Logfile from ifmud. ************************************************************************ ** ** ** Welcome to ifMUD! ** ** ** ************************************************************************ FAQ: http://www.allthingsjacq.com/ifMUDfaq/ IP: 66.114.68.227 MONKEY: Ook. If you... have an account Type "connect name password" to log in need an account Go to http://ifmud.port4000.com:4001/ and apply are just visiting Type "connect guest guest" to login as Guest want to see who's on Type "who" for a list of players online have problems Email markm - mark.musante@gmail.com TYPE connect, who, or quit: Login Succeeded ifMUD An interactive real time social network chat bulletin board quotebook url database with a parrot bot Copyright 1997-2007 by Loungent Technologies, a wholly owned subsidiary of rec.[arts|games].int-fiction; All rights reserved. Release 4 / Serial number 990908 / perlMUD v2.1z "The characters were mostly of the cardboard cutout variety. I wanted to punch everyone except the one Scottish guy." --Jearl NOTE: Whenever a fix or enhancement is in place, it will be announced on the channel '#mud-updates'. OTHER NOTE: There is a mailing list where people can say things like "hey, the mud's down, what's up with that?" In fact, since this is the only thing the list is used for, you should join it if you are interested in this subject. To join, go to http://groups.google.com/group/ifmud/ or talk to Steve. Robinson Manor A gracious, welcoming, airy space. Music drifts in from unseen speakers. A picture window on the southern wall provides a pleasant source of light and a sense of openness. You can see: teleporter, a picture window, comfy sofa, Jeopardy podium, buzzer1, buzzer2, buzzer3, Jota greets Rob Visible Exits: west, east that's me, mr busytown No new channels have been created since your last check. Adventurer's Lounge Candles on the wood-panelled walls create a comfortably dark atmosphere. Hand-drawn maps are taped to nearly every surface -- the walls, the ceiling, the trophy case in the corner. Seating is plentiful. A small storage closet is to the north. You can see: new laundry list, Birthday Calendar, magic laundry list, blank banner, Even Newer World Map, charset sampler, Automeeter, TheMasterTheorem player names, time zones, MUD Client Wish List Players: Alex, Jon, markm, Bishop, Dave, GDorn, jpt, Ryan, Jearl, Doug, schep, Jaybird, Grocible, maga, Touchy, Whizzard, baf, marc, Matthew, vimes, DorianX, vaporware, Allen, Fang, Gunther, Johnny, Jizaboz, Hjalfi, two-star, inky, Roger, Marktwo, Iain, josh_g, Jota, olethros, Psmith, zarf Visible Exits: north, west, southwest, southeast, up, east Rob comes right on in. Recapping 730 of 3793 lines from recent channels: [jobs]/07:18 marc says, "blech" [jobs]|07:19 marc says, "so we got it to the correct floor but can't tilt it to wheel it through" [quotations]|07:27 olethros | On the very small chance that they?re sincere, let me explain this verrrry slowly [greece]|07:29 olethros says, "oops, 77yo man commits suicide with a firewarm in the main square" [greece]|07:29 olethros says, "(in front of Parliament)" [greece]|07:30 olethros says, "suicide note: 'The dictatorial gvt of Tsolacoglu [1] has nullified every trace of my existence. I can find no other means of reaction other than a dignified end before I start scouring garbage to survive and before I become a burden to my children'" [footnotes]|07:30 olethros says, "[1] No, I have no idea who that is either" [footnotes]|07:31 olethros says, "It was the PM of greece during german occupation" [jobs]|07:31 Hjalfi asks, "Saw it in half?" [footnotes]|07:32 olethros says, "oh, this is an interesting footnote of history" [footnotes]|07:32 olethros says, "so, after the unsuccessful italian invasion, the german invasion managed to flank parts of the greek army" [footnotes]|07:33 olethros says, "one of the generals (Toslacoglu) decided to surrender, in defiance of the army chief" [footnotes]|07:34 olethros says, "it's debatable whether fighting on would have been better or worse, though" [footnotes]|07:35 olethros says, "in the end, he was sentenced to life in prison." [lounge]|07:35 Storme enters. [lounge]|07:35 Storme says, "hi all" [lounge]|07:35 olethros says, "speake of imminent bondage, it's Storme" [obama-rox]|07:39 olethros says, "yay, 'social darwinism'" [obama-rox]|07:40 olethros says, "who came up witht phrase" [obama-rox]|07:43 olethros says, "that's a nice set of bullet points he hit with his speech" [obama-rox]|07:44 olethros says, "but he shouldn't say 'this is math'. He should say 'this is as easy to see as 1 + 1 = 2'" [greece]|07:46 olethros | According to a report published on Thursday, 17 percent of [diesel fuel] samples were found to contain adulterated fuel. The most common way of tampering fuel was to mix heating oil, which is currently taxed less, with diesel [greece]|07:46 olethros says, "or sorry, _all_ fule." [greece]|07:47 olethros says, "1/3 of all diesel samples were adulterated" [greece]|07:48 olethros says, "the result is that the price of heating oil will grow from 0.65E/l (2010) to 1.6E/l" [greece]|07:48 olethros says, "finally, how to legalise your illegal house: http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_articles_wsite1_1_04/04/2012_436376 " [ganja]|07:50 Allen | Arizona Medical Marijuana Law: Gov. Jan Brewer Signs Measure To Ban Medical Marijuana On College Campuses [ganja]|07:52 olethros says, "oh, arizona you are so desperate for attention" [lounge]|07:57 Mary arrives in a puff of yellow smoke, which makes her cough. [lounge]|07:57 Mary says, "Hello, MUDfolk." [lounge]|07:59 Mary says (to Ivan), "the Toad They are all asleep." [lounge]|07:59 Mary says (to Ivan the Toad), "They are all asleep." [ryan]|08:00 Ryan says, "Last night my macbook overheated and now it won't boot." [ryan]|08:00 Mary exclaims, "Ai!" [ryan]|08:00 Ryan says, "I am really bummed out." [lounge]|08:10 Gunther has a complicated history with pants. [lounge]|08:10 Gunther says, "morn" [lounge]|08:10 Mary says, "Hello, Gunther." [politics]|08:13 Mary asks, "Etch-a-sketch?" [lounge]|08:27 Nitku leaves. [quotations]|08:28 Gunther | Grimrock has some of THE best puzzles we've encountered in a videogame, ever. Ever. They range from hidden switches to portals to pressure plates and more [quotations]|08:29 Gunther says, "HOLY SHIT move aside, Infocom and LucasArts, it turns out you've never been relevant" [lounge]|08:29 Matthew says, "Hey all." [quotations]|08:30 Storme says, "ugh" [quotations]|08:31 Gunther says, "(or, in fact, Portal)" [quotations]|08:33 Storme says, "or indeed almost any platformer I can think of from the 80s and 90s" [quotations]|08:33 Gunther says, "although let's not be unfair, perhaps they've only played one other game" [quotations]|08:34 Storme asks, "freecell?" [quotations]|08:34 Gunther says, "and that was, um, Custer's Revenge" [quotations]|08:34 Gunther says, "also good" [lounge]|08:34 Mary says, "Hi." [jobs]|08:37 marc says, "so it has concrete slabs on the base" [jobs]|08:38 marc says, "we abandoned it by the lift and ran off to lunch" [GirlGenius]|08:39 Jota says, "I call 'dream'." [GirlGenius]|08:40 Jota says, "(It's probably not the case, but someone might as well call it.)" [quotations]|08:49 K-Y says, "the solution is no more elements of games in other games" [quotations]|08:50 Jota throws out his idea for First Person Ludo. [quotations]|08:50 K-Y says, "all those 'RPG elements' and 'stories' are making people uppity" [quotations]|08:51 K-Y says, "irta First Person Limbo" [quotations]|08:51 K-Y says, "which is another good example" [quotations]|08:51 Gunther asks, "Ludo?" [quotations]|08:54 Jota says, "A board game. Similar to Pachisi, Sorry." [quotations]|08:54 Hjalfi says, "Ludo is notable for having no elements of skill to it whatsoever." [quotations]|08:54 Hjalfi says, "You roll a die, you move that many spaces. Repeat." [quotations]|08:55 Jota asks, "You don't even have multiple pawns to choose from?" [quotations]|08:55 Hjalfi says, "Just the one." [quotations]|08:55 Hjalfi says, "(At least, in the version I played.)" [quotations]|08:55 K-Y says, "for a second I wondered why you apologized" [quotations]|08:55 Hjalfi says, "For a genuinely interesting version, go find Senet, which is an ancient Egyptian version." [quotations]|08:55 Jota says (to Ky), "Ha ha." [quotations]|08:59 Gunther says (to K-Y), "me too" [lounge]|09:05 Jizaboz slithers into the lounge. [lounge]|09:05 Johnny insisted that the mobile hot-dog-on-a-bun did nothing wrong. [lounge]|09:06 Storme was a still life lived on mobile phones. [lounge]|09:06 * Storme has disconnected. [lounge]|09:06 Jizaboz floats away on a hoverboard. [lounge]|09:07 Jizaboz slithers into the lounge. [lounge]|09:08 Johnny says, "Hi Jizaboz" [lounge]|09:09 Jizaboz says, "Hey Johnny" [quotations]|09:11 Fang asks, "hidden switches *and* pressure plates?" [quotations]|09:11 Fang asks, "dare we go for hidden pressure plates?" [weather]|09:11 Mary says, "Eep. Tornados attack Dallas." [weather]|09:16 olethros says, "Attack of the Killer Tornadoes" [weather]|09:17 Mary says, "Astonishingly, no one died." [housing]|09:17 katre says, "ha ha" [housing]|09:17 katre says, "for a fraction of the cost of my house, I could own my own town in wyoming: http://www.auctionnetwork.com/live-auctions/own-your-own-income-producing-town/204050 " [weather]|09:18 Mary says, "Attack of the Injurious Tornadoes" [weather]|09:18 olethros says, "those videos of trucks hurled in the air are much more surreal than any of those seen in the latest CGI Terror Movies" [weather]|09:19 olethros says, "I maintain that they use a wrong gravitational acceleration for all those aCGI" [lounge]|09:19 Tale attributes it to the "finesse" Archer exhibited outside the Hall of Diplomacy. Finesse? I'll take "Things that do not describe Captain Archer" for $1000. [software]|09:19 Tale asks, "How easy is it to check which pages someone has isited if they deleted their browser history?" [lounge]|09:19 Tale says, "hi" [italy]|09:19 olethros | Umberto Bossi, leader of Italy's Northern League, is at the eye of a political and judicial storm after claims by prosecutors that taxpayers' money was used to pay for improvements to his house and for travel, dinners and hotel accommodation for his children. [software]|09:19 Gunther says, "..." [lounge]|09:19 Mary says, "I'm off." [lounge]|09:19 Mary says, "Ciao." [italy]|09:19 olethros says, "whaddya know, nazi asshole is also an asshole in other ways" [lounge]|09:20 Mary takes a plastic hamster ball from her pocket, steps into it, and rolls away. [lounge]|09:20 olethros says, "Tale" [italy]|09:20 olethros | Silvio Berlusconi leapt to his defence [software]|09:20 Tale says, "Hey, I know next to nothing about this stuff. Sorry if it's a stupid question." [italy]|09:20 olethros weeps [software]|09:20 Gunther says, "you could try to undelete the history files, if you knew where they were" [software]|09:22 katre asks, "is this a police forensics scenario, or a recover lost data scenario, or what?" [software]|09:22 Tale says, "I ask for a "friend" whose company is checking internet usage company wide" [software]|09:22 katre says, "if the company is doing that, they have a web filter on the gateway servers" [software]|09:22 Tale says, "Said "friend" might be mudding from work this very moment!" [software]|09:23 (from Johnny) Tale says, "I woke up in the hospital, and this IP address was tattooed on my chest. Upside-down." [software]|09:23 katre says, "and nothing you do locally, short of setting up a tor node as a proxy, will help" [software]|09:23 katre says, "always remember The Tale Of Devil" [software]|09:24 katre says, "actually, it was long enough ago I guess most mudders may not even remember devil" [software]|09:24 katre says, "geez I'm an old fart" [software]|09:24 Tale asks (of katre), "Which is?" [software]|09:24 Gunther says, "I totally do" [lounge]|09:24 Hjalfi enthusiastically mundanifies between spasms of personality-occultism and off-topic casual/social-leveraging. [software]|09:24 katre says (to tale), "he worked for a software company, and hated it, and talked on ifmud about how much he hated it and was looking for a better job" [software]|09:25 katre says, "and then they confronted him with pages and pages of printed out ifmud logs, because he was connecting directly from his work machine and not using ssh or ssl or anything, and they fired him" [software]|09:26 Tale says, "Hm, that's what I'm doing" [software]|09:26 Tale says, "Oops, then" [software]|09:26 katre asks, "then stop doing that. do you have a plover account?" [software]|09:26 katre says, "ssh to plover, and mud from there" [software]|09:26 Tale says, "Yeah" [software]|09:27 Tale says (to katre), "I have very limited access to stuff on this machine" [software]|09:27 Fang says, "I suppose it depends on how competent/intrusive you expect IT services to be" [software]|09:27 katre says, "your outbound connection from your employer needs to be encrypted, although that won't stop them from asking "What's this ssh connection to a server in the US that's open all day?"" [software]|09:27 Gunther says, ""my private e-mail"" [software]|09:28 Tale says, "I'm using the web client, so I was (up to today) always hoping that it'll get ,lost in the noise" [software]|09:28 katre says (to tale), "the web client goes over ssl" [videogames]|09:28 Gunther says, "new Suda51 game! http://andriasang.com/con0id/killer_is_dead_detailed/ " [software]|09:28 katre says, "so at least use that" [lounge]|09:28 Hjalfi is used to charge the ionized magnetic-bottle reaction chamber while confectionile material is injected to the bottle within a flouride suspension. [software]|09:28 Tale says, "Yay" [software]|09:29 katre says, "actually, hm" [software]|09:29 (from Johnny) Tale says, "Yay" [software]|09:29 katre says, "I thought we had it working" [software]|09:29 katre says, "but I seem to be wrong" [software]|09:29 katre says, "ask vimes" [software]|09:29 (from Tale) Thalia says, "This conversation is over" [software]|09:30 (from Gunther) Thalia says, "Who's laughing now, bitch" [myth]|09:30 Gunther asks, "hmm, when Homer asks the Muse to sing, which does he mean?" [myth]|09:31 Gunther says, "given that there are between 3 and 10 depending" [housing]|09:32 Grocible says, "sounds good" [housing]|09:32 Grocible says, "you could just telecommute" [videogames]|09:33 K-Y says, "man" [adventures]|09:38 Johnny | Dave Gilbert Hm. @rockpapershot - you broke the AGS forum! [adventures]|09:38 Johnny says, "Damn you." [questionablecontent]|09:46 katre says, "I would say "bah, character development" but it's QC" [gender]|09:50 Allen | The lawyer of a man charged with rape has requested permission to bring his client's wife to court, claiming she is so beautiful that he has no need for other women. [gender]|09:51 Fang says, "that's um, one hell of an argument" [gender]|09:52 Fang says, "heh" [gender]|09:52 Fang says, "ilac" [gender]|09:52 (from vimes) :| The lawyer says, "Why, since I started sleeping with her, I haven't wanted to sleep with /my/ wife." [gender]|09:53 Fang says, "I guess we should start complimenting new husbands by 'your wife is so beautiful, you can rape anyone!'" [lounge]|09:54 Tale is fired from breathing. [lounge]|09:54 * Tale has disconnected. [gender]|09:56 vimes says, "Yo mama so fat, your daddy got sentenced for sixteen charges of rape just for marrying her." [gender]|09:57 Fang asks, "so how about doing, say, a 10 iteration IEM?" [gender]|09:57 Fang says, "ilac" [adventures]|10:04 Johnny says, "There's a person on the AGS blog arguing in comments 'there is only 1 way to save pnc games forever, "multiplayer"'" [adventures]|10:04 Johnny says, "Well, not arguing. Putting forth." [adventures]|10:05 vimes says, "sounds like an argument looking for a second party to me" [adventures]|10:06 (from Johnny) * Searching for match... [lounge]|10:07 * Marktwo has disconnected. [lounge]|10:07 * Marktwo has connected. [adventures]|10:07 vimes says, "i mean, i agree wholeheartedly - you should have a free-to-play multiplayer model with trivialized gameplay to provide you with comfortable long-term profits to support your rich single-player experience development" [adventures]|10:11 Gunther says, "in other news, guncho is now $.10 per line of code" [adventures]|10:12 Fang asks, "pnc?" [adventures]|10:13 Fang asks, "point and click?" [adventures]|10:14 vimes says, "that seems more likely than 'PC'n'Console'" [adventures]|10:14 vimes says, "also, Ultima Online" [adventures]|10:16 Johnny | http://ags-ssh.blogspot.com/2012/04/state-of-ags-forums.html?showComment=1333346249391#c7278222970439146558 [adventures]|10:17 Johnny says, "They're saying that multiplayer is what gamers want today." [adventures]|10:17 Gunther says, "There is exactly one multiplayer game worth playing" [adventures]|10:17 (from Johnny) Gunther says, "Tag." [adventures]|10:17 vimes | If i ever get the support I need to finish my game, I'll spend a few month's creating a nice opensource multiplayer template that even the newbiest game developers can use.I just need a reason to feel thankful towards the ags community. [adventures]|10:17 Gunther says, "Journey" [food]|10:17 maga says, "more scary concepts in American cuisine: Irish nachos" [adventures]|10:18 Fang says, "werew..." [adventures]|10:18 Gunther says (to vimes), " http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/691054711/pnclol_a_point__n__click_online_engine/ " [adventures]|10:18 vimes asks, "Is it French Toast?" [adventures]|10:19 vimes says (to gunther), "darn, 404" [adventures]|10:19 Gunther says, "and here I thought the numbers and name gave it away" [adventures]|10:19 vimes says, "gotta keep my hopes up" [videogames]|10:19 Gunther says, "meanwhile, 25 minute review of Legend of Grimrock: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzIiXx-8BHc " [adventures]|10:20 vimes says, "sometimes absurd fake urls turn out to be absurd real urls" [adventures]|10:20 Gunther says, "PS the full version of AAS supports multiplayer" [adventures]|10:20 Gunther says, "as in more than one person can play the same game!" [adventures]|10:21 Johnny | http://sarien.net/ [adventures]|10:21 Gunther says (to Johnny), "that's more than one person playing the same game simultaneously" [adventures]|10:21 Fang says, "I dunno, I think things like clubfloyd suggest an interesting way forward" [adventures]|10:21 Johnny | You play your own singleplayer game. Other players do the same, and when you are in the same location, you can see and talk to eachother. Note that the game status such as doors and events are not shared. [adventures]|10:21 Fang says, "also, LPs" [adventures]|10:22 Fang says, "I don't think these are going to be the only game in town, but it does seem like group plays of single player games are a cool idea" [adventures]|10:22 Gunther says (to Johnny), "if only that talk didn't make youtube comments look like Sartre" [adventures]|10:24 Johnny says, "They should go all Demon's Souls-y and let you render other players's games unwinnable." [adventures]|10:27 Gunther says, " http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2886637 " [adventures]|10:29 Fang says, "ugh, fuck those people" [adventures]|10:31 Gunther says, "yes" [adventures]|10:32 Johnny says, "This is kind of buggy. I got lingering Graham corpses, and once upon reloading a ghost Graham drowned in the grass." [ads]|10:39 Matthew asks, "Gah. Why the hell is a dictionary website auto-playing video ads you can't mute?!?" [ads]|10:39 Johnny says, "Because you need to know how to use 'which' and 'what'." [ads]|10:40 Matthew says (to Johnny), "But this was an ad for something completely unrelated to words." [ads]|10:41 Johnny asks, "Because you don't have Flashblock installed?" [ads]|10:41 Matthew says, "NOT THE POINT." [videogames]|10:47 Gunther says, "looks like everyone got their Grimrock reviews done at the same time. Now RPS." [shadowrun]|10:50 * NewsBoy hollers, "Extra! Extra! katre has posted message 46, about 'SR Videogame Kickstarter', to the bulletin board! When is a jar not a jar?" [shadowrun]|10:50 Gunther says, "hey, Weisman" [shadowrun]|10:50 katre says, "yeah" [shadowrun]|10:51 Gunther says, "I last saw him sitting alone at a table in Essen during signing hour" [shadowrun]|10:51 katre says, "aww" [shadowrun]|10:51 Gunther says, "his last game having flopped like a fish out of water" [shadowrun]|10:51 Gunther says, "(Arcane Legions)" [lounge]|10:56 boucher enters the lounge. [lounge]|10:56 (From boucher) Alex says (to boucher), "Awwwk! Word on the street is that you are boucher, and I claim my five cork nuts!" [shadowrun]|10:57 katre says, "oh, sweet, running the clock back to the 2050s and SR1" [lounge]|10:57 boucher says, "Hello all" [lounge]|10:57 Gunther says, "re-boucher" [politics]|10:57 Matthew says, "So assuming Romney is the GOP nominee, I think I'm going to have to not watch any debates until after the election, and maybe watch no TV at all. Listening to him and Obama endlessly bloviate would, I think, kill me." [politics]|10:58 Gunther says, "not unlikely" [politics]|10:58 Gunther says (to Matthew), "but I have a tip for you!" [politics]|10:58 Jizaboz says, "Yeah. I'm already sick of looking at him or listening to him." [politics]|10:58 Matthew says, "Either that or I would be crushed under all the condescension." [politics]|10:58 Gunther says (to Matthew), "memorize this word: "Phrasendrescher"" [politics]|10:58 Matthew says, "Either way, ugh." [politics]|10:58 Gunther says, "and use it whenever you can" [politics]|10:58 Matthew says (to Jizaboz), "I already can't listen to Obama." [politics]|10:59 Johnny says, "I would @emit 'Mitt cries!', but it wouldn't be believable." [politics]|10:59 Matthew says (to Jizaboz), "I was hoping the GOP nominee would at least be someone I wouldn't have to mute. But it doesn't look that way." [politics]|10:59 Matthew asks (of Gunther), "Dare I ask what it means?" [politics]|10:59 Jizaboz says (to Matthew), "Exactly" [politics]|10:59 Gunther says, "phrasemonger" [politics]|10:59 Matthew says, "That's a good one." [politics]|10:59 Gunther says, "ie someone who talks a lot and doesn't back it up" [politics]|10:59 Gunther says, "it refers to both" [politics]|10:59 Gunther says, "hence, useful!" [politics]|10:59 Matthew says (to Gunther), "But people might think I'm saying Fran Drescher, which would be bad/confusing." [politics]|11:00 Gunther says, "well, she is also unbearable and grating" [politics]|11:00 Matthew says (to Gunther), "At this point, I would rather listen to her babble about economic policy than either Romney or Obama." [politics]|11:01 Gunther says, "whenever I hear her name I think of annoying laugh lady from Friends" [politics]|11:01 Matthew says (to Gunther), "Similar, yeah." [politics]|11:01 Matthew says, "(I actually like Fran Drescher, by the way.)" [politics]|11:01 Matthew says, "I may be anti-Romney and anti-Obama, but I'm not anti-Drescher." [politics]|11:02 Gunther says, "as long as you are aware it means "someone who hits something"" [lounge]|11:03 Dave says, "morning" [tasteless]|11:03 Gunther | The president of Somalia's Olympic committee and the head of the national soccer federation were killed in a suicide bomb blast Wednesday [tasteless]|11:03 Gunther says, "so now they're qualified for the suicide bomblympics" [tasteless]|11:06 Fang says, "poor somalia" [tasteless]|11:08 Gunther says, "if only all the lolbertarians went there" [tasteless]|11:09 Fang says, "I wonder which countries are worse than somalia" [tasteless]|11:09 Fang says, "I mean, if forced to pick, I'd still probably prefer North korea, say, to Somalia" [tasteless]|11:09 Gunther says, "oh man, I don't think I would" [tasteless]|11:10 Gunther says, "I might choose NK over Zimbabwe or Switzerland" [tasteless]|11:10 Fang says, "well, if you are happy being a quisling advocate of the Juche, you might be able to live quite pleasantly in Somalia" [tasteless]|11:10 Matthew asks (of Gunther), "Yes, but what about Switzerbabwe?" [tasteless]|11:11 Fang says, "er, north korea" [tasteless]|11:11 Gunther says (to Matthew), "I would steal a nuke and turn it into a lake of glass" [videogames]|11:13 Gunther says, "Suda51 is at PAX East. FfffffFFFFFFFFuuuUUUUUUU" [videogames]|11:14 K-Y says, "he keeps busy" [videogames]|11:14 K-Y says, "it's almost as though he were seven people" [videogames]|11:15 Gunther asks, "or... 51?" [videogames]|11:15 Fang says, "maybe they replace the sudas once they get worn out" [TV]|11:17 Dave says, "every time I see the new Dish commercial when they're yelling The Hopper!, it makes me think of ddyte" [tasteless]|11:18 Dave says (to gunther), "remind us not to lend you any nukes" [tasteless]|11:19 Gunther says, "that should only be a problem if Switzerbabwe comes into being" [tasteless]|11:19 Gunther says, "speaking of, I wonder how markm is doing over therr" [tasteless]|11:19 Gunther says, "there" [lounge]|11:21 Rob comes right on in. [lounge]|11:21 Rob says, "whuzzum" [videogames]|11:22 Rob asks, "who's seven people?" [videogames]|11:22 Rob says, "also, *which* seven people" [kids]|11:22 Dave says, "so really awful news" [kids]|11:23 Dave says, "Penny's best friend (they're super close) (12 years old) just went through a battery of cancer tests surrounding her thyroid)" [MacOS]|11:23 Rob says, "what is this retina stuff? really-high-res screen? or does it have some other magic trick it does" [kids]|11:23 katre says, "aw geez" [kids]|11:23 Dave says, "no results yet, but there multiple growths, they did a biopsy, took blood from her neck 4 times, ultrasound" [kids]|11:23 Rob says, "aw" [kids]|11:24 Dave says, "she has to have her thyroid removed" [kids]|11:24 Rob says, "what a lot for a 12 year old to go through" [kids]|11:24 Dave says, "no word on the results, but this can't be good" [kids]|11:24 Dave says, "and if it goes badly, Penny will be devistated" [kids]|11:25 Dave says, "these two are so close I'd half expected them to be life-long friends" [kids]|11:25 Rob says, "I always wonder whether there was something in the environment she was exposed to" [kids]|11:25 vimes says, "oh man, aie" [kids]|11:25 Dave says, "her family travels a lot" [MacOS]|11:25 vimes says, "high resolution, plus this pixel doubling thing that makes it inconvenient to program for" [MacOS]|11:25 Rob asks, "makes the math tedious?" [MacOS]|11:26 Rob says, "s/math/algorithms/somethin'" [MacOS]|11:27 vimes says, "yeah, you have to do everything as though it's the non-retina resolution but provide both retina and non-retina scaled pictures, and so forth" [MacOS]|11:27 Rob says, "sometimes I wish they'd put the brakes on higher-and-higher resolution as a goal to chase, pick one resolution that's pretty good, and then just improve that technology every year, at that resolution" [MacOS]|11:27 Rob says, "I guess they sort of do" [MacOS]|11:27 Rob says (to vimes), "that sort of hoop jumping sounds very Apple" [MacOS]|11:28 Rob says, "they've been doing that trick for years every OS update" [lounge]|11:29 two-star sought a woman and found a monkey. Well, it happens. [lounge]|11:29 two-star says, "Morning, Mud-gentown" [lounge]|11:32 Rob says, "Mudgental Morning to Thee, Too" [lounge]|11:33 Jizaboz says, "Hey Rob, 2-star" [lounge]|11:46 olethros has ordered three mega-generators to be installed in his boathouse. [tasteless]|11:48 boucher says, "Belatedly, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Failed_state#2011 is somewhat relevant." [tasteless]|11:49 boucher says, "It doesn't apply to NK, since the government there is strong, and therefore, by definition, it's not a 'failed state', but that might work for your hypothetical, anyhow." [tasteless]|11:50 two-star asks, "Is the European Union a failed state?" [tasteless]|11:51 boucher says, "Since even if you live in a corrupt country, there's nothing in the question to say thst you're not one of the privileged few who benefit. With general anarchy and a lack of centralized control, there's no safety for anyone." [Boston]|11:51 katre tries to remember enough Boston geography to figure out where Davis Square Theater is [Boston]|11:51 katre says, "I mean, obviously it's in Davis Square" [Boston]|11:52 katre looks at a map to figure out where Davis Square is relative to places he can possibly find [tasteless]|11:53 boucher says (to two-star), "I think a Failed State, by necessity, needs to have had any control or authority in the first place." [videogames]|11:53 Gunther says, "omfg Kinect Star Wars" [tasteless]|11:53 Fang says, "woo, somalia number 1" [videogames]|11:54 Gunther says, "OMFG" [videogames]|11:54 Hjalfi asks, "Only just seen the videos?" [videogames]|11:55 Gunther says, "this... is... the absolute... nadir... of... existence." [Boston]|11:55 katre says, "thinking about heading up on the weekend of the 28th for the Jim's Big Ego new CD release show" [Boston]|11:55 katre says, "except I foolishly pre-ordered it online so I can't buy a copy at the show and have them sign it" [videogames]|11:55 Hjalfi | https://plus.google.com/108436424977797620609/posts/4sFgJi6oBMq [videogames]|11:55 Gunther says, " http://www.giantbomb.com/quick-look-kinect-star-wars/17-5841/ " [videogames]|11:56 Hjalfi says, "There seem to be three on Youtube (links in there); 'This my ship', 'I'm Han Solo', 'It's fun to be / in the Empire today'." [lounge]|11:56 inky is famous for something besides goat cheese. [lounge]|11:56 inky says, "good morning" [videogames]|11:56 Hjalfi says, "Oh, you mean the *rest* of the game. Pff. Who cares about that. It's the dance game that's the awesome bit." [lounge]|11:56 vimes says, "hark! an inky!" [videogames]|11:56 Gunther says, "The Giantbomb guys are right now dancing to "I'm a princess in a battle, baby, you gotta come and join the Rebel way, honey"" [lounge]|11:56 inky says, "I am totally breaking from yonder window" [food]|11:57 katre says (to inky), "it's like your connect is about my marriage" [videogames]|11:57 Gunther says, "man, this changes everything" [food]|11:57 inky says, "hee hee" [videogames]|11:57 Gunther says, "I am now safe in the knowledge that *there will never be anything worse than this* ever" [food]|11:57 katre says, "(speaking of which, happy anniversary to me!)" [food]|11:57 inky says, "hooray!" [food]|11:57 inky says, "also, I am just looking at my mail and it's got Subject: Re: [Trust] The horrific practice of food spherification" [angst]|11:57 katre says, "I started off my anniversary today in a great way, by losing my wedding ring" [angst]|11:58 katre says, "after tearing up the house and figuring it must be on my desk at work (I take it off to eat messy food), I was kinda sad" [angst]|11:58 katre says, "until duchess admitted she'd found it and was just waiting for me to admit I'd lost it on our anniversary" [angst]|11:58 inky says, "ha ha" [angst]|11:59 inky says, "I know they say the relationship gets deeper over the years but I didn't realize they meant in terms of psychological warfare" [angst]|11:59 schep says, "man. Happy anniversary, though!" [angst]|11:59 katre says (to schep), "thanks!" [food]|11:59 Gunther asks, "I'm sorry, "horrific"?" [angst]|11:59 katre says (to inky), "you know how they say to keep your friends close and your enemies closer? that's what marriage is all about" [angst]|12:00 inky says, "hee hee hee" [food]|12:00 Johnny says, "Hmm. Pizzasphere." [food]|12:00 Johnny says, "A spherical chicken might be horrific." [politics]|12:01 Gunther | Whooping Cough Cases Reaching Record Levels In Washington [politics]|12:01 Gunther says, "that's political speeches, but I see why the confusion" [lounge]|12:03 zaphod goes home. [lounge]|12:03 Rob moseys right on out. [Sierra]|12:04 * NewsBoy hollers, "Extra! Extra! Gunther has posted message 62, about 'Jane Jensen kickstarter', to the bulletin board! Beetle boop!" [Sierra]|12:06 Gunther says, "wow" [Sierra]|12:06 Gunther | Jane is known for games with complex, dark plotlines ala Dan Brown [Sierra]|12:06 Gunther says, "way to undersell yourself" [Sierra]|12:06 Gunther says, "also way to call Dan Brown a girl" [tech]|12:07 Hjalfi says, "Shiny new server now getting shipped: http://liliputing.com/2012/03/mele-a1000-is-a-70-hackable-linux-friendly-arm-based-pc.html " [lounge]|12:09 Roger is sooooooo stuck on the ice floes! [lounge]|12:09 Roger says, "Ahoy" [jobs]|12:15 Matthew says, "So I'm shooting some videos tomorrow, and they want me to come up with TelePrompTer scripts." [jobs]|12:15 Matthew exclaims, "I do not approve!!!" [jobs]|12:16 vimes asks, "for you or for other people?" [wikipedia]|12:16 schep says, "heh. there's an Old English wikipedia" [jobs]|12:16 Matthew says, "For me." [jobs]|12:16 inky says, "hmm" [jobs]|12:16 Johnny says, "Make it a musical." [jobs]|12:16 Roger says, "Dictate the teleprompt scripts for full ironic effect" [jobs]|12:16 inky says, "I wonder if teleprompters are helpful or harmful for amateurs doing short videos" [jobs]|12:16 vimes says, "i recommend self-affirmation statements, bad jokes, and purple prose" [jobs]|12:17 Matthew says (to inky), "Well, I'm not really an amateur, to start with." [jobs]|12:17 Matthew says (to inky), "But I would think they would be more harmful." [jobs]|12:17 Johnny says, "Sometimes you see the eyes moving." [jobs]|12:17 Roger says, "Forsooth, what light through yonder window breaks? 'Tis an SSD, made by Sun." [jobs]|12:18 Matthew says, "Ha ha." [jobs]|12:19 Roger says, "Run through Swedish Chef translation first" [UK]|12:19 Hjalfi asks, "What's the closest actual hill (like, a proper one suitable for walking up) to London?" [jobs]|12:19 Matthew says, "Good thing I'm reviewing the HP Bork." [lounge]|12:20 Marktwo goes home. [lounge]|12:20 * Marktwo has disconnected. [UK]|12:20 Hjalfi says, "The Chilterns are pleasant, but not actually *high*." [UK]|12:20 Hjalfi says, "The Peak District is rather a long way away." [jobs]|12:20 vimes says, "ha ha" [jobs]|12:20 inky says, "this device is totally borken" [UK]|12:20 Roger says, "I keep hearing about that Salisbury Hill" [jobs]|12:21 vimes says, "Furst-a we take-a da HP, bork bork bork..." [jobs]|12:21 Gunther says, "Bork." [jobs]|12:21 Gunther says, "Seriously." [jobs]|12:21 Roger says, "Anyway you could probably just ignore the prompter if you feel confident" [jobs]|12:21 Matthew says, "I just sent our video guy an e-mail about that." [jobs]|12:21 Gunther says, "Let me guess, the other drives are called Pwnd and Noob." [jobs]|12:21 Roger says, "Like the good karaoke people do" [UK]|12:21 Hjalfi says, "191m. Mmm. I can do better." [UK]|12:22 Roger asks, "Where's that hill from that guy who went up that hill and came down the mountain?" [UK]|12:22 Gunther says, "walk up the Monument" [lounge]|12:22 Marktwo comes in firing shots at someone in baf's posse and inadvertently shoots Bishop. Why violence in streets? [lounge]|12:24 boucher goes home. [videogames]|12:25 Gunther says, "ZP" [quotations]|12:25 Matthew says, "Ha ha:" [quotations]|12:25 Matthew | But really, doesn't he have an aide who can tell him that the symbol of America is not the bald ego? [quotations]|12:27 Roger says, "zing" [UK]|12:28 Roger says, "Hunh: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Hills_of_London " [lounge]|12:29 Rob comes right on in. [lounge]|12:29 Rob says, "whubble" [lounge]|12:30 Matthew says, "Mr. Robbytown." [lounge]|12:30 Rob says, "Matthewville" [UK]|12:30 Hjalfi says, "I'm looking for somewhere nice to go on Friday." [happy]|12:30 Rob says, "the channel topic makes me happy" [happy]|12:30 Rob says, "that about says it all" [lounge]|12:30 Matthew says (to Rob), "I can't stop laughing about your connectmsg." [happy]|12:30 inky says, "I feel happy / and slightly slappy" [happy]|12:30 Rob says, "channel pope seems ironic though" [happy]|12:31 Roger says, "Reminds me of that "Come on, get happy!" song" [lounge]|12:31 Rob says, "am I still mr busytown or did I change it recently and forget" [lounge]|12:31 Matthew says, "You're still mr busytown." [happy]|12:31 Rob says, "I'm so happy I've been thinking of rhyming lyrics this morning" [lounge]|12:31 Rob says, "ok" [happy]|12:31 Rob says, "yeah I think the lyrics I was writing were semi set to that tune" [happy]|12:31 Rob says, "to that tune's rhythm, maybe more than melody" [happy]|12:32 Gunther says, "i am ha, you are ppy, come on and, dance with me" [happy]|12:32 Roger says, "Also that "I like sunshine and lollipops and etc etc" song" [happy]|12:32 Rob says, "I have to admit that I am not used to feeling happy" [happy]|12:32 Roger says, "Hrm most of these songs are Viagra commercials now" [happy]|12:32 Roger says, "It's not every day you survive a tornado" [happy]|12:32 Rob says, "and I'm a little worried I'll feel down tomorrow, but right now I'm surfin' the happy wave" [happy]|12:32 inky says (to Roger), "ha ha" [happy]|12:32 Rob says, "austin recently got a 24-hour comedy radio channel" [happy]|12:33 Rob says, "they play 30 second bits of stand-up comedians" [happy]|12:33 Matthew says, "WLAF, I hope it's called." [happy]|12:33 Rob says, "so you get good ones and mediocre ones" [happy]|12:33 Rob says, "my favorite stand-up material is stuff that's obviously based on some truth, some observation of life stuff, and my least favorite is just shit they made up to be jokes" [lounge]|12:33 Nameless arrives from the east. [radio]|12:34 Matthew says, "Also, I really hope there's a radio station somewhere in the West called KTHX." [happy]|12:34 Rob says, "but when I listened this morning, it was all good stuff for a solid half hour" [lounge]|12:34 Nameless says, ""Good afternoon!"" [happy]|12:34 Rob says, "which left me even more cheered up than I started" [happy]|12:34 Rob says, "but it felt like I was rollin' dice" [lounge]|12:34 Nameless says, "I guess I don't need to add my own quotation marks..." [joke]|12:34 Roger says, "Oh I heard something that made me laugh on the radio -- a piece of a stand-up routine" [joke]|12:35 Roger says, ""So they asked me which celebrity, living or dead, I would sleep with if I could."" [happy]|12:35 Rob says, "if it had been a bunch of bummer comedians in a row I would have switched to classical and hoped they were playing bach or mozart" [joke]|12:35 Roger says, ""So I said, hunh... Britney Spears."" [joke]|12:35 Roger says, ""And... dead, I guess."" [radio]|12:35 schep says, "Reno, NV" [lounge]|12:35 Rob asks, "what time zone are you in?" [joke]|12:35 Matthew says, "Ha ha ha." [joke]|12:35 Rob says, "ha ha" [joke]|12:35 inky says, "ha ha" [joke]|12:35 Rob says, "actually hee hee some more" [joke]|12:35 Matthew says, "Yeah, that's really funny." [joke]|12:35 Rob says, "yay" [joke]|12:36 Rob says, "excellent deployment of 'I guess'" [lounge]|12:36 Nameless says, "Eastern..." [joke]|12:36 Rob says, "which as you all know is one of my signature lines" [joke]|12:36 Matthew says, "I guess." [joke]|12:36 Gunther says, "that's pretty good" [lounge]|12:36 Nameless asks, "So this is a chat room for text adventure fans?" [lounge]|12:36 Rob says, "yep" [lounge]|12:36 Nameless exclaims, "Great!" [lounge]|12:37 Rob says, "it's not all we talk about, but it's the usual avenue for someone finding the place" [lounge]|12:37 Nameless asks, "Did anyone ever play them on BBSes back in the day?" [lounge]|12:37 Rob says, "kind of like discovering a secret thing hidden in a place on the internet, which is something IF players tend to be good at" [lounge]|12:37 Rob says, "I did" [lounge]|12:37 Nameless says, "Anyone here, I mean. I know people did because I did :)" [lounge]|12:38 Rob says, "way back to almost 1984" [lounge]|12:38 inky says, "I didn't realize text adventures were available on bbses except that one bbs that was on the internet" [lounge]|12:38 Rob says, "acoustic modem to this great local bbs" [lounge]|12:38 Rob says, "however, it soon got swamped because people figured out you could go there to play infocom games" [lounge]|12:38 Nameless says, "No, I played them on this one called Endless BBS" [lounge]|12:38 Nameless says, "It had Adventure and a few others" [lounge]|12:38 Rob says, "it would time you out after 45 minutes or an hour and you had to be quick to call back if you wanted to keep playing" [lounge]|12:39 Nameless says, "I just ported one of them to Inform! I was hoping some folks here could help test it for me." [lounge]|12:39 Rob says, "played Starcross with my brother that way" [lounge]|12:39 Rob says, "those were the days" [lounge]|12:39 Hjalfi says, "Now would be an excellent time to mention Guncho." [lounge]|12:39 inky says, "oh yeah, Guncho" [lounge]|12:39 Nameless asks, "What is Guncho?" [lounge]|12:39 Alex says (to Nameless), "Awwwk! Word on the street is that Guncho is a multiplayer IF system based on Inform 7: see http://www.guncho.com ." [lounge]|12:39 inky asks, "what game did you port to Inform?" [lounge]|12:40 Nameless says, "It was one of the old BBS games - I maintained the code for it back in the '80s, and I've hung onto it through many hard drives :)" [way-secret]|12:40 Rob says, "when was the last time you looked at that fight scene stuff with the circles and moving around in steps thing we talked about once upon a whenever it was" [lounge]|12:40 Nameless says, "It was called Endless Quest, then Nameless Quest" [lounge]|12:41 Nameless says, "(hence my handle)" [way-secret]|12:41 inky says, "actually I came up with something I am pretty happy for that although I didn't work out all the details" [way-secret]|12:41 Rob says, "I keep thinking two things" [way-secret]|12:41 inky asks, "oh yeah?" [way-secret]|12:41 Rob says, "one, that it seems like the underlying mechanism of it could work for programming conversations as well as fight scenes" [way-secret]|12:42 Rob says, "giving kind of a structure to whatever you'd fill in as a writer for a convo going this way or that, and with defensive and offensive attitudes" [way-secret]|12:42 Rob says, "I still think about the PGW game when I think about this stuff" [newchannel]|12:43 Roger says, "Did we get a 3D-printing channel? I can't remember now." [lounge]|12:43 Nameless exclaims, "Anyway, my lunch break's almost over -- nice to meet you!" [lounge]|12:43 Nameless goes home. [lounge]|12:43 Roger says, "That was pretty painless." [way-secret]|12:43 inky says, "yeah totally" [lounge]|12:43 Iain hasn't been here since April, I'm starting to get worried. [lounge]|12:43 Iain says, "Afternoon all." [lounge]|12:43 vimes says, "It's pretty awesome to have a newbie show up with a /completed/ project." [urls]|12:43 Roger says, "Anyway, apropos of 3D printing:" [urls]|12:43 Roger | http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:19733 [way-secret]|12:44 Rob says, "the second thing is that if there is some sort of #Gathering it'd be fun to present the idea to people. 'got something I'm working on that's interesting...' ish" [urls]|12:44 inky says, "hee hee" [way-secret]|12:44 inky says, "it could use a demo maybe" [way-secret]|12:45 Rob says, "one of the scenes from PGW that stays with me is some scene with Bertie and a burly, red-faced rugby-sized bird photographer" [urls]|12:45 vimes says, "ha ha awesome" [way-secret]|12:45 Rob says, "maybe someone who's been ordered to do a bit of relaxing in the country to calm his high blood pressure" [way-secret]|12:45 Rob says, "and bertie keeps messing up his shot of the rare speckled honeythumper or whatever it was" [way-secret]|12:45 Rob says, "so if you imagine having a conversation with this guy, there's a lot of attitude he's projecting" [urls]|12:46 Matthew says, "Wow." [way-secret]|12:46 Rob says, "and it's almost like a fight scene" [Windows]|12:46 Dave says, "love a good bluescreen" [way-secret]|12:46 Rob says, "it's a fight to keep him from getting in a fight with you" [Windows]|12:46 vimes says, "invigorating and refreshing" [way-secret]|12:47 inky says, "yeah" [way-secret]|12:47 Rob says, "if you want to trade papers I've got this dingus I've been working on and writing up" [way-secret]|12:47 inky says, "I was thinking it might be better to think of this as modelling a 'negotiation' instead of a 'conversation'" [way-secret]|12:47 inky asks, "oh yeah?" [way-secret]|12:47 Rob says, "yeah, that sounds like a good supercategory" [TV]|12:47 Dave says, "as much as I enjoy the convenience of my little AppleTV box, the UI is pretty bad" [way-secret]|12:48 Rob says, "yeah just some stuff that I made myself write down finally" [TV]|12:48 Dave says, "if you're watching a season of a show, the controls to play the "next" episode are terrible" [way-secret]|12:48 Rob says, "it stalled out after I wrote something fairly substantial in january" [way-secret]|12:48 inky asks, "is this an IF game or something else?" [way-secret]|12:49 Rob says, "I could send you a pdf of what it is and maybe it will inspire you to write up your negotiation project" [way-secret]|12:49 Rob says, "nah, it's IF theory/IF tech/IF philosophy" [way-secret]|12:49 inky says, "that is my favorite stuff" [way-secret]|12:49 Rob says, "since as you know I am a thoughtful fellow" [way-secret]|12:50 inky says, "(cut to Rob sitting by fire, smoking pipe with one hand and stroking chin with other)" [way-secret]|12:50 Rob says, "I have to fiddle around with some ethernet cables first but I'll throw you an email attachment" [way-secret]|12:50 Rob says, "exactly" [way-secret]|12:50 inky says, "excellent" [way-secret]|12:50 Rob says, "also, that's what you look like too, minus the pipe" [way-secret]|12:50 inky says, "hee hee" [writing]|12:51 Rob says, "there's a story idea I've had around in my head for a few years" [writing]|12:52 Rob says, "this morning I started writing a bit of it down for the first time" [writing]|12:52 Roger says, "Woo" [writing]|12:52 Matthew says, "Good going." [writing]|12:52 Rob says, "it has the potential to be a very cool thing" [writing]|12:52 inky asks, "does that mean it can turn into a giant robot?" [writing]|12:53 Rob says, "I think more than I realized until I actually saw it as words on paper, in the particular storytelling voice I chose" [writing]|12:53 Rob says, "yes" [writing]|12:53 Rob says, "if you picture the marketplace as a giant robot arena" [writing]|12:53 inky says, "hee hee" [writing]|12:53 Rob says, "where only the mightiest robots survive" [writing]|12:53 Rob says, "I think it is a really hot idea" [writing]|12:54 Rob says, "I haven't been this confident about one of my ideas in a long time" [writing]|12:54 Roger asks, "Is this a prose story or an illustrated story?" [writing]|12:54 Rob says, "I think it might be the kind of thing that has chapter illustrations" [writing]|12:55 Rob says, "what I really need is a writing routine, so that I can make myself actually do it" [writing]|12:56 Rob says, "I was writing prose this morning, but leaving whitespace as if I could imagine illustrations going there" [writing]|12:56 Matthew says (to Rob), "Every day you can log onto the MUD and then we can say to you 'Rob go write your story.'" [writing]|12:56 Rob says, "having the ability to be a writer-illustrator may finally pay off" [writing]|12:56 Gunther says, "It's called "Dan Brown Presents: I Guess: A Busytown Novel: A Novel by J. Robinson Wheeler and Tom Clancy"" [writing]|12:56 Rob says, "hehh" [lounge]|12:56 Iain asks, "Rarr, Virgin trains, did I really pay money for your crappy wifi?" [writing]|12:57 Matthew says (to Gunther), "You forgot New York Times' Best Selling Author Robert Ludlam's at the beginning." [writing]|12:57 Gunther says, "more like LudLAME" [writing]|12:57 Rob says, "I want to relax and have fun writing it, and pretend it's like when I was a kid first writing stories" [writing]|12:58 Rob says, "only I am now older and more experienced so it can come out finely crafted with that same free creativity" [writing]|12:58 Matthew asks (of Rob), "Do you anticipate this being a long story?" [writing]|12:58 Rob says, "well I'd like it to be kind of a harry potter volume 2 sized thing" [writing]|12:59 Rob says, "I think that's what I'm aiming at" [writing]|12:59 Rob says, "dunno" [writing]|12:59 Rob says, "I've actually never written a story that long before" [writing]|12:59 Matthew says, "That's pretty long, yeah." [writing]|13:01 Iain asks, "That must be, what, a couple of hundred thousand words?" [writing]|13:01 Iain says, "Three or four nanowrimos." [writing]|13:02 Matthew says, "This page says that Chamber of Secrets is 85,151 words." [writing]|13:02 Iain says, "Huh, not so big." [writing]|13:02 Iain says, "I'm probably half-imagining the later books." [writing]|13:03 Matthew says, "The longest book is Order of the Phoenix, which is 257,045 words." [writing]|13:03 Iain says, "So it's a wrimo and a half" [security]|13:04 Gunther says, " http://blogs.adobe.com/asset/2012/03/presenting-malware-classifier-tool.html " [security]|13:04 Gunther says, "apparently this thing is completely ludicrous in the "to laugh at" sense" [teaching]|13:06 Gunther says, "wow, Poland adopted CC-BY digital schoolbooks" [teaching]|13:06 Johnny says, "It used to be BYOTB." [lounge]|13:06 josh_g is protected by public incredulity. [lounge]|13:06 Johnny says, "Hey josh_g" [teaching]|13:07 Gunther says, "speaking of teaching, it's josh_g" [teaching]|13:07 josh_g says, "indeed" [teaching]|13:07 josh_g says, "sneaking onto the mud during break" [teaching]|13:07 Gunther says, "Recap 8 or so" [teaching]|13:07 josh_g says, "huh, nice" [teaching]|13:07 josh_g says, "if the books are any use, that is" [teaching]|13:08 Gunther says, "well, they're polish, so no" [teaching]|13:08 josh_g says, "not to me I suppose" [Skyrim]|13:08 Gunther says, "more like skyri-m( http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=10802 " [lounge]|13:09 Jota arrives from the east. [lounge]|13:09 Jota greets. [Skyrim]|13:09 inky says, "heh" [lounge]|13:09 Matthew says, "Hi Jota." [Skyrim]|13:09 Gunther says, "Result: http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/560938002172811711/4721017E6C28A8BDBB06F03E7901F2A815E21F30/ " [lounge]|13:09 Johnny greeted Jota. [lounge]|13:10 olethros was so annoyed he sat down and angrily wobbled his jowls for a full 45 minutes. [lounge]|13:10 Johnny says, "Hi olethros" [lounge]|13:10 olethros says, "hi folks" [Skyrim]|13:10 josh_g says, "well, that's weird" [writing]|13:11 Hjalfi says, "Depending how you write, you may end up doing 150% or 200% of that and cutting down." [writing]|13:11 Matthew says, "That's what mamster always says he does, but I can't do it." [writing]|13:12 Matthew says, "If I write over, it's usually only 5-10% tops." [writing]|13:14 inky says, "people vary in how much they pre-edit stuff they write" [writing]|13:14 Gunther says, "Neal Stephenson: 0%" [bandit]|13:14 inky | http://www.qwantz.com/index.php [writing]|13:14 Iain says, "Yeah, everybody's different." [writing]|13:15 Iain says, "I feel like in the era before word processors, two full drafts was fairly common." [writing]|13:15 Matthew says, "I think people still write multiple full drafts." [writing]|13:15 Iain says, "Based purely on reading writers writing about writing." [writing]|13:16 Hjalfi says, "Well, back in the days before word processors, you couldn't easily modify stuff, so you really *had* to redraft." [writing]|13:16 olethros says, "if you find that you are skipping parts as you are proofreading your draft, it's a sign you should edit them out" [writing]|13:17 Iain says, "You can put in annotations." [writing]|13:17 Matthew says, "Well, right, but I'm not sure that even 'new drafts' were like 90-95% rewritten." [writing]|13:17 Iain says, "A lot of authors' handwritten manuscripts are total messes." [writing]|13:17 Matthew says, "The press versions of scripts I get when I review plays are frequently messy, too. Tons of typos and weird formatting and stuff like that." [writing]|13:18 Hjalfi says, "Sigh. Must do some more writing." [writing]|13:18 olethros says, "step 1 is to find something to write about though" [writing]|13:18 Matthew says (to olethros), "That is so old-fashioned." [writing]|13:18 Hjalfi says, "The main problem I have is plot construction. I think I'm fine with the nuts and bolts of putting together prose, it's putting together a satisfying story that's the hard bit." [writing]|13:19 olethros says (to matthew), "the last time I tried to write without having something to write about, it ended up being a story about crime, rain and gyros" [writing]|13:19 olethros says, "or was it souvlaki" [writing]|13:19 Hjalfi says, "Also it's a bit people don't talk about much. Characterisation? Lots. World-building? Libraries full of treatises. Prose style? You can get courses. Plot mechanics? Not so much." [writing]|13:19 Matthew says (to olethros), "If it wasn't both, I'm not interested." [writing]|13:19 Matthew says (to Hjalfi), "Well, because so much depends on what the plot is, it's hard to generalize." [writing]|13:19 Iain says (to Hjalfi), "What? Tons of people talk about it." [writing]|13:19 Iain says, "Oops, sorry, I'm lagged." [writing]|13:20 Iain says, "I thought you were still on redrafting." [writing]|13:20 Matthew says, "[jokes] @emit Iain says, "'Dead,' I guess, HA.'"" [jobs]|13:20 inky says, "hmm" [jobs]|13:20 inky says, "er" [writing]|13:20 Hjalfi says, "Nah, that bit got edited out." [writing]|13:20 inky says, "hmm" [writing]|13:21 inky says, "I think people talk about a few aspects of plot construction" [writing]|13:21 inky says, "like "the gun on the mantelpiece" kind of stuff" [writing]|13:21 Gunther asks, "chekov's?" [audio]|13:21 Jon says, "the downside of earbuds is earwax." [writing]|13:21 inky says, "yeah" [writing]|13:21 Matthew says (to Gunther), "Yeah." [audio]|13:21 Jon says, "whoops, maybe I meant #tmi" [lounge]|13:21 Psmith clambers through a window that wasn't there a moment ago, and drops lightly to the floor. The window isn't there again. [writing]|13:21 Roger says, "Bova's got a plot book, I seem to recall." [writing]|13:21 Hjalfi says, "e.g. I want to construct at least two character arcs (for the A plot and B plot) that both complement each other and also complement the overall story arc." [audio]|13:22 inky says, "#jei" [writing]|13:22 Roger says, "A fair amount of Egri's The Art of Dramatic Writing is also plot-related." [writing]|13:22 inky says, "and, yeah, a lot of the plot stuff is actually character stuff" [writing]|13:22 inky says, "or is covered by character stuff" [lounge]|13:23 zarf walks in through the wall. Behind him, light shines briefly through, pale violet this time of day. [writing]|13:23 Iain says, "In SF, Chekhov's gun is superseded by Chekhov's phaser, though." [writing]|13:23 Iain says, "If there's a gun on the mantlepiece, it must later be used to shoot a dinosaur, OR shot *by* a dinosaur, OR a star has to explode." [writing]|13:23 olethros says, "ah, voila, my lat writing effort (I think) http://web.archive.org/web/20050225203756/http://www.idiap.ch/~dimitrak/fiction/2003/chapter1.html " [zarfplan]|13:23 zarf says, "reminder: don't send me mudmail." [writing]|13:23 vimes says, "or it has to turn out to be a dinosaur" [writing]|13:23 Matthew says (to Hjalfi), "Lesson number one: Don't study plot mechanics by listening to Iain." [writing]|13:24 Matthew says, "Hmmm..." [band-name]|13:24 Matthew says, "Phasersaurus." [lounge]|13:24 Rob moseys right on out. [writing]|13:24 Hjalfi | http://xkcd.com/254/ [zarfplan]|13:24 zarf says, "the chance that I will notice it timely is less than 1, and the chance that I will delete it unread is more than 0." [writing]|13:24 Iain says (to vimes), "Ahh, the Campbell gambit." [zarfplan]|13:26 inky says, "the first part seems fine but the second seems like a weirdly self-sabotaging thing to do" [cyoa]|13:26 maga says, "new post: http://maga-dogg.livejournal.com/467158/html " [writing]|13:26 olethros says, "Mmm, this thing is endearingly bad." [zarfplan]|13:26 zarf says, "it is my punishment of the MUD for supporting such a feature" [UK]|13:26 Fang | The number of GPs who believe that the government's health reforms in England will improve patient care is falling, a BBC poll suggests. [cyoa]|13:26 inky says, " http://maga-dogg.livejournal.com/467158.html I believe you mean" [cyoa]|13:26 maga says, "yes, that" [cyoa]|13:26 inky says, "also hooray" [cyoa]|13:27 maga says, "sadly it is still not Meanwhile because I am a coward" [cyoa]|13:27 Matthew says, "Ha ha." [zarfplan]|13:27 Jota asks, "Aren't you the one being punished, though?" [zarfplan]|13:27 zarf says, "welcome to my entire life." [cyoa]|13:27 Matthew says (to maga), "For that you should borrow the XKCD diagram of the movie Primer." [cyoa]|13:27 Iain says, "Zow, that's a title" [zarfplan]|13:28 Jota says, "I mean, if someone is betatesting one of your apps (for instance), it seems like the MUD doesn't suffer as a whole from you deleting their bug reports unseen." [zarfplan]|13:28 zarf says, "please send beta testing feedback as regular email." [cyoa]|13:29 maga says (to Iain), "it is really more like Night of Six Boyfriends, One Girlfriend And An Alien Harem From Neptune" [lounge]|13:29 zarf asks, "Is there a mud flag that will suppress the "You have 1 new mudmail" message at login?" [cyoa]|13:29 Iain says, "Night of 1000 boyfriends in binary." [cyoa]|13:30 Iain asks, "Girlfriend? Alien harem?" [cyoa]|13:30 Iain says, "I need to re-skim less skimpily." [cyoa]|13:30 zarf says, "now I can't read the word "bushy" without sniggering" [cyoa]|13:31 Iain says, "I want to say I ticked that box already but that might cause more sniggering." [lounge]|13:32 Jon says (to zarf), "It seems to me more like you should just be able to turn off mudmail for yourself." [lounge]|13:32 zarf says, "I've asked about that, but it hasn't happened" [zarfplan]|13:32 Gunther says, "oo, reminds me I need to download shinymeanwhile for the shinypad" [lounge]|13:32 Jon says, "And have mail zarf = greatest thing just return 'please email zarf instead'" [lounge]|13:32 zarf says, "I'd take either" [lounge]|13:32 Gunther asks, "hmm, would bb clear also clear your mudmail?" [lounge]|13:32 Jon says, "I don't think it does" [lounge]|13:33 Gunther says, "(using @oset checkmail)" [lounge]|13:33 Gunther says, "I guess @oset-ting checkmail would solve the not-seeing-mudmail problem, except not the way zarf wants" [cyoa]|13:34 Matthew asks (of maga), "Hey, may I make one suggestion about these CYOA entries?" [cyoa]|13:34 Matthew says, "(Which I love, by the way.)" [lounge]|13:34 Roger says, "mudmail forwarding to real email seems like a solution, if infeasible." [education]|13:34 Allen |Maverick Couch, a gay 16-year-old high school student in southwest Ohio, is suing his school district after the principal prohibited him from wearing a T-shirt declaring "Jesus Is Not a Homophobe." [cyoa]|13:35 maga asks, "mrm?" [education]|13:35 Allen |The shirt was "sexual in nature and therefore indecent and inappropriate in a school setting," claimed a lawyer for the school district in a Feb. 24 letter to a lawyer for Couch. [Canada]|13:35 Roger says, "Haha I've got the worst gerrymandered electoral district ever" [Canada]|13:35 Roger | http://www.elections.ab.ca/public%20website/files/maps/ED19_CALGARY_MACKAY_NOSE_HILL_400.pdf [lounge]|13:35 Jota says, "Or just the opt-out, if we manager to get around to it." [Canada]|13:35 Roger says, "So insensible" [cyoa]|13:35 Matthew says (to maga), "Just put in every one an explanation of what the colors mean? It might just be me, but I have a hard time remembering and then always have to go back and look at the entry/entries that have them, which makes me sad." [education]|13:35 maga asks, "homophobia is a sex act?" [cyoa]|13:36 maga says, "oh, yeah, I was doing keys for a while" [education]|13:36 Roger says, "Hrm it's hard to say it's not "sexual in nature"" [cyoa]|13:36 maga says, "although it was a pain to make them legible, so maybe it should just be a separate graphic" [cyoa]|13:36 Matthew says (to maga), "Or even in the text of the entry." [cyoa]|13:36 Iain says, "Or just a text list." [cyoa]|13:36 Iain says, "I assume works in LJ." [cyoa]|13:37 Iain says, "Or whatever" [web-toons]|13:37 Jon says, "ah, and Multiverse jumps off the pony cliff" [education]|13:37 Jota says, "I'm surprised they didn't decide to pull out the old 'the first amendment says we have to prohibit the exercise of religion in public settings' thing too." [cyoa]|13:37 K-Y says, "whoa" [Canada]|13:37 Allen asks, "as bad as the rabbit on a skateboard?" [cyoa]|13:37 K-Y says, "I didn't know this client supported color" [cyoa]|13:37 K-Y says, "or the mud" [education]|13:37 maga says (to Roger), "well, so is having a beard. or breasts" [cyoa]|13:37 Iain asks, "Wait, did my font tag go red for you?" [cyoa]|13:38 K-Y says, "oh that's why" [cyoa]|13:38 katre says, " !" [cyoa]|13:38 katre closes the font tag [cyoa]|13:38 Iain says, "Cool." [lounge]|13:38 Rob comes right on in. [cyoa]|13:38 (from Iain) Iain says, "" [lounge]|13:41 Rob moseys right on out. [cyoa]|13:41 K-Y asks, "for security?" [lounge]|13:41 Rob comes right on in. Recapped 730 of 3793 lines from recent channels. Current time: Wednesday, 4 Apr 2012, 01:41:33 PM EDT There is one new message on #games/computer/Sierra. There is one new message on the main bulletin board. [cyoa] Iain says, "Yeah" [Alaska] Matthew says, "I was going to change the @topic to 'Alaska IS a magnet for volcanologists, and gorilla penises are TINY,' but the preexisting inky quote is already way better." Rob says, "bnalargh" [cyoa] K-Y says, "or just because I can't see half the things people say oh" Rob says, "I got that silly 'You have been superseded.' message" Rob says, "and then ... nothing" [Alaska] Iain says, "Anyone's penis would be tiny if they were naked in Alaska." Rob says, "floating in an empty void of nothingness-ness" schep asks, "huh. anybody @from other-Rob?" Rob says, "as if all voices had cried out in hilarity and then gone silent" [jobs] Matthew says, "Man, these downloads from Major Technology Company are taking forever today." [cyoa] maga says, "okay, super-quick and hacky text-only key thrown in" Iain says, "Does this Rob have a goatee? I forget if the real Rob is supposed to have one." Rob says, "I hit [x] and thought I closed the first connection before starting the second, but this client is so finicky I actually need to quit and restart the app for it to not-do-that" [jobs] Matthew says, "I'm getting 397KBps on this one right now, which sucks." [cyoa] Matthew says, "Cool, thanks." [cyoa] maga asks, "does that look okay, or does it need to be somewhere else?" Rob says, "I actually do have a bit of a mustache and beard thing going" Rob says, "I look like george_harrison_74 right now" Rob says, "which is not how I looked a month ago" [cyoa] Matthew says, "I don't care how it looks or where it is, to be honest, I'm just thrilled it's there." Rob says, "as seen in krone2 extras documentary videos, submitted as evidence A, your honor" [lyrics] Allen says, "tangent to Alaska ... And I'll show you the meaning of Vulcanology / It's volcanos, and eruptions. HOT LAVA GLEE!'" [tangent] K-Y says, "I guess I should ask for clarification regarding those security risks" [cyoa] Rob asks, "has there yet been an awesome smartphone/iPad/tablet CYOA ?" [cyoa] Matthew asks (of Rob), "Besides Meanwhile, you mean?" [cyoa] Rob says, "yeah I think I meant text-story-based" [facebook] olethros says, "grrrr websites that like you publishing to facebook" [tangent] vimes says, "well, my attempt at dumping a javascript alert on you seemed to fail, but i have no idea if that's because it doesn't support javascript or just doesn't show alerts" [tangent] schep asks, "did vimes' trick/joke actually pop up an alert box?" [cyoa] zarf says, "ChoiceOf has ported a couple of their games." [cyoa] Gunther says (to Rob), "there have been ports of the CYOA books, and..." [cyoa] maga says, "plenty that are originally hard-copy and gained something from being converted" [facebook] Rob asks, "that facebook-'Like' you or like-you like you?" [cyoa] zarf asks, "Also King of Dragon Pass showed up, right?" [cyoa] Gunther asks, "Fabled Something of Legend 2?" [cyoa] Gunther says, "oh yeah, that" [cyoa] Rob asks (of zarf), "what's KoDP?" [ifdb] Bishop says, "Huh, _Wuthering Heights_ really is quite bad." [ifdb] Gunther says, "true to the source material then" [cyoa] maga says, "(the second two of these I played on the Kindle application)" [tangent] schep says, "I'm sure you'd hate it if somebody typed blink without typing /blink" [tangent] K-Y says, "I didn't see anything at all" [cyoa] Rob asks, "so the market's still open for CYOA awesomeness to blow people away?" [ifdb] Bishop says, "I'm not actually a fan of the book but I daresay the IF is worse." Quote added to schep's quotebook. [cyoa] Johnny asks, "Is Frinklestein cyoa-ish?" [zarfplan] marc says, "well, i mentioned in here and sent the mail" [cyoa] Rob asks, "what's Frinklestein?" Recapping 25 of 25 lines from misc/personal/zarfplan: [zarfplan]/001 * NewsBoy hollers, "Extra! Extra! zarf has posted message 13, about 'Meanwhile updated, Fealty available', to the bulletin board! If Markov were here, he'd know what to say!" [zarfplan]/002 Limax says, "Huh. I never got contacted about beatesting Fealty. Not a big deal" [zarfplan]/003 zarf asks, "you send chris email?" [zarfplan]/004 Limax says, "Yup... and cced you on it" [zarfplan]/005 Limax says, "Like I said... no big deal" [zarfplan]/006 Limax says, "I'm just trying to keep my feedt wet with enduser testing as much as I can... but I know there will be other opportunities" [zarfplan]/007 zarf says, "oh, I see -- you sent that about two days before Chris submitted the final version, so there wasn't time" [zarfplan]/008 Limax says, "Yeah... my bad" [zarfplan]/009 Limax says, "I wasn't on for a while... I can't remember why now" [zarfplan]/010 zarf says, "thanks anyway" [zarfplan]/011 Limax says, "No probem" [zarfplan]/012 Limax says, "Like I said, I know there will be further opportuntites" [zarfplan]/013 zarf says, "hopefully I'll have some Dreamhold testing in the next week or so" [zarfplan]/014 Limax says, "Cool. Let me know. All my 'updated' UDIDs were in that email" [zarfplan]/015 marc says (to zarf), "(also sent as a mudmail) just a quick heads up -- the "Learn more..." link for Fealty on http://zarfhome.com/ points to http://zarfhome.com/meanwhile/ " [zarfplan]/016 zarf says, "reminder: don't send me mudmail." [zarfplan]/017 zarf says, "the chance that I will notice it timely is less than 1, and the chance that I will delete it unread is more than 0." [zarfplan]/018 inky says, "the first part seems fine but the second seems like a weirdly self-sabotaging thing to do" [zarfplan]/019 zarf says, "it is my punishment of the MUD for supporting such a feature" [zarfplan]/020 Jota asks, "Aren't you the one being punished, though?" [zarfplan]/021 zarf says, "welcome to my entire life." [zarfplan]/022 Jota says, "I mean, if someone is betatesting one of your apps (for instance), it seems like the MUD doesn't suffer as a whole from you deleting their bug reports unseen." [zarfplan]/023 zarf says, "please send beta testing feedback as regular email." [zarfplan]/024 Gunther says, "oo, reminds me I need to download shinymeanwhile for the shinypad" [zarfplan]/025 marc says, "well, i mentioned in here and sent the mail" Recapped 25 of 25 lines from misc/personal/zarfplan. [zarfplan] marc says, "figured you should see one" [cyoa] maga says, "Jon Ingold's inkle project" Recapping 61 of 61 lines from media/books/cyoa: [cyoa]/001 maga says, "new post: http://maga-dogg.livejournal.com/467158/html " [cyoa]/002 inky says, " http://maga-dogg.livejournal.com/467158.html I believe you mean" [cyoa]/003 maga says, "yes, that" [cyoa]/004 inky says, "also hooray" [cyoa]/005 maga says, "sadly it is still not Meanwhile because I am a coward" [cyoa]/006 Matthew says, "Ha ha." [cyoa]/007 Matthew says (to maga), "For that you should borrow the XKCD diagram of the movie Primer." [cyoa]/008 Iain says, "Zow, that's a title" [cyoa]/009 maga says (to Iain), "it is really more like Night of Six Boyfriends, One Girlfriend And An Alien Harem From Neptune" [cyoa]/010 Iain says, "Night of 1000 boyfriends in binary." [cyoa]/011 Iain asks, "Girlfriend? Alien harem?" [cyoa]/012 Iain says, "I need to re-skim less skimpily." [cyoa]/013 zarf says, "now I can't read the word "bushy" without sniggering" [cyoa]/014 Iain says, "I want to say I ticked that box already but that might cause more sniggering." [cyoa]/015 Matthew asks (of maga), "Hey, may I make one suggestion about these CYOA entries?" [cyoa]/016 Matthew says, "(Which I love, by the way.)" [cyoa]/017 maga asks, "mrm?" [cyoa]/018 Matthew says (to maga), "Just put in every one an explanation of what the colors mean? It might just be me, but I have a hard time remembering and then always have to go back and look at the entry/entries that have them, which makes me sad." [cyoa]/019 maga says, "oh, yeah, I was doing keys for a while" [cyoa]/020 maga says, "although it was a pain to make them legible, so maybe it should just be a separate graphic" [cyoa]/021 Matthew says (to maga), "Or even in the text of the entry." [cyoa]/022 Iain says, "Or just a text list." [cyoa]/023 Iain says, "I assume works in LJ." [cyoa]/024 Iain says, "Or whatever" [cyoa]/025 K-Y says, "whoa" [cyoa]/026 K-Y says, "I didn't know this client supported color" [cyoa]/027 K-Y says, "or the mud" [cyoa]/028 Iain asks, "Wait, did my font tag go red for you?" [cyoa]/029 K-Y says, "oh that's why" [cyoa]/030 katre says, " !" [cyoa]/031 katre closes the font tag [cyoa]/032 Iain says, "Cool." [cyoa]/033 (from Iain) Iain says, "" [cyoa]/040 K-Y asks, "for security?" [cyoa]/041 Iain says, "Yeah" [cyoa]/042 K-Y says, "or just because I can't see half the things people say oh" [cyoa]/043 maga says, "okay, super-quick and hacky text-only key thrown in" [cyoa]/044 Matthew says, "Cool, thanks." [cyoa]/045 maga asks, "does that look okay, or does it need to be somewhere else?" [cyoa]/046 Matthew says, "I don't care how it looks or where it is, to be honest, I'm just thrilled it's there." [cyoa]/047 Rob asks, "has there yet been an awesome smartphone/iPad/tablet CYOA ?" [cyoa]/048 Matthew asks (of Rob), "Besides Meanwhile, you mean?" [cyoa]/049 Rob says, "yeah I think I meant text-story-based" [cyoa]/050 zarf says, "ChoiceOf has ported a couple of their games." [cyoa]/051 Gunther says (to Rob), "there have been ports of the CYOA books, and..." [cyoa]/052 maga says, "plenty that are originally hard-copy and gained something from being converted" [cyoa]/053 zarf asks, "Also King of Dragon Pass showed up, right?" [cyoa]/054 Gunther asks, "Fabled Something of Legend 2?" [cyoa]/055 Gunther says, "oh yeah, that" [cyoa]/056 Rob asks (of zarf), "what's KoDP?" [cyoa]/057 maga says, "(the second two of these I played on the Kindle application)" [cyoa]/058 Rob asks, "so the market's still open for CYOA awesomeness to blow people away?" [cyoa]/059 Johnny asks, "Is Frinklestein cyoa-ish?" [cyoa]/060 Rob asks, "what's Frinklestein?" [cyoa]/061 maga says, "Jon Ingold's inkle project" Recapped 61 of 61 lines from media/books/cyoa. [cyoa] Iain asks, "Does Meanwhile count?" [cyoa] Iain says, "It is!" [cyoa] Iain says, "Oh, yeah, that. I assume it is, yeah." [cyoa] Iain says, "Holy shit, lag." [cyoa] Iain says, "I thought I'd been saying stuff this whole time." [cyoa] maga says, "which looks to be the original Frankenstein plus some CYOA additions and extra-shiny graphics" [cyoa] Rob says, "how can you work at google and have lag" [teaching] Bishop says, "Huh. A (quite good) student I wrote a recommendation for mailed a thank-you note to my office. With a stamp. He sees me 3 times a week and probably visits the departmental mail room at least twice a week. Ah well." [zarfplan] zarf says, "email or twitter is reliable. mud stuff is not" [cyoa] Iain says, "Instead I just wandered into the room 10 minutes later and started shouting stuff into thin air." [teaching] Bishop says, "Thoughtful gesture, if unnecesaary." [cyoa] Iain says (to Rob), "I'm on a train!" [cyoa] Rob says, "suuure you are" [cyoa] Rob says, "what train from when to which" [journalism] Allen | Keith Olbermann calls himself a 10 million dollar chandelier [cyoa] Rob says, "chugga chugga chugga chugga woo woo" [journalism] Rob says, "ha ha ha what" [journalism] Allen | ?If you buy a 10 million dollar chandelier, you should have a house to put it in,? Olbermann said. ?Just walking around with a 10 million dollar chandelier isn?t going to do anybody a lot of good. And it?s not going to do any good to the chandelier.? [cyoa] Iain looks suspiciously at maybe-Rob. [cyoa] Iain asks, "You're not Gaston, by any chance?" [journalism] Rob says, "I feel like a hypocrite when I gripe at keith olbermann for having a shitty diva-like attitude and getting fired a lot, because I feel like that's exactly the same job record I would have if I had gone into broadcast journalism" [journalism] Allen says, "grr, rxvt doesn't like smart quotes (in cygwin)" [zarfplan] marc says, "okay" [journalism] Rob says, "but I still can see he's being really doofed up" [zarfplan] marc says, "or you could pretend i didn't mention anything" [tangent] Iain says (to Rob), "Heading to Scotland for a series of back-to-back holiday vignette sort of things." [journalism] Matthew says, "Wait, what." [tangent] Iain says, "Most notably hiking and camping in Skye." [journalism] Matthew says, "Man, that quote is even dumber than I thought it would be when I passed up reading a story about it earlier today." [cyoa] Rob says, "I'm so not Gaston I don't even get the reference to who 'Gaston' is" Recapping 71 of 71 lines from alt/tangent: [tangent]/001 Fang says, "I wonder what the correlation is between minor offences, and major crimes, actually" [tangent]/002 Fang says, "I suspect that speeding tickets is actually correlated negatively with murder" [tangent]/003 olethros says, "speeding away from ... murder" [tangent]/004 Fang says, "speeding tickets -> car ownership -> high income -> low crime area" [tangent]/005 olethros asks, "dude, who doesn't have a car?" [tangent]/006 Gunther says, "high income -> drug dealer -> high crime area" [tangent]/007 Fang says (to olethros), "lots of poor people living in central cities" [tangent]/008 olethros says, "err, the centre is the most expensive part usually" [tangent]/009 olethros says, "people in the suburbs must have cars." [tangent]/010 Fang says, "well, I'm thinking specifically of places like Chicago, Detroit, etc" [tangent]/011 Jon says, "it's only been in recent years that the 'white flight' to the suburbs has been reversed" [tangent]/012 olethros says, "well, nobody lives in central detroit" [tangent]/013 olethros says, "ok, this is a bit narrower" [tangent]/014 olethros says, "so strip searches are only legal if 'the searched individuals are going to be placed in the general prison population'" [tangent]/015 vimes says, "another decision designates the entire popualation of the world as the "general prison population", as part of the war on terror and drugs" [tangent]/016 olethros asks, "what about ... Terror Drugs?" [tangent]/017 vimes says, "oh, those are fine" [tangent]/018 vimes says, "see http://angryflower.com/fearso.gif and http://angryflower.com/fears.gif " [tangent]/019 vimes says, "(assuming you count soup as a drug, and hello, why wouldn't you)" [tangent]/020 Iain says, "#comics That was actually sort of the life story of former prime minister John Major, famously one of the most boring people ever." [tangent]/021 Iain says, "(Or so we thought at the time)" [tangent]/022 Iain says, "He ran away from the circus to become an accountant." [tangent]/023 vimes says, "hee hee" [tangent]/024 Storme says, "yeah" [tangent]/025 inky says, "ha ha" [tangent]/026 Storme says, "(alas it's not quite true but I think his childhood did involve a lot of garden gnomes)" [tangent]/027 Iain says, "It turns out he had a torrid affair during his term of office and managed to keep it quiet." [tangent]/028 Iain says, "Also he deserves a lot of credit for (secretly) making the first real progress towards peace in Northern Ireland." [tangent]/029 inky says, "but the affair was with a linoleum curler" [tangent]/030 Iain says, "Hee hee" [tangent]/031 Fang asks, "what would a mad statistician get up to?" [tangent]/032 Roger says, "deviations" [tangent]/033 Roger says, "Maybe eugenics" [tangent]/034 borowski asks, "Would a chaotic good character cheat on a dice roll for the good of the party?" [tangent]/035 zarf says, "for the first couple of Muppet Shows, the guest star's reward was a Muppet of them" [tangent]/036 Roger says, "Hunh" [tangent]/037 inky says, "nice!" [tangent]/038 borowski says, "A want a muppet of myself as a kickstarter reward." [tangent]/039 borowski says, "Or dinner with a muppet of myself." [tangent]/040 Johnny says, "Voiced by Gilbert Gottfried." [tangent]/041 borowski says, "heh" [tangent]/042 inky says, "there actually are websites where you can order custom made muppets" [tangent]/043 Mary says, "People often say "psychotic" when they mean "psychopathic." It's nice that someone recognizes a distinction." [tangent]/044 borowski says, "Very true." [tangent]/045 borowski says, "I've met people with schizophrenia that had had psychotic episodes but were very nice people." [tangent]/046 Mary says, "Most of the people I've met in psych facilities have been nice, and I'd say more than half have had hallucinations." [tangent]/047 borowski says, "Yes, I think mental illness causes inward anger for more than outward." [tangent]/048 Mary says, "Certainly more people seem to have suicidal than homicidal ideas." [tangent]/049 maga says, "I'm not so sure about that, but the people for whom it causes outward anger are a lot less likely to end up in psych facilities rather than, say, prison" [tangent]/050 borowski says (to maga), "That's a good point." [tangent]/051 borowski says, "There is a great deal of untreated mental illness in prison." [tangent]/052 maga says, "which is one big reason for the gap between reported male and female depression rates" [tangent]/053 borowski says, "Ah, I hadn't thought of that." [tangent]/054 maga says, "since depressed women are a lot less likely to express their depression by doing things you get arrested for" [tangent]/055 borowski says, "Netflix sent me the wrong Taxi Driver. Instead I got the Hindi Taxi Driver: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxi_Driver_%281954_film%29 ." [tangent]/056 nothings says, "it sucks when those foreigners make cheap knock-offs of Hollywood films and then send them through a time machine" [tangent]/057 borowski says, "I love the wikipedia plot summary." [tangent]/058 borowski | Will Mangal ever get a chance to tell about his love for Mala? What will Sylvie's reaction be? [tangent]/059 borowski says, "I think it came from the back of the DVD case." [tangent]/060 borowski says, "Wikipedia's page for Palpatine has no link for disambiguation. There is only THE Palpatine." [tangent]/061 nothings asks, "why would there be one?" [tangent]/062 nothings says, "the Taxi Driver character is Palantine, and there isn't enough about him for him to have his own page anyway" [tangent]/063 borowski says, "Hmmm. I guess the Taxi Driver character wouldn't need his own page." [tangent]/064 borowski says, "Ah. I see. My bad." [tangent]/065 K-Y says, "I guess I should ask for clarification regarding those security risks" [tangent]/066 vimes says, "well, my attempt at dumping a javascript alert on you seemed to fail, but i have no idea if that's because it doesn't support javascript or just doesn't show alerts" [tangent]/067 schep asks, "did vimes' trick/joke actually pop up an alert box?" [tangent]/068 schep says, "I'm sure you'd hate it if somebody typed blink without typing /blink" [tangent]/069 K-Y says, "I didn't see anything at all" [tangent]/070 Iain says (to Rob), "Heading to Scotland for a series of back-to-back holiday vignette sort of things." [tangent]/071 Iain says, "Most notably hiking and camping in Skye." Recapped 71 of 71 lines from alt/tangent. [cyoa] vimes says, "No one drinks like Gaston!" [tangent] Hjalfi exclaims (at Iain), "Yay Skye!" [tangent] Rob says, "wait! chandelier <--> Gaston" [cyoa] Iain says (to Rob), "It's a years-old reference to inky's Nobilis game, if you remember that." [tangent] Rob says, "now all makes sense" Hjalfi says, "Offtime." Hjalfi enthusiastically mundanifies between spasms of personality-occultism and off-topic casual/social-leveraging. Become immortal or die! [cyoa] Rob asks, "which nobilis game? who was gaston? who ordered the veal cutlet?" [cyoa] Rob says, "I mainly remember my character Franklin and a general mist of hilarity in the surrounding environs" "You'd rather have a male technician? Do you have a racial or religious preference, so I can tell dispatch who to send?" [cyoa] Iain says, "You played a confused old duffer called Franklin." [cyoa] Iain says, "Really well as I recall" Lionheart makes no law abridging the freedom of s***ch, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to ***emble, and to pe***ion the government for a redress of grievances. [cyoa] Rob asks, "were you Gaston?" [cyoa] Iain says, "I was, but for that episode, Sargent was a robot disguised as Gaston." [cyoa] Rob says, "so suffusedly did I play Franklin that I show the affects of alzheimers when remembering what we as a team did together" [cyoa] Iain says, "And Gaston was disguised as a monk who was Storme's character's ex-boyfriend and Emily's character's current boyfriend." [cyoa] Rob says, "wow" [cyoa] Iain says, "For some reason I found it pretty memorable." [cyoa] Rob says, "someone needs to publish this story for the world to marvel at" [cyoa] Iain says, "The transcript is online! Hang on" [diocese] Bishop says, "Mmm, Bridges acceptance deadline extended until this Friday. Man, I hope I make the cut...." [cyoa] Rob asks, "all those adventures are logged and archived, right?" [cyoa] Rob says, "I drew a couple of pictures of Franklin in my sketchbooks" [cyoa] Rob says, "at least one of which I uploaded somewhere for general purview" [cyoa] Iain says, "Hmm yeah I remember those sketches" [cyoa] Rob says, "one was a grim grouchy sort, the other was happy and in a ridiculously loud golfing outfit" [kickstarter] Bishop says, "Banh mi truck at $2K/$3.7K, with 21 days to go. Hope it gets more support." [cyoa] Rob says, "but smiling" [cyoa] Rob says, "they're probably in raddial.com/stuff/ somewhere" [cyoa] Iain says, "Zow, 2002" [diocese] two-star says, "Good luck. One of these years, I should really try to make it to Bridges." [cyoa] Iain says, "Here we go: http://strackenz.spod-central.org/~lpsmith/rpg/transcripts/nobilis/ " [cyoa] Iain says, "And specifically http://strackenz.spod-central.org/~lpsmith/rpg/transcripts/nobilis/nobilis35_int.html " [cyoa] Iain says, "Huh, Gaston started that episode by chatting up one of inky's hot NPCs." [cyoa] Iain says, "Or trying to" [cyoa] Rob says, "sure nuff http://raddial.com/stuff/franklin.gif " [cyoa] Rob says, "as if the campaign had given him a second youth" [kickstarter] two-star says, "Sounds like one kickstarter where "lunch with the proprietor" is a basic level, rather than a premium." [cyoa] Rob says, "I remember whaling on sargent-robot while people cheered" [cyoa] Rob says, "that was the best rpg ever" [cyoa] Rob says, "everyone was in their prime" [cyoa] Rob says, "we should novelise that and Step 3) Profit" [cyoa] Iain says, "Ha ha ha, and there was an NPC who inky off-handedly described as looking a bit like Harrison Ford." [cyoa] Iain says, "And all the women in the chancel immediately started chasing him." [kickstarter] olethros asks, "who pays for the lunch?" [rpg] Rob says, " http://raddial.com/stuff/franklin.html " [rpg] Rob says, "maybe we should get the gang back together and do a sequel" [rpg] Iain says, "I was just thinking that" [rpg] Rob | During during his younger days [rpg] Rob says, "so during they were double during" [rpg] Iain says, "Well, I was thinking that if it were a successful TV show or something, somebody ought to pitch the 10-year reunion." [rpg] Iain says, "Which is not quite the same as just thinking that" [rpg] Rob says, "maybe inky will come back from doing something productive and see this" [rpg] Rob says, "this is what the krone2 sequel is all about" [rpg] Rob says, "so I am all into ten-year-later sequels right now" [zarfplan] Jota says (to Zarf), "@oset nomail" [rpg] Rob says, "power of Paper, that was awesome to wield" [science] Allen | 'Beer Goggles' Fool Women the Most: Scientists Discover Why People Are More Attractive After a Few Drinks [rpg] Iain says, "Hmm, yeah, I must have seen the first Krone rough around about 2002." [rpg] Rob says, "(he said, getting back to nobilis)" [zarfplan] zarf says, "woo hoo!" [zarfplan] zarf says, "thank you" [rpg] Rob says, "yeah I showed it at North Carolina meet #2" [zarfplan] zarf says, "assuming you did it" [zarfplan] Jota says, "You're welcome." Recapping 34 of 34 lines from misc/personal/zarfplan: [zarfplan]/001 * NewsBoy hollers, "Extra! Extra! zarf has posted message 13, about 'Meanwhile updated, Fealty available', to the bulletin board! If Markov were here, he'd know what to say!" [zarfplan]/002 Limax says, "Huh. I never got contacted about beatesting Fealty. Not a big deal" [zarfplan]/003 zarf asks, "you send chris email?" [zarfplan]/004 Limax says, "Yup... and cced you on it" [zarfplan]/005 Limax says, "Like I said... no big deal" [zarfplan]/006 Limax says, "I'm just trying to keep my feedt wet with enduser testing as much as I can... but I know there will be other opportunities" [zarfplan]/007 zarf says, "oh, I see -- you sent that about two days before Chris submitted the final version, so there wasn't time" [zarfplan]/008 Limax says, "Yeah... my bad" [zarfplan]/009 Limax says, "I wasn't on for a while... I can't remember why now" [zarfplan]/010 zarf says, "thanks anyway" [zarfplan]/011 Limax says, "No probem" [zarfplan]/012 Limax says, "Like I said, I know there will be further opportuntites" [zarfplan]/013 zarf says, "hopefully I'll have some Dreamhold testing in the next week or so" [zarfplan]/014 Limax says, "Cool. Let me know. All my 'updated' UDIDs were in that email" [zarfplan]/015 marc says (to zarf), "(also sent as a mudmail) just a quick heads up -- the "Learn more..." link for Fealty on http://zarfhome.com/ points to http://zarfhome.com/meanwhile/ " [zarfplan]/016 zarf says, "reminder: don't send me mudmail." [zarfplan]/017 zarf says, "the chance that I will notice it timely is less than 1, and the chance that I will delete it unread is more than 0." [zarfplan]/018 inky says, "the first part seems fine but the second seems like a weirdly self-sabotaging thing to do" [zarfplan]/019 zarf says, "it is my punishment of the MUD for supporting such a feature" [zarfplan]/020 Jota asks, "Aren't you the one being punished, though?" [zarfplan]/021 zarf says, "welcome to my entire life." [zarfplan]/022 Jota says, "I mean, if someone is betatesting one of your apps (for instance), it seems like the MUD doesn't suffer as a whole from you deleting their bug reports unseen." [zarfplan]/023 zarf says, "please send beta testing feedback as regular email." [zarfplan]/024 Gunther says, "oo, reminds me I need to download shinymeanwhile for the shinypad" [zarfplan]/025 marc says, "well, i mentioned in here and sent the mail" [zarfplan]/026 marc says, "figured you should see one" [zarfplan]/027 zarf says, "email or twitter is reliable. mud stuff is not" [zarfplan]/028 marc says, "okay" [zarfplan]/029 marc says, "or you could pretend i didn't mention anything" [zarfplan]/030 Jota says (to Zarf), "@oset nomail" [zarfplan]/031 zarf says, "woo hoo!" [zarfplan]/032 zarf says, "thank you" [zarfplan]/033 zarf says, "assuming you did it" [zarfplan]/034 Jota says, "You're welcome." Recapped 34 of 34 lines from misc/personal/zarfplan. [zarfplan] Jota says, "(I am assuming the same.)" Lionheart can see a dream in your dance. Lionheart can see tomorrow in your dance. We can call it, "our hope"! "The-the-the criticism people have of your position, Reverend, is... you want God out of everything!" -- Megyn Kelly, 16 Apr 2010 "You'd rather have a male technician? Do you have a racial or religious preference, so I can tell dispatch who to send?" [rpg] Iain says, "I think my power was so fuzzily defined I was basically Sylar, but it was okay because I was better-written." [science] two-star says, "The "Online Dating Doesn't Work, Scientists Say" headline is still my favorite." [rpg] Rob asks, "Sylar?" [rpg] Iain says, "From Heroes" [rpg] Jota says, "Heroes character." [rpg] Rob says, "I never watched even one episode of that, weirdly enough" [rpg] Jota says, "Huh, ten year reuinion." [rpg] Jota says, "Alison would be a teenager." [rpg] Rob says, "I just remember everyone being very inventive and spontaneous and funny for several weeks running" [rpg] Iain says, "It started okay and got absolutely awful" [rpg] Iain says, "Months, you mean" [rpg] Rob says, "well I may only remember weeks but it may actually have been months" [health] Allen | "Panda dung is a truly good fertilizer, but it does not have the ability to create cancer-preventing plants," said Zhang Hemin, director of the Wolong Giant Panda Protection Research Center. [rpg] Rob says, "I'm like the doctor, I have a different perspective on time after all these years" [rpg] Jota says, "I am not sure that Alison would be as fun to play as a teenager." [rpg] Rob says, "there was another rpg I played with inky in the 7th Sea arena that was also really good" [rpg] Jota asks, "Musketeers?" [rpg] maga asks (of Jota), "who says we have to age?" [rpg] Rob says, "I arranged to have a heroic death scene for my character at the climax of the adventure" [rpg] Iain asks, "I remember hearing people loved Helvetica. Was that Miseri's campaign?" [rpg] Jota says (to maga), "An Alison who hasn't aged for ten years might be even creepier." [rpg] Jota says (to Iain), "Yeah." [rpg] maga says (to Iain), "it was indeed awesome" [rpg] Rob says, "my character was a rough loud extrovert, I remember that" [rpg] Rob says, "who eventually fell from a great height, kind of like tom baker's doctor" [rpg] Rob says, "ah man, marvelous and silly and meaningful all at the same time" [rpg] two-star says, "This all makes me wish I was any darned good at this sort of thing, but I'm not, and I suspect I would just make things less fun for everybody." [rpg] Rob says, "your saying that actually makes me think you'd do just fine" [rpg] Jota asks, "'Constantin Souzet'?" [rpg] Rob says, "I still have some ambition to GM something" [rpg] Rob says, "something where I've got a lot of it worked out but the way people play it helps me figure out the last bunch of it" [rpg] two-star says, "I dunno. My friend I used to rpg with stopped inviting me." [rpg] Rob says (to Jota), "ooh" [rpg] two-star says, "er, friends." [mud-updates] * NewsBoy hollers, "Extra! Extra! Jota has posted message 157, about 'nomail option', to the bulletin board! 'Wow,' said David Spergel, an astrophysicist at Princeton who was not involved in the work." [rpg] Jota says, "(Which I found from http://strackenz.spod-central.org/~lpsmith/rpg/transcripts/musketeers/ )" [rpg] Rob says, "mais oui, constantin souzet, formidable" [rpg] Rob says, "alors" [mud-updates] Matthew asks, "David Spergel doesn't deal with mudmail, either? What the hell does this guy DO, anyway?!?" [rpg] Rob says, "musketeers! of course" [mud-updates] Jon says, "astrophysics" [rpg] Rob says, "hmm, 'Valentin', no wonder I was so strongly thinking there was a 'V' name" [gender] Allen says, "neat: http://www.economist.com/blogs/prospero/2012/04/fairy-tales " [mud-updates] Matthew says, "A LIKELY STORY." [rpg] Rob says, "halfway through: Constantin says (to Valentin), "Be wary. I have an ill feeling in the pit of my stomach tonight."" [gender] Allen | Clever, resourceful girls also make an appearance. The Three Princesses tells the story of sisters enslaved by a witch, the youngest of whom saves an unsuspecting prince in an ingenious way. Grabbing a sword, she magically turns herself into a lake, which the old witch sucks down. The princess slashes her way out of the witch?s belly and claims her prince. [rpg] Rob says, "I must have already worked out with the GM that things were going to get dark by the finish" [rpg] Rob says, "either that or I was thinking ahead about it" [overheard] mamster says, "Briefly" [rpg] Rob | Constantin feels fear. This surprises him. [overheard] mamster says, "I thought I just overheard 'We all know bowling is not okay'" [overheard] mamster says, "Then realized, wait, bullying" [gender] Ryan says, "Neat! I want a copy." [overheard] Jota says, "BOWLING NOT BULLYING" [overheard] Jota says, "That is my new poster." [rpg] Iain says, "Heh" [twitter] Matthew says, "I have a feeling I know the answer to this." [twitter] Matthew says, "But just in case." [twitter] Jota says, "'140'" [twitter] Jota says, "(You're welcome.)" [twitter] Matthew says, "If you know that a certain account said something on Twitter in the past, and you even know the wording, but you can't remember WHEN it was said..." [twitter] Matthew asks, "...is there any way to easily find it?" Paste started. Type @endpaste to end. Paste mode ended. [twitter] Jota asks, "Google?" [twitter] Alex says (to Jota), "Awwwk! Word on the street is that Google is a good search engine at http://www.google.com which tends to return more relevant results than other engines." Paste started. Type @endpaste to end. [overheard] Roger says, "Bowelling is never okay" [rpg] Rob | Constantin shouts, "You are under arrest, by authority of the de La Fleur Musketeers." [rpg] Rob | Game_Master says, "Constantin and Valentin run for the ladders. Andres stabs at Juliana. Antoine runs looking for the exit." [rpg] Rob | Constantin starts to climb up to the catwalk. Paste mode ended. [twitter] Matthew says, "I've tried Googling Twitter accounts in the past and had almost no success." Jota turns into a slimy toad! Thunder rumbles quietly overhead. Jota is gone. Hugo has seen a million lounges, and he's rocked them all. Johnny says, "Hi Hugo" Paste started. Type @endpaste to end. [rpg] Rob | Constantin advances a step. [rpg] Rob | Constantin checks his footing. [rpg] Rob | Constantin says, "Drop the weapon, monsieur." [rpg] Rob | Gregor suddenly hurls the empty pistol at Valentin and charges for Constantin, making a break for the ladder. [rpg] Rob | Valentin ducks the pistol, and runs after Gregor, attempting to tackle him. [rpg] Rob | Constantin, surprised, grasps at Gregor. [rpg] Rob | Gregor roars as he slams into Constantin. The two of them suddenly start to tip backwards. [rpg] Rob | Constantin hears wood breaking. [rpg] Rob | Gregor grabs frantically for a handhold. [rpg] Rob | Constantin feels his weight tip over the railing. He grabs hold of Gregor's costume. [rpg] Rob | Constantin says, "We go down together, villain!" Paste mode ended. [twitter] Matthew says, "Okay, now I know the DATE on which the tweet was made, but I still don't know how to actually get there easily." Paste started. Type @endpaste to end. [rpg] Rob | Game_Master says, "with the one ladder snapped, the catwalk is creaking dangerously as Valentin slides to the ground." [rpg] Rob | Valentin runs to the ladder and slides down. [rpg] Rob | Gregor roars again, as Constantin pulls his hands free -- the two of them slip off the ladder and fall with a crash to the ground. [rpg] Rob | Constantin >< [rpg] Rob | Game_Master says, "(meanwhile, there are voices on the audience side of the curtain)" Paste mode ended. Rob heads right on out. Find release from your cares. have a good time. Seeya later.