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ifMUD
An interactive real time social network chat bulletin board
quotebook url database with a parrot bot
Copyright 1997-2007 by Loungent Technologies, a wholly owned subsidiary of
rec.[arts|games].int-fiction; All rights reserved.
Release 4 / Serial number 990908 / perlMUD v2.1z
    "The characters were mostly of the cardboard cutout variety.
    I wanted to punch everyone except the one Scottish guy."
         --Jearl
  NOTE: Whenever a fix or enhancement is in place, it will be announced
  on the channel '#mud-updates'.
  OTHER NOTE: There is a mailing list where people can say things like
  "hey, the mud's down, what's up with that?" In fact, since this is
  the only thing the list is used for, you should join it if you are
  interested in this subject. To join, go to
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  or talk to Steve.
Robinson Manor
A gracious, welcoming, airy space. Music drifts in from unseen speakers. A picture window on the southern wall provides a pleasant source of light and a sense of openness.
You can see: teleporter, a picture window, comfy sofa, Jeopardy podium, buzzer1, buzzer2, buzzer3, Jota greets Rob
Visible Exits: west, east
<Rob> that's me, mr busytown
No new channels have been created since your last check.
Adventurer's Lounge
Candles on the wood-panelled walls create a comfortably dark atmosphere. Hand-drawn maps are taped to nearly every surface -- the walls, the ceiling, the trophy case in the corner. Seating is plentiful. A small storage closet is to the north.
You can see: new laundry list, Birthday Calendar, magic laundry list, banner reading "Happy birthday Alazoral!", Even Newer World Map, charset sampler, Automeeter, TheMasterTheorem player names, time zones, MUD Client Wish List
Players: Alex, Jon, markm, Allen, DorianX, Bishop, Dave, GDorn, Psmith, jpt, Matthew, Ryan, Jearl, Doug, schep, Jaybird, Grocible, Johnny, maga, marc, Nitku, Fang, Iain, Hjalfi, Marktwo, Touchy, Whizzard, Richie, Gunther, zarf, vimes, Hugo, Roger, skyfaller, two-star, inky, Guenni, baf, DavidW
Visible Exits: north, west, southwest, southeast, up, east
Rob comes right on in.
Recapping 667 of 3101 lines from recent channels:
[videogames]/06:46 Johnny asks, "Are the microtransactions in a Play 4 Free twice as much as for a Free 2 Play game?"
[videogames]|06:47 Gunther says, "heh"
[English]|06:49 olethros | they have found application to/in recommending news articles
[English]|06:49 olethros says, "I'd rather write 'in news article recommendation'"
[tangent]|06:49 Fang asks, "how do they come up with these names?"
[tangent]|06:50 Fang says, "they seem lacking in gravitas, somehow"
[tangent]|06:50 Gunther says, "they're all sweet desserts"
[tangent]|06:50 Gunther says, "Donut, Eclair, Froyo, Gingerbread, Honeycomb, Ice Cream Sandwich"
[tangent]|06:50 Johnny says, "They rake in a lot of dough from the 1% of customers that eat their phones all the time."
[tangent]|06:50 Fang says, "sure, but with ubuntu at... oh, I forgot about honeycomb"
[tangent]|06:51 Gunther says, "as Google wishes you would"
[tangent]|06:51 Johnny says, "You can eat honeycomb."
[tangent]|06:51 Fang says, "well, it also seems relatively unhealthy, compared to Apple"
[tangent]|06:51 Johnny says, "You just have to pick off the bees' legs."
[tangent]|06:51 Gunther says, "Honeycomb was the emergency "for the love of fuck stop putting 2.x on tablets, you're making us look like drooling morons" release"
[tangent]|06:51 Fang asks, "also, what do they do when they get to X?"
[tangent]|06:52 Hjalfi asks, "What's the next one? Jello?"
[tangent]|06:52 Gunther asks, "isn't there an artificial sweetener that starts with X?"
[tangent]|06:52 Alex says (to Hjalfi), "Awwwk! Word on the street is that Jello is there's always room for Jello."
[tangent]|06:52 Hjalfi says, "Cow orker was deeply disappointed when F turned out not to be Flapjack."
[tangent]|06:52 Gunther says, "Jello is trademarked, so I assume not"
[tangent]|06:52 Fang asks, "Jellybean?"
[tangent]|06:52 Gunther says, "I think that's it"
[tangent]|06:53 Gunther says, "also yeah, fragmentation is somewhat a problem"
[tangent]|06:53 Fang says (to Gunther), "well, <insert artificial sweetener> would be a rather disappointing dessert"
[tangent]|06:53 Gunther says, "but Apple controls iDevices with an iron fist"
[tangent]|06:53 Gunther says, "they're the only ones who make and sell them, and they're the only ones doing anything with the OS"
[tangent]|06:54 Gunther says, "so you can choose between well-oiled fascism or somewhat shaky freedom"
[tangent]|06:54 Fang says (to Gunther), "by unhealthy, I meant the name"
[tangent]|06:54 Gunther says, "oh"
[English]|06:55 olethros says, "OK. Correcting a French speaker's english is hard."
[English]|06:55 Gunther says, "ZUT ALORS"
[English]|06:56 olethros says, "my brain frequently crashes"
[English]|06:56 olethros says, "word ordering, use of prepositions, is all wrong"
[English]|06:56 Fang says, "c'est la vie"
[English]|06:57 Gunther says, ""guess language of author by grammar mistakes" is a favorite game of mine now"
[whiz-games]|06:58 Whizzard stretches.
[whiz-games]|06:59 Whizzard says, "Hmm, I guess I'm having an all-nighter. Peachy."
[English]|06:59 olethros asks, "can you differentiate italian/french/spanish ?"
[English]|06:59 Gunther says, "not always"
[whiz-games]|06:59 Whizzard says, "Unless my lousy body changes its mind soon and sleeps, of course."
[English]|06:59 olethros says, "they all have somewhat similar syntax, though I suppose there might be signature errors"
[videogames]|06:59 Gunther says, "FUCK"
[videogames]|07:00 Gunther says, "FUCK"
[videogames]|07:00 Gunther says, "Takedown made its goal somehow"
[videogames]|07:00 Gunther says, "#kickstarter-sux"
[videogames]|07:00 olethros says, "april fools!"
[videogames]|07:00 Whizzard asks, "What's Takedown?"
[videogames]|07:01 marc says (to gunther), "you ain't no memba"
[English]|07:01 Fang asks, "references to little grey cells,acknowledgements of oneself as mario, and er... what's the spanish one?"
[videogames]|07:01 olethros says (to fang), "that's belge not french"
[English]|07:02 olethros says (to fang), "that's belge not french"
[videogames]|07:02 olethros says, "lac"
[English]|07:02 Fang says, "it's linguistically french"
[English]|07:02 Fang asks, "I think?"
[English]|07:02 Fang says, "Poirot never struck me as being very in touch with his flemish and/or german side"
[English]|07:03 marc says, "the fake moustache permeates everything"
[videogames]|07:03 Gunther says (to Whizzard), "a "tactical hardcore" shooter by a creepy gun nut"
[videogames]|07:03 marc asks, "oh, the 'hobbyist soldier'?"
[videogames]|07:03 Gunther says, "no, another gun nut"
[videogames]|07:03 marc says, "man"
[videogames]|07:03 marc says, "what the hell"
[videogames]|07:03 Gunther says, "best of all, these $200K are to convince investors to fund him to make a game"
[videogames]|07:04 Whizzard says, "Sounds great. I hope they make sure to include lots of school levels."
[videogames]|07:04 Fang says, "not sure why Gunther hated that project so much"
[videogames]|07:04 Gunther says, "so what happens if he doesn't get funding? Nobody knows"
[videogames]|07:04 Gunther says (to Fang), "I fucking hate gun nuts."
[videogames]|07:04 Gunther says, "they're a part of the core of all that's wrong with society"
[videogames]|07:05 Gunther says, "ughhh, Notch"
[videogames]|07:05 Gunther says, "why"
[videogames]|07:05 marc asks, "what did notch do?"
[videogames]|07:05 Gunther says, "donate, and raise awareness"
[videogames]|07:06 Gunther | I checked in at 4 hours left and all the comments said “Notch sent me”
[videogames]|07:06 marc says, "that's not the passwoid"
[videogames]|07:07 Gunther | I can't believe people donated to this. Never mind everything else, they used stolen photos to promote their project.
[videogames]|07:07 olethros asks, "who other than a gun nut would make a gun game?"
[videogames]|07:07 Gunther says, "also, "give me $200K so I can convince investors to make the game happen" is exactly the kind of dubious thing that I'd have thought Fang would hate"
[videogames]|07:08 Fang asks (of Gunther), "this guy was a developer on Rainbow six, I thought?"
[videogames]|07:08 Gunther | Tom Clancy’s Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter and Halo: Reach
[videogames]|07:09 Gunther | $200,000 will bring TAKEDOWN to Alpha. Private investors are lined up, but unsure of the market for an old-school tac shooter. A successful Kickstarter campaign will convince them that this is a viable market.
[videogames]|07:09 Gunther says, "highly doubtful"
[videogames]|07:09 Johnny asks, "So, he got $1000 from every person that liked Halo: Reach?"
[videogames]|07:09 Fang says, "oh, lead designer on Halo Reach"
[videogames]|07:09 Fang says, "Halo Reach was pretty well liked, I thought"
[videogames]|07:10 Fang says, "I played and enjoyed it"
[videogames]|07:10 Johnny says (to Fang), "You could've done more with your thou."
[videogames]|07:10 Gunther says, "whoa"
[videogames]|07:10 Gunther | GAME, the UK’s biggest high street retailer of games, is saved. GAME, and Gamestation, will continue on, and 3,200 jobs secured
[videogames]|07:11 marc asks, "is everyone else seing apostrophes as Bs?"
[videogames]|07:11 marc says, "seeing*"
[videogames]|07:11 marc says, "UK's as UKBs, etc."
[videogames]|07:11 Gunther says, "not I, but I know it's a problem. I try to edit them as best I can but"
[videogames]|07:11 marc says, "not a big deal, just wondering whether i screwed up a setting"
[videogames]|07:11 Gunther says, "nah, they're """smart""""
[videogames]|07:12 marc says, "aha"
[videogames]|07:12 Fang says, "anyway, as far as I can see: veteran developer, starts indie studio, has recent experience making games, wants to make a game in a dead genre. That seems fairly sensible as far as kickstarters go"
[videogames]|07:12 marc says, "tangent: i'm quite impressed with irssi"
[videogames]|07:12 Gunther says, "I used irssi with bitlbee"
[videogames]|07:12 marc says, "it renders the registered trademark symbol as (R), etc."
[videogames]|07:12 marc says, "smart quotes are translated and so on"
[videogames]|07:12 marc says, "bug fang, kickstarter is pure evil"
[videogames]|07:13 marc says, "but*"
[videogames]|07:13 Fang says, "Before Gunther says anything, the type of game he wants to make, closer to the original rainbow sixes and swat, is distinct from the modern warfare type FPSes"
[videogames]|07:13 Gunther says, "I know"
[videogames]|07:13 Fang says (to marc), "yes it is."
[videogames]|07:14 olethros says, "the game itself sounds interesting."
[videogames]|07:14 Fang says, "hence 'as far as kickstarters go'"
[headlines]|07:15 olethros | Airlines' treatment of passengers slowly improves
[videogames]|07:15 Fang says, "personally I think this project will still fail."
[videogames]|07:15 Gunther says, "I cannot believe that of all the kickstarters, the one that is the shadiest is the one you defend."
[videogames]|07:15 olethros says, "I don't know if the _project_ is worthwhile; the game idea, I like"
[videogames]|07:17 Fang says (to Gunther), "I just don't see this project as being especially shadey beyond the usual kickstarter-suxitude"
[English]|07:17 Gunther says, "yup, I can even tell from the commas."
[English]|07:17 Gunther | But I do think, it is worth that people will read the opinion of someone, who actually likes the game
[videogames]|07:17 Gunther says (to Fang), "the $200K *don't even fund the game*! That's the difference!"
[English]|07:17 olethros says, "italian!"
[English]|07:17 Gunther says, "no."
[travel]|07:18 olethros says, "mmmm Calabira"
[travel]|07:18 olethros says, "*Calabria"
[videogames]|07:18 Fang says (to Gunther), "and they are *up front* about that. Vs the wasteland guys who think they can make a game in a year"
[English]|07:18 Gunther says, "German, of course"
[videogames]|07:18 Gunther asks, "so Wasteland you may get later. This you may not get at all, if the alleged "private funding" falls through. Then... what?"
[English]|07:19 olethros says, "this is much worse than most german-origin english I've read"
[videogames]|07:19 Fang says, "the same with Wasteland"
[videogames]|07:19 Fang says, "you may well not get wasteland at all."
[videogames]|07:20 Nitku says, "I kinda wish there would be a high-profile project that gets funded but the authors just take the money and disappear"
[videogames]|07:20 Gunther says, "yes, but that is not directly dependent on nonexistent mysterious private investors"
[videogames]|07:20 Fang says (to Nitku), "Sword of the Stars 2 is close to it"
[videogames]|07:20 Gunther says (to Nitku), "lockpicks, I think"
[videogames]|07:20 Nitku says, "because now people are just throwing money at everything without any thought"
[videogames]|07:20 Fang says, "not funded on kickstarter"
[videogames]|07:21 Fang says, "but a lot of people got heavily stun by pre-ordering it"
[videogames]|07:21 Fang says (to Gunther), "yes, but at least they are honest about the risks"
[videogames]|07:22 Gunther says, "if you read the FAQ you already know the risks."
[videogames]|07:23 Fang says, "the takedown guys promise an alpha build with 200k"
[videogames]|07:23 Gunther asks, "and then the funding falls through, and..?"
[videogames]|07:24 Fang says (to Gunther), "I don't see anything in the wasteland FAQ"
[videogames]|07:24 Gunther says, "the Kickstarter FAQ."
[videogames]|07:24 Fang says (to Gunther), "and you get a crappy 200k alpha build"
[videogames]|07:25 Gunther says, "wonderful"
[videogames]|07:25 Fang says, "same could happen for wasteland 2"
[videogames]|07:25 Gunther says, "again, W2 doesn't depend on outside funding."
[videogames]|07:26 Fang says, "it depends on the competence of people who haven't made a game for almost as long as I've been born"
[videogames]|07:26 Fang says, "and their ability to do better than the developers of the original fallout did"
[videogames]|07:26 Gunther rolls eyes
[videogames]|07:35 Gunther says, "ANYWAY let's talk about Age of Asperger's, which we can agree on is terrible"
[videogames]|07:36 Gunther says, "I tried the demo and ... it's ... a succession of static screens with CYOA choices, followed by some graphics that 1994 would be ashamed of"
[lounge]|07:43 * Touchy has disconnected.
[lounge]|07:43 * Touchy has connected.
[videogames]|07:44 Gunther says, "I wonder how long Jeff Vogel needs to churn out one of his games"
[videogames]|07:44 Gunther says, "he claims one year"
[lounge]|07:45 Touchy has no home.
[lounge]|07:45 * Touchy has disconnected.
[videogames]|07:45 Fang says, "Vogel reuses assets like mad"
[videogames]|07:45 Gunther says, "yeah, I know - this is unrelated"
[lounge]|07:45 Touchy [The bird's score has just gone up by one point.]
[UK]|07:47 Fang says, "I wonder if the government is just trying to do as many unpopular things as possible in a short period"
[UK]|07:47 Fang says, "to make people forget about the last thing"
[videogames]|07:47 Gunther says, "apparently he once refunded someone because they couldn't stop playing the game"
[videogames]|07:47 Fang says, "haha"
[news]|07:51 olethros asks, "is 'news' a singular noun in a plural form, or is it really plural?"
[news]|07:52 Gunther says, "depends on whether you're in the UK or US, I think"
[news]|07:52 olethros says, "e.g. (The) News is/are subject to trends"
[news]|07:52 olethros says, "I think if you say 'The news' then it is singular"
[news]|07:53 Gunther says, ""the news coming out of Fukushima weren't encouraging""
[videogames]|07:54 Gunther says, "ah, here: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3409803&pagenumber=5#post397346683 "
[news]|07:54 olethros says, "Hm, I think both"
[video]|07:55 Fang says, "hah http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0s0xBEqc7c4 "
[news]|07:56 Fang says, "I think singular"
[video]|07:56 Gunther says, "ha ha"
[news]|07:56 olethros says, "How about the example sentence? I would be talking about different news"
[video]|07:56 Gunther says, ""hurrk""
[news]|07:56 olethros | News are subject to trends.
[video]|07:57 Gunther asks, "is that one of the Doctors Who?"
[video]|07:57 Gunther says, "(voiceover)#"
[whiz-games]|07:57 Whizzard says, "Ooo, I need to get some Ovaltine."
[whiz-games]|07:57 Gunther asks, "is that the same as ovomaltine?"
[whiz-games]|07:58 Whizzard asks, "I...doubt it?"
[whiz-games]|07:58 Gunther asks, "brownish powder, becomes chocolatey drink?"
[whiz-games]|07:59 Gunther | Ovaltine was developed in Berne, Switzerland, where it is known by its original name, Ovomaltine
[whiz-games]|07:59 Whizzard says, "Ok, then yes."
[whiz-games]|08:00 Whizzard says, "It also makes a bitchin' milkshake."
[news]|08:00 Fang says, "Well, I mean, I'd say 'terrible news is filtering out of blah blah'"
[whiz-games]|08:04 Whizzard says, "Ok, I'm gonna go shopping."
[whiz-games]|08:05 Whizzard says, "I'll bbiaf."
[whiz-games]|08:05 Gunther asks, "fortnight?"
[news]|08:13 baf says, "I vaguely recall something about someone asking 'Are there any news?' and receiving the reply 'Not a new.'"
[videogames]|08:15 Gunther says (to baf), "oh here you are"
[videogames]|08:15 Gunther says (to baf), "I regret to inform you of http://www.indiegala.com "
[videogames]|08:16 Gunther says, "which has no games any other bundle has had"
[videogames]|08:17 K-Y says, "I was going to regret to inform him that the Ultimate Edition of Faerie Solitaire 2 can now be preordered for $1000"
[videogames]|08:20 Gunther says, "ha ha"
[videogames]|08:20 Gunther says, "plus %99,999,999 shipping"
[videogames]|08:20 Gunther says, "er, $"
[videogames]|08:20 K-Y says, " http://subsoap.com/games/faerie-solitaire-2/ "
[news]|08:20 Fang asks, "and then swiftly delivering a punch in the face?"
[videogames]|08:21 Fang says, "oh yeah, that sale"
[videogames]|08:21 Fang says, "I have not heard of any of these games"
[videogames]|08:22 Gunther says, "at least one of them is by a german developer"
[videogames]|08:24 Fang says, "looking at http://www.indieroyale.com/ ..."
[videogames]|08:24 Fang says, "... yup, we've definitely passed Peak Bundle"
[videogames]|08:24 Gunther says (to K-Y), "this looks like a game I wouldn't play if they *paid* me $1000"
[videogames]|08:24 Gunther asks, "which one was the utterly terrible one with the indie music bands and games?"
[videogames]|08:25 Gunther says, "however, the indie gala one has at least 3 good games"
[videogames]|08:25 K-Y says, "I did not know about it until baf blogged the first game in detail"
[videogames]|08:25 Gunther says, "and one definite shit game"
[videogames]|08:26 Fang asks (of Gunther), "you've actually heard of these?"
[videogames]|08:26 Gunther says, "I picked it up"
[videogames]|08:27 Fang says, "huh"
[videogames]|08:27 Fang says, "who are you and what did you do with the real gunther"
[lounge]|08:27 Heron rocks and its feet rock too.
[videogames]|08:27 Gunther says, "I'd have picked it up for Greed alone"
[videogames]|08:28 Fang asks, "what's greed?"
[videogames]|08:28 Gunther says, "you can click on the games and get 10-minute-ish trailers"
[videogames]|08:28 Gunther says, "it's an sf ARPG"
[...]|08:29 Gunther | A Pakistani judge on Monday sentenced Osama bin Laden's three widows and two daughters to 45 days house detention for living illegally in Pakistan, the widows' lawyer said.
[videogames]|08:30 Fang says, "I can't find it in google"
[...]|08:30 Gunther asks, "followed by "they lived illegally in Pakistan for another 45 days, DEATH SENTENCE"?"
[videogames]|08:30 Gunther says, " http://store.steampowered.com/app/46400/ "
[videogames]|08:31 Fang says, "3/10 review on gamezone.com :/"
[videogames]|08:32 Gunther says, "are you deliberately trying to get me to strangle you to death"
[videogames]|08:33 Fang exclaims (at Gunther), "my throat just feels so loose!"
[videogames]|08:34 Fang says, "and in need of massage"
[photo]|08:35 Fang says, "woah"
[photo]|08:35 Fang says, " http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html "
[photo]|08:35 Fang says, "Roland Emmerich, eat your heart out"
[lounge]|08:36 matthew says, "Hey everyone."
[lounge]|08:36 Whizzard goes to hamstring some zombies.
[lounge]|08:36 * Whizzard has disconnected.
[lounge]|08:36 matthew says, "OH NO I THOUGHT APRIL FOOL'S DAY WAS OVER"
[photo]|08:36 Fang says, "(kinda silly to call this one astronomy, though)"
[photo]|08:36 Gunther says, "it does have stars in the background"
[lounge]|08:36 Gunther says, "trapped!"
[april-fools-day]|08:37 Matthew asks, "So, seriously, what did I miss yesterday besides screwed-up capitalization on names?"
[photo]|08:37 Fang says, "true"
[photo]|08:37 Fang says, "and earth *is* in space"
[april-fools-day]|08:38 Fang asks, "google quest?"
[april-fools-day]|08:38 Gunther says, "nothing"
[april-fools-day]|08:38 Matthew says, "Oh, sorry, I meant on the MUD."
[april-fools-day]|08:38 Gunther says, "wacky dates on finger/who, like every year"
[lounge]|08:39 Jota arrives from the east.
[lounge]|08:39 Jota greets.
[lounge]|08:40 Matthew says, "Hey Jota"
[april-fools-day]|08:40 Fang says, "huh"
[april-fools-day]|08:44 olethros says, "wacky dates everywhere"
[personals]|08:44 olethros says, "Wacky Dating"
[lounge]|08:44 olethros says, "J-T"
[English]|08:45 olethros says, "muahaha, poorest english was not by the french student, but by the german professor"
[English]|08:45 olethros says, "(syntax at least)"
[lounge]|08:51 Jota says, "Hey."
[lounge]|08:51 Jota turns into a slimy toad!
[videogames]|08:57 Gunther says, "No, GameFAQs, trophy lists are not cheats."
[lounge]|09:04 Whizzard built your house with his bare hands. He is also your dad and the inventor of corn chips, and if you look out your window, that guy doing calisthenics on the lawn is also Whizzard.
[whiz-games]|09:04 Whizzard says, "back"
[whiz-games]|09:04 Whizzard says, "with ovaltine"
[whiz-games]|09:04 Whizzard says, "And some turkey bacon, because what the hell."
[whiz-games]|09:05 Gunther says, "hey-ho"
[whiz-games]|09:09 Whizzard says, "heyo"
[whiz-games]|09:09 Whizzard says, "3 minute eggs, check. toast, check. turkey bacon, check. ovaltine, check."
[whiz-games]|09:10 Whizzard says, "An odd, but tasty breakfast."
[whiz-games]|09:11 vimes says, "yum."
[whiz-games]|09:12 Gunther says, "sounds good but for the ovaltine"
[whiz-games]|09:12 Whizzard says, "Don't besmirch me ovaltine."
[whiz-games]|09:13 vimes says, "i make a horrible bastard drink of ovaltine, malted milk powder, and hershey's chocolate syrup"
[whiz-games]|09:13 vimes says, "i usually eat it alongside several amazingly cheap pink hot dogs on wonderbread buns"
[whiz-games]|09:14 vimes says, "for those playing along at home, this is a huge departure from my usual "made from scratch with things we grew in the garden" fare"
[whiz-games]|09:14 Whizzard says, "Each to their own, I say"
[whiz-games]|09:14 Whizzard says, "Sometimes you just have to eat the crap you grew up on."
[whiz-games]|09:14 vimes says, "you're darn tootin' you do"
[jobs]|09:15 Hjalfi says, "Thank you, Spanish $VENDOR, for sending us a bunch of your phones that are all simlocked to a Spanish carrier we can't get here. That's helpful."
[whiz-games]|09:15 Whizzard says, "It's weird, every other type of egg, I have to egg well-done."
[whiz-games]|09:15 Whizzard says, "I hate runny eggs, except, apparently, when that's the whole point."
[whiz-games]|09:15 vimes asks, "is a three-minute egg runny white, or just runny yolk?"
[whiz-games]|09:16 Whizzard says, "It's right on the border."
[whiz-games]|09:16 vimes asks, "just barely congealed white?"
[whiz-games]|09:16 Whizzard says, "So you can make it either way."
[whiz-games]|09:16 Gunther says, "I love runny-yolk fried eggs"
[whiz-games]|09:16 Gunther says, "otherwise, might as well throw out the egg white"
[whiz-games]|09:16 Gunther says, "it's the tofu of animal products"
[whiz-games]|09:16 vimes says, "yes indeed.  over-medium or poached are my favorite ways to cook eggs"
[whiz-games]|09:17 Whizzard says, "No, that's tre, I love over easy eggs."
[whiz-games]|09:17 Whizzard says, "true, even. I see my u is sticking again."
[whiz-games]|09:17 vimes says, "the thing i don't like are "real" scrambled eggs, where you cook them just until they hold together"
[whiz-games]|09:17 vimes says, "i like my scrambled eggs lightly browned"
[whiz-games]|09:18 Whizzard says, "Me too, if by lighty browned you mean browned."
[whiz-games]|09:18 vimes says, "(thing are?  ouch)"
[whiz-games]|09:19 vimes says, "hee hee"
[whiz-games]|09:20 Gunther says, "if I make actual scrambled egg, it's usually because I make something along with it"
[whiz-games]|09:20 Gunther says, "like cheese or pieces of dry sausage or for use on noodles"
[Hugo]|09:21 vimes says, "i'd just like to take a moment to say jesus christ, what the hell, print, i never expected to get a pointer-to-random-places error in an IF language"
[Hugo]|09:21 vimes says, "but reading the doc, apparently that's the intended default behavior!"
[Hugo]|09:21 Gunther says, "never used Inform, eh"
[Hugo]|09:21 vimes says, "that's different, those are pointer-to-random-places *successes*"
[Hugo]|09:23 vimes says, "and i have never, for instance, accidentally printed out the entire parser vocabulary in inform, whereas with hugo that's the first thing i did"
[Hugo]|09:23 Gunther says, "heh"
[Hugo]|09:23 Gunther says, "clearly you're not trying hard enough!"
[Hugo]|09:24 vimes says, "pause; print word[0]"
[Hugo]|09:24 vimes says, "it's magic!"
[Hugo]|09:24 vimes says, "(what i actually wanted was print number word[0])"
[Hugo]|09:24 Gunther says, "In Inform"
[Hugo]|09:25 vimes says, "yeah, i'm not sure what the equivalent is in inform, but i suspect it's rather longer"
[Hugo]|09:26 marc says, "heh"
[Hugo]|09:26 vimes says, "(this came up while i was debugging why sleepmask wasn't sending the return key to inform menus)"
[Hugo]|09:26 vimes says, "(er, hugo menus NOW YOU HAVE ME ALL CONFUSED)"
[Hugo]|09:26 marc says (to vimes), "i didn't know you wrote hugo"
[Hugo]|09:26 vimes says, "turns out it also wasn't sending the return key to inform menus, but they take right-arrow by default, i guess"
[Hugo]|09:27 marc asks, "testing some stuff out or is this part of a propah project?"
[Hugo]|09:27 vimes says (to marc), "i don't, i wrote pause; print word[0]"
[Hugo]|09:27 vimes says, "testing stuff out.  bb #floyd 8 for the thing i was working on"
[lounge]|09:29 Richie is here!
[Hugo]|09:29 marc says, "oh right"
[lounge]|09:29 Richie says, "Aloha!"
[Hugo]|09:29 marc says, "awesome work btw"
[lounge]|09:30 Whizzard says, "heylo"
[lounge]|09:30 marc says, "whzzi"
[Hugo]|09:30 vimes says, "i've been thinking about how to do that for a while, and zarf came along and solved the glk problem, which meant i didn't have to learn how to write a glk interface"
[whiz-games]|09:30 Whizzard says, "Ahh, good breakfast. One more glass of ovaltine and my craving should be good for awhile."
[health]|09:31 marc says, "day 3: mouse is great"
[health]|09:31 (from olethros) marc says, "cat is dead"
[Hugo]|09:31 vimes says, "once he did, 354 lines of ruby and about ten of perl turned floyd into a status-bar-showing machine"
[Hugo]|09:31 vimes says, "as opposed to just the all-singing, all-dancing machine he was before"
[Hugo]|09:32 marc asks, "wait, floyd's written in ruby?"
[Hugo]|09:32 vimes says, "no, floyd's written in perl, sleepmask is written in ruby"
[Hugo]|09:32 marc says, "aha"
[Hugo]|09:32 marc asks, "presumably floyd's a perl module included by the mud?"
[Hugo]|09:32 vimes says, "no, he's a separate bot"
[Hugo]|09:33 marc says, "unpresumed"
[Hugo]|09:34 vimes says, " http://ifmud.port4000.com/floyd-pl.txt is his source code, minus the sleepmask parts"
[Hugo]|09:34 vimes says, "(but they're not that interesting, it's just handling "sleepmask <game>" when he's doing a load and calling sleepmask --interpreter <terp> game instead of <terp> game)"
[Hugo]|09:37 marc says, "no, interesting to see"
[lounge]|09:38 Heron goes home.
[Hugo]|09:39 vimes says, "and here's sleepmask:"
[Hugo]|09:39 vimes | http://ifmud.port4000.com/sleepmask.txt
[Floyd]|09:40 vimes says, "oh, hey, also floyd was opening terps twice"
[Floyd]|09:40 vimes says, "i also fixed that"
[Floyd]|09:40 marc says, "cool"
[Floyd]|09:42 vimes says (to marc), "here's the bits added to floyd to support loading sleepmask:"
[Floyd]|09:42 vimes | http://ifmud.port4000.com/floyd-pl-sleepmask-diff.txt
[Floyd]|09:45 marc says, "aha, the open2"
[Floyd]|09:47 vimes says, "yeah, he was doing both open2 and open3"
[Floyd]|09:49 vimes says, "sleepmask was fun to write - first time I've really had a good excuse to bust out EventMachine"
[Floyd]|09:50 marc asks, "is that why you chose ruby?"
[Floyd]|09:51 vimes says, "yeah, it was the first language that came to mind that had both a good stream json parser and an event-driven reactor conveniently available"
[Floyd]|09:51 vimes says, "i'm sure i did a horrible job of putting together clean EventMachine code, but it works great"
[videogames]|09:52 Gunther says, "hmmm. http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/2/2918839/superbrothers-sword-sworcery-ep-steam-release-rumor "
[Floyd]|09:52 vimes says, "the savename hack i put into remglk also works great, but it's embarassing"
[Floyd]|09:52 vimes | http://ifmud.ziz.org/~devesine/remglk-hack.diff.txt
[Floyd]|09:54 vimes says, "(remglk did not have a method of querying for the name to save, and zarf won't have time to put in a proper method for at least a couple weeks, and i wanted to play with it nowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, see)"
[programming]|10:03 olethros says, "I am tempted to just use awk and gnuplot rather than octave for these plots"
[Monkey-Island]|10:04 * NewsBoy hollers, "Extra! Extra! Gunther has posted message 17, about 'MI The Board Game', to the bulletin board! Everybody gets a car, indeed."
[Monkey-Island]|10:07 Matthew says, "Ugh, I've always hated the cartoony look of the later games."
[Monkey-Island]|10:07 Matthew says, "It just seems so wrong."
[Monkey-Island]|10:09 Gunther says, "better that than MI4"
[Monkey-Island]|10:13 Matthew says, "I couldn't even stomach MI3, so I never played 4."
[Monkey-Island]|10:13 Gunther says, "it is truly the worst"
[emoticons]|10:15 Nitku says, "I suppose ^O^ is supposed to be eyes and a mouth but it looks like an emoticon for shrugging"
[jobs]|10:16 katre says, "ah, it's my week as build cop"
[jobs]|10:16 katre says, "I arrive to the office and.... every automated test is broken"
[emoticons]|10:16 Gunther says, "I've only seen it as shrugging"
[Monkey-Island]|10:16 Matthew asks, "What made it so bad?"
[Monkey-Island]|10:17 Gunther says, "the graphics, the controls, the writing except for one joke, the controls, the "puzzles", the controls, and also the controls"
[Monkey-Island]|10:17 Matthew says, "Yeah, but besides that."
[Monkey-Island]|10:17 Gunther says, "hmm, the controls"
[Monkey-Island]|10:18 Gunther says, "also Monkey Kombat"
[Monkey-Island]|10:18 Gunther says, "the absolute best decision of MI2 was not to have Insult anything"
[Monkey-Island]|10:18 Gunther says, "3's was meh. 4's was infuriating."
[jobs]|10:22 Iain says, "You haven't watched any Dirty Harry movies recently, I hope."
[lounge]|10:23 baf, when not running competitively, works as a tree surgeon in France.
[jobs]|10:23 katre says, "hmm, nope"
[jobs]|10:23 Iain says, "Friends don't let friends take being a cop in a lawless town too seriously"
[jobs]|10:23 katre says, "heh"
[jobs]|10:23 Iain says, "Although I bet that approach would totally work"
[workplace]|10:29 Iain says, "Zow, potential embarrassment avoided."
[workplace]|10:29 Iain says, "Co-worker came over to discuss an issue, and I suggest following the instructions on a wiki page, and said I'd IM her the link"
[workplace]|10:29 Iain says, "And I went to do so but totally forgot her name"
[workplace]|10:30 (from Matthew) Iain says, "Man, Iaina will never forgive me."
[workplace]|10:31 Iain says, "I guess if she was still standing there I could just say 'what's your username again?'"
[workplace]|10:31 Iain says (to Matthew), "Ha"
[workplace]|10:31 Iain says, "I quickly scanned through my inbox because I recalled she'd sent a mail recently"
[workplace]|10:31 katre says (to iain), "my go-to move is to ask "Now, how do you spell your email again?""
[workplace]|10:31 Iain says, "But then her name popped into my head anyway, whew"
[workplace]|10:31 Jon says, "just wait for her to IM you and say 'so where's that thing then?'"
[workplace]|10:31 Jon says, "or that"
[lounge]|10:31 Hjalfi says (to someone), "I can never remember people's names."
[workplace]|10:31 katre says, "because it's socially easier to say I forget the spelling than that I forget the entire thing"
[lounge]|10:31 Hjalfi says, "ILAC."
[workplace]|10:31 Iain says, "Right"
[workplace]|10:31 Matthew asks (of Iain), "Wht was it, just out of curiosity?"
[workplace]|10:32 Hjalfi says, "See lounge."
[workplace]|10:32 katre says, "but then sometimes I end up claiming I can't spell 'fred@', so"
[workplace]|10:32 Iain says, "Optimistic conclusion: I need more sleep"
[workplace]|10:32 Matthew says (to katre), "Yeah, but then it would be... ha ha ha, right."
[workplace]|10:32 Jon says, "mmm, sleep"
[workplace]|10:32 Iain says, "Pessimistic: this is the onset of senility"
[workplace]|10:32 Jon says, "but it could be 'phredd'"
[workplace]|10:32 Jon says, "you never know"
[workplace]|10:32 Matthew asks (of Jon), "How many 'Phredds' have you met, just out of curiosity?"
[workplace]|10:32 Iain says, "'Oh, huh, I tried it with ph and with two d's, never though of trying f r e d...'"
[workplace]|10:33 Iain says, "Timing."
[workplace]|10:34 Jon says (to Matthew), "well, the ldap username need have no relation to the person's name"
[workplace]|10:34 Jon says, "I know, for instance, we have an 'inky' who is actually an older woman, and not a parrot's father"
[workplace]|10:34 Iain says, "This is a friend of an ex and we've been to gigs and stuff, so it would be particularly awkward to forget her name."
[workplace]|10:36 Jon says, "I'm actually amazed I got 'jonr'"
[lounge]|10:40 Gunther says, "zoop"
[lounge]|10:40 Gunther was like watching the world's most boring car crash, and then someone with a monotone voice overanalyzing it.
[lounge]|10:41 * Marktwo has disconnected.
[lounge]|10:41 * Marktwo has connected.
[music]|10:50 Matthew says, "I've been listening to this same song over and over for like the last hour and a half."
[music]|10:50 Matthew says, "I keep trying to get sick of it, and it just isn't happening."
[music]|10:51 Iain says, "I hope it's at least a good song."
[Theatre]|10:51 Matthew says, "Dear lord.  Kill me now.  http://ht.ly/a1BbZ "
[music]|10:56 Matthew says, "Dear God.  http://lockerz.com/s/197879285 "
[lounge]|10:57 Dave says, "morning"
[lounge]|10:59 Dave signed MUD Client Wish List.
[lounge]|11:01 Fang says, "yikes"
[lounge]|11:05 Richie asks, "Is someone planning to make this MUD client?"
[lounge]|11:07 Johnny says (to Richie), "I think it kinda depends on how this wish list turns out."
[lounge]|11:08 schep says, "if someone tries, and it doesn't do all these things or is anything less than ideal, obviously we will shun it"
[lounge]|11:09 Richie says, "Iiinteresting."
[lounge]|11:09 Fang says, "and shun the creator, making him wear the hat of shame"
[lounge]|11:10 Jon signed MUD Client Wish List.
[lounge]|11:10 Johnny says, "Which is actually a metal funnel."
[lounge]|11:10 Gunther has a complicated history with pants.
[lounge]|11:11 Gunther says, "re"
[lounge]|11:11 Johnny says, "'Oil caaaan' the children will say as the point and laugh."
[lounge]|11:11 Fang signed MUD Client Wish List.
[lounge]|11:11 Jon says, "Gunther of Guntheria"
[lounge]|11:11 Johnny says, "Speaking of, it's Gunther"
[lounge]|11:11 olethros says, "so, I was walking down the street. Or wait, cycling down the bike path"
[lounge]|11:11 olethros says, "In the distance, I saw a strange vision: a ship, flying in the sky."
[lounge]|11:12 schep asks, "iron bird?"
[lounge]|11:12 Alex says (to schep), "Awwwk! Word on the street is that Iron Bird is from 'Eeeagh! Iron Bird!' which is what Lincoln would say if he were alive today."
[lounge]|11:13 olethros says, "I could quite make it out, but it looked like a single-mast vessel, slightly tilted"
[lounge]|11:13 olethros says, "I heard a helicopter sound, so I scanned the sky a bit more, and sure enough I saw a helicopter, but its movement was different."
[lounge]|11:14 (From Nitku) olethros says, "That's when I remembered I was trippin' balls"
[tangent]|11:15 Fang says, "You know, eeeagh iron bird is a totally unnatural thing for Lincoln to say"
[lounge]|11:15 olethros says, "Then I thought it must be a kite of some sort, but it was a bit weird still. A few moments later I saw a _second_ helicopter above this thing, and then it all made sense."
[tangent]|11:15 Fang asks, "since, why would he know what material the 'bird' was made of?"
[lounge]|11:15 olethros says, "it was some kind of T-like metal thing, being airlifted"
[tangent]|11:15 Fang says, "from a distance, nothing of an airplane would suggest it's metallic"
[tangent]|11:16 olethros says, "shiny"
[tangent]|11:16 Fang exclaims, "planes aren't shiny!"
[tangent]|11:16 schep says, "they can be!"
[tangent]|11:16 olethros says, "depends on the paint job."
[tangent]|11:16 olethros says, "they are shiny if unpainted"
[tangent]|11:16 Ryan asks, "They're matte grey. What else would he guess?"
[tangent]|11:17 Ryan asks, "Granite bird?"
[tangent]|11:17 Fang says (to Ryan), "he wouldn't be able to guess at all"
[tangent]|11:17 Ryan says, "..."
[tangent]|11:17 Fang says, "it's be just 'eeeagh! thing!'"
[tangent]|11:17 Ryan says, "That's just as implausible."
[tangent]|11:17 olethros says, "eeagh! flying ship!"
[tangent]|11:17 olethros says, "more likely"
[tangent]|11:17 Nitku says, "'eeeagh bird'"
[tangent]|11:17 Hjalfi says, "I miss the old polished aluminium Comets. You know, the ones with the superb huge windows and the habit of exploding every now and then."
[tangent]|11:17 olethros says, "birds are recognisable due to wing movement and stuff"
[tangent]|11:18 olethros says, "and they don't fly so straight all the time"
[jobs]|11:18 Jon says, "#commute dear bus, please arrive in time for delicious pancakes"
[tangent]|11:18 Fang says, "I suppose he would know of e.g. congreve rockets"
[tangent]|11:18 schep says, "many birds coast and hold their wings straight for minutes at a time."
[tangent]|11:18 olethros says, "lazywings"
[tangent]|11:18 Fang says, "so maybe he might go 'eeeagh, british are invading!'"
[tangent]|11:19 schep says, "clearly Lincoln should be more precise in his moment of panic."
[tangent]|11:19 Fang says, "heh"
[tangent]|11:19 Nitku says, "An airplane looks more like a bird than a ship"
[people-suk]|11:19 Gunther says, "jesus christ is this conversation actually happening"
[lounge]|11:20 zarf walks in through the wall. Behind him, light shines briefly through, rosy pink this time of day.
[tangent]|11:20 Fang says, "I suppose at altitude it'd just look like the sky is being torn"
[TMI]|11:23 Jon asks, "suppose you lived in 14th century England, and suppose you got stabbed. what sort of stab wound would be most likely to give you septic shock?"
[TMI]|11:23 Gunther says, "always the guts"
[TMI]|11:23 Gunther says, "still not 100% fixable even today"
[people-suk]|11:23 Iain says, "Let me guess from limited recap..."
[people-suk]|11:23 Iain asks, "Are we stupidly overanalysing 'iron bird'?"
[TMI]|11:23 katre says, "being stabbed in the intestines is basically just another way to get peritonitis, which, pre-antibiotics, is pretty fatal"
[TMI]|11:24 Jon asks, "okay. hm, sword or pitchfork?"
[people-suk]|11:24 Gunther says, "no, "we" aren't. Fang is."
[TMI]|11:24 Jon says, "I'm thinking pitchfork."
[people-suk]|11:24 Gunther says, "he must truly be the most joyless person in existence"
[TMI]|11:24 katre says, "anything"
[TMI]|11:24 katre says, "once the intestines are open to the bloodstream it doesn't really matter anymore"
[TMI]|11:25 Hjalfi says, "Pitchforks are good because you end up further from the angry, violent person attached to the sharp end."
[TMI]|11:25 olethros says, "D&D is so broken"
[TMI]|11:26 katre says (to olethros), "I had a chat a while back with one of the guys who started playing Gygax's new game, which he called D&D"
[TMI]|11:26 katre says, "back then, every weapon did d6 damage"
[TMI]|11:26 katre says, "so they quickly realized iron spikes were really cheap and did the same damage as a sword"
[TMI]|11:26 katre says, "gygax fixed that pretty fast"
[TMI]|11:27 Fang says, "I think a stomach wound is more a recipe for slow bleeding death"
[TMI]|11:27 olethros says, "internal bleeding is underrated"
[TMI]|11:27 Fang says, "for septic shock to be a factor, you need a non-lethal wound"
[TMI]|11:28 Jon says, "basically I want 'fever + certain death within 48 hours'"
[TMI]|11:28 marc says, "don't we all"
[TMI]|11:28 katre says (to jon), "poison the weapon, then"
[TMI]|11:29 Johnny says, "With an untraceable poison."
[TMI]|11:29 Johnny says, "(Hate)"
[TMI]|11:29 Jon says, "well, the context here is 'witch hunt with torches and pitchforks, accidental friendly stabbing during'"
[TMI]|11:30 Fang asks, "is this going to be cured?"
[TMI]|11:30 Jon says, "through taking her to a hospital in a higher tech base, yeah."
[TMI]|11:30 Hjalfi says, "The classic easy poison is, of course, shit. Smear the blade with faeces and you induce peritonitis no matter where you stab them."
[TMI]|11:30 Fang asks, "is the patient a pony?"
[TMI]|11:31 Jon says (to Fang), "human child"
[TMI]|11:31 Fang says, "I'm not sure if a pitchfork is sharp enough for an accidental serious wounding"
[TMI]|11:31 Hjalfi says, "I have a vague memory of hearing that in mediaeval times, if you got stabbed and there was the small of faeces, you were given the last rites and then put down. It saved time."
[TMI]|11:32 Hjalfi says, "Oh, accidental? Hmm."
[TMI]|11:33 Nitku says (to Hjalfi), "So whatever you do, don't shit your pants if you get stabbed"
[TMI]|11:33 Gunther says, "a pitchfork would of course be smeared with shit anyway"
[TMI]|11:34 Fang says, "true"
[TMI]|11:34 Johnny says, "This is all blending with #sql"
[TMI]|11:35 Jon says, "the pitchfork is covered with camelcase"
[TMI]|11:35 Fang says, "you could just have the victim trundle though some manure"
[teaching]|11:35 olethros says, "la la la correcting student papers"
[teaching]|11:35 olethros says, "it's kinda fun"
[penny-arcade]|11:36 Jon says, "hahaha"
[penny-arcade]|11:37 Jon says, "yes, this is basically what they look like"
[TMI]|11:37 Hjalfi says, "You could just have the wound get infected by chance --- happens all the time, particularly where there's poor hygeine. In the modern world, we never really notice, because basic antibiotics just make the problem vanish."
[TMI]|11:37 Hjalfi says, "In the old world, you were lucky to live."
[penny-arcade]|11:37 katre says, "eeagh"
[TMI]|11:38 Hjalfi says, "There's a reason why penicillin was considered a wonder drug. You could inject it in someone who had an infection, and was feverish and dying, and they would almost instantly get better."
[TMI]|11:38 Johnny says, "'Sonofabitch this gut wound is itchy. *picks nose* *scratches gut wound*"
[TMI]|11:38 Hjalfi exclaims, "Then of course there's old-wives remedies. Mud compresses for wounds, yum!"
[penny-arcade]|11:38 vimes says, "ha ha ha"
[TMI]|11:39 vimes says, "turns out that a honey pack is actually really good for wounds, though!"
[TMI]|11:40 Hjalfi says, "Oh, yeah, particularly burns. Honey's a weird combination of antiseptic, moisturising and drying at the same time, and is really good for wounds."
[TMI]|11:40 vimes says, "plus, the density of sugar means that most anerobic bacteria have a really hard time surviving in it"
[TMI]|11:41 Fang says, "yes, the infection can easily be introduced afterwards"
[TMI]|11:41 vimes says, "well, you said antiseptic, so s/plus/yeah/"
[TMI]|11:42 Hjalfi says, "Good old fashioned mechanical antibiotics --- it's hard to evolve immunity to having your cell membranes shredded."
[TMI]|11:42 Hjalfi says, "Incidentally, for #ew value: in the old days, cleaning wounds involved using a stiff scrubbing brush and aggressive soap and water. It was not a gentle process."
[TMI]|11:43 Hjalfi says, "Better than dying of infection, though."
[lounge]|11:43 vimes happens to be an Exchange Server Administrator for a living.  You really need to clean up your lounge.
[lounge]|11:46 Hugo flies into the Lounge in his brand new space-car, which he then folds up into a brief case.
[lounge]|11:47 Hugo says, "We made it."
[lounge]|11:48 Roger is the Samuel L. Jackson of 8 month old wolves.
[lounge]|11:48 Roger says, "Greets, meats."
[lounge]|11:49 olethros says, "off!"
[lounge]|11:49 olethros has ordered three mega-generators to be installed in his boathouse.
[lounge]|11:49 skyfaller appears out of nowhere. Killer robotic players on the loose!
[lounge]|11:49 skyfaller wave to everyone
[lounge]|11:50 skyfaller waves to everyone
[lounge]|11:50 skyfaller says, "There, I feel better now that I am grammatically correct."
[health]|11:51 Roger | Is smellier-than-usual urine a sign of a urinary tract infection in a young child? A new study suggests perhaps sometimes.
[lounge]|11:51 * Marktwo has disconnected.
[lounge]|11:51 * Marktwo has connected.
[health]|11:51 Roger exclaims, "Thanks, science!"
[tangent]|11:52 Iain says, "#svn I generally have branches with names like 'scoobydoo' and 'arrrgh'"
[tangent]|11:52 Roger says, "ruhh-roo"
[tangent]|11:52 Iain says, "Probably not strictly best practice"
[tangent]|11:53 zarf says, "and speaking of git, it's time to try something dangerous"
[lounge]|11:53 two-star sought a woman and found a monkey. Well, it happens.
[tangent]|11:53 Nitku says, "Your team members must love that"
[tangent]|11:53 zarf says, "oh boy oh boy"
[tangent]|11:53 Iain says, "Heh"
[tangent]|11:53 Hjalfi exclaims (at zarf), "You're going to try to *use* it!"
[tangent]|11:53 Iain says (to Nitku), "Oh, these are just local branches. (I hope)"
[tangent]|11:54 vimes says (to zarf), "git isn't dangerous!  you can get things back for *hours* if you don't git gc"
[drwho]|11:54 vimes says, "overheard:"
[drwho]|11:54 vimes says, "orker 1: "They're bringing back the Daleks for season 7!""
[tangent]|11:54 Hjalfi says, "...unless you accidentally collapse your history."
[tangent]|11:54 Iain says, "That reminds of 'dogs aren't dangerous!' from Watership Down."
[drwho]|11:54 vimes says, "orker 2: "Man, I hate them, they just keep doing the same thing over and over!""
[lounge]|11:54 inky is home to a race of cosmic sorta-Scottish blacksmith dudes who look and act like colorful, tall Gimlis.
[drwho]|11:54 vimes says, "orker 1: "Yeah, it's like Pinky and the Brain, it's great.""
[lounge]|11:55 Iain says, "Speaking of dangerous, it's inky"
[tangent]|11:55 vimes says (to hjalfi), "not true, that just creates a different commit"
[lounge]|11:55 inky says, "I am the most dangerous game"
[lounge]|11:55 inky says, "besides strip deep-sea diving"
[lounge]|11:55 Iain says, "Hee hee"
[tangent]|11:55 vimes says, "you can still get back to the previous commit as long as it's either still reachable from somewhere or you haven't done a gc"
[lounge]|11:55 Iain says, "Minefield hopscotch"
[lounge]|11:55 vimes says, "optimistic politics"
[lounge]|11:56 Iain says, "Lunar mooning"
[zarfplan]|11:56 two-star says, "I overheard Ed Pegg (mathpuzzle.com guy) mentioning one "Andrew Plotkin" at G4G. Turns out he liked Spider and Web, but did not know about the Meanwhile app, so I told him about it."
[lounge]|11:56 inky says, "hee hee"
[zarfplan]|11:56 zarf says, "woo thanks"
[headlines]|11:56 Roger | Rectangular house plan has a spacious layout, efficient design
[zarfplan]|11:57 zarf says, "also apparently the comic Skin Horse has been tossing in S&W in-jokes for a week now"
[headlines]|11:57 Roger says, "Of course!  *Rectangular* houses!  We've been so foolish."
[headlines]|11:57 Roger says, "Time to move out of our hexagons and trapezoids."
[lounge]|11:58 skyfaller says, "Hi folks! I was wondering if anyone could give me some pointers on how to write interactive fiction. Not like picking and using a programming language, but more planning out the game, the plot etc."
[kitties]|11:58 Roger says, "There's one thing about working with unsocialized cats"
[kitties]|11:59 Roger says, "Wow does it ever work your fast-twitch reflexes"
[zarfplan]|11:59 Iain asks (of zarf), "How is Meanwhile selling, if you don't mind me asking?"
[lounge]|11:59 two-star says, "No mazes."
[headlines]|11:59 Nitku says, "I live in a spherical house. No dust collecting in the corners."
[kitties]|11:59 Roger says, "And you need to be calm so it's all zen twitchyness"
[zarfplan]|11:59 zarf says, "not super"
[zarfplan]|12:00 Iain says, "Aw, well."
[lounge]|12:00 skyfaller smiles.
[zarfplan]|12:00 Iain says, "I guess it's a niche thing."
[lounge]|12:00 maga says, "well, it's a good idea to start small, is the conventional wisdom"
[lounge]|12:00 vimes says, "There are a bunch of very good articles that some very clever people have written on the craft of writing IF.  Many of them are linked at http://www.ifwiki.org/index.php/Craft "
[lounge]|12:00 Guenni sails into the lounge on a giant bean bag, circles once overhead and plops down.
[lounge]|12:00 Guenni says, "hi"
[zarfplan]|12:00 zarf says, "the $1 sale sold a lot of copies, but it dropped immediately back down to the 1-5 copies per day rate"
[zarfplan]|12:01 zarf says, "which I'm happy to have, of course, but I'll need several more of those to be self-sustaining"
[zarfplan]|12:02 Iain asks, "Right, 10 or 20 of those would do you nicely. Or 50?"
[zarfplan]|12:02 zarf says, "I am currently frustrated because my old friend's Fourth Dimension app hit a nerve and got mentioned in a lot of news sites outside the app-review circuit"
[zarfplan]|12:02 zarf says, "the bastard"
[zarfplan]|12:03 Iain says, "I remember nothings having a similar reaction when an acquaintance of his finally released that game 'Braid' they'd discussed years before."
[zarfplan]|12:03 zarf says, "also, this is directly caused because Josh "De.lic.ious" Schacter posted its link on memepool.com, as a joke"
[lounge]|12:03 skyfaller says, "I mean, if I were writing a book, there seems to be either the snowflake method, where you start with an outline and gradually expand it and fill it in until it is complete..."
[zarfplan]|12:03 zarf says, "if I had thought to do that... grr"
[lounge]|12:03 skyfaller says, "Or you just start writing and let the story go where it will... or some combination of the two methods"
[zarfplan]|12:04 Iain says, "It seems like massive success in these things is largely luck, which is fine, but also totally unfair."
[lounge]|12:04 vimes says, "if that's specifically the part of the craft you're interested in, then this article may be of particular interest: http://emshort.wordpress.com/2009/08/23/idea-to-implementation/ "
[zarfplan]|12:04 zarf says, "I plan to get over it this week sometime"
[zarfplan]|12:04 Iain says, "Like obviously skill and effort too, but at least as much luck as those."
[lounge]|12:04 skyfaller says, "But I don't know how to plan / write something that doesn't necessarily have a linear narrative"
[zarfplan]|12:04 Iain says, "Just like the music industry or what have you."
[lounge]|12:04 Roger says, "There are three keys to writing good IF easily.  Unfortunately no one knows what they are."
[lounge]|12:05 skyfaller laughs.
[lounge]|12:05 skyfaller says (to vimes), "that does look particularly relevant, thank you"
[movie]|12:06 Matthew says, "Wow."
[lounge]|12:06 Hjalfi says, "If you're interested in theory, Emily Short's blog is a must read. Also check out the references section."
[movie]|12:06 Matthew says, "Jack & Jill won in every single Razzies category this year."
[lounge]|12:06 zarf says, "One key is in the brass-bound trunk, one is behind the mirror in the Stone Hallway, but we're still looking for the third"
[zarfplan]|12:07 Iain says, "Er, anyway, good luck!"
[zarfplan]|12:07 Iain says, "I feel like you've got the skill and effort covered."
[zarfplan]|12:07 zarf says, "and now, back to this Dreamhold map extension"
[lounge]|12:07 skyfaller says (to zarf), "Hi! I really enjoyed playing Spider and Web, it expanded my mind."
[lounge]|12:08 zarf says, "Thanks"
[lounge]|12:08 Johnny asks, "In the sense that a taffy puller expands taffy?"
[lounge]|12:08 Johnny asks, "Or like an enlarging ray?"
[lounge]|12:09 skyfaller says (to Johnny), "Yes, I left my brain in little strands sticking to every corner of the map in that game."
[kickstarter]|12:10 Matthew says, " http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/230165553/game-history-book-high-score-3rd-edition "
[kickstarter]|12:10 Matthew says, "Dinner with Steve Meretzky is a premium.  SO TEMPTING."
[kickstarter]|12:11 Iain asks, "How much, and how many are on sale?"
[kickstarter]|12:11 zarf says, "I've had dinner with Steve Meretzky. I wound up feeling dumber than him."
[lounge]|12:11 skyfaller says (to Hjalfi), "Yeah, I just started following Emily's blog but the knowledge has yet to sink in."
[kickstarter]|12:12 Iain says, "I've had beer with Steve Meretzky."
[lounge]|12:12 Nitku says, "For some people, it exploded their mind. It wasn't pretty."
[lounge]|12:12 baf guarantees FREE REPLACEMENT of any crumpled cats.
[lounge]|12:12 Johnny says (to Nitku), "That just means you have to recalibrate the machine."
[lounge]|12:12 Johnny says, "Hi baf"
[kickstarter]|12:12 Iain says, "Or 'Steve-o' as I proudly called him for months afterwards."
[lounge]|12:12 Johnny says, "Also, you want the head to expand as well."
[lounge]|12:13 skyfaller says, "Stretchy brains are easy, stretchy skulls are harder."
[lounge]|12:13 baf says, "hi"
[lounge]|12:14 Nitku says (to skyfaller), "Also, this might be for a later phase in game design, but David Fisher's IF Gems is really useful"
[lounge]|12:14 Nitku | http://mirror.ifarchive.org/if-archive/programming/general-discussion/IFGems.zip
[lounge]|12:15 Johnny says, "IF Gems could stand to be a gummi snack."
[lounge]|12:15 Nitku says, "It's what reviewers have said about design decisions organized by category"
[lounge]|12:16 Johnny says, "And if you run out of lantern gummis, the bag is unwinnable."
[religion]|12:16 baf asks, "Today's SMBC inspires in me a little reflection on St Peter as Heaven's gatekeeper: What if it's all his own idea? What if Jesus doesn't know that Peter is turning people away?"
[religion]|12:21 two-star asks, "Also, if Peter has a crappy service industry job that he can never leave for a second, is he functionally in hell?"
[religion]|12:21 Gunther says, "hmm? admissions are Wednesdays at 9:00 to 9:03 CET (CElestial Time)"
[religion]|12:22 Roger says, "Hmmm where does the idea of him as celestial gatekeeper come from, anyway."
[jobs]|12:23 Roger says, "Whoops; undocumented mission-critical functionality I wrote years ago just failed."
[jobs]|12:23 Roger says, "Fortunately I think I managed to figure it out."
[lounge]|12:25 DavidW materializes out from a silver haze in the light.
[lounge]|12:25 DavidW says, "hello."
[lounge]|12:25 DavidW says, "And happy birthday, Alazoral, whoever and wherever you are."
[ads]|12:26 Bishop asks, "Yow. Not only is that Belvedere Vodka ad tasteless, they apparently stole a video still for it. What, they couldn't actually _hire_ actors?"
[lounge]|12:27 skyfaller exclaims (at Nitku), "Thank you, that seems very inspirational!"
[videogames]|12:29 Gunther says, "oh my god I have just found the worst bundle in existence"
[videogames]|12:29 Gunther says, " http://www.indievania.com/bundles/bundle4dead "
[lounge]|12:30 Rob comes right on in.
[lounge]|12:30 Johnny says, "Robocalypse"
[lounge]|12:31 Iain says (to Rob), "Hi"
[lounge]|12:31 skyfaller says (to Johnny), "Robocalypse to you, too."
[videogames]|12:31 Hjalfi asks, "Daikatana, Duke Nukem Forever, and A Boy and his Blob?"
[videogames]|12:31 Hjalfi says, "Meh, close enough."
[videogames]|12:32 Gunther says, "yeah, worse"
[kickstarter]|12:33 Gunther | Up to five people will share a meal with legendary game designer Peter Molyneux.
[kickstarter]|12:33 Gunther |  The location (likely in England), time and date will be determined after the Kickstarter project is completed.
[kickstarter]|12:33 Gunther | But it will be the most amazing restaurant you've ever eaten in at the best time ever.
[lounge]|12:33 Rob moseys right on out.
[lounge]|12:33 Rob comes right on in.
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There is one new message on #if/games/Monkey-Island.
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Rob says, "gflrugh"
<jmac> jmac has connected to ifMUD.
skyfaller asks (of Rob), "Is it Groundhog Day?"
[robmumble] Rob says, "Muggle Studies transcript (superbrief): http://raddial.com/stuff/muggle_script01.t "
Rob says (to skyfaller), "well that would explain a lot if so"
[kitties] GDorn |  http://forgifs.com/gallery/d/194771-2/Kitten-based-tracking-system.gif
[kickstarter] Johnny asks, "So, is it Moly-nay-ucks?"
[kickstarter] Rob asks, "is who wha what?"
#78 [soc/religion/religion]        From: inky          Date: 02-Apr-12 01:35
Subject: story of passover, shadow play version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZKJcHVWI_4&feature=youtu.be
#8 [ifmud/bots/Floyd]              From: vimes         Date: 01-Apr-12 20:40
Subject: Floyd now supports status bars
Well, in some systems. Thanks to zarf's work on remglk, I was able to put together a wrapper called sleepmask that allows Floyd to play games with status bars, fancy menus, boxed quotations, and so forth.  There are a few bugs yet, so watch your step, but in the meantime: 
 - Game types supported
Right now, sleepmask supports z-code, glulx, and hugo games.  The z-code and hugo terps are a little flaky about it, but the glulx terp seems pretty solid.
 - How to use
Tell Floyd: %load sleepmask <game>
To press a single key, tell floyd: /key <key> - you can use the special key names 'return', 'space', 'up', 'down', 'left', and 'right' (and some other less common ones) for various things.
Saving or restoring with 'SAVE' or 'RESTORE' will prompt you for a file.  If you need to save or restore through some other means (such as a "Press R to restore" game), tell Floyd: /savename <savename> - before you trigger the save/restore.
Let me know about any problems you encounter, and I'll pass them on to zarf as appropriate.  Enjoy!
#17 [if/games/Monkey-Island]       From: Gunther       Date: 02-Apr-12 10:04
Subject: MI The Board Game
http://www.figure.fm/post/en/38196/Monkey+Island+Board+Game+O.html
#46 [misc/places/PAX-Boston]       From: Miseri        Date: 01-Apr-12 23:03
Subject: extra pass
David Monath has extra passes.  Either a single 3-day pass, or three 1-day passes, but not both.  Available at list price.  Any takers?
  # From         Date            Subject
  1 Rob          30-Jan-12 20:58 Plans
  2 Rob          30-Jan-12 21:03 IF Writing retreat
  3 zarf         14-Mar-12 00:51 Prospective IF gathering event
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#2 [if/Gathering]                  From: zarf          Date: 14-Mar-12 00:51
Subject: Prospective IF gathering event
http://noshowconf.com/ , July 14-15. This would not be an IF-only event, but we can be a large fraction of it I bet.
[kickstarter] GDorn asks, "seems french, so Moly-noo?"
[kickstarter] Gunther says, "it's not pronounced "molydeux", which in turn is not pronounced "moly do""
[videogames] Gunther | The Rich, Textured Fiction of Angry Birds Will Be Explored Via a Cartoon Series
[kickstarter] Rob says, "Molly Dieux"
[videogames] Rob says, "hee hee"
[videogames] Gunther | Angry Birds developer Rovio revealed the new series to European press over the weekend, citing an in-house animation studio (that the developer purchased last year) as the division dedicated to making Angry Birds a cartoon reality.
[google] Hjalfi asks, "Is it just me, or is Google having a really bad day?"
[videogames] Gunther says, "I WEEP FOR HUMANITY"
[google] Gunther says, "it's just you"
[movie] Rob says, "that reminds me that I watched Guardians: Owls of Ga'Hoole"
[videogames] Nitku asks, "The Angry Birds plot isn't exactly Shakespeare, is it?"
[smoochies] Bishop says, "So, coming up on 1-year anniversary (based on a fairly arbitrary definition of when we became a couple). I was thinking of flowers and a nice dinner out (nice and unthreatening, which I think I can manage to pull off even with Shannon's culinary unambitiousness). She's asked a few questions ('do you ever wear cufflinks?', 'do wou prefer gold-tone or silver-tone things?') which make me think she's planning some sort of personal-adornment gift. I' figure I'd best reciprocate but have no idea what to reciprocate _with_."
<borowski> In another time and place, this could be funny.
borowski is the hard to find stations on the AM band.
[videogames] Gunther says, "it's not exactly Uwe Boll either"
[movie] Rob says, "which I watched only because the 10-year-old daughter of my qman co-conspirator Aaron Schnore said that this was her favorite movie and it was awesome"
[videogames] Hjalfi says (to Gunther), "I take it you haven't seen this: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/space-invaders-video-game-headed-208968 "
[videogames] Gunther says (to Hjalfi), "of course I have"
[smoochies] two-star says, "Tattoos are forever."
[movie] Rob says, "it seems to have been directed by Zack Snyder in between making Watchmen and Sucker Punch"
[videogames] Gunther says, "I also know about the Monopoly, Battleship, etc. movies"
[smoochies] Roger says, "Dinner out sounds like a good plan."
[movie] Rob says, "but it also seems to have been sub-directed by a lot of other people who were trying to do something worthwhile"
skyfaller asks, "Are these automated greetings you say whenever you join the channel?"
Gunther says, "well, whenever you join the MUD"
[smoochies] Iain says, "Oh, man, picking out jewellery or something is very tough."
[videogames] Johnny | http://www.geek.com/articles/games/prince-of-persia-creator-finds-lost-source-code-23-years-later-20120329/
[movie] Rob says, "it's a CGI animated feature where all the characters are owls, and one porcuipine"
[smoochies] Bishop says (to two-star), "I imagine she'd wake up while I'm putting it on."
[smoochies] Iain says, "Flowers and dinner sounds nice to me too."
[movie] Roger says, "Oh yeah that rings a bell"
[videogames] Johnny | (comments) CALL JASON SCOTT NOW GODDAMMIT
[movie] Rob says, "then it basically retells star wars"
[jobs] Dave says, "well that was painful"
[smoochies] Bishop says, "(joking. I'm not _that_ dumb)"
[pain] Allen says, "I better get some killer painmedicine tomorrow"
skyfaller says, "Ah, yes, still getting used to the terminology."
[jobs] Dave says, "2 hours of updating a codegen process"
[videogames] Gunther says, "jscott's already more or less on the way"
[movie] Rob says, "I never saw it when it was released because I thought 'Legend of the Guardians: The Owls of Ga'Hoole' was a ridiculous title (implying a laughable movie)"
[movie] Rob says, "but it was actually pretty good"
[smoochies] two-star says, "There's nothing more romantic than surprise general anaesthesia."
[movie] Iain says, "Ga'Hoole"
[movie] zarf says, "and it is a ridiculous title"
[movie] Rob says, "Sam Neill (sounding like Bryan Brown)"
[movie] Iain says, "Hmm, I saw terrible reviews of that, too."
[movie] Rob says, "Hugo Weaving as Bad Guy Owl"
[tangent] Iain says, "This reminds me, I caught Avatar on TV the other day and watched it out of vague interest."
[robmumble] inky says, "hee hee hee"
[movie] Rob says, "Geoffrey Rush (3 aussies and counting) as Wizened Old Crotchety War Veteran Owl"
[tangent] Iain says, "This is kind of contradictory, but I think it looks better in 2D"
[movie] Gunther says, "How will you have a hoot, Mr. Ga'Hoole"
[movie] Rob says, "it did have, what I would say"
[tangent] Iain says, "And at the same time, you can see how naff a lot of the CGI is."
[movie] Gunther says, "if you have no beak"
[tangent] Iain says, "I mean it just looks really CGI-y."
[tangent] Roger says, "Mmmhmmm"
[movie] Rob says, "is the best Learning-How-to-Fly story I've come across"
[tangent] Roger says, "I"
[movie] Rob says, "reminded me that every bird I've ever seen in the air had to learn how to fly"
[tangent] Iain says, "All these massive helicopter gunship battles, and nothing looks as real as the dropship in Aliens, say, or the helicopters in Apocalypse Now."
[tangent] Roger says, "'ve heard there's going to be a sequel, but I'm not sure if it's a joke"
[tangent] Gunther says, "well, anything that's not actually a real thing will look CGIy no matter what you do"
[smoochies] inky asks, "does she wear jewellery?"
[movie] Rob says, "which is all metaphorical and stuff already"
[tangent] Gunther says (to Roger), "sadly no"
[tangent] Gunther says, "(t a joke)"
[tangent] Iain says, "I don't see why a helicopter can't look convincingly like a helicopter."
[tangent] Iain says, "Even if it does happen to be banking around a floating mountain."
[smoochies] Bishop says, "Rings and earrings. I've given her a ring made from vintage silverware on a previous occasion."
[movie] Rob says, "then it turns into a combination of star wars and lord of the rings, where the young jedi owl is bade 'trust your gizzard, boy!' instead of 'use the Force, Luke!'"
[tangent] Roger says, "I'm cautiously optimistic the sequel will be two hours of orbital bombardment and complete genocide of the smurfs."
[tangent] Iain says, "I can't figure out what the missing element is, either."
[smoochies] inky says, "get her a fork"
skyfaller asks, "So do you folks hang out in other MUDs, or mostly this one?"
[tangent] Iain says, "I guess if it was that easy, they'd just add in whatever the magic missing thing is."
[movie] inky says, "I am reading this book about screenwriting"
[movie] inky says, "oops, sorry, interrupting"
[tangent] Roger says, "Some element of rotor blur would be my first guess"
[tangent] Roger says, "The landscapes generally looked okay, I seem to recall"
[movie] Rob asks, "which book?"
[tangent] Iain says, "It's something about all the surfaces. Texture isn't quite there somehow."
[tangent] Iain says (to Roger), "Not quite detailed enough, I'd say."
[movie] Rob asks, "also, are you planning on writing a screenplay?"
[tangent] Hjalfi says, "Originality."
[tangent] baf says, "I'm looking forward to Avatar 4: The Quest of the Ultima"
[tangent] Hjalfi says, "Acting."
[movie] inky | http://www.amazon.com/Writing-Movies-Fun-Profit-Billion/dp/1439186758
[tangent] Hjalfi says, "Scriptwriting."
[tangent] Johnny says, "It is script frenzy."
[movie] Rob says, "(I'm done, the end)"
[tangent] Iain says (to Hjalfi), "In the CGI specifically."
[movie] inky says, "I am just interested in the creative process"
[movie] Rob says, "yeah as usual"
[movie] inky says, "also in making a million dollars"
[tangent] Hjalfi says (to Iain), "Oh, right."
[movie] Roger says, "Also in making Hugo cry"
[tangent] Johnny asks, "That's the Garrant-Lennon book?"
[names] Gunther says, "Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi"
[tangent] Johnny says, "ilac"
[tangent] Johnny says, "double-ilac"
[movie] Rob says, "the only way to make a million dollars is to sign away your rights in some shitty deal"
[tangent] Iain says, "I actually think the story is fine! It's like dozens of okayish SF novels I've read."
[movie] Rob says, "but hey, a million dollars"
[movie] inky says, "anyway, in chapter one alone they described a suggested google search as "HELEN MIRREN > NAKED > IMAGES""
[tangent] Hjalfi says, "The aliens were *deeply* unconvincing at first. I suspect that they were deliberately made strangely inhuman to try and mask the Uncanny Valley effect."
[names] Roger says, "That's a whole lotta name"
[tangent] Gunther says, "I had no problem with the CGI"
[tangent] Iain says, "Not really Epic enough to warrant a three-hour movie of gargantuan budget, sure."
[tangent] Hjalfi says, "The initial scene in the med bay felt just... wrong."
[movie] Rob says, "Helen Mirren is quote unquote famous for 'dropping her kit'"
[movie] inky says, "which makes me think 1) are they still using yahoo in like 1995? and 2) hey, they're the ones responsible for all the incorrect internet use in scripts"
[movie] Rob says, "in the pantheon of really good british actresses"
[movie] Iain says (to inky), "Zow"
[movie] Rob says, "this reminds me of a half-story"
[movie] Iain asks (of Rob), "Isn't that basically all British actresses?"
[movie] Roger asks, "Are you sure this isn't T-Rex's guide to screenwriting?"
[movie] Rob says, "I was thinking about Helen Mirren dropping her kit"
[movie] Iain says, "Don't worry, everybody does that sometimes"
[movie] inky says, "but the main thing that caught my eye is they said "don't do a crazy original indie idea, do something like other movies that are selling, nobody wants you to reinvent the wheel""
[movie] Rob says, "which made me think, hey, I once saw that back in my undergrad film school days, in that Peter Greenaway movie, 'The Thief, The Cook, His Wife, and Her Lover'"
[movie] inky asks, "but isn't this exactly the opposite meaning of reinventing the wheel?"
[movie] Gunther says, "it is"
[movie] Johnny asks (of Iain), "Drop their kit or think about Helen Mirren?"
[movie] Rob says, "which was a movie of sufficient auteurness and production design orgasmism that it was a big deal at that time"
[movie] Rob says, "and I thought, 'I'd like to see that again now, maybe I'll have to rent it'"
[movie] Iain says (to Johnny), "All sections of the Venn diagram I'd say"
[movie] Gunther says, ""reinvent the wheel" is "come up with your own process to do the same thing that already exists except probably worse""
[movie] Rob says, "then within a week of thinking this, I discovered it in HD on cable television"
[movie] Iain says (to Rob), "Oh, yeah, that's a spectacular movie."
[movie] Iain says, "I'd love to see it in a cinema."
[movie] Rob says, "and so I got to watch it and think 'hmm wow' a lot at it"
[movie] Johnny says (to inky), "That book is about making it as a Hollywood screenwriter."
[movie] Rob says, "Dumbledore #2 is the roguish Thief!"
[movie] Allen says, "of The Cook, etc, I just remember the big color transitions as they went from room to room"
[movie] Rob says, "there's other side actors who seem more familiar now than then"
[movie] Iain says (to Rob), "Hey, have you seen Orlando? Somehow I feel like you'd like it a lot."
[movie] inky says, "also, I think of 'kti' as a d&d word"
[movie] inky says, "er, kit"
[movie] Rob says, "completely Disturbing movie to watch to the end"
[movie] Rob says, "what does kit mean in d&d"
[movie] inky says, "so I am imagining Helen Mirren dropping a set of lockpicks etc"
[movie] Johnny says, "Like, they say multiple times you absolutely must live in L.A."
[smoochies] Bishop frets. "Mmm, silver earrings at Shapeways are pricey. So wanted to get her something mathematical but beautiful."
[movie] Allen says, "and the 'Here, try the cock'"
[robmumble] Rob says, "redundant reminder that I posted something earlier"
[movie] Johnny says, "The book is pretty upfront about that."
[movie] Rob says, "nah, Orlando's actually a boring kind of thing for me"
[movie] Iain says, "Whuh, that's interestingly surprising."
[movie] inky says (to Johnny), "oh I'm not complaining"
[movie] Rob says, "I guess I kind of respect it but it's better at helping me take a nap"
[movie] Rob says, "so in that sense I like it"
[smoochies] inky asks, "how pricey is pricey?"
[movie] Rob says, "tilda swinton weirds me out"
[D&D] Roger says (to Rob), "A 'kit' was the AD&D 2e version of 'prestige classes' sort of"
[movie] Iain says, "Somehow it hits similar buttons to The Cook Etc and also Topsy Turvy, which as I recall you like."
[movie] Iain says, "for me"
[movie] Roger says (to Rob), "I'd watch her reading a phone book."
[movie] Rob says, "she did this crazy movie about female perversion that was the first thing I saw her in"
[D&D] Jearl says, "Mirren always rolls paladin and then wants to be neutral instead"
[movie] Roger says, "But yeah she is sort of pod-persony"
[movie] Rob says, "so you get skeezed out by her like you do with james spader"
[movie] Rob says (to Roger), "yeah kind of"
[smoochies] Bishop says, "Usually in the $60-$70 range."
[D&D] inky says, "hee hee"
[D&D] Jearl says, "pulls out the Dragon articles, turns it into a whole big thing, eats the session"
[D&D] GDorn says, "well, except that you started with kits at first level, but PrCs are higher levels"
[D&D] Rob asks, "how is kit prestige?"
[smoochies] Bishop says, "Which isn't absurd, no, but for what these things are isn't that great."
[movie] Iain says, "It's always a little surprising when you see her out of character and she seems relatively normal"
[smoochies] Roger says, "Dinner laser in the 60-70 megawatt range"
[D&D] Rob says (to Jearl), "excellent"
[movie] Iain says, "Not crazy-actress-like at all."
[D&D] inky says, "prestige classes and kits are both just specializations of your existing class"
[movie] Rob asks, "are we still talking about helen mirren?"
[D&D] GDorn says, "kits are more like minor customizations or mix-ins."
[movie] Iain says, "In that case I meant Tilda Swinton"
[movie] Rob says, "oh yeah her again"
[movie] Rob says, "maybe she'd be an interesting Doctor"
[movie] Iain says, "Since I assumed that's who you meant was freaky and a pod person."
[movie] Rob says, "she'd be all over the alien-ness thing"
[movie] Roger says, "*I* said she was a pod-person"
[movie] Iain says, "youse plural"
[movie] Johnny says, "THere was a novel about screenwriting I saw recommended to wannabe screenwriters."
[movie] Roger says, "Rob and I might have to roshambo for upper-casedness"
[movie] Johnny says, "I've forgotten the title of it."
[movie] Rob says, "I just said I wasn't down with the whole Tilda shwang, yknowwattmean dogg"
[movie] inky says, "it's ok because your names are different lengths"
[smoochies] Bishop is now looking at < http://www.etsy.com/shop/DragonNerd >.
[movie] Iain says, "I actually did mean both of you with 'you'!"
[movie] Rob says, "I just learned that there is right now a sitcom called 'Rob' starring Rob Schneider"
[movie] Roger says, "If there was a movie with Bill Nighy and Tilda Swinton in it, I'd never stop watching it."
[movie] Iain says, "There is no disambiguation problem here. Of course it might be different if you started wearing hats."
[movie] Rob says (to Roger), "ha ha"
[movie] Rob says, "you may get your wish"
Recapping 3 of 3 lines from misc/personal/robmumble:
[robmumble]/001 Rob says, "Muggle Studies transcript (superbrief): http://raddial.com/stuff/muggle_script01.t "
[robmumble]/002 inky says, "hee hee hee"
[robmumble]/003 Rob says, "redundant reminder that I posted something earlier"
Recapped 3 of 3 lines from misc/personal/robmumble.
[jobs] GDorn says, "gah.  stupid open floor plan.  somebody farted."
[weather] Rob says, "how is the weather there"
[jobs] Roger says, "Open floor plans, closed windows."
[weather] Rob says, "it's like 82F and sunny spring here"
<Yuri> Yuri has connected to ifMUD.
Yuri arrives from the east.
[pain] Allen asks, "friend offered saturday to bring me some of his "20 times stronger than morphine" happy pills. Why did I refuse?"
[comics] Roger says, "It seems like flat comic art is everywhere suddenly"
[jobs] GDorn says, "sadly, too cold to open a window here"
</Fang> Conclusion: My conclusion is large apples.
<Fang> The chief argument it employs is "O NO YOU ARE BEING ATTACKED BY MONSTER PEOPLE", which is kind of dismissive.
[pain] Roger says, "You're already addicted to kitties"
[robmumble] * NewsBoy hollers, "Extra! Extra! Rob has posted message 7, about 'Book review', to the bulletin board! And now to make PollBoy an offer he can't refuse."
[robmumble] Johnny asks, "Is it about Tokyo street racing?"
[robmumble] inky | Can't use READ ALL. Screw it.
[movie] Hugo says, "Talking about screenwriting."
[movie] Hugo says, "I thought you people were better than this."
[smoochies] Bishop asks, "I could get her a matching earring-and-necklace set with Sierpinskis or soemthing. Too self-aggrandizing?"
[movie] Iain says, "Is like dancing around a ballroom, on the outside"
[smoochies] inky asks, "well, uh, are you getting something that she'll like, or are you getting something that you like?"
[movie] Roger says, "Technically we're just talking about talking about screenwriting"
[robmumble] Rob says, "yep"
[smoochies] Bishop says, "Oh, I'm so fuzzy on what she likes. She likes semi-dangly wire things"
[smoochies] Bishop says, "And antique silverware, and simple rings, but I've already gonet there."
Recapping 21 of 21 lines from alt/relationships/smoochies:
[smoochies]/001 Bishop says, "So, coming up on 1-year anniversary (based on a fairly arbitrary definition of when we became a couple). I was thinking of flowers and a nice dinner out (nice and unthreatening, which I think I can manage to pull off even with Shannon's culinary unambitiousness). She's asked a few questions ('do you ever wear cufflinks?', 'do wou prefer gold-tone or silver-tone things?') which make me think she's planning some sort of personal-adornment gift. I' figure I'd best reciprocate but have no idea what to reciprocate _with_."
[smoochies]/002 two-star says, "Tattoos are forever."
[smoochies]/003 Roger says, "Dinner out sounds like a good plan."
[smoochies]/004 Iain says, "Oh, man, picking out jewellery or something is very tough."
[smoochies]/005 Bishop says (to two-star), "I imagine she'd wake up while I'm putting it on."
[smoochies]/006 Iain says, "Flowers and dinner sounds nice to me too."
[smoochies]/007 Bishop says, "(joking. I'm not _that_ dumb)"
[smoochies]/008 two-star says, "There's nothing more romantic than surprise general anaesthesia."
[smoochies]/009 inky asks, "does she wear jewellery?"
[smoochies]/010 Bishop says, "Rings and earrings. I've given her a ring made from vintage silverware on a previous occasion."
[smoochies]/011 inky says, "get her a fork"
[smoochies]/012 Bishop frets. "Mmm, silver earrings at Shapeways are pricey. So wanted to get her something mathematical but beautiful."
[smoochies]/013 inky asks, "how pricey is pricey?"
[smoochies]/014 Bishop says, "Usually in the $60-$70 range."
[smoochies]/015 Bishop says, "Which isn't absurd, no, but for what these things are isn't that great."
[smoochies]/016 Roger says, "Dinner laser in the 60-70 megawatt range"
[smoochies]/017 Bishop is now looking at < http://www.etsy.com/shop/DragonNerd >.
[smoochies]/018 Bishop asks, "I could get her a matching earring-and-necklace set with Sierpinskis or soemthing. Too self-aggrandizing?"
[smoochies]/019 inky asks, "well, uh, are you getting something that she'll like, or are you getting something that you like?"
[smoochies]/020 Bishop says, "Oh, I'm so fuzzy on what she likes. She likes semi-dangly wire things"
[smoochies]/021 Bishop says, "And antique silverware, and simple rings, but I've already gonet there."
Recapped 21 of 21 lines from alt/relationships/smoochies.
[smoochies] inky says, "if she likes mathy jewellery then there's nothing wrong with getting her something that will remind her in particular of you"
Yuri exclaims, "Hello all!"
[smoochies] Rob asks, "'do you ever wear cufflinks?' is better than 'do you ever wear shoes'?"
[smoochies] Iain says, "Ha ha ha"
[smoochies] Iain says, "It totally is"
[robmumble] Johnny says, "I didn't realize you'd blogulated the website."
[smoochies] Iain says, "Although, new shoes are also nice"
[smoochies] Bishop says, "Hmm. She likes cats. I wonder if there's anything awesomely cattish out there."
[robmumble] Roger says, "Seems like a solid review."
[personals] Dave says, "so after some thought and a few messages back and forth, I'm inclined not to follow up on my lunch date from last Frida"
[robmumble] Rob says, "yeah I tried to do it a year or two ago, because I wanted to move my old-blogs from livejournal to something I owned"
[personals] Dave says, "in the middle of our conversation she brought up the fact that she rides a motorcycle"
[gameofthrones] Roger says, "I may be way too late to the party here, but: I'm liking the new season so far."
[gameofthrones] Roger says, "Introduced the major new characters competently."
[gameofthrones] Gunther says, "you, unlike me, know there's a new season!!"
[personals] Dave says, "and just from the whole sidebar, it was clear she thought any man disinterested in them was a bit of a sissy"
Richie says, "Hello Yuri!"
[smoochies] Rob says, "hey so, if she asked you whether you liked gold-or-silver better, the answer is, you've given her one or more silver gifts, so you like silver better"
[personals] Dave says, "so that's me, sissyman"
[gameofthrones] Roger exclaims, "There is!"
[personals] Iain says, "It's good to know yourself"
[gameofthrones] Rob says, "I just saw a huge ad for the new season in the newspaper I read at breakfast this morning"
[gameofthrones] Roger says, "CGI was used to good effect"
skyfaller says, "Yes, this is all."
[personals] Dave says, "if she had the motorcycle thing in her profile, I would not have responded"
[gameofthrones] Rob says, "supplemented by an article that nonetheless was pure advertising"
[smoochies] Rob says, "although it's possible you should upgrade to gold"
[smoochies] Rob says, "or possibly electrum or latinum"
[gameofthrones] Roger says, "I still can't get over how much Ser Jorah Mormont reminds me of Charlton Heston circa Planet of the Apes."
[gameofthrones] Rob asks, "who plays that character?"
[craft] GDorn asks, "how well do screenreaders handle various IF formats?"
[craft] inky says, "uh, it depends"
[craft] zarf says, "I do not know of a good summary of the situation"
[craft] inky asks, "also, do you mean format or interpreter?"
[craft] Dave asks, "where is jaybord, anyway?"
[craft] Dave says, "s/o/i"
[craft] GDorn says (to inky), "not a clue"
[craft] Gunther says, "he was around all day yesterday"
[craft] inky says, "because like I think dos frotz works pretty well but winfrotz works less well"
[OPPRESSION] Gunther | The Supreme Court on Monday ruled by a 5-to-4 vote that officials may strip-search people arrested for any offense, however minor, before admitting them to jails even if the officials have no reason to suspect the presence of contraband
[OPPRESSION] inky says, "christ"
[craft] GDorn says, "I mean, I barely understand how screenreaders work and sorta assumed that terps would need plugins or interfaces with system-level screenreading"
[craft] Johnny says, "There's that WinfrotzTTS thing."
[craft] Dave says, "huh, I missed him...I was going to talk to him about this because I recently sold games to a blind customer"
Iain says, "Home time."
Iain leaps astride a mountain pony and gallops off bareback for reinforcements.
[craft] Rob says, "I'm still trying to think of an IF command UI that works really cleanly on iphones and smart tablets and such"
[craft] Johnny says, "text-to-speech"
[craft] Dave says, "and there were questions"
[craft] Nitku says, "I assume it depends entirely on the interpreter"
[craft] Rob says, "I'm closing in on it"
[craft] Rob says, "maybe if there's a #gathering this summer I'll have something to demo"
[craft] Dave says (to rob), "I think phones are significantly different than tablets"
[craft] zarf says, "I just got iOS-Glk working with the iOS voice interface"
[craft] zarf says, "but I haven't released a 1.0 yet"
[gameofthrones] Roger says, "Uhmmm"
[craft] Nitku says, "If you have a DOS or console interpreter the screen reader would read the text just as if it were any other console output"
[craft] Rob says, "this'll be sort of a six-fingered (2 thumbs) version of something"
[craft] GDorn asks (of Nitku), "do those typically have the ability to rewind so that you don't need to >look to repeat room info?"
[gameofthrones] Roger says, "Iain Glen"
[craft] Rob asks (of Nitku), "who has a DOS or console interpreter these days?"
[craft] GDorn says, "because some cruel games punish you for taking too many turns looking around"
[craft] zarf asks, "blind people?"
[craft] Nitku says (to GDorn), "Not that I know of"
[craft] Rob says, "oo, good answer"
[craft] zarf says, "we really do need someone to write up a good answer, because I've *never* known"
[craft] Gunther asks, "hmm, should "look (at)" be a meta verb?"
[smoochies] Bishop says, "I figure flowers and dinner probably put me in good standing, but some modest gift would be nice. I'm (perhaps unreasonably) worried she'll go over the top in getting me something."
[craft] Rob says, "the best thing jscott did for the community was remind us about its blind fandom"
[craft] Rob asks (of zarf), "a good answer, to reiterate, which question?"
[craft] GDorn says, "also, I wonder how screen readers cope with things like Cryptozookeeper"
[smoochies] Bishop says, "These might do the trick: < http://www.etsy.com/listing/92109665/sleeping-cat-earrings-antiqued-pewter >."
[smoochies] inky asks, "am I remembering right that she has a lower income than you do?"
[smoochies] Bishop says (to inky), "Yes."
[craft] Dave says, "I tried to partner with a blind software distributor...but they wanted 50%"
[craft] Dave says, "phhft"
[eww] Roger asks, "Who wants to see a horrible injury?"
[smoochies] Bishop says, "Which is why I worry she might do too much."
[craft] zarf says, "what are the screen readers that IF fans use. What interpreters do they work with."
[eww] Roger | http://chzgifs.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/funny-gifs-uhhhhhh.gif
[smoochies] inky says, "it seems like you should certainly get her something nice then"
[smoochies] Rob says, "I think a cute pair of earrings is a lovely anniversary gift"
Matthew goes home.
</Matthew> Caught in a grab and a gabble of fabulous feet... Paul!
[craft] zarf says, "from that, we could start upgrading the interpreters"
[craft] Rob says, "<saving a buffer for later reference>"
[smoochies] Roger says, "Sell your tuxedo shirt to pay for a lovely comb"
[eww] Nitku says, "ow ow ow ow"
[smoochies] inky says, "hee hee"
[eww] inky asks, "isn't this what all wrestling is like?"
[craft] GDorn says, "this comes from a conversation I was having with Jearl about my zombie vaporware project, wherein I had an idea of using a graphics extension to help illustrate the limited sensory input"
[eww] Roger says, "I hope not"
[craft] GDorn says, "and then she reminded me about blind fans taking issue with that"
[smoochies] Bishop says, "Since an elegant meal and flowers and suchlike isn't a terrific privation for me, but an equal expense on her part might well come out of, say, what she's saving for a new car."
No such channel: 'tng'.
Not a valid command. Try typing 'help'.
No such channel: 'tng'.
[exercise] Roger says, "So good news: gave the 'bumper plates' a try and they work just fine."
[apropos-of-nothing] mamster says, "I'm sure this was discussed ages ago, but"
[tangent] Rob asks, "is there any star trek: the next generation channel??"
[tangent] Rob asks, "-?"
[exercise] Roger says, "Also they weigh an identical amount which is a bit lucky but I'll take it."
[tangent] Rob asks, "oh ok double ??"
[apropos-of-nothing] mamster says, "Did you know the American Heart Association has a site where you can practice CPR on a hot guy/girl? http://handsonlycpr.org/handson/index.html "
[tangent] inky asks, "#startrek is probably fine, isn't it?"
[tangent] GDorn says, "no!! but there's #startrek"
[tangent] Roger says, "I don't think you'll get kicked off of #startrek"
[tangent] Rob says, "ok"
[startrek] Rob says, "Roger just reminded me"
[tangent] Nitku says, "We should have a channel for each series and each movie"
[tangent] Hjalfi says, "...plus -sux versions of each one."
[apropos-of-nothing] Gunther says, "naturally I misread that completely"
[startrek] Rob says, "the TNG episode where Data gets a cute girlfriend, then she breaks up with him"
[startrek] (from Roger) Rob says, "of #startrek.  Whew."
[startrek] Rob says, "I had no idea this episode was directed by Patrick Stewart, but it was"
[startrek] Rob says (to Roger), "hee hee"
[Sierra] Gunther says, "holy shit Leisure Suit Larry Kickstarter"
[startrek] Rob says, "I uncomfortably relate to this episode"
[startrek] Roger says, "Well yes my inability to form human relationships often prompts such comparions"
[startrek] Rob says, "though I like it because I think it was written by a woman, which makes total sense"
[startrek] Roger says, "I don't think I saw this one."
[Sierra] * NewsBoy hollers, "Extra! Extra! Gunther has posted message 61, about 'LSL Kickstarter', to the bulletin board! Read it quickly, before I decide it's not worthy of this bb!"
[startrek] Roger says, "It must have fallen between his pleasuring of Yar and him getting a cat."
[apropos-of-nothing] maga says, "hey, buddy, my heart's over *there*"
[startrek] Rob says, "any woman who would write a startrek episode about trying to hook up with lt. cmdr data is a girl who has tried to fall in love with a total geek"
[startrek] Roger says, "And also maybe he had a kid along the way?  I dunno."
[startrek] Gunther says, "I only know the one where Geordi holodeckstalks an engineer, then she comes on board and discovers that"
[startrek] Rob says, "hey if you guys haven't seen this one you should see this one"
[startrek] Roger asks, "What's it actually called?"
[startrek] Rob says, "In Theory"
[smoochies] Bishop says, "Eh. I'll get the little cat earrings. They're nice, but not so very nice that she'll feel bad about receiving them, and I've gotten her enough gifts that I suppose if she's really going all out I'm maybe on the long-scale not coming out as meager."
[startrek] Rob says, "it's fun"
[startrek] Roger says, "I'm sold"
[startrek] Rob says, "I assume there are many ways to see a random TNG episode that can be figured out by people"
[startrek] Hjalfi says, "Data annoys me. Here he is, one of the most advanced AIs in the Federation, and all he obsesses about is becoming more like a meatsack human."
[apropos-of-nothing] Nitku says, "hmm"
[startrek] Rob says, "don't tell me how you go about it la la la la la"
[apropos-of-nothing] Nitku asks, "why only pushing?"
[startrek] Roger says, "I'll just head down to the local Blockbusters"
[startrek] Rob says (to Hjalfi), "spoken like a true android"
[apropos-of-nothing] mamster says, "Because it's as effective as mouth-to-mouth plus compressions for adult victims."
[startrek] Rob says (to Roger), "well if you see me again after watching it gimme your impressions"
[apropos-of-nothing] mamster says, "Yeah, also, be sure to throw in a happy ending."
[apropos-of-nothing] Roger says, "Every time their recertification classes get light, they change the protocol"
[apropos-of-nothing] mamster says, "Oh man, I wonder how many google hits there are for 'happy ending cpr'"
[startrek] Rob says, "I bought this star trek dvd set called 'Captain's Log'"
[apropos-of-nothing] Roger says, "Instead I think I'll just play that bloodpumping IF again."
[startrek] Hjalfi says, "The Federation is tragically carbon chauvanist, anyway. Any measly holodeck computer is capable of emulating a dozen or so Chinese Room human-equivalent AIs, and indeed does on a regular basis --- and the humans just wipe them when they get in the way."
[apropos-of-nothing] mamster says, "It looks like none!"
[apropos-of-nothing] mamster says (to Roger), "ha ha"
[startrek] Rob says, "where the episodes were a combination of all 4 Star Trek Captains (Kirk, Picard, Janeway, Sisko)'s personal episode picks + Fan Picks x 2"
[startrek] Roger says, "I think they got freaked out by Khan and so decided to veer decidedly anti-transhumanist."
[startrek] Rob says, "this has turned out to be a pretty great dvd set in the long run"
[startrek] Roger says, "Hunh"
[apropos-of-nothing] mamster asks, "What was that game called?"
[apropos-of-nothing] Roger says, "Sadly its name escapes me, but I'm sure someone will fill us in."
[apropos-of-nothing] inky says, "Pumping!, I believe"
skyfaller says, "Any redditors here? I just joined http://www.reddit.com/r/interactivefiction/ but there doesn't seem to be much activity, unfortunately."
[apropos-of-nothing] DavidW says, "yeah, Pumping!"
[startrek] Rob says, "I also have an original-series DVD double-episode of: the one where two planets are at war, but the war is entirely run by computer algorithm, with actual-people deathbooth-ed-ness; and the original Khan episode with Ricardo Montalban"
[apropos-of-nothing] Roger says, "14 years ago?!?  Dang."
[apropos-of-nothing] DavidW says, "And I think it got its idea from one of Rybread's games? But I don't remember which."
[apropos-of-nothing] inky says, "oh, hmm"
[apropos-of-nothing] Gunther says, "Symetry"
[apropos-of-nothing] Gunther says, ""You wronged my blood-pumper!""
[apropos-of-nothing] DavidW says, "yes, that line."
[startrek] Hjalfi says (to Rob), "I just saw those. The original Khan episode is fairly unmemorable. The deathbooth episode is good."
[apropos-of-nothing] mamster says, "hee hee"
[apropos-of-nothing] mamster says, "That was so great"
[startrek] Roger says, "I am sad to report that In Theory was written by Joe Menosky and Ronald D. Moore."
<Jota> Black lightning pierces your mind for an instant.
Jota arrives from the east.
Jota greets.
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Rob greets Jota.
[startrek] Rob says, "RDM eh"
[story] inky | One night I awoke to find my bedroom bathed in moonlight. I almost went back to sleep, but was startled awake when I remembered that the moon wasn't up. I'm an astronomer, and I think I was teaching a lab that semester, so I was keeping track of moon phases... it was a waning crescent that night.
[story] inky |
[story] inky | I looked out the window and saw something very similar to what you saw, a bright light, getting brighter and brighter and brighter. I was thinking, man, if this turns out to be aliens it's going to be very embarrassing for me, professionally...
[story] inky says, "(it turned out to be a plane with its landing lights on)"
[story] Rob says, "yay"
[story] Rob asks, "what's that from?"
[story] inky says, "random person on metafilter"
[ryan] Ryan says, "Aw, I wish I had thought of the phrase "HTML5 echolocation API" yesterday."
[story] Roger says, "Then I sued my real estate agent."
[exercise] maga says, "okay, bouldering this afternoon"
[ryan] Ryan says, "That would have made an amusing AFD thing."
[ryan] Rob says, "whut"
[exercise] Roger says, "Time to get chalky"
[exercise] vimes says (to mamster), "ow fuck why did i agree to this"
[ryan] Ryan says, "The HTML5 geolocation API lets websites ask for your location."
[startrek] borowski says, "Data seems like he's a good listener.  Maybe that's why the chicks dig him."
[ryan] Ryan says, "The HTML5 echolocation API would send tiny high-frequency clicks through your speakers and listen for their echoes as a way to map the objects surrounding you."
[startrek] Roger says, "That chick should apply for a transfer to a Vulcan ship."
[ryan] Ryan says, "(and, y'know, make that map available to web apps for whatever nefarious purpose)"
[startrek] Roger says, "Or get a cat."
[startrek] Hjalfi says, "I keep wanting to take Data aside, hand him a copy of the collected _Culture_ novels by Iain Banks, and say, 'read and learn.'"
[ryan] two-star says, "And then you get served ads for nutritious insects if there don't appear to be enough of them around you."
[ryan] Roger says, "You could call it Ping"
[startrek] maga says (to borowski), "also he can bench press a small car"
[startrek] Johnny asks (of maga), "What if the car is full of chyx?"
[startrek] Hjalfi says, "He can probably bench press them, too..."
Hjalfi says, "Offtime."
Hjalfi enthusiastically mundanifies between spasms of personality-occultism and off-topic casual/social-leveraging.
</Hjalfi> Become immortal or die!
[startrek] maga says, "then he will be adorably confused by their innuendoes"
[startrek] borowski says, "He also plays hard to get.  That drives women crazy."
[exercise] mamster asks, "How's it going?"
[startrek] Roger says, "He can dance The Robot so crazy well"
[exercise] Roger asks, "Oh yeah pushups.  So?"
[exercise] mamster says, "I'm slated to do 4,5,4,4,5+ today"
[exercise] mamster says, "I think it'll be okay."
[exercise] Roger asks, "Did you try grabbing the floor?"
[exercise] maga asks, "hundredpushups?"
[exercise] mamster says (to Roger), "No, I forgot. Will do today."
[exercise] mamster says (to maga), "Yep."
[exercise] maga says, "nice"
[exercise] mamster says, "I'm most worried about later this week when I get to set of 7"
[exercise] maga says, "I should get back to that; I've been stalled for a while"
[exercise] mamster says, "I don't remember the last time I was able to do 7 pushups"
[exercise] Johnny says, "I'm going to cheat by losing wait before starting."
[exercise] mamster asks (of maga), "Did you get stuck at some point or just take a break?"
[exercise] Roger says, "Everyone loses wait before starting"
[ryan] Ryan says, "I should do this for next AFD."
[exercise] vimes says (to mamster), "it's going good, just really ow.  I did 6,8,6,6,7+ today"
[exercise] mamster says (to vimes), "Wow, nice."
Rob says, "iuygt7f6ty[\]"
[exercise] Roger asks, "How much rest between sets?"
[ryan] Ryan says, "Actually make a Firefox extension that pops up a permission dialog like the geolocation on."
[exercise] maga says, "it's more that I reached about 50 or 55, hit an endurance wall and lost interest"
[ryan] Ryan says, "one"
[exercise] vimes says, "(and by 7+ I mean 7)"
[exercise] Rob says, "mmm, losing wait"
[exercise] mamster says, "hee hee"
[exercise] mamster says (to maga), "That's a lot of pushups"
[exercise] Johnny says, "Whoops"
[ryan] Ryan says, "And a fake web app that "detects" your mom walking into the room and hides your porn."
[exercise] mamster says (to Roger), "1 to 2 minutes"
[exercise] vimes says, "i started with 90 seconds, but i had to take almost three minutes before i could manage the last couple sets"
[exercise] Roger says, "Just wondering"
[exercise] maga says, "also I switched to decline pushups, because they do good things for shoulders and prevent tennis injuries and stuff"
[exercise] mamster says, "Yeah, you can rest as long as you need to."
[exercise] vimes says, "i'm also not sure if i'm going to be able to keep up with the level 2 program"
[ryan] inky asks, "is there a way to make the web browser beep?"
[exercise] Rob says, "I got this 'seen-on-tv!' door-jamb-bendy-bar-chinup-exerciser-pushup-situp-thing for christmas"
[exercise] Roger says, "I also decline pushups"
[exercise] maga says, "but that changed things around a bit"
[exercise] Roger says (to Rob), "Oh yeah, the trim-ripper-offer"
[exercise] mamster says (to vimes), "Yeah, I feel like I'm cheating so far by starting with level 1"
[exercise] vimes says, "but i'll just repeat a week if i have problems"
[exercise] mamster says, "Like, so far I haven't had to do anything I couldn't have done anyway."
skyfaller says, "Come on, fhqwhgads."
[startrek] borowski says (to Rob), "I got something like that too.  I've finally been able to do more than 1 pullup recently."
[exercise] mamster says, "But that should change by Friday."
[exercise] Roger says, "Sadly I cannot do even one real chinup"
[exercise] Rob says, "I have it onthe doorway between my bedroom and bathroom, so I seldom have an excuse not to at least do some kind of pullup or flip a few times every day"
[exercise] Rob says (to borowski), "good work"
[exercise] Rob says, "I came down with the SXSW lurgie"
[exercise] mamster says (to Roger), "I think I can do exactly one."
[exercise] Rob says, "laid me up for 2 weeks, all these foreign germs in my ecosystem"
[exercise] Rob says, "I'm just now starting to feel semi normal again"
[exercise] vimes says, "i can wall-run and put my elbows on a ledge a foot above my head"
[exercise] vimes says, "but i can't do a pullup"
[exercise] Rob says (to vimes), "I can't picture what that means without it being hilarious slapstick"
[exercise] vimes says, "it was, the first time i tried it"
[exercise] maga says, "I keep feeling that I should work on pullups to improve my climbing, but honestly I can do enough that really technique is more important"
[exercise] Rob says, "well that's what I'm picturin'"
[exercise] borowski says, "I think pullups require muscles only used to pullups."
[exercise] maga says, "there are plenty of good climbers who can do 0-1 pullups"
[exercise] Rob says, "when I was 5 or 6, which was the peak of my athletic prowess, I just loved clambering on jungle gyms"
[exercise] maga says (to borowski), "and climbing, and rows, and posture, and preventing your pecs from pulling your shoulders forwards into a bodybuilder hunch"
[exercise] Rob says, "I've often thought I'd like an adult-sized set of weird bars to climb around on every day for exercise"
[exercise] mamster says, "That would be awesome"
[exercise] Rob says, "stronger is the image of a rusted set of adult-sized jungle-gym-bars, going for years unused"
[exercise] vimes says, "run straight at a wall, take a few steps up the wall ninja-style, sprawl arms over ledge, clamber the rest of the way up fat kid style"
[exercise] Roger says, "Some sort of course, filled with obstacles."
[exercise] Rob says, "I'm with you up until the step where I think 'what the hell ledge is he talking about'"
[exercise] vimes says, "it doesn't work so well if you're running at a wall that just goes up 30 stories, no"
[exercise] borowski says (to maga), "Huh.  I didn't know that helped with posture."
[exercise] Rob says, "'fat kid style' is classic though"
[exercise] vimes says, "but i can scale an 8-foot brick wall with a flat top like that"
[exercise] Rob says, "I think my favorite exercise is clambering and climbing"
Jota greets Robelatedly.
[exercise] mamster says, "OK, I think I'm going to run a couple errands and then go home and do pushups"
[exercise] mamster says, "Wave"
[exercise] Rob says, "and jumping up and down just for fun"
[exercise] Roger says, "You're going to be so ready for the zombie apocalypse"
[exercise] maga says, "I am very fond of rock-scrambles, yeah, and I very much miss living in a place with lots of climbable trees"
[exercise] Rob says, "I want a high indoor ceiling, a mini-trampoline, and a big video screen showing episodes of The Six Million Dollar Man, and I'll get plenty of daily exercise"
[exercise] inky says, "ha ha"
[exercise] Rob says, "when I was a kid, my parents got rid of this old box springs and mattress they used to have, and let me jump up and down on it while watching tv"
[exercise] vimes says, "ha ha, awesome"
[exercise] Rob says, "and I could go raarrrr and throw mattresses while watching those tv shows"
[exercise] vimes says, "that's a great trick"
[exercise] Rob says, "I really did have a good time as a kid"
[exercise] borowski says, "I want someone to film a montage of me exercising that I can watch while I exercise."
Grocible says, "hey all"
[exercise] Rob says, "huzzah"
borowski says, "Hi Grocible"
Rob says, "hallo grocible"
[exercise] Roger says, "I usually video-record all my exercising"
Rob says, "I was just reading a nytimes op-ed on the decline of Burning Man"
Rob says, "which of course made me wonder how Grocible is faring these days"
Grocible says, "ahoy matey"
Grocible says, "oh wait. Not seafaring"
[exercise] Rob says, "@sp"
Grocible says, "I am very fine, thank you. And how are you Rob."
[exercise] Rob says, "er duh"
[exercise] Rob says (to Roger), "what do you do with these self exercise tapes"
Rob says (to Grocible), "I am feeling like Doctor Who, a very old man in a young lanky body"
[exercise] Roger says, "I usually watch them during my inter-set rests.  Theoretically I might watch them some other time but I haven't decided to."
Yuri goes home.
</Yuri> Yuri has disconnected from ifMUD.
Grocible asks, "Why?"
Rob says, "well, I got sick for a long spell, which made me feel old"
Grocible says, "Ah"
Grocible asks, "Is that why you were off?"
Rob says, "yeah a bunch of why"
Grocible says, "Verily, that doth suck."
tale attributes it to the "finesse" Archer exhibited outside the Hall of Diplomacy. Finesse? I'll take "Things that do not describe Captain Archer" for $1000.
Rob says, "one gets philosophical when one can't do anything but lie in bed and watch terrible television"
Rob says, "and the occasional fun dvd"
Grocible asks, "Were you around when I visited Jan Harlan?"
Rob says, "nope, tell me about it"
Guenni goes home.
</Guenni> goes elsewhere
inky says, "you got philosophical and lanky"
Rob says, "I shore did"
Grocible says, "You know who he is, right? Stanley Kubrick's producer"
[exercise] borowski asks (of maga), "Do you know of any other exercises that help with posture?"
inky says, "they're cops who play by their own rules"
Rob says, "suregoon"
[exercise] Rob says, "balance books on your head"
[exercise] Roger says, "The best cue I know for good posture is to think Superman"
[exercise] Rob says, "it's a classic tried-n-true"
[exercise] borowski asks, "While I curtsie?"
[exercise] Rob says, "while thinking superman, sure"
inky says, ""dammit, lanky, I'll have your badge for this" "sure, chief, if you could reach it, but unfortunately my freakishly tall form makes it too high for you""
[exercise] Roger says, "Stand up straight, chest out, shoulders back, cape billowing"
Rob says, "that's sure, go on, not, sure, goon"
inky says, "or 'surgeon'"
[penny-arcade] inky says, "aaah"
Grocible says, "so for the new book I wanted to get a photo of one of the famous Zeiss lenses that Kubrick used in Barry Lyndon"
(From vimes) Grocible says, "But the box just contained a dragonfly"
Grocible says, "Yeah. Man"
[penny-arcade] Johnny says, "ha ha"
[way-secret] Rob says, "real dumb to mention, but I have a friend making a private eye parody (web-video series) called The Pantless Detective, a film noir private eye spoof, and that 'dammit, lanky' thing sounded just like it, maybe you could write an episode, blah blah blah, I'm talking smack, etc.,"
Grocible says, "Anyway. So I tracked down two of them to an art storage warehouse in Frankfurt, but I wasn't able to get to them, because of timing when I was in Germany"
[way-secret] inky says, "ha ha"
[way-secret] inky says, "that is a fine name for a noir parody"
Grocible says, "They're currently part of the Stanley Kubrick exhibition, which is in storage pending its next showing in Amsterdam in June"
[exercise] Roger says, "Good mornings would probably help too."
Grocible says, "then I found out through the curator of the Stanley Kubrick Archives in London that the third lens is still in the possession of Jan Harlan"
Grocible says, "so I emailed him"
[way-secret] inky says, "I hope there is a scene where he opens the bottom drawer of his desk where you'd normally get the whiskey bottle and instead there is a neatly-folded pair of khakis"
[way-secret] Rob says, "they have actually finished a whole premiere set of episodes and are planning on doing more"
Grocible says, "and he said, "why yes, I have this lens. Come on over!""
Grocible says, "so I did"
tale says, "awesome"
[way-secret] Rob says, "but the weakness I most spot is that the scripts could be better"
Grocible says, "and he's a super friendly and generous guy"
[way-secret] Rob says, "ha ha khakis"
[way-secret] Rob says, "no, they haven't thought of anything as funny as that yet"
[way-secret] Rob says, "one of the guys was in the original Krone and is helping me do the sequel"
[way-secret] inky asks, "are these up anywhere yet?"
Grocible says, "and I photographed said lens, and he regaled me with tales of Stanley Kubrick"
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[way-secret] Rob says, "I told him I needed to make them the private-eye-door with the frosted glass and the detective's name on it, because it would make it look 1000% better"
[gender] inky says, "(gender comes off your facebook page, to answer your first question)"
[way-secret] inky says, "yeah totally"
Johnny says, "Oh wait, hi Tale and Grocible"
[way-secret] Rob says, "they're up in a secret place, but I can dig up the links he sent me and figure stuff out"
[way-secret] Rob says, "and let you watch em"
[way-secret] inky says, "excellent"
Grocible says, " http://nkguy.com/temp/planar3.jpg "
[way-secret] Rob says, "I want to play a Fu Manchu villain henchman"
[way-secret] Rob says, "I will just mention in passing"
Grocible says, "so that's the lens. a Zeiss Planar 0,7/50"
[way-secret] inky says, "ha ha"
[jobs] Ryan says, "Awesome. I think my coworker, while trying to reset the firmware on our non-responsve backup NAS, might have done the magic disk-wipe button combo."
[way-secret] inky says, "I guess I am thinking of nothing but pants jokes for this"
borowski says, "That sounds cooler than the exploding Ferrari."
[way-secret] Rob says, "ok can I get a favor from you and ask you to text-message me a reminder to email you links to these pantsless detective videos"
[way-secret] inky says, "but the guy could be loaded into one of those conveyor belt deathtrap things where he drawn helplessly down to the end where his legs will be shoved into a pair of pants"
[jobs] vimes says, "i think The Emperor's New Groove has the perfect quote for this:"
[jobs] Ryan says, "No way to tell until the thing finishes whatever it's doing and tells us what state it's in."
[jobs] vimes | Why do we even *have* that lever?
[exercise] K-Y says, "belately, I think I've finally recovered from doing 14-18-14- etc last week"
Grocible says, "to the right are three of the special double-wick candles that Kubrick had made for the film"
Grocible says, "that were left over from the production"
[way-secret] Rob says, "remember the budget is very small ! scale everything down to cable access level"
[jobs] Ryan says, "Indeed."
[gender] Johnny asks, "#tangent but can we start saying core instead of hardcore?"
Rob says, "mm barry lyndon"
Grocible says, "and I said hey cool. you still have those candles"
Grocible says, "and he said, yes, and you can have them!"
[jobs] Ryan says, "In the meantime, I think I will back up as much server data as I can to my workstation RIGHT NOW."
Grocible says, "and I said !!!!"
borowski asks, "Are all of Kubrick's things in England?"
Rob asks, "also, was it at least a cool dragonfly?"
Grocible says, "Well, Kubrick's things are in various locations now"
[way-secret] inky says, "ok it'll be like that but we'll put a scantily clad lady in the foreground"
[housing] katre says, "fuck fuck fuck"
Rob asks, "do you have those candles now?"
[housing] katre says, "silly me, thinking shit was over just because the fuckhead tenant moved out"
Grocible says, "I do"
[way-secret] Rob says, "yallo"
[gender] Johnny | ``When boys gather around to play games just with each other, it’s not really social. When girls gather around just to chat, it’s not very social. The social starts when they hang out together and play games together,'' Nuretdinova explained.
tale says, "Holy Moses"
Grocible says, "I think my jaw literally dropped when he offered them to me"
[gender] Johnny says, "What"
[housing] katre says, "I've been getting letters from coned about unpaid bills, today I called them to say "hey, guy moved out, go after him""
Rob says, "hooray"
Rob says, "thank you for the happy ending story grocible"
[housing] katre says, "they said "The account was up-to-date when it was closed july 31. But there's been a lot of usage since then""
Roger says, "Also I've got this 55-gallon drum of napalm in the backyard."
Rob says, "I love to sniff it in the morning"
[housing] Roger says, "Whaaa"
[housing] katre says, "so during the four months he was there he never bothered opening a con ed account, and I'm on the hook"
[housing] katre says, "things I never even thought to check"
[housing] Roger says, "Dand"
[housing] Roger says, "Dang, I mean."
Grocible says, "He also gave me a signed copy of the Taschen book that he helped work on"
[housing] katre says, "there's a pile of time warner cable bills, too. I hope that's not my problem too"
[housing] inky says, "grah"
[movie] Nitku says, "Hmm, Liam Neeson is in Battleship"
[housing] Rob asks, "what guy-tenant was this?"
(From tale) Grocible says, "He also explained what 2001 was all about"
Grocible says, "so between photographing Kubrick's lens and Newton's telescope, this has been a great project"
[housing] Rob says, "Liam Neeson, I should have suspected"
borowski asks, "What was it about?"
[housing] katre says (to rob), "the one who moved in, lost his job, and stopped paying rent"
[housing] katre says, "he only actually managed to pay one months rent in full"
Grocible says, "Interestingly my cousin's husband wrote a big documentary book about 2001"
[housing] Rob asks, "how long was he a tenant?"
Grocible says, "and he's revising it"
[housing] katre says, "then he left, and I discovered a huge host of lies and unauthorized work on the apartment, so I spent another $5k fixing the place back up"
Rob asks, "wife's cousin or your cousin?"
Grocible says, "so he's been in touch with Harlan too, though Harlan didn't start working with Kubrick until Clockwork Orange"
[housing] katre says, "four months"
Grocible says, "my cousin in law"
Rob asks, "what did ellison do on Clockwork?"
[housing] Rob says, "sux"
Grocible says, "Jan Harlan is Kubrick's brother in law as well"
Grocible says, "Christiane Kubrick played the German girl who sings a song at the end of his film Paths of Glory"
[I7] skyfaller asks, "Hi folks! So, I am using the Rideable Vehicles extension to make a rideable bicycle, but the bike starts off inside an apartment. Is there a good way I can *walk* the bike along with me until I get out of the apartment complex?"
[I7] Roger asks, "Are you asking about code or syntax or what do you need?"
[I7] DavidW says, "I think it'd be simpler to just 'take bike'. Treat it like the skateboard in Mrs Pepper's Nasty Secret."
[I7] Nitku says, "Right, and when the player takes inventory print the bike's name as "You are walking the bike""
[I7] Roger says, "Yeah I'd make that synonymous with 'PUSH BIKE OUTSIDE' or whatnot"
[I7] borowski says, "Yeah, if the fact that your walking the bike doesn't impact gameplay, it might was well be in your inv."
[I7] Nitku says (to Roger), "that would be annoying"
[I7] Roger says, "And/or update the status line, "Kitchen (pushing your bike)""
[I7] Roger says (to Nitku), "Well sure but I'd still want to support it."
[I7] skyfaller asks, "OK, that makes sense. How do I make the object takeable?"
[I7] skyfaller says, "right now it says the bike is fixed in place"
[I7] Nitku says, ""The bike is not fixed in place""
[startrek] borowski says, "I started 'Up the Long Ladder' last night and I couldn't get through it, but I think I'll finish just for completeness."
[I7] skyfaller asks, "Nitku that didn't work. Maybe because I made it a rideable vehicle?"
[I7] Roger says, "Bike is portable."
[I7] DavidW asks, "Are vehicles always or usually fixed in place?"
[I7] Nitku says, "It works for me"
[I7] skyfaller says (to Roger), "Sweet! Thank you."
[I7] Roger says, "(If you read Rideable Vehicles, it says "A rideable vehicle is usually not portable.""
[I7] DavidW says (to Roger), "ah, good"
[I7] Roger says, "So that's how to solve this sort of problem."
[videogames] Jearl says, "RPS wrote up Apollo 18"
[I7] skyfaller says, "OK, and now I guess I use Basic Screen Effects to update the status line."
[videogames] Jearl says, "very briefly"
[videogames] inky says, "woo"
[housing] katre says, "(lies: he told me he'd replaced the moldy bathroom vanity. nope, it was still there molding away. unauthorized work: he's installed wooden flooring on top of the new carpet I'd put down in august. also, he repainted the entire place, and dripped paint onto that same new carpet)"
[housing] Jon says, "on TOP of the carpet? wtf"
[housing] katre says, "yes"
[housing] Jearl says, "jeez"
[housing] katre says, "mostly just sitting there but in a few places he screwed it down"
[I7] skyfaller asks, "How do I change its description in my inventory? Just "change the printed name"? Or is there some better way to do it?"
<Firefairy> Firefairy has connected to ifMUD.
Grocible says, "and here's ap hoto I took today http://nkguy.com/temp/LensComponents "
[housing] borowski asks, "Wow.  He put down new flooring instead of paying rent?"
[housing] katre says (to borowski), "I am also confused"
[I7] (from Johnny) Johnny says, "Create a separate object called 'You are walking the bike.' then swap it out for the real bike as needed.
[I7] (from Johnny) "
Iain hasn't been here since April, I'm starting to get worried.
[I7] DavidW says (to Johnny), "boo hiss"
Iain says, "Evening all"
[I7] skyfaller asks, "Wait, changing the printed name alone won't do it, because it says 'you are carrying: a bicycle'. Isn't it a bit jarring to say "You are carrying: You are walking the bike."?"
[I7] Johnny says (to skyfaller), "Generally when you see (from Somebody) somone is joking."
[I7] Johnny says, "Er, someone."
[housing] K-Y says, "presumablt it was some kind of contraband smuggling"
[housing] borowski says, "Maybe he was a few slices of cheese short of a club sandwhich."
[housing] K-Y says, "flooring"
[pain] Allen says, "found a very uncomfortable pain-free position:"
[tired] Jon says, "inexplicably tired"
[housing] katre says, "my favorite part was when he was telling me he was moving out"
[pain] Allen says, "left leg extended, left heel of foot hanging off bed, foot extended"
[pain] Allen says, "right leg bent, resting on bed rail"
skyfaller asks (of Johnny), "Ah, thanks for explaining, but I'm not sure I understand this MUD convention. Why does that indicate a joke?"
[housing] katre says, ""I lost my job, my wife left me... ever since I moved into your apartment I've had bad luck. that place is a junx!""
zarf says, "It's hard to explain."
[pain] Allen says, "computer on right leg"
[pain] Allen says, "ha ha this sucks"
<olethros> Tetris may hold the key to stopping cannibalism.
[housing] borowski says, "Oh of course.  He's the victim."
[I7] Nitku says, "Rule for printing the name of the bike while taking inventory: say "whatever"."
[tired] Jon asks, "I got eight hours of sleep, so why am I tired?"
olethros was so annoyed he sat down and angrily wobbled his jowls for a full 45 minutes.
[tired] inky says, "it's a lot of work getting that much sleep"
[I7] DavidW says, "After printing the name of the bike while taking inventory: say " (pushing)"."
[tired] olethros says, "ha!"
[housing] baf says, "He didn't lose his job and his wife because he's the sort of person who would install wood flooring on top of a carpet."
Johnny says (to skyfaller), "Well, more broadly it's usually something that the person wouldn't say."
[housing] borowski says, "No, he's just making the world a better place one home improvement project at a time."
Nitku says, "It's because you can use the same technique to make it look like other people would say what you want to say, and usually when you do it it's because you're making a joke. So by extension if you use it to make yourself say something it means you're joking."
Johnny says, "Or something narratey like"
(From Johnny) The ground rumbles.
Nitku says, "It's like the MUD version of smileys"
skyfaller asks (of Johnny), "I sort of see. How do you make the (From Johnny)?"
Johnny says, "@emit or @e. help @emit has more."
Firefairy was a shrewd businesswoman and a fearsome adversary who was never loath to take credit for any invention, whether she was responsible or not.
Johnny says, "Use wisely (unlike me)."
borowski says, "Johnny also has special powers, though."
Johnny says, "Hi Firefairy."
Firefairy smiles. "Hi, Johnny."
[housing] Iain says, "Recapping -- zowie."
[I7] skyfaller says, "Yeah, I think DavidW's solution might be the best, Nitku's solution results in: 'You are carrying:"
Firefairy asks (of Johnny), "What are you saying to use wisely?"
Johnny says (to Firefairy), "@emit"
[I7] skyfaller says, "erm, "you are carrying: a You are walking the bicycle.""
Nitku says (to Firefairy), "You can @recap #lounge to see previous discussion"
Not a valid command. Try typing 'help'.
Firefairy says (to Nitku), "Thanks- had seen references to that, but hadn't used it yet."
skyfaller says, "Some of the discussion happened in #i7 but I took it out of the channel because it wasn't quite about Inform 7"
[way-secret] Rob says, "ok I just asked the pantesless detective guy if it was ok if my hilarious writer friend dan could watch his episodes and if he were still interested throw in some script ideas and he said ok so I said ok"
[way-secret] Rob says, "and I'm waiting for an email which if I get one I will probably text msg back to you for bookending symmetry"
Fang is told of the death of Christ, and becomes so angry that the brain bursts from his head, and he dies. The blood from the wound baptises him as a Christian, and his soul goes to heaven.
</Fang> Conclusion: My conclusion is large apples.
[way-secret] Rob says, "naturally if you think the show stinks and you don't wanna do it then opt out"
[I7] DavidW says, "There's probably even a way to scoop out items from the general inventory recital so they can be listed together, so you can preface with "You are wearing:" or "You are pushing:",  etc."
[housing] katre says, "duchess and I agree we are not keen on having tenants again soon"
skyfaller asks, "If you say something in #i7, do people in the same room as you hear what you are saying, even if they are not subscribed to #i7?"
[housing] katre says, "although I am iffy at her idea of renting it out weekly via airbnb"
Rob says, "no"
[housing] Iain says, "I'd be interested to hear how that goes."
Rob says, "that is what being subscribed to #i7 means"
Nitku says, "Rooms and channels are not connected in any way"
[housing] Iain asks (of katre), "What are your other options? Sell up?"
DavidW says (to Nitku), "Except for specialty channels like #lounge."
Nitku says, "well, sure"
[I7] Johnny says, "Oh yeah, you can also write rules to print it as "a bicycle (being worn)" or "a bicycle (being pushed)" or whatever."
[housing] Iain asks, "Or could you pay more for some kind of rental agency that will handle almost all the flak?"
[housing] katre says, "we can afford to leave it empty"
[housing] katre says, "or just take over and have more living area"
[housing] katre says, "or sell the house and buy a one-unit"
[housing] Jota says, "You just can't afford to have a tenant."
[housing] katre says, "I guess looking into an agency isn't a bad idea"
[way-secret] Rob says, "but honestly I think it is a good opportunity to do something fun for the whoop de doo of doing something fun"
[housing] Jon says, "airbnb seems like it might be a better option because there's less time for someone to wreck the place"
[I7] skyfaller says, "Ah, I see that http://inform7.com/learn/man/Rex126.html has a relevant example for e.g. saying 'You are wearing:'"
[housing] Iain says, "I've heard that they rarely actually protect you from the flak, but I have no experience in the matter."
[housing] katre says (to jota), "having just finished my taxes, I can prove that a) I lost a lot of money last year on this, and b) that loss is not deductible due to passive activity limitations and the AMT"
[way-secret] Rob says, "I am completely crestfallen and pessimistic about doing anything for the sake of any other career ambition, alas and alack"
[way-secret] Rob says, "ok, gotta go, txt/email/chat soon"
Rob says, "blurbkh"
Rob heads right on out.
</Rob> Find release from your cares. have a good time.
Seeya later.