had general stats rather than just per-game stats."
[games]|14:32 Jota says, "E.g., 'you have guessed 82% of drawings from other users, but they've only guessed 63% of yours'"
[games]|14:32 Jota says, "Or 'yellow is the third most popular color across all players'."
[games]|14:32 Jota says, "Or 'you correctly guess twice as many Easy words as Hard ones'."
[apropos-of-nothing]|14:37 josh_g says, "bleargh, randomly playing with Reactable at lunch break, using a downloaded table, over classroom speakers quietly"
[lounge]|14:37 Petrosilius goes home.
[apropos-of-nothing]|14:37 josh_g says, "and stumbling across a somewhat inappropriate sample in the set"
[apropos-of-nothing]|14:37 josh_g says, "thankfully not while kids were around but meh"
[kitties]|14:45 Ellison says, "I like this picture: http://artsake.massculturalcouncil.org/blog/artsake/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/driving_cats.jpg "
[UK]|14:48 olethros | When the coalition government assumed power it scrapped Labour's youth jobs programme, saving £1.3bn, ministers claimed. Two years later with youth unemployment at 22%
[UK]|14:48 olethros claps slwoly.
[UK]|14:48 olethros says, "well, slowly too"
[tale]|14:50 Ellison says, "it is not a kickstarter, even. what a sad, sad day."
[florida]|14:51 olethros says, "so, bath salts"
[kitties]|14:52 inky says, "creepy"
[kitties]|14:53 olethros says, "cats, creepy? no way"
[lounge]|14:53 ParserGirl goes home.
[kitties]|14:53 borowski says, "The way the cat in yellow is looking at the other cat in the back set is a little creepy."
[kitties]|14:54 Roger says, "I say Mr Toonses this is a lovely day for a romp in the motor carriage"
[kitties]|14:54 borowski says, "s/set/seat"
[kitties]|14:54 Roger says, "That cat is all You put your hat back on right now young man"
[lounge]|14:56 zarf walks in through the wall. Behind him, light shines briefly through, pale violet this time of day.
[lounge]|14:56 olethros says, "speaking of motherly cats, it's zarf"
[lounge]|14:56 zarf says, "son of a bitch^H^H^H^H^H queen, you're right"
[greece]|14:57 olethros says, "oh yes"
[greece]|14:57 olethros says, "the two biggest insurers stopped insuring greek trade"
[greece]|14:59 olethros | Two of the world's biggest trade insurers said Wednesday they won't offer new insurance cover for exporters shipping goods to Greece as they find it increasingly difficult to price such cover amid worries that the country may quit the euro zone.
[greece]|14:59 olethros says, "voici http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303552104577436482002640836.html#printMode "
[lounge]|15:01 DavidW materializes out from a silver haze in the light.
[lounge]|15:01 DavidW says, "re"
[lounge]|15:01 olethros says, "hey DW"
[programming]|15:02 zarf | Computer science, which is not really so much a science as a branch of mathematical engineering ...
[programming]|15:03 olethros asks, "who wrote this ?"
[programming]|15:04 McMartin says, "I like to call it a branch of applied philosophy, myself"
[whiz-games]|15:04 Whizzard says, "Alright. Time to head into the office."
[whiz-games]|15:04 Whizzard says, "But I feel like I made good progress this morning."
[programming]|15:04 olethros asks, "do people separate between software engineering and computer science these days?"
[programming]|15:05 McMartin says, "I do find that I can occasionally draw a distinction"
[programming]|15:05 McMartin says, "One can use JBoss, the other can intelligently discuss the running time of his algorithms without quoting javadoc pages"
[programming]|15:05 olethros says, "well, academically CS is an entirely differnt thing. I am talking abou the 'real world'"
[programming]|15:06 McMartin says, "I'd say SE is the art of getting everyone interoperating and pointing in the same direction, while CS is the theoretical underpinnings of the work"
[programming]|15:07 Roger says, "Hrm"
[programming]|15:07 McMartin says, "Or, as skills within a single person: The first is what you use to performance tune, the second is what you use to work out which things should just be chucked and rewritten with better algorithms."
[programming]|15:07 Roger says, "It is a field especially prone to just stealing whatever terms from other disciplines they might feel like."
[programming]|15:08 Dave says, "sidebar...found a slice of code that's ordered by length of statement"
[programming]|15:08 olethros asks (of dave), "programming poetry?"
[programming]|15:11 Jota says (to McM), "I prefer SD over SE or CS."
[programming]|15:12 Jota says, "Software development, that is to say, 'just writing code'."
[lounge]|15:13 two-star took 30,500 buckets -- why?
[programming]|15:14 olethros says, "I like SD and CS, not so much SE"
[programming]|15:15 Roger says, "Carpentry good, architecture bad"
[programming]|15:15 olethros says, "it always consists of tough choices with no clearly 'best' ones"
[programming]|15:16 olethros says, "I don't know that you can really map this to a civil engineering / urban planning thing"
[programming]|15:16 Roger says, "Me either"
[programming]|15:17 olethros says, "I guess buildings/roads/rail are used differently over time"
[programming]|15:18 olethros says, "but people come to your city, you don't bring your city to people"
[programming]|15:18 olethros says, "(apart from Laputa of course)"
[programming]|15:19 Roger says, "Maybe if we just stick to furniture"
[programming]|15:20 olethros says, "I guess software reuse has been partially successful in that there are a lot of libraries around"
[adventures]|15:20 Gunther asks, "why does Resonance have not one but two white characters voiced by black persons?"
[adventures]|15:20 olethros asks, "how can you tell ?"
[adventures]|15:20 Gunther says, "one is Logan Cunningham, and they have a picture of the other"
[adventures]|15:21 olethros asks, "could you have known otherwise?"
[adventures]|15:21 Gunther says, "Cunningham is unmistakable"
[pronunciation]|15:21 olethros says, "there is one accent I kind of hate"
[pronunciation]|15:21 olethros says, "it's this whiney broken-voice that is not quite a whisper"
[pronunciation]|15:22 olethros says, "not really an accent, but a way of speaking. Not sure which US region it comes from"
[pronunciation]|15:22 olethros says, "it's more like a mumble, or murmur"
[pronunciation]|15:24 Ryan says, "That sounds like an impediment, not an accent."
[pronunciation]|15:24 Gunther says, "ah have a spaach ampadamant"
[pronunciation]|15:24 ghira says, "Oim from Joisey"
[greece]|15:24 olethros says, "74yo woman murders 82yo client/lover, with the help of her best man"
[pronunciation]|15:24 Ryan says (to olethros), "You're gonna need to find a video or something, because that description doesn't match anything I've ever heard."
[greece]|15:25 olethros says, "or rather, his best man"
[greece]|15:25 olethros says, "some seniors are _far_ too active"
[adventures]|15:29 Gunther says, "ok, *now* the SQ collection is $3 on Steam."
[pronunciation]|15:29 Jota asks, "Spaghatta Nadle?"
[pronunciation]|15:31 Gunther says (to Jota), "what an aarth ara yaa talkang abaat (yas)"
[pronunciation]|15:31 olethros says, "it's when you don't speak loud enough for your vocal strings to be vibrating properly"
[pronunciation]|15:31 Gunther says, "(naadla?)"
[greece]|15:34 borowski says, "This is exactly why they shouldn't be playing so much Wii Sports."
[lounge]|15:34 Firefairy eat beans. Beans taste good. Num num num. Why violence in streets?
[lounge]|15:35 Tale has two uneven arms and his first apearence was at Jamie Carpenters house. In the rising and revealed that he survived the fall and made it to Paris and that he is a Werewolves.
[mudmeets]|15:35 Tale says (to ghira), "hi there"
[lounge]|15:37 Tale says, "hi"
[pronunciation]|15:37 olethros says, "ok why is it that when I youtube 'murmuring american speech' I get videos of obama where people claim he is a liar"
[lounge]|15:38 maga enters the lounge. Thumps and penitent shrieks follow.
[lounge]|15:38 Firefairy says, "Hallo."
[lounge]|15:38 maga says, "hey"
[lounge]|15:38 Tale says (to firefairy), "Guten Tag!"
[lounge]|15:39 Firefairy smiles.
[lounge]|15:39 Firefairy asks, "Anything interesting going on?"
[rolling-eyes]|15:40 olethros says, "jeez people get riled out about 'polish death camps'"
[exercise]|15:44 Roger says, "I think I might be addicted to squeezing this thing"
[exercise]|15:44 zarf says, "huh huh"
[exercise]|15:44 Roger says, "I put it down and five minutes later hey why is it in my hand again"
[exercise]|15:44 Roger says, "This is getting pretty tsd isn't it.  Hrm."
[exercise]|15:44 Tale asks (of roger), "Are you sweaty all over?"
[mudmeets]|15:47 ghira says, "hello. sorry was afk"
[exercise]|15:48 Roger says, "Now that you mention it... no."
[lounge]|15:51 Firefairy goes home.
[lounge]|15:51 Firefairy builds the Lounge an airport and a freeway, but she, she, she ain't gonna play Sim City.
[exercise]|15:52 Roger says, "On a different topic, this is interesting:"
[exercise]|15:52 Roger | http://members.shaw.ca/beforeafter/davin/July1401/july14_01pics.htm
[exercise]|15:54 borowski says, "Wow, his facial muscles really developed."
[lounge]|15:57 Gunther was like watching the world's most boring car crash, and then someone with a monotone voice overanalyzing it.
[lounge]|15:58 Gunther just looks like a moron throwing around jars of spiders... bitch please.
[blogenfreude]|15:59 Jota says, " http://notalwaysright.com/well-to-do-if-a-bit-daffy/20373 is great."
[lounge]|16:01 Firion, in the space of one anecdote, had become the sort of person who kept a microscope in his dorm room and decorated the walls with fungal family trees he drew himself. (He also plays the banjo.)
[people-suk]|16:02 Gunther hands Jota the Your Being Halped Prize trophy
[blogenfreude]|16:02 olethros says, "har"
[lounge]|16:03 Firion goes home.
[lounge]|16:05 Jota Too late, you've already said the F word.
[lounge]|16:06 Jota says, "Ilac."
[lounge]|16:12 inky wanted bring similar excitement to Ukrainians by bringing the telepathic pig to the city's fan zone before matches.
[travel]|16:17 Jota says, "I understand the appeal of travelling to a distant place."
[travel]|16:18 Jota says, "And I understand the appeal of just relaxing and doing nothing at all during a vacation."
[travel]|16:18 Jota says, "But I do not understand the appeal of travelling to a distant place and then doing nothing there during a vacation."
[travel]|16:18 Gunther says, "ditto"
[travel]|16:19 Matthew asks (of Jota), "So I shouldn't go to Taipei is what you're saying?"
[travel]|16:20 ghira says, "maybe if the distant place has nicer weather"
[lounge]|16:20 inky arrives from the east.
[travel]|16:20 Jota says (to Matthew), "I'm saying you should go to Taipei and actually see Taipei."
[travel]|16:20 Matthew says (to Jota), "I really don't think that's going to happen..."
[travel]|16:20 Jota says, "Go to local restaurants, see sights, walk around the streets, etc."
[travel]|16:20 Matthew says, "Well, I guess this is a business trip and not a pleasure trip."
[travel]|16:21 Matthew says, "Which hopefully exempts it from your harsh, unrelenting gaze of disapproval."
[Zork]|16:21 Ellison says, "my brother pointed me to this 'Zork-inspired' book trailer. it's cute, even if it comes across more like Eliza at some points: http://www.patricksomerville.com/post/22260660356/heres-my-zork-inspired-tift-merritt-sung-book "
[news]|16:21 Dave | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToXX1zPrhgU
[travel]|16:21 Jota asks (of Matthew), "You plan to spend a business trip just relaxing and doing nothing?"
[lounge]|16:21 Ellison has appeared in three Bigfoot/Abominable Snowman-themed movies: Bigfoot: The Unforgettable Encounter, Little Bigfoot and Abominable.
[lounge]|16:21 Ellison says, "hey all"
[travel]|16:21 Jota says (to Matthew), "I didn't say I disapproved. I said I didn't see the appeal."
[travel]|16:21 ghira says (to matt), "you will probably have time to wander. I managed that in Oslo, Stockholm and Barcelona when there on business."
[travel]|16:22 ghira says, "didn't manage it in Milan but I flew out at 5pm one day and back at about 10am the next"
[people-suk]|16:23 maga says (to Jota), "Matthew identifies as boring; try to respect that"
[travel]|16:23 ghira says, "I made no particular attempt to find things I was "expected" to see though as it happens I walked past Milan Cathedral by accident"
[travel]|16:24 ghira says, "but in olso/stockholm/barcelona I wandered around supermarkets to see what was in the sandwiches, and so on. which I also did in Atlanta and Savannah."
[Zork]|16:28 Ellison says, "also, I guess the author of this book is from Green Bay, WI. I seem to remember there being somebody on the MUD who was from Green Bay at some point. I wonder if it could possibly be the same guy. I don't remember his handle, though."
[travel]|16:29 Roger says, "After 16 hours on a plane your opinion on just wandering around may shift."
[lounge]|16:30 Firefairy goes home.
[lounge]|16:30 Firefairy enters the Lounge in search of her pal Foot Foot.
[drwho]|16:30 Gunther says, "bad quality, but first(?) shot of the Wallace Who game: http://www.newcastlegamers.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/IMG_1962.jpg "
[travel]|16:30 ghira asks, "you're there for a week aren't you?"
[travel]|16:31 Gunther says, "there were VERY few people at the Red Hat conference in Barcelona who didn't ... disappear .... for at least an afternoon to see the city"
[comics]|16:32 Roger says, "These are pretty cute:  http://www.comicsalliance.com/2012/05/30/andy-fairhurst-superhero-kid-silhouette-art/ "
[comics]|16:33 Roger says, "If a bit ominous"
[lounge]|16:33 Firefairy goes home.
[lounge]|16:33 Firefairy arrives, then tries to turn the lounge into a small business.
[lounge]|16:33 Firefairy goes home.
[gender]|16:35 Roger says, "Sort of interesting:"
[gender]|16:35 Roger | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Sexes_%28tennis%29#Other_Battles_of_the_Sexes
[comics]|16:36 baf says, "Hm. I don't recognise all of them."
[comics]|16:36 Jota says, "I'm not sure who's on the bike."
[comics]|16:36 baf says, "That's Ghost Rider."
[comics]|16:37 baf says, "Jumprope for chains, flames on the helmet"
[comics]|16:37 baf says, "Dunno the last one though"
[comics]|16:37 baf says, "Some Batman villain I guess"
[comics]|16:38 Jota says, "Last one is Bane, I think."
[politics]|16:38 Allen | "Romney really, actually thinks that if you just take care of the folks at the top, it'll trickle down to everybody else," says another Obama operative.
[politics]|16:38 Allen |     "But no one believes that stuff--no one! And once you puncture that, there's nothing left. He's not likable. He's not trustworthy. He's not on your side. You live in Pittsburgh and you've got dirt under your fingernails, who do you want to have a beer with? It ain't f---ng Mitt Romney. You're like, 'Sh--, I'd rather have a beer with the black guy than him!' "
[lounge]|16:38 Tale says (to ellison), "Huh, sorry, forgot the usual insult. Hey, you salcker"
[comics]|16:38 zarf says, "if you click through to the deviantart site, it has titles"
[programming]|16:38 Dave says, "here's something I wouldn't have intuitively known...that having two programs on one monitor matters"
[lounge]|16:40 Ellison says (to Tale), "right back at ya"
[lounge]|16:40 Gunther asks, "the hell's a salcker?"
[lounge]|16:40 Fang is a veritable smorgasbord of visual variables.
[lounge]|16:42 Grocible entered the lounge. This time there was a brief pause before the mass wailing recommenced. Grocible? What kind of people were in control of this MUD? The crying took on a bitter and disillusioned tone.
[politics]|16:42 borowski says, "Obama 2012: He's fun to drink with even though he's black."
[lounge]|16:43 Grocible says, "evening"
[comics]|16:43 Fang asks, "thor can fly?"
[politics]|16:43 maga says, "but if you have a beer with Mitt Romney, you get to drink both beers"
[politics]|16:43 Fang says, "then you get fired."
[politics]|16:44 Fang says, "alt: then he takes you home on his car"
[politics]|16:44 Gunther says, "like the dog that you are"
[politics]|16:44 Matthew says (to Gunther), "It's better than being eaten like a dog."
[comics]|16:45 DavidW says, "Not directly. He can throw his hammer and it pulls him after him. And he can redirect the hammer to fly him where he wants."
[comics]|16:45 DavidW says, "er pulls him after it."
[movie]|16:46 Matthew says, "Glenn Beck apparently called Men in Black 3 'movie cancer.'"
[comics]|16:46 zarf says, "in the (avengers) movie, he more or less takes off by spinning his hammer"
[movie]|16:46 Fang says, "oh no, now I want to watch it"
[comics]|16:46 zarf says, "it only looked slightly ridiculous, which I think is a triumph of stage direction"
[movie]|16:46 Fang says, "damn you glenn beck"
[movie]|16:46 Grocible asks, "what does that mean?"
[movie]|16:46 Fang says, "damn yoooou"
[movie]|16:46 Matthew says (to Grocible), "He really, really hated it, apparently."
[movie]|16:47 Grocible says, "I see"
[movie]|16:47 Gunther says, "I haven't seen it but I'm going to have to agree with Beck anyway"
[lounge]|16:49 Nitku leaves.
[movie]|16:50 Tale says, "It's sort of mediocre, damn you."
[college]|16:52 katre says, "eep!"
[college]|16:52 katre says, "classes start next week"
[college]|16:52 katre says, "so much for my pre-summer break!"
[movie]|16:52 Gunther says, "yes but then you like doom 3 so"
[movie]|16:53 Grocible says, "I have no interest in seeing it. Though if I'm on a plane and it's an option I suppose I might"
[college]|16:53 olethros asks, "summer school?"
[movie]|16:53 baf says, "Like cancer, it is mediocre but can be enjoyable if you're in the right mood."
[college]|16:54 katre says, "continuing the MS program"
[college]|16:55 (from Matthew) katre says, "my plan is to convince them to rename it Windows Duchess"
[college]|16:56 katre says, "har har"
[college]|16:57 Gunther says, "impossible, katre's house has more than one window"
[npr]|16:59 borowski says, "Woo hoo! I'm going to see A Prairie Home Companion live!"
[apropos-of-nothing]|16:59 Gunther says, " http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/294/231/2f9.gif "
[apropos-of-nothing]|17:00 Roger says, "Good use of channel"
[lounge]|17:00 borowski says, "Time to get myself outside."
[lounge]|17:01 borowski's corporeal form was TP'ed while he was astral projecting.
[lounge]|17:01 * borowski has disconnected.
[web-toons]|17:03 olethros says, "#drmcninj BANISHPOOF"
[lounge]|17:03 Grocible says, "hey, news from Amercia"
[lounge]|17:05 Tale is fired from breathing.
[lounge]|17:05 * Tale has disconnected.
[lounge]|17:06 Gunther asks, "...yes?"
[card-games]|17:06 Allen | http://cardsagainsthumanity.com/
[card-games]|17:08 inky says, "I guess apples to apples isn't original itself so they can hardly get huffy"
[lounge]|17:12 olethros has ordered three mega-generators to be installed in his boathouse.
[lounge]|17:13 Grocible says, " http://distilleryimage0.instagram.com/bb3eddf8aa5611e1a92a1231381b6f02_7.jpg "
[housing]|17:13 GDorn says, "home insurance salesmen basically only have one thing to do, given that it's a mandatory service that I must buy.  They have to sit on their asses, get emailed quote requests, and respond with quotes."
[housing]|17:14 GDorn says, "so far, at least a third of them have failed to do even that much.  two of them misread the quote request and are offering to sell me insurance on my current place instead of the house we're buying."
[housing]|17:14 GDorn says, "most fail to provide quotes and just want a callback, which, no, fuck that."
[housing]|17:15 GDorn says, "out of about a dozen, only two actually provided a quote.  they're from the same company (state farm) and they're competing with each other for some reason."
[housing]|17:15 Roger asks, "Hrm aren't there insurance brokers and stuff that'll do all this nonsense?"
[housing]|17:16 GDorn says, "in theory, but either none of them actually use the internet or my google-fu is failing"
[housing]|17:17 Roger says, "Ah.  It's not anything I've looked into myself."
[html]|17:18 inky asks, "anyone know what the current state of things is if I want to test a site in IE 7 on windows 7?"
[html]|17:18 inky says, "(I have windows 7, it has IE 9 installed, I don't want to uninstall it)"
[html]|17:19 K-Y says, "first, make it HTML 7 compliant"
[html]|17:19 Roger says, "I'll pray for you"
[lounge]|17:20 Fang is told of the death of Christ, and becomes so angry that the brain bursts from his head, and he dies. The blood from the wound baptises him as a Christian, and his soul goes to heaven.
[html]|17:20 inky says, "hee hee"
[lounge]|17:21 olethros was so annoyed he sat down and angrily wobbled his jowls for a full 45 minutes.
[lounge]|17:21 olethros says, "re"
[adventures]|17:24 Jota says, "$233,000 more in only twelve days... not looking promising."
[adventures]|17:25 Jota says, "I wonder what they'll do if this fails, given that they've already been working on the project."
[adventures]|17:25 Gunther says, "Grim Dawn made 100K in one day"
[adventures]|17:25 Gunther says, "I presume 'another kickstarter' or 'indiegogo'"
[adventures]|17:26 Matthew asks, "What is this?"
[adventures]|17:26 Jota says (to Matthew), "The Two Guys From Andromeda -- the creators of Space Quest -- have a kickstarter for a new adventure game."
[adventures]|17:26 Jota says, " http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/spaceventure/two-guys-spaceventure-by-the-creators-of-space-que "
[security]|17:27 olethros | http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2012/05/backdoor_found.html
[adventures]|17:27 Matthew says, "Oh yeah, this."
[adventures]|17:30 GDorn says, "well, I was holding off for no good reason, but just pledged $30."
[adventures]|17:31 Gunther . o O ( doesn't Matthew have $50,000 he doesn't know what to do with? )
[adventures]|17:31 Jota says, "Ha ha."
[adventures]|17:31 Matthew says (to Gunther), "I might as well donate $100,000 given how unlikely it is this is going to happen."
[adventures]|17:32 Jota exclaims, "He could get rights to make up *five* death sequences!"
[adventures]|17:32 Gunther says (to Matthew), "Not, as you might say, with THAT attitude"
[writing]|17:34 olethros | #politics | http://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/mitt-romney-writes-erotic-fiction-about-himself
[zarfplan]|17:34 zarf says, "hey, putting a differential display switch into plotex makes it *way* more useful"
[adventures]|17:35 Jota says, "It's a little more than halfway to both the deadline and the goal. So it's not implausible for it to finish. But it'd require that the rate of backing go up a little between now and the end, whereas I suspect project backing usually tapers off toward the end."
[zarfplan]|17:35 zarf says, "ie, just showing the differences between displayed states"
[adventures]|17:35 Gunther asks (of Jota), "but it doesn't?"
[adventures]|17:35 Gunther says, "er, s/?/!/"
[writing]|17:35 inky says, "now there is a link I am going to regret clicking on"
[adventures]|17:35 Jota asks, "No?"
[adventures]|17:35 Gunther says, "there's always a final rush, sometimes an insane one"
[adventures]|17:35 Jota says, "Huh."
[adventures]|17:35 Gunther says, "give me a moment"
[adventures]|17:35 Jota says, "I thought most projects got their biggest days near the beginning."
[adventures]|17:35 Gunther says, " http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/crateentertainment/grim-dawn/ "
[adventures]|17:36 Jota says, "(You're not going to cite Gr-- ha ha.)"
[adventures]|17:36 Gunther says, "that's one. I'll cite others."
[adventures]|17:37 Gunther says, "ah, crap, TAKEDOWN has no data"
[adventures]|17:37 Gunther says, "but it made > 100K on the last few days, too"
[adventures]|17:37 Gunther says, " http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/1005365109/jane-jensens-pinkerton-road-2012-2013-csg "
[lounge]|17:38 Grocible goes home.
[lounge]|17:38 * Grocible has disconnected.
[adventures]|17:38 Gunther says, " http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/stoic/the-banner-saga "
[adventures]|17:38 Jota says, "Here's hoping the same thing happens here, then."
[adventures]|17:39 Gunther says, "yeah"
[adventures]|17:39 Gunther says, "although I'm just deluding us"
[adventures]|17:39 Jota says, "I admit I do wonder ho much graphs like that are skewed by the fact that they're the projects that were successful."
[adventures]|17:39 Gunther says, "that might be part of it"
[writing]|17:39 olethros says, "also, Amercia"
[writing]|17:40 olethros says, "sounds a bit like a fantasy novel land"
[adventures]|17:40 Gunther says, "people only backing after it's been successful for no discernable reason"
[adventures]|17:40 Gunther says, "and stretch goals"
[adventures]|17:40 Gunther says, "but Takedown got like 80% funded in the last 2-3 days"
[adventures]|17:40 olethros says, "peculiar"
[adventures]|17:41 Gunther says, "much to my chagrin"
[lounge]|17:41 olethros says, "z"
[lounge]|17:41 olethros has ordered three mega-generators to be installed in his boathouse.
[history]|17:41 Gunther | I did a night class on the Borgias a couple of years ago, just when the first series of that was airing. The professor was able to point out 5 historical inaccuracies in the opening credits alone, as I recall. (And yes, one was Rodrigo not being fat.)
[history]|17:43 inky says, "ha ha"
[history]|17:44 Gunther says, "(two others were 'clothing' and 'St. Peter's Basilica did not exist')"
[adventures]|17:45 Jota says (to Gunther), "I was thinking more that if you randomly picked a hundred kickstarters, there would be a large correlation between 'got a bunch of money at the end' and 'met its goal'."
[history]|17:46 Allen says, "clothing not invented until the 17c"
[history]|17:46 Gunther says, "well, we all know Rodrigo Borgia was the King in the New Clothes"
[adventures]|17:46 Jota says, "I.e., it could be that 90% of kickstarters don't get a bunch of money at the end, but 90% of kickstarters also don't reach their goals, and the 10% that do just happen to mostly overlap with the 10% that do."
[lounge]|17:46 inky heads east.
[history]|17:46 Gunther says, "also if you missed it earlier:"
[history]|17:46 Gunther | I couldn't help but to be slightly amused when you mentioned Joffre Borgia being married to someone named Sancia/Sancha.
[adventures]|17:47 Gunther says, "true"
[adventures]|17:47 Gunther says, "I guess there are numerous reasons to wait until the last moment"
[adventures]|17:47 Gunther says, "like, eg, paycheck"
[lounge]|17:47 josh_g will call him Pootel; Henry Pootel for short.
[adventures]|17:47 Jota says, "Or procrastination."
[history]|17:48 Roger says, "Ol' Dirty Sancha, they used to call her."
[adventures]|17:48 Gunther says, "or that."
[history]|17:48 Gunther says (to Roger), "not quite what this aims at but heh"
[history]|17:50 Roger says, "Well yes"
[writing]|17:50 McMartin says, "It's like Caelondia"
[history]|17:50 Jota says, "Erm. I don't get it."
[history]|17:50 Gunther says, "hey, Joffre Borgia also looks like someone you'd perma-smack"
[history]|17:50 Gunther asks (of Jota), "does the name Joffrey Baratheon/Lannister ring a bell?"
[history]|17:51 Gunther asks, "and/or Sansa Stark?"
[history]|17:53 Jota asks, "Should it?"
[lounge]|17:53 inky arrives from the east.
[history]|17:53 Gunther says, "well, if not, you can't get it"
[history]|17:53 Jota googles. "Oh. I see."
[history]|17:53 Jota says, "I am not so ashamed as I feared I'd need be."
[history]|17:53 Gunther says, "but basically George R. R. Martin based two characters from Song of Ice and Fire on these two"
[history]|17:54 Gunther says, "well, you should be ashamed you didn't read or watch the series!"
[history]|17:54 (from inky) Jota says "Because I'm not a NERD"
[photo]|17:56 Gunther says, "ok, this is interesting. http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/your-shot/manipulation "
[photo]|17:56 Gunther | SOLARIZATION, MEZZOTINT, DUOTONE, ETC.: No. If you use one of the myriad alteration "filters" available in your digital photo software, please stop.
[facebook]|17:57 inky says (to Jota), "it seems like you have a lot more colors than I do in draw something"
[facebook]|17:57 inky asks, "did you already buy some extras?"
[facebook]|17:58 Jota says, "Yeah."
[apple-sux]|17:58 Gunther says, "jesus christ"
[apple-sux]|17:58 Gunther says, "literally"
[apple-sux]|17:58 Gunther |  Aaron Sorkin, who is writing an upcoming film about Steve Jobs, said he will write the lead character as if Jobs were writing a letter to God on why he should be allowed into heaven.
[facebook]|17:58 Jota says, "Apparently playing for a few days and trying to pick hard words gives you enough to buy oen color pack."
[apple-sux]|17:58 Gunther says, ""I have been an obsessed control-freak asshole all my life. May I come in?" "Do you repent?" "Yes" "Then yes""
[facebook]|17:58 inky says, "hmm"
[facebook]|17:58 Jota says, "(Which are sneakily hidden inside the drawing screen, rather than in the 'shop' screen.)"
[facebook]|17:59 inky says, "I think I'm up like 90 coins in three days, so I guess that is about right"
[facebook]|17:59 Jota says, "I think it was around 270ish to buy a color pack."
[facebook]|17:59 Jota says, "And there's one that's got pretty much everything I wanted -- green, purple, tan, grey, orange."
[facebook]|17:59 Gunther says, "surely you can pay with real money though"
[photo]|18:00 Roger says, "Please don't move the Pyramids closer together because we already tried that"
[movie]|18:00 inky | And if you're having trouble getting your friends to watch it [The Prestige], tell them it's Batman vs. Wolverine, with David Bowie as Tesla. That usually works.
[facebook]|18:00 inky says, "oh sure"
[facebook]|18:00 Gunther says, "by can I mean could because I sure hope"
[facebook]|18:00 inky says, "just upgrading to the paid version for $2 gives you 200 coins"
[facebook]|18:00 Jota says (to Gunther), "You use the in-game points/currency to buy colors, but you can buy the in-game points/currency with real money."
[movie]|18:00 Roger says, "I liked it more than I was expecting to"
[movie]|18:01 Gunther says, "The Prestige is pretty well put-together"
[movie]|18:01 Roger says, "It didn't help that another period magician piece came out at almost exactly the same time"
[movie]|18:01 Gunther says, "and you can see that if you re-watch it"
[facebook]|18:01 Jota says (to inky), "I assume that if you'd had access to grey, you would have drawn that totally differently."
[facebook]|18:02 Gunther says (to Jota), "right"
[facebook]|18:02 Jota says (to Gunther), "But, totally not necessary. One color pack is plenty, IMO, and it doesn't take that long to earn enough to buy that one."
[facebook]|18:03 Gunther says, "again, right"
[facebook]|18:03 Gunther says, "which is why I hope nobody's actually buying anything"
[facebook]|18:04 inky says (to Jota), "I asked because I was jealous of your fruit picture"
[facebook]|18:04 Jota says, "Yeah, that was pretty nice."
[facebook]|18:05 Jota says, "I had to turn down opportunities to draw 'hulk' back when I didn't have access to purple or green."
[facebook]|18:05 inky says, "you could have drawn red hulk!"
[facebook]|18:06 Jota says, "Hmm. The way it speeds up the guessing makes it look like people sometimes give up before they've even seen the whole drawing, although I hope that's not true."
[quotebooks]|18:06 * McMartin has joined the channel.
[facebook]|18:07 inky says, "I guess theoretically some people might be *only* playing for coins"
[facebook]|18:07 inky says, "and so they start a game, see if their opponent is the kind of person who writes the word instead of drawing it, and quits if not"
[facebook]|18:07 Jota says, "I've also seen people appear to guess the answer before it's actually drawn the bits that have anything to do with the answer."
[facebook]|18:07 Jota says, "But, yeah, could be impatience."
[apropos-of-nothing]|18:08 inky |
[apropos-of-nothing]|18:08 inky | If a family is on a tight budget, I don't mind letting them forgo the cortege or hauling their own flowers. It's when you get into areas like digging their own graves that you run into trouble. Too deep, not deep enough, and once a shallow pit, fifteen feet across. People aren't great at following directions.
[facebook]|18:08 inky says (to Jota), "well, I definitely see that"
[facebook]|18:09 inky says, "and assume it is people just anagramming the letters"
[facebook]|18:09 Gunther asks, "presumably using the anagram server?"
[facebook]|18:10 Jota says (to Gunther), "That would take more time than watching the other person draw the aswer."
[apropos-of-nothing]|18:10 inky says, "and unrelatedly"
[apropos-of-nothing]|18:10 inky | Kit Marlowe never existed and was just one of many false identities adopted by Will Shaxberd, poet, playwright and master of espionage.
[facebook]|18:11 Gunther says, "oh, I misinterpreted"
[facebook]|18:11 Gunther says, "Well, some people are just generally dumb"
[facebook]|18:11 Gunther says, "and/or trolls"
[facebook]|18:12 Jota says, "I am still considering the accelerated guessing playback theory, though."
[facebook]|18:14 Jota asks, "For instance, inky: were you able to guess 'fruit' before you even saw the stem on the apple?"
[facebook]|18:15 inky says, "no, I saw the apple and banana"
[facebook]|18:15 inky says, "and guessed at that point, but it showed another fruit before I finished typing"
[facebook]|18:16 inky says, "but, I mean, if you are asking if I am a telepathic genius, then of course the answer is yes"
[lounge]|18:16 Gunther says, "zz"
[lounge]|18:16 Gunther was like watching the world's most boring car crash, and then someone with a monotone voice overanalyzing it.
[facebook]|18:16 Jota asks, "But I mean, are you a tele -- DEAR GOD HOW DID YOU DO THAT?"
[facebook]|18:16 lpsmith says, "Yay"
[facebook]|18:17 inky says, "hee hee"
[lpRPG]|18:20 lpsmith says, "OK, I knew I should have written this up sooner ;-)"
[lpRPG]|18:21 inky asks, "the story so far?"
[lpRPG]|18:21 lpsmith says, "Yeah."
[lpRPG]|18:21 inky says, "I remember there were some crimson hawks"
[lpRPG]|18:21 inky says, "who used fire and lightning"
[lpRPG]|18:22 inky says, "I don't remember anyone's names but I expect you ticked them off on your sheet"
[lpRPG]|18:22 lpsmith asks, "Let's see; the drugged guy told you the next time the portal would open, and that you needed runestones; did he mention anything else?"
[lpRPG]|18:22 lpsmith says, "Yeah."
[lounge]|18:22 Jota turns into a slimy toad!
[lpRPG]|18:22 inky says, "hmm"
[comics]|18:22 DavidW says, "What fun: http://www.comicsalliance.com/2012/05/23/marvel-northstar-wedding-astonishing-x-men-phil-noto-cover/ "
[lpRPG]|18:22 inky says, "he gave us rough directions where it is"
[lpRPG]|18:22 inky says, "like I think we established it was past the laundry room"
[lpRPG]|18:23 lpsmith exclaims, "Oh, right!"
[lpRPG]|18:23 inky says, "I don't remember if we know more precisely, or how to get into it"
[comics]|18:23 DavidW says, "The cover features many of Marvel's other married couples -- many of which didn't last,"
[lounge]|18:25 two-star sought a woman and found a monkey. Well, it happens.
[lpRPG]|18:25 inky says, "I think we established the runestones came from the library, although I don't remember if any are still possibly there"
[lpRPG]|18:25 inky says, "or if they're just elsewhere on the island"
[two-story]|18:26 two-star says, "Just picked up my M. Ed. diploma."
[lpRPG]|18:26 lpsmith says, "I think the deal there is that Luna took the ones from the library because she couldn't find the ones that were 'forgotten'."
[two-story]|18:26 inky says, "woo"
[two-story]|18:26 Roger says, "Congrats!  That's always fun."
[two-story]|18:26 inky says, "you are now officially Mr Ed"
[two-story]|18:27 inky says, "and are licensed to talk in stables in all 50 stats"
[two-story]|18:27 inky says, "^e"
[two-story]|18:28 two-star says, "They didn't get the tilde on my last name. They offered to redo it, but I declined. A slightly botched diploma seems like an appropriate coda to this whole affair."
[lounge]|18:28 jess's tongue says sangria, but her heart says michelada.
[comics]|18:30 K-Y says, "but hey, putting them on the side that only has Reed and Sue is surely a hopeful sign"
[lounge]|18:30 jess says, "hi"
[comics]|18:30 K-Y says, "right"
[lpRPG]|18:30 lpsmith asks, "Hmm.  Would it be very difficult to add a bit to your rpg wiki where I could keep this info for people?"
[comics]|18:31 DavidW says, "mm. okay."
[lpRPG]|18:31 inky says, "I forget if an account is required to view -- I don't think so"
[lpRPG]|18:32 inky says, "so you should just be able to go to the front page, create a link, follow it, and go from there"
[lpRPG]|18:32 lpsmith says, "Cool."
[comics]|18:32 K-Y says, "but yes, I like how the left side is completely or almost completely calamitous"
[comics]|18:33 K-Y says, "of course if they were really cruel they would have included Peter and Mary-Jane"
[comics]|18:34 DavidW says, "well, we can pretend that's what the blank photo is of. :)"
[comics]|18:34 K-Y says, "heh"
[comics]|18:34 DavidW says, "I wish they'd let Peter and MJ stay married."
[comics]|18:36 Roger says, "Or dead"
[lpRPG]|18:37 lpsmith says, "Yup, looks like it's working."
[comics]|18:37 K-Y says, "it's funny: the editorial line about that was that marriage eliminates story potential, to which the fan response was to vehemently argue why it doesn't"
[comics]|18:38 K-Y says, "and a few days ago you had the Comics Alliance piece about 'I fear that Northstar's marriage will eliminate his story potential'"
[comics]|18:38 DavidW says, "yeah, I'm currently reading the opinion article at http://www.comicsalliance.com/2012/05/23/northstar-gay-marriage-comics/ why the marriage will essentially shelve a lot of Northstar's potential for new stories."
[comics]|18:39 two-star says, "Well, it eliminates marriage potential (assuming a superhero from a western culture.)"
[celebrities]|18:40 Roger | In one of the most cringe-worthy moments in recent TV history, ???Today Show??? co-host Kathie Lee Gifford peppered funny man Martin Short with questions about his wife and their marriage Wednesday - not realizing she was dead.
[celebrities]|18:41 DavidW says, "ow"
[lounge]|18:41 Yuri arrives from the east.
[comics]|18:41 two-star says, "The traditional romance novel solution is to make the next story be about a sister or cousin. The traditional Pride and Prejudice fanfic novel solution is they solve murders."
[celebrities]|18:42 Roger says, "For two years, apparently"
[comics]|18:43 DavidW says, "Or the villains can kidnap Kyle as a male 'damsel-in-distress' story, I guess."
[comics]|18:43 Roger says, "But they can face exciting new villains together, like MANSCAPE"
[comics]|18:44 DavidW asks, "Except Kyle isn't a superhero or anything, I heard. I think he just runs a sporting goods store?"
[celebrities]|18:44 inky says, "whoah dang"
[celebrities]|18:44 inky says, "I know these interviews go on a while, but that seems like a long one"
[celebrities]|18:45 Ellison says, "ha"
[celebrities]|18:45 Roger says, "Just kept getting awkwarder"
[celebrities]|18:45 Ellison says, "also, dang, I did not know his wife died"
[celebrities]|18:46 Ellison says, "well, the nice thing is that Kathie Lee finally has a reason to drink"
[lounge]|18:48 Firion is back, slightly taller, with gigantic scars on his calves. Will you marry him now?
[comics]|18:49 baf says, "Marriage limits story potential in the same way that death limits story potential. Or birth. Or graduation."
[comics]|18:50 baf says, "Which is to say, it is a significant story *event*, and therefore reduces story potential by turning it into story *actual*."
[comics]|18:51 baf says, "Storytellers should not fear this. It's like buying a car and then refusing to ever drive it for fear of running out of fuel."
[lounge]|18:51 Jota arrives from the east.
[lounge]|18:51 Jota greets.
[jobs]|18:51 Doug | mission: "best software for marketers to create killer web creatives"
[jobs]|18:52 Doug says, "I can't even parse that"
[jobs]|18:52 baf says, "Well, 'best' is obviously the verb..."
[jobs]|18:52 Doug says, "haha"
[comics]|18:53 maga says (to baf), "and comic storytellers have such a good track record with death"
[comics]|18:54 K-Y says, "well, if you measure it in terms of making a lot of death happen"
[comics]|18:54 K-Y says, "then yes"
[comics]|18:55 maga says, "hey I've died twice"
[lounge]|18:55 Yuri goes home.
[D&D]|18:56 Roger says, "This is excellent in many ways:"
[D&D]|18:56 Roger | http://www.emacswiki.org/alex/2012-05-30_Bottomless_Pit
[lounge]|18:56 ASchultz has arrived.
[lounge]|18:56 ASchultz goes southwest to play with toys.
[comics]|18:58 K-Y says, "to die twice begins to resemble a lack of ideas"
[comics]|19:00 DavidW says, "hm. I wonder if there's a list of comic book characters who've returned from the dead more than once."
[Canada]|19:00 Roger says, "Geez, the guy accused in the dismembering case looks like a douche in every photo he's in"
[Canada]|19:01 Roger | http://nationalpostnews.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/luka-rocco-magnotta.jpg
[comics]|19:04 K-Y says, "huh, they got Marko Djurdjevic on a variant cover http://www.newsarama.com/php/multimedia/album.php?aid=46514 "
[comics]|19:04 K-Y says, "I thought he cut all ties with Marvel in a huff"
[religion]|19:07 inky | A West Virginia Pentecostal pastor who used poisonous snakes during religious services has died of a rattlesnake bite.
[politics]|19:09 Allen | Torture By Sesame Street At Guantanamo Bay: Al Jazeera Reports
[comics]|19:10 K-Y says, "oh god, they're letting just anybody draw Watchmen now http://www.newsarama.com/php/multimedia/album.php?aid=46512 "
[comics]|19:10 K-Y says, "mainly Jim Lee"
[politics]|19:12 Roger says, "Torture Me Elmo"
[lounge]|19:13 two-star took 30,500 buckets -- why?
[religion]|19:13 Allen says, "apropos country lyric: If you believe in signs following / the snake will not bite"
[religion]|19:15 Allen says, "also: Some say the devil took ahold of him that night / spirits from the bottle led his soul awry / he forced her hand into the rattler's cage / domestic violence, with a holy rage"
[lounge]|19:16 kba arrives from the east.
[lounge]|19:17 kba heads southeast into the spoiler room. Nobody has ruined it yet.
[lounge]|19:18 kba enters from the southeast, thoroughly spoiled.
[lounge]|19:19 kba goes home.
[seattle]|19:22 lpsmith says, "Hunh; a friend of mine made this:  http://www.teriyakidonut.com/seattle/seattlehom.pdf "
[channels]|19:22 * Barrel has joined the channel.
[religion]|19:24 inky says, "man"
[religion]|19:24 inky | Wolford was the son of a snake-handler preacher who died of a snake bite when Wolford was 15.
[religion]|19:25 Ellison says, "happiest day of his life"
[seattle]|19:25 inky says, "ok, but what about http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w78eXrZNkTU "
[seattle]|19:26 Allen asks (of lpsmith), "what are you supposed to conclude from this?"
[seattle]|19:26 inky says, "hmm"
[seattle]|19:26 inky says, "I think there is some error in the graphs"
[seattle]|19:26 inky says, "because they look identical"
[seattle]|19:27 Allen says, "they're not identical"
[seattle]|19:27 lpsmith says (to Allen), "There were two separate homicides today, so everyone is jumpy and worried about trends."
[seattle]|19:27 Allen says, "but I'm not sure why it's useful to have a chart of rates and raw numbers"
[seattle]|19:27 Allen says, "oh."
[seattle]|19:28 lpsmith says, "They are pretty close, but I think the population of Seattle has not actually changed that much over the years."
[seattle]|19:28 lpsmith says, "There are more buildings now but more single- or two-person families."
[seattle]|19:29 Allen | http://www.cityofseattle.net/dpd/cms/groups/pan/@pan/documents/web_images/dpds_006607.jpg
[seattle]|19:29 Allen says, "population"
[seattle]|19:31 Allen says, "so, steady population."
[seattle]|19:31 Allen says, "it's a distraction to have two graphs. It makes you try to interpret things"
[seattle]|19:32 Allen says, "otherwise, it looks like nationwide trends of falling homocides, except I think in most of the US it started falling in the early 90s, while seattle seems to have had high rates well into the 90s"
[lounge]|19:32 Barrel arrives from the east.
[lounge]|19:32 Barrel goes home.
[seattle]|19:35 Allen says, "hmm, looking at stats for the US as a whole, the murder rate peaked in 1980, stayed steady through the 80s, mostly, and began falling around 1994"
[adventures]|19:36 Ghogg says, "super-belated: code hero was only at something like 12% with a few days to go before they got hit by a reddit flood"
[religion]|19:37 K-Y says, "Infinity Snake"
[lounge]|19:38 Roger goes home.
[lounge]|19:38 * Roger has disconnected.
[adventures]|19:38 Ghogg asks, "also I don't understand why project fedora is doing better than spaceventure because the pitch seems worse, but I guess there's more fans overall?"
[jobs]|19:43 katre says, "it helps if you know that 'creatives' is what we in the ad business say so we don't have to admit we make ads"
[D&D]|19:44 katre says, "I will totally steal that Talisman treasure mechanic"
[politics]|19:48 DorianX says, "Amercia, Amercia, Dog shade his grease on teeth"
[iPod]|19:52 Bishop says, "Huh. Apparently if you swap the hard drive out of an iPod which is working but currently off (in the 'held down play button until the screen went off' sense), it will continue to work as expected after being turned on until it actually tries to play one of the bits of music it thinks it has."
[politics]|19:56 Allen | The Sunlight Foundation today announces the launch of Politwoops, a silly name for a site that exists solely to repost any tweets any politician has deleted from his or her Twitter feed.
[lounge]|19:56 inky says, "ok zip"
[lounge]|19:56 inky wanted bring similar excitement to Ukrainians by bringing the telepathic pig to the city's fan zone before matches.
[lounge]|19:56 * inky has disconnected.
[lpRPG]|19:56 lpsmith says (to inky), "So, I think in scrollback I saw that you had a non-3:00 time on your... OK, I'll ask later."
[politics]|19:57 McMartin says, "Man, if I were a politician I'd go delete a thousand tweets about sandwich eating"
[politics]|19:57 Allen | Minnesota Republican Congressman Denny Rehberg has already cleverly manipulated Politwoops by tweeting "If you think twitter mistakes on #politwhoops are bad, just wait until you see the regulatory mistakes of the Obama Administration!" and then deleting his comment to make it appear on the site.
[politics]|19:57 McMartin says, "Have, um"
[politics]|19:57 McMartin says, "This seems to be kind of a thing, but"
[politics]|19:58 McMartin asks, "Are they genuinely unaware that Obama has been president for three and a half years or so now?"
[politics]|19:58 Allen | While the idea might seem clever, actually visiting the feed shows a collection of seemingly harmless political tweets that have been deleted for unknown reason with no helpful context. Was there a broken link? Was it an accidental double-post? Rep. Justin Amash shows up in the feed for deleting a congratulatory tweet to Texas U.S. Senate candidate Ted Cruz. No idea why.
[politics]|19:58 McMartin says, "It's not like he's an unknown quantity"
[lounge]|19:59 borowski is now is glorious EXTRA COLOR!
[lounge]|19:59 borowski says, "Eveningi"
[lounge]|19:59 genericgeekgirl cheers. "Hi borowski."
[lounge]|19:59 borowski says, "Hey 3g!"
[politics]|20:00 Allen | Rep. Keith Ellison ( d )
[politics]|20:00 Allen | Test
[politics]|20:00 Allen | Rep. Keith Ellison Deleted about 6 hours ago after 24 minutes, originally posted via Twitter for BlackBerry®
[food]|20:05 zarf says, "bok choy in garlic, ginger, and lemon juice"
[hardware]|20:09 K-Y says, "uh-oh"
[food]|20:09 zarf says, "later I will make peanut butter banana muffins"
[hardware]|20:09 K-Y says, "okay, should not have left this USB drive plugged in 24/7"
[food]|20:09 zarf says, "(I passed up the temptation to make peanut butter, banana, and bacon muffins)"
[hardware]|20:10 borowski asks, "Does that wear it out?"
[hardware]|20:10 K-Y says, "well, it's acting catastrophically now"
[hardware]|20:11 borowski says, "I know that flash memory has a limited number of read/writes.  I'm not sure if leaving it plugged in would affect that."
[jobs]|20:15 borowski says, "Is it professional to use colored text in a resume?  A lot of the templates on Google Docs make some use of them."
[lounge]|20:18 Olly arrives in a puff of yellow smoke, which makes them cough.
[lounge]|20:18 Olly says, "Hello, MUDsters."
[lounge]|20:19 borowski says, "Heya Olly."
[lounge]|20:19 maga says (to Olly), "afternoon"
[ollyprattle]|20:19 Olly | Press one if you are a man.  Press two if you are a woman.
[ollyprattle]|20:19 Olly sighs.
[ollyprattle]|20:20 Allen says, "I have a newspaper cutout of a call for medical trial participants"
[ollyprattle]|20:20 Allen says, "among the list of requires are: * Be a man or a woman"
[ollyprattle]|20:21 Olly says, "I wasn't told ahead of time that that was required."
[ollyprattle]|20:21 Olly says, "This was a political poll."
[ollyprattle]|20:23 Olly says, "Another potentially problematic question, though not for me: "Press one if you are white.  Press two if you are Hispanic or Latino.  Press three if you are black.  Press four if you are some other ethnicity.""
[ollyprattle]|20:24 maga says, "press one if you are a readily targetable demographic. hang up if you are not"
[ollyprattle]|20:25 borowski says, "Argh."
[ollyprattle]|20:26 Olly says, "That is kind of like: "Press one if you are a Canadian citizen.  Press two if you are a Protestant.  Press three if you are a US citizen.  Press four if you are some other religion.""
[ollyprattle]|20:26 borowski says, "I bet immigrants from the Dominican Republic causes pollsters' heads to explode."
[hardware]|20:28 K-Y says, "this is the age when we don't solve consumer hardware problems anymore"
[hardware]|20:29 K-Y says, "'well, we got it replaced'"
[hardware]|20:31 K-Y says, "oh here's a solved case"
[lounge]|20:36 Olly says, "I have to get to the store before it closes.  I'll be back."
[lounge]|20:36 Olly takes a plastic hamster ball from their pocket, steps into it, and rolls away.
[hardware]|20:37 borowski asks, "A solved case for a malfunctioning flash drive?"
[hardware]|20:41 K-Y says, "this is a magnetic drive"
[politics]|20:43 McMartin says, "SCANDAL"
[music]|20:46 K-Y says, "it is somehow hilarious that my entire music collection exists as two copies on two hard drives, both of which are in peril"
[music]|20:47 borowski says, "Eek. That is my greatest fear."
[music]|20:47 borowski says, "I'm currently in the process of determining the best way to keep multiple backups synced."
[music]|20:49 K-Y says, "the other one is a 5th-gen iPod, with a failing battery"
[music]|20:50 K-Y says, "I'm getting around that by just keeping it plugged in constantly, which I assume will get me a fistful of exploding battery one day"
[music]|20:50 borowski says, "Luckily I was paranoid enough to make copies of most of CD's. Some of the originals have holes in the data layer and I only have low quality MP3 rips."
[music]|20:50 K-Y says, "these *are* all copies of CDs"
[music]|20:51 K-Y says, "which are, frankly, probably in better condition collectively from disuse"
[music]|20:51 borowski says, "I mean physical copies.  But I know what you mean."
[music]|20:51 K-Y says, "oh"
[music]|20:52 borowski says, "I'm not sure if it was worth the time considering only a few have been badly damaged/stolen/lost."
[music]|20:53 borowski says, "And I probably won't be able to use them at some point in the future."
[music]|20:53 borowski asks, "Is it possible to replace an iPod battery?"
[politics]|21:01 borowski says (to McMartin), "Belated, there seems to be some denial about Obama being president."
[politics]|21:02 borowski says, "To be fair, some Democrats had the same thing with Bush."
[politics]|21:02 maga says, "he was smuggled into the White House in a bedpan"
[politics]|21:02 borowski says, "heehee"
[politics]|21:03 borowski says, "Though I'm not sure what that means."
[politics]|21:04 Psmith says, "it's a James II reference."
[lounge]|21:04 Olly arrives in a puff of yellow smoke, which makes them cough.
[lounge]|21:04 Olly says, "re"
[ollyprattle]|21:05 Olly says, "I got two boxes of breakfast cereal for one dollar each."
[lounge]|21:06 borowski asks, "Is it really reOlly?"
[lounge]|21:07 Olly says, "It reelly is."
[ollyprattle]|21:07 borowski says, "Hurray!"
[lounge]|21:12 nothings comes in, announcing your singing telegram and complimentary basket of monkeys.
[lounge]|21:12 Olly says, "Hello, nothings."
[lounge]|21:12 nothings says, "howdy"
[lounge]|21:13 jess snaps out of it and unidles.
[lounge]|21:13 jess says, "bonk"
[lounge]|21:15 Lucea had the olive complexion.
[lounge]|21:15 Lucea says, "Hi"
[lounge]|21:15 jess says, "hey"
[exercise]|21:15 jess says, "i pulled out a walking dvd i hadn't done in about 7 years tonight"
[lounge]|21:15 borowski says, "Hi jess and Lucea"
[exercise]|21:15 jess says, "and it pretty much felt like i hadn't done it in 7 years"
[exercise]|21:16 borowski says, "More like the DVD is walking you!"
[exercise]|21:16 jess says, "yeah, pretty much"
[exercise]|21:16 jess says, "but i jumped in headfirst and did the 2-mile walk instead of the 1-mile.  which still didn't seem like much initially, but considering how completely out of shape i am, it was plenty"
[lounge]|21:27 Firion goes home.
[music]|21:29 K-Y says, "oh, yes"
[music]|21:29 K-Y says, "I just never get around to it"
[lounge]|21:30 Hugo was a shrewd businessman and a fearsome adversary who was never loath to take credit for any invention, whether he was responsible or not.
[fadein]|21:30 Hugo says, "The fastest way to turn someone into a petulant yapping prick is to give them an email account."
[fadein]|21:31 nothings asks, "do you mean give them an email account and your email address?"
[fadein]|21:32 Hugo says, "True; maybe my email address is the secret ingredient."
[fadein]|21:34 Hugo says, "The ones that include some element of threatening are the best."
[fadein]|21:35 borowski asks, "Wow. Concerning software?"
[fadein]|21:37 Hugo says, "Or this one:"
[fadein]|21:37 Hugo | i bought your iPad app and want to use it on my desktop??do I have to buy another app?  that sucks if so
[quotations]|21:40 DavidW | Gay people have all the cool stuff from the 80's. I'd totally be gay except for the whole having sex with men part. =D
[quotations]|21:40 Olly says, "Those gay people and their Rubic's cubes."
[quotations]|21:41 borowski asks, "Wait, playing the Nintendo makes me gay?"
[quotations]|21:41 jess says, "DeLorean? TOTALLY gay."
[quotations]|21:41 DavidW says, "I never had a Nintendo."
[quotations]|21:42 borowski says (to DavidW), "Then you're probably in denial about being straight."
[quotations]|21:42 DavidW says, "Excuse me while I kiss this guy."
[quotations]|21:43 borowski says, "haha"
[quotations]|21:45 borowski asks, "It's still not gay unless you're listening to Phil Collins and ... what else happened in the 80's?"
[quotations]|21:45 jess says, "Members Only jackets"
[quotations]|21:45 jess says, "boomboxes"
[quotations]|21:45 DavidW says, "I get the 80s mixed up with the 70s, if you must know."
[quotations]|21:45 Olly says, "Ronald Reagan."
[quotations]|21:46 Olly says, "The beginning of personal computers."
[quotations]|21:46 DavidW says, "The Gong Show was definitely 80s."
[quotations]|21:46 borowski says, "Oh yeah.  Ronald Reagon was *totally* gay."
[quotations]|21:46 jess says, "ha ha"
[quotations]|21:46 Olly says, "He called his wife "mother.""
[quotations]|21:47 Olly says, "AIDS."
[quotations]|21:48 Olly says, "Glasnost and Perestroika."
[quotations]|21:49 DavidW says, "Cabbage Patch dolls"
[quotations]|21:49 Allen says, "I had a *leather* member's only jacket in high school"
[quotations]|21:49 borowski listens to "We Didn't Start the Fire" to brush up on his history.
[quotations]|21:50 DavidW says, "ooh, I even had that one on tape. And I barely buy music at all."
[quotations]|21:51 Olly says, "Pac-Man"
[quotations]|21:51 borowski says, "I love that song."
[quotations]|21:51 Allen says, "pac man was like 1980"
[quotations]|21:51 Allen says, "right on the border"
[quotations]|21:51 borowski says, "The Second American Revolution.  The invisible one."
[lounge]|21:51 ASchultz has arrived.
[lounge]|21:51 ASchultz goes southwest to play with toys.
[quotations]|21:52 DavidW says, "IF was 80s, of course. Mostly."
[quotations]|21:53 Allen says, "it doesn't seem right that the internet wasn't really around in the 80s. I wanna rewrite the 80s so the internet is canonical and ubiquitous"
[quotations]|21:53 Olly says, "Wiki says that everything between "Wheel of Fortune" and "rock-and-roller cola wars" took place during the 1980s."
[quotations]|21:53 jess says, "ha ha"
[quotations]|21:53 borowski says, "haha"
[quotations]|21:54 DavidW says, "I was a Price Is Right addict in the 70s."
[quotations]|21:54 borowski says, "Unfortunately, Wheel of Fortune escaped the 80's."
[quotations]|21:54 nothings says (to Allen), "we had BITNET in the 80s. that seems more appropriate"
[quotations]|21:54 jess says, "i used to call Price Is Right my "soap opera" when i was little"
[quotations]|21:54 Allen says (to nothings), "but there were no *memes*!"
[quotations]|21:54 jess says, "because my nanny would watch Young & the Restless right afterward"
[quotations]|21:54 nothings says, "I used BITNET Relay back in the day"
[quotations]|21:54 DavidW says, "I'd watch any gameshow, but Price was the big one."
[quotations]|21:54 borowski says, "Heh.  I used to watch PIR with my grandmother."
[nomic]|21:54 Jota says, "Whoops, time to unsub from the wiki."
[quotations]|21:54 nothings says, "(the predecessor to IRC)"
[quotations]|21:54 Allen says, "I remember the gameshows mostly from "stuff youw atched when you were sick""
[quotations]|21:54 jess says, "and i wanted my own.  sooo"
[quotations]|21:55 jess says, "heh.  yeah, i had to have been under 5"
[quotations]|21:55 Allen says, "price is right, family feud, etc"
[quotations]|21:55 borowski says, "Usenet"
[quotations]|21:55 Allen says, "then around noon the stupid reruns from the 60s"
[quotations]|21:55 jess says, "i went to 3-day-a-week preschool & kindergarten"
[quotations]|21:55 Allen says, "I dream of Jeanie, Green Acres"
[quotations]|21:55 jess says, "oh man.  we had some amazing local kids' programming tho"
[quotations]|21:55 Allen says, "usenet was boring"
[quotations]|21:55 DavidW asks, "Richard Dawson never kissed the male contestants, did anyone else notice that?"
[quotations]|21:55 jess says, "Floppy & Duane, The House with the Magic Window"
[quotations]|21:55 Allen says, "and so little used you could read every message that came through"
[quotations]|21:56 Allen says, "there wasn't even porn on it back then!"
[quotations]|21:56 Allen says, "that's how primitive the "internet" was"
[quotations]|21:56 borowski asks, "whaaat?"
[quotations]|21:56 jess says, "but then Duane died suddenly (Floppy was his puppet dog) and every child with a TV in central Iowa got a quick lesson about death"
[quotations]|21:56 nothings says, "except ASCII porn"
[quotations]|21:56 DavidW says (to Allen), "The porn was all in ASCII art, silly."
[quotations]|21:56 jess says, "ha ha"
[quotations]|21:56 Olly says, "I used to watch Night Rider and The A-team when I was sick."
[quotations]|21:56 Allen says, "I think ascii porn is a product of the 90s"
[quotations]|21:56 nothings says, "..."
[quotations]|21:57 nothings says, "no"
[quotations]|21:57 nothings says, "i believe it is mostly a product of the 70s"
[quotations]|21:57 jess says, "heh"
[quotations]|21:57 Olly asks, "Is there really such a thing as ASCII porn?"
[quotations]|21:57 jess says, "yup."
[quotations]|21:57 Allen says, "yes"
[quotations]|21:58 Allen says, "nowadays, people cheat by using ascii converters"
[quotations]|21:58 jess says, "possibly the first invocation of Rule 34"
[quotations]|21:58 Allen says, "back in the day, they had to be done by hand"
[food]|21:58 zarf says, "putting off muffins until tomorrow. Tonight, cinnamon soda"
[quotations]|21:58 jess says (to Allen), "heh.  you said 'by hand'"
[food]|21:58 jess says, "whoa"
[quotations]|21:58 Allen says, "people learned by rote, in guilds. Generations of carefully honed techniques"
[quotations]|21:58 DavidW says, "One of the ASCII nudes is immortalized inside the IF game 'Janitor'. Flip the calendar to December to find it."
[quotations]|21:59 Allen says, "in the early WWW days, watching the whole ascii Deep Throat was a trial of passage"
[quotations]|21:59 jess says, "ha ha"
[quotations]|21:59 Jota says, "I suspect ASCII pr0n is already more immortal than 'Janitor'."
[quotations]|21:59 nothings says (to Allen), "i think i made through 2 or 3 minutes of that"
[quotations]|21:59 DavidW says (to Jota), "picky picky. Just tryin' to keep IF alive here."
[quotations]|22:00 Allen says (to nothings), "yeah, there wasn't a fast forward button"
[quotations]|22:00 Allen says, "at least in the original, which just refreshed your screen over and over"
[quotations]|22:01 DavidW says, "The ASCII animations that I remember were Mr Bill and Bambi Meets Godzilla."
[quotations]|22:01 Allen says, "Bambi vs Godzilla is of course a classic short"
[quotations]|22:01 Allen says, "from the late 60s"
[quotations]|22:01 Olly says, "Very short."
[quotations]|22:02 Olly says, "Squish.  Roll credits."
[quotations]|22:02 Allen says, "hey it's on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-wUdetAAlY "
[quotations]|22:02 Olly says, "Oh, I think I've seen this."
[quotations]|22:04 Olly says, "Wow, my summary was right, except that the credits went first."
[quotations]|22:04 DorianX says, "not that short"
[quotations]|22:04 DorianX says, "the credits are really long"
[quotations]|22:04 Allen says, "I didn't remember it going on so long after the squish"
[lounge]|22:07 Firion likes a lounge. He prefers the one at the Radisson in Minneapolis, but this one'll do in a pinch.
[quotations]|22:07 Olly says, "I owned Bambie on VHS all the time I was growing up, but it upset me so much the first time I saw it that I never watched it."
[lounge]|22:07 two-star sought a woman and found a monkey. Well, it happens.
[lounge]|22:07 Olly says, "Hello, Firion and two-star."
[lounge]|22:07 two-star says, "Hi."
[quotations]|22:07 Olly says, "*Bambi"
[daily-show]|22:08 borowski says, "Woo hoo! They're back!"
[quotations]|22:08 Olly says, "I haven't seen it since I was four or five."
[ollyprattle]|22:09 Olly says, "I have to go play Dwarf Fortress now."
[lounge]|22:09 Olly takes a plastic hamster ball from their pocket, steps into it, and rolls away.
[ollyprattle]|22:09 Olly says, "But I'm still kind of here."
[Gathering]|22:12 Lucea asks, "About to purchase tickets. Are most people here going the full conference route?"
[Gathering]|22:12 Lucea says, "er"
[Gathering]|22:12 Lucea says, "s/tickets/register."
[Gathering]|22:13 zarf says, "I am, but I'm all local and stuff"
[Gathering]|22:14 zarf says, "also, it's a business expense. Not that I have any business income to offset."
[TV]|22:14 Allen | Hulu is still too good. It's been getting worse, bit by bit, but not fast enough. The video website, which lets you watch a vast array of network and cable TV shows for free, in high resolution, anytime you like, remains so far superior to actual television that it's becoming a serious problem. The only question is what Hulu is going to do to make itself crummier.
[Gathering]|22:14 Firion asks, "Huh?"
[Gathering]|22:14 Lucea says, "heh"
[Gathering]|22:14 Firion asks, "Oh, another gathering?"
[TV]|22:15 DavidW says, "I can't use Hulu. Canada is outside its area or something."
[TV]|22:15 Allen | Hulu has to make itself less awesome, and soon, before it eviscerates its own corporate parents.
[Gathering]|22:15 Firion says, "I could probably go."
[TV]|22:15 Olly says, "It could move the US outside its area.  That would be a very effective way to make itself crummier."
[Gathering]|22:15 Firion asks, "Do we actually have to register, or is this going to be separate?"
[Gathering]|22:16 zarf says, "it would be good if you registered for the $22 pass"
[Gathering]|22:16 Firion says, "When I get paid most likely.  The only thing is, I'll be taking the Green Line to and fro... no thanks to the #@!$ MBTA's lack of common sense when it comes to handling funds, and they're shutting down Saturday service on my frickin' commuter rail line."
[TV]|22:17 borowski says, "Ha"
[Gathering]|22:18 Firion says, "Well, shit happens."
[TV]|22:18 borowski asks, "Why did the companies think Hulu would work? Can delivering content to people individually be more effective than broadcasting to millions of people at the same time?"
[lucence]|22:18 Lucea says, "so apparently the co-pay I thought my insurance wanted from the hospital (really, really, really long story) doesn't exist, or doesn't need paying, or something along those lines"
[lucence]|22:19 Lucea says, "I have no idea why. it should, after all"
[lucence]|22:19 jess says, "hunh"
[lucence]|22:19 jess asks, "well, that's good, right?"
[lucence]|22:19 jess asks, "or am i misreading?"
[lucence]|22:20 Lucea says, "I'm hoping it's good and I won't find out six months later "oh, by the way, your insurance didn't cover it after all and you have this much in collections""
[lucence]|22:20 jess says, "ohhh, i see"
[lucence]|22:20 jess says, "well, i imagine they'd send a bill before it came to that"
[lucence]|22:20 Lucea says, "yeah"
[lucence]|22:20 Lucea says, "I'd called today because it'd been a month with no bill"
[lucence]|22:20 jess says, "my insurance sends my EOBs by email now (thankfully)"
[lucence]|22:20 jess says, "oh okay"
[TV]|22:21 borowski asks (of DavidW), "Does Netflix stream to Canada?"
[TV]|22:21 Allen says, "I actually pay for hulu"
[lounge]|22:21 Firion goes home.
[TV]|22:21 Allen says, "though, I do only watch a few shows a month. I can't imagine paying for cable. *so* expensive"
[TV]|22:22 borowski says, "I did a trial period of hulu+ a while ago.  I remember it still having ads."
[TV]|22:23 Allen says, "yes it does"
[TV]|22:23 Allen says, "there's pretty no way to eliminate the ads from the business model"
[games]|22:23 Jota says, "#DrawSomething Huh, that was weird."
[games]|22:24 Jota says, "My partner just got the exact same word I just did."
[TV]|22:24 borowski says, "But isn't Hulu owned by the content providers? Netflix doesn't have ads and they have to pay for the rights for everything."
[lounge]|22:25 Whizzard goes to hamstring some zombies.
[lounge]|22:25 * Whizzard has disconnected.
[TV]|22:27 Jota says, "Netflix has pay subscriptions."
[zarfplan]|22:28 jmac says, "I already want Dreamhold Dropbox integration. But I don't know how typical my use-case is, wanting to trade off between iPhone and iPad, depending on context."
[zarfplan]|22:28 zarf says, "I was looking at iCloud integration"
[zarfplan]|22:28 zarf says, "dropbox would make sense too"
[TV]|22:29 Allen says, "the business model that produces tv shows"
[zarfplan]|22:29 jmac says, "And in that case, what I *really* want is Dropbox / iCloud plus some kind of magical autosave so I can lock my phone on the subway, go home, pick up my iPad, and resume play without needing to manually save."
[TV]|22:29 borowski says, "Hulu plus has ads too. Though perhaps less that normally."
[TV]|22:29 borowski says (to Allen), "That's a good point."
[lounge]|22:29 jenrexrode has entered the lounge. [ Your score has gone up by 10 points ]
[lounge]|22:29 jenrexrode says, "hi"
[TV]|22:30 borowski says, "It will be interesting to see what happens with Netflix's original programming."
[TV]|22:30 Allen says, "I'm cleaning house, so not here at terminal much"
[zarfplan]|22:30 jmac says, "Kindle and Instapaper and so on have spoiled me in this regard."
[TV]|22:30 Allen says, "I need to get the house cat-proofed for a week away"
[TV]|22:30 borowski asks, "Cat sitting?"
[TV]|22:30 Allen says, "also, I don't want my cat feeder to books and papers spread everywhere"
[TV]|22:31 Allen says, "I'm away to a workshop"
[lounge]|22:31 borowski says, "Hey JRR"
[zarfplan]|22:32 zarf says, "that's not really any trickier"
[zarfplan]|22:32 zarf says, "it's already doing a magical autosave"
[zarfplan]|22:33 jmac says, "Yeah"
[zarfplan]|22:33 zarf says, "there are consistency problems, though -- if you really lock the phone on the subway, it doesn't have network so it can't push that state"
[TV]|22:33 borowski asks, "Is that anyone particular?"
[zarfplan]|22:33 jmac says, "Indeed."
[TV]|22:33 borowski says, "ILAC"
[zarfplan]|22:34 jmac says, "Those reading apps still seem to get it right more often than not. I don't have iOS apps' state-chart memorized (yet) so I dunno how much opportunity backgrounded apps have to ping for a network until they can connect and perform a sync."
[videogames]|22:35 K-Y says, "'we must go to the capital city; it will be a long journey through some mountains'"
[videogames]|22:35 K-Y says, "so then you walk through a single map with about half a dozen monsters"
[zarfplan]|22:35 zarf says, "for icloud, I think the OS handles all that. I don't know about dropbox."
[videogames]|22:35 K-Y says, "'you arrive at the capital city'"
[zarfplan]|22:35 jmac says, "And instapaper and kindle have their own magic, of course. As does iBooks."
[zarfplan]|22:38 jmac says, "In other news, I leave you to be the judge of whether its your fault or mine that I seem to have forgotten almost all the specifics of Dreamhold since my first playthrough years ago. But I'm having a swell time going through again."
[zarfplan]|22:40 zarf says, "woo"
[zarfplan]|22:42 zarf says, "goddamn, this thing is giving me correct answers"
[zarfplan]|22:43 zarf says, "it's crazy"
[lounge]|22:46 Dave says, "ba bing"
[lounge]|22:50 Hugo says, "Hmm."
[lounge]|22:50 Hugo | Ore-Sniffing Dogs Rediscovered By Mining Industry
[lounge]|22:50 Hugo says, "'Where did all that ore we mined go?  I thought -- what the -- HEY YOU DOGS!'"
[lounge]|22:52 borowski says, "haha"
[lounge]|22:52 * Marktwo has disconnected.
[lounge]|22:52 * Marktwo has connected.
[lounge]|23:02 jenrexrode wanders off.
[lounge]|23:03 jenrexrode has entered the lounge. [ Your score has gone up by 10 points ]
[lounge]|23:03 jenrexrode says, "okay, I don't know why I recapped, but there was some good stuff today"
[lounge]|23:07 BrenBarn busta.
[lounge]|23:08 genericgeekgirl says, "Hi BB"
[lounge]|23:08 BrenBarn says, "howdy"
[iPhone]|23:10 jenrexrode asks, "oh, Hefe or Lo-fi?"
[lounge]|23:11 jenrexrode says, "hi"
[iPhone]|23:11 jenrexrode says, "Hefe"
[weather]|23:15 jess says, "#eeeeagh http://www.crh.noaa.gov/abr/?n=stormdamagetemplate "
[apropos-of-nothing]|23:15 borowski says, "I wonder what Donald Trump would be like on the MUD."
[lounge]|23:15 Lucea is gonna get back baby bad balls to you, love, cretin.
[lounge]|23:15 * Lucea has disconnected.
[apropos-of-nothing]|23:15 jess asks, "toaded?"
[apropos-of-nothing]|23:17 borowski says, "Probably."
[weather]|23:17 jess | The largest officially recognized hailstone on record to have been ?captured? in the U.S. was that which fell near Vivian, South Dakota last summer (2010) on July 23rd. It measured 8.0? in diameter, 18 ?? in circumference, and weighed in at 1.9375 pounds. Mr. Lee Scott, who collected, the monster stone originally planned to make daiquiris out of the hailstone but fortunately thought better and placed it in a freezer before turning it over to the National Weather Service for certification.
[health]|23:18 Dave says, "eating healthier has one side-effect I'm never happy about"
[lounge]|23:20 genericgeekgirl wanders off for a bit.
[lounge]|23:22 Lucea had the olive complexion.
[lounge]|23:22 Lucea says, "re"
[health]|23:24 borowski asks, "Yesss?"
[health]|23:25 Dave says, "the details aren't important"
[lounge]|23:25 genericgeekgirl genericgeekgirl genericgeekgirl! She gonna getcha! She gonna SUCK YOU DRAH!
[health]|23:26 borowski says, "Ah."
[lounge]|23:29 vaporware swore again his vengeance, and it verily seemed that the angels in heaven did weep.
[lounge]|23:31 jenrexrode wanders off.
[lounge]|23:33 jenrexrode has entered the lounge. [ Your score has gone up by 10 points ]
[smoochies]|23:38 Jon says, "date went reasonably well"
[smoochies]|23:38 Jon says, "we have a lot of shared insterests and she's smart and funny."
[people-suk]|23:39 Jota says, "I suppose it would be tactless to ask on #smoochies 'This is the one you paid for?'"
[lounge]|23:40 Jota turns into a slimy toad!
[southpark]|23:46 borowski says, "I'm just getting around to watching 'Cartman Finds Love'"
[southpark]|23:47 borowski says, "I've never seen Game of Thrones, but for some reason that's what I automatically assumed Mr. Garrison was talking about."
[southpark]|23:47 vaporware says, "People with weird names doing sex or violence = Game of Thrones."
[southpark]|23:48 borowski says, "Heh. I guess so.  It's hard to disguise made up names."
[lounge]|23:49 ghira wakes
[southpark]|23:49 vaporware says, "I managed to watch like 4 episodes, but despite the rumors there wasn't enough sex to stop it from being just a big medieval blur."
[southpark]|23:50 borowski says, "I think the name 'Westeros' reminded me of the game 'Wesnoth'"
[southpark]|23:50 vaporware says, "I just cannot get into anything old-timey. Westerns, Steampunk, or most fantasy."
[southpark]|23:51 ghira says, "Most fantasy doesn't do much for me. Abercrombie's "The Blade Itself" and sequels are a recentish exception."
[southpark]|23:52 ghira says, "other than that, Le Guin's "Earthsea" (or some of it, at least) and Card's "Alvin" books (well, the first few, at least)"
[southpark]|23:53 ghira says, "and then I'd have to think quite hard to recall any others."
[southpark]|23:53 ghira says, "I do like Tyrion in "Game of Thrones""
[southpark]|23:54 ghira says, "I have the books but for some reason book 5 sits on my shelf barely started"
[southpark]|23:55 zarf says, "The Blade Itself seemed to be an attempt to do Game of Thrones but make all the characters just that small increment more petty and hateful so that I wanted them all to die"
[southpark]|23:55 ghira says, "when I read book 4 I could no longer remember who anyone was"
[WWIII]|23:55 Allen | Mr. Obama embraced a disputed method for counting civilian casualties that did little to box him in. It in effect counts all military-age males in a strike zone as combatants, according to several administration officials, unless there is explicit intelligence posthumously proving them innocent.
[southpark]|23:55 ghira says (to zarf), "I think everyone being hateful was deliberate"
[southpark]|23:55 zarf says, "I agree"
[southpark]|23:55 zarf says, "it worked, too"
[WWIII]|23:55 Allen | This counting method may partly explain the official claims of extraordinarily low collateral deaths.
[southpark]|23:55 zarf says, "I stopped reading"
[WWIII]|23:55 Allen asks, "ya think?"
[WWIII]|23:56 Allen | Mr. Brennan, Mr. Obama's trusted adviser, said that not a single noncombatant had been killed in a year of strikes.
[southpark]|23:56 vaporware says, "You played right into his hands."
[lounge]|23:56 jenrexrode wanders off.
[lounge]|23:56 jenrexrode has entered the lounge. [ Your score has gone up by 10 points ]
[lounge]|23:57 jenrexrode says, "hu"
[lounge]|23:57 jenrexrode says, "uh"
[lounge]|23:57 jenrexrode says, "hi"
[lounge]|23:57 borowski says, "ih"
[southpark]|23:57 ghira says, "I like Tolkien's "Smith of Wootton Major" better than anything else I've read of his but I hesitate to count it as fantasy."
[southpark]|23:58 Allen asks, "is that the fairy story one?"
[southpark]|23:58 ghira says, "yes"
[southpark]|23:58 Allen says, "that's a good story"
[southpark]|23:58 Allen says, "I'd mark it fantasy, but it belongs to a different genre than high fantasy"
[southpark]|23:58 borowski says, "Tolkien wasn't really trapped by the genre yet."
[southpark]|23:59 borowski says, "I think most fantasy suffers from not being able to do anything outside the limits that people expect from the genre."
[southpark]|00:04 Allen says, "the big name imprints mainly publish series, but there's a lot of other stuff too that doesn't fit into the big genres"
[southpark]|00:04 Allen says, "published by small presses and in chapbooks and little webzines and stuff"
[southpark]|00:04 zarf says, "I have been liking Angry Robot for publishing not-entirely-standard fantasy and SF"
[southpark]|00:05 zarf says, "it's not all good, but it's at least trying something"
[southpark]|00:05 Allen says, "the Year's Best Fantasy & Horror books, formerly done by Datlow and Windling, now by two people whose names I never remember, make an excellent job of summarizing everything in the introduction"
[southpark]|00:06 Allen says, "I'm sad that endicott studios is defunct"
[southpark]|00:06 ghira says, "I've been trying to find SF or fantasy written in Italian (rather than translated, esp from English) and there's almost nothing. What there is is almost all fantasy and seems to be terrible."
[southpark]|00:06 Allen says, "I don't really know what online resources these days are the best"
[lounge]|00:06 jenrexrode wanders off.
[lounge]|00:06 jenrexrode has entered the lounge. [ Your score has gone up by 10 points ]
[southpark]|00:07 ghira says, "oh, yeah, I like "The Eyes of the Overworld" and "Cugel's Saga" by Vance"
[southpark]|00:07 Allen says (to ghira), "everyone with sense does"
[videogames]|00:07 DorianX says, "huh"
[southpark]|00:08 Allen says (to ghira), "I'd recommend Tanith Lee's Tales of Flat Earth"
[videogames]|00:08 DorianX says, "So I never bothered with metroid zero mission because I assumed that it was just metroid 1 with updated graphics and one small new section at the end"
[southpark]|00:08 ghira says (to allen), "never heard of. will try."
[southpark]|00:08 Allen says, "though they don't have a flamboyant main character to integrate them"
[videogames]|00:08 DorianX says, "but itlooks like fro mthis LP that while the plot and the general geography is the same, it is pretty much an entirely different game"
[southpark]|00:08 ghira says, "I particularly dislike The Book of the New Sun"
[southpark]|00:09 ghira says, "after multiple failed attempts to start it I forced myself to read the whole damned thing because various people claimed when I got to the end I would re-evaluate the whole thing and realise it was a masterpiece. no, I just wanted my wasted time refunded."
[videogames]|00:11 DorianX says, "I'm always just a luttle surprised when retrogamers speak contemptuously about how silly it is to imagine anyone would ever read the manual for a game"
[videogames]|00:11 DorianX asks, "What did they do in the car on the way home from the mall?"
[lounge]|00:11 Lucea says, "haha"
[lounge]|00:11 Lucea is gonna get back baby bad balls to you, love, cretin.
[lounge]|00:11 * Lucea has disconnected.
[southpark]|00:11 ghira says, "I've read the first few Taltos books after a recommendation on-mud but they aren't doing anything for me"
[southpark]|00:12 Allen says, "I started reading the Taltos books last fall, and like them, but they don't make my all-time favorite list"
[southpark]|00:14 zarf says, "I have not found good online resources for finding books"
[southpark]|00:14 zarf says, "maybe I just don't know how to probe goodreads"
[southpark]|00:16 ghira googles "tales of the flat earth", orders first one
[lounge]|00:24 jess doesn't want a large Farva.  She wants a goddamn liter of cola!
[lounge]|00:26 jenrexrode says, "Amercia"
[lounge]|00:27 ghira says, "Jen has ridden on coconuts all the way from the kingdom of amercia"
[lounge]|00:27 jenrexrode wanders off.
[lounge]|00:27 jenrexrode has entered the lounge. [ Your score has gone up by 10 points ]
[lounge]|00:28 jenrexrode says, "hm, I can type and send, bbut have to log off to get updates"
[lounge]|00:29 jenrexrode says, "and i'm wired"
[lounge]|00:32 Lucea had the olive complexion.
[lounge]/00:48 Ellison goes back to Squeamhurst..
[lounge]|00:48 * Ellison has disconnected.
[lounge]|00:58 Lucea is gonna get back baby bad balls to you, love, cretin.
[lounge]|00:58 * Lucea has disconnected.
[lounge]|01:04 olethros was so annoyed he sat down and angrily wobbled his jowls for a full 45 minutes.
[lounge]|01:04 olethros says, "re"
[lounge]|01:04 * borowski has disconnected.
[lounge]|01:04 * borowski has connected.
[lounge]|01:04 mwmiller enters the lounge. How unseemly!
[lounge]|01:05 jenrexrode says, "hi"
[lounge]|01:05 mwmiller says, "Hi all."
[books]|01:07 borowski asks, "Has anyone read 'Good Omens'?"
[books]|01:07 ghira says, "I should think lots of people here have"
[books]|01:08 ghira says, "certainly including me"
[books]|01:08 borowski says, "I have a credit on Audible and I thinking about getting it."
[books]|01:08 zarf says, "I recommend it"
[books]|01:08 ghira asks, "audible would be an audio book version?"
[books]|01:09 borowski says, "Yeah."
[weather]|01:10 jenrexrode asks, "What?  I used myt last big lump of energy to protect things from the storm, and nothing???"
[weather]|01:11 vaporware asks, "You're powered by coal?"
[books]|01:12 borowski says, "I like audio books but the membership system with Audible is a bit strange."
[books]|01:13 borowski says, "A $25 dollar book might cost 1 credit but so might a $10 one."
[weather]|01:14 jenrexrode says, "taco salad"
[personals]|01:14 BrenBarn | Q: "Your a bitch!" What bothers you more about the above sentence?
[personals]|01:14 BrenBarn | A: The grammar
[personals]|01:14 BrenBarn | Explanation: “Is it sad that the grammar bothers me more? lol”
[personals]|01:14 BrenBarn says, "she should know not to end a sentence with a lolposition"
[personals]|01:14 borowski says, "heh"
[TV]|01:14 jenrexrode exclaims, "my cable box missed me!  I stepped out side with the dog, and when we came back, it was rebooting!"
[personals]|01:15 vaporware says, "lolposition is my favorite lollerskate racing game for the Atari 5200."
[personals]|01:15 borowski asks, "That would make for an interesting personality test: do personal attacks override one's judgmentalness?"
[dosbox]|01:16 * mwmiller has joined the channel.
[emulation]|01:16 * mwmiller has joined the channel.
[tangent]|01:16 jenrexrode says, "oh I loved micromachines game"
[lynx]|01:16 * mwmiller has joined the channel.
[mozilla]|01:16 * mwmiller has joined the channel.
[books]|01:17 borowski says, "I suppose I'll get Good Omens and a David Sedaris book."
[tangent]|01:17 jenrexrode says, "wow, I guess it was NES"
[lounge]|01:19 Rob comes right on in.
Recapped 1000 of 3723 lines from recent channels.
Current time: Thursday, 31 May 2012, 01:19:37 AM EDT
There is one new message on #alt/obits.
There is one new message on #media/tv/TV.
Rob says, "hffpluf"
#446 [alt/obits]                   From: borowski      Date: 30-May-12 06:52
Subject: Doc Watson
Grammy winning folk guitarist, songwriter and singer.
#59 [media/tv/TV]                  From: Hjalfi        Date: 30-May-12 10:17
Subject: _Mysterious Cities of Gold_ sequel
Also, pigs fly, roosters lay, politicans reasonable... http://www.comicsbeat.com/2012/05/29/mysterious-cities-of-gold-cartoon-sequel-is-actually-happening/
jenrexrode says, "hola robola"
Rob says, "howdy"
[tangent] borowski asks, "Huh, is that the game I remember?"
Rob says, "I raced home to watch the daily show then decided to skip it and get on here instead"
[tangent] borowski says, "There was one with boat racing where you had to pay for repairs."
Recapping 60 of 60 lines from games/computer/adventures:
[adventures]/001 Gunther says, "hmm, if you've pre-ordered Resonance, you get a preview demo as of now"
[adventures]/002 Gunther asks, "who was asking about Space Quest?"
[adventures]/003 Gunther says, "if and when Steam gets its shit together the collection'll be 75% off as today's deal"
[adventures]/004 Jota says, "That guy doing the podcast with Rob Paulsen for the Two Guys Kickstarter."
[adventures]/005 Jota says, "I'm not sure. And yeah, it is."
[adventures]/006 Jota says, "Ilac."
[adventures]/007 Gunther asks, "why does Resonance have not one but two white characters voiced by black persons?"
[adventures]/008 olethros asks, "how can you tell ?"
[adventures]/009 Gunther says, "one is Logan Cunningham, and they have a picture of the other"
[adventures]/010 olethros asks, "could you have known otherwise?"
[adventures]/011 Gunther says, "Cunningham is unmistakable"
[adventures]/012 Gunther says, "ok, *now* the SQ collection is $3 on Steam."
[adventures]/013 Jota says, "$233,000 more in only twelve days... not looking promising."
[adventures]/014 Jota says, "I wonder what they'll do if this fails, given that they've already been working on the project."
[adventures]/015 Gunther says, "Grim Dawn made 100K in one day"
[adventures]/016 Gunther says, "I presume 'another kickstarter' or 'indiegogo'"
[adventures]/017 Matthew asks, "What is this?"
[adventures]/018 Jota says (to Matthew), "The Two Guys From Andromeda -- the creators of Space Quest -- have a kickstarter for a new adventure game."
[adventures]/019 Jota says, " http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/spaceventure/two-guys-spaceventure-by-the-creators-of-space-que "
[adventures]/020 Matthew says, "Oh yeah, this."
[adventures]/021 GDorn says, "well, I was holding off for no good reason, but just pledged $30."
[adventures]/022 Gunther . o O ( doesn't Matthew have $50,000 he doesn't know what to do with? )
[adventures]/023 Jota says, "Ha ha."
[adventures]/024 Matthew says (to Gunther), "I might as well donate $100,000 given how unlikely it is this is going to happen."
[adventures]/025 Jota exclaims, "He could get rights to make up *five* death sequences!"
[adventures]/026 Gunther says (to Matthew), "Not, as you might say, with THAT attitude"
[adventures]/027 Jota says, "It's a little more than halfway to both the deadline and the goal. So it's not implausible for it to finish. But it'd require that the rate of backing go up a little between now and the end, whereas I suspect project backing usually tapers off toward the end."
[adventures]/028 Gunther asks (of Jota), "but it doesn't?"
[adventures]/029 Gunther says, "er, s/?/!/"
[adventures]/030 Jota asks, "No?"
[adventures]/031 Gunther says, "there's always a final rush, sometimes an insane one"
[adventures]/032 Jota says, "Huh."
[adventures]/033 Gunther says, "give me a moment"
[adventures]/034 Jota says, "I thought most projects got their biggest days near the beginning."
[adventures]/035 Gunther says, " http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/crateentertainment/grim-dawn/ "
[adventures]/036 Jota says, "(You're not going to cite Gr-- ha ha.)"
[adventures]/037 Gunther says, "that's one. I'll cite others."
[adventures]/038 Gunther says, "ah, crap, TAKEDOWN has no data"
[adventures]/039 Gunther says, "but it made > 100K on the last few days, too"
[adventures]/040 Gunther says, " http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/1005365109/jane-jensens-pinkerton-road-2012-2013-csg "
[adventures]/041 Gunther says, " http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/stoic/the-banner-saga "
[adventures]/042 Jota says, "Here's hoping the same thing happens here, then."
[adventures]/043 Gunther says, "yeah"
[adventures]/044 Gunther says, "although I'm just deluding us"
[adventures]/045 Jota says, "I admit I do wonder ho much graphs like that are skewed by the fact that they're the projects that were successful."
[adventures]/046 Gunther says, "that might be part of it"
[adventures]/047 Gunther says, "people only backing after it's been successful for no discernable reason"
[adventures]/048 Gunther says, "and stretch goals"
[adventures]/049 Gunther says, "but Takedown got like 80% funded in the last 2-3 days"
[adventures]/050 olethros says, "peculiar"
[adventures]/051 Gunther says, "much to my chagrin"
[adventures]/052 Jota says (to Gunther), "I was thinking more that if you randomly picked a hundred kickstarters, there would be a large correlation between 'got a bunch of money at the end' and 'met its goal'."
[adventures]/053 Jota says, "I.e., it could be that 90% of kickstarters don't get a bunch of money at the end, but 90% of kickstarters also don't reach their goals, and the 10% that do just happen to mostly overlap with the 10% that do."
[adventures]/054 Gunther says, "true"
[adventures]/055 Gunther says, "I guess there are numerous reasons to wait until the last moment"
[adventures]/056 Gunther says, "like, eg, paycheck"
[adventures]/057 Jota says, "Or procrastination."
[adventures]/058 Gunther says, "or that."
[adventures]/059 Ghogg says, "super-belated: code hero was only at something like 12% with a few days to go before they got hit by a reddit flood"
[adventures]/060 Ghogg asks, "also I don't understand why project fedora is doing better than spaceventure because the pitch seems worse, but I guess there's more fans overall?"
Recapped 60 of 60 lines from games/computer/adventures.
[tangent] borowski says, "No, I'm thinking of Eliminator Boat Duel."
[tangent] jenrexrode says, "heh, there were boats in the bathtub"
Recapping 73 of 73 lines from web/facebook:
[facebook]/001 (from olethros) ^\___
[facebook]/002 borowski | Facebook founder and CEO's monetary worth pegged at $14.7B, down from $16.2B
[facebook]/003 borowski says, "Poor kid."
[facebook]/004 Gunther says, "I can't wait for the minus in front"
[facebook]/005 marc says, "or the | | | |"
[facebook]/006 Gunther asks, "?"
[facebook]/007 marc says, "that's my incredibly artistic set of prison bars"
[facebook]/008 Gunther says, "maybe the [==  ><o  (O)"
[facebook]/009 Gunther says, "(cannon firing him into the sun)"
[facebook]/010 marc says, "ha ha"
[facebook]/011 Fang says, "oh so facebook dipped below $30 huh"
[facebook]/012 Gunther says, "KEEP SELLING KEEP SELLING"
[facebook]/013 inky says (to Jota), "sorry about that nascar one -- I don't actually know anything about nascar"
[facebook]/014 inky says, "maybe I should have drawn ads on the cars"
[facebook]/015 Jota says (to inky), "Ha ha. No worries. I figured out it was an auto race, so really it's my own fault that I didn't make the jump to Nascar."
[facebook]/016 inky says, "given they're introducing all these proper names into it, I kind of wish they would have an automatic identifier for "you are guessing a proper name""
[facebook]/017 inky says, "though today I got "demi" and was contemplating trying to draw a demigod"
[facebook]/018 Roger says, "Might be easier to draw a demi-lich"
[facebook]/019 inky says, "ooh, man, wish I'd thought of that"
[facebook]/020 inky says, "step one, draw a druid killing his ape"
[facebook]/021 Jota exclaims, "Step three, profit!"
[facebook]/022 Gunther says, "more like prolich"
[facebook]/023 Jota asks, "Drawings aren't saved anywhere, are they?"
[facebook]/024 inky says, "unfortunately not"
[facebook]/025 inky says, "at least, I don't think so"
[facebook]/026 inky says, "there seems to be a twitter feed of draw something thingsw"
[facebook]/027 inky says, "but I think this is just people taking screenshots"
[facebook]/028 Roger says, "Half a toilet is a demijohn"
[facebook]/029 borowski asks, "Is there a way to prevent people from commenting on your timeline posts?"
[facebook]/030 borowski says, "There's a way to prevent others from posting on your timeline but that doesn't seem to affect comments."
[facebook]/031 inky says (to Jota), "it seems like you have a lot more colors than I do in draw something"
[facebook]/032 inky asks, "did you already buy some extras?"
[facebook]/033 Jota says, "Yeah."
[facebook]/034 Jota says, "Apparently playing for a few days and trying to pick hard words gives you enough to buy oen color pack."
[facebook]/035 inky says, "hmm"
[facebook]/036 Jota says, "(Which are sneakily hidden inside the drawing screen, rather than in the 'shop' screen.)"
[facebook]/037 inky says, "I think I'm up like 90 coins in three days, so I guess that is about right"
[facebook]/038 Jota says, "I think it was around 270ish to buy a color pack."
[facebook]/039 Jota says, "And there's one that's got pretty much everything I wanted -- green, purple, tan, grey, orange."
[facebook]/040 Gunther says, "surely you can pay with real money though"
[facebook]/041 inky says, "oh sure"
[facebook]/042 Gunther says, "by can I mean could because I sure hope"
[facebook]/043 inky says, "just upgrading to the paid version for $2 gives you 200 coins"
[facebook]/044 Jota says (to Gunther), "You use the in-game points/currency to buy colors, but you can buy the in-game points/currency with real money."
[facebook]/045 Jota says (to inky), "I assume that if you'd had access to grey, you would have drawn that totally differently."
[facebook]/046 Gunther says (to Jota), "right"
[facebook]/047 Jota says (to Gunther), "But, totally not necessary. One color pack is plenty, IMO, and it doesn't take that long to earn enough to buy that one."
[facebook]/048 Gunther says, "again, right"
[facebook]/049 Gunther says, "which is why I hope nobody's actually buying anything"
[facebook]/050 inky says (to Jota), "I asked because I was jealous of your fruit picture"
[facebook]/051 Jota says, "Yeah, that was pretty nice."
[facebook]/052 Jota says, "I had to turn down opportunities to draw 'hulk' back when I didn't have access to purple or green."
[facebook]/053 inky says, "you could have drawn red hulk!"
[facebook]/054 Jota says, "Hmm. The way it speeds up the guessing makes it look like people sometimes give up before they've even seen the whole drawing, although I hope that's not true."
[facebook]/055 inky says, "I guess theoretically some people might be *only* playing for coins"
[facebook]/056 inky says, "and so they start a game, see if their opponent is the kind of person who writes the word instead of drawing it, and quits if not"
[facebook]/057 Jota says, "I've also seen people appear to guess the answer before it's actually drawn the bits that have anything to do with the answer."
[facebook]/058 Jota says, "But, yeah, could be impatience."
[facebook]/059 inky says (to Jota), "well, I definitely see that"
[facebook]/060 inky says, "and assume it is people just anagramming the letters"
[facebook]/061 Gunther asks, "presumably using the anagram server?"
[facebook]/062 Jota says (to Gunther), "That would take more time than watching the other person draw the aswer."
[facebook]/063 Gunther says, "oh, I misinterpreted"
[facebook]/064 Gunther says, "Well, some people are just generally dumb"
[facebook]/065 Gunther says, "and/or trolls"
[facebook]/066 Jota says, "I am still considering the accelerated guessing playback theory, though."
[facebook]/067 Jota asks, "For instance, inky: were you able to guess 'fruit' before you even saw the stem on the apple?"
[facebook]/068 inky says, "no, I saw the apple and banana"
[facebook]/069 inky says, "and guessed at that point, but it showed another fruit before I finished typing"
[facebook]/070 inky says, "but, I mean, if you are asking if I am a telepathic genius, then of course the answer is yes"
[facebook]/071 Jota asks, "But I mean, are you a tele -- DEAR GOD HOW DID YOU DO THAT?"
[facebook]/072 lpsmith says, "Yay"
[facebook]/073 inky says, "hee hee"
Recapped 73 of 73 lines from web/facebook.
[tangent] borowski says, "I can't believe I had forgotten about Eliminator Boat Duel until just now. I bet that would still be fun."
Rob says, "blah, way too much interesting stuff in recap"
Rob says, "I'll just have to ignore it"
jenrexrode says, "may be the way to go"
jenrexrode says, "tho"
Rob says, "people were chatty tonight I guess"
Rob says, "up until the moment I arrived of course"
jenrexrode says, "I liked the part where Roger had to go see a movie because Glenn Beck hated it"
[facebook] Rob asks, "huh, that draw something game is a facebook game?"
Rob says, "heh"
Rob says, "what movie"
jenrexrode says, "er recap"
[facebook] jenrexrode says, "it"
Rob asks, "people still pay any attention to anything glenn beck says?"
[facebook] jenrexrode says, "is linked"
Rob says, "I've been blissfully ignoring him for ages now"
Hugo says, "Some people do."
[facebook] jenrexrode says, "easy, since it's on pay radio or something"
Hugo says, "Although I don't know *what* the fuck I'm going to do with all these Glenn Beck Breakfast-O's."
[facebook] jenrexrode says, "whoopsie"
jenrexrode says, "easy, since he's on pay radio or something"
[books] borowski says, "So I bought those books and a message pops up saying "You can select one of these books for only $5!""
jenrexrode says, "I still get radio on the wireless for free"
[books] borowski says, "And I can't say no to Pale Fire for only $5."
[books] borowski says, "But somehow I feel dirty."
borowski says, "I heard that he was starting his own children's TV show but I don't know if that materialized."
[facebook] jenrexrode says, "but I'm not friends with Jota, so we're playing thru the app"
[facebook] Rob says, "ahh"
Recapping 7 of 7 lines from games/games:
[games]/001 jenrexrode says, "got a perfect score on Twinkle Twinkle Little Star on Smule"
[games]/002 Jota says, "It would be interesting if Draw Something had general stats rather than just per-game stats."
[games]/003 Jota says, "E.g., 'you have guessed 82% of drawings from other users, but they've only guessed 63% of yours'"
[games]/004 Jota says, "Or 'yellow is the third most popular color across all players'."
[games]/005 Jota says, "Or 'you correctly guess twice as many Easy words as Hard ones'."
[games]/006 Jota says, "#DrawSomething Huh, that was weird."
[games]/007 Jota says, "My partner just got the exact same word I just did."
Recapped 7 of 7 lines from games/games.
olethros says, "ha! radio on the wireless"
[grr] olethros says, "this program runs fine on the master machine but fails in the cluster nodes with a floating point exception"
Hugo asks (of borowski), "Didn't he used to have a children's TV show?"
Hugo says, "Badum!"
[robmumble] Rob says, "every time I have to use parse_name for the past 13 years I've had to look it up in the manual every single time"
jenrexrode says, "well the power cord doesn't count"
[robmumble] Rob says, "I can never keep it in my head"
[robmumble] jenrexrode says, "some stuff doesn't belong in the head"
olethros says, "well, radio and wireless used to be synonymous"
[robmumble] jenrexrode says, "I had to stick fingers in my ears at work today to prevent bad data from entering during that training class"
[robmumble] Rob says, "heh"
[facebook] Rob says, "I suppose I could get the ipad app or something"
jenrexrode says, "sometimes I stream AM on my iphone, tho."
Rob says, "what's there to listen to on AM"
jenrexrode says, "jeff ward"
borowski says, "On a very special Sesame Street: the socialist apocalypse in America."
jenrexrode says, "then at 7 I switch to FM and listen to KUT"
jenrexrode says, "today jeff was all worked up about Jerry Seinfeld turning down $100 million to do another season of Seinfeld"
jenrexrode says, "and also about using the Enterprise Fund to bring Space X to Brownsville"
jenrexrode says, "as long as the don't cross the border"
[facebook] Rob says, "I didn't realize anyone was actually playing it"
Rob asks, "why would he do another season of seinfeld?"
Rob says, "also he gets $100 million every year from syndication of the old episodes"
Rob says, "they did a reunion on curb your enthusiasm already"
jenrexrode says, "I dunno, but it was interesting listing to jeff whine about how you never turn down $100 million..."
Rob says, "hah"
Rob says, "yeah, y'do"
Hugo says, "I'll turn down a $100 million right now."
Hugo says, "There."
jenrexrode says, "heh"
Rob says, "if someone offered me $100 million for another season of QMan I might take it"
[facebook] jenrexrode says, "I don't think vw even looks at my drawings based on these crazy guesses"
Hugo says, "Don't do it Rob don't sell out"
Rob says, "for that money I only need to sell out once"
[facebook] Rob says, "ok I'm going to download the free app and look at it"
[robmumble] Ellison says, "you could do an Inform 6 wiki. IF wikis are the best!"
zarf says, "For some reason my sell-out assumption is still 'make System's Twilight plushies'"
zarf says, "Same as it was in 1994"
Hugo says, "Well, these bootleg System's Twilight plushies are crap."
maga says, "will they make little System's Twilight noises when you hug them zarf"
Rob says, "yay"
[greece] olethros says, "oops 2342"
[greece] olethros says, "no money left for natural gas"
[movie] Hugo says, "Ennio Morricone's The Untouchables as on the radio while I was driving today."
[movie] Hugo says, "It made me nostalgic, not just for my barley remembered youth, but for when a movie like that could be a hit, and touch a cultural nerve."
[greece] olethros says, "the main distributor will have to stop supplying power plants"
[movie] Hugo says, "barely"
[movie] Hugo says, "Although I DID DRINK QUITE A BIT OF BEER IN UNIVERSITY."
[movie] Hugo says, "Not a rubber suit or cape in sight."
[greece] olethros says, "so the only solution is to renationalise the company"
[movie] Rob says, "my hops and barley youth"
[movie] Hugo says, "(The Untouchables, that is.  My university days were full of plenty of rubber suits and capes.)"
borowski says, "OK sleep time."
borowski's corporeal form was TP'ed while he was astral projecting.
borowski has disconnected.
[movie] Rob says, "this is taking forever"
[facebook] Rob says, "this is taking forever"
[facebook] Rob says, "augh it's going to push notifications onto facebook unless I strive to curtail this behavior isn't it"
[facebook] Rob says, "I didn't expect it to say 'Creating Account...' for five minutes"
[facebook] jenrexrode says, "uhm, it doesn't talk much to facebook, more about notifying you of turns"
[facebook] jenrexrode says, "but if you click 'share' it's on facebook immediately spoiling your friend"
[facebook] jenrexrode draws something really elaborate for vw
[facebook] jenrexrode says, "and I don't think 'watching someone guess' is in real time anymore, because no one would guess 'stilts' based on an armless stick man with no stilts."
Whizzard enterd the room and screemed, "I had sheesh to lose, but you are not going to get the Monka."
Whizzard says, "heyo"
jenrexrode says, "hiya"
[movie] nothings asks, "what is?"
[facebook] Rob says, "well that's a failure"
[facebook] Rob says, "it's still 'Creating Account...' ten minutes later"
[facebook] Rob says, "I kind of expected to have at least seen the game part of the app by now"
Rob says, "whiz-o"
[movie] Rob says, "mischannel from #facebook about draw something"
[facebook] Rob says, "I assume it's trying to grab everyone on facebook as a draw something friend or something"
[movie] nothings says, "ah yes i just spotted"
[facebook] Rob says, "blah"
[facebook] Rob says, "and I can't cancel it or get it out of this mode or anything"
[facebook] Rob says, "it's not even letting my ipad go to sleep"
Grocible enters the lounge. What do you, the detective, want to do about it?
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[facebook] Rob says, "and facebook and email are the only options"
[facebook] Rob says, "sheesh"
[facebook] Rob grumbles about how things other people seem to use all the time never work for him
Tale has two uneven arms and his first apearence was at Jamie Carpenters house. In the rising and revealed that he survived the fall and made it to Paris and that he is a Werewolves.
[facebook] Rob says, "they should call this game Hate Something"
[spam] Tale says, ". I only need English-speaking an assistant. Your main task become my specimen in Europe."
[facebook] Rob says, "oh well looks like I won't be joining in after all"
[spam] Tale says, ". I only need English-speaking an assistant. Your main task become my specimen in Europe."
Tale says, "hi"
[spam] Rob says, "so good they spammed it twice"
Grocible says, "bonjour"
Rob says, "guten morgen"
[facebook] jenrexrode says, "aw"
Grocible says, "not in france it's not"
[facebook] jenrexrode says, "not lately"
[facebook] jenrexrode says, "oops"
jenrexrode says, "not lately"
Ellison has appeared in three Bigfoot/Abominable Snowman-themed movies: Bigfoot: The Unforgettable Encounter, Little Bigfoot and Abominable.
Grocible says, "I think I might go and buy a baguette and some cade au laits"
Grocible says, "cafe"
Hugo says, "Try the soylent baguete."
[tale] Tale says, "I think I finally found my motivation for my geman game"
[tale] Tale says, "It's due June 28th, so doable"
[movie] Hugo says, "+t"
[movie] Hugo says, "Er."
[tale] Ellison asks, "the Doom 3 announcement put some wind in your sails, eh?"
[greece] olethros says, "hm, the IMF asked to increase the electricity prices and reduce the market price for renewable energy production"
Rob says, "ell"
[tale] Tale says, "Indeed"
Grocible says, "the village bakery has an uncharacteristically cheerful and very pretty gal"
Grocible says, "the cafe, however, has this traditionally surly gal"
[tale] Tale says, "More like, finally found an ending I like."
[tale] Rob says, "DAS DU:M"
[tale] Rob says, "is this a german comp or something"
[tale] Rob says, "what, just one ending? Pshaw"
[tale] Tale says, "The AI controlled car realizes it is a part of the pollution problem and decides to go on a trip back to the nature to find itself. Drives off into the sunset..."
Rob asks, "you're in france?"
Grocible says, "oui"
[tale] Rob says, "back to the nature"
Rob says, "formidable"
Rob says, "where at"
Grocible says, "near Arles"
[tale] Tale says (to rob), "The other end is a huge explosion!"
[greece] olethros says, "this is awesome"
Grocible says, "Arles is Dumpville"
Grocible says, "but this place we're staying is lovely. out in the country"
[greece] olethros | We?re trying to transform our basic political values into concrete numbers and proposals. In place of slogans like ?democratic tax reform,? party officials are working to decide just how much to tax the very rich. ?This is more than we expected,? said Vassilis Primikiris, another committee member. ?It?s a lot of work.?
[qman] Rob says, "I note again how the #1 and #2 at the IMF look like Number One and Number Two in QMan"
[tale] Rob says, "oh that's ok then"
[qman] olethros says, "I just finished QMan again, in the smallest room"
[qman] Rob asks, "in the smallest room?"
[qman] olethros says, "it's all kind of obvious"
[facebook] vaporware says, "belated, yeah, the latest update made the replay faster and I think it's sometimes out of sync with the guessing."
[facebook] Rob says, "which it made the account creation faster"
[tale] Ellison says, "the car should drop a cigarette that starts a flame that leads back to a bunch of humans that explode while it drives away in slow motion"
[tale] Rob says, "spoilers for loose cannon"
[tale] Ellison says, "heh"
[qman] olethros | "I am sitting in the smallest room of my house. I have your review before me. In a moment it will be behind me!"
Hugo asks, "How can you be in France and not be at Roland-Garros?"
[qman] Rob baffled expression
[qman] olethros says, "it's the toilet"
[qman] Rob says, "oh ah"
[qman] Rob says, "also good for that is my movie reviews book"
Grocible says, "le tennis est le yawn"
Hugo unfriends Grocible.
Rob says, "l'ennui, quel dommage, brr brr hohn"
Rob says, "at least grocible knew what roland-garros was"
Quotations:
Gunther (quoted by inky, 29-May-12):
  [quotebooks] Gunther says, "in josh_g's last quote surely the channel needs to be #jugstaposition"
DavidW (quoted by Allen, 29-May-12):
  [clubfloyd] DavidW asks, "Should we go west in search of pants?"
DavidW (quoted by olethros, 30-May-12):
  [booze] olethros says, "why do I smell ouzo"
  [booze] DavidW says, "Must be a hole in the ouzo layer."
Rob (quoted by Jota, 30-May-12):
  [kitties] Rob says, "I guess they need to be continually eating antelope"
Grocible says, "I'm here in France as a last holiday with my parents ever. Dad is not doing well"
Rob says, "aww"
Hugo says, "Also, the French Open is on clay; it's Wimbledon that's played on le yawn."
Grocible says, "so we're giving him a final holiday as a present"
Rob asks, "is he having enjoyable moments?"
Grocible says, "and fuck is it hard work"
Grocible says, "yeah, I think so"
Rob says, "hope so"
Rob says, "you'll be always glad you did it though probably"
olethros says, "oh"
Grocible says, "oh yeah definitely"
Grocible says, "and Mum's getting a break from a few things"
olethros asks, "are you having the role of tour organiser?"
Rob says, "hm I stirred some emotions in myself I wasn't expecting"
Grocible says, "we're staying in this posh converted farmhouse"
Grocible says, "and our car was upgraded to a sleek silver Passat"
Rob asks, "has he enjoyed holidays in france throughout his life?"
Grocible says, "yeah"
Rob nods
Grocible says, "it's super easy to visit France, as we know it pretty well"
[facebook] jenrexrode says, "now that I think of it, the app has been semi-crashing all night..."
olethros says, "we'll be in Mimet next week"
[facebook] Rob says, "maybe I'll try again tomorrow"
Grocible says, "and I'm bilingual, so it's not like visiting Spain or somewhere"
olethros says, "not that far from there"
[facebook] Rob asks, "when one finally gets an account created does it ping one's friends to let them know one has arrived?"
[facebook] jenrexrode says, "'facebook login failed'  then I get booted out, restart and it works"
olethros says, "those little hill villages are awesome"
Rob says, "ah envy"
[facebook] jenrexrode says, "I think you just start a game with them, otherwise I'd have to make it looks for FB friends again"
Rob says, "it's been 15 years since my only trip to france, come september"
jenrexrode asks, "what happened to your recent plans?"
Grocible says, "France is a very cool country for relaxing holidays"
Rob says, "that's still one more than UK trips"
Rob says, "well I don't have any money basically"
Grocible says, "awesome scenery, great food"
Grocible says, "as long as you ignore the surly waiters"
Rob says, "I experienced the joy of food while in france"
Rob says, "*everything* was delicious"
olethros says, "well, they ccannot be more surly than swiss waiters"
Rob says, "it was sort of eye opening, or mouth opening, or something"
[facebook] jenrexrode says, "fail fail fail"
Grocible says, "French sucks ass if you're vegetarian, though"
Hugo says, "Try the soylent baguette!"
Rob says, "I'm not a vegetarian, but they cook a lot of stuff I'm unwilling to eat"
Rob says, "but even with that I enjoyed everything I had"
Grocible says, "awww Jennifer just brought me a nice cup of tea"
Rob says, "mm"
[iPhone] jenrexrode says, "reboot.  hm, it was slow to acknowledge rebooting, too"
[i-am-an-idiot] Tale says, "Just saw someone in the men's room and wondered if he's male or female"
Grocible says, "this is to make up for yesterday, when I drove back from village with a couple of espressos precariously balanced in the cupholder"
Grocible says, "then I boiled up some milk and made lattes"
[iPhone] Rob says, "ok well I'm glad it's not just me, although I guess I picked an unlucky night to become curious"
Rob says, ">PUT ESPRESSO IN ZARF"
[finance] boucher says, "'Investing in Facebook isn't just like investing in buggy whips.  It's like investing in laser-powered buggy whips.' -Tyson Boucher"
Grocible says, "these are high-tech adjustable German zarfs"
Grocible says, "zarfen"
[finance] Rob says, "not much market for those, either"
[finance] Rob says, "also, the 'isn't just like' part of the comment is kind of curious"
Rob asks, "a german car in france?"
Grocible says, "VW Passat"
Rob says, "oh yeah you mentioned the auto already"
Grocible says, "it's one of the new superdiesels"
[finance] boucher says, "From an increasingly stretched idiom and metaphor-filled conversation about my mother's retirement account and how conservative she should be."
Grocible says, "it shuts off at stop lights"
Grocible says, "and restarts automatically in picoseconds"
Hugo says, "The V is for Vichy."
Grocible says, "the time you take to step on the clutch it starts. By the time the car's in first gear the engine is running"
[iPhone] jenrexrode exclaims, "hm, not that I listen to subtle messages from my phone, but I think it's saying I should go to bed!"
Rob says, "HUH"
Rob says, "er, ... huh"
Rob says, "that's kind of like electric cars -ish"
Grocible says, "it's a  mostly awesome car"
[iPhone] Rob says, "yeah probably"
Grocible says, "except it hasn't got a fucking handbrake, you fucking idiotic car designers"
[i-am-an-idiot] Ellison asks, "did you say, 'get a gender, you hippie!'?"
[snacks] jenrexrode asks, "chocolate milk?"
Grocible says, "it's got an electric brake"
Grocible asks, "which is fucking useless on a fucking hill. do these morons not drive their own cars?"
[finance] boucher says, "You mean that the just can float?  I think it has equally valid meaning either way, though."
marc in the land of the lounge lizards.
jenrexrode exclaims, "Engage!"
Rob says, "gnight"
Recapping 1 of 1 line from food/snacks:
[snacks]/001 jenrexrode asks, "chocolate milk?"
Recapped 1 of 1 line from food/snacks.
Rob says, "you're sounding like that guy from top gear"
[finance] boucher says, "The correct question, of course, then being 'does this have valid meaning?'"
Rob says, "only slighty saltier"
Ellison says, "later, whoever's leaving"
Rob says, "jen I think"
vaporware asks, "Electric brake?"
Hugo says, "Giant magnet."
Grocible says, "well you try switching from park to drive on an hill when the car is a manual transmission"
Grocible says, "and there's no handbrake"
Rob says, "manual transmission and no handbrake"
Hugo asks, "Park and drive and manual transmission?"
Grocible says, "also, they're aping the fucking stupid GM design of skinny back windows"
vaporware says, "That's when the parkway becomes a driveway."
Rob says, "I take starting up on a hill with standard transmission to be one of those manly tests of driverly manhood"
Grocible says, "the visibility isn't as atrocious as this useless car I rented in Seattle last year"
Rob says, "but I haven't had to deal with no handbrake and electric brakes, whatever those are"
Grocible says, "rob: yeah. also, you have to have two arms and two legs"
Rob says, "hmm"
Rob says, "that is a problem for a certain number of people"
Grocible says, "as you need left foot on clutch, right foot on brake, left hand on wheel and right hand on handbrake"
Rob says, "although they probably opt for auto transmissions"
Grocible says, "and you need to coordinate everything perfectly on else the car rolls down the hill and you crash"
vaporware says, "eh, I never used the handbrake to start on a hill, just peeled out."
Rob says, "I remember being 16 or so and my dad trying to learn me how to do this"
Grocible asks, "vapor: when you're pointed uphill?"
Rob says, "we lived on a street with a fairly gentle slope"
vaporware says (to Grocible), "Yup, happened a few times in downtown Seattle."
Rob says, "it was good enough to get the basic panic across without being too critical"
marc says, "hey"
[ill] marc says, "yay, it's summer cold time"
Grocible says, "the reason is that manual transmissions don't hold back the car from moving the way automatic tranmissions do"
Rob says, "seattle has a few steepnesses and declivities"
Rob says, "san francisco is a riot"
Rob says, "yeah basically you learn how to gun it is what it seems like"
Grocible says, "that's a clumsy way to do it that's bad for the clutch"
vaporware says, "If you're fleet enough of foot you can just switch from footbrake to gas really fast."
Rob says (to vw), "yeah"
Grocible says, "v: that's what I'm doing on this car, yeah"
Grocible says, "very inelegant"
Grocible says, "as the car rolls a short distance the wrong way"
vaporware says, "Wearing out the clutch is an alternate way to do it that's less scary for the passengers and passersby, also less fun for the driver."
Grocible says, "once I was getting a ride with this guy who'd just bought a manual transmission Golf"
Grocible says, "he rode the clutch on a hill"
Grocible says, "and I was like, uhhhhhh"
Grocible says, "and after a while it started to smoke"
vaporware says, "Much less fun for the car."
jenrexrode says, "oh, I don't have a handbrake.  I just give it a good amount of gas, and slowly let out the clutch"
zarf walks off through the wall; pale green light flares briefly around him.
</zarf> has disconnected.
[snacks] jenrexrode asks, "hm, but how to I hold the brake?"
[snacks] jenrexrode says, "whoops"
vaporware says, "My new car has an automatic transmission (sort of) as well as a hill holder feature. Haven't taken it to SF yet so I haven't tried it."
jenrexrode says, "I should run out an test it right now"
Rob says, "that's not the same as going to bed"
Rob asks, "sort of?"
Grocible says, "hill holders are the new cup holders"
jenrexrode says, "yeah, and requires shoes and pants and wallet"
Grocible says, "only more cumbersome"
Rob says, "not necessarily the first two"
Rob asks, "is driving without shoes actually considered illegal?"
Grocible says, "I think it may be in some states"
[snacks] jenrexrode says, "dunno"
Rob says, "yeah, not sure about this one"
Rob says, "I've done it"
Grocible says, "I vaguely recall reading that somewhere"
[snacks] jenrexrode says, "goddang"
Grocible says, "you foot nudist"
Rob says, "then again I have feet that are 12 inches long so they're like other-people-shoes"
Grocible says, "okay. I'm going away now"
Rob says, "oh wait, that's not true. it's my shoes that are a foot long"
Grocible says, "off to help with breakfast"
Grocible says, "bye"
Rob says, "I guess my feet are more like 10 inches"
Rob says, "au revoir"
Grocible goes home.
Grocible has disconnected.
jenrexrode says, "don't start me foot measuring"
vaporware says, "My MR2 came with a broken handbrake and I never bothered to fix it. I was working s a delivery driver so I was parking in driveways for a few minutes all the time. I'd just leave the car in gear while I got out to do business, but if the driveway was steep enough, it'd lurch downhill every so often."
vaporware says, "Then the starter went out and I had to leave it running all night."
jenrexrode says (to vw), "yikes"
[snacks] boucher says, "The scenario: jen is in her car, precariously at the top of a hill in San Francisco, junk food on every available surface.  In some cases, controls are covered, and a Coke can has now rolled under the brake pedal, forcing her to hold the car in place with her emergency brake"
Rob says, "la va grocible"
[snacks] Rob says, "tricky"
[snacks] boucher says, "But she's *really* hungry.  After a lot of worrying, she finally realizes the answer."
ghira has disconnected.
ghira has connected.
ghira says, "meep"
Rob says, "hallo ghira"
ghira says, "robble"
[snacks] boucher says, "'I'll call ifMUD and ask them!  They always have a clever solution.'"
Quote added to jenrexrode's quotebook.
[snacks] Rob says, "hah"
Quotations:
jenrexrode (quoted by Rob, 18-Feb-11):
  BrenBarn says, "my violin teacher had a viola with the scroll carved as a bust of Harrison Ford"
  jenrexrode asks (of BrenBarn), "Han Solo or Indiana Jones?"
jenrexrode (quoted by inky, 17-Oct-11):
  [google] jenrexrode says, "like 4 years belated, hehe"
jenrexrode (quoted by Rob, 31-May-12):
  jenrexrode says, "don't start me foot measuring"
Quotations:
jenrexrode (quoted by Rob, 18-Feb-11):
  BrenBarn says, "my violin teacher had a viola with the scroll carved as a bust of Harrison Ford"
  jenrexrode asks (of BrenBarn), "Han Solo or Indiana Jones?"
jenrexrode (quoted by inky, 17-Oct-11):
  [google] jenrexrode says, "like 4 years belated, hehe"
jenrexrode (quoted by Rob, 31-May-12):
  jenrexrode says, "don't start me foot measuring"
[snacks] jenrexrode says, "well I was gonna ask if it's a crime to take pills with chocolate milk, but the point is moot"
[snacks] vaporware says, "Oh, I know this one. First you send the can of Coke and the candy bar across the Golden Gate Bridge, then the can of Coke comes back and you cross the bridge with it, then you send the candy bar back for the car."
[snacks] boucher says, "After a really impressive scene, involving some skillful backwards midnight driving, she only has one thing to say."
[quotebooks] Rob says, "jen has way too few quotebook quotes"
ghira asks, "how are things in robland?"
Rob says, "oh you know they're actually not so bad"
[snacks] boucher says, "Well, theww."
[snacks] boucher says, "Er, three"
Rob says, "if I consciously decide to not worry about trivial stuff like life situation and finances and the present and the future"
[snacks] Rob says, "I think taking pills with chocolate milk is a good idea"
[snacks] Rob says, "especially if your stomach is emptyish beforehand"
[tangent] jenrexrode says, "some time travel thing said that we're trapped in the present, but I don't think that's true"
ghira thinks. "I was on the outskirts of an earthquake 2 days ago. That's about all I have right now."
Rob asks, "you were there?"
ghira says, "yes"
[snacks] boucher says, "I think it should be a standard warning label on every prescription bottle"
Rob says, "I knew you were off to sicily but I wasn't sure whether that meant you got caught up in it or not"
Tale asks, "How's the ear?"
ghira says, "well, we couldn't get direct flights and had a 4 hour layover in Milan so went into town"
Rob says, "is this the one that destroyed a million dollars worth of parmesan or the other one"
jenrexrode doesn't remember typing anything about an earthquake -  oh it was ghira
Rob says, "the ear hasn't given me trouble in a couple of weeks"
ghira says, "this is the one that took out the balsamic vinegar place"
ghira says, "so the second one"
[snacks] boucher says, "Warning:  May cause an extreme lack of yumminess if not taken with chocolate milk"
Rob says, "it has sort of permanently gotten fatter in one part but only close scrutiny reveals this"
Rob says, "also the bills haven't come in yet"
[snacks] jenrexrode exclaims, "but one of those allergy meds says 'don't take with orange juice'!"
Rob says, "how much balsamic vinegar was lost"
ghira says, "well I don't know exactly"
Rob decides to see if there's a wikipedia entry on balsamic vinegar
ghira says, "bound to be"
[snacks] Rob says, "hm maybe acid destroys the molecules or something"
[snacks] Rob says, "but milk is basic rather than acidic"
[snacks] Rob says, "hm I wonder what the ph of chocolate is"
Rob says, "in fact yes"
[snacks] vaporware says, "Orange, eh? I know grapefruit is contraindicated for some meds."
ghira says, "AB used to live in Milan and would vaguely like to go back, I think."
[snacks] jenrexrode says, "quik"
Rob says, "I wonder who the guys are who started and filled out this entry"
[snacks] vaporware says, "(Grapefruit juice interferes with some enzyme that metabolizes certain drugs.)"
ghira says, "Not clear tha moving to Italy to work is much winninger a plan than moving to Greece to work at the moment"
[snacks] jenrexrode says, "oh yeah, grapefruit juice and lipitor"
Rob | the production of the balsamic vinegar is mentioned in a document dated 1046
Rob says, "I'm mainly curious what balsam is"
[UK] Tale asks (of ghira), "So, who else is comting to le meet?"
jenrexrode says, "that stuff that Farrah Fawcett used on her hair"
[UK] ghira says, "this is not that clear. several London people have said "enh, we'll decide closer to the day""
Tale says (to rob), "some sort of cure"
Rob says, "huh. made from grapes and aged in casks like wine"
Rob says (to jen), "exactly !"
Rob says, "wello-balsam"
Rob says, "or whatever it was"
jenrexrode says, "wella balsam"
[UK] ghira says, "seems pretty clear we'll have me, AB, you, olethros. some of fang, iain, groc, marc but not sure which. not gunther."
Rob says, "wella howdy"
[UK] ghira asks, "probably not rob but he may just pop over for the weekend, eh rob?"
[UK] ghira says, "take in the Da vinci thing in London while he's there"
[UK] Tale says, "I should say up front I am just coming to improve my whomet."
[UK] ghira says, "well marc's is empty, so if he comes he'll definitely improve his"
Rob says, "oh, I should have looked up the wikipedia for 'balsam' instead"
[UK] Rob says, "man I wish"
[UK] ghira says, "you could visit Italy before any more of it turns to dust"
vaporware vows never to return again, as he leads a rumba line out of the lounge after setting the place on fire.
</vaporware> If it is night, and the stars are beautiful, I hesitate to say so, lest my hosts feel obligated to try to get one for me.
ghira says, "Looks like we may be back in Sicily in late August for S-i-L's 40th"
[UK] Rob says, "my life circumstances need a huge adjustment in a hurry"
ghira says, "Sicily in August is probably more than I can handle"
[workplace] jenrexrode was tricked into working 10 hours today, thanks to wasting 5 hours in 'class'
[snacks] boucher says, "Yeah, they're not sure to what degree, but some researchers certainly think fruit other than grapefruit may still be risk to inhibit CYP3A4."
[UK] Rob says, "perhaps a kickstarter 'aw come on let me visit the UK' project"
Rob says, "etna, I'm glad I met ya, but not in august"
[UK] ghira says, "if you stay with mudders, you can probably do various bits of europe pretty cheaply"
Rob says, "sister-in-law + sicily-in-late"
[UK] ghira says, "choose dates when flights happen to be cheapish and settle for whatever period of the year that gets you"
jenrexrode says, "IRTA son-in-law, but I'm old"
[UK] Rob says, "that will definitely help"
ghira says, "actually S-i-L lives 700m or so up Etna so if we stayed with her, which we won't, that would take the edge off it for me"
ghira says, "when we go from her place down to the coast I can feel the heat/humidity getting worse as we descend"
jenrexrode says, "oh, like Persephone"
ghira says (to jen), "I guess it was ambiguous, so fair enough."
Rob says, "mm pomegranates"
ghira says, "prickly pears"
Rob says, "ghira can't be that far off from our ages"
ghira says, "Sicily is full of them. I gather they were imported from the Americas in 16 something and have taken the island over"
Rob says, "also your age and mine are closer than they used to be"
jenrexrode exclaims, "yeah, but my nephews are in their 30's!"
Rob says, "huh"
Rob says, "ok my nephews aren't that old yet"
Rob says, "actually I was thinking of my cousin's kids, since my brother only had kids a few years ago"
Rob says, "the oldest cousin-kid is off to college and his siblings are close behind"
Ellison goes back to Squeamhurst..
Ellison has disconnected.
Rob says, "actually now that I think about it I don't know what year ghira was born"
Rob says, "I've assimilated a vague sense based on when he was playing acorn games in university years or something"
Rob says, "he's old enough to wear a bow-tie"
Rob says, "and for bow-ties to become cool again"
jenrexrode asks, "being the youngest kinda ages your perception...?"
Rob says, "oh yeah I was that guy"
Rob says, "when I first got on ifmud there was a guy like that here"
ghira says, "we have an 11 year old nephew"
Rob says, "then he went to college, then did things after college, then started a full life after that, la la la"
Rob asks, "are you and AB close in age?"
ghira says, "yes. 2 years apart"
jenrexrode says, "so my family is all older than me, etc."
Rob says, "I'm one of the older guys here"
Tale asks, "I did mention i thought you were like 15 years younger than you are?"
Rob asks, "who me?"
ghira says, "I wrote a Phoenix game in 1986 or so which must fix my age in a fairly narrow range"
Rob says, "yeah I'm still lookin good"
Tale says, "Yep"
Tale says (to ghira), "I was 3 then!"
Rob says, "if I thought you were 15 years younger than you are you'd be like 2 or something"
ghira asks, "how old is "old enough to wear a bow tie", exactly?"
Rob says, "I dunno"
ghira asks, "Matt Smith pulls it off and he's mid to late 20s, isn't he?"
Rob says, "yeah he might be nearly 30 finally"
Tale says, "More like 13"
Rob says, "he was 26 when he was hired"
<Gunther> Oh, I'm sorry, was it a *private* distress signal?
Gunther just looks like a moron throwing around jars of spiders... bitch please.
Rob says, "meanwhile here's another of the 77'ers"
You flip to July. Below a picture of a stifling theatre, you see a listing of people's birthdays and other events:
   1: Iain
   2: two-star
   7: beej
   9: William
  17: JamesJolley
  20: gjnave
  23: maxporter
  24: Skeet, ghira, mef
  25: Storme
  27: TuqueeLukee
  28: inky
  29: Esperanza, jenrexrode
Type 'read jul-descrip' for a description of the scene.
Tale says, "Speaking of Why the hell aren't you coming to Brghton, it's Gunther"
You flip to June. Below a picture of an ivy-entwined Victorian manor, you see a listing of people's birthdays and other events:
   1: Thazz, Blindguy
   5: ifMUD (1997, 11am EDT), ifMUD
   6: Kiz
   7: TShatrov
  10: BoingBall, Matthew
  11: Observer
  12: jdouglass
  13: Stacey
  14: dfan
  15: Alex
  18: JasonMel
  23: samuel
  24: Mona, schep
  25: McMartin
  26: Bishop
Type 'read jun-descrip' for a description of the scene.
ghira says, "I saw a random person on the train wearing a cravat the other day"
You flip to August. Below a picture of a meandering tortoise, you see a listing of people's birthdays and other events:
   2: Daddo
   3: amackinnon
   4: eu
   5: nothings
   6: vaporware
   7: Ghogg
   9: banseljaj
  10: Ellison
  14: Tale
  17: Valancy
  20: Mrs. Limax
  21: yournamehere
  22: Jota, Paul
  23: Gerynar
  24: Weetabix
  26: olethros
  28: mamster
  29: Sargent
Type 'read aug-descrip' for a description of the scene.
You flip to September. Below a picture of a smiling, friendly Buddha, you see a listing of people's birthdays and other events:
   4: JCZorkmid
   5: ShadowK
   6: Brutus
  12: baf
  15: Mus
  17: Nate
  24: ChrisC
  26: Johnny
  27: Dilbon
  28: Strider
  29: Doe, Guest1
  30: Chaos
Type 'read sep-descrip' for a description of the scene.
You flip to July. Below a picture of a stifling theatre, you see a listing of people's birthdays and other events:
   1: Iain
   2: two-star
   7: beej
   9: William
  17: JamesJolley
  20: gjnave
  23: maxporter
  24: Skeet, ghira, mef
  25: Storme
  27: TuqueeLukee
  28: inky
  29: Esperanza, jenrexrode
Type 'read jul-descrip' for a description of the scene.
Gunther says, "I am totally a 76er"
You flip to September. Below a picture of a smiling, friendly Buddha, you see a listing of people's birthdays and other events:
   4: JCZorkmid
   5: ShadowK
   6: Brutus
  12: baf
  15: Mus
  17: Nate
  24: ChrisC
  26: Johnny
  27: Dilbon
  28: Strider
  29: Doe, Guest1
  30: Chaos
Type 'read sep-descrip' for a description of the scene.
You flip to October. Below a picture of scary, shuffling mannequins, you see a listing of people's birthdays and other events:
   2: Sarah
   4: Kwi
   8: Jon
  15: Trent
  17: WeirdBeard, WeirdBeard
  19: Alec
  20: Ampersand, Rob
  21: Heaven, Foobler
  22: DanDawson
  25: Bruce
  26: rae_bot
  29: Emerald
  31: DGlasser
Type 'read oct-descrip' for a description of the scene.
Rob asks, "you are?"
ghira says, "I see random people with bow ties occasionally, but not counting people obviously attending weddings I think this may be the first cravat I have seen in real life"
Rob says, "no way"
Rob says, "heh cravat"
Gunther says (to Rob), "December, but yes"
Rob says, "what about ascots"
Rob asks, "you're older than inky?"
ghira asks, "aren't they the same thing?"
Rob asks, "are they?"
ghira says, "I know ascot is USese for something"
ghira says, "I assume it was cravat"
Gunther says (to Rob), "I missed out on marrying Duchess because she thought I was younger than her!"
Rob says, "I don't think anyone in the US even knows what a cravat specifically is"
DavidW says, "I thought ascots were more scarf-like and loose. I could be wrong; I often am."
Rob says, "dang !"
Gunther says, "(not really, but she DID think I was younger)"
Rob says, "there's some anecdote about Adam conceding his naturism to formality and wearing an ascot and nothing else"
DavidW says, "I first saw the word cravat in Lewis Carroll, in the description of Humpty Dumpty."
Rob says, "ok, 76. huh"
Rob says, "I thought you were 77 like inky and someone else and someone else and someone else"
[italy] ghira says, "29 more aftershocks overnight. all quite small though"
Gunther says, "I'm 76 exactly like lno"
Hugo says, "Rob has everyone filed by birth year."
Rob says, "yeah exact same day and date for you guys right"
Hugo says, "I have you all filed by cooking time."
Gunther says, "yup"
[italy] ghira says, "stil probably enough to cause problems for stuff that's already wobbly i guess"
Gunther says (to Hugo), "the word is 'fileted'"
Rob says, "it is a thing that I have somehow filed away in the neural net somewhere over time"
jenrexrode says, "oh, I thought I was Star Trek"
[italy] Rob says, "29, man"
jenrexrode says, "Or Batman Movie"
Rob asks, "aren't you star trek?"
Rob says, "like RoadRich and +Rich and others"
jenrexrode says, "but I guess people here are Star Wars"
Rob says, "there is this weird way in which RRich now seems younger than me even though this is not chronologically true"
Gunther asks, "'are'?"
DavidW says, "I have somehow lost the thread of the conversation."
Rob says, "he sort of took on a sidekick role when he helped me make my movie and it redefined our friendship age relation"
ghira says, "I'm too young to have seen Hartnell"
Rob asks (of ghira), "was there a doctor you first saw broadcast that you remember?"
ghira says, "I guess I could theoretically have seen Troughton but am not aware that I actually did."
ghira says (to rob), "Pertwee"
Rob says, "so pertwee"
jenrexrode says, "well if we'd say the year, you'd need some cultural thing to date it"
Rob says, "mm okay"
Rob asks, "so maybe you're older than jen slightly?"
jenrexrode says, "i'm also born the last year of Beatles touring"
ghira says (to rob), "The first stories I remember are .. exxilons, dinosaur invasion, planet of the spiders"
Rob says, "I was born after they broke up :/"
ghira says (to rob), "don't remember time warrior from first time round"
Rob says, "I'm guessing you were 6 when you saw those"
ghira says (to rob), "So I only just caught Pertwee, it seems"
Rob says, "wait, I don't even remember who the exxilons were"
Rob says, "from the planet of the mega petroleum corporation"
ghira asks (of rob), "actual story is called.. death to the daleks, I think?"
Rob says, "hmmm"
ghira says (to rob), "planet with the energy drain thing on it"
ghira says (to rob), "city full of puzzles the doctor has to solve"
Rob says, "so now I'm guessing 67"
jenrexrode says, "My mom was waxing nostalgic about an evil cactus, saying she can't get into the new Doctor Who"
ghira says (to rob), "tardis and daleks both in serious trouble"
Rob says (to jen), "heh"
ghira says (to rob), "66"
Rob says, "nertz"
Rob says, "ok so same year as batman and startrek"
ghira says (to jen), "for what it's worth, quite a lot of season 6 did not do much for me"
Rob says, "jen and I know this guy who was born on 66/6/6"
ghira says (to jen), "night terrors, girl who waited, pirates, the one in the shop, ..."
Rob says, "on bbc america yesterday they were playing early eccleston episodes"
Rob says, "and I was like man these were a long time ago already by now"
ghira says, "RAI4 in Italy is doing all of new who one ep a day starting a few days ago"
Rob asks, "what's RAI?"
ghira says, "Italian state tv"
Rob asks, "what does it stand for (in italian) ?"
jenrexrode says, "I like Sally Sparrow"
Rob says, "I wonder what the actress who played sally sparrow has done since"
Rob says, "since she was good and also cute"
jenrexrode says, "not near as cute,"
ghira says, "somehow, Radiotelevisione Italiana"
Rob says, "not near as cute as what"
ghira says (to rob), "she's done quite a bit"
ghira says (to rob), "indeed, she's probably way too expensive for dr who now"
jenrexrode says, "recent photos I find her unrecognizable"
Rob says, "strange that it's not RTI instead since I might have sussed that out"
ghira says (to rob), "though, ok, they get Jacobi and so on"
Rob says (to ghira), "huh"
Rob does some googling on her
ghira says, "look up "Carey Mulligan" on IMDB"
Rob says, "carey mulligan? what a name"
ghira says, "timing"
Rob says, "yeah tabs on imdb and wikipedia for her"
Rob says, "wow wikipedia picture"
Rob says, "different hair and a lot of around-the-eyes-lines"
Rob says, "been on broadway? she's gotten around"
Rob says, "has a mother named 'Nano'"
Rob says, "one can guess what present she received for birthday and/or mothers day a half decade back"
jenrexrode says, "ow"
Rob says, "wow this does make her sound busy"
Hugo asks, "You're talking about Carey Mulligan?"
Rob says, "oh, she's in the Great Gatsby thing we were just talking about the other night"
Hugo says, "She's one of the most sought-after actresses in the business."
Rob asks, "is she?"
Rob asks, "when did she become that?"
Hugo says, "An Education."
jenrexrode yawns widely.
Rob says, "hm, Never Let Me Go"
Rob says, "ohh, An Education"
Rob asks, "she was the one in that?"
zaphod goes home.
zaphod has disconnected.
Rob says, "I read scads of stuff about that but never actually watched it"
Rob says (to Hugo), "hurry up and cast her in something"
ghira says, "I read the book and didn't think I wanted to see the film"
Rob says, "yeah I guess she crossed the Atlantic and is now busy doing stuff"
[facebook] jenrexrode says, "got FB and drawsomething to communicate again, but too tired to draw"
Rob says, "li'l sally sparrow, aw'l grown oop"
[facebook] Rob says, "check in tomorrow night"
[facebook] Rob says, "maybe it'll work for me by then"
[facebook] jenrexrode says, "yeah, probably during lunch"
[facebook] jenrexrode says, "aka 3pm"
jenrexrode says, "nite"
ghira says, "so her becoming a companion, not going to happen. special guest appearance? maybe"
jenrexrode wanders off.
</jenrexrode> has disconnected for an undetermined reason or duration.
Hugo says, "Whoops I think I just fell asleep."
Hugo goes home.
Hugo has disconnected.
Tale says, "Patrick Stewart wants to appear in Dr Who"
Rob says, "they should get on that"
Rob says, "the return of sally sparrow"
Rob says, "she must have a mf'er of an agent or something"
Rob says, "then again, all these creds are still kind of indie"
Rob says, "she hasn't done anything considered hollywood mainstream yet"
Rob says, "which doesn't exactly make her one of the most sought after in the biz"
Rob says, "oh well, that was directed at Hugo, who isn't here"
Rob says, "I suppose maybe this is my cue to float off into the aether for a while"
Rob says, "g'frg"
Rob heads right on out.
</Rob> Find release from your cares. have a good time.
Seeya later.