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ifMUD
An interactive real time social network chat bulletin board
quotebook url database with a parrot bot
Copyright 1997-2007 by Loungent Technologies, a wholly owned subsidiary of
rec.[arts|games].int-fiction; All rights reserved.
Release 4 / Serial number 990908 / perlMUD v2.1z
    "The characters were mostly of the cardboard cutout variety.
    I wanted to punch everyone except the one Scottish guy."
         --Jearl
  NOTE: Whenever a fix or enhancement is in place, it will be announced
  on the channel '#mud-updates'.
  OTHER NOTE: There is a mailing list where people can say things like
  "hey, the mud's down, what's up with that?" In fact, since this is
  the only thing the list is used for, you should join it if you are
  interested in this subject. To join, go to
    http://groups.google.com/group/ifmud/
  or talk to Steve.
Robinson Manor
A gracious, welcoming, airy space. Music drifts in from unseen speakers. A picture window on the southern wall provides a pleasant source of light and a sense of openness.
You can see: teleporter, a picture window, comfy sofa, Jeopardy podium, buzzer1, buzzer2, buzzer3, Jota greets Rob
Visible Exits: west, east
<Rob> Olly says, "Golly."
No new channels have been created since your last check.
Adventurer's Lounge
Candles on the wood-panelled walls create a comfortably dark atmosphere. Hand-drawn maps are taped to nearly every surface -- the walls, the ceiling, the trophy case in the corner. Seating is plentiful. A small storage closet is to the north.
You can see: new laundry list, Birthday Calendar, magic laundry list, blank banner, Even Newer World Map, charset sampler, Automeeter, TheMasterTheorem player names, time zones, MUD Client Wish List
Players: Alex, Jon, markm, Bishop, Doug, GDorn, Touchy, DorianX, Jearl, Psmith, lpsmith, annabianca, Whizzard, Allen, Ryan, Dave, Grocible, ghira, baf, McMartin, jess, vaporware, Matthew, DavidW, vimes, maga, genericgeekgirl, Richie, schep, zaphod, Marktwo, Gunther, boucher, Oren, olethros, marc, Nitku, borowski, Fang
Visible Exits: north, west, southwest, southeast, up, east
Rob comes right on in.
Recapping 1000 of 3206 lines from recent channels:
[xkcd]/15:01 josh_g says, "ha ha ha"
[lounge]|15:02 Fang is a veritable smorgasbord of visual variables.
[xkcd]|15:03 Fang says, "well, there's lots of other authors with surnames beginning with Ra"
[GirlGenius]|15:03 Jota says, "Mmm."
[jobs]|15:10 Dave says, "gig.Contracted = true;"
[Europe]|15:10 olethros says, "oh man"
[Europe]|15:10 olethros says, "when the EU Commission and the web meet"
[Europe]|15:10 olethros says, "A#%R*#%(*@#Y%@(#*&%"
[jobs]|15:11 Roger says, "Hey good deal"
[jobs]|15:11 Roger asks, "Did you get that week off too?"
[jobs]|15:11 inky says, "nice work"
[people-suk]|15:11 Jota asks, "Dave has another new job?"
[jobs]|15:12 Dave says, "no"
[people-suk]|15:12 inky says, "he didn't get fired or quit from the last one, the contract just ended"
[jobs]|15:12 Dave says, "this gig is with a friend and he needs me asap"
[jobs]|15:12 Roger says, "Oh"
[people-suk]|15:12 Jota says, "Oh, ah."
[people-suk]|15:13 Gunther says, "well, it ended prematurely, I think"
[jobs]|15:13 Dave says, "so that's cool"
[jobs]|15:14 Dave says, "RedBox"
[jobs]|15:15 Dave says, "my friends is the dev manager of the kiosk UI"
[quotations]|15:18 Gunther | Russian dolls are so full of themselves
[quotations]|15:19 Matthew says, "Hee hee."
[jobs]|15:20 schep says, "cool. keep an eye out for easter egg code"
[snacks]|15:21 katre says, "accidentally grabbed tuna salad with my carrots, instead of hummus"
[snacks]|15:21 katre says, "carrot and tuna is surprisingly good"
[snacks]|15:21 katre says, "tuna with jalapeno in it is not"
[snacks]|15:21 Matthew says, "Aww."
[snacks]|15:21 inky says, "ha ha"
[snacks]|15:21 Gunther says, "what? it so is"
[lounge]|15:22 Recchi enters the lounge, triumphantly hoisting object #31337.
[Skyrim]|15:24 Tale says, "Oh dear, reached that #growing weary / to far in to stop point-"
[Skyrim]|15:24 Tale says, "The third dungeon that toally surprises you by having Falmer in a Dwarven ruin!"
[Skyrim]|15:25 katre says, "how could it be!"
[Skyrim]|15:25 Tale says, "And then... Dwarven Centurions!"
[Skyrim]|15:25 Gunther says, "solution: install My Little Pony mod"
[Skyrim]|15:25 katre asks, "which one?"
[Skyrim]|15:25 Tale says, "Blacksomething"
[Skyrim]|15:25 katre says, "heh"
[jobs]|15:25 GDorn asks, "Blackdarkmoor?"
[jobs]|15:26 GDorn says, "er"
[Skyrim]|15:26 Tale says, "the vista of the bit where I am in now was pretty impressive"
[Skyrim]|15:26 GDorn asks, "Blackdarkmoor?"
[Skyrim]|15:26 katre asks, "blackreach?"
[Skyrim]|15:26 Tale says (to katre), "yeah"
[Skyrim]|15:26 katre says, "I haven't been there but I've heard of it"
[Skyrim]|15:26 Tale says, "I had that moment of literally going "Whoa""
[Skyrim]|15:26 Tale says, "then I was attacked by some Falmer"
[lounge]|15:27 djfletch can produce a dozen witnesses to swear he was elsewhere.
[Skyrim]|15:27 GDorn says, "yeah, Blackreach is pretty cool, and huge."
[snacks]|15:27 Jota says, "Tuna with jalapen~os *sounds* like it should be good..."
[snacks]|15:28 Lucea says, "maybe a tuna steak"
[snacks]|15:28 Gunther says (to Jota), "und it is"
[snacks]|15:28 Jota says, "Especially compared with tuna with celery or onions in it."
[snacks]|15:28 Ryan says, "I love tuna with jalapenos."
[snacks]|15:28 Gunther says, "tunapenos"
[snacks]|15:28 Jota asks (of Gunther), "Wait, you do know that tuna aren't mammals or birds or reptiles, right?"
[snacks]|15:29 Gunther says, "(canned) tuna is the only fish I actually like"
[snacks]|15:29 Gunther says, "it is inexplicable"
[snacks]|15:29 Ryan asks, "Only canned? Not pouch?"
[snacks]|15:29 Gunther asks, "pouch?"
[snacks]|15:29 Jota says, "It is possible, here, to also get tuna in metal vacuum-sealed pouches."
[snacks]|15:29 Gunther says, "never seen that"
[snacks]|15:29 Jota says, "Which can probably be considered honorary cans."
[snacks]|15:30 Jota says, "( http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-o-J2_uA3Txc/TWQevFy7ZaI/AAAAAAAAAAw/YgxUKtBMDIg/s1600/chunklightwater_pouch_0.jpg )"
[snacks]|15:30 Gunther says, "huh"
[Skyrim]|15:30 Tale says, "I redeemed for some of the repetiveness before"
[snacks]|15:31 Jota says, "I think the vacuum-sealing means they don't need to pack it in as much liquid."
[lounge]|15:32 Tale is fired from breathing.
[lounge]|15:32 * Tale has disconnected.
[lounge]|15:32 inky says, "zoot"
[lounge]|15:32 inky exists more as a conversation starter about the future of food delivery than an actual startup plan or business.
[lounge]|15:34 Felix waves good night.
[lounge]|15:34 Hugo enters, the words MUD LIFE freshly tattooed across his chest.
[lounge]|15:34 Felix goes home.
[SPAG]|15:35 Recchi says, "Huh, it's been over a year"
[lounge]|15:38 Tale's first civilian job after World War I was at the Oxford English Dictionary, where he worked mainly on the history and etymology of words of Germanic origin beginning with the letter W.
[lounge]|15:38 Tale says, "re"
[SPAG]|15:39 Nitku says, "Yeah, it's a shame"
[SPAG]|15:39 Nitku says, "I hope the zine's not dead"
[SPAG]|15:40 Gunther asks, "well did you write for it??"
[SPAG]|15:40 Nitku says, "I don't think it's because there would be no material"
[SPAG]|15:40 olethros says, "it's openjournalism"
[SPAG]|15:41 zarf asks (of olethros), "what?"
[SPAG]|15:41 Dave says, "oh wow"
[people-suk]|15:41 josh_g says, "ugh, I feel like such a dork for getting sucked into that time-wasting #religion discussion"
[SPAG]|15:41 Dave asks, "what happend?"
[people-suk]|15:41 josh_g says, "sucked all my mental energy away"
[mozilla]|15:42 olethros says, "new thunderbird is somewhat sleeker and fast"
[people-suk]|15:42 Gunther says, "I'm not a fan of religion but I want to slap everyone involved every time anyway"
[people-suk]|15:42 Jota asks, "I really, really shouldn't @recap, right?"
[people-suk]|15:42 josh_g says, "no, it's not worth it"
[people-suk]|15:42 katre says, "there's a reason I left the channel"
[people-suk]|15:42 Jota says (to katre), "Yeah."
[people-suk]|15:42 josh_g says (to katre), "yeah, sorry about that"
[SPAG]|15:43 Dave says, "Dave was at PAX and seemed pretty on top of things"
[people-suk]|15:43 katre says (to josh), "it certainly wasn't _your_ fault"
[SPAG]|15:43 Dave says, "PAX last year, that is"
[people-suk]|15:43 josh_g says, "maybe but it clearly wasn't worth adding fuel to the fire"
[SPAG]|15:43 zarf says, "and he got out one issue after that, as I recall"
[SPAG]|15:44 Tale says, "I'm tempted to ask him on FB"
[SPAG]|15:44 Dave asks, "and there hasn't been a replacement?"
[SPAG]|15:44 Dave says, "I think I know someone that might take it over"
[MacOS]|15:44 marc says, "hmm"
[SPAG]|15:44 Dave says, "Ed Blair from the chicago if group"
[MacOS]|15:44 marc says, "maybe applescript is the answer -- execute the application then raise the terminal"
[people-suk]|15:44 josh_g says, "anyway, if you catch me doing that again in the future, just slap me on this channel or something"
[people-suk]|15:45 Gunther says, "oh, no, I mean I feel the demiurge (HA HA) to slap Lionheart and DX"
[hardware]|15:45 josh_g says, "the pain of knowing how to fix a problem on a borrowed computer, but not having the admin rights to do it"
[holidays]|15:45 olethros says, "hey it is not a holiday here tomorrow!"
[people-suk]|15:46 Gunther says, "get it, demiurge! it's funny bec oh never mind"
[people-suk]|15:46 josh_g says, "hee hee"
[people-suk]|15:46 josh_g says, "strangely, DX wasn't even being that slapworthy this time"
[holidays]|15:46 Roger asks, "It's more of a Communist Bloc thing isn't it?"
[holidays]|15:46 Gunther says, "yup"
[holidays]|15:47 Gunther says, "all of Communist Austria is Mayparading and stealing maypoles and stuff"
[holidays]|15:47 Roger says, "Sweet"
[holidays]|15:47 olethros says, "nah, worker's day! it's for all workers!"
[holidays]|15:47 olethros says, "if you don't celebrate it, you are a sloth!"
[holidays]|15:47 josh_g says, "in Mother Russia, day work you!"
[hardware]|15:47 Dave says, "few things bother me more at work"
[hardware]|15:48 Dave says, "this is why I always try to get clients to give me my own server for development"
[holidays]|15:48 Roger says, "huzzah Worker and Parasite"
[hardware]|15:48 josh_g says, "teachers here have Lenovo tablets, but when I rotate the screen to tablet mode the pen doesn't reorient itself to the screen's rotation"
[holidays]|15:48 baf says, "Some of the Occupiers have been trying to organize a general strike for the day."
[SPAG]|15:49 Tale asks, "has anyone talked to dave in the last year?"
[holidays]|15:49 baf says, "I personally witnessed one of them trying to convince the driver of the bus I take to work of the merits of this plan."
[music]|15:51 Gunther says, "donated to Stacey"
[music]|15:51 Gunther says, "she just wrote back claiming she's going to pop back onMUD"
[SPAG]|15:52 Nitku asks, "He was at PAX again, wasn't he?"
[obama-sux]|15:52 GDorn | Obama ad says Mitt Romney's view on killing bin Laden was 'it's not worth moving heaven and earth'
[obama-sux]|15:52 GDorn asks, "really?  that's a platform to campaign on?  Obama is way more vengeful than bin Laden?"
[SPAG]|15:52 Lucea says, "I heard about some sort of call for submissions umpteen months ago, but nothing since"
[lounge]|15:52 Grocible says, "evening all"
[obama-sux]|15:53 Gunther says, "I'm siding with Romney here, yes"
[obama-sux]|15:53 GDorn | http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/apr/30/barack-obama/obama-ad-says-mitt-romneys-view-killing-bin-laden/
[obama-sux]|15:53 Gunther says, "though McCain, who is now condemning Obama, called Romney 'naive' when he originally said it"
[obama-sux]|15:53 Gunther says, "so as usual everyone is a petty lying fuck"
[obama-sux]|15:53 GDorn says, "oh, but the Rmoney camp is jumping all over itself to claim that no, they're really just as bloodthirsty, that quote was just out of context."
[obama-sux]|15:54 Gunther says, "IRYTMPS then"
[MacOS]|15:56 marc | sh -c 'nanosleep 50; osascript -e "tell application \"Terminal\" to activate"' &
[MacOS]|15:56 marc | <app>
[lounge]|15:57 Ellison arrives from the east.
[lounge]|15:57 Ellison says, "hey all"
[videogames]|15:58 McMartin says, "The XBLA division of that competition was permanently canceled after I MA3D A GAEM WITH Z0MB13S IN IT!!!11!! was a breakout hint"
[videogames]|15:58 McMartin says, "*hit"
[MacOS]|15:58 marc says, "oh, nanosleep is wrong -- it's unnecessary though"
[webtv]|15:59 Gunther says, "goddammit, Man vs Wild"
[webtv]|15:59 Gunther says, "you are the dumbest"
[lounge]|16:01 Recchi exclaims (at Ellison), "Welcome!"
[exercise]|16:02 olethros says, "I must plan the races I am going to participate in"
[lounge]|16:02 Ellison says, "thanks!"
[MacOS]|16:02 marc says, "it's just,"
[MacOS]|16:02 marc | osascript -e "tell application \"Terminal\" to activate" &
[MacOS]|16:02 marc | <app>
[lounge]|16:03 Tale says (to Ellison), "sod off"
[lounge]|16:03 Ellison says, "no thanks!"
[lounge]|16:06 Recchi says, "I don't think he meant that."
[lounge]|16:06 DavidW says, "oh, those two always bicker like that."
[videogames]|16:11 McMartin says, "I seem to have forgotten to link this yesterday"
[videogames]|16:11 McMartin |  https://hkn.eecs.berkeley.edu/~mcmartin/fallout2_oy.png
[videogames]|16:11 Gunther says, "ha ha ha"
[videogames]|16:16 Ryan says, "wut"
[lounge]|16:17 Ellison goes back to Squeamhurst..
[lounge]|16:17 * Ellison has disconnected.
[videogames]|16:17 McMartin says, "Due to the fact that the games permit wholesale murder of all NPCs including the children, the Fallout games were censored in Europe to remove the children"
[videogames]|16:17 Ryan says, "Ah"
[videogames]|16:17 McMartin says, "Or, actually, make them invisible and invincible, which did mean they'd still pickpocket you."
[videogames]|16:18 Tale says, "they looked like adults and were killable"
[videogames]|16:18 Tale says, "so you'd have children = 12 in your karma list"
[begood]|16:18 Johnny says, "crb"
[lounge]|16:18 Johnny does like justice, but that's taking it a bit far.
[headlines]|16:20 Gunther | Don't believe the headlines. Wind farms do not cause 'global' warming.
[headlines]|16:20 Gunther says, "I despair at the stupidity of humankind once again"
[shadowrun]|16:21 Tale says, "ha ha"
[shadowrun]|16:21 Tale says, "part of my char sheet is a picture of an eagle, swooping down"
[shadowrun]|16:22 katre says, "already excellent"
[lounge]|16:22 josh_g will call him Pootel; Henry Pootel for short.
[shadowrun]|16:22 Tale says, "my gm has written an arrow beneath it :you are here!"
[headlines]|16:22 olethros asks, "haven't you given up yet?"
[Gathering]|16:24 * NewsBoy hollers, "Extra! Extra! zarf has posted message 4, about 'Wiki page', to the bulletin board! You spend as much time 'abusing the BB' as the next girl..."
[lounge]|16:25 zarf walks off through the wall; vivid gold light flares briefly around him.
[kickstarter]|16:25 Gunther says, "more lineups! http://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/projects/107066/posts/217815/image-111828-full.jpg?1335812700 "
[names]|16:31 Ryan says, "There's a town in North Carolina named Bee Log."
[names]|16:32 borowski says, "Also one called Lizard Lick."
[names]|16:32 borowski says, "But I think it's really more of an intersection."
[names]|16:32 Tale says, "Lizard Lick should be a punk band"
[lounge]|16:33 Sslaxx arrives from the east.
[videogames]|16:33 Gunther watches 20 minutes of people utterly hating Fable Heroes, making the series 0 for 4
[names]|16:34 Lucea says, "I feel like I should have visited these places before leaving"
[lounge]|16:34 baf says, "A friend gifted me a steam copy of Analogue: A Hate Story."
[lounge]|16:34 baf asks, "You know what it reminds me of a lot?"
[lounge]|16:34 Gunther says, "mixedest message ever"
[lounge]|16:35 baf says, "Portal. It reminds me of Portal."
[lounge]|16:35 Gunther says, "good news! there's a Portal kickstarter"
[lounge]|16:35 baf says, "The 1986 Activision portal, I mean."
[lounge]|16:35 Gunther says, "well, what else"
[lounge]|16:36 baf says, "Absent human population, AI guide that unlocks documents that slowly reveal backstory"
[names]|16:36 borowski says, "I've been meaning to take a miniroad-trip around the state and visit little towns like that."
[lounge]|16:36 baf says, "Except it takes advantage of the structure a lot better than Portal did."
[lounge]|16:37 baf says, "Revealing documents nonlinearly, giving the AIs their own conflicting agendas that don't necessarily agree with your own and inducing the player to lie to them in order to gain access to more documents"
[lounge]|16:37 Gunther says, "but Portal predicted the internet! in 1986"
[lounge]|16:38 baf says, "It predicted something not entirely unlike an internet."
[lounge]|16:38 Gunther says, "which existed in 1986."
[lounge]|16:38 baf says, "Just... mostly unlike an internet."
[lounge]|16:39 baf says, "The thing that Portal predicted didn't exist in 1986, and still doesn't."
[books]|16:39 Tale says, "I haven't seen much mention of the facts that the Neuromancer trilogy has aliens."
[lounge]|16:39 Gunther says, "jus' quotin' the kickstarter!"
[lounge]|16:40 Fang asks (of baf), "so you're enjoying it?"
[lounge]|16:40 baf says, "Yeah."
[books]|16:40 katre asks, "it does?"
[books]|16:41 baf asks, "Trilogy?"
[books]|16:41 Jota says, "What baf said."
[books]|16:41 Tale asks, "Hm, spoilers foranyone?"
[books]|16:41 Jota says, "You have spoiled the fact that it had sequels."
[lounge]|16:42 Fang says, "cool"
[books]|16:42 Tale says, "Neuromancer ends with the revelation that Wintermute found an AI at Alpha Centauri."
[books]|16:42 Gunther says (to baf), "Neuromancer / Count Zero / Mona Lisa Overdrive"
[books]|16:42 katre says, "I don't remember that, but the last 20 pages or so are entirely confusing and I can never remember any of it anyway"
[lounge]|16:43 baf says, "Also, it seems reasonably short. I've apparently got to 53% completion in 2 hours."
[huh]|16:43 Bishop | QLT tells us they have over 300,000 customers who lease [landline telephone handsets].
[books]|16:43 Tale says, "Luckily Gibson has been getting so much better at writing endings *cough*"
[books]|16:44 Gunther says, "the word 'wintermute' is literally all I remember of the 6 Gibson books I read"
[books]|16:45 Tale says, "At the end of MLD they're off to alpha centauri in some metaphysical way"
[books]|16:46 Tale says, "So in a way it's the whole point of the trilogy"
[books]|16:48 olethros says, "to give the reader the finger"
[books]|16:49 Tale says, "heh"
[names]|16:50 borowski says, "I might skip Shacktown and go to Money Island Beach instead."
[research]|16:50 Fang asks, "Hmm, what does EC stand for, wrt the peer review process?"
[research]|16:50 Fang asks, "editorial coordinator?"
[lounge]|16:51 baf checks out that kickstarter. I like the touch that they're asking for $900k. Like, asking for a full million would be overreaching a bit. Best to play it modest.
[lounge]|16:52 Gunther says, "should've asked for $9000"
[research]|16:53 olethros asks, "editor chair?"
[lounge]|16:53 Gunther says, "also, this has pretty much the worst reward tiers of any kickstarter I've seen"
[research]|16:54 olethros says, "maybe editor in chief"
[research]|17:02 Fang says, "problem is... there are two"
[journalism]|17:03 Gunther says, "hate."
[journalism]|17:03 Gunther | The number of babies born addicted to the class of drugs that includes prescription painkillers has nearly tripled in the past decade, according to the first national study of its kind
[research]|17:03 Fang says (to olethros), "I have a paper I submitted in November"
[lounge]|17:03 Tale is fired from breathing.
[lounge]|17:03 * Tale has disconnected.
[research]|17:03 Fang says, "that I still haven't heard back about"
[journalism]|17:04 Gunther says, "I will let you guess what the number is now."
[research]|17:04 Fang says, "on the website, it's listed as under review, though"
[research]|17:04 Fang asks, "would it be worth bugging them about it?"
[lounge]|17:04 Tale's first civilian job after World War I was at the Oxford English Dictionary, where he worked mainly on the history and etymology of words of Germanic origin beginning with the letter W.
[lounge]|17:04 McMartin asks, "What about that potato person making the Bestest MMO Ever OMG?"
[journalism]|17:04 Gunther says, "if you guessed 0.34%, you were right."
[lounge]|17:05 Gunther says, "ha ha"
[journalism]|17:05 baf says, "So, about one in 300? That actually sounds alarmingly high to me."
[lounge]|17:05 Gunther says, "is that still going"
[journalism]|17:06 Gunther says, "that's usually not what you're trying to imply with 'triple', though"
[lounge]|17:06 Ellison arrives from the east.
[workplace]|17:06 Allen says, "I went home and got 40 minutes of sleep"
[workplace]|17:06 Allen says, "before I was called"
[workplace]|17:06 Allen says, "sigh"
[workplace]|17:06 Allen says, "I had a cat sleeping on my legs"
[lounge]|17:07 McMartin says, "64 hours to go!"
[lounge]|17:07 McMartin says, "$21,216 pledged of $1,100,000 goal"
[workplace]|17:07 baf says, "Well, that's that then. You can't go back to work. You'd wake the cat."
[workplace]|17:07 Tale asks, "what kind of job do you do?"
[lounge]|17:08 McMartin says, "Obviously his error was his hubris in asking for a seven-digit investment"
[lounge]|17:08 Gunther says, "obviously"
[lounge]|17:09 Gunther says, "extra ha ha for potato person"
[lounge]|17:09 baf exclaims, "Unlike the Portal guys!"
[lounge]|17:09 Gunther says, "I bet the Portal guys are thinking "what did we do wrong :C""
[lounge]|17:09 Recchi says, "Potato person," ha haha"
[eeeagh]|17:09 Bishop | A California man has sued BMW North America and a motorcycle-seat maker claiming that a four-hour round-trip ride on his 1993 BMW bike with a "ridge-like" seat gave him "a severe case of priapism (a persistent, lasting erection)" that's lasted 20 months and counting.
[lounge]|17:10 McMartin says, "Step 1: Be Brian Fargo"
[lounge]|17:10 Gunther says (to McMartin), "yeah, or Tim Schafer, or Jane Jensen, or Al Lowe"
[lounge]|17:10 baf says, "I can point you to a blog post I did a few years ago with some answers to that."
[lounge]|17:10 McMartin | http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/120873716/your-world
[lounge]|17:10 McMartin says, "This person is *not* Brian Fargo"
[lounge]|17:10 Recchi asks, "There's a kickstarter for a game called Portal?"
[lounge]|17:10 Gunther says (to McMartin), "no, he's Mr. Potatohead McPearshape"
[lounge]|17:10 Gunther says, "an Idea Man(tm)"
[lounge]|17:11 Gunther says, "oh, right, this has even worse reward tiers than Portal"
[lounge]|17:11 Gunther says (to Recchi), "yes, Portal: A Hypertext Adventure, Activision 1986"
[lounge]|17:11 baf says (to Recchi), "It's a remake of something that predates Valve's Portal by a couple of decades."
[eeeagh]|17:12 Gunther says, "I... I got nothin'"
[lounge]|17:12 Bishop says, "Man, he spells 'vendor' differently every time he uses it."
[lounge]|17:12 Gunther says, "yendor, vandor..."
[lounge]|17:12 Ellison says, "zarf is a fan of that game. he pointed us to an e-book version of the game documentation at some point."
[lounge]|17:12 Gunther says, "also, in case you don't know:"
[eeeagh]|17:13 Tale says, "I thought that after a few hours there's already a chance of permanent damage"
[lounge]|17:13 Gunther says, "Potato Person won the goddamn lottery. 45 million."
[lounge]|17:13 Johnny insisted that the mobile hot-dog-on-a-bun did nothing wrong.
[lounge]|17:13 Gunther says, "and he's using Kickstarter? Fuck him."
[lounge]|17:13 Johnny says (to Gunther), "Hey, I just got here."
[lounge]|17:13 Gunther says, "(although I guess he ate those 45 million all at once)"
[lounge]|17:14 Gunther says, "CSB"
[lounge]|17:14 Gunther was like watching the world's most boring car crash, and then someone with a monotone voice overanalyzing it.
[eeeagh]|17:14 Jota asks, "...it took 20 months before he did this?"
[lounge]|17:14 borowski asks, "Why does the Potato Person's reward tier repeat the $10,000 tier 8 times?"
[lounge]|17:14 Bishop says, "Lottery winners, as a whole, tend to make very poor use of their windfall."
[workplace]|17:15 Allen says, "systems admin"
[lounge]|17:15 McMartin says, "Yes, but he could spend it hiring people to work on his terrible project"
[lounge]|17:15 Jota says (to Bishop), "This could be a side-effect of many lottery winners being the same kind of people who play the lottery in the first place."
[eeeagh]|17:15 olethros says, "well, during those 20 months he had a bit of fun"
[lounge]|17:15 Bishop asks (of borowski), "Because he's not very good at economics?"
[lounge]|17:15 Sslaxx goes home.
[lounge]|17:16 Bishop exclaims (at McMartin), "Which would stimulate the economy, at least!"
[lounge]|17:16 baf says, "(My thoughts on Portal in 2008: http://www.wurb.com/stack/archives/289 )"
[lounge]|17:16 Jota says, "Also, I am rather annoyed at these 1986 people using the name 'Portal' for their game. It wasn't very considerate of them."
[lounge]|17:16 borowski says (to Bishop), "Or an understanding of the meaning of 'tier.'"
[lounge]|17:16 McMartin says (to Bishop), "The non-ironic version of this would be Notch"
[lounge]|17:17 McMartin says (to Gunther), "Iw as unaware of this"
[lounge]|17:17 Gunther has a complicated history with pants.
[lounge]|17:17 Gunther says, "re"
[lounge]|17:18 Gunther asks (of McMartin), "his lotto-winningness?"
[jobs]|17:19 Matthew says (to MajorTechnologyCompany), "PLEASE HURRY UP AND RESPOND TO MY E-MAIL I DON'T HAVE ALL DAY"
[lounge]|17:19 Gunther says, "it kinda puts the crown on this suckpile"
[lounge]|17:19 Recchi says, "I've got a bad Kickstarter for everyone."
[jobs]|17:19 Gunther says, "I gotta say, MTC is the stupidest name for a tech company"
[lounge]|17:19 Recchi says, "The guys who did Jumpgate have this one going: | http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1065318294/squad-wars "
[jobs]|17:19 Jota says, "Perhaps they've gone home for the day."
[jobs]|17:19 Matthew asks (of Jota), "At 2:00 PM?!?"
[jobs]|17:20 olethros says, "worker's day tomorrow"
[lounge]|17:21 Gunther says, "I have a good one for everyone and you should all back it with $10,000: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/crateentertainment/grim-dawn "
[jobs]|17:21 Gunther says (to olethros), "USA Patriotism Day, more like"
[jobs]|17:21 Jota asks (of Matthew), "Oh, are they on the wrong coast?"
[jobs]|17:22 borowski says, "LOYALTY DAY"
[eeeagh]|17:22 Bishop says, "Incidentally, apropos of nothing in particular, I observed a while back that bicycle saddle makers have implemented a design they call the 'love channel', a euphemism I find actualyl perhaps more distressing than the thing it's a euphemism for."
[jobs]|17:22 Matthew says, "Well, they're on the West Coast."
[lounge]|17:22 Recchi says, "The entire last half of their pitch video is people listing off scenes from sci-fi movies"
[lounge]|17:23 Nitku leaves.
[lounge]|17:24 olethros says, "zzz"
[lounge]|17:24 olethros has ordered three mega-generators to be installed in his boathouse.
[lounge]|17:25 McMartin | I also like the implication that a plot of land to build an in-game house will cost more than $10,000 hard US currency.
[lounge]|17:25 McMartin | 104 Backers, $21,216, but 2 backers are at the >= $10k level...  which means that really you have 102 backers for $1,216
[lounge]|17:25 Recchi says, "I think some people donated a buck so they could post comments."
[lounge]|17:26 baf says, "donated""
[lounge]|17:26 Recchi says, "You can still post comments after a project fails, where it becomes a chat room forever."
[lounge]|17:27 Gunther says, "I bet those two backers are the dude"
[lounge]|17:27 McMartin says, "If he really did win Lotto, maybe he can anonymously donate 1.1M and make people give him money they posted solely for the lulz"
[videogames]|17:27 Gunther says (to baf), "oh no, the link no longer works"
[lounge]|17:28 Gunther says (to McMartin), "SA was talking about trolling him but in the end everyone was afraid this might happen"
[lounge]|17:29 Hugo goes home.
[lounge]|17:29 * Hugo has disconnected.
[lounge]|17:32 Gunther says, " http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3472464 "
[lounge]|17:34 Fang says, " http://static.endgames.net/squadwars/TeamOvalFinal.jpg "
[lounge]|17:34 Fang facepalms.
[lounge]|17:36 Gunther says, "that is truly terrifying"
[lounge]|17:36 Roger says, "Go Team Ova"
[lounge]|17:38 two-star took 30,500 buckets -- why?
[lounge]|17:48 Lucea is gonna get back baby bad balls to you, love, cretin.
[lounge]|17:48 * Lucea has disconnected.
[wtf]|17:48 Roger | Parents create bucket list for dying daughter
[wtf]|17:49 Roger says, "dying 5-month-old daughter"
[wtf]|17:49 Ellison says, "dang"
[google]|17:50 GDorn says, "now gmail has the Inbox (1) bug.  wtff."
[wtf]|17:52 Jota asks, "It's not enough for her to die, she also has to die a failure?"
[wtf]|17:54 Roger says, "I guess it could be a very short, easily-achievable list"
[wtf]|17:54 Roger says, "1. poop"
[WTMI]|17:54 Gunther says, "omg http://offbeatr.com/ "
[Babylon5]|17:56 DorianX says, "So, I had heard ahead of time that breastfed babies feces looks "mustardy""
[Babylon5]|17:56 DorianX says, "ilad"
[Babylon5]|17:56 DorianX says, "So, I had heard ahead of time that breastfed babies feces looks "mustardy""
[Babylon5]|17:56 DorianX says, "Wow"
[babies]|17:57 DorianX says, "So, I had heard ahead of time that breastfed babies feces looks "mustardy""
[babies]|17:57 DorianX says, "What I did not expect is that it also *smells* mustardy"
[babies]|18:00 Dave says, "all my kids poop smelled like raspberries and unicorns"
[lounge]|18:01 marc goes home.
[lounge]|18:01 * marc has disconnected.
[lounge]|18:05 Emily goes home.
[lounge]|18:05 * Emily has disconnected.
[lounge]|18:08 Ellison says, "later"
[lounge]|18:08 Ellison goes back to Squeamhurst..
[lounge]|18:08 * Ellison has disconnected.
[lounge]|18:09 Tale is fired from breathing.
[lounge]|18:09 * Tale has disconnected.
[politics]|18:09 Roger says, "whaaaa"
[lounge]|18:09 Tale's first civilian job after World War I was at the Oxford English Dictionary, where he worked mainly on the history and etymology of words of Germanic origin beginning with the letter W.
[politics]|18:10 Roger | Bob Rae is expected to step down as interim Liberal leader in late June to make a run for the party's permanent leadership
[politics]|18:10 Roger | In accepting the interim leadership following the Liberals??? third-place showing in the May federal election, Rae agreed to a stipulation laid out by the board that he would not run for the permanent leadership.
[politics]|18:11 Roger says, "on the other hand he might be up against an astronaut"
[news]|18:11 Allen says, "ok, this is news"
[news]|18:11 Allen | A Lake in the Hills woman bit the family dog after returning home drunk over the weekend, police say
[lounge]|18:12 jess snaps out of it and unidles.
[lounge]|18:12 jess says, "hi"
[news]|18:13 Roger says, "Yep, that qualifies"
[lounge]|18:13 Tale says, "hey jess"
[lounge]|18:13 jess says (to Tale), "hey"
[lounge]|18:15 Johnny says, "Hi jess"
[lounge]|18:15 jess says, "yo"
[politics]|18:17 Allen | Mitt Romney Saves Dog, Several People
[politics]|18:17 Allen says, "wow, this 2007 story has been revived"
[politics]|18:17 Allen | Gov. Mitt Romney rode to the rescue over the weekend during a vacation trip -- using his Jet Ski to help pluck a New Jersey family and their dog out of Lake Winnipesaukee after their boat sank.
[politics]|18:18 Allen | Chasing fleeting glimpses of "bobbling heads" in the water, the Romney trio arrived on their two Jet Skis to find three women and three men wearing lifejackets they hadn't even had time to buckle. The governor pulled the two younger women aboard his three-seater Jet Ski and zoomed back to shore, while his sons helped the mother of the family onto their vehicle.
[politics]|18:18 Allen | The rescuing Romneys also managed to snatch the family dog, McKenzie, from a watery grave -- grabbing the Scottish terrier first because it was the only passenger without a lifejacket.
[politics]|18:18 Gunther says, "then he put it on his car"
[politics]|18:20 jess says, "heh"
[politics]|18:22 Roger says, "Google-enabled journalists save 5-year-old story from watery grave"
[SotC]|18:23 Jon says, "woo, my character is getting a rad cameo in the Mars book."
[politics]|18:27 Allen says, "but he never publicized it or talked about it"
[politics]|18:27 Allen says, "of course, if it had been Obama, he probably would have swum out to rescue them, instead of using pansy water skis"
[politics]|18:27 Allen says, "though, he'd probably end up asking for a doggy bag for the dog"
[politics]|18:31 DorianX says, "Of cours,e it turns out that the women are now unemployed because Bain Capital bought and gutted their employer"
[politics]|18:32 Allen | Prince of Liechtenstein threatens to quit
[politics]|18:32 Allen says, "if they take away his veto power"
[politics]|18:33 Allen | But the current ruler, Hereditary Prince Alois von und zu Liechtenstein, has threatened that his 900-year-old family will drop its royal duties if Liechtenstein passes a referendum eliminating the prince's veto, a power enshrined in the constitution.
[politics]|18:33 Gunther says, "or he could veto the referendum"
[politics]|18:33 Gunther says, "inbred dumbass"
[TV]|18:34 DorianX says, "snrk"
[TV]|18:35 DorianX says, "On amazon. the Voltron DVD sets are listed as "starring Voltron""
[politics]|18:38 Roger says, "Oh no it's referendum vs constitution, something which apparently is the critical weakness of democracy or something"
[hardware]|18:38 K-Y says, "ha ha ha"
[politics]|18:39 Gunther asks, "also, "royal duties" = "wasting the money of the population"?"
[hardware]|18:39 K-Y says, "was going to get this card for $20 and then Mac drivers for $30"
[hardware]|18:40 K-Y says, "yes, I know"
[politics]|18:40 Roger says, "Hard to say.  Canadian parliament would probably be paralyzed if our royal representative decided to entirely stop doing his job"
[hardware]|18:40 K-Y says, "then, got this Chinese-made clone instead which proclaims to work with Macs"
[hardware]|18:41 K-Y says, "open it up, turns out they just swiped and rebranded said $30 Mac drivers"
[TV]|18:42 DorianX says, "Weir.d There doesn't seem to be a Voltron Force voltron action figure available yet"
[politics]|18:43 Gunther says (to Roger), "yeah, but L to the izzo doesn't actually _do_ anything anymore, surely"
[politics]|18:43 Roger says, "Beats me"
[politics]|18:44 Psmith says, "the way it works in the British constitution is that the Queen is allowed to retain a veto on legislation, provided she doesn't actually use it."
[hardware]|18:44 Fang asks, "they charge you fo drivers?"
[lounge]|18:47 Lionheart can see a dream in your dance. Lionheart can see tomorrow in your dance. We can call it, "our hope"!
[hardware]|18:47 K-Y says, "this is Macs"
[hardware]|18:48 K-Y says, "there are no drivers, so enterprising third parties have figured out that they can charge if they deliver the goods"
[hardware]|18:49 K-Y says, "also, because this is Macs, once one person has written a program for a specific task, *no one else* will attempt a different implementation ever again"
[workplace]|18:52 Allen says, "that was satisfying"
[workplace]|18:52 Allen says, "finished the load tests"
[workplace]|18:52 Allen says, "we scaled up to 60,000 virtual users in a 10 minute window, and it had almost no system load"
[workplace]|18:52 Allen says, "(with Akamai in front)"
[workplace]|18:53 Allen says, "now, when we took Akamai out and tried to do 30,000, the system handled it... kinda... load avg above 140"
[workplace]|18:53 Allen says, "load avg with 60k and Akamai: less than 1, 90% cpu idle, zero iowait, apache processes never growing up about 40 per server (2 servers)"
[politics]|18:54 jess says, "0['"
[teaching]|18:54 Bishop says, "At the end of the day: eaverage on the distcrete exam was around a 90/125. Could've been worse."
[politics]|18:54 jess says, "oops"
[lounge]|18:54 Ellison has appeared in three Bigfoot/Abominable Snowman-themed movies: Bigfoot: The Unforgettable Encounter, Little Bigfoot and Abominable.
[politics]|18:54 Allen says, "ANSII codes don't work here!"
[politics]|18:54 jess says, "that was the xbox controller sliding across my laptop keyboard as i tried to pull up the recliner"
[politics]|18:54 jess says, "#lazy"
[politics]|18:57 boucher says, "Make up for it by designing a recliner that can be controlled via an Xbox controller."
[politics]|18:57 jess says, "ooh"
[politics]|18:58 vimes says, "bonus: set up a recliner that *acts* as an xbox controller"
[politics]|18:59 jess says, "heh"
[lounge]|18:59 Ellison lights out for the west.
[politics]|18:59 McMartin says, "The Unkinect"
[politics]|19:00 vimes asks, "Diskinect, perhaps?"
[politics]|19:00 boucher says, "Rekline, the first game you control with your ass."
[politics]|19:01 jess says, "ha ha"
[lounge]|19:02 Tale is fired from breathing.
[lounge]|19:02 * Tale has disconnected.
[politics]|19:02 Gunther says, "oh please, kids"
[lounge]|19:03 Recchi goes home.
[lounge]|19:03 * Recchi has disconnected.
[politics]|19:03 Gunther says, "Raving Rabbids 2"
[politics]|19:03 Gunther says, "sledding with the Wii Fit."
[politics]|19:03 jess says, "point"
[politics]|19:03 jess says, "but can you get a Wii Fit to work on your easy chair?  genuine question"
[politics]|19:03 Gunther says, "clearly you need an easy chair controllable via voice input"
[politics]|19:04 jess says, "heh"
[TV]|19:04 jess says, "watching Archer from the start again"
[TV]|19:05 jess says, "when my brain is shot from work i don't feel like watching something new"
[TV]|19:05 Gunther says, "fuck Enterprise"
[politics]|19:05 Bishop says (to Gunther), "An even easier chair, as it were."
[politics]|19:06 Gunther says, "I want a version of Kinect that only reacts if you scream your commands in a Dalek voice"
[politics]|19:06 Gunther says, "repeatedly, of course"
[politics]|19:06 jess says, "ha ha"
[politics]|19:06 Gunther says, "RE CLINE  REEE CLIIIIIINE"
[TV]|19:06 borowski says, "For some reason I completely forgot to watch season 3 of Archer."
[TV]|19:06 jess says, "oh man"
[TV]|19:07 borowski asks, "Good?"
[TV]|19:07 jess says, "i didn't even know about it until last christmas, a friend told me i NEEDED to watch it.  he was right"
[TV]|19:07 jess says, "i liked it"
[TV]|19:07 jess says, "Pam had some really great stories, too.  she's kind of my hero, though"
[TV]|19:08 borowski says, "Yeah, it has some great characters."
[TV]|19:09 jess says, "technically it was kind of a short season"
[TV]|19:09 borowski says, "And I have a weak spot for H. Jon Benjamin."
[TV]|19:10 jess says, "well, it seemed short, only because there was a 3-parter way before the "season" started.  but those were included in the iTunes season pass, at least."
[TV]|19:10 jess says, "yeah, he's funny"
[springcomp]|19:12 maga says, "RIGHT"
[springcomp]|19:12 maga says, "time to finish the last game"
[springcomp]|19:14 maga says, "I will require a beer, some heavy metal, a sarong, a text editor, and a rubber hand-grip thingy to squeeze out the fury"
[TV]|19:14 jess says, "the end of the season is weird.  but funny.  curious how they'll start season 4 after that"
[springcomp]|19:16 Jearl asks, "will the fury be used later, maybe in a smoothie?"
[springcomp]|19:16 maga says, "a review"
[springcomp]|19:16 Jearl says, "excellent"
[springcomp]|19:17 maga says, "which is like a smoothie, but less fattening and tastes marginally better coming back up"
[springcomp]|19:17 Jearl says, "and you can use it with a classy nib pen"
[food]|19:21 jess says, "made some Chebe breadsticks in the oven when i got home, put a little butter & garlic salt on each before they went in.  they're good without, but twice as good with"
[lounge]|19:21 Roger goes home.
[lounge]|19:21 * Roger has disconnected.
[lounge]|19:27 Ellison arrives from the west with fresh air in his lungs and a lump in his throat.
[jobs]|19:29 GDorn says, "that went...  poorly."
[jobs]|19:30 jess says, "uh oh"
[videogames]|19:31 Gunther says, "I love new people discovering Asura's Wrath"
[videogames]|19:31 Gunther says, "it's the best thing"
[jobs]|19:31 GDorn says, "not only did the django-style pluggable architecture basically get shot down by the other main competent dev, he's also suggesting that, in the name of reusability, we not using django's ORM, django's template engine, and overriding django's dispatcher to cope with different customers having different components installed within the same shared deployment."
[jobs]|19:32 GDorn says, "at that point, I'm not sure what parts of django we'll actually be using, so I dunno why we're bothering."
[jobs]|19:32 jess says, "wow"
[lounge]|19:32 Firion feeds the insatiable hatred of the envious and the jealous.
[lounge]|19:33 schep says, "Firion. Unless the designer is cruel, in which case he's part of the precipitate"
[lounge]|19:33 Firion asks, "Come again?"
[lounge]|19:34 schep says, "um, I mean, hello"
[lounge]|19:36 Firion says, "Hi there."
[politics]|19:40 Allen | The Obama administration's top environmental official in the oil-rich South and Southwest region has resigned after Republicans targeted him over remarks made two years ago when he used the word "crucify" to describe his approach to enforcement.
[politics]|19:41 Johnny says, "Now, if he'd said 'lynch' ..."
[politics]|19:41 Johnny says, "(Withdrawn.)"
[lounge]|19:46 Lucea had the olive complexion.
[lounge]|19:46 Johnny says, "Hi Lucea"
[lounge]|19:46 Lucea says, "re"
[lounge]|19:47 josh_g is protected by public incredulity.
[lounge]|19:47 josh_g says, "hi"
[lounge]|19:47 Cathy goes home.
[lounge]|19:48 Johnny says, "rejosh_g"
[dinner]|19:49 Lucea says, "experiment Let's Make These Bitter Melons I Bought For Some Reason Non-Obnoxious: semi-successful!"
[dinner]|19:49 Lucea says, "although it's probably because anything tastes good with honey and soy sauce"
[dinner]|19:49 maga says, "this is a principle that may be relied on"
[dinner]|19:50 maga says, "for bonus points, batter-fry, *then* dip in honey and soy sauce"
[springcomp]|19:50 maga grinds teeth
[springcomp]|19:51 borowski asks (of maga), "Which game are you playing?"
[springcomp]|19:51 maga says, "The White Bull"
[springcomp]|19:51 maga says, "it is, uh"
[springcomp]|19:51 maga says, "it is a game with problems"
[springcomp]|19:54 borowski says, "I haven't played much of it yet.  Its description as "difficult and somewhat cruel" in the readme has made me reluctant."
[springcomp]|19:54 maga says, "it is more obnoxious than difficult per se"
[dinner]|19:59 Lucea says, "excellent"
[kitties]|20:05 Jota says, "Massage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hKrDAeNxtLA "
[dinner]|20:06 schep says, "and bacon"
[lounge]|20:06 Lionheart makes no law abridging the freedom of s***ch, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to ***emble, and to pe***ion the government for a redress of grievances.
[kitties]|20:07 borowski exclaims, "Huzzah!"
[lpRPG]|20:10 lpsmith says, "Dangit, why do I only notice when Cathy logs *off* and not when she logs on? ;-)"
[dinner]|20:11 borowski says, "I've never had a bitter melon before."
[lpRPG]|20:12 maga says, "that was my situation also"
[lpRPG]|20:12 maga says, "I have spoken to Jacq and she is good for both Sundays, I think"
[lpRPG]|20:13 maga says, "she gets back on Saturday around midday, though, so that's going to be right out"
[dinner]|20:14 Allen says, "never heard of bitter melon"
[dinner]|20:14 borowski says, "I only know of them from an album title."
[lounge]|20:15 Dave says, "la la la"
[lpRPG]|20:16 lpsmith says, "Oh, hmm."
[lpRPG]|20:17 lpsmith says, "Looks like we'd be good for the 6th; I wonder if it was the Saxtons that couldn't make it then."
[lpRPG]|20:18 lpsmith asks, "Would *you* be OK for Saturday?  Or do you want to spend that afternoon with your lovely wife?"
[lpRPG]|20:19 maga says, "the latter, I think"
[lounge]|20:21 Fang is told of the death of Christ, and becomes so angry that the brain bursts from his head, and he dies. The blood from the wound baptises him as a Christian, and his soul goes to heaven.
[music]|20:23 K-Y says, "damn, British indie pop is morbid"
[music]|20:33 Dave says, "seems to be going in one direction these days"
[music]|20:41 K-Y asks, "these days?"
[music]|20:41 K-Y says, "I'm talking about the 90s"
[politics]|20:42 McMartin says, "Feh"
[politics]|20:43 McMartin says, "In context, I see nothing wrong here"
[politics]|20:43 McMartin says, "The correct phrasing though is:"
[politics]|20:43 McMartin | Fear will keep the outer systems in line: fear of this battle station.
[politics]|20:44 McMartin says, "The idea seems to be that he wants to make an example of some of the companies so that the others will get in line"
[politics]|20:44 K-Y says, "I use the word crucify in many contexts"
[politics]|20:44 K-Y says, "such as this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20i7ol7cd9g "
[politics]|20:45 McMartin says, "I seem to recall some other modes of governance where you actually enforce regulations against everyone and have them be workable, but that would involve having regulation and funding compliance efforts and stuff"
[politics]|20:45 McMartin says, "And we are dealing here with the same entity that thinks that cutting funds to tax auditors is a good way to improve your government's finances"
[urls]|20:50 Johnny | http://punksg.phreakco.com/columns/rybread/fellatio.htm
[urls]|20:50 Johnny asks, "?"
[lounge]|20:53 boucher goes home.
[urls]|20:54 vaporware says, "Gay men prefer fellatio over vaginal sex? You don't say."
[urls]|20:55 maga says, "manginas never caught on"
[politics]|20:59 borowski says, "If I donate to Obama's campaign by midnight, I'll have the chance to meet Obama and George Clooney."
[politics]|20:59 borowski says, "I'd like to meet Obama, but I'd rather not meet Clooney."
[politics]|20:59 maga asks (of borowski), "how much do you have to donate before they'll kiss?"
[politics]|21:00 borowski says, "Quite a dilemma."
[politics]|21:00 borowski says (to maga), "I think they're doing that for free."
[politics]|21:02 K-Y says, "hmm http://i.newsarama.com/images/AC9_1.jpg "
[politics]|21:06 borowski says, "That's clearly unconstitutional."
[politics]|21:13 K-Y says, "to the contrary"
[politics]|21:13 K-Y says, "they've already done that story"
[politics]|21:19 borowski asks, "What do you mean?"
[politics]|21:20 K-Y says, "the story where Superman runs for president and passes the Supreme Court challenge"
[politics]|21:21 borowski says, "Oh, I didn't know about that."
[politics]|21:21 borowski asks, "The Supreme Court rules in his favor?"
[politics]|21:22 K-Y says, " http://cbgxtra.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Action-Annual-3.jpg "
[lounge]|21:23 josh_g will call him Pootel; Henry Pootel for short.
[mudmeets]|21:23 Matthew says, "Oh hey."
[mudmeets]|21:23 Matthew exclaims, "Twenty-four hours from now I will be eating dinner with vimes!"
[politics]|21:23 borowski says, "It would be pretty cool to have Superman as president, but it seems like he wouldn't have time to do both jobs."
[toys]|21:27 DorianX says, "The Maters of the Universe Classics Man-At-Arms figure comes with two heads, so that you can display him as either mustachio'd or unmustachioed"
[toys]|21:27 Matthew says, "Huh."
[toys]|21:29 DorianX says, "Because the original figure had no mustache"
[toys]|21:29 DorianX says, "but in the original filmation cartoon, he did"
[politics]|21:32 maga says, "nah, he'd just invent some arbitrary power with a 'super' prefix as required"
[politics]|21:32 Matthew says, "SUPER-VETO."
[mudmeets]|21:33 Firion says, "Lucky you."
[politics]|21:33 borowski says, "And of course he'd have a SUPER HYPOALLERGENIC DOG."
[lounge]|21:34 inky is mostly just chilling, trying to avoid pollution and forest fires.
[lounge]|21:37 maga says, "baron von inkenstein"
[lounge]|21:39 inky says, "tis I, back from my alpine retreat"
[lounge]|21:39 inky says, "the chalet du inque"
[lounge]|21:41 Johnny says, "Hi inky"
[lounge]|21:48 Jota turns into a slimy toad!
[lounge]|21:57 Gerynar enters the lounge but is facing the wrong way. After a couple minutes of staring at the wall, he turns around.
[lounge]|21:57 Johnny says, "Hi Gerynar"
[penny-arcade]|22:01 K-Y says, "okay, the image is good http://penny-arcade.com/report/editorial-article/runic-games-ceo-wants-you-to-fight-torchlight-2s-monsters-not-its-menus "
[lounge]|22:03 Gerynar says, "Howdy all"
[penny-arcade]|22:03 inky says, "heh"
[GerynarsAbode]|22:05 Gerynar says, "Got a new phone today"
[GerynarsAbode]|22:05 Johnny asks, "What kind of phone?"
[GerynarsAbode]|22:05 Johnny says, "(An Android phone.)"
[GerynarsAbode]|22:05 Johnny asks, "Which one?"
[GerynarsAbode]|22:05 Gerynar says, "galaxy nexus"
[GerynarsAbode]|22:05 Gerynar says, "of course an android phone"
[GerynarsAbode]|22:07 Johnny says, "I said that."
[GerynarsAbode]|22:07 Johnny asks, "How are you finding it?"
[GerynarsAbode]|22:08 Johnny | http://beefymiracle.org/
[lounge]|22:09 zarf walks in through the wall. Behind him, light shines briefly through, deep blue this time of day.
[drugs]|22:10 Ellison | The suspect admitted taking the painkilling drugs from a house that he was "hanging out at" in the W147 N6400 block of Ash Drive. The drugs the suspect stole turned out to be a prescription medication for a dog at the residence.
[news]|22:13 Ellison says, "odd story: http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/two-fatal-traffic-accidents-occur-overnight-in-west-allis-sn577fm-149417855.html "
[GerynarsAbode]|22:16 Gerynar says, "I like my openSUSE better"
[drugs]|22:16 inky says, "ha ha"
[GerynarsAbode]|22:17 Gerynar says, "unless that website has something to do with your hot-dog addiction"
[news]|22:17 inky says, "man"
[writing]|22:17 Allen asks, "anyone wanna help me decipher some handwriting?"
[GerynarsAbode]|22:17 Johnny asks, "When did I get addicted to hotdogs?"
[writing]|22:17 Gerynar asks, "is it English?"
[writing]|22:17 Johnny asks, "Is it a prescription?"
[GerynarsAbode]|22:17 Gerynar says, "well, with your olounge having to do with hot-dogs, I just assumed"
[writing]|22:18 Allen says, "hold a sec"
[writing]|22:18 Johnny says, "That's from the Wikipedia article on the Wienermobile."
[writing]|22:18 Johnny says, "ilac"
[GerynarsAbode]|22:18 Johnny says, "That's from the Wikipedia article on the Wienermobile."
[writing]|22:18 Allen says, "here is what I have:"
[writing]|22:18 Allen | While Phoebus used to dwell / amongst the woods so wild / where oft he did lament and wail / how Daphne him beguiled /
[writing]|22:19 Allen says, "here is the source: http://plover.net/~agarvin/phoebus.html "
[writing]|22:19 Allen says, "oops"
[writing]|22:20 Allen says, "I duplicated the middle line"
[writing]|22:20 Allen says, "let me recopy and crop"
[writing]|22:21 inky says, "his only pleasure was"
[writing]|22:21 Allen says, "there, reload"
[writing]|22:22 Allen says, "to fill the night and days with harp in hand"
[writing]|22:22 Allen says, "and wear a crown of [WHAT??]"
[writing]|22:22 Allen asks, "bays?"
[writing]|22:22 Allen says, "never mind, now that I speak it that makes sense. It must be bays"
[writing]|22:22 inky says, "yeah, apparently a crown of bays is a thing"
[writing]|22:24 inky says, "also, this guy sounds pretty easily entertained"
[writing]|22:26 Gerynar grumbles "Stupid sharp s characters"
[writing]|22:32 K-Y says, "mathematicians, on the other hand, run around with harp in hand and wear a Bayesian crown"
[lounge]|22:41 Roger comes from a world where the light is dim and the people not so jive.
[band-name]|22:46 McMartin says, "Tuxedo Science"
[band-name]|22:46 Roger says, "opening for Science Tuxedo"
[insomnia]|22:50 ghira says, "dammit"
[writing]|22:59 Gerynar asks, "crown of baits?"
[writing]|23:05 Gerynar says, "looks like it might be baies (french for bays)"
[writing]|23:07 McMartin says, "I need to not skim when flipping through windows; I read that as 'crown of babies'"
[writing]|23:08 Gerynar says, "on phoebis-3, the 4th letter looks like the 'e' in 'wears' just down the line"
[lounge]|23:09 Firion goes home.
[videogames]|23:10 K-Y says, "ha ha ha"
[videogames]|23:10 K-Y | If you purchased the game from Apple's Mac App Store we suggest you back up the game to an external hard-drive or similar device before you reformat your computer or otherwise delete the game.  Neverwinter Nights 2 will not be available for re-download from the Mac App Store per Apple's terms and conditions.
[videogames]|23:11 K-Y says, "I'm not sure if it's sadder that this even happens or that it manages to turn NWN2 into a big deal"
[obits]|23:12 trikiw says, "that's too bad.. 18 yrs is pretty old for a cat"
[lounge]|23:15 Roger goes home.
[lounge]|23:15 * Roger has disconnected.
[writing]|23:16 Gerynar says, "A crown of Baies is a reference to the crown of bays that was traditionally awarded to the winning poets and dramatists of the ancient Pythian games."
[writing]|23:17 Gerynar says, "so I'm pretty sure it's crown of Baies"
[urls]|23:18 K-Y says, "man http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-3Ot5fpSXhXI/TxA_p72uERI/AAAAAAAAARY/v99MQewHYwg/s1600/couv_ben.jpg "
[urls]|23:18 inky says, "fancy"
[urls]|23:19 K-Y says, "more here http://noart1999.blogspot.com/ "
[band-name]|23:19 McMartin says, "MUSCLE DRUIDS"
[urls]|23:30 K-Y says, "this says it's about petroleum but I would say it has to be about Canadian Arthur Dent http://noart1999.blogspot.com/2010/04/welcome-to-alberta.html "
[lounge]|23:30 Limax flies into the lounge in a spaceship, which explodes.
[urls]|23:31 inky says, "ha"
[lounge]|23:34 genericgeekgirl says, "Hey Limax"
[lounge]|23:34 Limax says, "Hey"
[lounge]|23:34 Gerynar places a Red Hat on Limax's head
[lounge]|23:36 genericgeekgirl adds a polka dot bowtie.
[lounge]|23:36 Limax falls asleep in Gerynar's arms
[lounge]|23:37 Gerynar says, "Bow-ties are cool"
[lounge]|23:37 Gerynar drops Limax
[lounge]|23:37 Hugo arrives holding a fistful of cork nuts. Suddenly, a flock of wild parrots descends upon him! Moments later, he finds himself bereft of both cork nuts and pants.
[lounge]|23:37 Limax says, "So are fezzes"
[lounge]|23:37 genericgeekgirl says, "Hi Hugo"
[lounge]|23:37 Limax says, "Hello Hugo"
[lounge]|23:37 Johnny says, "Hi Limax and Hugo"
[MacOS]|23:38 inky asks, "what are non-zarf folks using for mud clients these days?"
[lounge]|23:38 BrenBarn busta.
[MacOS]|23:38 McMartin says, "I use tf"
[MacOS]|23:38 K-Y says, "Atlantis, still"
[lounge]|23:38 Johnny says, "A Fistful of Cork Nuts, For a Few Cork Nuts More, and The Good, the Bad, and the Almond."
[lounge]|23:38 Alex awwwks. "Want cork nut!"
[MacOS]|23:38 inky says, "hmm"
[MacOS]|23:39 inky says, "(I told Stacey to stop by the mud sometime and she said she thought she needed a new mud client)"
[MacOS]|23:39 K-Y says, "I know I've griped but at least it automatically fixes the non-UTF characters"
[MacOS]|23:39 inky says, "I wonder if she would be ok with atlantis or tf or something"
[MacOS]|23:40 inky says, "or if it would need to be graphical"
[lounge]|23:40 genericgeekgirl says, "Hi BB"
[lounge]|23:41 Johnny says, "Yo Bren"
[lounge]|23:41 BrenBarn says, "hi"
[MacOS]|23:41 K-Y says, "I see some lists, but don't necessarily trust them"
[MacOS]|23:42 K-Y says, "I think this is another one of those fields where because one app exists nobody else bothers"
[MacOS]|23:42 inky asks, "but what is the one app? is it atlantis?"
[MacOS]|23:42 K-Y says, "it's the only one I've seen that's still *maintained*"
[news]|23:42 BrenBarn says, "this is pretty funny as a news report"
[news]|23:42 BrenBarn | In the Fairmont Village neighborhood, a man in his early 20s smeared his girlfriend's face with cake. Both thought it was funny, police said.
[MacOS]|23:42 K-Y says, "other than say tf I guess"
[MacOS]|23:43 inky says, "man"
[MacOS]|23:43 inky says, "ok, well, I'll let her know, thanks"
[news]|23:43 Ellison says, "ha ha"
[news]|23:44 BrenBarn says, "the reason it's reported is given in the following sentence"
[news]|23:44 BrenBarn | "The girlfriend's brother, a male in his mid-20s, did not think it was funny," according to the police report. "He took out a knife and stabbed the boyfriend and two other males attending the party."
[news]|23:44 inky says, "wow dang"
[MacOS]|23:45 K-Y says, "it sounds like, say, Rapscallion was pretty good in its final version"
[news]|23:45 McMartin says, "What were they thinking, standing around near a cake-wielding maniac like that"
[MacOS]|23:45 K-Y says, "but I don't know if it's going to turn out like 'oh crap the final version was for *PowerPC*'"
[MacOS]|23:45 inky says, "I guess the number of people using muds these days are pretty small"
[MacOS]|23:46 Johnny says, "There are a bunch of Windows clients and a handful of Linux clients."
[MacOS]|23:46 K-Y says, "as I keep saying, try to find a current, competent, stand-alone PDF viewer for Mac that is not Preview or Acrobat"
[news]|23:47 BrenBarn says, "the same little news blurb reports another stabbing too"
[MacOS]|23:47 Johnny says, "And a number of crazy people use PuTTY or whatever."
[news]|23:47 BrenBarn | At a family party in the Lincoln Park neighborhood, a 44-year-old man and a 23-year-old man had a dispute about music, police said. The older man stabbed the younger man in the shoulder, police said.
[MacOS]|23:47 K-Y says, "I'm covering my bases, but I wonder if I could even take out 'current' and 'competent'"
[news]|23:48 Ellison asks, "geez, didn't he ever hear, never bring a knife to a beatles vs. stones fight?"
[MacOS]|23:49 K-Y says, "the longer I go the more I think that 90% of active OS X development must be solely in the field of 'what OS X already does, but prettier'"
[MacOS]|23:51 inky says, "interesting"
[lounge]|23:52 Johnny says (to marktwo), "Gerynar"
[lounge]|23:52 Marktwo says (to Johnny), "It turns out the complaint of the group with an odd perception of cats than the Gerynar maneuver NOW."
[lounge]|23:52 Johnny says, "ilac"
[programming]|23:58 Hugo says, "Ending a conditional with ))))) is an awesome idea."
[programming]|23:59 Gerynar asks (of Hugo), "Common Lisp?"
[programming]|23:59 Limax says, "Watch out... you'll slip on all those peels"
[programming]|23:59 Hugo says, "Uncommon C++."
[programming]|00:00 Hugo says, "Although doing that is another way of saying, hey world, I've got huge, glowing iron balls."
[programming]|00:01 Hugo says, "Because you're writing something that you're never going to have to debug."
[programming]|00:01 Hugo says, "Or be able to."
[lounge]|00:03 Limax says, "Off"
[lounge]|00:03 Limax walks slowly out of the room and into the sunset.
[programming]|00:03 Hugo says, "If I'd wanted to debug this code, I would've made _a mistake when I wrote it_."
[lounge]|00:03 (From Johnny) milk says, "I'm off."
[shadowrun]|00:10 * NewsBoy hollers, "Extra! Extra! inky has posted message 47, about '4e character generator', to the bulletin board! So the vicar said, 'Spare the cherubim, and whip the cream!'"
[lounge]|00:11 Lionheart can see a dream in your dance. Lionheart can see tomorrow in your dance. We can call it, "our hope"!
[lounge]|00:11 jenrexrode has entered the lounge. [ Your score has gone up by 10 points ]
[lounge]|00:11 Johnny says, "Hey jen"
[lounge]|00:12 jenrexrode says, "hi"
[lounge]|00:15 Jearl says, "what is the channel for things that make you go '...okay?'"
[lounge]|00:16 jenrexrode asks, "wtf or apropos of nothing?"
[lounge]|00:16 Jearl says, "ah, good, thanks"
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:16 Jearl says, " http://www.sabotagetimes.com/tv-film/werner-herzogs-note-to-his-cleaning-lady/ "
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:17 Jearl says, "aw man try not to read the subhead, it spoiled the effect as soon as I saw it"
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:17 Jearl says, "real person fanfic is a strange thing"
[lounge]|00:18 Johnny does like justice, but that's taking it a bit far.
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:19 K-Y says, "the thing is this totally works even if you don't really know his stuff"
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:20 K-Y says, "although on the other hand you have to appreciate a world where cleaning ladies are named Rosalina"
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:20 Jearl says, "I knew a cleaning lady named Rosalina!"
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:21 Jearl says, "when I was a cleaning lady she was my colleague"
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:21 Jearl says, "a highly frustrated woman"
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:22 Jearl says, "she was not menat for the petty squabbles of hotel work"
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:22 inky asks, "hunh, when were you a cleaning lady?"
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:22 Jearl says, "I just want to know how he kills spoons"
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:22 K-Y says, "bites the head off"
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:23 Jearl says, "I had to take a year off from college and worked at a snobby historical attraction on long island"
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:23 inky says, "interesting"
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:23 inky asks, "old new york something something?"
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:23 Jearl says, "I was pretty fucked up at the time to I just did my job without ever speaking"
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:23 Jearl says, "so I was very well liked"
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:23 BrenBarn says, "heh"
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:23 Jearl says, "also at 5' 2" I was the tall one"
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:24 Jearl says, "there was a parade of very highly stressed out and unhappy woman cycling through the housekeeping staff"
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:24 Jearl says, "there were taller woman than me but they were too prickly to be asked to reach for objects"
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:25 inky says, "ha ha"
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:25 inky asks, "were they stressed out because they were overworked?"
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:25 Jearl says, "no, mostly I think they felt like failures"
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:26 Jearl says, "like they should have better jobs"
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:26 jenrexrode says, "they were cranky about having sore necks from looking up at Jearl"
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:26 Jearl says, "yeah I was basically this stoic tower of enigmatic reaching ability"
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:26 Jearl says, "and willingness to chip barf off of things"
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:27 Jearl says, "a surreal time"
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:27 Jearl says, "also I was on some pretty old-school antidepressants which makes it feel like it happened to someone else"
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:27 Jearl says, "herg some of them are probably dead now from being so cranky"
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:28 inky says, "hmm"
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:28 Jearl says, "Rosalina was specifically bitter because her husband was a professor at SUNY Stony Brook. She was a middle class woman from Spain and I think felt cheated in some way by the move to America"
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:29 Jearl says, "Long Island is a shitty place to be an outsider"
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:29 inky says, "interesting"
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:29 jenrexrode says, "good think I made a friend with a Long Island girl last summer"
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:30 Jearl asks, "oh?"
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:30 jenrexrode says, "yeah, a bunch of us from all over the country got sent to Laguna Niguel for 2 weeks to study interest."
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:30 Jearl says, "huh"
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:31 Jearl says (to inky), "#belated the Three Village Inn"
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:32 Jearl says, "a legitimately historic main building surrounded by shitty motel cottages"
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:32 inky says, "ha ha"
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:32 Jearl says, "and feral cats"
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:32 inky says, "I can't find a wikipedia page, but I *can* find its myspace page"
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:32 Jearl says, "oh man"
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:32 Jearl says, "I half thought it would have burned down or something. I haven't thought about it in years"
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:32 Jearl says, "myspace"
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:33 Ellison says, "it is friends with Tom but he looks oddly disgruntled"
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:33 Jearl says, "ha"
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:33 inky says, "hee hee"
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:33 jenrexrode says, "hehe, myspacec burning down"
[weather]|00:34 jenrexrode says, "please rain"
[lounge]|00:34 boucher arrives unclothed and innocent, perfect in the still morning light.
[lounge]|00:34 jenrexrode says, "hi"
[depression]|00:34 boucher says, "Bleah."
[lounge]|00:35 zarf walks off through the wall; pale green light flares briefly around him.
[depression]|00:36 jenrexrode says, "yeah, it's eating all my spare time"
[depression]|00:36 Ellison says, "aw"
[depression]|00:36 boucher says, "So much hard stuff is going on.  Somehow it just seems simpler to stay here indefinitely, remain destitute, and forget about home, family, and anything else."
[lounge]|00:37 Gerynar wanders off to bed
[lounge]|00:37 Gerynar says "bloop" and shrinks down into a little dot, then winks out...just like those old-fashioned B&w televisions.
[lounge]|00:37 * Gerynar has disconnected.
[depression]|00:37 Jearl says, "sorry"
[depression]|00:38 jenrexrode says, "yep, it sure does"
[depression]|00:38 boucher says, "Hoping for even the slightest bit more than I have now opens the door to having to deal with so much more, I can't handle it."
[depression]|00:39 jenrexrode says, "i hear ya."
[depression]|00:39 boucher says, "The thing is, it's an actual option, in my case."
[depression]|00:40 boucher says, "I could simply decide that, as of the age of 36, my life is over, and I will live the rest of it, such as it remains, in a nursing home.  It's all set up for me now."
[depression]|00:41 Ellison asks (of boucher), "did your will to go on basically die with your friend? do you no longer relate to the kinds of things you used to say to him?"
[depression]|00:41 inky says, "it seems like the food would be better if you got out"
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:42 inky | On further thought, if you were to make your chair entirely out of skulls, I'd imagine it would need to be pretty substantial just to be structural. This might work for a brutish barbarian, but if you were a dark, dastardly sorceror a more subtle style of skull-throne might be appropriate.
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:43 jenrexrode asks, "even the seat?"
[depression]|00:43 boucher says (to Ellison), "Even back then, I had very little will to continue on with things.  I just did because it was easy enough and not quite painful enough."
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:43 K-Y says, " http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=44 "
[depression]|00:43 boucher says, "The food is alright, actually."
[depression]|00:43 boucher says, "It could be better, sure, but it could be a lot worse."
[depression]|00:44 boucher asks (of jenrexrode), "The seat?"
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:44 inky asks, "so the answer is 1?"
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:44 K-Y says, "I guess so"
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:45 jenrexrode says, "a throne made of skulls plus a soft pillow"
[apropos-of-nothing]|00:45 K-Y says, "it's a shame they stopped printing that card, so we don't get to see other options"
[depression]|00:47 boucher says, "As usual, it seems I live my life according to what option causes me the least pain, not what option brings me the greatest reward."
[depression]|00:49 boucher says, "An approach which favors low-maintenance inertia.."
[depression]|00:50 jenrexrode says, "I keep sticking my neck out at work, and I think that this hibernating every weekend is some attempt to balance it out."
[depression]|00:52 Ellison says (to jenrexrode), "stressful jobs are hard. I also have a hard time dealing with it."
[depression]|00:58 K-Y says, "I think humans are wired to"
[depression]|00:58 K-Y says, "get tired of the same thing at some point or other"
[depression]|01:00 Ellison says, "I think there's something to be said about forcing yourself to do things that scare you, going against the natural instinct to cocoon yourself. of course, it is easier said than done."
[apropos-of-nothing]|01:01 jenrexrode says, "yeah, I volunteered to teach again, even though it's scary, it shakes things up a bit.  except things are still shook up from the last big shake up"
[apropos-of-nothing]|01:01 jenrexrode says, "oopsie"
[depression]|01:02 Ellison says (to jr), "that's cool"
[depression]|01:04 jenrexrode says, "the cool thing is that i got the benefit of volunteering, without having to follow through, because the class is postponed until they find more funding."
[depression]|01:04 Ellison says, "ha ha"
[depression]|01:05 Ellison says, "I guess you could take on the unknown waters of fundraising"
[depression]|01:06 jenrexrode says, "nah, it's gov't stuff so I'm not in the chain of command"
[depression]|01:09 jenrexrode says, "and my battle of the fleas is left to random useful spurts I have every day.  I need to move to the 2nd bedroom, but i don't seem to have enough time"
[depression]|01:11 Ellison says, "time sucks"
[lounge]|01:11 jenrexrode says, "oh trash night, why are you on Monday?  Okay if you want to argue, I've stalled it to Tuesday at this hour..."
[lounge]|01:12 ghira says, "hmm today is either rubbish day or recycling day"
[lounge]|01:12 ghira says, "they alternate"
[lounge]|01:12 jenrexrode says, "time to make some final decisions in the vegetable drawer"
[lounge]|01:12 jenrexrode says, "we have rubbish every week and recycles every other.  so today I have both."
[lounge]|01:13 jenrexrode says, "but I have an 80 gallon recycle bin that would take me 2 months to fill..."
[lounge]|01:13 ghira says, "when i have to throw stuff out in Italy i get stressed. everything has to get sorted into 5 or 7 or i don't know how many categories"
[lounge]|01:14 jenrexrode says, "by not sorting, we're creating jobs down the line"
[lounge]|01:27 zaphod says (to borowski), "I received your message."
[lounge]|01:28 borowski asks (of zaphod), "Hey ya.  What are you having trouble with?"
[lounge]|01:29 zaphod says (to borowski), "Well, I made some progress."
[lounge]|01:30 jenrexrode says, "hm, another bedtime comes and goes..."
[cycling]|01:31 jenrexrode says, "Tour of Romandie is pretty. It's in Switzerland."
[cycling]|01:32 jenrexrode says, "it was last week.  I need to catch up before Tour of Italy starts 3 weeks of racing this weekend."
[cycling]|01:34 jenrexrode says, "I haven't decided if I'm going to subscribe to watch it on the internet I think it's 30 dollars, and a company I don't have any experience with.  They have to be committed to not telling me who won, right before I start watching a 3 hour long race."
[cycling]|01:35 jenrexrode says, "when I've watched Univeral Sports before, I've had to try to start the race with my eyes almost closed."
[cycling]|01:38 jenrexrode says, "yep - that's still the setup"
[cycling]|01:38 jenrexrode | I agree that they make it difficult to watch a race after the fact without seeing who won before watching. I bookmarked the VOD page last year in an effort to avoid seeing who won before I watched.
[whiz-games]|01:38 Whizzard stretches.
[lounge]|01:38 Oren nikhnas l'atraklin.
[lounge]|01:38 Oren says, "hello"
[lounge]|01:39 jenrexrode says, "hi"
[lounge]|01:39 zaphod says, "Hello!"
[cycling]|01:40 jenrexrode says, "NBC is going to show an hour on regular broadcast on Saturday, I guess that's to spend an hour selling the online package."
[whiz-games]|01:40 Whizzard says, "Nature walked. Friends accompanied."
[lounge]|01:41 jenrexrode wonders how long it will take borowski to join the channel I've been talking to myself on for 20 minutes.
[lounge]|01:41 inky says, "zz"
[lounge]|01:41 inky exists more as a conversation starter about the future of food delivery than an actual startup plan or business.
[depression]|01:41 * borowski has joined the channel.
[lounge]|01:42 jenrexrode says, "not so much zz here, more getting the trash together."
[cycling]|01:42 * borowski has joined the channel.
[lounge]|01:42 jenrexrode exclaims, "there he goes!"
[lounge]|01:42 borowski says, "Wow, I'm getting lazying with my @listc -re"
[lounge]|01:42 borowski says, "Err, lazy"
[cycling]|01:43 jenrexrode says, "some people think this page is about spokes and sprockets, but I think it's about watching pro racing"
[cycling]|01:44 borowski says, "I really need to start cycling again myself."
[cycling]|01:46 jenrexrode says, "I need to take apart my shifter and see why it doesn't shift"
[lounge]|01:46 Ellison says (to jenrexrode), "sorry, I have no interest in cycling, other than a certain fondness for the movie, Breaking Away"
[cycling]|01:46 jenrexrode says, "but it need to be in a spring friendly room, incase something goes flying, I want to find it."
[lounge]|01:46 jenrexrode says, "aw"
[lounge]|01:47 jenrexrode says, "but that's okay, as long as I can type on #cycling to myself, I'll be happy enough"
[cycling]|01:47 borowski says, "I'm not that familiar with repairs."
[cycling]|01:47 jenrexrode says, "me neither, but I'm willing to really break it before replacing it."
[cycling]|01:48 borowski says, "I need to replace an inner tube from a flat and I've been putting that off because it's a pain."
[lounge]|01:49 Ellison says, "the typing gets easier if you go up a gear"
[lounge]|01:54 BrenBarn says, "time to go"
[lounge]|01:54 BrenBarn says, "adios"
[lounge]|01:54 BrenBarn flashes the "catch you later" handsign.
[depression]|02:04 borowski says, "The bb for #depression is depressing."
[lounge]|02:05 olethros was so annoyed he sat down and angrily wobbled his jowls for a full 45 minutes.
[lounge]|02:06 jenrexrode exclaims, "Speaking of Lausanne!"
[lounge]|02:13 olethros says, "who dares speak of lausanne"
[lounge]|02:13 jenrexrode says, "people watching recordings of Tour of Romandie"
[lounge]|02:15 Johnny insisted that the mobile hot-dog-on-a-bun did nothing wrong.
[lounge]|02:15 jenrexrode says, "re Johnny"
[lounge]|02:15 Johnny says, "Hi jen"
[lounge]|02:15 olethros says, "ah, I suppose it might pass through here"
[lounge]|02:16 jenrexrode says, "might-have. it was last week.  It started with a time trial in Lausanne."
[lounge]|02:17 olethros says, "oh that passed by my house"
[lounge]|02:17 jenrexrode says, "The next day they went to Le Chaux-de-Fonds."
[lounge]|02:17 olethros says, "aha! I did part of morge->chaux-de-fonds"
[lounge]|02:17 olethros says, "on friday, in fact"
[lounge]|02:17 jenrexrode says, "cool"
[lounge]|02:18 olethros says, "Like, 1/5th of it. It took me 1h40"
[lounge]|02:19 olethros says, "the way there looks flat on the map, but it is not, I am telling you"
[lounge]|02:19 jenrexrode says, "yeah, some guys got totally dropped on a climb"
[lounge]|02:20 jenrexrode says, "including the world champion"
[lounge]|02:20 olethros says, "I dont understand the difference between climbs and flat"
[lounge]|02:20 olethros says, "as long as you maintain the same effort, it should be the same"
[lounge]|02:21 olethros says, "oh, the most fun stage was bulle-sion"
[cycling]|02:22 jenrexrode says, "I just finished this one into Le Chaux-de-Fonds, it took them 4:50:23"
[cycling]|02:23 olethros says, "had I been able to continue at the same pace, it would have taken me 'only' 8 hours"
[cycling]|02:24 jenrexrode says, "well as long as you had your soigneurs spaced out along the parcourse, you'd be just fine"
[cycling]|02:24 olethros asks, "would they also pull my bike along?"
[cycling]|02:25 jenrexrode says, "nope, they'd just hand you a bidon.  If you want a tow, you have to get that from your directeur sportif"
[cycling]|02:26 olethros asks, "does anybody use that word anymore?"
[lounge]|02:26 marc in the land of the lounge lizards.
[cycling]|02:26 jenrexrode says, "bidon? sure"
[cycling]|02:27 jenrexrode says, "in France"
[lounge]|02:27 olethros says, "speaking of outmoded things that still find application in obscure parts of the world, it's marc"
[lounge]|02:27 jenrexrode says, "hee hee"
[cycling]|02:27 olethros asks, "like, for water-bottle?"
[cycling]|02:27 jenrexrode says, "yeah, I hear them say it in interviews"
[cycling]|02:29 jenrexrode says, "okay, I'm gonna watch Montbeliard-Moutier until it ends or I fall asleep."
[cycling]|02:29 jenrexrode says, "they're only an hour long shows"
[cycling]|02:29 jenrexrode says, "pretty"
[lounge]|02:30 marc says, "if i can call you olethros, then olethros when you call me you can call me betamarc"
[lounge]|02:30 marc says, "DO DO DO DO"
[lounge]|02:30 marc says, "er, i mean: hi"
[lounge]|02:30 borowski says, "hey marc"
[cycling]|02:31 borowski asks (of jen), "Are you watching the race on TV or is it available online?"
[cycling]|02:31 jenrexrode says, "I'm watching recordings from TV that I made daily last week."
[cycling]|02:32 borowski says, "Ah."
[cycling]|02:32 jenrexrode says, "they might be on Universal Sports website in the US"
[lounge]|02:34 jenrexrode says, "it's weird watching cycling online, sometimes, because the owners of the rights are pretty picky about who gets to watch what, and where."
[lounge]|02:34 jenrexrode says, "ilac"
[cycling]|02:35 borowski says, "They're going to have the Giro d'Italia on-line but it'll cost $20."
[cycling]|02:35 jenrexrode says, "I'm pretty sure I've watched an Italian race with Spanish commentary, because that's the only way I could get it for free.  I'm not sure if anyone had the rights to charge for it in the US that year."
[cycling]|02:36 jenrexrode says, "yeah, but those jerks like to have an article about the winner right next to the link for the video, so I have to navigate to the page with my eyes closed to avoid the spoiler."
[cycling]|02:37 jenrexrode says, "those jerks=universal sports."
[cycling]|02:37 borowski says, "Not being able to watch sporting events is the only downside I've found to not having a tv."
[cycling]|02:37 jenrexrode says, "I don't know why they think you want to know that right before you start streaming a 3-5 hour race..."
[cycling]|02:37 borowski says, "But I don't watch enough sports to make it worth the price."
[cycling]|02:38 borowski says, "I'm going to have to figure something out for the Olympics this summer."
[cycling]|02:38 jenrexrode says, "yeah, it's not about the money, it's about paying, and still be spoiled.  If I want spoiled, I can watch clips on HULU or daily motion"
[cycling]|02:39 jenrexrode says, "er it's more like they don't spoil, but you only get a 5 minute summary"
[cycling]|02:40 jenrexrode says, "i'd rather watch 5 minutes unspoiled than 3 hours spoiled"
[lounge]|02:41 Gunther awaketheth
[photo]|02:41 olethros says, "my dad takes some amazing pictures"
[photo]|02:41 olethros says, "he still manages to mess up all the shots he takes, even with a fully automatic PaS"
[lounge]|02:42 Johnny says, "Hi marc"
[videogames]|02:42 Gunther | All windows will close with a click of the space bar
[videogames]|02:42 Gunther says, "worst mechanic ever"
[lounge]|02:42 * ghira has disconnected.
[lounge]|02:42 * ghira has connected.
[lounge]|02:42 ghira says, "meep"
[lounge]|02:42 Johnny says, "And Gunther"
[photo]|02:42 olethros says, "close-up of flowers: a blurry white thing in the middle, surrounded by sharply focused leaves in the distance"
[lounge]|02:42 Johnny says, "And ghira"
[lounge]|02:43 ghira says, "J"
[lounge]|02:44 jenrexrode says, "g"
[lounge]|02:45 jenrexrode says, "G"
[cycling]|02:45 jenrexrode says, "oops, I don't know why by I didn't get Friday's recorded."
[cycling]|02:46 jenrexrode says, "er by=but"
[TV]|02:46 olethros | #vomit | never before have these two pillars of economic thought faced off in live TV
[TV]|02:48 olethros says, " http://www.bloomberg.com/video/91689761/ "
[TV]|02:48 olethros says, "look at krugman's shocked expression"
[cycling]|02:51 jenrexrode says, "argh, now they're trying to spoil the Tour of Turkey during the commentary of this race."
[cycling]|02:52 jenrexrode says, "I guess I could switch back and forth, but Tour of Turkey is online, but I have a quarterly subscription to cycling.tv"
[cycling]|02:53 jenrexrode says, "wow, they have a countdown to the Olympics on the crawl"
[cycling]|02:54 jenrexrode says, "so last Thursday at 5pm, it was 91 days 18 hours..."
[lounge]|03:08 Emily arrives.
[lounge]|03:12 Johnny does like justice, but that's taking it a bit far.
[lounge]|03:12 jenrexrode wanders off.
[whiz-games]|03:23 Whizzard stretches.
[whiz-games]|03:23 Whizzard says, "lo"
[lounge]|03:23 Ellison says, "later"
[lounge]|03:23 Ellison goes back to Squeamhurst..
[lounge]|03:23 * Ellison has disconnected.
[lounge]|03:24 Nitku doesn't even know what glutz is!
[whiz-games]|03:31 ghira says, "whizzle"
[whiz-games]|03:32 Whizzard says, "hi-diddly-ho, neighborino."
[whiz-games]|03:41 Gunther says, "shut up, Ned"
[lounge]|03:47 Lucea is gonna get back baby bad balls to you, love, cretin.
[lounge]|03:47 * Lucea has disconnected.
[whiz-games]|03:51 Whizzard says, "Okily-dokily."
[lounge]|03:51 Emily goes home.
[lounge]|03:51 * Emily has disconnected.
[whiz-games]|03:58 Whizzard asks, "How goes?"
[whiz-games]|03:59 Gunther says, "last day of weekend"
[whiz-games]|04:01 ghira says, "awake since 2:30"
[whiz-games]|04:05 Whizzard says, "Today was mostly a work day for me, and then walkies in the evening."
[whiz-games]|04:05 Whizzard says, "I'm hopeful that I can get Unseen Forces at least 90% prototyped tomorrow."
[lounge]|04:09 borowski reminds you, "Due to the continuing narrative nature of our show, please do not divulge the contents of story lines to anyone. This script is for your eyes only. Thank you for your cooperation."
[lounge]|04:09 borowski is a science, not simply a screensaver!
[whiz-games]|04:13 Gunther asks, "unseen forces?"
[lounge]|04:18 Fang is a veritable smorgasbord of visual variables.
[lounge]|04:18 Fang says, "Hi"
[videogames]|04:26 McMartin says, "None of this bottlecaps stuff for us"
[videogames]|04:27 McMartin says, "We're here for GOLD (GOLD!)"
[videogames]|04:27 McMartin says, "Post-apocalyptic Ron Paul is well-pleased"
[videogames]|04:27 Gunther says, "bittecoines"
[videogames]|04:28 McMartin says, "That said, this is more money than I've ever seen in one place before and it was for a quest item that I've already used to move well along in the main questline"
[videogames]|04:28 McMartin says, "I ain't complaining"
[whiz-games]|04:34 Whizzard says, "Elder Sign exp"
[whiz-games]|04:36 Gunther says, "ah"
[lounge]|04:43 Hugo goes home.
[lounge]|04:43 * Hugo has disconnected.
[quotebooks]|04:44 Fang says, "Oh, that's mean olethros"
[lounge]|04:50 Rob comes right on in.
Recapped 1000 of 3206 lines from recent channels.
Current time: Tuesday,  1 May 2012, 04:50:52 AM EDT
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There is one new message on #if/Gathering.
#47 [games/roleplaying/shadowrun]  From: inky          Date: 01-May-12 00:10
Subject: 4e character generator
http://forums.dumpshock.com/index.php?showtopic=34674
#441 [alt/obits]                   From: DorianX       Date: 30-Apr-12 14:28
Subject: Kali Postrech-Raszewski
Cat. 1994-2012
#4 [if/Gathering]                  From: zarf          Date: 30-Apr-12 16:24
Subject: Wiki page
http://ifwiki.org/index.php/NoShowConf_2012
No quotations available.
Gunther says, "Grob"
Rob says, "Grunther"
    # From         Date            Subject
  423 olethros     25-Jan-12 04:36 Theo Angelopoulos, 76
  424 Psmith       08-Feb-12 06:57 Casilda, 15
  425 Matthew      11-Feb-12 20:09 Whitney Houston
  426 inky         27-Feb-12 17:14 Jan Berenstain, 88
  427 Matthew      29-Feb-12 13:30 Davy Jones, 66
  428 Matthew      01-Mar-12 09:39 Andrew Breitbart, 43
  429 inky         03-Mar-12 23:46 Ralph McQuarrie, 82
  430 Gunther      05-Mar-12 12:50 George W. Bush... impersonator Steve Bri
  431 inky         09-Mar-12 14:00 Peter Bergman, 73
  432 ghira        10-Mar-12 12:06 Moebius, 73
  433 Roger        16-Mar-12 16:51 M. A. R. Barker, 82
  434 Limax        28-Mar-12 21:18 Earl Scruggs, 88
  435 Gunther      06-Apr-12 04:43 Ferdinand Porsche (76)
  436 Allen        07-Apr-12 11:51 Thomas Kinkade, 54
  437 Matthew      08-Apr-12 10:35 Mike Wallace, 93
  438 Bishop       09-Apr-12 16:14 Jack Tramiel, 83
  439 Doug         12-Apr-12 16:43 Ronnie Montrose, 64
  440 Ryan         18-Apr-12 15:57 Dick Clark, 82
  441 DorianX      30-Apr-12 14:28 Kali Postrech-Raszewski
Recapping 9 of 9 lines from alt/obits:
[obits]/001 * NewsBoy hollers, "Extra! Extra! DorianX has posted message 441, about 'Kali Postrech-Raszewski', to the bulletin board!"
[obits]/002 katre says, "aww"
[obits]/003 inky says, "aw man"
[obits]/004 katre says, "sorry to hear this"
[obits]/005 Matthew says, "Man, sorry."
[obits]/006 Allen says, "awww"
[obits]/007 maga says, "I'm sorry"
[obits]/008 Tale says, "Aw man."
[obits]/009 trikiw says, "that's too bad.. 18 yrs is pretty old for a cat"
Recapped 9 of 9 lines from alt/obits.
    # From         Date            Subject
  423 olethros     25-Jan-12 04:36 Theo Angelopoulos, 76
  424 Psmith       08-Feb-12 06:57 Casilda, 15
  425 Matthew      11-Feb-12 20:09 Whitney Houston
  426 inky         27-Feb-12 17:14 Jan Berenstain, 88
  427 Matthew      29-Feb-12 13:30 Davy Jones, 66
  428 Matthew      01-Mar-12 09:39 Andrew Breitbart, 43
  429 inky         03-Mar-12 23:46 Ralph McQuarrie, 82
  430 Gunther      05-Mar-12 12:50 George W. Bush... impersonator Steve Bri
  431 inky         09-Mar-12 14:00 Peter Bergman, 73
  432 ghira        10-Mar-12 12:06 Moebius, 73
  433 Roger        16-Mar-12 16:51 M. A. R. Barker, 82
  434 Limax        28-Mar-12 21:18 Earl Scruggs, 88
  435 Gunther      06-Apr-12 04:43 Ferdinand Porsche (76)
  436 Allen        07-Apr-12 11:51 Thomas Kinkade, 54
  437 Matthew      08-Apr-12 10:35 Mike Wallace, 93
  438 Bishop       09-Apr-12 16:14 Jack Tramiel, 83
  439 Doug         12-Apr-12 16:43 Ronnie Montrose, 64
  440 Ryan         18-Apr-12 15:57 Dick Clark, 82
  441 DorianX      30-Apr-12 14:28 Kali Postrech-Raszewski
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#441 [alt/obits]                   From: DorianX       Date: 30-Apr-12 14:28
Subject: Kali Postrech-Raszewski
Cat. 1994-2012
[obits] Rob says, "what does 'Cat.' stand for"
[obits] Gunther says, "a small, furry animal that meows"
[obits] Rob says, "m"
[obits] Gunther says, "(yes, really)"
[obits] Rob says, "I guess it stands for Cattus"
[obits] Gunther says, "Cattus... Atrox"
[obits] Rob says, "I actually hadn't focused on the date range posted until the idea of a cat occurred"
Recapping 32 of 32 lines from alt/vibes/depression:
[depression]/001 boucher says, "Bleah."
[depression]/002 jenrexrode says, "yeah, it's eating all my spare time"
[depression]/003 Ellison says, "aw"
[depression]/004 boucher says, "So much hard stuff is going on.  Somehow it just seems simpler to stay here indefinitely, remain destitute, and forget about home, family, and anything else."
[depression]/005 Jearl says, "sorry"
[depression]/006 jenrexrode says, "yep, it sure does"
[depression]/007 boucher says, "Hoping for even the slightest bit more than I have now opens the door to having to deal with so much more, I can't handle it."
[depression]/008 jenrexrode says, "i hear ya."
[depression]/009 boucher says, "The thing is, it's an actual option, in my case."
[depression]/010 boucher says, "I could simply decide that, as of the age of 36, my life is over, and I will live the rest of it, such as it remains, in a nursing home.  It's all set up for me now."
[depression]/011 Ellison asks (of boucher), "did your will to go on basically die with your friend? do you no longer relate to the kinds of things you used to say to him?"
[depression]/012 inky says, "it seems like the food would be better if you got out"
[depression]/013 boucher says (to Ellison), "Even back then, I had very little will to continue on with things.  I just did because it was easy enough and not quite painful enough."
[depression]/014 boucher says, "The food is alright, actually."
[depression]/015 boucher says, "It could be better, sure, but it could be a lot worse."
[depression]/016 boucher asks (of jenrexrode), "The seat?"
[depression]/017 boucher says, "As usual, it seems I live my life according to what option causes me the least pain, not what option brings me the greatest reward."
[depression]/018 boucher says, "An approach which favors low-maintenance inertia.."
[depression]/019 jenrexrode says, "I keep sticking my neck out at work, and I think that this hibernating every weekend is some attempt to balance it out."
[depression]/020 Ellison says (to jenrexrode), "stressful jobs are hard. I also have a hard time dealing with it."
[depression]/021 K-Y says, "I think humans are wired to"
[depression]/022 K-Y says, "get tired of the same thing at some point or other"
[depression]/023 Ellison says, "I think there's something to be said about forcing yourself to do things that scare you, going against the natural instinct to cocoon yourself. of course, it is easier said than done."
[depression]/024 Ellison says (to jr), "that's cool"
[depression]/025 jenrexrode says, "the cool thing is that i got the benefit of volunteering, without having to follow through, because the class is postponed until they find more funding."
[depression]/026 Ellison says, "ha ha"
[depression]/027 Ellison says, "I guess you could take on the unknown waters of fundraising"
[depression]/028 jenrexrode says, "nah, it's gov't stuff so I'm not in the chain of command"
[depression]/029 jenrexrode says, "and my battle of the fleas is left to random useful spurts I have every day.  I need to move to the 2nd bedroom, but i don't seem to have enough time"
[depression]/030 Ellison says, "time sucks"
[depression]/031 * borowski has joined the channel.
[depression]/032 borowski says, "The bb for #depression is depressing."
Recapped 32 of 32 lines from alt/vibes/depression.
Field set.
  # From         Date            Subject
  1 inky         18-Jul-03 17:32 gene linked to susceptability to depressio
  2 josh_g       23-Dec-03 00:27 Happy Holidays
  3 jess         05-May-04 00:35 YOR HEAD A SPLODE
  4 Allen        19-Jan-05 12:56 January 24th, the most depressing day of t
  5 inky         27-Nov-06 13:10 happiness levels may more be malleable tha
  6 GDorn        26-Feb-08 12:33 Prozac and other SSRIs found to make "virt
  7 GDorn        05-Jan-10 20:58 Antidepressants not much better than inact
[depression] * Rob has changed the topic to: borowski says, "The bb for #depression is depressing."
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[robmumble] * Rob has changed the topic to: "As usual, it seems I live my life according to what option causes me the least pain, not what option brings me the greatest reward."    --Tyson Boucher
Rob heads right on out.
</Rob> Find release from your cares. have a good time.
Seeya later.