Logfile from ifmud. ************************************************************************ ** ** ** Welcome to ifMUD! ** ** ** ************************************************************************ FAQ: http://www.allthingsjacq.com/ifMUDfaq/ IP: 66.114.68.227 MONKEY: Ook. If you... have an account Type "connect name password" to log in need an account Go to http://ifmud.port4000.com:4001/ and apply are just visiting Type "connect guest guest" to login as Guest want to see who's on Type "who" for a list of players online have problems Email markm - mark.musante@gmail.com TYPE connect, who, or quit: Login Succeeded ifMUD An interactive real time social network chat bulletin board quotebook url database with a parrot bot Copyright 1997-2007 by Loungent Technologies, a wholly owned subsidiary of rec.[arts|games].int-fiction; All rights reserved. Release 4 / Serial number 990908 / perlMUD v2.1z "The characters were mostly of the cardboard cutout variety. I wanted to punch everyone except the one Scottish guy." --Jearl NOTE: Whenever a fix or enhancement is in place, it will be announced on the channel '#mud-updates'. OTHER NOTE: There is a mailing list where people can say things like "hey, the mud's down, what's up with that?" In fact, since this is the only thing the list is used for, you should join it if you are interested in this subject. To join, go to http://groups.google.com/group/ifmud/ or talk to Steve. Robinson Manor A gracious, welcoming, airy space. Music drifts in from unseen speakers. A picture window on the southern wall provides a pleasant source of light and a sense of openness. You can see: teleporter, a picture window, comfy sofa, Jeopardy podium, buzzer1, buzzer2, buzzer3, Jota greets Rob Visible Exits: west, east “I’ve got a significant strawberry,’’ he said. No new channels have been created since your last check. Adventurer's Lounge Candles on the wood-panelled walls create a comfortably dark atmosphere. Hand-drawn maps are taped to nearly every surface -- the walls, the ceiling, the trophy case in the corner. Seating is plentiful. A small storage closet is to the north. You can see: new laundry list, Birthday Calendar, magic laundry list, blank banner, Even Newer World Map, charset sampler, Automeeter, TheMasterTheorem player names, time zones, MUD Client Wish List, banana, Anything Finder, battle.net battletags, his pants Players: Alex, markm, Touchy, Ryan, Dave, jpt, Bishop, vimes, baf, DorianX, GDorn, Jearl, Psmith, Matthew, Jon, Whizzard, zaphod, lpsmith, Marktwo, Allen, Richie, Doug, ghira, annabianca, Lucea, genericgeekgirl, DavidW, Gunther, Fang, Hjalfi, marc, Petrosilius, borowski, Oren, Nitku Visible Exits: north, west, southwest, southeast, up, east Rob comes right on in. Recapping 169 of 2762 lines from recent channels: [programming]/06:36 Hjalfi says, "...that game, incidentally, was based around a persistent object store. Each object had a key/value property list and a class which defined the behaviour." [programming]|06:36 marc says, "i guess you could throw that all into a mongodb collection" [programming]|06:36 Hjalfi says, "There was a really painful amount of boilerplate needed to make this work. I was surprised; I'd thought there'd be easy frameworks to make it all happen, but no." [programming]|06:37 Hjalfi says, "I eventually used sqlite." [programming]|06:37 marc says, "interesting" [programming]|06:37 marc says, "re: mongo, i meant with opa" [programming]|06:37 marc says, "since it's builtin" [programming]|06:38 Hjalfi says, "I needed a truly vast amount of nonsense --- including C++ generated at compile time --- to hook up the C++ objects that did the work to the database properties that made it happen." [programming]|06:39 marc says, "sounds godawful" [programming]|06:39 Hjalfi says, "The original version of the game was actually implemented as a standalone LambdaMOO core, where this all happened automatically. It was so much easier." [lounge]|06:47 borowski is now is glorious EXTRA COLOR! [programming]|06:48 Rob says, "so do you have plot and puzzles and concept art for this game project or just the backbone programming" [programming]|06:48 Hjalfi says, "Barebone programming, core mechanics, etc." [programming]|06:49 Rob asks, "are you going to hire anyone to do any of the creative half?" [programming]|06:49 Hjalfi says, "Nah. It's mainly a toy." [programming]|06:49 Rob says, "ah well" [lounge]|06:50 Rob says, "ok, time to play games or something" [lounge]|06:50 Rob moseys right on out. [obits]|06:52 * NewsBoy hollers, "Extra! Extra! borowski has posted message 446, about 'Doc Watson', to the bulletin board!" [lounge]|06:52 borowski says, "Morning" [lounge]|06:53 Petrosilius says, "Hiya." [lounge]|06:53 Richie says, "hullo everyone that has recently said hullo" [lounge]|06:56 Matthew says, "Good morning, all." [programming]|06:57 olethros says, "I like bareback programming" [headlines]|06:57 Matthew | Mexican Cartel Declares War on Cheetos [headlines]|06:58 DavidW says, "Ay crunchuma!" [headlines]|06:59 Fang | 'Too few poor students in medicine' [programming]|06:59 marc says, "bad for the balls though" [headlines]|06:59 Fang says, "time to increase tuition fees, that'll help" [programming]|07:00 Hjalfi says, "I always use a prophylactic, i.e. static types." [booze]|07:02 olethros says, "why do I smell ouzo" [booze]|07:04 DavidW says, "Must be a hole in the ouzo layer." [booze]|07:05 marc says, "ha ha" [booze]|07:06 olethros says, "yay" [lounge]|07:07 Gunther says, "it's a Matthew" [lounge]|07:08 marc says, "hey matthew" [penny-arcade]|07:11 Gunther says, "..." [lunch]|07:14 Gunther says, "mmm, pho bo" [lunch]|07:14 Gunther says, "tomorrow: dei mo" [Infocom]|07:15 Matthew says, "The Leather Goddesses of Pho Bo." [Infocom]|07:15 Gunther says, "that was the joke!" [Infocom]|07:16 Gunther says, "deimos, see" [lunch]|07:20 olethros asks, "they day after ve nu?" [movie]|07:21 Matthew says, "I don't know what to think of this Les Miserables trailer." [movie]|07:21 Gunther says, "is it...." [movie]|07:21 Gunther asks, "miserable?" [movie]|07:22 Gunther says, "YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH wpm" [movie]|07:22 Matthew says, "I'm not sure whether I should find it troubling that the only person heard singing is Anne Hathaway. If they think her vocals represent the movie at its best... dear lord." [movie]|07:22 Matthew says, "(Not that she's bad, but she's... uh... not exactly my vocal idea of Fantine, that's for sure.)" [movie]|07:22 Gunther asks, "it... unironically stars Borat?" [movie]|07:23 Gunther says, "FUS ROOOOOOOOOOO DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH" [movie]|07:23 Matthew asks, "He's playing Thenardier, I assueme?" [movie]|07:23 Matthew asks, "Er, assume?" [movie]|07:23 Gunther says, "yes" [movie]|07:23 Matthew says, "That's not horrifically inappropriate casting." [movie]|07:23 Gunther says, "Helena Bonham-Carter plays his wife" [movie]|07:24 Matthew says, "That's good casting, I would say." [movie]|07:24 Gunther says, "HBC is always good casting" [movie]|07:24 Matthew exclaims, "Although I didn't know she was allowed to do non-Tim Burton films these days!" [movie]|07:24 Gunther asks, "...Harry Potter?" [movie]|07:26 Matthew says, "But, well, I'm worried about Hugh Jackman (who can sing, and really well, but... Valjean?), Russell Crowe, Anne Hathaway now (I wasn't before), Samantha Barks (based on the 25th anniversary concert), and... that's about it. Aaron Tveit (a Broadway guy) is good casting for Enjolras, and I don't know enough about Amanda Seyfried to say whether she'll be a good Cossette. I'm also... apprehensive about Eddie Redmayne, who's a talented actor, but Wikipedia says he took singing lessons to play Marius, to which I can only respond, 'What, for 15 years? Because that's a really vocally challenging part, and if he just took six months or something, his songs are going to be tough to listen to.' But I'm trying to be optimistic about this." [movie]|07:27 Gunther says, "there's nothing that studio magic can't fix about shitty singers" [movie]|07:27 Gunther says, "cf. Britney Spears' whole career, to name but one" [movie]|07:29 Matthew says, "I mean, Nick Jonas has been singing his whole life, and he was a catastrophe in the 25th anniversary concert. You can't just put people in this roles indiscriminantly. Well, you can, but you shouldn't." [security]|07:29 Fang | When fully installed, its size is a whopping 20MB, and it also uses SQLite databases and dynamically generated code that uses the Lua programming language. Such characteristics suggest the malware, which Kaspersky estimates has been found on about 1,000 computer systems so far, could only have been written by a large team of highly skilled software engineers. [movie]|07:29 Matthew says (to Gunther), "But the thing is, they're doing the singing in this movie live. Which I think is a great idea in theory, but with these singers... I don't know." [movie]|07:29 Gunther says, "they *claim* that" [movie]|07:30 Matthew asks, "Why would they lie about that?" [movie]|07:30 Gunther asks, "it's hollywood?" [security]|07:30 Fang says, "this reasoning seems dubious" [movie]|07:30 Matthew says, "Anyway." [security]|07:31 Gunther says, "it's terrorism bullshit bingo" [security]|07:31 Gunther | The confidential warning will tell member nations that the Flame virus is a dangerous espionage tool that could potentially be used to attack critical infrastructure, he told Reuters in an interview on Tuesday. [security]|07:31 Gunther says, "how confidential." [movie]|07:31 Matthew says, "Also, I realize they're not going to do all three hours and fifteen minutes of the show, so I'm also, um, curious about what they'll cut." [security]|07:31 Gunther says, "here is some aluminum foil hat material for you:" [security]|07:31 Gunther says, "1) this "sample" is from the ITU." [security]|07:32 Gunther says, "2) the ITU wants a "global cyberterrorism treaty"" [security]|07:32 Fang says, "the behaviour of this malware seems pretty neat though" [security]|07:32 Fang | One plugin turns on the internal microphone of infected machines so Skype conversations can be secretly monitored in real time. [security]|07:32 Gunther says, "CCC:" [security]|07:32 Gunther | Sounds like something a defense contractor would do. "Let's make it easily scriptable" [security]|07:33 Gunther says, "much more interesting this paper on China-manufactured FPGAs:" [security]|07:33 Gunther | We scanned the silicon chip in an affordable time and found a previously unknown backdoor inserted by the manufacturer. This backdoor has a key, which we were able to extract. If you use this key you can disable the chip or reprogram it at will, even if locked by the user with their own key. This particular chip is prevalent in many systems from weapons, nuclear power plants to public transport. In other words, this backdoor access could be turned into an advanced Stuxnet weapon to attack potentially millions of systems [security]|07:34 Gunther says, "since it's a design-level backdoor, it probably wasn't added by China." [security]|07:34 Fang | Flame also contains some advanced features that were first found in Stuxnet. An infection mechanism that exploits a Windows "Autorun" feature in USB drives is one such example [security]|07:34 Fang says, "how advanced" [security]|07:34 Gunther | "They should be on alert," he said, adding that he believed Flame was likely built on behalf of a nation state. [security]|07:34 Gunther says, "yes, the US" [security]|07:35 Gunther says, "or Israel, I guess" [kitties]|07:36 borowski says, "My cat is not happy about the rain." [kitties]|07:37 borowski says, "She had an appointment to watch some birds I guess." [kitties]|07:38 Gunther says, "hee" [security]|07:40 Fang says, "I just like how Lua, Sqlite, large file size, uses autorun.ini are pointers for government covert operation these days" [security]|07:41 Hjalfi says, "Guy at work commenting that at 20MB, and including it's own SQL database, Flame doesn't really count as a virus. Since it contains multiple semiindependent modules, it's more of a nematode." [security]|07:41 Fang says, "it's probably 20MB because it has to include Lua libraries" [security]|07:42 Gunther says, "I'm impressed it's not using mysql" [movie]|07:42 Matthew says, "And, of course, my theatre Twitter feed is full of people going nuts (in a good way) for the trailer." [movie]|07:42 Matthew says, "I mean, the movie looks good. But it sounds... uh... yeah." [security]|07:42 Hjalfi says (to Gunther), "Dude. That really would be evil." [sf]|07:43 Gunther asks, "oh, Alastair Reynolds, how can I take you seriously as a sf writer ever again?" [sf]|07:43 Gunther | Forgot that there was a cd on pause in my player [UK]|07:44 Fang says, "hahaha sigh http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/may/30/police-gadget-scheme-woeful-savings " [lounge]|07:44 Oren nikhnas l'atraklin. [lounge]|07:44 Oren says, "hello" [UK]|07:44 Fang | A ?71m scheme to give police officers and staff a smartphone and other devices, which was supposed to save ?125m by reducing paperwork, has yielded just ?600,000 in savings. [movie]|07:44 Gunther says, "If only I'd ever seen/read even a second/word of any version of Les Mis I could comment" [lounge]|07:44 Fang says, "hi" [UK]|07:45 Gunther asks, "which of those figures do or don't factor in the 71 mil?" [UK]|07:45 Fang says, "none of them do" [UK]|07:46 Gunther says, "so it would have saved (125,000,000 - 71,000,000) and instead cost (71,000,000 - 600,000)" [UK]|07:46 Fang says, "yes" [movie]|07:46 borowski says, "I think the basic plot is 'shit happens.'" [UK]|07:46 Gunther says, "I can't believe I was too lazy to calculate that" [movie]|07:46 Gunther asks, "does anyone eat cakw?" [movie]|07:46 Gunther says, "cake" [UK]|07:46 Fang says, "I'm not sure how blackberries were supposed to reduce paperwork" [UK]|07:47 Fang asks, "were police supposed to send in their reports by text message?" [UK]|07:48 Gunther says, "AHAHAHA blackberries" [movie]|07:48 borowski says, "Hmmm. I don't remember. Let me reread the book real quick." [UK]|07:48 Gunther says, "sorry, I thought they said smartphones" [satsq]|07:50 Gunther says, "not really a q but" [satsq]|07:50 Gunther | Free Wi-Fi with that coffee? Why cafes are embracing an age of connectivity [satsq]|07:50 Gunther says, "because $" [Infocom]|07:52 * borowski has joined the channel. [security]|07:52 * borowski has joined the channel. [movie]|07:57 Matthew asks (of Gunther), "Wait, you don't know anything about Les Miz at all?" [kids]|07:57 Fang says, "oh haha http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/gallery/2012/may/30/terrifying-french-childrens-books-in-pictures " [movie]|07:57 Matthew says, "I really thought you would have seen it or heard it at some point." [movie]|07:58 Matthew says, "Anyway, for those who haven't seen it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpojeVWb96U&feature=youtu.be " [space]|07:59 Hjalfi says, "I hadn't realised that the new SpaceX launch contract was for the Falcon *Heavy*." [movie]|07:59 Gunther says, "I know there's a Jean Valjean and something something French revolution" [space]|07:59 Hjalfi says, "Apparently it'll be the biggest US rocket since the Saturn V." [movie]|07:59 Matthew says, "It's A French revolution, but not THE French Revolution." [movie]|08:00 Gunther says, "I also now know that I don't like the song in the trailer" [movie]|08:00 Matthew says, "Well, it may help if you hear it actually sung." [movie]|08:01 Gunther says, "...oh was that what Susan Boyle sang" [kids]|08:01 Fang says, "this seems freudian http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/gallery/2012/may/30/terrifying-french-childrens-books-in-pictures#/?picture=390846405&index=9 " [movie]|08:02 Matthew says, "It was." [kids]|08:02 DavidW says, "index=7 seemed a bit suggestive too." [movie]|08:02 Gunther says, "well maybe they should've cast her" [movie]|08:03 Matthew says, "Uh. No." [kids]|08:03 Fang says, "number 12 takes it literally." [movie]|08:04 Matthew asks (of Gunther), "Do you have Spotify?" [kids]|08:04 Fang | "The Silent Child". Brrr. She stops being silent by cutting the grisly thread that stiches her dolly's mouth together. The last page, by the way, doesn't show that anything has changed; she's still sad and alone. The dolly has her mouth open, though. I haven't the faintest what the moral is supposed to be [movie]|08:05 Gunther says, "no, because I deleted my Facebook account" [lounge]|08:07 Nitku doesn't even know what glutz is! [movie]|08:08 Gunther says, "it's ok, though, I don't like these other three versions either" [videogames]|08:12 Nitku asks, "Why is it that extraction helicopters always fuel only the exact amount of petrol they need plus about 2-3 minutes?" [videogames]|08:13 Fang says, "budget cuts" [movie]|08:13 Matthew says, "It's not my favorite song in the show, either, but it's been sung better many, many times." [movie]|08:14 Gunther says, "I liked the LuPone version best of those I tried" [videogames]|08:14 Gunther says (to Nitku), "they know they'll be downed by a missile/zombie/shark anyway" [DustWorld]|08:15 DavidW says, "hm, I think I should eat breakfast before doing anything else." [programming]|08:17 Ryan asks, "What's the general term for statements that interrupt normal control flow, like break, continue, next, goto, etc.?" [programming]|08:18 Gunther says, "hmm#" [obits]|08:19 Ryan says, "Aw man, first Earl Scruggs, then Doc Watson? Bluegrass is having a rough year." [programming]|08:19 Gunther says, "this says 'jump statements'" [videogames]|08:22 borowski says, "Preferably by a zombie shark missile." [programming]|08:24 Ryan says, "Hmm. I don't think that's a terribly clear name. I guess I will just describe them." [politics]|08:25 Gunther asks, "control flow interrupts?" [politics]|08:25 Gunther says, "ilac" [greece]|08:25 olethros says, "the situation is fucked up in every conceivable way" [programming]|08:25 Gunther asks, "control flow interrupts?" [programming]|08:26 Gunther says, "Statements Considered Harmful By Those Who Don't Know It All Comes Down To Goto In Assembly Anyway" [programming]|08:28 olethros says, "one thing I hate is 'savoire faire' for programmers" [quotations]|08:29 Gunther says, "'gotta milk this rhyme like cereal'" [quotations]|08:30 olethros says, "agh" [lounge]|08:31 Rob comes right on in. Recapped 169 of 2762 lines from recent channels. Current time: Wednesday, 30 May 2012, 08:31:59 AM EDT There is one new message on #alt/obits. Rob says, "blrt" olethros was so annoyed he sat down and angrily wobbled his jowls for a full 45 minutes. olethros says, "have I been missing on hot lounge action yet again? tsk tsk" [movie] Rob asks, "fus roo dah?" [quotations] Ryan says, "venereal, ethereal, sidereal" [movie] Gunther says, "it's a dragon shout from Skyrim" [movie] Rob says, "oh" [movie] Rob says, "I guess I never got that one" [movie] Rob says, "what did it do" [movie] Gunther says, "it's the first one!" [movie] Rob says, "oh ok I guess it wasn't that memorable then" [movie] Gunther says, "force push" [movie] Rob asks, "the force-shout?" [movie] Rob says, "november was a long time ago" [movie] Gunther says, "also easier to remember than SU GRAH DUN" [movie] Gunther says, "(Elemental Rage)" [movie] Gunther says, "er, Fury. Which isn't even elemental, it just makes you attack faster" [movie] Gunther says, "and the only applicable shout, 'meteor storm', is N/A" [austria] olethros says, "who is this maria fekter person" Rob hears a neighbor shout, "OUCH! STOP IT! Bad bird!" [austria] Gunther says, "nazi giga-supercunt" [austria] Rob says, "an austrian director just won the cannes palme d'or" [austria] olethros says, "awesome" [austria] Gunther says, "former minister of interior and deforeignerfication" [austria] Rob says, "fekter? feckt her" [austria] Gunther says, "now minister of finance" [austria] olethros asks, "oh really. How come?" It really sucks when the tonsorial humuhumunukunukuapuaa is A volleyball [austria] Gunther says (to Rob), "yeah, Haneke, for the second time" [austria] olethros says, "I forgot, cabinet posts are not related to competene" [austria] Gunther says, "I find his stuff utterly unwatchable, but whatevs" [austria] Rob says, "toadying bureaucrats and the nakedly ambitious" 3. Many cash registers still put the DVD in the piggywig and ZIL is the Infocom language of the Z machine. [apropos-of-nothing] Gunther says, "words I never thought I'd see knowyourmeme use: deuteragonist" [apropos-of-nothing] Rob says, "what does that break down to" [apropos-of-nothing] Gunther says, "second fiddle to the protagonist" [apropos-of-nothing] olethros says, "whattheheckisknowyourmeme" [apropos-of-nothing] Gunther says, " http://knowyourmeme.com " [apropos-of-nothing] Gunther says, "it explains memes" [apropos-of-nothing] Rob | Deuter is a German New Age instrumentalist and recording artist known for his meditative style that blends Eastern and Western musical styles. [apropos-of-nothing] Gunther | One of the game’s playable characters is Private James Ramirez, the deuteragonist of the campaign that is first introduced in the “Wolverines!” mission. According to the Call of Duty Wiki[1], Sergeant Foley gives a total of 56 scripted orders to Ramirez during the game. [apropos-of-nothing] Rob says, "oh is that what deuter- means" [apropos-of-nothing] Rob says, "twofer" [apropos-of-nothing] borowski says, "Ah, the deuteragonist comes before the tritagonist." [apropos-of-nothing] Gunther says, "what, new ag.. oh" [apropos-of-nothing] Gunther says, "Deuteronomy was the second-most important prophet after Pronomony" [apropos-of-nothing] olethros says, "while a trigonist is somebody that makes triangles" [apropos-of-nothing] borowski says, "Ha" [apropos-of-nothing] Rob says, "tritagonist rex was my favorite dinosaur" [apropos-of-nothing] Gunther says, "the fourth one was usually called alsoranist" [apropos-of-nothing] Gunther says, "or of course redshirtist" [apropos-of-nothing] Rob says, "deuterobanana" [apropos-of-nothing] olethros asks (of Rob), "???" [apropos-of-nothing] Gunther says, "now note Star Trek TOS's clear greek-drama structure of protagonist, deuteragonist and tritagonist" [apropos-of-nothing] olethros asks, "and who's the chorus?" [apropos-of-nothing] Gunther says, "and all the other Treks' lack thereof and, thus, ultimate failure" [apropos-of-nothing] Rob says, "hm true" [apropos-of-nothing] Gunther says (to olethros), "Uhura" [apropos-of-nothing] Rob says, "trek! the musical" [apropos-of-nothing] olethros says, "mmmmmm" [apropos-of-nothing] Gunther says, "Trek! A-aaaaah! Explorers of the universe!" [apropos-of-nothing] Rob says, "scotty beam me out of heeeeeeeere" [apropos-of-nothing] Rob says, "that should have said :sings," [apropos-of-nothing] olethros says, "leaping phaser fights" [apropos-of-nothing] Rob says, "the gorn aria" Thunder rumbles quietly overhead. Jota is gone. [apropos-of-nothing] Rob says, "that moby dick revenge speech of khan's from star trek 2 set to music" [robmumble] Rob says, "hm I got a good idea for this WIP a few minutes ago" [apropos-of-nothing] Gunther says, "from hell's heart I stab at thee, stab at thee; from hell's heart I stab at thee, whale" [robmumble] Rob says, "I should probably go and work on it instead of daydreaming about star trek musicals" [apropos-of-nothing] Rob says, "khan's crew: yo ho ho, hello sailor" [apropos-of-nothing] Gunther says, "snicker" Rob says, "back later" Rob heads right on out. Find release from your cares. have a good time. Seeya later.