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ifMUD
An interactive real time social network chat bulletin board
quotebook url database with a parrot bot
Copyright 1997-2007 by Loungent Technologies, a wholly owned subsidiary of
rec.[arts|games].int-fiction; All rights reserved.
Release 4 / Serial number 990908 / perlMUD v2.1z
    "The characters were mostly of the cardboard cutout variety.
    I wanted to punch everyone except the one Scottish guy."
         --Jearl
  NOTE: Whenever a fix or enhancement is in place, it will be announced
  on the channel '#mud-updates'.
  OTHER NOTE: There is a mailing list where people can say things like
  "hey, the mud's down, what's up with that?" In fact, since this is
  the only thing the list is used for, you should join it if you are
  interested in this subject. To join, go to
    http://groups.google.com/group/ifmud/
  or talk to Steve.
Robinson Manor
A gracious, welcoming, airy space. Music drifts in from unseen speakers. A picture window on the southern wall provides a pleasant source of light and a sense of openness.
You can see: teleporter, a picture window, comfy sofa, Jeopardy podium, buzzer1, buzzer2, buzzer3, Jota greets Rob
Visible Exits: west, east
<Rob> Olly says, "Golly."
No new channels have been created since your last check.
Adventurer's Lounge
Candles on the wood-panelled walls create a comfortably dark atmosphere. Hand-drawn maps are taped to nearly every surface -- the walls, the ceiling, the trophy case in the corner. Seating is plentiful. A small storage closet is to the north.
You can see: new laundry list, Birthday Calendar, magic laundry list, blank banner, Even Newer World Map, charset sampler, Automeeter, TheMasterTheorem player names, time zones, MUD Client Wish List
Players: Alex, Jon, markm, Bishop, Ryan, Doug, GDorn, Allen, Touchy, DorianX, Jearl, Psmith, lpsmith, baf, Grocible, annabianca, Matthew, Lionheart, Dave, schep, vaporware, Jacqueline, vimes, maga, zaphod, genericgeekgirl, DavidW, Johnny, marc, Marktwo, ghira, Ellison, borowski, Firion, Lucea, boucher, Hugo, nm, Miseri, inky, McMartin
Visible Exits: north, west, southwest, southeast, up, east
Rob comes right on in.
Recapping 1000 of 3792 lines from recent channels:
[movie]/16:36 Iain says, "Oh him!"
[movie]|16:36 Fang says, "haha"
[movie]|16:36 Roger says, "(Not really)"
[movie]|16:37 Fang asks, "he, er, was part of the three moves ahead podcast?"
[movie]|16:37 inky says, "you may remember him as Reporter #2 in west wing"
[movie]|16:37 Iain says, "Hee hee"
[movie]|16:37 inky says, "and "Guy" in King of Queens"
[overheard]|16:37 Roger | Our house, for the better part of the day, faces south.
[movie]|16:37 Fang says, "he gave Killzone 2 3/10 or something"
[movie]|16:37 Iain says, "I definitey think I've surfed past that show."
[movie]|16:37 Iain says, "Er, definitely."
[overheard]|16:37 Olly says, "Hah."
[overheard]|16:37 vimes says, "baba yaga realty"
[movie]|16:37 Iain asks (of Fang), "Isn't that a game?"
[overheard]|16:38 Olly says, "Or a rotating house."
[movie]|16:38 Fang says, "yeah, he wrote for Computer and Videogames magazine"
[movie]|16:39 Iain says, "So what would actually be useful information is if you could interpret the review, and say without spoilers whether you think it is the kind of thing I'm looking for or not."
[movie]|16:39 Iain says, "Which is what other people did."
[food]|16:40 DavidW says, "Chewing gum seems to be helping."
[movie]|16:40 Iain says, "But I'll make a mental note to check out those tracts, too."
[food]|16:40 inky asks, "it's caused by getting too much of the pineapple core enzyme in with the slice, right?"
[food]|16:41 Iain says, "Is that a real thing? It sounds like something from James Bond."
[movie]|16:41 Hugo says, "It's this year's Scream, if you can think back to when people oohed and ahhed at Scream for subverting and reinventing the horror genre."
[movie]|16:41 Hugo says, "Neither of which it did."
[food]|16:41 Olly says (to inky), "I don't know."
[movie]|16:41 Fang asks (of Iain), "what sort of thing are you looking for?"
[food]|16:41 DavidW says, "'core enzyme'? I was gnawing the core, yes."
[food]|16:41 Olly says (to inky), "It seems to happen more when the pineapple isn't ripe enough."
[food]|16:42 inky | I always knew the pineapple core was editable but it.s way to hard/chewy for me.
[movie]|16:42 Iain says, "Something that isn't a gorefest, I guess."
[food]|16:42 Roger says, "It's such a real thing that pineapple workers often lose their fingerprints entirely"
[movie]|16:42 Iain says, "Like it's okay if it's tasteful gore in service to the plot."
[movie]|16:42 Grocible says, "that leaves out an Inconvenient Truth"
[movie]|16:42 baf says, "snrk"
[movie]|16:42 Gunther says, "*nobody* wants to see that"
[food]|16:43 Olly says, "That really sounds like something in James Bond."
[movie]|16:43 Fang says, "I think it's somewhat gorey, but not a gorefest"
[movie]|16:43 Fang says, "it's not torture porn anyway"
[movie]|16:43 Grocible says, "iain: the Beeb had a nice little documentary about the team that built the probe that photographed Titan's surface, if that's of interest"
[lounge]|16:44 Emily arrives.
[lounge]|16:44 Olly says, "Hello, Emily."
[movie]|16:44 (from Iain) Grocible says, "Just beneath the surface, they found this huge lake of blood."
[food]|16:44 inky | Mainly from its stem, pineapple contains a proteolytic enzyme, bromelain, which breaks down protein. If having sufficient bromelain content, raw pineapple juice can thus be used as a marinade and tenderizer for meat. [..] The quantity of bromelain in the fruit is probably not significant, being mostly in the inedible stalk.
[movie]|16:44 Grocible says, "I enjoyed that show"
[movie]|16:44 Grocible says, "but then I am a space geek"
[food]|16:44 inky says, "so I guess I am mistaken about it being in the core of the pineapple"
[food]|16:44 inky says, "I thought you sliced it out because of that, but I guess you slice it out because it's chewy"
[lounge]|16:44 Emily says, "hi"
[lounge]|16:44 Grocible says, "em"
[food]|16:45 DavidW says, "I didn't try to eat the core. I just nibbled around it like a short ear of corn."
[movie]|16:46 Ryan says, "Late, but, yes, CitW is fairly gory, but it's not gore-porn like Saw or Hostel."
[food]|16:46 Olly says, "I've eaten the core before."
[food]|16:46 Olly says, "I don't think it made my tongue tingle particularly."
[movie]|16:46 Iain says (to Ryan), "Thanks!"
[food]|16:46 baf says, "It depends on how much you like making your tongue numb. If you like a numb tongue, you cut out the core because it's chewy. If you don't, you cut it out so you won't have a numb tongue."
[movie]|16:46 Ryan says, "It's a really intelligent movie, and you don't need to be a horror fan to enjoy it."
[movie]|16:47 Ryan says, "But if you're squeamish it's probably not a great choice."
[movie]|16:47 baf says, "Although I think having seen at least one cabin-in-the-woods-type horror movie before helps."
[movie]|16:47 baf says, "(Preferably Evil Dead 2.)"
[Limax's-private-life]|16:47 Limax says, "I'm doing it again..."
[Limax's-private-life]|16:47 inky asks, "doing what?"
[Limax's-private-life]|16:47 inky asks, "geocaching?"
[food]|16:47 Olly says, "I think the core in question was from a slightly over-ripe pineapple, though."
[Limax's-private-life]|16:47 Limax says, "I'm taling myself out of a job even before I apply for it"
[Limax's-private-life]|16:47 Limax says, "talking"
[movie]|16:48 Iain says, "Okay, that is all pretty useful info."
[Limax's-private-life]|16:48 inky says, "yeah, don't do that"
[Limax's-private-life]|16:48 inky says, "I mean, unless you don't *want* the job"
[Limax's-private-life]|16:48 inky says, "but if you're just worried abotu them turning you down, well, let them take care of that"
[Limax's-private-life]|16:48 Limax says, "Agreed"
[Limax's-private-life]|16:48 Limax says, "It's getting there first, though"
[movie]|16:48 Iain says, "Man, if I ever end up seeing this, I hope it's worth the effort of avoiding spoilers."
[movie]|16:49 Ryan says, "It was totally worth it."
[rpg]|16:49 inky says, "I'm working on a FATE/Apocalypse World mashup, and I came across somebody's writeup of a swashbuckler class for AW"
[rpg]|16:49 inky | SWASHBUCKLER SPECIAL
[rpg]|16:49 inky | If you and another character have sex, you're totally unsurprised.  I mean, look at you.
[Limax's-private-life]|16:49 Limax says, "No... geocahing got me in trouble last night"
[movie]|16:49 katre says, "you want spoilers for a date movie, so you know when to inch your arm close right before the scary bit"
[Limax's-private-life]|16:49 inky asks, "it did?"
[Limax's-private-life]|16:49 Limax says, "I was late picking up my daughter at the airport"
[movie]|16:49 Ryan says, "Sarah saw it a week and a half ago, and came home and told me I absolutely had to see it, so I avoided spoilers and saw it yesterday, and was really glad I did."
[Limax's-private-life]|16:49 Limax says, "Because I hadn't found my cache for the day"
[Limax's-private-life]|16:50 Limax says, "My current streak ended at 28 days... now I'm starting a new one"
[movie]|16:50 Iain says, "Or do the Penn & Teller trick of cutting a hole in the bottom of your shared popcorn tub."
[Limax's-private-life]|16:50 Limax says, "But I can see an obsession forming here"
[Limax's-private-life]|16:50 Limax says, "Ironicaly I was able to keep it going when I was in Disneyland the last few days"
[movie]|16:50 Iain says (to Matthew), "Cabin in the Woords"
[movie]|16:50 Matthew says, "Ah."
[Limax's-private-life]|16:51 inky asks, "hunh, there are caches in disneyland?"
[rpg]|16:51 Tale says, "ha ha"
[rpg]|16:51 (from Tale) Tale says, "I thought RPG was about playing someone you aren't in real life"
[rpg]|16:51 inky says, "uh, for people unfamiliar, I guess I should add that all classes have a special move that takes place when you have sex with another character"
[Limax's-private-life]|16:51 Limax says, "Virtual ones in the park... I found some outside"
[rpg]|16:51 Roger says, "Heh"
[Limax's-private-life]|16:52 Limax says, "Since I was driving stuff around, I spent a bit of time on the peremiter"
[Limax's-private-life]|16:52 inky asks, "hmm, how do virtual caches work?"
[Limax's-private-life]|16:52 Limax says, "Er  perimeter"
[rpg]|16:52 Iain asks (of inky), "Wait, what happens if a Swashbuckler has sex with a Battlebabe?"
[rpg]|16:52 katre asks, "does that come up often?"
[rpg]|16:52 Iain says, "And I'm not asking just because I have a Battlebabe character."
[Limax's-private-life]|16:52 Limax says, "You Usually have to answer questions, or gather clues to unlock a file"
[rpg]|16:52 Iain says (to katre), "Depends on the Swashbuckler, I guess."
[Limax's-private-life]|16:52 inky says, "interesting"
[rpg]|16:52 Tale asks, "So, sex between two swashbucklers in pretty unsurprising?"
[Limax's-private-life]|16:52 Limax says, "Then og what's in the file"
[rpg]|16:52 katre says, "the closest I have seen would be when we had the paladin french kiss the enchanted princess and then the GM rolled for breast size"
[rpg]|16:52 inky says, "hmm"
[rpg]|16:52 inky says, "ha ha"
[rpg]|16:52 inky says, "classic"
[rpg]|16:53 Roger says, "Critical Breasts"
[rpg]|16:53 inky says, "anyway, AW is a vincent baker game so he is into death and sex and stuff"
[rpg]|16:53 katre says, "(it worked, because he dislodged the magic sleep capsule in her mouth and made his saving throw to not swallow it himself)"
[rpg]|16:53 inky says, "wow, awesome"
[rpg]|16:53 Roger exclaims, "He's immune to poison anyway!"
[lounge]|16:53 DorianX says, "ggrr"
[lounge]|16:54 DorianX says, "jUST GOT A PUSHY SALES CALL"
[Limax's-private-life]|16:54 Limax says, "It was cool being backstage, though... although I think a bit more communictation would be in order next time"
[lounge]|16:54 DorianX says, "From the lifealert people"
[lounge]|16:54 (From vimes) DorianX says, "tHEY PUSHED MY CAPSLOCK KEY"
[rpg]|16:54 katre says, "later the princess totally backstabbed us and stole all the treasure"
[lounge]|16:54 inky says, "hooray"
[lounge]|16:55 DorianX says, "woke tje baby"
[rpg]|16:55 inky says, "man, princesses"
[rpg]|16:55 katre asks, "I know, right?"
[rpg]|16:55 vimes says, "no wonder people keep putting them in enchanted sleeps"
[rpg]|16:55 Tale says, "Can't live with them happily ever after, can't live without em happily ever after"
[lounge]|16:56 Olly says, "My cable company keeps trying to sell me a TV subscription despite the fact that I don't have a TV."
[lounge]|16:56 Emily says, "speaking of advertising that sucks, the other day I ran across a weight-loss ad that just said 'Your boyfriend is looking at skinnier women.'"
[rpg]|16:56 Limax says, "Man... I could so go on a tangent here...."
[lounge]|16:56 inky says, "dang"
[lounge]|16:56 Iain says, "Yow"
[lounge]|16:56 Emily says, "I pretty much want to find the advertising person that came up with that and punch him in the head"
[lounge]|16:56 inky says, "I thought ads were just supposed to *imply* that"
[lounge]|16:57 Emily says (to inky), "evidently this person didn't get the memo"
[lounge]|16:57 Limax says, "I don't look at skinnier women"
[lounge]|16:57 Hugo says, "Dude probably gets a bonus for every angry woman that clocks him one."
[lounge]|16:57 Iain says, "If your boyfriend was classy enough to be surreptitious about it, the ad wouldn't know."
[lounge]|16:57 Olly says, "Most boyfriends probably are, but they are probably looking at fatter women, too."
[lounge]|16:58 Johnny says, "Or men."
[lounge]|16:58 Roger says, "Your boyfriend is performing an inefficient outer join on the table WOMEN"
[lounge]|16:58 Johnny says, "I see men almost every day."
[lounge]|16:58 inky says (to Roger), "ha ha"
[lounge]|16:58 Emily says (to Olly), "assuming they navigate the world with their eyes open, yeah"
[lounge]|16:58 vimes says, "as long as it's not an inner join"
[lounge]|16:58 Allen says, "you want insulting body-type ads for women? how about:"
[lounge]|16:58 Allen | http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-f11znfbSor0/T0ToNgwKJ-I/AAAAAAAARQs/ICuvsLSxwAY/s1600/Levis.jpg
[lounge]|16:58 Iain asks, "Your boyfriend is looking at a snooker match. WHAT DOES IT MEAN?"
[lounge]|16:59 Emily says (to Allen), "ha ha ha sob"
[lounge]|16:59 Ryan says, "Your boyfriend is looking at '; DROP TABLE women; --"
[lounge]|16:59 two-star sought a woman and found a monkey. Well, it happens.
[lounge]|16:59 inky says (to Allen), "wow, dang"
[lounge]|16:59 Olly says (to Emily), "I meant "looking at" in the sense used in the ad."
[lounge]|16:59 Roger says, "Haha"
[lounge]|16:59 Iain says (to Allen), "Ha, yeah, I saw that one."
[lounge]|16:59 inky says (to Iain), "you know what they say, "first snookie, then nookie""
[lounge]|16:59 Olly says, "Hello, two-star."
[lounge]|16:59 two-star says, "Hi."
[lounge]|16:59 Johnny says, "Hey two-star"
[lounge]|16:59 vimes says, "your self-esteem just called me crying"
[lounge]|16:59 Grocible says, "on the tube there's this series of ads which say YOUR DREAM WOMAN IS SITTING UNDERNEATH THIS AD!"
[lounge]|17:00 Grocible says, "and also YOUR DREAM MAN IS SITTING UNDERNEATH THIS AD!"
[lounge]|17:00 Iain says, "Ooh, yeah, those."
[lounge]|17:00 vimes says (to Grocible), "i hope people carefully sit under the wrong gender of ad"
[lounge]|17:00 Iain says, "And you can never tell when you're sitting underneath one!"
[lounge]|17:00 inky asks, "what are they ads for?"
[lounge]|17:00 baf says, "Your boyfriend is looking at a skinnier woman. Wait, now he's looking at a less skinny woman. Now he's looking at a cat. Hm, the cat came over to rub against him and now he's pretty much paying attention to the cat exclusively."
[lounge]|17:00 Hugo says (to inky), "Mace."
[lounge]|17:00 vimes says (to inky), "chairs"
[lounge]|17:00 Iain says (to Hugo), "Ha!"
[lounge]|17:00 Roger says, "Look down look up it's that skinnier woman you wanted"
[lounge]|17:01 Grocible says, "I'm surprised that violent fights haven't broken out over those ads"
[lounge]|17:01 Iain says, "They should just sell funhouse mirror contacts so everybody looks skinny and everybody's happy."
[lounge]|17:01 Iain says, "Apart from all the extra car crashes and so on."
[lounge]|17:01 Roger asks, "Dream... or nightmare?  I think that's implied.  Implied... or implode?"
[lounge]|17:01 Olly asks (of Allen), "Is the Levi's ad a joke?"
[lounge]|17:02 Iain says, "I'm honestly wondering that."
[lounge]|17:03 zarf says, "Your boyfriend is looking at a skinnier woman. You are looking at the Old Spice guy. Now your boyfriend is looking at you. You are still looking at the Old Spice guy. Which of you is having a better time? You are, because you're 'looking at me."
[lounge]|17:03 Iain says, "Hee hee."
[lounge]|17:03 two-star says (to zarf), "Thank you, I was hoping somebody would work the old spice guy into it."
[zarfplan]|17:04 Limax asks (of zarf), "Oh.. hey.  Is there support for portrait mode in the works at least for the iPad?"
[lounge]|17:04 Iain says, "Returning to the original eagh-ad, it's impressive that they actually use the word 'skinnier'."
[zarfplan]|17:04 Limax says, "Er... landscape"
[zarfplan]|17:04 zarf asks, "hwich app?"
[lounge]|17:04 Iain says, "You'd think that might be maybe a little pejorative, and they'd go for 'slimmer' or something."
[zarfplan]|17:04 Limax says, "Dreamhold"
[lounge]|17:04 Iain says, "But no, skinny = good apparently still."
[zarfplan]|17:04 Limax says, "Sorry... I'm still quite tired"
[zarfplan]|17:04 zarf says, "hm"
[zarfplan]|17:05 zarf says, "I have written down on my to-do list 'think about landscape mode'"
[lounge]|17:05 inky says, "skinny is slightly pejorative"
[lounge]|17:05 Olly says, "There is that song about how it isn't good for women to have skinny legs."
[zarfplan]|17:05 zarf says, "but it wasn't above the 1.0 line until now"
[zarfplan]|17:05 Limax says, "I know for me, I'll probably sit down with my wifeless keyboard and play it, rather than texting on the screen"
[zarfplan]|17:05 Limax says, "Er.  wireless"
[zarfplan]|17:05 zarf says, "#typos yay"
[lounge]|17:05 inky says, "but I think there is maybe some implication that you are thinking about your boyfriend looking at some skinny bitch"
[lounge]|17:05 Emily says, "to be fair it was a somewhat amateurish web ad"
[lounge]|17:06 Emily says, "so it's possible they didn't work out the details very well"
[zarfplan]|17:06 Limax asks, "Has anyone else had an issue with the map in terms of spoilers?"
[zarfplan]|17:06 two-star says, "wifelike typing detected."
[lounge]|17:06 Iain says, "All dressing her with his eyes, and force-feeding her with chicken soup with his eyes."
[lounge]|17:06 Allen says, "ok, found another good ad:"
[lounge]|17:06 Allen | http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-7zm_oDUdLTM/TaN4fwIZQ1I/AAAAAAAANIc/jlEioC1fjMw/s1600/UsedCars.jpg
[zarfplan]|17:06 zarf says, "I haven't discussed it with anyone in detail. I've considered the qustion, of course"
[lounge]|17:06 Emily says (to Iain), "ha"
[lounge]|17:07 Emily says (to Allen), "good god"
[zarfplan]|17:07 Limax says, "It was the first thing I noticed... an outline of all the places that I will be visiting"
[lounge]|17:07 Iain says, "Wait what"
[lounge]|17:07 Iain says, "Oh I see"
[zarfplan]|17:07 zarf says, "I fear I was swayed by how pretty the shadow is"
[zarfplan]|17:07 Limax says, "I agree that the shadow is pretty... but I also feel that the shadow knows too much"
[lounge]|17:07 Olly says, "Beautiful women make people want to buy stuff."
[zarfplan]|17:08 zarf says, "hah"
[lounge]|17:08 Olly says, "That's the theory, anyway."
[lounge]|17:08 inky says, "man"
[lounge]|17:08 inky says, "although really the best thing about this ad is there is some guy named Dale Wurfel"
[lounge]|17:08 Iain says, "Ha ha"
[zarfplan]|17:09 zarf says, "I was considering adding shadow extensions to the doors that don't have 'em"
[lounge]|17:09 Roger says, "Who cares if she smokes and leaks oil"
[zarfplan]|17:09 Limax says, "I also know that shading as you map it would require too much overhead... or I would assume it does"
[lounge]|17:09 Iain says, "That's like an unfortunate roll on the Star Trek random name table."
[zarfplan]|17:09 zarf says, "perhaps that's a 'now you have two problems' approach"
[lounge]|17:09 inky says (to Roger), "ha ha"
[zarfplan]|17:09 Limax says, "Cold be"
[zarfplan]|17:09 zarf says, "yes, shading on the fly is a headache"
[zarfplan]|17:10 zarf says, "although, maybe not impossible. Hm"
[zarfplan]|17:10 Limax says, "I haven't gotten very far... I downloaded it when I got back to the hotel room Saturday night, and Sunday I was way too busy with students and driving home"
[zarfplan]|17:10 Limax says, "I played it a bit at breakfast before I took off"
[lounge]|17:11 Olly says, "Maybe the person in the photo is Dale Wurfel."
[lounge]|17:11 Emily says, "I have also already gotten annoyed today by a Proctor and Gamble ad about how behind every Olympic athlete there is a loving Mom, and P&G are proud to support Moms (cue flicker of various cleaning product logos)"
[lounge]|17:11 baf says, "Dale is sometimes a woman's name, it's true. Like Dale Evans."
[lounge]|17:11 * Marktwo has disconnected.
[lounge]|17:11 * Marktwo has connected.
[lounge]|17:11 Iain says, "You know you're not the first (to think Dale is a man's name)"
[lounge]|17:11 Limax says (to Emily), "Oy"
[lounge]|17:12 Emily says, "since obviously men never do housework, athletes are never raised in families without a mother, etc"
[lounge]|17:12 Limax asks, "So, Chip and Dale are married?"
[lounge]|17:12 Iain says, "Yep"
[lounge]|17:12 Olly asks, "Where is Strathroy?"
[pain]|17:13 Limax says, "I think when I get home tonight that I'm going to get in the hot tub and never leave"
[lounge]|17:13 inky says, "that sounds like it should be something along the lines of the henweigh joke"
[lounge]|17:13 Iain says, "Heh"
[lounge]|17:13 DavidW says, "(personally, I like to think of the Goofy Gophers as a gay couple)"
[lounge]|17:13 Limax says, "Heh"
[lounge]|17:13 Limax says (to DavidW), "I would agree with you"
[lounge]|17:14 Limax says, "I got in a discussion this weekend with a cast member about who Goofy's wife is"
[lounge]|17:14 Emily asks, "...Gallant?"
[lounge]|17:14 Grocible says, "oh the *tragedy* of the *loss* of the word gay!"
[firstworldproblems]|17:14 Gunther says, "damn, bathing in hot water for 20 minutes is exhausting"
[lounge]|17:14 Emily says, "oh wait no"
[firstworldproblems]|17:14 Iain says, "Wow, good one."
[lounge]|17:14 baf says, "Gally, maybe."
[firstworldproblems]|17:14 Gunther asks, "I know, right?"
[lounge]|17:15 Limax says, "And it was on the Alice in Wonderland ride, of all places"
[lounge]|17:15 Limax says, "Not that location really means anything"
[firstworldproblems]|17:15 Gunther says, "to add to the #fwpiness, it was a moor bath"
[lounge]|17:15 Grocible says, "Goofus and Gallant"
[firstworldproblems]|17:15 Iain says, "I actually find it hard to stay in a hot bath for less than an hour."
[lounge]|17:15 Grocible asks, "anyone else get given that magazine?"
[lounge]|17:15 baf asks, "Is 'Goofy' short for something?"
[lounge]|17:15 Grocible says, "Highlights? This American kids' magazine designed to install Christian moral values into the young"
[lounge]|17:16 Limax says (to Grocible), "I only read it in the dentist office"
[lounge]|17:16 baf says, "Well, clearly Emily has."
[lounge]|17:16 Olly says, "The used to have them in doctor's offices."
[firstworldproblems]|17:16 Johnny says (to Iain), "Well, you're too tired to get out."
[lounge]|17:16 Grocible says, "it was kind of old-skool Christian. Not mouthfoamingly fundamentalist like today"
[lounge]|17:16 Olly says, "My Jewish optometrist had lots of them."
[lounge]|17:17 Limax says, "I hated it because someone had already circled the hidden pictures"
[lounge]|17:17 baf says, "Yeah. Somehow they were ubiquitous there despite never being seen anywhere else."
[lounge]|17:17 Emily says, "at one point my parents bought us a big box of back issues at a garage sale"
[lounge]|17:17 Grocible says, "a family friend in America used to send us copies"
[lounge]|17:17 Emily says, "and the old ones were really really weird"
[lounge]|17:17 Grocible says, "I remember relatively little about them other than they were kind of boring"
[lounge]|17:17 baf says, "Anyway, Goofus and Gallant is enough of a cultural touchstone that I've seen it parodied online more than once."
[lounge]|17:17 Iain says, "I've heard of them but don't know much about them."
[lounge]|17:18 Limax says (to Emily), "The old ones are probably the ones I read as a kid"
[lounge]|17:18 DavidW says, "I don't know the magazine."
[lounge]|17:18 Emily says, "like there was a cartoon about a wooden puppet family called the Timbertoes, and in one of the old Timbertoes cartoons, some members of the family get their feet cut off, but it's okay because Pa is able to carve them new ones"
[lounge]|17:18 Grocible says, "all the boys wore crewcuts"
[lounge]|17:18 Iain says, "I assumed they were cartoon characters, not moral crusaders."
[lounge]|17:18 Grocible says, "em: hm. that sounds vaguely familiar"
[lounge]|17:18 Limax says, "Yes it does"
[lounge]|17:18 Emily says, "it is possible I have mentioned this before because it caused me shock and horror at the time"
[lounge]|17:18 Iain asks, "What's the lesson supposed to be there?"
[lounge]|17:18 Iain asks, "Don't bite your nails unless you're made of wood?"
[lounge]|17:18 Limax says, "You can always carve new feet"
[lounge]|17:19 Olly says, "If your original foot causes you to sin, cut it off and get a new one."
[lounge]|17:19 Limax says, "But the nails are made of metal, then"
[videogames]|17:19 Gunther | We don't usually do system specs posts, but Max Payne 3 wants *35GB* of hard drive space.
[lounge]|17:19 baf says (to Iain), "They are cartoon characters. But they're cartoon characters with a lesson for young children. The schtick is that Goofus and Gallant are shown in the same situations, but Goofus does the wrong thing and Gallant does the right thing."
[videogames]|17:19 Gunther says, "pssh, is that all"
[lounge]|17:20 Grocible says, "I think we used to get these things before we moved to California"
[lounge]|17:20 Emily says, "'Goofus eats the last donut and dribbles crumbs on his shirt. Gallant leaves the last donut for a little old blind lady.'"
[lounge]|17:20 Grocible says, "they had sort of line art drawings of boys in crewcuts, not actual cartoons"
[videogames]|17:20 Roger says, "Maybe they bundled in the movie as a bonus^wpunishment"
[lounge]|17:20 Grocible says, "at least when I remember them"
[lounge]|17:21 Limax says, "Yeah"
[lounge]|17:21 Iain asks (of Gallant), "Dude, how is she supposed to find it?"
[lounge]|17:21 Emily says, "sadly Goofus and Gallant aren't quite old enough to be shown in dating situations"
[lounge]|17:21 Iain asks, "You just left it lying there?"
[lounge]|17:21 baf says, "Goofus offers Fannee Doolee coffee. Gallant offers her tea, and refrains from teller her his name."
[lounge]|17:21 Emily says, "because that would've been excellent"
[lounge]|17:21 Johnny says (to Iain), "Echolocation."
[lounge]|17:21 Grocible says, "one of the problems of this sort of stuff is that it inevitably makes the good boy seem dull as shit, and the bad boy kinda fun"
[lounge]|17:22 Johnny says, "Goofus was an asshole."
[lounge]|17:22 Grocible says, "so I wonder how often it backfired"
[lounge]|17:22 Emily says (to Grocible), "well, dull, and also sort of priggishly smug, since he's always wearing this kind of "I am a good boy" smile"
[lounge]|17:22 Johnny says, "And his name is GOOFUS."
[lounge]|17:22 Limax says, "Okay... back to work"
[lounge]|17:22 Limax waves
[lounge]|17:22 Limax walks slowly out of the room and into the sunset.
[lounge]|17:23 baf says, "Goofus finds the total distance the fly traveled by summing a geometric series. Gallant realizes that he can multiply the fly's velocity by the total time before the trains meet."
[lounge]|17:23 Emily says, "'Goofus breaks off his relationship via text message. Gallant has a sensitive, courteous face-to-face conversation and tells his girlfriend it's not her.'"
[lounge]|17:23 inky says, "ha ha"
[lounge]|17:24 inky says, "although I was thinking of the other end of the timeline: "Gallant gives his teacher a list of possible Communist subversives in class. Goofus is a Red sympathizer""
[lounge]|17:24 two-star asks, "Gallant knows he isn't the first. But does he really care?"
[lounge]|17:24 Emily says (to inky), "also excellent"
[lounge]|17:24 Iain says, "Yay Goofus"
[lounge]|17:25 inky says, " http://images.huffingtonpost.com/2009-05-05-3267483674_9a7dcc3532.jpg "
[lounge]|17:25 olethros has ordered three mega-generators to be installed in his boathouse.
[lounge]|17:25 inky says, "it's like comparing apples and oranges!"
[lounge]|17:25 Iain says, "These aren't crewcuts!"
[lounge]|17:25 baf says, "Goofus walks on four legs, eats meat, and spills blood."
[wtf]|17:26 Allen | New Yorkers seek new Zionist high from Israeli gas mask bongs
[wtf]|17:26 Allen | Israeli model 4A1 gas masks on display in the East Village might not protect you from a chemical weapons attack. That's because their protective filters have been removed and replaced with foot-long acrylic bongs meant for smoking marijuana.
[wtf]|17:26 Gunther asks, "...this is news?"
[wtf]|17:27 Allen says, "I've never heard of it"
[wtf]|17:27 inky says, "Gunther just assumes everything in the east village is a bong"
[wtf]|17:27 baf exclaims, "And he's usually right!"
[wtf]|17:27 Gunther says, "well, either a bong, or a dildo, or both"
[wtf]|17:28 Olly says, "Ew."
[lounge]|17:28 Iain says, "Gallant carefully considers all sides of the argument. Goofus kills them all and lets Gunther sort them out."
[lounge]|17:28 Gunther asks, "Goofus unleashes the demons of hell upon Earth. Gallant... does not?"
[lounge]|17:29 inky says, "Gallant purges only the unrighteous"
[politics]|17:29 Allen | Edwards Lawyers to Follow Trail of 'Bunny Money'
[music]|17:31 Iain asks, "Hmm, are there good apps for extracting a score from existing music?"
[music]|17:31 Iain says, "Like if I wanted to transcribe a piano solo"
[music]|17:31 Iain says, "I should ask this in a parallel universe where dfan still hangs around here."
[music]|17:31 inky asks, "are you imagining something that automatically generates the score by analyzing the song?"
[music]|17:32 Iain says, "I am"
[music]|17:32 inky says, "that would be pretty cool"
[music]|17:32 Iain says, "I believe that is possible and there are expensive apps to do it."
[lounge]|17:32 Olly | http://dialbforblog.com/archives/476/
[music]|17:32 Allen asks, "oh from an mp3 or something?"
[music]|17:32 Iain says, "I'm wondering if there are now cheap apps that do it."
[music]|17:32 Iain says, "Yeah"
[music]|17:32 Allen says, "that would be useful"
[lounge]|17:32 Olly says, "Several Goofus and Gallant pages"
[music]|17:32 Iain says, "There's a pretty specific piano chord voicing I'm curious about."
[music]|17:33 inky says, "it doesn't actually seem that hard to do, although I'm sure I am not thinking of some complexity"
[music]|17:33 Iain says, "Not for piano music, certainly."
[music]|17:33 Iain says, "Seems like the main trickiness is if it isn't quite in tune."
[music]|17:33 Iain says, "Maybe the overtones get mixed up too"
[lounge]|17:34 Olly says, "Apparently divergent thinking is bad: http://dialbforblog.com/archives/476/goofus_gallant2.html "
[lounge]|17:34 baf says, "Goofus can cast Cause Light Wounds and rebuke or command undead. Gallant can cast Cure Light Wounds and turn or destroy undead."
[lounge]|17:34 Grocible says, "hm"
[music]|17:34 Iain says, "( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADPgTmca6Zs , 50 seconds in)"
[lounge]|17:34 inky says (to Olly), "let's stick to the rules!"
[D&D]|17:34 Jon says, "I never really understood why 'rebuke undead' was evil but 'turn undead' was good."
[lounge]|17:34 Grocible says, "those drawings don't look like I remember them"
[D&D]|17:34 Jon says, "they seem like synonyms"
[lounge]|17:34 Grocible says, "presumably they changed over time"
[D&D]|17:35 Matthew says, "'Rebuking, I mentally digested all of what you the reader are about to find out heartbreakingly.'"
[D&D]|17:35 Matthew says, "Hmm."
[lounge]|17:35 Johnny says, "Goofus looks pissed."
[lounge]|17:35 inky says, "the one I mentioned earlier is the style I remembered"
[D&D]|17:35 Tale asks, "What do you turn into when you turn undead and why is it good?"
[lounge]|17:35 Johnny says, "Both meanings."
[D&D]|17:35 Matthew says (to Tale), "You basically make them go the other way."
[D&D]|17:35 Matthew says (to Tale), "You turn them around, pretty much."
[D&D]|17:35 inky | Evil clerics channel negative energy to rebuke (awe) or command (control) undead
[D&D]|17:35 Gunther asks (of Matthew), "wait, was that a Lyttle Lytton sentence?"
[D&D]|17:36 Matthew says (to Gunther), "An adapted one, yes."
[D&D]|17:36 inky says, "so I guess with rebuke, you're like "dude, you're slacking off" and they say 'sorry, boss""
[D&D]|17:36 Jon says, "huh."
[D&D]|17:37 lpsmith | Gallant channels positive energy to make undead realize how bad they've been.
[D&D]|17:37 Roger says, "No it is MY evil milkshakes that bring all the ghouls to the yard"
[D&D]|17:37 Tale says (to inky), "I was imaging fingergunning and "You're alright with me, evil cleric""
[lounge]|17:37 Grocible says, "of course, I'm currently listening to test card music"
[D&D]|17:37 Jon says, "I guess I was confused because KJV uses 'rebuke' sometimes when talking about Jesus or his disciples interacting with demons."
[lounge]|17:37 Gunther says, "Goofus atomic-wedgies Gallant. Gallant cries."
[music]|17:37 Allen says, "oh, Peter Wagner just uploaded a new piece"
[music]|17:37 Allen | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9XygGZ-dFg
[sf]|17:37 Jon says, "worldbuilding is hard. Even though I doubt this will come up in the story, I'm having to come up with an explanation for where the blacksmith in this story gets his ore."
[sf]|17:38 inky asks, "from a mine?"
[sf]|17:38 Matthew asks, "An asteroid?"
[sf]|17:38 Jon says, "Because, see, the 'world' is actually a space station, therefore there can't be a mine."
[craft]|17:38 Emily asks, "speaking of Goofus' behavior -- is there any sort of boardgame-meet tradition of a party where people bring crap board games that aren't fun and then the party makes up a new ruleset for the pieces?"
[sf]|17:38 Matthew says, "He could import it."
[sf]|17:38 Gunther says, "from the ore merchant"
[D&D]|17:38 baf says, "At the very least, Turning is a matter of making the undead understand that your god hates them and is more powerful than them and that they should run away now, while Rebuking is a matter of making them realize that your god is on their side and that attacking that god's servants would be counterproductive."
[sf]|17:38 (from lpsmith) Jon says (to inky), "Brilliant!  You're name is going in the credits!"
[craft]|17:38 inky says, "that sounds fun"
[sf]|17:38 Jon says (to Gunther), "yeah, I went with 'they trade with dwarves for it'"
[music]|17:38 Allen says, "Forqueray is tough tough tough music"
[craft]|17:38 Emily says, "my sister has this really dull annoying game about being a barista but it has fancy parts"
[craft]|17:38 Iain says, "Huh, it does"
[sf]|17:38 Matthew asks, "Dwarves on the space station?"
[music]|17:39 Gunther asks, "is that pronounced 'fuckery'?"
[sf]|17:39 Jon says, "they don't know they're on a space station"
[D&D]|17:39 baf says, "But yeah, this is terms of art, not common usage."
[craft]|17:39 Emily says, "so we were trying to figure out if there is a way to subvert this into something cool"
[music]|17:39 Gunther says, "because if so I'm sure it's a prank"
[sf]|17:39 Matthew asks, "So they're dumb dwarves?"
[music]|17:39 Allen says, "approximately, I guess"
[sf]|17:39 Jon says, "it's one of those 'people on a generation ship forget they're in a space ship' deals, except they were deliberately made to forget"
[craft]|17:39 Iain asks, "What are the parts?"
[craft]|17:39 Grocible says, "only if the new rules involve inudity"
[craft]|17:39 inky says, "combine with operation, and you get a bikini coffee shop"
[tangent]|17:39 Gunther says, "#music loving this so far: http://www.petapixel.com/2012/04/23/instagrambient-music-project-draws-inspiration-from-instagram-photos/ "
[sf]|17:39 Jon says, "the dwarves are actually representatives of the station owners, who are in on the con."
[craft]|17:39 Grocible says, "what inky says"
[sf]|17:39 Matthew says, "You should call it Ore Get Me Not."
[sf]|17:39 Gunther says (to RobertaWilliams), "NO"
[craft]|17:40 Iain says, "Maybe the meta-game is that everybody has to bring a dull game (or interesting parts) and you have to use them all."
[craft]|17:40 Johnny asks (of Groc), "How is iNudity different from nudity?"
[craft]|17:40 Iain says, "(Not body parts)"
[craft]|17:40 Emily says (to Iain), "there are custom dice, cards representing different drink features, and a cup to throw the dice in, and a little custom velveteen bag for the dice"
[sf]|17:40 Jon says, "it's like the Truman Show, except the entire village is the unknowing star of this reality show."
[sf]|17:40 Matthew asks, "Who's playing Laura Linney?"
[craft]|17:40 Iain says, "Huh, not bad"
[sf]|17:41 baf says, "Maybe the metal is generated by nuclear synthesis. You need elements that have more or less the right atomic number."
[craft]|17:41 Emily says, "okay, clearly we need to throw this party"
[craft]|17:41 Iain says, "Sounds like the basis of a drinking game for teetotallers"
[sf]|17:41 baf says, "So the 'ore' is whatever organic compounds have components that can be turned to metal."
[craft]|17:41 Emily says, "ha"
[sf]|17:42 Jon says, "this is basically a Doctor Who fanfic. medieval village on a space station who don't know they're on a space station? The Doctor is all over that."
[lounge]|17:42 Hugo goes home.
[lounge]|17:42 * Hugo has disconnected.
[sf]|17:42 baf says, "This is woefully inefficient, due to the vast amounts of energy required, but what are you going to do? You don't have a mine."
[lounge]|17:42 Tale is fired from breathing.
[lounge]|17:42 * Tale has disconnected.
[sf]|17:42 Roger says, "The ore might be barfing out reclaimed materials from human waste and/or corpses"
[sf]|17:43 Jon says, "(Likewise, I'm unsure about there being a tannery. Because, yeah, they need leather, but a medieval tannery is not something people want to see.)"
[sf]|17:43 Roger says, "Or smell"
[sf]|17:43 Gunther says, "you can use lasers to tan"
[sf]|17:43 Jon says, "A medieval village doesn't have lasers!"
[sf]|17:43 vimes says, "seriously, it's the Future, you can use lasers to ANYTHING."
[sf]|17:44 Jon says, "(I typed #fantasy but ended up on #sf due to LIES.)"
[sf]|17:44 Roger says, "All non-human animals are pretty suspect here"
[sf]|17:44 baf says, "Alternately, the mine could just be a very old trash dump, from centuries ago when people thought the trip was going to be shorter and freely threw away foil packaging."
[sf]|17:44 inky asks, "two legs good, four legs bad?"
[sf]|17:44 Jon asks (of baf), "on a space station?"
[sf]|17:46 baf says, "OK, perhaps it was a recycling unit, but it broke a long time ago, and people just kept throwing metal-containing waste into it anyway because they were already starting to forget stuff."
[lounge]|17:46 Grocible asks, "does anyone wanna keep dustspotting these photos for me?"
[lounge]|17:46 Grocible says, "my head is melting"
[lounge]|17:46 Grocible says, "I've been doing this for fucking hours"
[sf]|17:46 Roger says, "Soylent Green is made from GARBAGE"
[lounge]|17:46 Olly asks, "Dustspotting?"
[sf]|17:46 Gunther asks (of Jon), "yes, but they have no idea what 'medieval' really is, so why not have lasers?"
[lounge]|17:46 Grocible says, "painting out dust spots in Photoshop"
[sf]|17:47 Jon says, "it's a reality show; the viewers probably do. (though I guess that since this is in the future, maybe the viewers are equally clueless)"
[food]|17:48 zarf says, "rice! it's yummy!"
[peeves]|17:48 Jon says, "when I try to concisely explain a concept, explaining only the most important things first, and then when I keep having to explain some of the less important stuff to explain why some suggestion won't work. The worst part is that sometimes the suggestions are better than what I had in mind, but I'm in the habit of saying 'no, because FOO'"
[lounge]|17:48 Olly says, "Sorry, I don't want to help."
[lounge]|17:49 Grocible says, "at least you're honest about it"
[sf]|17:49 Jon says, "honestly this all came from the kernel of 'there is a witch, in the forest, on the space station. the villagers are going to burn her.'"
[sf]|17:49 baf says, "Eventually they started to run out of stuff, of course, because the station wasn't recycling it any more, so they started manually reusing and repairing more, and consequently forgot the idea of throwing waste into the recycling chutes because they didn't really have waste. So when a later generation discovered the 'mine', they had no idea why there where it came from."
[lounge]|17:50 Recchi asks, "For hours? Where were these photos taken, the middle of the crab nebula?"
[lounge]|17:50 Recchi says, "I am outraged on your behalf"
[sf]|17:50 Roger says, "That sounds more like Lexx fanfic"
[sf]|17:50 Jon says, "I know nothing about Lexx except there is a device that destroys the universe or something."
[sf]|17:51 Gunther says, "it is the worst sf series ever made"
[sf]|17:51 DorianX says, "Meh"
[sf]|17:51 DorianX says, "There are WAY worse"
[sf]|17:51 zarf says, "that, and the music episode was pretty awesome."
[sf]|17:51 DorianX says, "That too"
[sf]|17:52 Jon asks (of Gunther), "worse than The Starlost?"
[sf]|17:52 DorianX says, "Lexx may be the most *intentionally* awful"
[sf]|17:52 zarf says, "I need to go back and watch the first season / pilot / whatever oyu call it"
[sf]|17:52 inky says, "lexx is a sf series about an alternate universe where everyone uses rexx"
[lounge]|17:52 Grocible says, "they're mostly macro shots of photographic products"
[lounge]|17:52 Grocible says, "taken in a retail shop"
[lounge]|17:52 Grocible says, "so they were customer-handled products"
[sf]|17:52 DorianX says (to jon), "It is not worse than starlost"
[lounge]|17:53 borowski is a dog which has met his main sandwich.
[sf]|17:53 DorianX says, "It is basically what you would expect to happen if Cinemax made a sci fi series"
[sf]|17:53 zarf says, "really, Lexx is intentionally so far over the top you can walk your pet diplodocus under it, but it's not intentionally awful."
[sf]|17:53 zarf says, "at least at first."
[sf]|17:53 DorianX says, "Only it was Showtime"
[lounge]|17:53 Grocible says, "I'm not outraged. Just exhausted"
[lounge]|17:53 Lucea is gonna get back baby bad balls to you, love, cretin.
[lounge]|17:53 * Lucea has disconnected.
[sf]|17:53 zarf says, "later it got weak"
[sf]|17:54 DorianX says, "Yeah. The last season was really dull and lame"
[sf]|17:54 DorianX says, "except for the singing"
[news]|17:54 Allen | Saved From the Dinner Table: Activists Rescue More Than 500 Caged Dogs Destined for Restaurants in China
[news]|17:54 Allen says, "another blow for Obama!"
[sf]|17:56 DorianX says, "the last season really felt like someone said "THis is great. BUt the problem is all the things that are different from eveyr other cheaply made cliche sci fi show.""
[lounge]|17:56 Olly | Goofus eats his own young.
[news]|17:56 inky says, "ha ha"
[lounge]|17:56 Iain says, "Gallant allows himself to be eaten"
[lounge]|17:56 Johnny | Gallant eats the young of others.
[news]|17:56 Matthew says, "Ha ha ha ha."
[lounge]|17:57 Olly | Gallant takes care to reproduce successfully every 24 days.
[lounge]|17:57 Johnny asks (of Olly), "Where are these coming from?"
[lounge]|17:57 Olly | http://tinyurl.com/6ral3da
[lounge]|17:58 Johnny says, "wow"
[videogames]|17:59 DorianX says, "Heavy Rain LP (no spoilers)"
[videogames]|17:59 DorianX says, "I love that the player snarks the child actors by adding captions in french"
[apropos-of-nothing]|17:59 Gunther says, " http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/11/119607/2161974-2152382_no_you_re_not_the_only_one_who._lold_not_mine_cc16ca_3200577_super_super.jpg "
[lounge]|18:00 Olly takes a plastic hamster ball from their pocket, steps into it, and rolls away.
[lounge]|18:01 baf says, "Goofus shoots Seeds, and makes new Life to poison the Earth with a plague of men, as once it was. Gallant shoots Death and purifies the Earth of the filth of Brutals."
[lounge]|18:01 Gunther says, "seeds, eh"
[lounge]|18:01 borowski is a science, not simply a screensaver!
[lounge]|18:02 baf says, "Goofus is simply a screensaver."
[lounge]|18:02 Johnny says, "Hi borowski"
[lounge]|18:03 borowski says, "Hi Johnny, every body"
[music]|18:03 Iain says, "Belatedly -- http://www.seventhstring.com/xscribe/overview.html "
[lounge]|18:03 baf exclaims, "Goofus is a number. Gallant is a free man!"
[music]|18:03 Iain | The spectrum analysis feature is very useful for working out those hard-to-hear chords, but you must still use your ear and brain to decide which of the peaks in the spectrum are notes being played, which are merely harmonics, and which are just the result of noise and broad-spectrum instruments such as drums.
[lounge]|18:04 borowski says, "I didn't realize the deeper implications of Goofus and Gallant."
[lounge]|18:04 borowski says, "I used to read that in Highlights when I was a kid."
[lounge]|18:05 zarf walks off through the wall; rich crimson light flares briefly around him.
[lounge]|18:06 Olly arrives in a puff of yellow smoke, which makes them cough.
[lounge]|18:06 Olly says, "It's ouroboroski."
[lounge]|18:06 borowski says, "It's an Olly"
[lounge]|18:07 Johnny says, "Hey Olly"
[lounge]|18:07 Yuri goes home.
[music]|18:09 Iain says, "Wow, this app does a much better job than the docs suggest."
[music]|18:10 Gunther asks, "does it remove all traces of Lars Ulrich?"
[lounge]|18:10 Olly says, "Nobody likes a snore looser."
[lounge]|18:11 borowski asks, "Somebody that snores when they lose?"
[lounge]|18:11 Olly says, "Someone who lets loose with snores."
[lounge]|18:15 Recchi goes home.
[lounge]|18:15 * Recchi has disconnected.
[gameofthrones]|18:16 Gunther says, "#skyrim http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17k0a4a2hvzw9jpg/original.jpg "
[lounge]|18:18 Roger goes home.
[lounge]|18:18 * Roger has disconnected.
[lounge]|18:18 Gunther was like watching the world's most boring car crash, and then someone with a monotone voice overanalyzing it.
[jobs]|18:33 Dave says, "looks like I need to speed up my job search"
[jobs]|18:33 Dave says, "the client is waffling on my end date"
[jobs]|18:34 Dave says, "and it looks like they're focusing on documentation and build process stuff, which is a clear indication they have no more work lined up for me"
[jobs]|18:34 Dave says, "there's plenty of work in Chicago...I should land okay...and I'm NET-30 so I'm ahead on cash-flow"
[lounge]|18:36 Olly says, "I need to go rest."
[lounge]|18:36 Olly says, "Bye, everyone."
[lounge]|18:36 Olly takes a plastic hamster ball from their pocket, steps into it, and rolls away.
[jobs]|18:38 inky asks, "what is NET-30?"
[workplace]|18:44 inky says, "I can't decide if this person is missing the point or not: http://trenchescomic.com/tales/post/propaganda-and-barbie "
[jobs]|18:46 vimes says, "it's a tennis score, like LOVE-15"
[jobs]|18:46 Jon says (to inky), "well, in product-based business it means the customer has 30 days from invoice date to pay you"
[jobs]|18:46 Jon says, "I presume it's the same in software contracting"
[jobs]|18:46 inky says, "oh yeah"
[jobs]|18:46 Jon says, "which means even if this is his last day, he still has one more paycheck coming in"
[jobs]|18:47 inky says, "that makes sense"
[jobs]|18:47 Jon says, "Now, .NET-30 is something entirely different"
[lounge]|18:51 baf says, "Hm. Catching up on Adam's calendar, reading about pineapplegate."
[lounge]|18:51 baf says, "My reaction was that the Hare's words were the wisest."
[lounge]|18:51 Jota arrives from the east.
[lounge]|18:51 Jota greets.
[lounge]|18:51 borowski asks, "I vaguely remember that.  Did it involve overly expensive?"
[lounge]|18:52 two-star took 30,500 buckets -- why?
[lounge]|18:52 vimes says, "jota: the man, the myth, the legend"
[lounge]|18:52 borowski says, "+pineapples"
[lounge]|18:53 Jon asks, "jota doesn't have sleeves?"
[lounge]|18:53 Fang says, "I didn't even register that Hare was an option"
[lounge]|18:54 baf says, "in that the owl's words take figurative speech literally, which doesn't seem very wise to me, whereas the Hare accurately assesses the whole situation."
[lounge]|18:54 baf says, "The Hare is in the list of choices for that question."
[lounge]|18:55 Fang says, "yeah, now I see"
[lounge]|18:55 borowski says, "Oh that, pineapple thing.  I didn't realize it had reached 'gate' status."
[lounge]|18:56 Fang says, "I guess the Hare does, however, make some untrue statements"
[lounge]|18:56 vimes says, "Wisdom speaks lies so others hear truth."
[lounge]|18:56 Fang says, "namely 'this must be some sort of joke'"
[lounge]|18:56 Fang says, "whereas everything the owl says is true"
[lounge]|18:57 Fang says, "also, the hare ran 26 miles for no reason"
[quotations]|18:58 borowski | As Judge Judy famously said, "Don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining."
[lounge]|18:59 Ellison has appeared in three Bigfoot/Abominable Snowman-themed movies: Bigfoot: The Unforgettable Encounter, Little Bigfoot and Abominable.
[lounge]|19:00 Fang says, "when I read boingboing, I was surprised at the commenters objecting that the animals ate the pineapple because they were annoyed"
[lounge]|19:00 Fang says, "instead of merely hungry"
[lounge]|19:00 vimes says, "or pragmatic - that pineapple had tricked them before"
[lounge]|19:01 Fang says, "well, it seems like a fundamental failure to understand huma... er animal emotions"
[lounge]|19:05 borowski asks, "It also incorrectly teaches children that owls eat pineapples.  How can we expect them to compete in a global economy with that sort of thing filling up their brain?"
[lounge]|19:06 baf says, "The hare running 26 miles is irrelevant: the question asks about the animals' words, not their actions."
[lounge]|19:07 inky says, "if the hare was really right he should have got someone to bet on it"
[lounge]|19:07 inky says, "Adam had some commentary on the hungry vs angry thing"
[lounge]|19:07 Emily goes home.
[lounge]|19:07 * Emily has disconnected.
[lounge]|19:08 borowski asks, "Hmmm. Did the owl bet on the race?"
[lounge]|19:08 inky says, " http://adamcadre.livejournal.com/175046.html#comments "
[lounge]|19:08 borowski says, "I wonder what the odds in Vegas were."
[lounge]|19:10 baf says, "There's no mention of betting in the passage. Just animals not wanting to look like fools because they rooted for the wrong one."
[lounge]|19:14 borowski says, "It wasn't mentioned in the story, but forest critters are notorious for their gambling habits. At least in my imagination."
[lounge]|19:14 borowski says, "I imagine the owl nervously smoking a cigar while we bets his money for nest-rent."
[lounge]|19:16 borowski says, "s/we/he"
[lounge]|19:24 Pinstripe trips his way inside.
[lounge]|19:24 Pinstripe exclaims, "Hey guys!"
[comics]|19:25 K-Y says, "the problems with comics, #253"
[comics]|19:25 K-Y | "If there's one thing my adult pro self wanted out of DC COMICS-THE NEW 52, it was a return to the days of Infinite Earths. And it starts here."
[lounge]|19:25 Fang says, "Hi Pinns"
[lounge]|19:25 Pinstripe says, "Hey, Fang."
[lounge]|19:26 Iain leaps astride a mountain pony and gallops off bareback for reinforcements.
[lounge]|19:26 * Iain has disconnected.
[music]|19:26 * Pinstripe has joined the channel.
[lounge]|19:27 genericgeekgirl says, "hi Pinstripe"
[lounge]|19:28 Pinstripe exclaims, "Hello, ggg!"
[nameless]|19:31 * Pinstripe has joined the channel.
[music]|19:31 Fang says, "grfg"
[nameless]|19:31 Pinstripe says, "New Cadre game! Woohoo! Never thought I'd see that."
[craft]|19:32 * Pinstripe has joined the channel.
[lounge]|19:39 Fang says, "gtg"
[lounge]|19:41 Johnny says (to Fang), "c u l8r"
[tangent]|19:45 Jota says, "I wonder if we could trick people into believing that 'to culate' means to depart temporarily."
[tangent]|19:45 inky says, "heh"
[tangent]|19:46 Jota says, "And thus, saying 'cul8r' to someone is simply accusing them of being someone who's doing so."
[lounge]|19:46 borowski is a dog which has met his main sandwich.
[tangent]|19:47 K-Y says, "culating sounds like an awkward skin condition"
[lounge]|19:48 borowski is a science, not simply a screensaver!
[lounge]|19:49 Firion eat beans. Beans taste good. Num num num. Why violence in streets?
[lounge]|19:57 Fang is told of the death of Christ, and becomes so angry that the brain bursts from his head, and he dies. The blood from the wound baptises him as a Christian, and his soul goes to heaven.
[lounge]|19:58 Allen says, "almost-wreck on drive home, on home street"
[lounge]|19:58 Allen says, "car pulled off to side of the road. Then, when I was passing them, suddenly pulled out and made a U-turn"
[lounge]|19:58 Allen says, "'screeeech'"
[lounge]|19:59 borowski exclaims, "eek!"
[lounge]|19:59 inky says, "man"
[band-name]|19:59 borowski says, "Yesterday's Jam"
[blokes]|20:01 inky | was trying to break up with her gently when I saw a tow truck hooking up to my car outside her apartment, so I bolted mid-let down saying "you're too crazy!" over my shoulder as I ran.
[lounge]|20:04 Pinstripe says, "god, that's terrifying"
[blokes]|20:05 Ellison says, "ha ha, man"
[lounge]|20:08 Allen says, "just ordinary dallas traffic"
[politics]|20:09 Allen | Oversight Committee ranking member Elijah Cummings (D-Md.) said that the Secret Service scandal has raised concerns about whether enemies of the state might try to attack President Obama in the near future.
[politics]|20:09 Allen says, "with ... prostitutes"
[politics]|20:10 inky says, "I'm pretty confused about the whole scandal"
[politics]|20:10 inky says, "like is this a moral panic or a security panic or what"
[politics]|20:11 borowski says, "It sounds like it's a moral thing."
[politics]|20:11 Allen | Maloney and Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine), the ranking member on the Homeland Security Committee, called for the Secret Service to recruit more women. "I can't help but wonder if there'd been more women as part of that detail if this ever would have happened," Collins said on ABC.
[politics]|20:11 Allen | "I can't help but keep asking this question: Where are the women?" she said.
[politics]|20:11 inky says, "well, that doesn't seem like a crazy assertion"
[politics]|20:11 inky says, "ha ha"
[politics]|20:13 Allen says, "it's spreading out to the military too. Man, when a soldier can't go a-whoring without making the national news"
[politics]|20:13 Allen | The  military service members now under investigation for their activities in Colombia include  seven Army soldiers, two Marines, two Navy sailors and an Air Force airman.
[videogames]|20:14 K-Y | Even if people decide not to scalp their enemies, they&#8217;re going to be aware it&#8217;s there. &#8220;Once it&#8217;s in the game it&#8217;s polluted, and then there&#8217;s this distasteful element to it. We found out that most of the scalping was done alive, so if you imagine&#8230; once you get into, and we try our level best to be true to history&#8230; people who survive scalping&#8230; you see that and you go&#8230;&#8221; Hutchinson made a face of disgust.
[videogames]|20:14 K-Y says, "argh quotes"
[videogames]|20:17 K-Y says, "*and* ellipses"
[lounge]|20:17 Jota turns into a slimy toad!
[lounge]|20:20 Lucea had the olive complexion.
[lounge]|20:20 Johnny says, "Hi Lucea"
[programming]|20:24 borowski says (to Johnny), "What was the name of that cross platform language you mentioned the other night? I think it was based on haxe."
[videogames]|20:24 Jon says, "hah: http://i.imgur.com/w6Ixd.png "
[videogames]|20:24 Jon says, "(Mass Effect 3 related)"
[programming]|20:24 borowski says, "Oh I found it. haxenme."
[programming]|20:24 Johnny says (to borowski), "No, it's Haxe."
[videogames]|20:25 inky says, "hmm"
[programming]|20:25 Johnny says, "NME just makes it easier to build cross-platform programs."
[videogames]|20:25 inky asks, "so basically they're saying ME3's quests got a lot simpler?"
[videogames]|20:25 Jon says, "yeah. it's especially funny when you take it alongside a quote from the lead game designer which promised ME3 had very few fetch quests"
[programming]|20:25 borowski says, "Ah."
[drwho]|20:26 Jon says, "kind of want: http://www.etsy.com/listing/76550639/doctor-who-poster-the-time-of-angels "
[programming]|20:27 Johnny says, "For example, 'nme setup windows' installed Visual Studio Express 2010."
[news]|20:27 Allen | Anders Behring Breivik, who killed 77 people last July, said on Monday he wanted to apologise for killing "innocent" people in hisOslo bombing. He also insisted that not only his victims and their families had their lives ruined on July 22: "I also lost everything," he lamented to the court.
[news]|20:28 Allen | When prosecutor Enga Bejer Engh asked if he wanted to say the same to any of the 69 people -- mainly teens -- he slaughtered in his shooting massacre on the nearby island of Utoeya after the bombing, Breivik said: "No, I do not."
[programming]|20:28 Johnny says, "You can also use nme instead of calling haxe directly, but I've barely played with some of he sample programs."
[programming]|20:28 Johnny says, "+t"
[news]|20:28 Allen | He stressed the shooting spree had been a "gruesome" experience for him as well, and that he had to force himself to carry it out since it felt so "against human nature." It was almost like "being asked to eat a plate of excrement," he said.
[videogames]|20:31 K-Y says, "I was going to make a joke about assembly"
[videogames]|20:31 K-Y says, "then I realized that, wait, it normally has ass in it"
[videogames]|20:31 K-Y says, "it's just spelled wrong here"
[blokes]|20:36 * borowski has joined the channel.
[beer]|20:37 K-Y says, " http://uberbeergeek.com/bih/coldbox.htm "
[beer]|20:38 K-Y says, "for some reason I imagine the abrupt ending as being like Cask of Amontilado"
[food]|20:39 Allen | NAAN-BURGER.jpg
[food]|20:40 Allen says, "oops"
[food]|20:40 Allen says, "this is in Dallas:"
[food]|20:40 Allen | So there's this burger. A burger that lives inside a sushi restaurant. Its creator claims its fame to every customer who will listen. The claim is that it's the best in town.
[food]|20:41 Allen | ny burger whose reputation precedes it this hard deserves some attention. In cases like this, there's always a slim chance of epicness, and I'm an optimist. So I decided to try this burger. ... Three of us ordered the "cheeseburger." Our fourth ordered a couple of sushi-restaurant-appropriate items, as to not draw suspicion.
[food]|20:42 Allen says, "diagram: http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/cityofate/NAAN_burger_physiology2.jpg "
[lounge]|20:42 boucher? C'est pas vrai! [French expletive]!
[food]|20:42 boucher says, "Huh, I just learned the etymology of 'tempura'"
[food]|20:42 Allen | ay you don't like tomatoes. Too fucking bad. The cheeseburger comes the way it comes,
[food]|20:45 boucher says, "They got it from the Portuguese missionaries who visited in the 16th century, who would eat battered and fried vegetables during their meat fasts on the Ember Days, referred to in Latin as the quattuor tempora"
[food]|20:46 Allen says (to boucher), "nice"
[lounge]|20:46 Olly arrives in a puff of yellow smoke, which makes them cough.
[food]|20:46 Allen says, "the only way to make it more awesome would be that "ember" refers to the smoking embers left over from burning heretics"
[lounge]|20:46 Olly says, "re"
[lounge]|20:47 borowski says, "reolly"
[ollyprattle]|20:47 Olly says, "Today I got a membership invitation from the AARP."
[ollyprattle]|20:47 borowski exclaims, "Yay!"
[food]|20:47 boucher says, "Sadly, no:"
[food]|20:47 boucher | The English name for these days, "Ember", derives from the Anglo-Saxon ymbren, a circuit or revolution (from ymb, around, and ryne, a course, running), clearly relating to the annual cycle of the year. The occurrence of the Anglo-Saxon compounds ymbren-tid ("Embertide"), ymbren-wucan ("Ember weeks"), ymbren-fisstan ("Ember fasts"), ymbren-dagas ("Ember days") makes this etymology quite certain.
[ollyprattle]|20:48 Olly says, "I'm having trouble finding it quite as amusing as it seems I should."
[lounge]|20:49 inky says, "ok zip"
[lounge]|20:49 inky isn't nearly as awesome as a time-lost cowboy trained by aliens to raise a ruckus on Earth should be.
[ollyprattle]|20:49 borowski says, "You get a free doughnut at Dunkin' Donuts."
[ollyprattle]|20:50 Olly says, "I don't think they would actually let me join.  The sign-up form does ask for my date of birth."
[ollyprattle]|20:51 borowski says, "If they don't let you join, claim age discrimination."
[ollyprattle]|20:51 boucher says, "Join the AARP, NRA, and NAACP.  Then you can be old, black, and let everyone know you have a gun to back up your claims."
[ollyprattle]|20:52 Olly says, "You probably don't have to be black to join the NAACP."
[ollyprattle]|20:53 boucher says, "Well, yes...and you don't need a gun to join the NRA either, I suppose."
[ollyprattle]|20:53 Olly says, "Probably not."
[ollyprattle]|20:53 Olly says, "I don't think it would be a good idea for me to own a gun."
[ollyprattle]|20:53 boucher says, "Though there was a Simpsons gag, IIRC, to that effect."
[ollyprattle]|20:54 boucher says, "No...I agree...we removed all the guns from our house when my father was having his delusions, and I'm just as happy for myself, given my moods."
[ollyprattle]|20:54 Olly nods.
[ollyprattle]|20:55 boucher says, "Though when I was in Boy Scouts, I turned out to be a pretty natural marksman."
[ollyprattle]|20:55 Olly says, "Nifty."
[ollyprattle]|20:56 Olly says, "The things you don't want to be doing with the guns don't require much marksmanship, I believe."
[ollyprattle]|20:56 borowski says, "Yeah, I learned in Boy Scouts that aiming a bow and arrow is a lot harder than a gun."
[lounge]|20:56 Hugo attempted to enter the lounge in triumph towed by an elephant. As it happened, it would not fit through the gate and some hasty re-planning was needed, much to the embarassment of Hugo and amusement of those present.
[lounge]|20:57 Olly says, "Hello, Hugo."
[ollyprattle]|20:57 boucher says, "My mother was always very squeamish about guns, while my grandfather was all, 'Nonsense.  He's almost 10!  Boy his age should have at least a dozen!'  So she spent a lot of time lying to me about what he sent me for birthdays and such."
[lounge]|20:57 Hugo says, "I suppose it is."
[ollyprattle]|20:57 boucher says, "I was pretty good at archery too, but yeah...it was no picnic, and my muscles ached by the end."
[lounge]|21:00 Johnny says, "I am amused."
[food]|21:01 Allen says, "ok, minor pastebomb for a dallas donut place I vaguely know:"
[food]|21:01 Allen | Hypnotic Donuts
[food]|21:01 Allen | 9007 Garland Road
[food]|21:01 Allen | Actual conversation that happened when I was in line the last time I was at Hypnotic:
[food]|21:01 Allen | Customer: (looking at a case full of animal-cracker-topped donuts) So, um -- you guys have
[food]|21:01 Allen | anything gluten-free?
[food]|21:01 Allen | Owner: (unapologetically) Naw, man. No.
[food]|21:01 Allen | Customer: OK. Gimme a half dozen of the bacon ones.
[ollyprattle]|21:01 Olly says, "I'm afraid of guns, probably even more than is rational."
[ollyprattle]|21:03 Johnny says, "Well, the line for irrational starts a little bit after "disembodied gun floats around shooting stuff""
[ollyprattle]|21:04 Olly says, "I would find it frightening to touch a gun that I had very good reason to believe was not loaded."
[food]|21:06 baf says, "Also, that etymology makes it tempting to think that this is also the source of the suffix -ember on month names, but apparently that's not so."
[TV]|21:06 Dave says, "crap night"
[TV]|21:06 Dave says, "monday shows are all reruns"
[ollyprattle]|21:06 Johnny asks, "Is the safety on?"
[ollyprattle]|21:06 borowski asks (of Johnny), "Are you suggesting guns migrate?"
[ollyprattle]|21:06 Olly says, "And I do find them alarming even when no one is holding them."
[TV]|21:06 Dave says, "think I might watch dollhouse or something"
[TV]|21:07 Dave says, "or not"
[ollyprattle]|21:07 maga says, "I think if you stop finding guns somewhat alarming, you shouldn't really have access to one"
[ollyprattle]|21:07 Olly says (to Johnny), "Well, I wouldn't be able to tell, but let us say that it is."
[TV]|21:07 baf says, "I was thinking about Dollhouse lately"
[TV]|21:08 baf says, "because I was watching The Cabin in the Woods, which features at least two major cast members from Dollhouse."
[TV]|21:08 Dave says, "also tempted to see Cabin tonight"
[TV]|21:08 Dave says, "I hear it's very cool"
[ollyprattle]|21:09 Johnny says, "If the gun shoots, the safety's probably off."
[ollyprattle]|21:09 Allen says, "living in Montana can't be easy for someone who doesn't care for guns"
[jobs]|21:09 Dave says, "think I'm slightly peeved at the sudden change of business at my client"
[ollyprattle]|21:10 Olly says (to Allen), "Well, it isn't as if people walk down the street with six-shooters in their belts.  Not most people anyway."
[ollyprattle]|21:10 maga says, "yeah, that's Wyoming"
[jobs]|21:10 Dave says, "the manager has done a complete 180 on how he's handling our project"
[ollyprattle]|21:10 Allen asks, "do you still have gun racks in trucks?"
[ollyprattle]|21:10 Allen says, "those have actually disappeared from TX in the last 20 years"
[ollyprattle]|21:10 Olly says, "I haven't noticed them."
[jobs]|21:10 Dave says, "and not giving me a straight answer on an end-date"
[ollyprattle]|21:11 Olly says, "I probably pass people who are carrying guns fairly frequently, but I have only a couple of times been able to tell."
[ollyprattle]|21:12 maga says, "the cop badge is a dead giveaway"
[ollyprattle]|21:12 Olly says (to maga), "Yes.  I find police quite frightening because they carry guns."
[ollyprattle]|21:12 Allen says, "I own a gun, but I've never fired it. I've got a double barrel 12 gauge I inherited from my grandfather. It's got a patent number on it from the 1890s. He told me it's "cursed""
[ollyprattle]|21:13 Olly says, "Probably good you haven't fired it, then."
[ollyprattle]|21:13 Allen says, "his uncle accidentally killed his best friend with it. After a hunting trip. There was alcohol involved"
[ollyprattle]|21:13 Olly says, "Uf."
[ollyprattle]|21:13 Olly says, "My mother was taught to shoot as a young teenager."
[ollyprattle]|21:13 maga says, "that doesn't really require a curse"
[ollyprattle]|21:14 Allen says, "and then his cousin shot off his big toe and second biggest toe. He was sitting down, leaning on the butt of the gun, with the barrel resting on his toe, and kinda bouncing up and down"
[ollyprattle]|21:14 Allen says, "one accident doesn't make a curse... but two? I don't know"
[ollyprattle]|21:14 maga says, "so by 'curse' we are to understand 'habit of doing dumb shit around guns'"
[ollyprattle]|21:15 Allen says, "anyway, I don't have any ammo. But I've got it in a closet, in case a burglar breaks in. I can hit him with it"
[ollyprattle]|21:15 Olly says, "Maybe your family is cursed, not the gun."
[ollyprattle]|21:15 Johnny says, "And then he'll sue you and win."
[ollyprattle]|21:15 Allen says, "same difference, since I'm in that family!"
[ollyprattle]|21:15 borowski exclaims, "'Curse' as in, "Fuck! I shot my toe!"
[ollyprattle]|21:16 Olly says (to borowski), "I was thinking more of a family culture of carelessness with firearms."
[ollyprattle]|21:17 maga says, "we've still got Jacq's old police Glock"
[ollyprattle]|21:18 maga says, "it is probably no longer all that useful now that she's out of LE and unlikely to be subject to death threats"
[ollyprattle]|21:19 maga says, "but hey, maybe someday we'll be somewhere they're protecting an owl or something, and then it'll be death threats for everyone"
[ollyprattle]|21:21 Allen asks, "forest rangers aren't technical law enforcement officers?"
[lounge]|21:21 nm, Whitehead and Russell reveal themselves as complete amateurs
[lounge]|21:21 nm says, "hi"
[ollyprattle]|21:21 maga says, "park ranger"
[lounge]|21:21 Olly says, "Hello, nm."
[ollyprattle]|21:21 maga says, "and she's not a ranger any more, she's management"
[ollyprattle]|21:21 Allen says, "whatever. Everyone knows every park is a forest"
[ollyprattle]|21:22 Allen says, "In TX, gobs of state officials are technical "law enforcement officers""
[ollyprattle]|21:22 Allen says, "it's kinda surprising"
[ollyprattle]|21:22 maga says, "she could have kept her commission if she wanted to"
[ollyprattle]|21:22 maga says, "but it would have been kind of bullshit"
[ollyprattle]|21:22 maga says, "she'd have been required to do just enough training to waste a lot of her time, for skills she'd never have used"
[ollyprattle]|21:23 maga says, "but not enough to stop her being rusty on the off-chance that she *did* need to use them"
[ollyprattle]|21:23 maga says, "so it'd have been a big old waste of money and time"
[lounge]|21:23 nm says, "I have a new movie"
[lounge]|21:24 nm | youtu.be/wk_9hSiBtGo
[ollyprattle]|21:24 Olly says, "The only somewhat plausible context in which I can imagine fear of guns being a problem for me is if I am ever involved in a tense situation with a police officer.  I think exaggerated fear of guns, and therefore of people who carry them, could possibly make me do something unexpected."
[lounge]|21:24 nm says, "at 3 minutes and 12 seconds, it may be worth your while to view it"
[ollyprattle]|21:25 Olly says, "I already think I look kind of shifty whenever I'm around police (and of course worrying that I look shifty probably makes me look even more shifty)."
[ollyprattle]|21:25 maga says, "everybody's edgy around cops"
[ollyprattle]|21:26 Olly says, "Yeah, I guess so."
[ollyprattle]|21:26 Johnny says, "Just don't say "I smell bacon" unless immediately followed by "Would anyone like some?""
[ollyprattle]|21:27 Olly asks, "?"
[ollyprattle]|21:27 Olly says, "Oh."
[ollyprattle]|21:27 Olly says, "Right."
[ollyprattle]|21:27 Allen says, "Jacqueline, Texas Ranger has a great ring to it, though"
[ollyprattle]|21:27 maga says, "I liked the look of Big Bend"
[ollyprattle]|21:27 maga says, "she is not fond of deserts, though"
[ollyprattle]|21:28 Allen asks, "deserts??"
[ollyprattle]|21:28 Allen asks, "Do we have any true deserts in TX?"
[college]|21:28 Bishop says, "Wow. The University of Florida is _eliminating_ its computer science department? Madness."
[college]|21:28 Allen says, "recap"
[ollyprattle]|21:28 maga says, "just the Chihuahua"
[college]|21:28 Bishop says, "Man, I should just always recap before saying anything."
[ollyprattle]|21:28 maga says, "not your Texas"
[lounge]|21:29 Pinstripe has departed, dahlings.
[college]|21:29 Bishop says, "Hmm, that is less distressing than I thought, but still a bit crazypants."
[ollyprattle]|21:29 Allen says, "ah, the Chihuahuan desert does extend to TX"
[ollyprattle]|21:29 Allen says, "that's good. We encompass just about every terrain type."
[ollyprattle]|21:29 Allen says, "unlike every other state"
[ollyprattle]|21:30 Olly says, "California has a very wide variety of terrain."
[lounge]|21:30 Dave says, "nice"
[ollyprattle]|21:30 Olly says, "That's one reason it is a good place to make movies."
[ollyprattle]|21:31 Olly says, "Besides the fact that the police have guns and I'm scared of guns, I was raised among lefty activist types, so I was taught as a child that the police are not necessarily friendly."
[lounge]|21:32 Allen says, "the texts go by too quick"
[ollyprattle]|21:33 Olly perseverates.
[ollyprattle]|21:33 Allen says, "california doesn't begin to equal Texas. It's not a quarter of the diversity or greatness or awesomeness of Texas"
[ollyprattle]|21:33 Olly says (to Allen), "No doubt."
[ollyprattle]|21:34 Olly says, "Nobody feels patriotic about California.  At least nobody I know."
[lounge]|21:34 nm says (to Allen), "sorry about that ... yours is the second comment of that sort. I'll tell the filmmakers in case they want to try to fix that"
[lounge]|21:35 Miseri regularly eats multiples of things inky wouldn't eat more than zero of.
[lounge]|21:35 Miseri says, "arrr"
[lounge]|21:35 Olly says, "Hello, Miseri."
[lounge]|21:35 Olly says, "Arr."
[lounge]|21:35 trikiw was unable to father children after a freak accident at a zipper testing facility.
[lounge]|21:35 Olly says, "Hello, triki."
[lounge]|21:35 trikiw says, "heya"
[ollyprattle]|21:37 Olly perseverates some more.  "The police came and took me away to the hospital at the end of my time at college."
[urls]|21:37 K-Y says, "I like that paidcontent.org is not"
[ollyprattle]|21:38 maga says, "oof"
[ollyprattle]|21:38 Olly says, "It was scary."
[ollyprattle]|21:38 Olly says, "They were pretty nice, though."
[ollyprattle]|21:39 maga says, "that's good"
[gardening]|21:39 Bishop says, "Anyone know anything about pachysandra procumbens? Had it recommended as a native groundcover."
[ollyprattle]|21:40 Olly says, "I don't know if they were the special mental health retrieval team or anything.  They were both women, which was kind of different."
[ollyprattle]|21:41 maga says, "police in general are super-edgy about mental health issues"
[ollyprattle]|21:41 maga says, "largely because police, especially in the US, are trained to worry *all the time* about being attacked"
[ollyprattle]|21:41 maga says, "and rational people rarely attack police"
[ollyprattle]|21:41 Olly says, "Well, people experiencing mental health crises are unpredictable."
[ollyprattle]|21:43 Olly says, "Yeah."
[lounge]|21:45 inky is mostly just chilling, trying to avoid pollution and forest fires.
[lounge]|21:45 maga says, "hey inky"
[lounge]|21:45 inky says, "re-me"
[lounge]|21:45 Olly says, "Hello, inky."
[lounge]|21:45 Jacqueline says, "Hi, inky."
[ollyprattle]|21:45 Olly says, "Overall it was kind of a sudden and upsetting chain of events.  I kind of wonder how much of a lasting effect it has had."
[exercise]|21:46 maga says, "grr, I have cuts on my hand from the pool wall"
[exercise]|21:46 maga says, "stupid stibbly pebbled nonsense"
[exercise]|21:46 Jacqueline says, "yeah, you have to be careful."
[ollyprattle]|21:46 borowski asks, "What do you mean?"
[exercise]|21:46 Jacqueline says, "You knew though..."
[exercise]|21:46 Jacqueline says, "(For I have had holes put in me.)"
[TV]|21:46 borowski says, "I wonder if Twin Peaks is as good as I remeber.  Let's find out."
[exercise]|21:47 Jacqueline asks, "How far did you go?"
[exercise]|21:47 maga says, "as far as last time; 2k"
[ollyprattle]|21:47 Olly says (to ouroboroski), "How much of the anxiety I experience about certain things now is related."
[exercise]|21:47 inky asks, "does anyone wear gloves when swimming?"
[TV]|21:47 Allen says, "I hated twin peaks"
[exercise]|21:47 inky says, "I've never heard of it but it doesn't seem crazy"
[TV]|21:47 DorianX says, "my guess is"
[TV]|21:47 Allen says, "and never understood people who said it was good"
[TV]|21:47 Ellison says, "the second season really suffers when they added that third peak"
[exercise]|21:47 maga says, "I was going for Ironfish, but I had phlegm issues and then there were Other People in the pool"
[TV]|21:47 inky asks, "now that people have seen Lost, will Twin Peaks still seem crazy?"
[TV]|21:48 inky says (to Ellison), "hee hee"
[TV]|21:48 DorianX says, "that you will very quickly discover that television has evolved a lot in the past 20 years"
[TV]|21:48 borowski says, "Heh."
[exercise]|21:48 Jacqueline exclaims, "!!!"
[exercise]|21:48 Jacqueline asks, "?"
[housing]|21:48 K-Y says, "come Friday night, I will have a bed and a single chair in this place"
[news]|21:48 inky | The Washington Post notes that the South Korean president has been the focus of harsh rhetoric from the North for years, especially after his decision to end the generous aid packages of his predecessors. Recent articles from the North's state-run news agency have called him "human scum" and an "underwit with 2MB of knowledge."
[exercise]|21:48 maga exclaims, "I know! It never happens!"
[news]|21:48 inky says, "but 2MB should be enough for anyone"
[exercise]|21:48 Jacqueline asks, "What did they want?"
[exercise]|21:48 maga says, "I was trundling back and forth and then there were LEGS"
[news]|21:48 Allen says, "ha ha ha"
[TV]|21:48 DorianX says, "This is basically how Ifeel every time I watch something that was groundbreaking when it first aired"
[housing]|21:48 inky asks, "is that an improvement or a comedown?"
[exercise]|21:48 maga says, "they wanted to have a nice time in the pool"
[exercise]|21:48 maga says, "the bastards"
[exercise]|21:48 Jacqueline says, "Damn."
[news]|21:48 inky says, ""underwit" is a pretty good phrase"
[news]|21:48 Ellison says, "whoa, that 2MB thing is awesome"
[exercise]|21:48 Jacqueline asks, "So how far did you go before they had the nerve to try swimming?"
[TV]|21:48 borowski says, "I mostly remember liking Kyle MacLachlan's character."
[exercise]|21:49 Jacqueline says, "(Bastards.)"
[news]|21:49 maga asks, "is Onstad's new job writing press releases for the North Koreans?"
[housing]|21:49 K-Y says, "well, right now there are six chairs, two couches, three tables, three bookcases, and three dressers"
[news]|21:49 inky says, "ha ha"
[housing]|21:49 K-Y says, "and a bed"
[news]|21:49 Allen says, "of course, Verisign sent me a 64k usb thumbdrive a couple years ago"
[exercise]|21:49 maga says, "I was close to 2 km when they got in, so I just got to a round number and called it"
[news]|21:49 Allen says, "I couldn't believe it. They must have been clearing out a warehouse full of 1990s era usb drives"
[ollyprattle]|21:50 borowski says, "I can relate to that."
[news]|21:50 Allen says, "Verisign gives away weird crap to their customers."
[news]|21:50 Allen says, "they sent me a bamboo plant once"
[ollyprattle]|21:50 borowski says, "I wonder if it's possible to have some form of PTSD from mental health issues."
[ollyprattle]|21:50 Olly says, "That would be messed up."
[news]|21:50 Allen says, "and this anime comic about evil pirate hackers"
[exercise]|21:51 Jacqueline says, "Ah.  Well, still.  You were phlegmy."
[ollyprattle]|21:51 maga says, "well, you don't need PTSD to have a formative experience"
[exercise]|21:51 Jacqueline says, "Go back down now and do it, maybe."
[exercise]|21:51 Jacqueline says, "(Kidding, though only just.)"
[exercise]|21:51 maga says, "but my finger"
[exercise]|21:51 Jacqueline asks, "Your finger?"
[exercise]|21:51 maga says, "it has holes in"
[exercise]|21:51 Jacqueline asks, "Your finger is the excuse?"
[exercise]|21:51 Jacqueline says, "So don't touch the rocks."
[exercise]|21:51 maga says, "I have also had a beer"
[exercise]|21:51 Jacqueline says, "Oh."
[exercise]|21:52 maga says, "and my trunks are nasty and damp"
[exercise]|21:52 Jacqueline says, "Oh."
[TV]|21:52 Ellison says, "I wonder if it's partly due to Twin Peaks that there was a strong 'pie culture' in the early ifMUD days"
[exercise]|21:52 Jacqueline says, "Tomorrow, then."
[exercise]|21:52 maga says, "and I am enjoying to listening to angry Finns"
[ollyprattle]|21:52 Olly says, "Yeah, and getting taken away by the police and locked up more or less against your will is pretty disruptive even absent the mental health issues."
[books]|21:52 Allen says, "I bought two books from the UK which sounded good on Abebooks"
[exercise]|21:52 Jacqueline says, "It has rained non-stop here.  People are blaming me, because I am from Seattle and it is sunny in Seattle."
[exercise]|21:52 Jacqueline says, "They claim it has followed me."
[exercise]|21:52 maga says, "muahahahaha"
[exercise]|21:52 Jacqueline says, "So you should have lots of sun tomorrow for more swimming."
[exercise]|21:52 maga asks, "you have pointed out that it rains more in DC than Seattle, right?"
[exercise]|21:53 Jacqueline says, "Because by their theory, I am still here."
[exercise]|21:53 Jacqueline says (to maga), "No, but they know that, I think."
[books]|21:53 Allen says, "Records of English Court Music vol IV 1603-1625 and  Records of English Court Music Volume VI 1558-1603"
[lounge]|21:53 ASchultz has arrived.
[lounge]|21:53 Olly says, "Hello, ASchultz."
[lounge]|21:53 ASchultz says, "Hello Olly."
[ollyprattle]|21:54 Olly says, "I had a cell phone back then and didn't know anyone's phone number, so I spent the first part of my time at the hospital worrying that nobody knew where I was."
[books]|21:54 Allen says, "yeah, out of order. A review mentioned that, but it also said what a fabulous resource they are"
[lounge]|21:54 ASchultz goes southwest to play with toys.
[books]|21:54 Allen says, "it turns out to be literal records of the english court"
[books]|21:55 inky says, "ha ha ha"
[ollyprattle]|21:55 Olly | :(
[ollyprattle]|21:55 Olly says, "I think I should think about something else now."
[books]|21:55 Allen says, "so, hundreds of pages of the names of musicians and the amount of pounds, shillings, and pence they were paid"
[books]|21:55 Allen says, "with dates"
[books]|21:55 Allen says, "and no context except that"
[lounge]|21:55 McMartin will IMMEDIATELY receive POWERFUL BONUSES
[lounge]|21:55 Olly says, "Hello, McMartin."
[books]|21:55 Jacqueline asks, "Gosh... how much?"
[lounge]|21:56 Olly takes a plastic hamster ball from their pocket, steps into it, and rolls away.
[books]|21:56 Jacqueline asks, "Enough to make you sad?"
[books]|21:56 inky says, "man"
[books]|21:56 Allen says, "oh, they were cheap because it's abebooks. $25 each, plus $20 shipping because it was from the UK"
[books]|21:56 inky says, "I wonder what it was a fabulous resource for"
[books]|21:56 Allen says, "the price of the books new from Amazon are like $150"
[books]|21:56 inky says, "I guess it tells you who a bunch of musicians were and how much they were valued"
[books]|21:56 Allen says (to inky), "musicological research"
[TV]|21:57 borowski says, "I feel like my cultural life is often lacking in pie."
[lounge]|21:58 ASchultz arrives from the Toyshop, declaring, "It's Castle Grayskull -- AND IT'S MINE!"
[lounge]|21:58 ASchultz takes the elevator up the magic bird perch.
[books]|21:58 Allen says, "ah, retail on Barnes & Noble.com is $130 apiece"
[videogames]|21:59 McMartin says, "Hmm. The ME3 thing is avoiding something moderately important"
[videogames]|21:59 McMartin says, "To wit, the huge number of fetch quests replaces *mining*"
[videogames]|22:00 inky says, "if so then a bunch of quests just disappeared instead of being converted into fetch quests"
[videogames]|22:01 McMartin says, "Yeah. The 'UNC' missions, mainly."
[kitties]|22:03 DorianX says, "we've decided that the next time we take the cat to the vet is the last time"
[books]|22:03 Allen says, "oh well, I'll stick it in my library. I've been building a decent music library. I envy the person who gets to handle my estate when I die, and figure out how to price and dispose of everything"
[videogames]|22:04 McMartin says, "That said, I'm not at all sure I buy this claim:"
[videogames]|22:04 McMartin | A quest whose only purpose was to justify multiplayer content. While these are classified as N7 they are so much weaker than Mass Effect 2's N7 quests that I think they should be classified separately.
[videogames]|22:04 McMartin says, "IIRC, ME2's N7 quests were basically one room full of dudes that you mowed down"
[band-name]|22:05 borowski says, "Pocket Rocket"
[band-name]|22:05 borowski says, "Maybe, 'Pocket Rock-it'"
[band-name]|22:05 McMartin says, "Pocky Rock"
[band-name]|22:06 borowski says, "Pokey Rock"
[videogames]|22:06 McMartin says, "Also, while I'm not sure how this stacks up"
[videogames]|22:06 McMartin says, "I found all three games to be about 30 hours long, and despite all the fetch quests I spent much less time in 'resource gathering' mode (which is where those fetch quests fit in)"
[kitties]|22:07 DorianX says, "They gave her fluids and an appetite enhancer"
[videogames]|22:07 McMartin says, "So while quest count is down, quest length, I think, is up."
[kitties]|22:07 DorianX says, "She seems to have gone into a tailspin toda. She's unsteady on her feet"
[videogames]|22:08 Jon says, "hm, yeah, it felt like the Thessia mission in ME3 was longer than, say, the Mordin recruitment or Jack recruitment in ME2."
[TV]|22:08 Grocible says, "I liked Twin Peaks a lot"
[videogames]|22:08 Jon says, "but I don't really think it was good that it was longer."
[TV]|22:08 Grocible says, "until the season where they went busily shark jumping"
[kitties]|22:08 DorianX says, "if she won't eat soon, she's almost out of time"
[videogames]|22:08 McMartin says, "This was the first Mass Effect where the resource gathering part didn't offend me"
[kitties]|22:08 borowski says, "I'm sorry to hear it. I had a cat that went the same sort of way."
[videogames]|22:08 McMartin says, "I am not sure how much of that is due to"
[videogames]|22:09 McMartin says, "XEBTNA QVABFNHE PNINYEL"
[TV]|22:09 Grocible says, "and of course the movie was a big pile of fish entrails"
[videogames]|22:09 Jon says, "heh"
[TV]|22:09 Grocible says, "smelly, foetid, and the only people who said they liked it were crazy or lying"
[TV]|22:09 borowski says, "I've never seen the movie, but I've heard that."
[videogames]|22:09 McMartin says, "There is definitely a sense of Not Much to Do On The Hub"
[TV]|22:10 borowski says, "I'm not sure if Twin Peaks jumped the shark, or David Lynch just started being his weird self."
[videogames]|22:10 Jon says, "I think the only part of the ME3 story that I felt was worthwhile were the Tuchanka and Rannoch missions."
[TV]|22:10 borowski says, "Though I never saw most of the second season."
[TV]|22:10 Grocible says, "it felt like a bunch of hired hands were running the show"
[videogames]|22:10 McMartin says, "Well, those were mission sets."
[TV]|22:11 Grocible asks, "though having said that, given what he did with the movie, who knows?"
[videogames]|22:11 McMartin says, "Rannoch has two 'Priorities' before it that are part of the same Act, as it were."
[videogames]|22:11 Jon says, "sure"
[videogames]|22:11 McMartin says, "And the two Tuchanka 'side quests' are so heavily tied in to the priority they should count too"
[videogames]|22:11 Jon says, "no real branching, though, so I consider them to just be long missions"
[videogames]|22:11 McMartin says, "And yes, those were easily the strongest points in the game."
[photoshop]|22:11 K-Y says, "okay, beta hasn't expired yet"
[TV]|22:11 borowski says, "I heard that Lynch wasn't as involved in the second season because he was mad about being pressured by the network into revealing the killer."
[videogames]|22:11 McMartin says, "Wnpx'f erghea va Tevffbz Npnqrzl trgf zl Zbfg Vzcebirq njneq."
[photoshop]|22:12 K-Y says, "however, basically the new brushes lag far too much for me to actually use"
[videogames]|22:12 McMartin says, "And the mission there is, I think, my #3."
[videogames]|22:13 McMartin says, "Really, the Post-Thessia gameplay was also pretty good, though not with quite as massive a payoff."
[videogames]|22:14 McMartin says, "I do continue to find it kind of aggravating that because of the way sidequest mechanics work in Mass Effect games, 'Priority' means 'Do this dead last, for God's sake'"
[videogames]|22:17 K-Y asks, "isn't that straight out of the RPG cliches list?"
[TV]|22:17 Grocible says, "you know that a movie's going to be self-indulgent twaddle when the director, who doesn't normally act, casts himself as a non cameo part"
[videogames]|22:17 Jon says, "well, there are some missions in ME3 with a deadline"
[ftoast]|22:17 schep asks, "Anybody for some #ftoast?"
[TV]|22:18 K-Y says, "Lynch didn't even go on stage at the end of that Duran Duran concert he directed"
[TV]|22:19 K-Y says, "when they all gestated to an empty bit of the stage expectantly"
[TV]|22:19 inky says, "ha ha"
[lounge]|22:22 trikiw goes flopbot
[lounge]|22:27 Rob comes right on in.
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Rob says, "gvello"
[videogames] McMartin says, "Yes, and the deadlines are, IIRC, 'once you complete the mission marked 'Priority''"
inky says, "hey it's Rob"
Rob says, "harp"
[videogames] McMartin says, "Unless I'm forgetting some"
[videogames] McMartin says, "Which I easily could be"
Ellison says, "hey Rob"
[TV] Rob says, "yesterday I gayed out and watched all the episodes of Smash"
[videogames] McMartin says, "The other thing about the RPG Cliches list is that players get very, very, very butthurt when you violate them"
[TV] Rob says, "that show they promoted heavily during the super bowl for some reason"
[videogames] McMartin says, "It's even legitimate, if it doesn't warn you first or indicate that it's happening in some way"
[videogames] McMartin says, "Looking at you, Fallout 1.0"
[TV] Rob says, "one of the characters at one point says 'sports are anathema to me' and I liked him instantly"
[TV] Ellison says, "oh, yeah? I sort of wanted to see it just because of Angelica Huston (or however it's spelled) but didn't, for somewhat obvious reasons"
[TV] Rob says, "well-plotted show, soap opera and backstage musical"
[videogames] McMartin says, "But this is also something of a barrier to entry"
[TV] Rob says, "which is a reliable musical formula because you can do show-within-the-show songs, people 'rehearsing' songs, people randomly bursting into song because they are people who love to sing, etc"
McMartin says, "Grob"
[TV] Rob says, "there's kind of an even divide between hetero characters having hetero relationships and gay characters having gay relationships"
[TV] Rob says, "really good cast"
[TV] Rob says, "really good-looking cast"
[TV] inky says, "naturally Matthew hates it"
[TV] Rob says, "and because half of each episode is a dance rehearsal the women all wear dancing tights, which is a lovely sight"
[TV] (from Ellison) Rob says, "but part of me has to admit that I thought there'd be more smashing"
[TV] Rob says, "and the men don't, which is fine by me"
[TV] Rob says, "I watched the episodes in this order: 7, 8, 2, 4, 5, 6, 9, 10, 11, 1, 3"
[TV] Ellison says, "it takes a special type of show where I can appreciate attractive actors and actresses for being attractive"
[TV] inky says, "also, "I keep clicking on the pictures of lesbians on this dating site but it won't let me send them a message" "Sure, don't you notice, the icon is gayed out""
Miseri is very disappointed in you.  Earlier, he may have ransacked your office, but he is *very* disappointed in you.
</Miseri> Llama llama duck
[TV] Rob says, "so the first thing I saw was the big investor try-out performance, then the episode that dealt with the aftermath of that (people getting fired and stuff), then I wanted to see how it led up to that but decided the pilot was redundant so I'd start over with 2"
[TV] Rob says, "anjelica huston is great"
[TV] Rob says, "it is glossily well made in general"
[videogames] McMartin says, "Hrm."
[videogames] McMartin says, "There's at least one mission I remember taking that I don't see on the ME3 quest list"
[videogames] McMartin says, "Gur bar jurer lbh'er pbyyrpgvat cubgb bcf va gur ershtrr nern sbe cebcntnaqn checbfrf"
[videogames] Rob says, "I see you speak Krogan"
[TV] Ellison says, "I finally got around to watching the show Kings (after remembering liza's recommendation the other year). it was entertaining, but after I got to the end, I read the wikipedia entry on the Book of David (on which its based) and then was sort of glad it got canceled"
[videogames] McMartin headbutts Rob?
[TV] Rob says, "huh, I never heard of Kings"
[videogames] Rob nope, he doesn't
[videogames] McMartin says, "That's really the only word of Krogan I know"
[videogames] Rob says, "that IS the only word of Krogan"
[tangent] K-Y says, "that reminds me, Nielsen called with a survey today"
[movie] Rob says, "I finally saw Gladiator"
[tangent] K-Y says, "I told them I got rid of the TV last weekend and won't be getting another one"
[movie] Rob says, "tried for years to watch that but I found the first half hour godawful boring and could never get into it"
[movie] Ryan says, "Yay"
[movie] Ryan says, "Oh"
[TV] Ellison says, "is Smash not canceled yet? you may have convinced me to give it a try"
[movie] Rob says, "so I started 20 minutes in this time on purpose and shouted 'finally the story starts, finally there's a plot' and settled into it"
[TV] Rob says, "there was a new episode tonight"
[TV] Ellison asks, "has it been canceled since then?"
[TV] Rob says, "that I meant to watch but I guess I have to wait until it pops up in the on-demand menu, which is how I watched the other episodes"
[TV] Rob asks, "I don't think so ...?"
[TV] Ellison says, "sorry, bad joke"
[movie] Rob says, "it was pretty good"
[photoshop] K-Y says, "dammit, the brushes selection has gone weird"
[movie] Rob says, "it took a long time for me to make up my mind about that though"
[movie] Rob says, "I was pretty skeptical for an hour or so"
[photoshop] K-Y says, "it goes haywire and doesn't know what brush you had selected right after you select it"
[movie] inky says, "if you didn't like it for the first hour and a half it doesn't seem like there could have been much left"
[movie] Rob says, "kept wondering why it had been such a success, how the mass movie audience had the taste for it"
[movie] Ellison says, "my brother's friend's x-box tag is DeathByTrident"
[movie] schep asks, "you couldn't just take shouty-Rob's word for it?"
[movie] Rob says, "well it's one of those 3 hour deals"
[movie] inky says, "oh ok"
[movie] Rob says, "the whole thing has this really chilly vibe"
<zarf> has connected.
zarf walks in through the wall. Behind him, light shines briefly through, deep blue this time of day.
[movie] Rob says, "but ridley scott always kind of projects an emotional sterility"
[movie] Ellison says, "it's interesting since I think of Gladiator as a movie that it was good I saw it right away since I think it has aged so horribly, but yeah, maybe it's just because the beginning is so terrible. who knows? I won't watch it from the middle to find out."
[movie] Grocible asks, "rob; even in thelma and louise?"
[movie] Rob says, "I guess they are sort of making a greek tragedy as roman tragedy thing"
[movie] Rob says (to Grocible), "hmm, good counter-example"
[movie] Rob says, "it all leads up to the captive hero and those who have dared to plot with him to destroy the evil mad usurper's reign and replace it with republican democracy, and the plan is to smuggle him out of the city where he'll reassemble his former loyal troops and smash into the palace and save the day and the world"
[movie] Rob says, "which would be a pretty audience pleasing epic hollywood style finish"
[movie] Grocible says, "of course, I'm fully expecting Prometheus to be an emotionally sterile effects epic"
[movie] Rob says, "but instead the plan fails and the scale of everything narrows down instead of widening out"
[movie] Rob says, "and then there's a sad ending but with some justice and with some failure"
[movie] lpsmith says, "Oh, man, I thought Gladiator was the most boring movie ever."
[movie] Rob says, "a real downer"
[movie] Rob says (to lpsmith), "hooray"
[movie] Rob says, "validation"
[movie] Grocible says, "I remember enjoying Gladiator well enough"
[movie] Rob says, "I really did try for years to rent it and watch it on cable and I could never stop my mind from wandering"
[movie] maga says, "I was in the generation where Gladiator was the dumb action movie that was always on in someone's dorm room"
[movie] maga says, "if I'd been born a few years previously it would have been Braveheart"
[movie] lpsmith says, "Sara didn't like it because she was pregnant at the time and was over-sensitive to gore."
[movie] K-Y says, "for further validation, wait until Gunther's here"
[movie] Rob says, "suddenly it'd be 45 minutes in and I didn't know who anyone was or what was happening and I'd end up returning the video/changing channels with most of it unwatched"
[movie] Rob says, "I liked Braveheart at the time, but I can't watch it now"
[movie] Rob says, "although occasionally I will stop to watch Patrick McGoohan be badass for that one scene"
[movie] Rob says (to lpsmith), "oog"
[movie] Rob says, "'this movie is bad for the baby!'"
[kitties] DorianX says, "Man. We were hoping that after the vet, the cat would at least be a little better, but she seems to have gotten worse"
[movie] Rob says, "my nesting instinct says fie"
[kitties] Rob says, "aw"
#150 [misc/places/Boston]          From: nm            Date: 21-Apr-12 22:09
Subject: I have a reading on May 5 at 7pm
http://nickm.com/post/2012/04/borsuk-bok-montfort-may-5-7pm-lorem-ipsum/
#9 [ifmud/bots/Floyd]              From: vimes         Date: 23-Apr-12 09:47
Subject: Sleepmask system support
z-code, glulx, hugo, tads3 (now with better line wrapping), tads2 (except saving crashes the terp in tads2).  Also, the buffer overrun issue has been resolved, thanks to zarf.
#98 [misc/places/UK]               From: ghira         Date: 23-Apr-12 10:09
Subject: brightonmeet
who's up for a mudmeet in Brighton, to include train of death, chili shop, pizza 500? when would suit?
Quotations:
Tale (quoted by Johnny, 22-Apr-12):
  Tale says, "Always happy to boggle people"
inky (quoted by Jacqueline, 22-Apr-12):
  Grocible says, "so this adele character continues to sell billyuns of records"
  Grocible says, "her current single is on the loop at work"
  Grocible says, "and it's like listening to a FUCKING ELECTRIC DRILL"
  Ellison says, "I don't really have any concept of Adele, so I don't know how I'd react"
  inky says (to Ellison), "well, there are three schools of thought: some people say you should climb a tree, some people suggest raising your arms to make yourself look bigger, and some people suggest curling up in the fetal position and protecting your torso"
inky (quoted by borowski, 22-Apr-12):
  [gender] inky says (to DavidW), "the year is 2012 -- flying cars are still experimental, food pills are nonexistent, but we do have a worldwide network for delivering porn"
[kitties] maga asks, "vet visits are a lot of stress?"
[drawing] K-Y says, "yes, I have figured out a composition digitally"
[drawing] K-Y says, "after just two hours of mucking about"
[movie] lpsmith says, "Survey and pitch page updated with Los Vagos."
[movie] lpsmith says, "whoops, ilac."
[drawing] K-Y asks, "why doesn't the pencil brush even work?"
[drawing] K-Y says, "is this, like, supposed to simulate a 20H pencil"
[drawing] Rob says, "I thought you had your pencil brushes all figured out"
Channels:
#alt/band-name              : Atomic Fallout Bondies at the Disco and the S
#games/ftoast               : http://www.puzzlers.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=
#games/computer/videogames  : Tale says, "I go around a corner - 3 baby cow
#alt/tangent                : inky asks, "wait, is this going somewhere?"
#media/tv/TV                : Touchy says, "everything looka WEIRD"
#tech/software/photoshop    : Dave says, "i'm drawing a rectangle"
#alt/animals/kitties        : Taleslinger says, "Aw, Lucy meows at me becau
#media/movies/movie         : It should be noted that Mr. Hauer gives a sur
 misc/personal/lpRPG        : Lucian's live RPG game in Seattle.
+arts/drawing               : ink, pencil, crayon, marker, computer, whatev
(10 channels)
[lpRPG] * Rob has joined the channel.
#misc/personal/lpRPG: Lucian's live RPG game in Seattle.
Created: 10-Apr-12 01:07:39	Last message: 23-Apr-12 22:54:34
Users: Alex Auda inky Jacqueline +lpsmith maga markm Matthew Rob vimes
Also: (Cathy) (Fang) (Ghogg) (josh_g) (Jota) (Olly) (Sargent)
There are no new messages on #misc/personal/lpRPG.
[drawing] K-Y says, "this is the new erodible CS6 pencil brush"
Recapping 53 of 53 lines from misc/personal/lpRPG:
[lpRPG]/001 lpsmith exclaims, "OK, pitch email/survey sent!"
[lpRPG]/002 lpsmith says, " http://spod-central.org/~lpsmith/rpg/seattle/lprpg_pitches.html for the pitches; http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/M35DB62 for the survey."
[lpRPG]/003 maga looks
[lpRPG]/004 lpsmith says, "I came up with the first two, then stalled, then finally wrote the third and said, "Screw this, I'm sending it out before we actually meet.""
[lpRPG]/005 inky says, "ha ha"
[lpRPG]/006 inky says, "#3 is for me complaining about not enough politics, I see"
[lpRPG]/007 maga asks, "so you decided to just ditch the Zorro thing?"
[lpRPG]/008 lpsmith says, "Oh, I could put that back on the list, sure.  I thought Jacq in particular was not keen on it."
[lpRPG]/009 maga says, "I think she's tentative at best"
[lpRPG]/010 lpsmith asks, "About Zorro or about playing?"
[lpRPG]/011 inky says, "if she's the only one who's not into it then maybe we should do it anyway"
[lpRPG]/012 maga says, "about playing"
[lpRPG]/013 inky says, "it seemed like Cathy and Tom were pretty much up for whatever"
[lpRPG]/014 maga says, "she may be up for occasional sessions but I don't think she's super-keen on committing for a full campaign"
[lpRPG]/015 maga says, "so you probably shouldn't design around her too heavily"
[lpRPG]/016 lpsmith says, "If this was Skype you'd see my pencil erasing everything and giving up a few times."
[lpRPG]/017 lpsmith says, "It would be neat if she could make it."
[lpRPG]/018 lpsmith says, "And she makes it a good M:F ratio ;-)"
[lpRPG]/019 maga says, "I've said this before"
[lpRPG]/020 lpsmith says, "But, sure, I will add Los Vagos to the list."
[lpRPG]/021 lpsmith says, "Oh, I know."
[lpRPG]/022 lpsmith says, "(I'm not surprised; I know she's been waffling.  I was just hoping she would come 'round in the end.)"
[lpRPG]/023 maga says, "I'd think about coming up with some awesome guest-star roles"
[lpRPG]/024 maga says, "if we do Dresden Files Sigil than we can have monsters-of-the-week"
[lpRPG]/025 lpsmith says, "Any of these could be monster-of-the-week, really."
[lpRPG]/026 lpsmith says (to inky), "Also, Khazarica is partially your 'more politics' request, and partially a discussion I had with Sara, who basically pitched this exact idea (essentially describing the premise of B5 she thought we should imitate)"
[lpRPG]/027 maga says, "I guess my main objection to Planescape:Fallout is that the premise kind of ensures the PCs are all Clueless"
[lpRPG]/028 maga says, "and from more or less the same place"
[lpRPG]/029 maga says, "whereas a lot of the fun of Planescape is that it takes the 'exotic diverse party from all over the world' concept and turns it up to 11"
[lpRPG]/030 maga says, "*everyone* is a cursed half-tan'ari tiefling bard raised by exiled bariaurs on Mechanus"
[lpRPG]/031 maga says, "or equivalent"
[lpRPG]/032 lpsmith says, "Hmm."
[lpRPG]/033 vimes says (to maga), "funny thing is that in the last planescape campaign i was involved in, three people, sight unseen, came up with that character give or take the Mechanus part"
[lpRPG]/034 maga says, "well, yeah, tieflings are the coolest"
[lpRPG]/035 maga says, "they get to goth it up and sass people"
[lpRPG]/036 maga says (to lpsmith), "also, I started watching the Dresden Files largely at your prompting and was pleasantly surprised"
[lpRPG]/037 lpsmith says, "Well, I don't really know Planescape further than the CRPG, but making everyone clueless is great from my persepective as the GM, since I don't know much, and from the perspective of the newbies, who also don't know anything, so this gives them an in-game reason to be clueless."
[lpRPG]/038 lpsmith says, "Oh, is the show good?  I've only read the books."
[lpRPG]/039 lpsmith says, "(which are great)"
[lpRPG]/040 lpsmith says, "(in a pulp-y way)"
[lpRPG]/041 maga says, "it kind of follows the Whedon formula of a) not padding your episodes out with waffling and b) a steady stream of hot chicks"
[lpRPG]/042 lpsmith says, "Ha."
[lpRPG]/043 vimes says, "there's two taps, one for hot chicks and one for cold chicks"
[lpRPG]/044 vimes says, "but they're both labelled 'C'"
[lpRPG]/045 inky says, "hot running chicks"
[lpRPG]/046 vimes says (to inky), "they frequently are"
[lpRPG]/047 lpsmith says (to maga), "That said, if we did end up with Planescape: Fallout, and you wanted to be from outside the city, that'd be perfectly fine."
[lpRPG]/048 maga says, "good good"
[lpRPG]/049 maga says, "I will ready my gobby mascara, horns and rat tail"
[lpRPG]/050 lpsmith says, "Hee"
[lpRPG]/051 lpsmith says, "Survey and pitch page updated with Los Vagos."
[lpRPG]/052 maga says, "voted"
[lpRPG]/053 * Rob has joined the channel.
Recapped 53 of 53 lines from misc/personal/lpRPG.
[lpRPG] Rob says, "huh missed this"
[news] DorianX says, "Oh, so that lead on the missing kid from the 70s didn't pan out"
[news] inky says, "really? lame"
<Gangreen> Gangreen has connected to ifMUD.
[lpRPG] Rob asks, "why don't you bb those links?"
[news] Allen asks, "aw, man, the corpose-sniffing dog blew it?"
[news] inky says, "so basically it was a non-story"
[news] Allen says, "er corpse"
[lpRPG] Rob says, "then it's like keeping a blog journal of progress"
[drawing] K-Y says, "no matter how hard I press on this tablet, however, the little picture of a pencil never gets closer to the virtual paper surface"
[news] Rob says, "huh"
Recapping 7 of 7 lines from arts/drawing:
[drawing]/001 K-Y says, "yes, I have figured out a composition digitally"
[drawing]/002 K-Y says, "after just two hours of mucking about"
[drawing]/003 K-Y asks, "why doesn't the pencil brush even work?"
[drawing]/004 K-Y says, "is this, like, supposed to simulate a 20H pencil"
[drawing]/005 Rob says, "I thought you had your pencil brushes all figured out"
[drawing]/006 K-Y says, "this is the new erodible CS6 pencil brush"
[drawing]/007 K-Y says, "no matter how hard I press on this tablet, however, the little picture of a pencil never gets closer to the virtual paper surface"
Recapped 7 of 7 lines from arts/drawing.
[news] Allen says, "fire him. Stick an ad on milk cartons, "Need: dog that can accurately sniff corpses""
[drawing] Rob says, "algorithmic simulation of nib erosion"
[lpRPG] inky says, "blogress"
[drawing] Rob asks, "does it leave speckles as it erodes?"
[news] Ellison says, "not only that, but the dog took a sick day for 4/20"
[lpRPG] Rob says, "yeah and ew and hey yah"
[lpRPG] inky says, "ha ha"
[news] Rob says, "sick day eatin doritos and wackin out"
[drawing] K-Y says, "I wish"
[drawing] K-Y says, "I'm sure they're saving it for CS8 or something"
[drawing] Rob asks, "so what is the erosion actually simulating?"
[drawing] Rob says, "of course with actual erosion speckles you're able to blow on the paper and they largely vanish"
[drawing] K-Y says, "the erosion of the lead"
[drawing] K-Y says, "seriously"
[drawing] K-Y says, "you watch as the virtual lead wears down to a nub"
[drawing] Rob asks, "does it run out or what? or you start 'sharp' every new stroke?"
[drawing] K-Y says, "it doesn't run out, but I'm not sure how to sharpen yet"
[drawing] Rob says, "cute, but this gets into a valley where it seems like you ought to just be using paper and graphite for real"
[drawing] Rob says, "ha ha"
[drawing] Rob says, "a tablet menu full of dull nibs"
[lpRPG] lpsmith says, "Sure, I can bb 'em."
[drawing] Rob says, "that makes me chuckle a lot"
<Pinstripe> All my life I've wanted to be somebody, and here I am!
Rob says, "I like that connect"
Rob says, "kind of navin-johnson-like"
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#misc/personal/lpRPG: Lucian's live RPG game in Seattle.
Created: 10-Apr-12 01:07:39	Last message: 23-Apr-12 23:00:06
Users: Alex Auda inky Jacqueline +lpsmith maga markm Matthew Rob vimes
Also: (Cathy) (Fang) (Ghogg) (josh_g) (Jota) (Olly) (Sargent)
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[lpRPG] Rob says, "what do you mean by 'live RPG'"
Pinstripe trips his way inside.
Pinstripe says, "hey."
[drawing] K-Y says, "yeah, there's charcoal and crayon and stuff"
[movie] Rob says, "oh yeah I saw another movie that was pretty good"
[lpRPG] maga says, "the sort where everybody can grab chips from the same bowl"
[movie] Rob says, "like a really solid B-movie"
[drawing] K-Y says, "they also happen to have more realistic airbrushes and watercolor"
[movie] Rob says, "called Centurion"
[movie] Rob says, "it was one of those british/french/other-euro co-productions, so I figured it would have classy actors"
[movie] Rob says, "it was also kind of short, like 83 minutes, and it moved at a fast clip"
[movie] Rob says, "this roman garrison in 117 AD is at war with tribes of Picts"
[baking] Jon says, "cornbread in oven"
[movie] Rob says, "the garrison is slaughtered from 300 down to 12, and then whittled down and whittled down and whittled down some more, as they go on the run and try to make a last stand at a protected fort"
</Gangreen> Gangreen has disconnected from ifMUD.
[movie] zarf says, "and then the phone rings!"
[movie] Rob says, "they jostle a love story into it in the last couple of chapters but it gives a chance at some kind of happy ending"
[movie] Rob says, "anyway, yeah, Centurion, solid B-movie. rather bloody, being set in barbaric times"
[movie] Rob says, "the Oddjob like henchman is this slavic babe who never speaks but has the cunning and treachery and killer instincts of a wolf - huntress"
[movie] Rob says, "which is well and good"
[baking] Rob says, "and all is well"
[lpRPG] Rob says, "oh ok right"
[lpRPG] * NewsBoy hollers, "Extra! Extra! lpsmith has posted message 1, about 'Pitches!', to the bulletin board! You have a mind of your own, take it to the Dome."
[lpRPG] Rob says, "I was thinking too far ahead and imagining a live-action RPG instead of a 'live, not on-MUD' ('analog, not digital') RPG"
[movie] Rob says, "also, actual wolves"
[movie] Rob says, "scotland-as-middle-earth"
[nameless] Pinstripe says, "uuurgh, this game is frustrating"
[lpRPG] Rob says, "heh I read the 'khazarica station' synopsis and sat back and thought, 'ah, it's like deep space nine', only to read the next paragraph"
[movie] Allen says, "that's the new robin-williams-as-doctor"
[nameless] Ellison says, "I just mapped it out the other day but have yet to honestly try to make much progress"
#if/games/nameless: Endless, Nameless
Created: 20-Apr-12 00:25:59	Last message: 23-Apr-12 23:11:31
Users: Alex Auda borowski Ellison inky markm Matthew Pinstripe Recchi Rob vimes
Also: (+Adam) (ctate) (Fang) (Ghogg) (Gunther) (josh_g) (Limax) (Olly)
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Recapping 66 of 66 lines from misc/personal/lpRPG:
[lpRPG]/001 lpsmith exclaims, "OK, pitch email/survey sent!"
[lpRPG]/002 lpsmith says, " http://spod-central.org/~lpsmith/rpg/seattle/lprpg_pitches.html for the pitches; http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/M35DB62 for the survey."
[lpRPG]/003 maga looks
[lpRPG]/004 lpsmith says, "I came up with the first two, then stalled, then finally wrote the third and said, "Screw this, I'm sending it out before we actually meet.""
[lpRPG]/005 inky says, "ha ha"
[lpRPG]/006 inky says, "#3 is for me complaining about not enough politics, I see"
[lpRPG]/007 maga asks, "so you decided to just ditch the Zorro thing?"
[lpRPG]/008 lpsmith says, "Oh, I could put that back on the list, sure.  I thought Jacq in particular was not keen on it."
[lpRPG]/009 maga says, "I think she's tentative at best"
[lpRPG]/010 lpsmith asks, "About Zorro or about playing?"
[lpRPG]/011 inky says, "if she's the only one who's not into it then maybe we should do it anyway"
[lpRPG]/012 maga says, "about playing"
[lpRPG]/013 inky says, "it seemed like Cathy and Tom were pretty much up for whatever"
[lpRPG]/014 maga says, "she may be up for occasional sessions but I don't think she's super-keen on committing for a full campaign"
[lpRPG]/015 maga says, "so you probably shouldn't design around her too heavily"
[lpRPG]/016 lpsmith says, "If this was Skype you'd see my pencil erasing everything and giving up a few times."
[lpRPG]/017 lpsmith says, "It would be neat if she could make it."
[lpRPG]/018 lpsmith says, "And she makes it a good M:F ratio ;-)"
[lpRPG]/019 maga says, "I've said this before"
[lpRPG]/020 lpsmith says, "But, sure, I will add Los Vagos to the list."
[lpRPG]/021 lpsmith says, "Oh, I know."
[lpRPG]/022 lpsmith says, "(I'm not surprised; I know she's been waffling.  I was just hoping she would come 'round in the end.)"
[lpRPG]/023 maga says, "I'd think about coming up with some awesome guest-star roles"
[lpRPG]/024 maga says, "if we do Dresden Files Sigil than we can have monsters-of-the-week"
[lpRPG]/025 lpsmith says, "Any of these could be monster-of-the-week, really."
[lpRPG]/026 lpsmith says (to inky), "Also, Khazarica is partially your 'more politics' request, and partially a discussion I had with Sara, who basically pitched this exact idea (essentially describing the premise of B5 she thought we should imitate)"
[lpRPG]/027 maga says, "I guess my main objection to Planescape:Fallout is that the premise kind of ensures the PCs are all Clueless"
[lpRPG]/028 maga says, "and from more or less the same place"
[lpRPG]/029 maga says, "whereas a lot of the fun of Planescape is that it takes the 'exotic diverse party from all over the world' concept and turns it up to 11"
[lpRPG]/030 maga says, "*everyone* is a cursed half-tan'ari tiefling bard raised by exiled bariaurs on Mechanus"
[lpRPG]/031 maga says, "or equivalent"
[lpRPG]/032 lpsmith says, "Hmm."
[lpRPG]/033 vimes says (to maga), "funny thing is that in the last planescape campaign i was involved in, three people, sight unseen, came up with that character give or take the Mechanus part"
[lpRPG]/034 maga says, "well, yeah, tieflings are the coolest"
[lpRPG]/035 maga says, "they get to goth it up and sass people"
[lpRPG]/036 maga says (to lpsmith), "also, I started watching the Dresden Files largely at your prompting and was pleasantly surprised"
[lpRPG]/037 lpsmith says, "Well, I don't really know Planescape further than the CRPG, but making everyone clueless is great from my persepective as the GM, since I don't know much, and from the perspective of the newbies, who also don't know anything, so this gives them an in-game reason to be clueless."
[lpRPG]/038 lpsmith says, "Oh, is the show good?  I've only read the books."
[lpRPG]/039 lpsmith says, "(which are great)"
[lpRPG]/040 lpsmith says, "(in a pulp-y way)"
[lpRPG]/041 maga says, "it kind of follows the Whedon formula of a) not padding your episodes out with waffling and b) a steady stream of hot chicks"
[lpRPG]/042 lpsmith says, "Ha."
[lpRPG]/043 vimes says, "there's two taps, one for hot chicks and one for cold chicks"
[lpRPG]/044 vimes says, "but they're both labelled 'C'"
[lpRPG]/045 inky says, "hot running chicks"
[lpRPG]/046 vimes says (to inky), "they frequently are"
[lpRPG]/047 lpsmith says (to maga), "That said, if we did end up with Planescape: Fallout, and you wanted to be from outside the city, that'd be perfectly fine."
[lpRPG]/048 maga says, "good good"
[lpRPG]/049 maga says, "I will ready my gobby mascara, horns and rat tail"
[lpRPG]/050 lpsmith says, "Hee"
[lpRPG]/051 lpsmith says, "Survey and pitch page updated with Los Vagos."
[lpRPG]/052 maga says, "voted"
[lpRPG]/053 * Rob has joined the channel.
[lpRPG]/054 Rob says, "huh missed this"
[lpRPG]/055 Rob asks, "why don't you bb those links?"
[lpRPG]/056 Rob says, "then it's like keeping a blog journal of progress"
[lpRPG]/057 inky says, "blogress"
[lpRPG]/058 Rob says, "yeah and ew and hey yah"
[lpRPG]/059 inky says, "ha ha"
[lpRPG]/060 lpsmith says, "Sure, I can bb 'em."
[lpRPG]/061 Rob says, "what do you mean by 'live RPG'"
[lpRPG]/062 maga says, "the sort where everybody can grab chips from the same bowl"
[lpRPG]/063 Rob says, "oh ok right"
[lpRPG]/064 * NewsBoy hollers, "Extra! Extra! lpsmith has posted message 1, about 'Pitches!', to the bulletin board! You have a mind of your own, take it to the Dome."
[lpRPG]/065 Rob says, "I was thinking too far ahead and imagining a live-action RPG instead of a 'live, not on-MUD' ('analog, not digital') RPG"
[lpRPG]/066 Rob says, "heh I read the 'khazarica station' synopsis and sat back and thought, 'ah, it's like deep space nine', only to read the next paragraph"
Recapped 66 of 66 lines from misc/personal/lpRPG.
[baking] borowski says, "mmm"
<BrenBarn> I think everything happens for a reason, but sometimes only some people understand.
BrenBarn busta.
Rob says, "BB"
Rob says, "uh oh, I'm running out of battery power again"
BrenBarn says, "hi"
inky says, "well, you need a AA, not a BB"
Rob says, "this netbook used to run for six hours without straining"
Rob says, "now it needs constant attention"
Rob says, "guess I'll be back later"
Rob heads right on out.
</Rob> Find release from your cares. have a good time.
Seeya later.