Logfile from ifmud. ************************************************************************ ** ** ** Welcome to ifMUD! ** ** ** ************************************************************************ FAQ: http://www.allthingsjacq.com/ifMUDfaq/ IP: 66.114.68.227 MONKEY: Ook. If you... have an account Type "connect name password" to log in need an account Go to http://ifmud.port4000.com:4001/ and apply are just visiting Type "connect guest guest" to login as Guest want to see who's on Type "who" for a list of players online have problems Email markm - mark.musante@gmail.com TYPE connect, who, or quit: Login Succeeded ifMUD An interactive real time social network chat bulletin board quotebook url database with a parrot bot Copyright 1997-2007 by Loungent Technologies, a wholly owned subsidiary of rec.[arts|games].int-fiction; All rights reserved. Release 4 / Serial number 990908 / perlMUD v2.1z "The characters were mostly of the cardboard cutout variety. I wanted to punch everyone except the one Scottish guy." --Jearl NOTE: Whenever a fix or enhancement is in place, it will be announced on the channel '#mud-updates'. OTHER NOTE: There is a mailing list where people can say things like "hey, the mud's down, what's up with that?" In fact, since this is the only thing the list is used for, you should join it if you are interested in this subject. To join, go to http://groups.google.com/group/ifmud/ or talk to Steve. Robinson Manor A gracious, welcoming, airy space. Music drifts in from unseen speakers. A picture window on the southern wall provides a pleasant source of light and a sense of openness. You can see: teleporter, a picture window, comfy sofa, Jeopardy podium, buzzer1, buzzer2, buzzer3, Jota greets Rob Visible Exits: west, east "An artist doesn't burn out with age because he works too much. Working hones his craft." No new channels have been created since your last check. Adventurer's Lounge Candles on the wood-panelled walls create a comfortably dark atmosphere. Hand-drawn maps are taped to nearly every surface -- the walls, the ceiling, the trophy case in the corner. Seating is plentiful. A small storage closet is to the north. You can see: new laundry list, Birthday Calendar, magic laundry list, blank banner, Even Newer World Map, charset sampler, Automeeter, TheMasterTheorem player names, time zones, MUD Client Wish List Players: Alex, markm, Bishop, GDorn, Touchy, DorianX, Jearl, Psmith, annabianca, Whizzard, Ryan, Dave, Grocible, baf, vimes, jpt, Jon, Marktwo, schep, Johnny, lpsmith, Doug, McMartin, borowski, vaporware, Richie, genericgeekgirl, maga, Gunther, zarf, josh_g, Roger, inky, ghira, Allen, Emily, boucher, Fang, Jizaboz, Hugo Visible Exits: north, west, southwest, southeast, up, east Rob comes right on in. Recapping 918 of 3543 lines from recent channels: [lounge]/08:47 * Marktwo has disconnected. [lounge]|08:47 * Marktwo has connected. [lounge]|09:01 Tale is fired from breathing. [lounge]|09:01 * Tale has disconnected. [videogames]|09:02 Johnny says, "Why can't they just give people what they want? (Games numbered in decimal. Fucking Final Fantasy!)" [climate]|09:04 Fang says, "#wtf http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2012/may/04/heartland-institute-global-warming-murder " [climate]|09:05 Fang | Billboards in Chicago paid for by The Heartland Institute point out that some of the world's most notorious criminals say they "still believe in global warming" . and ask viewers if they do, too [climate]|09:05 Fang | The people who still believe in man-made global warming are mostly on the radical fringe of society. This is why the most prominent advocates of global warming aren't scientists. They are murderers, tyrants, and madmen. [climate]|09:06 Fang froths at mouth. [climate]|09:07 maga says, "Hitler, of course, annexed the Sudetenland because a bigger Germany would have more carpooling opportunities" [English]|09:07 Doug | Mozilla expelled a new chronicle of a Firefox web browser that can now refurbish itself but tellurian assistance on Windows [climate]|09:07 Fang says, "haha" [climate]|09:08 Gunther asks, "frothing at the mouth? Why, Fang, do you feel like... killing everyone at the Heartland Institute??" [climate]|09:09 * NewsBoy hollers, "Extra! Extra! Fang has posted message 33, about 'You know who else believes in Climate change?', to the bulletin board! I set a goal to save for a car. So far, I have about 3 dollars. The goal setting has been helpful. I have learned a lot." [lounge]|09:11 Gunther was like watching the world's most boring car crash, and then someone with a monotone voice overanalyzing it. [cars]|09:21 Ryan says, "Okay, now we have claims open with both Geico (our insurance) and State Farm (other lady's insurance)." [cars]|09:21 Ryan says, "It's a bit worrisome that the State Farm rep didn't appear to have any knowledge whatsoever of this incident, as if the lady didn't actually call and report it like she said she was going to." [cars]|09:22 Ryan says, "But maybe that's just how they process things." [cars]|09:23 katre asks, "why are you talking to State Farm?" [cars]|09:23 katre says, "that's Geico's job" [mozilla]|09:28 katre says, "what the hell" [mozilla]|09:28 katre says, "I have a copy of FF6 that I use for testing" [cars]|09:28 Ryan says, "Geico said I could talk to State Farm directly and possibly get them to just agree to pay for things directly, rather than pay for it myself and wait to get reimbursed." [mozilla]|09:28 katre says, "whatever it's doing, whenever I start it now it gives me FF12" [cars]|09:28 katre says, "ah" [cars]|09:28 Ryan says, "But if State Farm won't do that, then we'll go the normal route." [cars]|09:28 katre says, "good luck with that" [lounge]|09:35 Tale's first civilian job after World War I was at the Oxford English Dictionary, where he worked mainly on the history and etymology of words of Germanic origin beginning with the letter W. [board-games]|09:40 markm asks, "Where's vimes when you need him?" [lounge]|09:41 Gunther just looks like a moron throwing around jars of spiders... bitch please. [lounge]|09:41 Gunther says, "ah, the weekend" [nameless]|09:41 * Gunther has left the channel. [workplace]|09:43 marc says, "gave the second interview -- poor guy was here for 2h30" [lounge]|09:43 Tale says (to Gunther), "Indeed, old chap. Indeed." [travel]|09:48 Hjalfi says, "Glad I didn't read this before flying:" [travel]|09:48 Hjalfi | ...an investigation into [travel]|09:48 Hjalfi | a Jetstar flight JQ57 between Darwin to Singapore discovered that the [travel]|09:48 Hjalfi | airline captain failed to lower the landing gear during the first attempt at [travel]|09:48 Hjalfi | a landing as he was too busy with his mobile phone.# [travel]|09:49 Hjalfi exclaims, "That was two years ago, but I did that flight on Wednesday!" [UK]|09:52 ghira says (to hjalfi), "you weren't around when it was planned but it seems there's going to be a UK mudmeet in brighton on the 16th of June" [UK]|09:52 Hjalfi says, "Yep, that sounds doable." [travel]|09:53 Nitku exclaims, "You almost died!" [UK]|09:54 ghira says, "bb #uk 98 for proposed contents" [UK]|09:55 Hjalfi asks, "What is the Train of Death?" [UK]|09:56 Gunther says, " http://www.volkselectricrailway.co.uk " [lounge]|09:58 maga enters the lounge. Thumps and penitent shrieks follow. [UK]|09:58 Hjalfi says, "Aha." [lounge]|10:03 ghira goes home. [lounge]|10:03 * ghira has disconnected. [lounge]|10:06 Johnny says, "Yo maga" [poop]|10:10 * Ryan has joined the channel. [poop]|10:10 Ryan | http://jezebel.com/5907587/zookeeper-saves-tiny-monkey-by-licking-its-butt-until-it-poops-seriously [poop]|10:11 Fang says, "I guess it was only pooping for fun previously" [poop]|10:11 Ryan | Last message: 15-Mar-08 19:41:04 [poop]|10:12 Ryan says, "Not much poopin' goin' on." [lounge]|10:16 Rob comes right on in. [lounge]|10:17 Rob says, "gblonk" [poop]|10:17 Rob says, "I just heard about that on the stephanie miller show" [poop]|10:17 Rob says, "still not clear why a tongue had to be used as a tool here" [lounge]|10:17 Johnny says, "Hey Rob" [robmumble]|10:18 Tale says (to rob), "I really liked the movie." [poop]|10:18 Ryan says, "Same as closing envelopes. Sometimes you just don't have a sponge handy, so you use what you've got." [poop]|10:19 Fang asks, "didn't stephanie miller write Twilight?" [poop]|10:21 Fang says (to Rob), "I suppose he liked the taste" [travel]|10:22 Rob says, "gee seems like that rule about turning off all electronic devices should apply to people in the cockpit, too" [travel]|10:23 Fang says, "I think it's basically bullshit" [travel]|10:23 Johnny asks, "So they don't get margarita on the electronics?" [robmumble]|10:23 Tale asks, "One thing confused me: What did the russian mean by "Now the US is showing their true color - not red white and blue but yellow and black"?" [robmumble]|10:23 Rob says, "ha ha" [robmumble]|10:23 Rob says, "well good" [robmumble]|10:23 Rob says, "hm" [robmumble]|10:23 Ryan says, "He meant we're all BEES! AAAAAA" [robmumble]|10:23 Rob says, "I dunno, yellow for cowardice, black for evilness, I guess" [robmumble]|10:23 Rob says, "or implied snakiness or something" [robmumble]|10:23 Rob says, "it sounded good when I wrote it and when the actor said it" [robmumble]|10:24 Rob says, "I never thought about it until now" [robmumble]|10:24 Ryan says, "Hmm. I prefer the bees explanation." [robmumble]|10:24 Rob says, "well don't trust the author" [robmumble]|10:24 Fang asks, "pee and poop?" [robmumble]|10:24 Tale says, "Never do," [robmumble]|10:24 Rob says (to Fang), "ha ha" [robmumble]|10:25 Gunther says (to Fang), "funny, that was my initial answer too" [robmumble]|10:25 Tale asks, "And is there a story behind the collapsing house? I don't hink you had the budget to pull that off, right?" [robmumble]|10:25 Johnny says (to Fang&Gunther), "You need to see a doctor." [robmumble]|10:25 Rob says, "it was designed to be something expensive looking at the halfway mark to give the whole thing a cred boost" [robmumble]|10:26 Rob says, "the story of it is on the commentary tracks, but basically we called to ask if there was a demolition company about to take anything down and if we could film it happening" [robmumble]|10:26 Rob says, "but it took several weeks of going back to the site again and again as city bureaucrats kept delaying giving them the proper permits" [robmumble]|10:26 Rob says, "and then all of a sudden it all comes down in 10 seconds and we hope to belboz we're rolling and ready" [robmumble]|10:27 Rob says, "it was munched down with a dinosaur-jaw like eating machine from behind, and the guy sort of deliberately knocked it over in our direction" [robmumble]|10:27 Tale says, "cool" [robmumble]|10:27 Rob says, "one of the many cool guys / companies / individuals who did something for free for the production just because it sounded fun" [robmumble]|10:29 Rob says, "every fifteen minutes or so something of slightly more obvious production value happens" [robmumble]|10:29 Tale says, "Funny story about that scene: You first see the agent who looks a bit like a hippie and I thought: "Wait a minute, that's Rob" and then it pans over and of course you are the other agent, dressed as the polar opposite." [robmumble]|10:29 Rob says, "ha ha" [robmumble]|10:30 Rob says, "well he is also a skinny guy" [robmumble]|10:30 Rob says, "he's also an indie filmmaker" [robmumble]|10:30 Rob says, "and the brother of the guy who played Alex Runyan" [robmumble]|10:31 Rob says, "who are both sons of the guy who played the russian scientist" [robmumble]|10:32 Rob says, "it's a home movie made by two families, the pascoes and the wheelers" [robmumble]|10:32 Rob says, "both families stuffed with actors and writers and directors and producers" [robmumble]|10:32 Ryan says, "I hope you have a feud going back generations about who killed whose pig." [robmumble]|10:32 Rob says, "we have whatever the opposite of a feud is" [robmumble]|10:32 Tale says, "Sounds like I really should watch the prequel" [robmumble]|10:33 Tale says, "Er, commentary track" [robmumble]|10:33 Rob says, "the story of making it is the real tale" [robmumble]|10:34 Johnny says (to Tale), "impostor!" [robmumble]|10:34 Tale sobs. [spelling]|10:35 Rob says, "feud, fuel, feud, fuel, feud, fuel" [spelling]|10:35 Rob says, "it's a typing tongue twister" [spelling]|10:36 Rob says, "and it's making both words look really strange to me" [robmumble]|10:37 Tale says, "I thought it was a black hole appearance that happened every 15 minutes" [robmumble]|10:37 Rob says, "by some coincidence that may be right" [robmumble]|10:38 Tale says, "Like the kills in slasher movies" [robmumble]|10:39 Rob says, "I wonder if the movie could ever be successfully up-rezzed" [robmumble]|10:39 Gunther says, "other changes: guns now walkie-talkies; Rob walkietalked first." [robmumble]|10:40 Rob says, "to go along with the surround sound mix it was always supposed to have, being a movie based around a sound effect happening" [robmumble]|10:40 Rob says, "exactly" [robmumble]|10:40 Rob says, "I can also see how this type of thinking leads to dark places" [robmumble]|10:40 Rob says, "leads to doubt, leads to fear, leads to anger, leads to the dark side" [lounge]|10:41 Gunther says, "csb" [lounge]|10:41 Gunther was like watching the world's most boring car crash, and then someone with a monotone voice overanalyzing it. [lounge]|10:41 Rob says, "heh" [lounge]|10:42 Gunther just looks like a moron throwing around jars of spiders... bitch please. [lounge]|10:42 Rob says, "that was a fast switch" [lounge]|10:42 Tale says, "He lives close to work" [robmumble]|10:43 Tale says, "The movie stands pretty well as what it is and wants to be." [lounge]|10:43 zarf walks in through the wall. Behind him, light shines briefly through, rosy pink this time of day. [lounge]|10:43 Rob says, "or he has very long arms" [robmumble]|10:43 Rob says, "thanks" [lounge]|10:43 Rob says, "g'zarf" [robmumble]|10:43 Tale asks, "Oh yeah, what was Adam Cadre doing in there?" [robmumble]|10:44 Rob says, "a cameo as a really geeky smart guy" [lounge]|10:44 zarf says, "that's an assumption" [lounge]|10:45 Johnny says, "It could be e-zarf (electronic zarf. AP proposes ezarf.)" [robmumble]|10:45 Rob says, "we were sort of at the peak of our getting along in those days and I just asked him if he wanted to do it, and he and Jearl came all the way out here for a day so he could do it" [robmumble]|10:45 Rob says, "I guess it was also the peak of his getting along with Jearl in those days" [robmumble]|10:46 Rob says, "the different types of guys who make up the think tank is my favorite bunch of casting choices" [robmumble]|10:46 Tale asks, "Wait, is Jearl in there?" [robmumble]|10:47 Rob says, "nah, but she was hanging out on set and stuff" [robmumble]|10:47 Rob says, "she's listed in the credits" [robmumble]|10:47 Rob says, "probably as a production assistant" [lounge]|10:47 Tale Damn, I'm called away for dinner. Thanks for sharing! I'll be back with more pestering questions later. [lounge]|10:47 Tale says, "ilac" [lounge]|10:47 Rob says, "seeya" [robmumble]|10:47 Tale says, "Damn, I'm called away for dinner. Thanks for sharing! I'll be back with more pestering questions later." [lounge]|10:48 Tale is fired from breathing. [lounge]|10:48 * Tale has disconnected. [lounge]|10:48 Rob says, "this might be a good opportunity to run an errand and go get brunch & coffee" [robmumble]|10:48 Gunther says, "dinner at 1648, huh" [robmumble]|10:48 Rob says, "hmm" [robmumble]|10:49 Rob says, "''dinner''" [robmumble]|10:49 Rob says, "brunch at 948 sounds much more likely" [lounge]|10:50 Rob says, "ok off I go tra luu tra lay" [lounge]|10:50 Rob moseys right on out. [web-toons]|11:00 markm says, "#amazingsuperpowers ha ha ha" [lounge]|11:10 Daddo quietly slips in. [lounge]|11:13 Hugo enters the lounge after having sawrn something narsty in the woodshed. [lounge]|11:14 * Marktwo has disconnected. [lounge]|11:14 * Marktwo has connected. [lounge]|11:16 * Marktwo has disconnected. [lounge]|11:16 * Marktwo has connected. [lounge]|11:18 Johnny says, "Hey Daddo and Hugo" [lounge]|11:22 Daddo says, "Hey" [lounge]|11:26 Johnny asks, "wussup?" [lounge]|11:29 josh_g is protected by public incredulity. [lounge]|11:30 josh_g says, "hi" [philosophy]|11:35 josh_g says, "I think I'm going to have to read Ian Bogost's latest book just to find out if he's pranking the world, or what" [hardware]|11:36 vimes asks, "dear bluetooth keyboard: you have never been paired to that machine, that machine has just been freshly formatted, you've always been paired to my machine, why did you suddenly turn up paired to that machine?" [hardware]|11:36 vimes says, "not just "trying to pair" but "actually sending input to"" [philosophy]|11:36 josh_g says, "he is going on about 'object-oriented ontology', which sounds like it's mostly "hey let's stop being so human-centric in what we know"" [philosophy]|11:37 josh_g says, "but he keeps dropping phrases like "the experiences of chalupas" as random examples" [philosophy]|11:37 josh_g says, "and it seems like if you drop the personification, aren't you just left with science? which, okay, but we have that" [lounge]|11:39 Daddo is no longer there. [lounge]|11:42 Roger is the Samuel L. Jackson of 8 month old wolves. [lounge]|11:42 Roger says, "Happy quatro de mayo all y'all" [philosophy]|11:43 Roger says, "Hunh" [philosophy]|11:44 josh_g says, "anyway here's hoping I can snag it from a library somewhere" [lounge]|11:44 inky has, however, forgotten to kidnap a preacher. [lounge]|11:44 genericgeekgirl says, "Hi Roger, inky" [lounge]|11:44 inky says, "good morning" [philosophy]|11:45 josh_g says, "and I guess, kudos to him for maintaining the "Weirdest, most famous guy I've ever worked for"" [philosophy]|11:45 josh_g says, "(since nobody knows or cares about individual producers at EA)" [hardware]|11:46 josh_g says, "weird" [philosophy]|11:46 Roger says, "I could go for some objection-based ontology" [philosophy]|11:46 Roger says, "Imagine you're casting a shadow in a cave OBJECTION" [philosophy]|11:47 inky asks, "wait, when did you work for Ian Bogost?" [lounge]|11:49 Tale's first civilian job after World War I was at the Oxford English Dictionary, where he worked mainly on the history and etymology of words of Germanic origin beginning with the letter W. [lounge]|11:49 Tale says, "re" [hardware]|11:49 vimes says, "i suppose i can /sort/ of understand the mouse, which doesn't require a passcode to pair" [hardware]|11:49 vimes asks, "but the keyboard?" [hardware]|11:49 Gunther says, "the answer is bluetooth" [hardware]|11:49 Gunther says, "BYKT" [hardware]|11:51 vimes says, "well yes" [philosophy]|11:51 josh_g says, "I did some contract programming for him the year after I got laid off" [hardware]|11:51 vimes says, "unfortunately it's what all the cool kids are being forced to use these days" [hardware]|11:52 vimes says, "at least if you want a reasonable keyboard without a number pad, and a mouse that doesn't randomly shove itself sideways" [philosophy]|11:52 josh_g says, "started working on a game that got canceled (that I may have been in over my head trying to implement anyway), then worked on a Flash newsgame that ended up on CNN's site, then a training game for Dominos, then abstracted that to a quiz-Flash-game structure he could use for other training games" [philosophy]|11:52 Johnny says, "It's a good thing there aren't IF tabloids." [hardware]|11:53 vimes says, "(i suppose the mouse thing isn't /quite/ true - i could get a logitech wireless mouse, which uses a dongle)" [philosophy]|11:53 Johnny | Josh Giesbrecht: "I got laid on by Ian Bogost!" [philosophy]|11:53 josh_g says, "the newsgame was pretty cheesy, it was basically pong with presidential candidates" [hardware]|11:53 Ryan says, "I have been using logitech wireless mice with usb dongles for years, and I love them." [philosophy]|11:53 josh_g says, "but Obama's special power was the best, thus obviously it was prescient" [hardware]|11:54 vimes says, "hardware i don't like the dongles, but i like the mice" [teaching]|11:56 josh_g says, "there are actual bundles of plastic algebra tiles in this math classroom" [teaching]|11:56 josh_g says, "man, it would be nice to work somewhere where people actually have decent resources" [teaching]|11:57 josh_g says, "also, weirdly, I'm subbing in a math 10 class and recognizing one student as a kid who was in my OWN math 10 class last semester at a different school, and (I think) failed there" [teaching]|11:57 josh_g says, "dude is so quiet I almost forgot his name" [teaching]|11:57 Roger says, "What are algebra tiles" [teaching]|11:57 josh_g says, "the quiet kids are always the hardest to connect to, and remember properly" [teaching]|11:57 Gunther says, "I hope you gleefully greeted him as "oh hey, Mark McFailypants. Still wet yourself when you get an F?"" [philosophy]|11:58 inky says, "oh hunh" [teaching]|11:58 Gunther says, ""because you will. Oh my god will you ever."" [teaching]|11:58 josh_g says (to Roger), "flat plastic squares / rectangles designed to be a good visual tool for talking about 1's and x's, or factoring / multiplying polynomials" [teaching]|11:58 josh_g says (to Gunther), "nah, I like the kid, he was just unnaturally good at quietly doing nothing" [teaching]|11:58 Roger says, "Hunh okay" [teaching]|11:59 josh_g says (to Roger), "you can see some virtual ones here: http://nlvm.usu.edu/en/nav/topic_t_2.html " [teaching]|11:59 Gunther says (to josh_g), "for the sake of comedy that does not matter" [teaching]|12:00 Gunther looks at example. Whaaaaaaaaaaaa? [teaching]|12:00 Gunther wets self [teaching]|12:03 Johnny says, "They're achievements." [teaching]|12:04 Gunther says, "I don't understand even the question" [wtf]|12:07 Gunther says, " http://edition.channel5belize.com/archives/69892 " [wtf]|12:07 Gunther says, "summary: John McAfee arrested in Belize" [wtf]|12:08 Gunther says, "he claims it's because he failed to "donate" money when it would've been prudent" [wtf]|12:08 Roger says, "Hunh" [wtf]|12:10 Ryan asks, "The antivirus guy?" [lounge]|12:10 ghira viene a bordo, cazzo [lounge]|12:10 ghira says, "meep" [lounge]|12:10 genericgeekgirl says, "Hi Ghira" [wtf]|12:10 Gunther says, "yes" [lounge]|12:12 ghira says, "ggg" [gplus]|12:14 Gunther says, "rgh" [lounge]|12:14 Johnny says, "Hey ghira" [lounge]|12:14 olethros has ordered three mega-generators to be installed in his boathouse. [lounge]|12:14 ghira says, "j. and o." [gplus]|12:14 Gunther says, "I turned off one circle entirely and now "All" shows me exactly 2 posts" [lounge]|12:14 Gunther says, "g, ggg" [gplus]|12:15 Gunther says, "despite all minus that circle shoulding[*] be exactly what it was before" [footnotes]|12:15 Gunther says, "[*] get that word already, English" [kitties]|12:15 Allen | The lion must have felt threated by the fact the baby was wearing a hoodie and tried to eat the baby in self defense.? [kitties]|12:16 Ryan says, "Ha ha" [kitties]|12:16 Ryan says, "Also eeeagh" [kitties]|12:16 Johnny asks, "YouTube?" [kitties]|12:16 Alex says (to Johnny), "Awwwk! Word on the street is that Youtube is a very popular video site that's been around for years before finally someone told Alex about it in June of 2010." [teaching]|12:16 josh_g asks, "belatedly, the question when you click on 'Algebra Tiles' on that page?" [teaching]|12:17 Gunther says, "yes" [kitties]|12:17 inky says (to Allen), "was the lion a) angry b) hungry" [teaching]|12:17 josh_g says, "oh hmm, that first one is a bit odd, using both x and y" [teaching]|12:18 josh_g says, "anyway the lengths of the tiles represent either a constant 1 for the sides of the small squares" [teaching]|12:18 josh_g says, "or an unknown x for the longer rectangles; the big squares are x^2" [teaching]|12:18 Gunther says, "already lost." [kitties]|12:18 Allen says, "here's the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6fbahS7VSFs " [teaching]|12:18 josh_g asks, "you know what (x+1)(x+1) works out to?" [teaching]|12:18 josh_g says, "you can use it to visualize that" [kitties]|12:19 Ryan says, "Man, babies have such terrible instincts." [teaching]|12:19 josh_g says, "oh never mind, this is one of those things that's best explained by moving things around and handwaving" [teaching]|12:19 inky says, "I don't see a question" [teaching]|12:20 inky says, "just a toy thing" [teaching]|12:20 Johnny says, "Over on the right in a frame." [cars]|12:20 Roger says, "You know what I haven't seen in a while? Grounding straps." [cars]|12:21 Roger says, "I never saw them a lot, but I don't think I've seen any in the last, oh, 5 or 10 years." [teaching]|12:21 inky says, "hmm, I have to hit more buttons at the top" [teaching]|12:21 inky asks, "I see a multiplying binomials one, is that it?" [teaching]|12:21 Johnny says, "Is it? (This question is worth 5 pts.)" [teaching]|12:22 josh_g says, "arrow it over to "Factoring Polynomials - 2" and that's more like what I used it for" [teaching]|12:23 josh_g says, "here's a set of tiles with areas that represent algebraic terms - if you can line them up into a perfect rectangle, then the length and width of that rectangle will be the factors of that polynomial" [teaching]|12:23 josh_g says, "eg. x^2 + 2x + 1 would be one big square, two long rectangles, one little square" [teaching]|12:24 josh_g says, "form them into a perfect rectangle, it'll end up having one long length and one short one along each side - thus (x+1)(x+1)" [teaching]|12:24 Gunther says, "...wow." [teaching]|12:24 inky says, "hunh, interesting" [teaching]|12:24 Gunther says, "this is the worst thing" [teaching]|12:24 josh_g (to Gunther) P [teaching]|12:24 inky says, "I mean, I guess we know that but it's hard to realize it intuitively" [teaching]|12:24 Roger says, "Hrm I find that easier to understand in the specific than in the general" [teaching]|12:25 Roger says, "But I guess with arbitrary scaling, sure" [teaching]|12:25 josh_g says, "this is one of those things that is not the only useful visualization out there, but one which they're *supposed* to be using in earlier algebraic concepts as well so they should be familiar with the shapes and ideas" [teaching]|12:25 Gunther says, "I've long since forgotten how to factor polynomials, of course, because obviously it's SO important that I haven't used it since 1996" [teaching]|12:25 josh_g says, "well, right" [teaching]|12:25 Gunther says, "screw you, achool" [lounge]|12:25 Recchi enters the lounge, triumphantly hoisting object #31337. [lounge]|12:25 Recchi says, "heyyy" [teaching]|12:25 josh_g says, "but if I put these tiles in front of you, you could move them around and factor it like a small visual puzzle" [teaching]|12:26 Roger says, "Gunther I am losing my respect for you as a master minmaxer" [teaching]|12:26 Gunther says (to josh_g), "I'm afraid I'd use the ZGI approach" [teaching]|12:26 Gunther says, ">HIT PUZZLE WITH CLUB." [teaching]|12:26 josh_g says, "ha ha" [lounge]|12:26 Jota arrives from the east. [lounge]|12:26 Jota greets. [teaching]|12:26 inky says (to josh_g), "yeah hmm" [teaching]|12:27 inky says, "it feels like this isn't giving them any understanding of the "real" way to do it" [teaching]|12:27 josh_g says, "anyway, my original point being, the actual physical plastic tiles are a LOT better than, say, paper cutouts, which is what I was stuck with" [teaching]|12:27 josh_g says (to inky), "true, they still have to practice it algebraically" [teaching]|12:27 Gunther says, "plus you can just wash off that kid's pee" [teaching]|12:28 josh_g says, "but it helps connect it to geometry, and reinforce that it isn't made-up gibberish but something that can have a physical meaning" [teaching]|12:28 josh_g says (to Gunther), "sorry, that's not covered under warranty" [teaching]|12:28 Gunther asks, "anyway, now I wonder how we learned it because I honestly have no idea anymore. integration and dwhatsitinenglish?" [mozilla]|12:28 lpsmith says, "#belated It took me half a minute to figure out that 'FF6' wasn't Final Fantasy 6." [teaching]|12:28 josh_g says (to gunther), "oh heck no, it's much earlier than calculus" [teaching]|12:29 Roger says, "I actually had a need for some algebra earlier but I wussed out" [teaching]|12:30 Roger says, "I have this chart of bodyweights and target weightlifting levels" [teaching]|12:30 Gunther says, "oh yeah, divide out the greatest common" [teaching]|12:30 Roger says, "So it's like bw:220 -- novice 305, intermediate 363" [teaching]|12:31 Roger says, "bw: 242 -- novice 318, intermediate 373" [teaching]|12:31 Roger says, "And wanted to interpolate along both axes but ennnhhh couldn't be chuffed to bother" [teaching]|12:31 Roger says, "I know that's a very exciting story." [teaching]|12:32 inky says, "I expect that's a case where you can get pretty close just eyeballing it" [teaching]|12:32 Gunther asks, ">LIFT WEIGHT WITH EYETEETH What?" [teaching]|12:32 Roger says, "Well my intermediate wussing was going to be just graphing it out and doing it analytically but I also wussed out at even that level" [lounge]|12:32 Allen goes home. [teaching]|12:33 Roger says, "So I decided hey this'll motivate me to drop an entire weight class" [lounge]|12:33 Guest1 arrives from the Toyshop, declaring, "It's Castle Grayskull -- AND IT'S MINE!" [lounge]|12:33 Allen is a short-sighted furry pretender to the throne of Schleswig-Holstein suffering from obsessive-compulsive disorder. Jota is a foxy goth prostitute with three overly-protective brothers. They are spreading malicious rumors about katre! [teaching]|12:33 Gunther asks, "onto what?" [lounge]|12:33 Allen says, "weird, screen became unkillable" [teaching]|12:33 Roger says, "But anyway it's one of those things that I guess I'm happy that I know I could figure it out if I really girded my loins" [lounge]|12:33 Allen says, "with ^A K" [teaching]|12:33 Roger asks (of Gunther), "Sorry what?" [lounge]|12:34 Roger says, "There can be only one" [teaching]|12:34 inky says (to Gunther), "onto his foot class" [lounge]|12:34 Gunther says, "it gained sentience" [lounge]|12:35 Guest1 scratches his head thinking about if the world will end [exercise]|12:35 Roger says, "Speaking of loin-girding, I ordered a belt for lifting finally" [lounge]|12:36 Guest1 says, "hello smahties,I'm from bauston." [lounge]|12:38 inky says, "delicious, delicious smarties" [exercise]|12:39 inky says, "ha ha" [exercise]|12:39 inky says, "that's loin *girdling*" [lounge]|12:41 Guest1 goes home. [lounge]|12:43 Tale is fired from breathing. [lounge]|12:43 * Tale has disconnected. [lounge]|12:43 Recchi goes home. [sf]|12:43 Jota says (to Gunther), "Oh, by the way: gung'f n pbzcyrgryl qvssrerag xvaq bs dhnaghz vzzbegnyvgl sebz jung V jnf guvaxvat bs, *but* gur nygreangr-havirefr-gung-whfg-unccraf-gb-or-rknpgyl-yvxr-jung-jr-jnagrq guvat vf n ybg yvxr fbzrguvat ryfr V'q orra guvaxvat/gnyxvat nobhg ng gur gvzr." [sf]|12:43 Jota says, "(To finish that conversation from several years ago regarding Olympos.)" [sf]|12:43 inky says, "ha ha" [sf]|12:44 Gunther says, "Alright then!" [comics]|12:45 inky | The closest thing to a canon explanation for the Hulk's extra mass (and Wolverine's regenerated mass, and Hank Pym's Giant Man mass and much more besides) is that it's accessed from another dimension. Affectionately known to some fans as THE MEAT DIMENSION. [sf]|12:45 Jota asks, "Also, is it just me, or were the actual ancient Greeks and Trojans several orders of magnitude less interesting than the moravecs?" [sf]|12:46 lpsmith asks, "Why.... would you rot13 that?" [sf]|12:46 Gunther says, "so you don't understand it" [sf]|12:47 inky says, "years ago when they had the conversation it was a spoiler" [sf]|12:47 Jota asks (of lps), "Because it talks about stuff that isn't revealed until late in the books?" [sf]|12:48 lpsmith asks, "There are books?" [sf]|12:48 Gunther says (to Jota), "depends." [sf]|12:48 Jota says, "Ilium and Olympos, by Dan Simmons." [sf]|12:48 lpsmith says, "Aha." [sf]|12:48 Gunther says, "(re the greeks/moravecs)" [exercise]|12:49 Roger says, "Well, yeah okay" [sf]|12:50 katre says (to lps), "ssh, I'm waiting for Homer to finish the trilogy" [sf]|12:50 Jota says (to lps), "Novels set in a mixture of the distant future and mythological past, in which the Greek gods live on Olympos Mons on Mars and use advanced technology to involve themselves in the Trojan War." [sf]|12:51 Gunther says, "PS don't buy Dan Simmons novels, he's a bigot and a racist" [sf]|12:52 inky says, "in the less-popular Odyssey 2, Helen gets kidnapped *again* and Ulysses has to get the gang back together for the boat ride of their life, plus cope with Achilles's sassy pre-teen son Billes" [sf]|12:52 katre says (to inky), "ha ha ha ha" [sf]|12:52 Gunther says (to inky), "that is all too scarily plausible" [sf]|12:53 maga says (to inky), "actually, the version where the kidnapped Helen was a simulacrum and the *real* Helen was hidden in Egypt for some reason is kind of in that model" [sf]|12:53 inky says, "oh hey yeah" [lounge]|12:53 Hjalfi says, "Offtime." [lounge]|12:53 Hjalfi enthusiastically mundanifies between spasms of personality-occultism and off-topic casual/social-leveraging. [sf]|12:54 Jota asks (of Gunther), "By the way, is the 'big and racist' thing just because of the Caliphate bit in Olympos, or because of something else?" [sf]|12:54 Gunther says, "Sorry, Agamemmnon, but the princess is in another razed city" [sf]|12:54 inky says, "he's written/blogged some other stuff like that but moreso" [sf]|12:54 Gunther says (to Jota), "that's the first indication of it. His last novel, Flashbang, and his "explanation" of how it's "not" bigoted or racist, are the real problem." [typos]|12:55 Jota says, "(How did I mistype 'bigot' as 'big'? Weird.)" [sf]|12:55 Gunther says, "where he's all "I took the bit about a mosque at Ground Zero out of my book because surely nobody would do that AND THEN SOMEONE DID" and similar lies and bullshit" [sf]|12:56 Gunther says, "and I just wanted to punch him in the face thrice for every single word" [sf]|12:56 Gunther says, "plus his message board is full of racist and bigoted cunts celebrating him, so" [sf]|12:57 Gunther says, "here: https://plus.google.com/112876605812284255081/posts/godxg4wGhJP " [sf]|12:59 Jota says, "Oh well." [sf]|13:00 Gunther says, "the downside of people having websites" [sf]|13:00 Gunther says, "though it was pretty obvious from Flashback itself" [sf]|13:01 Gunther says, "in the interest of full disclosure, I recovered the book and threw it into the paper trash instead, because we do recycling the proper way." [sf]|13:01 Jota says, "I guess I was being naive when I just interpreted the Caliphate stuff in Olympos as being 'typical powerful corrupt government engages in stupidly destructive warfare', rather than 'Muslim fundamentalists engage in global terrorrism even after taking over world'." [sf]|13:01 Gunther says, "yeah, at that point I still gave him the benefit of the doubt" [sf]|13:02 Gunther says, "but during Flashback it became impossible" [sf]|13:02 Jota says, "That is unfortunate." [sf]|13:04 Gunther says, "yes" [lounge]|13:06 olethros was so annoyed he sat down and angrily wobbled his jowls for a full 45 minutes. [lounge]|13:07 olethros says, "re-greet" [lounge]|13:08 Jota turns into a slimy toad! [minicomp]|13:09 baf says, "Well, I made an art." [minicomp]|13:11 baf says, "I hope someone picks it. I'm curious to see what someone else would make of it." [minicomp]|13:13 katre asks, "when is the art-picking and game-writing phase?" [minicomp]|13:13 katre says, "if it's between semesters I might participate" [minicomp]|13:14 baf says, "The art deadline is this Saturday." [minicomp]|13:14 baf says, "(at whatever momen maga wakes up)" [college]|13:17 markm says (to katre), "How's classes going? I have my final on Tuesday." [college]|13:18 katre says, "turned in my OS project tuesday" [college]|13:18 katre says, "OS final is next wednesday, programming Languages final is the Tuesday after" [college]|13:18 markm says, "woo" [college]|13:18 markm asks, "What features did your os get?" [college]|13:19 katre says, "you can see for yourself: https://github.com/katre/procsim " [college]|13:19 katre says, "it simulates process scheduling" [college]|13:20 markm guesses the use of a heap. [college]|13:20 katre says, "so I did about 16k data runs with four different algorithms and analyzed them" [obits]|13:20 Bishop says, "Adam Yauch, aka MCA, Beastie Boy." [college]|13:20 katre says, "see the results in analysis/final.xls and analysis/final.doc" [obits]|13:20 katre says, "!!!" [obits]|13:20 Roger exclaims, "!" [obits]|13:20 katre says, "aww man" [tasteless]|13:21 Roger says, "He's been telling everyone how ill he was for years and years but no one listened" [obits]|13:21 Roger asks, "From what?" [college]|13:21 markm says, "yay PiDigits" [minicomp]|13:21 baf says, "Actually whenever he wakes up on Sunday." [college]|13:21 markm says, "BRB, asking your VM to calculate the last digit of pi." [college]|13:21 katre says, "if you have a go compiler you can run it for yourself" [obits]|13:21 Bishop says, "Cancer. Apparently he was diagnosed in 2009, so I guess if you follow his life closely this wasn't actually a huge surprise." [college]|13:21 katre says, "sadly, I _can_ imagine a less efficient way to do that" [obits]|13:22 Roger says, "Hunh" [college]|13:22 katre says, "but not by much" [college]|13:23 markm says, "wow, this is a hell of a lot of work" [college]|13:23 markm says, "man, I'm glad I picked BU" [college]|13:23 katre says, "also, if you just want the last digit, use Bailey-Borwein-Plouffe" [obits]|13:23 inky says, "complications involving paul revere and a quart of beer" [college]|13:23 katre says, "I went ever so slightly overboard, I think" [telltalegames]|13:24 baf says, " http://youtu.be/c92jtBdOvrs " [hardware]|13:24 GDorn | http://www.yankodesign.com/2012/05/03/safety-drive/ [college]|13:24 markm says, "my final project was to give a presentation on the KMP string matching algorithm" [telltalegames]|13:24 baf says, "(As one Telltale employee put it, "Doug still lives on in my heart, and in 20% of playthroughs.")" [hardware]|13:25 GDorn says, "I'd end up sending it through the wash, though." [college]|13:25 katre asks, "are you taking summer classes?" [college]|13:25 katre says, "I am taking a formal logic class this summer, then networking and crypto in the fall" [college]|13:25 markm says, "And believe me, after 12 years at sun, Im' an expert at standing up and bullshitting my way through a presentation." [college]|13:25 katre says, "hee hee hee" [college]|13:25 markm says, "I'm not taking a class this summer, no. Oracle won't cover more than $5200 or whatever the limit is" [college]|13:25 katre says, "ah" [college]|13:25 katre says, "I will go slightly over the yearly limit, I think" [college]|13:26 markm says, "Julie's company pays 80% of whatever she spends, so she's been blasting her way through the courses." [college]|13:26 markm says, "We're going to Philly this June for her graduation." [college]|13:26 katre says, "nice" [minicomp]|13:26 maga says (to katre), "yeah, it'll probably be about a month, starting this Sunday (or maybe Monday, if it takes longer to sort out)" [hardware]|13:27 inky says, "not so safe then" [college]|13:27 inky says, "woo" [minicomp]|13:28 katre says, "I will ponder once finals are done" [minicomp]|13:28 baf says, "I can't wait to see all the art. I told one of the artists at work about it and she's contributing one or two pieces." [climate]|13:28 olethros says, "oi" [minicomp]|13:29 maga asks (of baf), "indeed? has she sent anything in already, or can I expect more things?" [climate]|13:30 olethros says, "I dont know what to say" [minicomp]|13:32 baf says, "I believe she has not sent stuff in yet." [minicomp]|13:33 baf says, "Either that or she's sent one piece in and is still working on the other. I'm not sure." [minicomp]|13:33 baf says, "If you got something from Jolie Menzel, that's her." [minicomp]|13:34 baf says, "(You got mine, I hope?)" [minicomp]|13:34 maga says, "I did" [minicomp]|13:34 maga says, "looks like I didn't send a confirmation email - sorry about that" [minicomp]|13:34 Gunther says, "the one by Vincent Bafheiser" [minicomp]|13:34 baf asks, "And are you not eager to see a game based on that image?" [quotations]|13:36 Gunther | I need a virgin's tear. I should ask some townswomen. [quotations]|13:36 Gunther asks, "most drily-worded RPG quest ever?" [quotations]|13:36 Roger says, "Dude just punch a baby" [minicomp]|13:36 maga says, "it's pretty good in that it's lots-of-smaller-elements" [quotations]|13:36 Gunther says (to Roger), "he *so* would" [minicomp]|13:37 maga says, "which is suggestive of lists, which are an IF-y sort of thing" [minicomp]|13:37 maga says, "I took a similar approach for some of mine" [drwho]|13:37 olethros says, "The mark of the Rani" [quotations]|13:37 Gunther says, "hey I'll ask this prostitute" [quotations]|13:37 (from markm) Gunther says, "Hey, prostitute, do you have any kids?" [minicomp]|13:37 baf says, "cool" [quotations]|13:37 Gunther says, "haaa ha ha" [hardware]|13:38 GDorn says, "actually, it'd probably hold up to washing, but the dryer might melt it." [climate]|13:38 Fang asks, "WHY DO YOU HATE AMERICA?" [lounge]|13:38 Rob comes right on in. [lounge]|13:38 Rob says, "gzporch" [lounge]|13:38 ghira says, "robble" [lounge]|13:39 Gunther says, "Rob w/Ear" [climate]|13:39 Roger asks, "How much time do you have?" [climate]|13:39 olethros says, "I can hate america all day long" [obits]|13:39 Rob asks, "there's one fewer beastie boy?" [tasteless]|13:39 Rob says, "ow" [climate]|13:39 markm says, "but I just want to be FRIENDS!" [tasteless]|13:40 Roger says, "mmhmm" [comics]|13:40 K-Y says, "belatedly, http://static.tumblr.com/3f0mz4y/Mttlz1o6b/meatdimension.jpg " [comics]|13:40 olethros says, "!" [college]|13:40 Rob asks (of markm), "are you pursuing a degree?" [comics]|13:41 Roger says, "I, uh, oh gosh. irta 'bowel'" [college]|13:41 markm says, "Yeah, a master's degree in CS" [college]|13:41 (from katre) markm says, "And I'd have caught it, too, if it weren't for those pesky do-gooders!" [comics]|13:41 baf asks, "Is that where Meat Boy comes from?" [college]|13:41 markm says, "heh" [college]|13:41 Rob says, "ah, excellent" [college]|13:42 markm says, "Only 3.5 more years to go!" [college]|13:43 katre says, "if I can keep up taking two classes a semester I can maybe finish by 2013 or early 2014" [college]|13:43 Rob says, "a dashing young man in a rakish mortar board graduation hat you will be" [comics]|13:43 K-Y says, "if you combine all these interpretations of the phrase, it's actually a very horrible thought" [comics]|13:44 Roger says, "That implies there exists non-horrible interpretations" [comics]|13:44 Roger says, "Which I don't think is possible" [college]|13:45 Rob | i think they look funny. haha. my ceremony will be this may and im just wondering why the tops of them are flat? [money]|13:45 Roger says, "Today is Canadian Last Penny Day" [money]|13:45 Rob says, "wow" [money]|13:45 Rob says, "think how much the last penny will be worth someday" [money]|13:45 Roger says, "I wonder if 2012 pennies will be worth something from a shorter run" [money]|13:46 Rob says, "maybe as much as a penny" [money]|13:46 Roger says, "It's like we all have money on our mind for some reason" [money]|13:46 Rob says, "timing" [money]|13:47 Gunther says, "it might be worth as much as 2 pennies, which nobody can pay you." [startrek]|13:47 markm asks, "Man, Star Wars gets all this May the 4th shit. What does star trek get?" [money]|13:47 Ryan says, "Less Money, Fewer Problems" [startrek]|13:47 Gunther says, "worse and worse" [money]|13:47 Rob says, "load up with sacks of them and see how much you can bench press" [startrek]|13:47 markm says, "bwa ha ha" [startrek]|13:47 Rob asks, "gets all this what?" [startrek]|13:47 Roger asks, "hmmm they've got first contact day don't they?" [startrek]|13:47 Gunther says (to Rob), "you will so regret you ask" [startrek]|13:48 markm says (to Rob), "I take it you've been spared all the "May the 4th be with you" tweets." [startrek]|13:48 Rob says, "hmm. yup" [startrek]|13:48 Gunther says, "and now you're regretting it" [startrek]|13:48 Rob says, "ehh" [startrek]|13:48 Rob says, "I was trying to think if that was the anniversary from 1977 opening day or something" [money]|13:48 Roger says, "My encumbrance is soooo many copper pieces you don't even know bitches" [drwho]|13:49 olethros says, "oh, the master" [money]|13:49 Rob says, "and here is the dimly lit video to prove it" [money]|13:49 Ryan asks, "Have I told you guys the story about the client who paid his bill in pennies?" [drwho]|13:49 Rob says, "yep" [money]|13:49 Gunther says, "I remember it!" [money]|13:49 Roger exclaims, "I don't think so!" [drwho]|13:49 Rob says, "soon you will learn to distrust all scripts by pip and jane baker" [money]|13:49 Gunther says, "it is worth hearing" [money]|13:49 Ryan says, "Okay!" [money]|13:49 Rob says, "I recall not" [money]|13:50 Roger says, "This one time a client paid his bill in pennies. The end." [money]|13:50 (from markm) Ryan says, "One time, a client paid his bill in pennies. Ha ha!" [money]|13:50 markm says, "dammit" [money]|13:50 Gunther says, "ha ha" [money]|13:50 Roger says, "Haha" [money]|13:50 Ryan says, "So we built this guy a site, working with him the whole way through, the way we do, and hooray, it's a nice site, and we launch it, and ask for his outstanding balance." [money]|13:50 Ryan says, "He comes back and says he's not happy with the site anymore, and won't pay." [money]|13:50 Rob says, "the ol took-the-time-to-do-a-whole-@emit-and-lost-the-joke-race trick" [money]|13:50 markm says, "yeah :(" [money]|13:51 markm says, "Also I wasted valuable milliseconds debating whether to end with 'the end' or 'ha ha'." [money]|13:51 Ryan says, "We say, okay, then we'll take down your site. He says we shouldn't, we didn't do what he wanted, etc. This goes back and forth for a while." [money]|13:51 Rob says, "thedailywtf" [money]|13:51 baf says, "Well, that's okay, right? You were happy to do the work for him gratis just on the off-chance that he's like the result." [money]|13:51 markm says, "ha" [money]|13:52 Rob says, "he's so not like the result" [money]|13:52 Ryan says, "Eventually he grumpily says he'll pay, and a few days later, a sweaty out-of-breath UPS guys shows up at our office with a handtruck stacked with cardboard boxes." [money]|13:52 Rob says, "sheesh" [money]|13:52 Rob says, "passive aggressive massive" [money]|13:52 Ryan says, "$700 in pennies weighs close to 400 lbs." [money]|13:52 Rob asks, "how do you get that many pennies?" [money]|13:52 Bishop says (to Rob), "Special-order from a bank/the mint, I suppose." [money]|13:53 Rob says, "also you lose money converting those into cash in those machines" [money]|13:53 Ryan says, "The company president, upon opening a box and seeing what's inside, quietly tapes it up again and tells the UPS guy, "I'm really sorry about this, but I'm going to refuse delivery."" [money]|13:53 Rob says, "such institutions should say 'sorry, no, only wiseasses order this many pennies'" [money]|13:53 markm says, "how much did that cost to ship?!" [money]|13:53 Rob says (to markm), "hah, hooray" [money]|13:53 Rob says (to Ryan), "yay also" [money]|13:54 inky says, "man, poor ups guy" [money]|13:54 baf asks, "So did you ever get pais in an acceptable way?" [money]|13:54 Ryan says (to baf), "Nah, we told the client to shove it." [money]|13:54 baf asks, "And took the site down?" [money]|13:54 Ryan says, "Yeah." [money]|13:54 Rob says, "spanish for peace" [money]|13:54 Bishop asks, "Did you keep the cash? Or tell him he could pick it up?" [money]|13:55 Bishop says, "Oh, ah, refused delivery, missed that." [money]|13:55 Rob says, "good story" [money]|13:55 baf says, "bad client" [sf]|13:55 lpsmith says, "#tangent I was going to joke 'Hey, $700 is only X in pounds!' but it turns out that $700 is actually 433 pounds sterling." [sf]|13:55 lpsmith says, "er." [money]|13:55 lpsmith says, "#tangent I was going to joke 'Hey, $700 is only X in pounds!' but it turns out that $700 is actually 433 pounds sterling." [money]|13:55 Rob says, "you have to picture this guy going through all the trouble (and weight-lifting) to first furiously come to the idea of doing this, then executing it, paying for it, then having it all come back to him, and having to deal with it" [money]|13:56 markm says (to lpsmith), "ha ha" [tangent]|13:56 Rob says, "heh" [sf]|13:56 Bishop exclaims, "So next time someone asks for payment in pounds, give 'em pennies!" [sf]|13:56 Bishop says, "Er, ILAC, obviously." [money]|13:56 Rob says, "oh weird, why did I think that was on #tangent instead of #sf" [sf]|13:56 Rob says, "I think that was one of the rallying cries at lexington and concord" [tangent]|13:57 lpsmith says, "Because I explicilty said "#tangent"." [sf]|13:57 Rob says, "oh that's why" [money]|13:57 Gunther says, "#belatedly "but keep one of the boxes as a tip"" [tangent]|13:57 Rob says, "#sf oh that's why" [tangent]|13:57 lpsmith says, "Yay" [money]|13:57 Rob says, "hee hee" [money]|13:57 Rob says, "'tip, my ass' he said, tipping over on his ass" [money]|13:57 Gunther says, "then tipping out all the boxes" [videogames]|13:58 Gunther says, "as much as I enjoy the Witcher despite all the tedious walking back and forth, I have never before noticed copy+paste design so obviously" [money]|13:58 Rob says, "you could make a scrooge mcduck wading pool out of it" [videogames]|13:59 Rob says, "like all the scenery repeats" [money]|13:59 markm says, "'Tip, my ass,' Tom said asthmatically." [videogames]|13:59 Rob says, "maybe it's like a hannah barbera cartoon" [videogames]|13:59 Gunther says, "many of the houses are exactly identical" [videogames]|13:59 Gunther says, "there are about 8 character models total" [lounge]|14:00 Rob says, "back later" [lounge]|14:00 Rob moseys right on out. [videogames]|14:01 (from Johnny) Gunther says, "7 of them are women." [money]|14:02 Ryan says (to markm), "Nice" [sf]|14:05 zarf | The hidden easter egg in "Halting State" is that at no point does the book use the words "computer" or "software". [lounge]|14:05 Ellison has appeared in three Bigfoot/Abominable Snowman-themed movies: Bigfoot: The Unforgettable Encounter, Little Bigfoot and Abominable. [videogames]|14:05 (from josh_g) Gunther says, "4 of which vary only by boob jiggle animation parameters" [videogames]|14:05 Gunther says, "yeah, it's not like that" [videogames]|14:06 josh_g says, "yeah okay" [videogames]|14:06 Gunther says, "ironically it's mostly the "old crone" and "posh merchant" ones that stands out" [obits]|14:07 Ellison says, "cancer? I thought those were those guys who had licenses to be ill or something" [obits]|14:08 Gunther says, "boo" [videogames]|14:09 K-Y says, "so this is like Omikron" [videogames]|14:09 K-Y says, "where every three steps in the street you pass by the same guy/lady again" [videogames]|14:10 Gunther says, "you don't notice it as much on the street" [videogames]|14:10 Gunther says, "but character closeups are identical." [videogames]|14:10 Gunther says, "all old women are exactly identical" [videogames]|14:10 Gunther says, "many of the others are, cleverly, soldiers or workers, and thus naturally would all wear the same garb" [lounge]|14:11 BrenBarn busta. [lounge]|14:11 Johnny says, "Hi Ellison and BrenBee" [lounge]|14:11 BrenBarn says, "howdy" [lounge]|14:13 Emily arrives. [sf]|14:13 inky says, "hunh" [lounge]|14:13 Johnny says, "Hi Em" [lounge]|14:13 Emily says, "hey" [obits]|14:14 Ellison says, "I enjoyed that Will Ferrill and Jack Black video they shot the other year" [lounge]|14:14 Ellison says, "hey BrenBarn and Emily" [lounge]|14:16 marc in the land of the lounge lizards. [lounge]|14:16 marc says, "homewoolongweekendwoo" [Sierra]|14:17 Gunther says, "Well!" [Sierra]|14:17 Gunther says, "Pinkerton got some outside funding and *will* be doing 2 games" [lounge]|14:17 Johnny greets mark soberly. [lounge]|14:18 Johnny says, "Er, marc" [CCG]|14:22 baf says, "In last night's office M:tG session, we tried a variant called Commander." [CCG]|14:23 Gunther asks, "ooh, did you like it?" [Skyrim]|14:23 Gunther says, "orouboric? more like orouBORING" [lounge]|14:24 Emily asks, "how's it going?" [lounge]|14:24 olethros has ordered three mega-generators to be installed in his boathouse. [CCG]|14:24 baf says, "You start with 40 health and a 100-card deck in which no non-land card is repeated, and you get to pick one Legendary Creature as your Commander, which basically means it doesn't have to be in your hand for you to cast it and every time it dies you can cast it again for two more mana than the last time." [CCG]|14:25 baf says, "I think I did like it. It makes for a long, high-powered game." [CCG]|14:25 baf says, "Mind you, I own only one legndary creature, and it's an old one. Legendary creatures are a lot more powerful these days." [CCG]|14:25 Psmith asks, "which one, out of interest?" [CCG]|14:26 baf says, "Kei Takahashi" [CCG]|14:26 Psmith says, "ugh. Underpowered even by Legends legend standards." [CCG]|14:26 baf says, "2/2, costs 1 white 1 green 2 colorless, tap to prevent 2 damage to any creature" [CCG]|14:28 baf says, "Also, one of the other players was playing a Sliver deck, with Sliver Overlord as his Commander." [CCG]|14:28 Psmith says, "you didn't mention the key constraint on Commander decks, though, which is that you can only run cards that are one (or more) of your commander's colours." [CCG]|14:28 baf says, "Ah, right." [CCG]|14:29 inky asks, "hmm, isn't that a problem with a sliver deck?" [CCG]|14:29 inky says, "...oh, I see" [CCG]|14:29 baf says, "Sliver Overlord is every color." [CCG]|14:30 baf says, "Actually, Psmith's phrasing isn't quite accurate. The constraint is that you can't have anything in your deck that has a color that your commander doesn't have." [CCG]|14:30 baf says, "So, colorless artifacts are okay." [CCG]|14:30 baf says, "And putting a white-red under a white-green commander is not." [CCG]|14:31 Psmith says, "well, right. (Even more strictly, it looks at "colour identity", which takes into account mana symbols in the text box as well as casting cost.)" [CCG]|14:31 baf says, "Yeah." [kickstarter]|14:31 Nitku says, "heh, Penny Arcade" [nameless]|14:31 Ellison says (to Emily), "I did my own write-up: http://www.joltcountry.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=68207 " [lounge]|14:31 Storme enters. [lounge]|14:31 Storme says, "hi all" [lounge]|14:32 Johnny says, "Hi Storme" [CCG]|14:32 baf says, "We had six players, and I was kind of surprised at the degree to which we failed to gang up on the sliver guy." [CCG]|14:33 Psmith says, "multiplayer politics is what Commander is all about." [CCG]|14:33 inky says, "man" [vimesical]|14:33 markm says (to vimes), "if you get this in scrollback: it's your turn in ascension" [CCG]|14:33 inky asks, "a 6-player game where everyone starts with 40 life?" [CCG]|14:34 Psmith says, ""long and high-powered", as baf said." [CCG]|14:34 baf says (to inky), "By the end, people are hitting each other for like 25 points with no chance of blocking." [merited-inflows]|14:34 Storme says, "seriously" [vimesical]|14:35 Gunther says, "man, these n00bs are the worst" [kickstarter]|14:35 Johnny says, "Oh, the comic." [merited-inflows]|14:35 Storme says, "the devs we outsourced this project to" [kickstarter]|14:35 Johnny says, "'Cause all that came up was http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/moustachejim/old-time-3d-burlesque " [merited-inflows]|14:35 Storme says, "make me want to smack them so hard" [CCG]|14:35 baf says, "Note especially that creatures that power up in response to some game event tend to power up faster with more players." [CCG]|14:37 baf says, "Like, one player had Thraximundar as commander, which gets a +1/+1 token every time someone sacrifices a creature." [merited-inflows]|14:38 Storme says, "but at least the feeling is probably mutual" [merited-inflows]|14:38 Storme says, "every time I find the bit of the FRS that means they have to do work" [CCG]|14:38 baf says, "(Thraximundar by the way is also a zombie, and there was a fun moment when it was all big and buff and scary and then I brought out a Slayer of the Wicked, killing it instantly. It came back after a while, because it was a Commander, but without the +1/+1 tokens.)" [lounge]|14:39 boucher enters the lounge after having sawrn something narsty in the woodshed. [videogames]|14:39 inky says, "#gender this is kind of meandering but still interesting: http://killscreendaily.com/articles/essays/behind-every-great-pixel/ " [CCG]|14:40 Psmith says, "yay. (I wouldn't have thought Slayer was all that effective in the format generally, though; the creature types it hits are going to be a lot more diluted than in something more Innistrad-focused.)" [vimesical]|14:40 vimes asks, "hm, is it supposed to give me a notification when it's my turn?" [vimesical]|14:40 markm says, "yes, but it's unreliable" [vimesical]|14:40 vimes says, "indeed so" [vimesical]|14:41 markm says, "carcassonne does it well, but it's the only multiplayer game I have which does" [vimesical]|14:41 markm says, "Oh, wait, also Hero Academy" [lounge]|14:41 Johnny says, "Hey boucher" [lounge]|14:42 boucher says, "Hiya" [penny-arcade]|14:43 K-Y says, "so much for journalism http://penny-arcade.com/report/editorial-article/selecting-victims-in-assassins-creed-3-these-are-real-people-and-this-is-wh " [penny-arcade]|14:44 K-Y says, "(pretty sure the SA AC LP guy already confirmed that they had to fudge some of the historical figures)" [lounge]|14:44 elf has a sheet of triangle-grid paper, a straightedge, an X-acto knife, and several sheets of 3M Diamond Scotchlite vinyl. [penny-arcade]|14:45 Gunther | But if you research the named characters that fall to Altair and Ezio, you’ll find that their in-game deaths line up with history [penny-arcade]|14:45 Gunther sends link to Let's Play of AC2 which shows roughly 80% of them don't. [penny-arcade]|14:45 inky says, "I don't understand the point of this conceit" [penny-arcade]|14:46 inky asks, "like, do you kill them in a way where it looks like they "really" died of the black plague or something?" [penny-arcade]|14:46 inky says, "because if you just stab a dude you aren't really not changing history" [penny-arcade]|14:46 K-Y asks, "because anyone who actually does research will discover that they fudged it, and anyone who doesn't research won't appreciate the effort at all?" [penny-arcade]|14:46 K-Y says, "oh" [penny-arcade]|14:46 Gunther says (to inky), "for further news see http://www.slow-news-day.com " [lounge]|14:46 Fang is told of the death of Christ, and becomes so angry that the brain bursts from his head, and he dies. The blood from the wound baptises him as a Christian, and his soul goes to heaven. [penny-arcade]|14:47 Johnny says (to Gunther), "1) There was no CSI. 2) Had there been, the Romans would've been busy trying to count it to notice anything weird." [penny-arcade]|14:47 K-Y says, "I think the idea is 'historically this person could have been stabbed by an assassin secretly'" [penny-arcade]|14:47 Gunther asks (of Johnny), "eh?" [tangent]|14:47 Johnny says, "I don't actually know when those games take place." [penny-arcade]|14:47 K-Y says, "@recapc penny" [penny-arcade]|14:47 K-Y says, "er" [penny-arcade]|14:48 Gunther says (to Johnny), "they put people in time periods where they weren't, or made their deaths earlier or later, or just made up people." [penny-arcade]|14:48 Gunther says, "also oops I missed where K-Y mentioned Geop before I did" [penny-arcade]|14:50 K-Y says, "I have to say, PA Report turned into 'do nothing but promote upcoming games' way sooner than it was supoosed to" [penny-arcade]|14:50 inky asks, "Geop is the guy on the let's play thread who points out when people are being made up?" [penny-arcade]|14:50 boucher says, "I especially bristle at the inaccuracies of Assassin's Creed: Enough Already, which was supposedly set a week ago, but includes characters which weren't alive during that period, and take wild liberties in depicting the ones that were." [penny-arcade]|14:51 K-Y says, "he's the LPer" [penny-arcade]|14:51 K-Y says, "who makes hour-long historical documentary videos to go with the LP" [penny-arcade]|14:52 K-Y says (to boucher), "it's not the game, it's 'what happened to this supposed reconceptualizing of games journalism'" [penny-arcade]|14:54 boucher says, "'And that NPC was known as...Leonardo da Vinci. And now you know the rest of the story.'" [lounge]|14:55 elf says, "Hi there" [penny-arcade]|14:55 boucher says (to K-Y), "I gathered, but since I have entirely ignored their efforts, the game is all I have to make fun of." [CCG]|14:56 K-Y says, "it's weird how far Commander has come" [CCG]|14:57 K-Y says, "from niche house rules to officially supported format for casual play with its own cards" [penny-arcade]|14:59 boucher says, "I stopped enjoying a comic quite some time ago, they deserve kudos for starting Child's Play but it feels like they don't really matter to it anymore, I think PAX is great but I'd never attend personally, their news posts range from mildly informative to senselessly self-indulgent, and...just the general Penny Arcade corporate empire that now exists is not something that has a great track record of producing the sorts of things that I am likely to get excited about." [lounge]|14:59 Ellison goes back to Squeamhurst.. [lounge]|14:59 * Ellison has disconnected. [CCG]|14:59 K-Y says, "WotC used to not even print cards that contemplate the existence of more than one opponent" [penny-arcade]|14:59 boucher says, "s/a comic/the comic/" [penny-arcade]|15:00 boucher says, "So when I heard something about them revolutionizing games journalism, I meh'ed even harder than I normally would at such rhetoric." [CCG]|15:00 Psmith says, "and now they're printing ones that allow for starting life-totals other than 20." [penny-arcade]|15:01 K-Y says, "I will say that I was surprised by the fighting game article" [penny-arcade]|15:01 K-Y says, "but in retrospect that, too, was entirely 'mouthpiece for one guy at Capcom'" [CCG]|15:01 Roger says, "Hunh" [penny-arcade]|15:02 K-Y says, "even if it is a guy people generally approve of" [CCG]|15:02 inky says, "oh, hunh" [lounge]|15:03 Storme was a still life lived on mobile phones. [lounge]|15:03 * Storme has disconnected. [CCG]|15:04 K-Y says, "there was a phase in between where they said 'well, we'll inconspicuously slip in a few cards that are better in multiplayer without being useless in duels'" [CCG]|15:05 K-Y says, "they've been doing this for so long that there are basically distinct, multiple eras now" [CCG]|15:07 baf says, "#belated Two reasons I had Slayer of the Wicked in that deck:" [CCG]|15:08 baf says, "1. We had done an Innistrad draft not too long ago, so I figured at least one of the other five players might want to put some of their new vampires or zombies in their decks" [CCG]|15:08 baf says, "2. Thanks to having only one potential commander, I had to play white/green. And I just don't have a lot of good white creatures." [beer]|15:08 inky | http://beerrightnow.com/ [apropos-of-nothing]|15:09 BrenBarn says, "in this 1001 nights story I was reading last night, there was a bit that would work well as a jo-mama-so-fat joke" [CCG]|15:10 Psmith asks, "not in a position to scavenge someone's excess commons?" [apropos-of-nothing]|15:10 BrenBarn | When she takes a walk and waddles in the west, [apropos-of-nothing]|15:10 BrenBarn | She crushes the ground so that the east is shaken. [CCG]|15:10 baf says, "I have my pride." [CCG]|15:11 Psmith says, "well, most people would prefer that they get used rather than sitting around dust-gathering, I think." [lounge]|15:11 Hugo goes home. [lounge]|15:11 * Hugo has disconnected. [apropos-of-nothing]|15:13 inky says, "ha ha" [lounge]|15:13 Fang is a veritable smorgasbord of visual variables. [apropos-of-nothing]|15:13 inky says, "good use of waddle" [apropos-of-nothing]|15:14 BrenBarn says, "wins the xyzzy for best use of waddle" [CCG]|15:15 K-Y says, "interestingly, read the other day that the vast majority of new cards are opened during drafts" [apropos-of-nothing]|15:16 Roger says, "Yo momma so fat, she won both the waddle and wattle categories." [CCG]|15:16 Psmith says, "that'd go much more for MTGO than for paper, I'd have thought." [apropos-of-nothing]|15:17 BrenBarn says, "this story is just about this guy who has six slave girls and makes them insult each other" [CCG]|15:18 baf says, "Well, I can attest that the majority of cards I've opened lately have been during drafts." [CCG]|15:18 baf exclaims, "It's like buying boosters, but you make a game of it!" [CCG]|15:19 Psmith says, "including prize packs _from_ those drafts? The thing being that on MTGO you can use those packs to enter further drafts, unlike RL." [CCG]|15:19 baf says, "Seriously, why buy cards and not make a draft of it? You're just wasting draft potential that way." [CCG]|15:19 Gunther says (to baf), "if only there were card games that emulated that without having to keep buying MtG cards!" [CCG]|15:19 Gunther says, "(not that there's anything wrong with buying MtG cards)" [CCG]|15:20 baf says (to Gunther), "Sure, you can just leave off the 'and not make a draft of it' clause and the question still makes sense." [CCG]|15:21 baf says, "Also note that when I say that the majority of cards I've bought lately have been in drafts, that's mainly because I generally don't buy cards." [lounge]|15:22 elf goes home. [music]|15:25 Gunther says, "I am cramming my mp3s down (or I guess up) Google's throat as fast as possible" [jobs]|15:29 markm says, "Here's a thought for when you're coming up with names. 'Oracle Applications Framework' does not acronymify well." [jobs]|15:29 markm | D2k to OAF Transformation [jobs]|15:29 markm | OAF Hello World tutorial [jobs]|15:29 BrenBarn says, "heh" [jobs]|15:29 markm | Create OAF Search page [jobs]|15:29 zarf asks, "was it once a Java Applications Framework?" [jobs]|15:30 markm says (to zarf), "Good question." [music]|15:30 Gunther says, "(JaFfa)" [jobs]|15:30 zarf says, "probably not, really" [jobs]|15:30 zarf says, "but I have no idea" [music]|15:30 Gunther says, "lac" [music]|15:30 Gunther says, "but not funny anyway" [jobs]|15:31 Gunther says, "anyway, OAF is taken by Once And Future" [comics]|15:32 Roger | http://www.blogcdn.com/www.comicsalliance.com/media/2012/05/hottoysavengersthor16main.jpg [comics]|15:32 Roger says, "I like the way Thor appears to be standing on a pile of severed hands" [jobs]|15:32 baf asks, "Is OAF at all compatible with agile development?" [personals]|15:37 BrenBarn says, "this person has only one public question" [personals]|15:37 BrenBarn | How do you eat your cupcake? [personals]|15:37 BrenBarn | [ ] Always start with frosting [personals]|15:37 BrenBarn | [ ] Always starts with the cake [personals]|15:37 BrenBarn | [ ] I don't have a consistent way of eating a cupcake [mud-updates]|15:38 Roger says, "I for one am glad to see that @recrap has not been implemented" [personals]|15:41 BrenBarn asks, "is this some kind of euphemism?" [personals]|15:43 Emily | [ ] The whole point of frosting is to be eaten concurrently with the cake, so you should take a bite containing both. PS a well-made cupcake will have a ratio of frosting to cake of about 1:3.5. [exercise]|15:43 Roger says, "Hunh this guy is selling a bunch of weights, including some 12.5-pound plates" [exercise]|15:43 Roger says, "Which I've never heard of before" [personals]|15:43 BrenBarn says, "that was my answer" [lounge]|15:44 Ellison arrives from the east. [personals]|15:44 Emily says, "(exceptions to the proportion rule may be made for frosting with a different degree of richness, such as glazes, cream cheese frostings, or whipped cream frostings)" [lounge]|15:46 Jizaboz isn't much of a wizard. [lounge]|15:46 Jizaboz says, "Good afternoon." [lounge]|15:47 Ellison says, "afternoon, Jizaboz" [jobs]|15:51 Emily says, "I hate days where we change something about version control" [jobs]|15:52 Emily says, "I'm always convinced I'm going to screw up and get lost in a unixy sea and RUIN EVERYTHING FOREVER" [jobs]|15:52 Ryan says, "But then you can just roll back to the morning and try again." [jobs]|15:52 zarf says, "the best version control systems provide a fine blend of power-drunk euphoria and terror" [jobs]|15:52 zarf says, "with a hint of rosemary" [jobs]|15:55 Emily says, "my problem is that most of my understanding about how git works comes from typing error messages into Google and then doing whatever Stack Overflow (or whatever) turns out to advise; I don't feel like I have an in-depth comprehension that would allow me to make up my own answers" [jobs]|15:55 Emily says, "so when something doesn't go exactly as expected my hair stands on end" [personals]|15:56 BrenBarn | I like knitting but nothing I make ever fits me quite properly, so my house is full of knit mobius strips and insects. [personals]|15:57 Ellison says, "heh" [jobs]|15:58 baf says, "If you're doing much more with version control than get, check-out, and check-in, then someone is probably using it wrong. Not necessarily you." [jobs]|15:58 zarf says, "mm, I don't agree. If there are two people involved, there will be merging" [jobs]|15:58 zarf says, "and possibly branches" [jobs]|15:59 Emily says (to baf), "well, mostly I'm not (and the occasional merge); but today someone (not me) moved and restructured the repository for what are probably valid reasons" [jobs]|15:59 Emily says, "but this has led to a flurry of figuring out my process all over again" [jobs]|15:59 baf says, "If there's a lot of merging, then the thing you're doing wrong is at the level of how your code is organized into files." [jobs]|15:59 zarf says, "I have made mistakes with the simplest branch-merge that left me in this level of existential git-terror" [personals]|15:59 Nitku says, "It's annoying when you knit a mobius strip and it doesn't fit" [jobs]|16:00 Roger says, "There's a level of fear that only comes from "I know this works but I don't know why"" [jobs]|16:00 zarf says, "I was able to get out, but I can't explain how" [lounge]|16:00 Hugo enters the lounge. What do you, the detective, want to do about it? [lounge]|16:00 (From Hugo) > [jobs]|16:01 Emily says (to baf), "no, I mostly don't have to do manual edits; most of our file organization allows for automatic merges almost all the time" [lounge]|16:01 Ellison says, "DUFFY, ANALYZE HUGO" [jobs]|16:01 zarf says (to baf), "also you are generalizing outrageously about workflows and how people use version control" [jobs]|16:02 zarf says, "anyhow" [tangent]|16:02 Ellison says, "hmmm, how about a Deadline-type IF game where the final move is , J'ACCUSE" [tangent]|16:02 BrenBarn says, "ha ha" [jobs]|16:03 zarf says, "my way of seeing into git is a lot of "git log" (what does it think the history is, and what changes does it think are in) and a lot of "git diff" between commits (what does the repository look like at different steps)" [jobs]|16:03 zarf says, "when I am unsure, those are the things I do to orient myself" [jobs]|16:03 Emily says, "yeah, that makes sense" [tangent]|16:05 inky says, "in an ironic twist, the character's name is Jack Hewes" [tangent]|16:05 Ellison says, "HA" [tangent]|16:05 Ellison says, "oops" [lounge]|16:05 (From Hugo) Hours later, after exhaustive analysis, Duffy returns from the lab to tell you they found nothing of interest. Nothing at all. [tangent]|16:05 Roger says, "The victim was found in a Jacuzzi" [lounge]|16:06 Ellison says, "heh" [tangent]|16:06 Ellison says, "nice" [tangent]|16:06 zarf says, "and was killed by a Black Ooze." [tangent]|16:06 Gunther says, "when you first meet him, he's out in the sea by a signal tonne, so you call AHOY, BUOY BOY" [tangent]|16:06 Roger says, "I got the Black Oozy Jacuzzi Blues" [tangent]|16:06 BrenBarn says, "and for the murder weapon, a jack was used" [tangent]|16:07 Ellison asks, "not Jack's Uzi?" [tangent]|16:07 Roger says, "Haha" [tangent]|16:07 Roger says, "turns out introcomp is SO EASY you guys" [lounge]|16:08 Ellison says, "ok, off again" [lounge]|16:08 Ellison goes back to Squeamhurst.. [lounge]|16:08 * Ellison has disconnected. [tangent]|16:09 BrenBarn says, "the game also includes a really buff prostitute (a jacked floozy)" [tangent]|16:09 K-Y says, "watch as we recreate the Phoenix Wright series" [tangent]|16:09 lpsmith says, "His romance novel pseudonym is Jack Thews." [lounge]|16:11 Nitku leaves. [tangent]|16:12 K-Y says, "actually, the murder weapon was that he sneezed his brain out really loudly" [tangent]|16:12 Roger says, "Eww" [TV]|16:13 Hugo asks, "Time to sell the TV?" [TV]|16:13 baf says, "dude" [TV]|16:13 baf says, "it's always time to sell the TV" [TV]|16:13 Hugo says, "Michael Bay pirate TV series." [TV]|16:14 K-Y says, "fortunately some countries are required to block pirate Bays now" [TV]|16:15 Gunther asks, "is it named Pirates of Asplodia?" [TV]|16:18 Gunther | The series, which will likely premiere in 2014, will take place 20 years before Robert Louis Stevenson's classic novel "Treasure Island," following the adventures of pirate Captain Flint and his crew, including a young Long John Silver. [TV]|16:19 Gunther says, "orson_welles_clapping.gif" [lounge]|16:19 BrenBarn flashes the "catch you later" handsign. [TV]|16:23 Hugo says, "Every movie/TV/whatever pitch features a young-fill-in-the-blank." [TV]|16:23 Hugo says, "Fuck these idiots." [videogames]|16:23 Gunther says, "there, chapter 3 finally done" [TV]|16:24 Gunther says, "meanwhile, in the world's biggest injustice, someone *else* dies of salivary gland cancer" [TV]|16:24 Gunther says, "and not that drooling moron Bay" [TV]|16:27 baf says, "Hm." [TV]|16:27 baf says, "I actually read Treasure Island for the first time not too long ago. (It was included for free with either iBooks or the Kindle app for iPad, I forget which.)" [ganja]|16:28 GDorn | http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/student-locked-cell-5-days-forgetful-dea-agent-sues-20-million-article-1.1071920 [ganja]|16:29 GDorn | DEA agents forgot the young man was in their custody, with business as usual continuing in the office as Chong screamed for help and started hallucinating. [TV]|16:30 baf says, "It struck me the way I think a lot of seminal adventure stories do: simpler and less extreme than the things that came later and elaborated on the foundation it laid." [TV]|16:32 baf says, "In other words, a real anticlimax for the end of any pirating career that Michael Bay had a hand in." [TV]|16:34 baf says, "Jim spends about half the book hiding." [TV]|16:35 Gunther says, "well. previous excesses mean that everyone's out of explosives, gunpowder, ammo, ..." [TV]|16:37 baf says, "At least it has a premise with a built-in slot for untold adventures, so Bay doesn't have to chisel one in himself." [tangent]|16:39 McMartin says, "I fully believe this is how the Phoenix Wright series came to exist" [teaching]|16:41 josh_g says, "some days I hate marking other people's stuff. wait, actually, all days" [teaching]|16:41 josh_g | A Sketch proves nothing show work to prove your answer. [TV]|16:42 K-Y says, "they announced that new God of War" [teaching]|16:42 josh_g says, "...on a question which, if you don't draw a sketch first, you are royally screwed" [TV]|16:42 K-Y says, "with the untold adventures of YOUNG KRATOS" [teaching]|16:42 josh_g says, "the implication of the drawing being "not real math work" is mildly pissing me off" [TV]|16:42 zarf says, "farming, learning to masturbate" [TV]|16:43 Gunther says, "Kratos accidentally breaks Gungn... wait, wrong mythos" [TV]|16:43 Hugo says, "Ah, youth." [tangent]|16:44 baf says, "Also, there would be a scene where a Rastafarian explains that even God has to wait on lines sometimes." [tangent]|16:44 baf says, "'Jah queues', he explains." [TV]|16:45 boucher says, "God of Minor Fistfights After School" [TV]|16:45 Gunther says, "If they made a GoW prequel that was Farmville I would laugh" [TV]|16:46 K-Y says, "Rockstar will see you in court" [videogames]|16:47 zarf says, "I know this is futile wishing, but it would be really awesome to do a God of War prequel where Kratos is this skinny kid who is all about parkour and stealth moves instead of clobberation" [videogames]|16:47 zarf says, "also, I'd be more interested in that" [videogames]|16:47 K-Y says, "and wears a white hood" [videogames]|16:48 zarf says, "I was thinking of jodhpurs" [videogames]|16:51 Gunther says, "They'll have to step GoW up a LOT if they want to compete with Asura's Wrath" [videogames]|16:51 McMartin says, "I like the variant name 'Wad of Gore'" [videogames]|16:52 zarf says, "that is good" [videogames]|16:52 Gunther says (to McMartin), "Wad of Gore: FROBAG edition" [videogames]|16:52 Roger says, "In some myths Mars started off as a dancer" [videogames]|16:53 josh_g asks (of Roger), "are you sure you don't mean painter?" [videogames]|16:53 McMartin says, "Also, I think that I too would like to play a Mirror's Edge style game with takedowns that was not by Ubisoft" [videogames]|16:53 McMartin says, "Though I do still have two by Ubisoft left in my queue." [videogames]|16:53 zarf asks, "which ones?" [videogames]|16:54 zarf says, "('Mirror's Edge', he said)" [videogames]|16:54 McMartin says, "Assassin's Creed Brotherhood and Assassin's Creed Revelations." [videogames]|16:54 McMartin says, "Mirror's Edge is by DICE and published by EA" [videogames]|16:54 Gunther says, "also there needs to be an Assassin's Creed: Death Curse, or AC/DC" [videogames]|16:55 zarf says, "ah" [videogames]|16:55 zarf says, "I played ME, but AC1 annoyed me and so I dropped the series" [videogames]|16:55 zarf says, "now I wish there were alternatives" [videogames]|16:55 McMartin says, "My big problem with AC3 is that the American Revolution is already fertile ground for secret conspiracy history, so they should have fastforwarded it a couple of hundred years and had the faces of the two warring factions be Edison and Tesla" [wtf]|16:56 zarf says, " http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYykpRRuHQM " [videogames]|16:56 baf says, "Next game." [videogames]|16:56 McMartin says, "Well, maybe 'next number', since that's too far afield in time" [videogames]|16:57 McMartin says, "And AC game numbering is already at Street Fighter II levels of silliness" [videogames]|16:57 zarf says, "and after that, Sergey Brin vs Zuckerberg" [videogames]|16:57 McMartin says, "It's not 'obvious' which side is the Assassins there." [videogames]|16:57 McMartin says, "Though I've forgotten if the fluff has already assigned Tesla. I know it's assigned Edison." [wtf]|16:58 baf says, "It makes me happy that this exists." [videogames]|17:00 K-Y says, "I like how the article from earlier put it" [videogames]|17:00 K-Y says, "with AC3 the people you are killing are now in Find-A-Grave territory" [videogames]|17:00 K-Y says, "I guess that's my wording, actually" [videogames]|17:00 McMartin says, "This is also sort of a problem with secret history at this remove" [videogames]|17:00 McMartin says, "But if we can get Disneyfied action movies out of it, we can get stealth murderization games" [videogames]|17:01 Gunther says, "there better be a Whipple Van Buren Phillips you can kill who also summons Cthulhu" [lounge]|17:01 marc goes home. [lounge]|17:01 * marc has disconnected. [videogames]|17:01 McMartin says, "Spoiler: Cthulhu is actually on the PC's side" [videogames]|17:01 McMartin says, "(Not actually a spoiler)" [videogames]|17:01 Gunther says, "I can't believe I even remembered that name" [videogames]|17:01 McMartin says, "It looks like AC3 is still in the pre-Revolution timeframe though." [videogames]|17:02 McMartin says, "I don't know who Whipple Van Buren Phillips is, though, will search later" [videogames]|17:02 Gunther says, "HPL's grandfather" [videogames]|17:02 Gunther says, "(H P Lovecraft, that is)" [Skyrim]|17:03 Gunther says, "#palin-sux It had to happen. http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=66349052 " [videogames]|17:04 K-Y says, "in modern day the secret organizations can't really front them" [videogames]|17:04 K-Y says, "selves as prolific tech companies" [videogames]|17:04 K-Y says, "I would think it would be something huge and monied yet boring, like catering conglomerates" [booze]|17:08 Bishop asks, "So, evidently kids today are drinking hand sanitizer. Whatever happened to just stealing from your parents' liquor cabinet?" [lounge]|17:09 Rob comes right on in. Recapped 918 of 3543 lines from recent channels. Current time: Friday, 4 May 2012, 05:09:10 PM EDT Rob says, "splrch" [booze] Rob says, "gross" Gunther says, "Goodrob" Rob says, "GesundGunther" [booze] Rob asks, "do they use non-toxic alcohol in hand sanitizer?" Gunther says, "ComputerSwitchenderBastard" Gunther was like watching the world's most boring car crash, and then someone with a monotone voice overanalyzing it. You cannot become a viking overnight, unless you are a viking, in which case you can. Rob asks, "was, againlicht?" [booze] Roger says, "My bottle here says: ethyl alcohol, isopropyl alcohol, etc" [booze] Rob says, "sheesh kids" [booze] K-Y says, "most of them are just ethanol" [booze] Rob says, "of course I have access to my parents' liquor cabinet so I'm biased" [booze] Rob says, "probably a good thing, even if people are abusing it" [booze] Rob says, "I raided it minutes ago in fact" (Current channel set to #tech/kickstarter) [robmumble] Rob says, "it seems like I could kickstarter a project if I picked the right project" [robmumble] Rob says, "and nailed the presentation part of it" [robmumble] Rob says, "but I haven't ever decided which project to pick" [robmumble] Roger says, "Well sure" [videogames] Roger says, "Hmmm so I see there's Tropico 4 now. I really liked #3." Oh, I'm sorry, was it a *private* distress signal? Gunther just looks like a moron throwing around jars of spiders... bitch please. [robmumble] Rob says, "because if I ever do it I wanna nail it" [robmumble] vimes says, "kickstart your kickstarter project decision process" [robmumble] Rob says, "and I just haven't been confident enough about which way to go" [robmumble] Roger says, "Kickstart all of them, make the crowd decide" [robmumble] Rob says, "that's possible" [robmumble] Rob says, "though requires more exertion" [robmumble] Gunther says, "Jensen fell spectacularly flat with that" [robmumble] Rob says, "I mean I could do six to eight 'easily'" [robmumble] Rob says, "but I'd rather do one best starter one and have it be a good go than do a bunch and have most of them be empty exertions" [robmumble] Gunther says, "you should kickstart finishing subtitles for Krone!" [robmumble] Rob says, "because I came to a crisis point six weeks ago where I didn't want to emptily exert myself any more" [robmumble] Gunther says, "goal $12" [robmumble] Rob says (to Gunther), "well, that would be nice, but" [robmumble] Rob says, "yeah see $12 isn't really good enough" [robmumble] Rob says, "I dunno though, maybe it would be if enough people sent $12" [robmumble] Rob says, "several years ago a blind person wrote to me about krone wondering if it were fully subtitled so that he could enjoy it" [robmumble] Rob says, "I also always wanted to have subtitles in other languages, which would take some funding to do" [robmumble] Roger says, "Rob seems a little more emotionally-unstable than usual these days" [robmumble] Rob says, "I'm just being more open about my various instabilities these days" [robmumble] Rob says, "having gotten to a crisis point where all bets are off" [robmumble] Roger says, "That sounds fair enough" [robmumble] Rob says, "I spent a year or so trying to get LoneCleric (remember him?) to do a french translation of the dialogue but he quit after a partial attempt" [robmumble] Roger says, "Oh yeah, that guy" [robmumble] Rob says, "I just can't do any more work for free" [robmumble] Rob says, "so I stopped working last month" [robmumble] Rob says, "it's been a nice vacation" [robmumble] Roger says, "I bet" [robmumble] Rob says, "but now that my earworm has been destroyed I am trying to figure out something optimistic to do that will actually bring in revenue" [robmumble] Gunther says, "well if you sent me the full english subs I would do german ones. for free." [robmumble] Rob says, "ok gunther I will eventually take you up on that" [robmumble] Roger says, "I'll do Canadian ones for you" [robmumble] Rob says, "I prepared something sufficient for that for lonecleric so it must be in my archives somewhere" [robmumble] Gunther says, ""It's black poutine, eh"" [robmumble] Rob says, "this is where I need kickstarter money to afford to hire an assistant who will find these things in my archives" [robmumble] Rob asks (of Roger), "are you that fluently bilingual?" [robmumble] Rob says, "or are you just going to ad ', eh?' to all the english dialogue" [robmumble] Roger says, "I can offer complete color -> colour conversion" [robmumble] Rob says, "a digital colourist would unironically be good" [robmumble] Gunther says, "CMYK -> CMYK, EH" [robmumble] Roger says, "That I can't do for any amount of loonies nor toonnies" [robmumble] Roger asks, "So hrm are you trying to determine which project you're most passionate about, or which would provide the most money (or both)?" [robmumble] Rob says, "I know there are outfits that do translation text for movies for hire, but I have never been able to afford to hire them" [robmumble] Gunther says, "fwiw the "professional" translation agencies I had to work with were terrible" [robmumble] Rob says (to Roger), "I guess at this point it's the latter, rather than the former, because up till now I've pursued passion as far as it went, and it didn't net me much of anything" Hugo goes home. Hugo has disconnected. [robmumble] Rob says (to Gunther), "yeah, which is why I always will pick someone I know / someone someone I know knows over any unknown company/service" [robmumble] Rob says, "there's a lot of things I'd like to do if I had the resources to do it" [robmumble] Rob says, "I've come to the end of trying to do everything myself, because I can't keep doing the same thing and expecting different results without thinking I'm insane" [robmumble] Rob says, "but I need to earn some honest money doing my stuff or else I'm hosed" [robmumble] Rob says, "so it's all heavily on my mind" [robmumble] Roger asks, "What's made you money in the past, if anything?" [robmumble] Rob says, "well you can at least see what the first half hour of krone subtitles look like in english from the dvd" [robmumble] Rob says, "1) krone 2) IF 3) drawing/comics 4) web design work 5) all other freelance" [robmumble] Rob says, "hm I guess 1.5 was movie audio work for a few years" [robmumble] Roger says, "I hear Matthew has a hot screenplay" [robmumble] Rob says, "uh huh" [robmumble] josh_g says, "hot audio-on-screenplay action" [robmumble] Rob says, "I've got 23 screenplays sitting around that have earned jack squat" [robmumble] Roger says, "Oh" [robmumble] Rob says, "actually matthew has a stageplay not a screenplay" [robmumble] Rob says, "I've got four of those" [robmumble] Roger says, "Oh yeah" [robmumble] Rob says, "but I don't expect to make any money with them" [robmumble] Rob says, "though I might like to publish them as a collected ebook" [robmumble] Rob says, "but I don't expect that to get me anywhere so I'm currently not doing it" [nameless] josh_g says, "so I clicked on Emily's review, saw the first paragraph mention a twist, and decided, what the heck, I should try this" [nameless] josh_g says, "and I think I'm stuck on the first puzzle" [robmumble] Rob says, "I thought I'd be a lot further along after 20 years of toil" [nameless] josh_g says, "I fail at actually-hard IF" [robmumble] Roger says, "Hunh" [robmumble] Rob says, "but I'm still at square one" [nameless] josh_g says, "note: probably this isn't actually hard, I'm just impatient" [robmumble] Gunther says, "ok, so the first thing we need to do is rename this for the German audience. "Das Krone-Experimnt" doesn't cut it, so we'll call it "Hitlers geheimes schwarzes Loch"" No such channel: 'namesless' (also tried 'namesles'). [nameless] Rob says, "that's my problem these days" (Current channel set to #misc/personal/robmumble) [robmumble] Rob says, "wunderbar" [nameless] josh_g asks, "fb qb V arrq gb znantr gb trg gur erq qnegf bhg bs gur one evtug ng gur fgneg, be vf gung cbvagyrff?" [nameless] josh_g says, "oh hey I forgot I have this set to auto-un-rot13 things. but oh well, this is probably the least spoilery question ever" [nameless] josh_g says, "(ie. oh well if someone else did too and I didn't warn)" I "so do I need to manage to get the red darts out of the bar right at the start, or is that pointless?" Tale's first civilian job after World War I was at the Oxford English Dictionary, where he worked mainly on the history and etymology of words of Germanic origin beginning with the letter W. Rob says, "g'Tale" Tale says, "hey kids" [movie] Tale says, "Back from Avengers." [movie] Tale says, "Surprisingly, not that bad." [movie] josh_g asks, "did they ... Avenge?" [robmumble] K-Y says, "the thing I've come to realize is that especially in the arts everyone is always talking past each other when they talk about success" Rob says, "speaking of wunderbar, wienerschnitzel, and wilkommen" You mute #media/movies/movie temporarily (but fixed). Rob mutes #movie Tale asks (of rob), "..Sorry?" [space] Allen says, "ah, thank god" [nameless] josh_g says, "I guess I will remain confused since I should get outta here" josh_g will call him Pootel; Henry Pootel for short. I have Futura envy. Rob says, "I haven't seen it!" [space] Allen | Saturday's 'Supermoon' Won't Destroy Earth Tale says, "Oh" Rob says, "it only opened here today" Tale says, "No spoilers planned!" Rob says, "and I won't see it until tuesday" [robmumble] Rob says, "I went for a decade or so thinking I didn't care about worldly success because I knew I was doing cool things, but now I can't go on any more without having at least some validation" [robmumble] Rob says, "professional or financial" [space] Rob says, "what is this supermoon stuff" [space] Rob says, "what is a supermoon" [robmumble] K-Y says, "yeah, it should be in terms of what you need" [nameless] inky says, "oops" [robmumble] Rob says, "I would still be more sanguine but it's driven my mother into an inescapable depression" [space] Allen says, "Gunther was playing down its dangerous potential this morning" [space] Allen says, "I found it rather suspicious." [space] K-Y asks, "this morning?" [robmumble] Rob says, "my life is a failure, so therefore her life was, too" [space] Allen says, "but now Fox News says it's no danger, so it's alright" [space] K-Y says, "bb #space=191" [robmumble] Rob says, "which I keep wanting her not to burden me with (oh good, two failures are my fault), but she does anyway" [space] Allen says, "he was going on about it this morning too" #191 [sci/space] From: Gunther Date: 11-Mar-11 21:51 Subject: "Supermoon" debunkage http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/03/11/no-the-supermoon-didnt-cause-the-japanese-earthquake/ [space] Allen says, "I'd never heard of the supermoon before last year. And now we've gotten 2 in a year" [space] Allen says, "maybe it's tied to carbon dioxide in the atmosphere" [space] Rob says, "yeah I thought they were supposed to be super rare" [robmumble] lpsmith says, "Man." [space] Rob says, "without even learning what it is I've thought that" [robmumble] Rob says, "yeah, uhhuh" [robmumble] lpsmith asks, "Could you go live with your brother instead of your parents?" [robmumble] K-Y says, "it's the hardest part of solipsism" [robmumble] K-Y says, "other people" [robmumble] Rob says, "it would be the same problem in a much less nicer place to live" [space] DorianX says, "I remember Neil DeGrasse tyson explaining how supermoons aren't reall rare" [robmumble] Rob says, "and she would still be feeling the same way" [space] DorianX says, "but in typical NDGT style, it was like "News people are saying they're rare, because they are dumb. Supermoons are really common, occuring every few centuries"" [space] Rob says, "when's the nearest full moon to today, plus or minus" [space] Rob says, "heh" [space] Rob says, "astronomers think on different scales" [space] Rob asks, "is there going to be a supermoon on dec 21 2012?" [space] Rob says, "because that'd be some shit" Recapping 48 of 48 lines from media/movies/movie: [movie]/001 inky | And I'd argue that in Elf, Will Ferrell is the Manic Pixie Dream Guy and Zooey Deschanel, ironically enough, is the Joseph Gordon-Levitt to Will Ferrell's Zooey Deschanel. [movie]/002 Roger says, "Hunh! I should digest that a bit." [movie]/003 Roger says, "He's sort of asexual for a manic pixie role" [movie]/004 baf asks, "Elf is also the only movie I know of where Zooey doesn't sport bangs. Coincidence?" [movie]/005 Rob says, "she doesn't? huhh" [movie]/006 Rob says, "hah" [movie]/007 baf says, "She's blonde, even." [movie]/008 olethros says, "Fury is black? cool" [movie]/009 Fang says, "he was in Iron man 2" [movie]/010 Gunther says (to olethros), "the horse? Yes" [movie]/011 K-Y says, "this is a great story but I think I've already told it enough times" [movie]/012 olethros asks, "which story? of how jackson became fury?" [movie]/013 Johnny | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultimate_Nick_Fury#Publication_history [movie]/014 K-Y says, "that I think was basically because they modeled him after Jackson in the comics, expecting to end up asking him to play the role in the movies" [movie]/015 K-Y says, "and it worked" [movie]/016 olethros says, "ha" [movie]/017 olethros reads the wiki article [movie]/018 olethros | The similarity is even noted within the comic itself, in a scene in which the Ultimates discuss who they think should play each of them in a hypothetical movie about the team. [movie]/019 olethros says, "ok, that is a bit too much" [movie]/020 Gunther says, "unsubtle comics? stop the press" [movie]/021 K-Y says, "the story, though, is about how they are this year addressing the problem that regular Nick Fury is still white" [movie]/022 Johnny says (to Gunther), "It *was* written by Mark Millar." [movie]/023 K-Y says, "maybe that's in he article too by now" [movie]/024 Johnny says (to K-Y), "Yep." [movie]/025 Johnny says, "No scan though." [movie]/026 Fang finishes watching The Dark Knight [movie]/027 Fang says, "what I don't get is that at one point, Maroni, the mafia boss" [movie]/028 Fang says, "goes 'this has gone too far'" [movie]/029 Fang says, "and says he'll tell Gordon Joker's whereabouts" [movie]/030 Fang says, "but nothing seems to come of that" [movie]/031 Fang asks, "what gives?" [movie]/032 K-Y asks, "which part was this?" [movie]/033 Fang says, "uh" [movie]/034 Fang says, "towards the end" [movie]/035 Fang says, "I think they cut to Lau being burned alive" [movie]/036 K-Y says, "I don't remember this at all, honestly" [movie]/037 K-Y says, "Ebert is once again wondering why those nerds don't go do something more worthwhile with their time" [movie]/038 K-Y says, "there's a part of me that gets less interested in Movies the more that Ebert touts their Meaningfulness" [movie]/039 K-Y says, "I think this must be one of those generational conflicts too" [movie]/040 Johnny says, "Just saw the Battleship trailer." [movie]/041 Johnny says, "So stupid." [movie]/042 Tale says, "Back from Avengers." [movie]/043 Tale says, "Surprisingly, not that bad." [movie]/044 josh_g asks, "did they ... Avenge?" [movie]/045 Tale says, "there was indeed some avenging" [movie]/046 K-Y says, "it was to forestall any further jokes about 'but what are they avenging'" [movie]/047 Tale says, "THor turns out to be a half-god, and this goofy doctor turns into the Hulk!" [movie]/048 McMartin says, "I'll have to fall back on my LDA #." [space] inky says, ">COMPUTER, LOWER PANTS" Quote added to inky's quotebook. [space] Rob says, "pants lowered to 1%" [space] inky says, "ha ha" [Crafters] Roger | General Business [Crafters] Roger says, "err" [space] Rob says, "sitting position 1 enabled sir" [space] Tale asks, "Will he show Allegra his other q-computer?" [space] inky says, "put all freed-up energy fabric towards socks" [Crafters] Roger | http://www.westnc.com/paper-tape-rolls.html [space] Rob says, "hee hee energy fabric" [space] Gunther says, "only a real master can moon and run at the same time" [Crafters] Bishop says, "Hmm. 1 inch wide would be about perfect. I don't need $82 worth, though." crumple crumple crumple [space] Rob says, "you're always thinking with your little-q" Rob says, "hey, it's crumple" crumple says, "hi" Rob says, "how you crumplin' man" Login name: crumple In real life: Jeremy Freese Location: Adventurer's Lounge Gender: Male Member since: 20-Sep-08 12:47:42 Currently logged in. Previous login: 04-May-12 01:14:57 Email: jeremyfreese-at-gmail; IF work: Violet URL: jeremyfreese.wordpress.com Plan: Mary Worth (AIF) Not a valid command. Try typing 'help'. crumple is crumplerrific. I don't know where that player is. Rob says, "good to hear" Rob says, "I feel like I haven't seen you in 8 to 14 months" Tale says, "Yeah, he crumpled away from us" boucher goes home. Bobby, for the thousandth time, it doesn't matter how bleak your eschatology gets, we can't afford a new bike right now. Rob says, "what the crump" Rob says, "that's almost a woody allen ish disconnect" Rob says, "in one of his flashback to childhood modes" Rob says, "well it's high time he recrumpled" Rob says, "I've at least tried to rerobulate" baf says, "It's a SMBC quotation" Tale asks, "I have to sleep, so someone please say "I guess that's just the way the cookie crumples" later, okay?" Tale is fired from breathing. Tale has disconnected. Gunther says, "you can't make a cookie without crumbling a few omelettes" vimes says, "you know who else crumbled cookies? COOKIE MONSTER HITLER." baf exclaims, "Omelette you finish, but crumple has one of the best cookies of all time!" vimes says (to baf), "heh" McMartin says, "One of the better SMBCs." Gunther says, "Adolf Keks"